/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Whatchu talking about? I only see an improvement.

>>3604022
i'm guessing she approved it so it's not like this is against her will.
having said that, yeah the old model is by far superior.

>>3604022
She changed AGAIN? lol

>>3604022
damn, this shit wack, bring back the simple design

>>3604022
Yeah, same feeling the old one is much better, and now she looks just like one of those thots that got banned.

>>3604022
>Design goes through variants done by different artists with wildly varying styles
Don’t watch her streams but I can easily assume this is intention, maybe even character lore related

>>3604022
Many such cases!

>>3604022
This is actually depressing...

What are you on about?
Previous one was kinda dull, but this one is amazing

>>3604172
it's because she joined vshojo and every model there is sexualized.
so she went from cute mouse girl in sweater to semen demon #6349

>watches whore-shoujo
>why are they like this

What's with the people in this site and being a nostalgiafag? Just because it's older doesn't mean that it's better.

>>3604202
Unnecessarily oversexualized and boring. Lol tits bro!

>>3604227
The reverse is also true, trendchaser

>>3604227
just because its new doesn't mean that it's better

>>3604022
New one looks great. Bunch of slack jawed faggots around here.

The savior of Hololive ID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwR2YUlxIXU

>>3604022
That model was cooking for maybe longer than VShojo anon. Also your taste is shit.
>>3604172
It is, also it's been long established that her bells inhibit her demonic power. This is her without the bells.

>>3604227
I don't even watch IronMouse and to me the one on the left looks cute and lovable, and the one on the right looks like a generic third rate vtuber design like from 774 or something

>>3604257
Let me guess, you ride a horse carriage everywhere and still use telegram?

>>3604022
Veibae and Nyanners swore to mousey it looked great, and she bought it. She needs better friends.

>>3604022
The ruination happened before Vshojo

>>3604241
>Unnecessarily oversexualized
She isn't a news anchor, you fucking puritan

>>3604022
You must have a trashy slut model to be in vwhores, look at how many are defending this pbvious soulless downgrade because it has sex appeal. Vwhores audience is retarded.

>>3604297
let me guess, you live in a pod and have a microchip under your skin

>>3604227
They don't actually think the old one is better, this board just shits on anything western vtubers do. According to vt Snuffy is literally the only western vtuber to ever have a model improvement, except they're too retarded to spam anything but "SOULLESS" as criticism

>soulless
they're advertising mascots anon

>>3604081
She changes every season, this is her summer model expect another one for the fall.

>>3604359
God I wish

If it wasn't for the colors, I would've assumed it was another Veibae alt outfit. Don't mind the sexuality but we better not being going into same design territory for the others.

>>3604227
I like the old avatar because its cute and matched her vouce, not because its old. Sexy is good, but cute and funny is better

>>3604321
Connor will save her by telling her the truth.

>They expect a full-fledged demon queen not to dress sexy
I feel like you guys are missing the point. And Rosuuri's art is nice.

>>3604359
You got the first one right. The second one might already be true (without my consent though).

>>3604022
Holy shit that's awful. They just made another Veibae.

Now THIS is a semen demon.

>>3604531
>without my consent though
thats rape, get metoo on the case to cancel the goverment

>>3604022
I feel sorry for her. It's going to be difficult for her to transition to bilibili at this rate.

>>3604387
Found the faggot.

>>3604022
Tf is this shit,I prefer 2nd model,tsundere mousey

Eh, looking like something out of a nukige is marginally better than looking like something out of a western drawn porn game.

>>3604022
It actually looks good now. Fixed the shoulder issue from the last model.

>>3604022
Because that's what vshojo does.

>>3604022
doesn't fit her personality, she is wild and unhinged.
They just made her more sexualize when she already had the best personality all of the vshojo.

>>3604259
Stick that new model up your sore ass

But in all seriousness, i just feel like the original is cuter and has more personality to it. Also cleaner designs seem to be more appealing to me generally. The new one looks alright. Its nice shes experimenting at least.

>>3604022
Rosuu is a good pick.

>>3604745
It's not replacing S2 Mousey, it's more of an alt. That's why she labelled it as her OVA model and why they're both on her new start screen.

vwhores all look like whores as expected, so a cute model stood out. Now she’s whored up like the rest of them, soulless but more consistent with the group branding

>another vWhore going for the succubus look
Color me surprised

>>3604351
because that's what vshojo does, Unfortunately

>>3605630
They make people not a news anchor?

>>3604022
she wants to be a slut so bad but because of her condition the best she can do is to look the part online... kinda sad

>>3604022
this is the proper upgrade

>VShojo
>VShojo
>VShojo
None of you even watch Mouse. This is something she had planned since September or earlier.

>>3604022
+ The anatomy and proportions are better than 'season 2'
+ Fits in with her 'lore'

>>3604630
imagine wanting to associate with chinese dailymotion

>>3604022
They should call themselves VHorny because everyone has horns hahaha

>>3604022
everyone grows into an adult sooner or later, anon.

>>3604022
damn, i really liked her left one. right one looks like just another coomer twitchtuber

>>3604259
This.

>>3605839
I hope she and everyone just pretend Mouse 2.0 never existed, whoever made that abomination should be tried at the Hague

>>3605929
Does Projekt Melody have Horns?

>>3604503
>>3605839
>character lore
No one fucking cares about the lore, it's always been about the personality of the chuuba herself. There's a reason all the HoloEN girls' new outfits match closer to who they are on their streams instead of making Kiara look more like an actual bird or giving Mori a standard grim reaper costume. Mousey's whole appeal is her dorky/gremlin personality, trying to go for a mature, sexy look like Silver or Vei does not fit at all.

>>3606754
She's just horny; I suppose you could say they're internal.

>>3605939
Except their voices. It's fucking grating sometimes.

>>3606911
Very true.

>>3606754
No. Neither does Nyan or Silver. Hime however.. Do screws count as horns for a robot-dragon hybrid? I guess.

>>3605929
>>3606989
It's not really any different than how common cat ears are among vtubers in general, using horns instead just represents the more edgy/sexy nature of Vshojo compared to cute/seiso.

>>3606864
>No one fucking cares about the lore
Mouse does. Being the shonen and tokusatsu fan that she is, the moment she established that those bells were inhibiting her power as Satan this form was a foregone conclusion.

>>3607238
And there is a way to express that without the new model looking like a stripper.

her old model was the one that fitted her the most in my opinion. the simple cute one with the bell on her neck. if she likes her new model then i don't see a problem, as long as she's having fun. you can complain about it all you want just don't go to mousey herself and be disrespectful

>>3606500
would be better without the bondage gear and batwings on her head/feet.

>>3607523
I like the way they look in motion though.

I like it. But I still think her current 3D is best and hope she uses it today like she said she would.
I look forward to the shitstorm that will be Bubi's debut whenever it finally does happen.

This kind of slutty getup seems to be the standard for Twitch anyway so it's not surprising they're all gonna look like whores

>>3604227
False

>>3605706
What do the numbers mean?

>>3604039
The thing is that Ironmouse is a puerto rican bubble kid that started off as a glorified fan of vtubers.

Her initial avatar was a perfect reflection of that. It looked like a crappy bootleg VTuber designed in the lower depths of Deviant art with a budget as low as whatever is available on the wallet at the moment.
At the same time that gave her the entire personality. She was about as crude as her looks and the low quality gave her a completely different set of charms that is the polar opposite of most VTubers, which is that of a corporative puppet.

I won't deny, everything so far has been 100% an improvement. But there was a magical charm to her old avatat, which is that of the "underdog".

>>3608158
Subscriber goals.

>>3608158
Subs gained during the subathon. I think she hit all of them except maybe the demon form daki or it just didn't happen like a couple others on that list.

>>3608202
She didn't pass 3500 years ago?

Looks rat-like, like Flare's original model.

>>3606500
What does her Christian father think about this?

>>3604225
>Iron Mouse
>whore
I think if she has sex IRL she might die.

>>3608387
>my crippled whore of a daughter is making us HOW much money?
Probably.

>>3608387
He probably threw holy water on her again like usual.

>>3604635
failed abortion <3

>>3604022
Peaked with the orginal design.
Everything else is cringe attempt at copying popular things.

>>3608667
Mousey's zatsudans are always a blessing to listen.

>>3605839
- Looks like generic horny bait
And that's it. Anons are just purityfagging to shitpost because there wasn't shitpost material before. Every "Mouse hate" thread became a "Mouse neutral" and then just turned into "other VShojo hate" thread. This new model is literally the only thing they can criticize her for now.
I really hope there aren't actual purityfags here.

>>3604022
>Original design
Soul

>New design
Who the fuck is that motherfucker and what happened to Mousey?

>>3609434
You're used to her limiters-on form. Witness the true glory of the "muñequitas chinas" lover!

>>3609348
Virtually no one here is purityfagging, everyone knows Mousey is a degenerate who talks about sex and her fetishes all the time. The problem with the design is it completely loses her unique trash gremlin appeal and makes her look like a generic sexy succubus. She's better off playing to her strengths than trying to do the mature/sexy thing Silver and Vei already do better.

>>3606500
You might like it but you have to admit it doesn't have any of the charm the original had.

>>3609607
It's got thousands of people talking about her when they otherwise wouldn't even know about her. Ironmouse is basically using the "classic cola" strategy.

>>3608190
I agree with this post 100%
A huge part of the appeal of mousey was her low budget aesthetic.

>>3609434
looks like the coomers won

>>3609511
>She's better off playing to her strengths than trying to do the mature/sexy thing Silver and Vei already do better.
I'd argue that Vei's kind of in a similar situation.
>says she wants to be seen as sexy instead of cute
>in spite of moments like the ice cream van and "mamo, snieg poda"

>>3610681
"Snieg pada", rather

>>3604022
Its always good to have options. Her 3d model is the top tier

>>3604022
new outfit suffers from a bit of Gaia Online syndrome to me, still enjoy her content tho

>>3608158
Semen collected, in gallons

Why not combine the two? Have casual clothing and the other one?

>>3604022
>Why did Vshojo ruin her?
Vshojo is not structured like hololive. The streamers have far more control over their activities and don't have managers.

Hate new design.

>>3609348
>generic horny bait
Whats non-generic horny bait?

>>3609348
>Looks like generic horny bait
>I really hope there aren't actual purityfags here.

>>3606754
not yet

>>3604022
It doesn't look bad but it annoys me so badly that the eyes changed colors.

>>3613499
Using subtleties and simple outfits to bait the horny instead of flashy stripper getups.

>>3604022
Everytime I look at new VShojo models the only word that pops into my mind is overdesigned
Like what the fuck am I even looking at?
It's like you threw together a box of outfit props and doused them in superglue to form an outfit.
Why are there 5 different hair accessories?
Why has each extremity a different design?
Why does everything has to have a unique pattern?
It makes you physically sick if you look at it for too long. Did they get an overambitious 4th grader to make the design?

>>3604022
I don't see the problem. A lot of people are complaining about how busy the design is but it's supposed to be her final form. A final boss version of the regular Ironmouse with all her power unleashed since there are no bells and the bells are what keeps her power restrained. It's silly lore shit but lots of vtubers do silly lore shit.

wowee a generic succubus!

>>3615379
>final form must be as busy as possible
Ogey Nomura

All the lore bullshit aside. I have no fucking idea why she felt the need to be just another big titted Vshojo. There is more to this than just tits ladies

>>3615489
Are you new to video games? Almost all games that aren't realistic shooters do this.

>>3615489
Yes.

>>3606500
Went from freaking out after accidentally calling herself a semen demon to being an actual semen demon.

>>3615662
I wonder why you didn't post the actual final form of this very boss, which has a very simple design.

>>3604022
Its bad. The old one had a 'mousey' kinda look. The new one is eroge dungeon crawler enemy.

>>3606500
Why the fuck does every new design have to have mismatched accessories, different length socks, random belts and ribbons.
It looks like a bubblegum pink version of hot topic vomit.

>>3615854
>eroge dungeon crawler enemy
Anon, eroge are what they are because the creatures there are literally unstoppable if the protagonist didn't have the power of the cock. If anything, you're adding to the fact that this is her limiters off form.

>>3605706
>None of you even watch Mouse
Jesus, you're in an obvious bait thread. Let the shitters circle-jerk. You're not going to change any of their minds anyway.

>>3608190
Which "crappy bootleg Vtuber design" are you talking about? OP is kvetching about the left one, but that isn't even her first model either.

>>3604022
her first 2D model was so adorable

>>3616067
Assuming you're talking about babymouse I wouldn't really consider that her first model since it wasn't one of her own and just a premade one she found and used online. The one on the left is her first properly commissioned one.

>>3616232
Feels like a touhou character

>>3616476
Hell, it reminded me of Kanako.

>>3616599
Now you mention it, I can see the resemblance

>>3616476
It's Tohoku Kiritan who's... something related to Voiceroid I don't know I got it from the VTuber wiki I'm not weeb enough to know what or who that is. Yesterday Mouse announced that she's never going back to that model because it's outdated and doesn't work with her current setup anymore. Not that she really used it since getting her own anyway I think this was the last time it was ever seen and when she dubbed it babymouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k_bySN5vhs

>>3604022
I thought soulposters were just shitposting when I saw the previews for the new one but seeing them side by side like this... jesus christ you're absolutely right. New one is GARBAGE by comparison, what the fuck?

>>3608395
he doesn't know.

>>3616695
>she's never going back to that model
Oh no! Anyways, it's funny how the spics still remember "mouse chiquita". It feels like she progressed from child Dante, to Dante, to Donté, and now to DMC V Dante.

>>3604202
>completely changed all the proportions so she doesn't even look like the same character
>ridiculously overdesigned with cluttered tiny details and shiny shit everywhere instead of clean flat colors with defined silhouette and readability
Yeah no the new one is trash

>>3606500
>>3604022
>sayuri
There's no worse sameface artist in the west than her

>>3616998
>sayuri
Who?

>>3604022
I am so fucking tired of those generic leather straps around their bras

>>3616998
>>3617039
rosuuri. I have no idea how I managed to mangle sayori from ddlc and rosuuri into that monstrosity of a word

>>3616232
This design is great wtf?

Sure fuking upgrading your Vtuber model is good, but Rosu's style is an overkill to Mouse's character. It has the vibe of "I have a lot of money and jumped on the Vtuber wagon but I'm not really entertaining" vibe.

>>3617219
I'm just waiting for Nyanners to get the leather strap bra treatment

>>3606500
>Asymmetrical stockings
Holy fuck, this is the most played out overused design choice

>>3606500
I like it even if it's generic.

Vshojo is fun.

you guys think that's bad...
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1308624493229871104
that roxy mod is something else

>>3604022
It's Kiara's fault.

>>3604022
I guess you can't blame Iron Mouse for being horny.

>>3618115
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves thread
>gigachad.png

I'll admit I don't watch her, but that new design looks way too complicated. Like some kind of Slaaneshi symbol of excess, which I guess might be exactly what she's going for with the succubus angle.

>>3618059
Dont come here because you're mad you got banned

I think what I like most about the old model is it fits her voice and it looks a little dorky.

>>3605042
Pretty much this, large part of her appeal was her gremlin model, cute and untamed.

>>3618445
If he's that guy and got banned for something that mild it is pretty dumb. Even deleting a comment like that is silly, let alone a ban.

>>3606500
This, my friends, is a model with every generic trope imaginable.

>>3619189
Message deletion is not a ban. Most likely the mods were on high alert last night because it was a big moment for Mousey and she got raided by a couple of groups who are noted for their trollish behavior (Nux and Nagzz both raided her, with one of the groups doing a donation alert asking Mousey to promote Trans Rights, which she ignored). Anything after that went out would be viewed with high suspicion and any even remotely negative comment was going to get nuked just to be on the safe side.

>>3604022
dont even care about vshoujo or mousey but this is a clear case of SOUL versus SOULLESS

>>3604435
>summer
Sandals? The outfit becomes a 10/10 if she wears sandals

>>3605929
One of them is not even a girl, why they still want to compete against Hololive?

>>3605929
Don't even include Hime lol

>>3604022
>lv10
>lv50

I like both.

she changes models more than some of you change your underwear. She'll switch to another one in a week or two.

>>3604022
jus give her a opera gown or a nursing uniform and big anime swirly glasses and she'll be fine

>>3604022
looks soulless holy shit I'm out

>>3624702
>sandals
Oh shit, not the chancla

>>3604022
Rejoice you obnoxious fucks. She announced tonight that Season 1 Mousey (the one on the left) will return. The problem is she can't use it right now because it is no longer compatible with her setup. So, she is getting Season 1 updated with the original artist for her current tech and then it'll be a channel point redeem so people can put in their points to have her switch to it for a stream. She's also working on outfits for it and other models, including maid, swimsuit, and other stuff.

Ironmouse is becoming the doll she always wanted to be.

>>3604583
i see that her new model looks more similar to froot's

I think what mouseyfags are struggling to cope with is that their oshi requested for this. Until they accept that, they will not recover

>>3627253
At least she knows it's shit, imagine how stupid she feels for paying for that

I think the new model is really nice it's super detailed and pretty...I will always prefer her original model though, it captures her personality better than any other model she's used

>>3630137
they are btfo and in denial which is all vshitjo fans deserve

>>3616762
They never fucking know
They never fucking learn

>>3630477
If her current model was the one she 1st debuted in you'd be saying that about it instead

>>3620654
Different Anon here, no Roxy is legit something else. She definitely comes from the, "I'm gonna rip off your head and shit down your neck" school of moderation. She bans people for the slightest critique or really anyone she doesn't like.

>>3604022
honestly just get rid of the bondage straps and one set of the three sets of wings and it's fine

>>3620654
>one of the groups doing a donation alert asking Mousey to promote Trans Rights, which she ignored
b-b-b-based AIDS rat

>>3633673
pretty based

What a cutie. This a Mouse alright.

>>3627253
I'll believe that when I see it.

>>3630854
Honestly, yeah. I think it's weird when vtubers change the artist for their model. The way they're drawn is how you know them it's just how they look, like just like real people, but when they get a new model by a new artist they don't feel quite like themselves anymore. Her og (not babymouse) model is how I found her and watched her for a long time and seeing her keep changing herself so drastically is hard to not feel upset with

>>3630477
Who are the artists that can best capture her personality? You must have some ideas.

>>3604022
Mouse changes designs frequently, also you have shit taste and should kill yourself

>>3641628
Ketama, the artist who made image related. I just said that what did you not understand

>>3606500
How do you have such a plain and simple model look that busy holy shit it's an accomplishment to look that bad.

>>3605929
LMAO

>>3604022
So she has some kind of bimbofication fetish or what?

I hope you've all been donating plasma like she asked

>>3643195
she'll have to suck the plasma out my dick if ironmouse wants any of it

>>3604022
Her pre-vshitjou avatar was soulful and cute. Then it got sluttier, and now its just generic coomer bait tier

>>3604022
the new model is more appropriate to v-shojo standards, ironmouse looks like a cheap slut now

>>3604022
>before cannur
>after cannur
This is why you’re not supposed to collab with males

Both of those are a personality mismatch
S2 is peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHRC6LnM4ws

>>3604225
Hololive is just Digitrexv taking control of a V-tuber agency. Change my mind.

>>3604022
Holy Shit, How on earth was this approved? Literally Soul vs. Soulless.

>>3650599
That was the worst one by far.

>>3604022
certified bimbo

>>3604022
>cute demon girl
>a semi-naked whore
I knew twitch audience was a coomer but this takes it a lil bit too far...

>>cute demon girl
>>a semi-naked whore
>I knew twitch audience was a coomer but this takes it a lil bit too far...

>>3658036
>implying there are non-coomer audiences

>Imagine going all puritan for VShojo
Yes, VShojos should be designed wearing modest clothing

>>3658092
especially for VShojo

>>3658189
>Gura builds dirt benis

>>3604022
As if vcringe needed more tits.

Her old model had SOVL, newer one looks generic, like something ripped out of a mobile rpg developed by chinks.

>>3658240
>unintentional dirt dick in minecraft = this outfit
this site is 18+ anon

>>3658435
seriously tho, look at that image and point JUST ONE that doesn't look like they belong either on the street or on a fetish brothel.

>>3658440
>unintentional
That makes it even worse because the community coomed over it
Just like when they almost say something lewd but then they stop themselves so the autistic part of their fanbase doesn't have a meltdown over lost seiso, meanwhile chat accelerates to 1000 blushing emotes per second because their ears pricked up at the crumb of lewdness

I can't believe was bullied by the other vshoujo members to get a seductive model because it ruined their brand image

>>3605929
What an atrocious line-up of actual obnoxious whores.

>>3658435
Are Nyanners and Ironmouse really supposed to be that tall? What the fuck

>>3663867
haha u mad?

>>3617327
>>3616998
Her art is good but never had a certain charm to me. At least it's not uncanny valley tier like Yueko lol

>>3604022
It doesn't even look like the same character

>>3663970
Nyan maybe, Mouse no. Also, Hime is a kaiju and I don't think Melody has physical form. This really isn't a size chart anyhow, just promo art for the VShojo members slapped together.

>>3604022
boooooooooooooooooobs!!!

>>3604022
Tourist here, left one is better anyday.

>OG Mousey
cute doofus
>Mousey 2.0
absurdly cute but scuffed toilet gremlin
>3d Mousey
the same but even better
>Demon queen Mousey
doesn't fit her personality at all. Please tell me that this is temporary. Mousey is the only thing I care about in vshoujo and if she keeps this it would be a massive blow to my opinion on her.

>>3669648
When you're a bubble kid with aspirations to become a vtuber and someone goes and makes you a new model that's in-line with the big-name vtubers; you don't have the mindset to say 'no'.
The support she gets only pushes her forward towards the ideals of VShojo and the vtubing scene - constantly upgrading, higher production, bigger budgets.
Can guarantee that if she didn't have her circle in VShojo and people in her ear, it'd probably have been an extra year or two before she got a new model.

mmmmmmmmm booba

>>3669946
Of all the inaccurate shit in this shitter bait thread, this takes the cake.

>>3669946
>someone goes and makes you a new model that's in-line with the big-name vtubers
>Can guarantee that if she didn't have her circle in VShojo and people in her ear, it'd probably have been an extra year or two before she got a new model.
Think again. Mouse had this planned since September or earlier, back when her demon form was a subathon goal. VShojo likely had nothing to do with it as it didn't even exist yet.
>>3669648
>Please tell me that this is temporary.
While I actually like it and think it fits her just fine. Mouse has said it's for special occasions or just whenever she feels like it.. But it's probably gonna be mostly used for her talk show. Her S2 or gremlin form as she now calls it isn't going anywhere either and will probably still be her primary model.
Mouse changes things up a lot and if you've been watching her for long you'd be used to this by now. Counting the two holiday outfits, there were like five versions of her S1 model. She has a new outfit coming soon for her S2 and a few more coming down the line including a bathing suit and maid outfit.

>>3663970
Nyanners is on the taller side of the girls at 5’7

>>3604022
she really wants that erotic mobage audience. its a shame, she never comes off as slutty in clips.

>>3604022
i like the new art style better than the old cartoony one but at the same time it doesn't feel like her
i also hate the design on the right, they need to stop putting that stupid bondage harness on every single vshojo whore

>>3604022
Doesnt even look like the same character, more like something from a shitty nukige

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWyOpHF2MA0

Alphabet soup language time.

>>3606500
Generic "I have daddy issues and I'm also into cosplay and only fans" aesthetic kek

>>3663867
>whores
Isn't Melody the only one?

>>3673648
So is Nyanners in personality and being an unapologetic attention whore.

>>3604022

Why do indie EN whores seem addicted to completely changing his their models look?

>>3673814
>>3673928
why do you guys get so mad at le evil westerners

>>3673928
Why do people buy nice clothing?

>>3685295
clout.

>>3604022
>IronMouse
>not made of iron
>not a mouse
What did she mean by this?

>>3685424
It's metaphorical, Iron- refers to her ability to power through the illness ravaging her body and -Mouse refers to her small stature.

>>3685352
Is that the only reason you buy yourself something nice?

I really think the problem is almost entirely in the face. The new model's looks so lifeless, with a very limited expressive range, whereas almost any frame of ironmouse's old model you can read a (usually funny) emotion into it because of how it's designed. She's an expressive and over-the-top personality, so I don't know why you would hinder that with a model that does the opposite.

>>3685620
People that aren’t happy can’t seem to fathom others doing things that make them happy

>>3685620
Buying nice clothes =/= buying something nice for yourself, but sure, that's something I can agree with.

>>3604203
>sex is bad
No