/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Haruto and gamebu in the leftmost column
Sometimes you guys are alright.

>>3580271
putting all the memes at the top is stupid when it's preventing Ironmouse and Delta, both of whom have had objectively horrible lives, from being on top

>>3580335
Thank you, I'm also the guy who told OP to put Narukami dead center.

>>3580271
I'd change Aruran to 65 5, I don't think he's done anything wrong (that we know of).

>>3580389
>Delta
Please don't tell me you believe her made up stories...

Umiushi on either of these.

>>3580510
What has the koala done to deserve it?

>>3580432
To add to that, maybe Miyabi could be put to 50,5 or 55,5. As the first Holostar he had to endure a lot by himself.
You could also move Yashiro below Maimoto and put Miyabi below Nene.

>>3580271
Where's the polls, nigger?

>>3580432
I think at the very least flip Aki and Aruran. I'd think being hit by a car is a bit worse than being a starving artist.

>>3580606
Debi is a cheeky little shit and his singing is a crime against nature.

petition to move Mori to 55/95 representing her ability to get away with it

>>3580271
Pretty good, I'd just put Nyanners and Ollie on the top left.

>>3580720
>Nyanners top left
Literally nobody deserves a full 100 on the 'deserved it' scale more than Nyanners. If anything she should be off the scale on the right side.

>>3580720
No

>>3580760
Take your meds.

don't make a second thread for this r*ddit-tier shit when your first is still on the catalog you stupid /v/ nigger tourist

Wait a minute, This is just Reddit tier list.

>>3580815
>>>/jp/

What happened to pekora?

>>3580271
Azulim should be somewhere in the middle to top left.
Mel top left.

>>3580271
Why not use poal to vote on it?
https://poal.me/

>>3580271
Why is Arby’s roast beef a 100 on deserves to suffer?

>>3580971
adultery is a sin

>>3580271
Use polls you retarded nigger.

>>3580698
It's especially bad for Aki, considering she's a dancer and enjoys physical activity so much. Also, Aruran chose to quit his job iirc, so you could argue that his poverty was self-inflicted.

Bear should be dead centre.

The game implies /vt/ knows 400 vtubers, why are you so cruel OP?

>>3581053
If anything I'd lower the suffering to 40 or so.

Put all HoloCN rejects far right

Why does koopa deserve to suffer?

>>3580271
what does deserve even mean?
what did they do to deserve to suffer? theyre just playing video games...
except for sl00t, everybody knows what she did

>became extremely popular thanks to her PUBG skills
>quickly faded into irrelevancy after having revealed that she hired a ghost player
put her somewhere between rushia and NRKM

>>3580271
Kaede.... Miria.....

>>3581053
Menhera bear was bullied in school, but she's a kusogaki. So I think her suffering should be a 60 and deserved should be a 50.

>>3580510
Sara did nothing wrong

>>3581230
It's a meme chart, don't think of it too hard.

>>3580688
>>3580890
>>3581021
Olive boy calm down
Here's the link for those who prefer generic polls: http://poal.me/i8cm4d

>>3581510
anon..

>>3580271
Nyanners needs to be higher in suffering scale. Aside from her past, she has cyclic vomiting syndrome, so even good or exciting news can lead to pain and vocal cord damage.

>>3581510
Why is spade echo so high on the deserved to suffer list when her and yogurt were the 2 confirmed CNs to not organize raids and harass Coco during the taiwan arc? artia, civia, doris, and rosalyn were the ones trying to power play cover into keeping their models by using en fans as shields and still calling them dumbass white pigs behind their backs. Echo did nothing wrong.

>>3581808
Because redditors on this board make shit up.

shuba didnt deserve any suffering>>3581510

Adjusting, adjusting ◌

>>3581808
for being a kusogaki according to the anon who suggested her

>>3581946
I don't think Suisei deserves being so to the right. Her being psychopath is a meme/joke taken too serious

>>3581510
>http://poal.me/i8cm4d
Shouldn't Mel be higher? She was raped after all. Matsuro Meru deserves to go in the spot under the homo and above Maimoto. Kagura Mea somewhere bottom right, maybe?

>>3581510
Akkun Daimao: Got made fun of by Asano Ruri for being a virgin. 20 suffering, 20 deserved.
Asano Ruri: Made fun of Akkun for being a virgin and got off scot-free. Bottom row middle.
Tenkai Tsukasa/Bitou Kaiji: Got banned from jewtube for copyright reasons. All suffering has been self-inflicted, so maybe around 30,50?

>>3581894
I know that like most of the redditors hate the zhangs, but like come on, If they actually cared and followed what was going down they'd know that not EVERY CN was going down the chinese nationalist route.
>>3581946
Ok, makes sense. It just seemed jank seeing the one of the 2 Vtubers in that debacle not doing anything when the rest of the members were like playing wolf warrior and saying how much they love china and keeping one china policy was a priority on stream.

>>3580271
Put coco at 10-40 for “deserved,” she really hasn’t done anything really wrong
Put woohoolad in bottom left

>>3582043
She wasn't raped, that is a rrat. She was stalked and possibly molested but nothing more

>>3582181
Saying she was raped was just a joke, but still, being stalked and molested is bad enough to move her up a few squares.

>>3581381
How is she suffering?

Where would CodeMiko go?

Shartemis needs to move right some more

>>3580271
>hating pekora this much
wow your life must be really shit

Last update for a while
Poll links:
poal me/i8cm4d
poll ly/#/LnQQYvd3

>>3582866
real nousagis want pekora to suffer though

>>3582533
We bully the bear on the daily. Infact it's this crazy back and forth that has created some beautiful arcs. Plus, she was suffering socially before all the vtuber stuff. you know the deal, poor konbeni employee, no friends, and no life just to name a few. She's honestly reminds me of one of us. Freaky, I know.

>>3580271
Good to see Rose on here at all. but I think living somewhere where being raided and murdered is always a high possibility and being allergic to chocolate puts her in the 85-95 range. I don't know enough about the suffering of the other non-meme chuubas above her though, except for Mousey who's in a good spot

Suffering: 0
Deserved: up to you

>>3582867
Move coco further left >:(
Fuck chinkoids

>>3581068
Have confidence

>>3583121
>Deserved: 200

>>3583193
reddit review is enough reason for that 60

Where does the BR Oreo Shake land? I'm thinking bottom right.

>>3581068
we could have just had just 12x12 boxes and it would have been more than enough

>>3580271
Move all the CN bugs to the far right motherfucker. Also Sio wasn't even that bad. Switch Roa with the person she bullied.

Haachama and Hoshikawa on opposite corners, what could it mean?

>>3582533
>>3582916
Well given yesterday I'd lower the suffering. She was in tears (of happiness) over our organized gifts/celebration for her bday. Saying it's the best bday she's ever had. I'm guessing she has never had a party thrown for her before.

80, 40

>>3583272
Might make a smaller grid tomorrow, although we have thousands of chuubas to choose from

>>3583121
This is a /vt/ chart, not a /qa/ or /co/ chart.

>>3582867
>Bea in the center
perfection

>>3583453
>we have thousands of chuubas to choose from
it's rather silly to put vtubers that only one anon on /vt/ knows about though

never really watched froot before, any reason why she's to the very right?

>>3583121
Deserved 100

>>3583495
As much as it pains me to say it, he's /vt/ too

>>3583121
>>>/co/

>>3583634
cheated on her husband

>>3582867
Thank you for including my suggestions anon
Follow-up: zen at 85, 10

>>3583634
Cheated on her husband while he was in the military

>>3583636
Off-topic tourist spam isn't /vt/, moderator ineptitude shouldn't fool anyone.

>>3582867
Gura deserves being to the right? I mean, she ghosted her Discord and disappeared for months when she was her old persona and she is kinda of laid back but I don't think she is a bad girl

>>3583665
>>3583679
jesas, okay then.

>>3580833
Always has been

>>3580833
Always has been.

>>3583689
Add the oreo shake

I vote UOH for 40,20
And watamelon for 5,5

>>3581028
Japan work culture is shit. I'd still move Aki above him, but I can't blame him for retreating from the Japanese workforce.

x40y20

>>3581053
>>3581381

She feels like a 50/15 to me

>gura suffering at 55
>almost every stream is her eventually talking about depression

where this bitch should be at?

shimada at 80,15 chuuba with one eye and a brain tumor that is in the nina/koopa circle and rumored gen 2 tsunderia

>>3584125
depression is certainly suffering, but i feel that concrete suffering inflicted upon them by luck or by other people, rather than self-inflicted torture, seems like a more appropriate measure

>>3584181
I think Gura at 55 suffering 20-25 deserve it it's good.

>>3584179
Just below anon.

>>3583679
>>3583665
don't mean to add another (you) to the list, but when did this happen?

Korone is constantly suffering and does not deserve it. Behind her smile lies immense sadness. Her suffering was so bad she publicly considered quitting.

Why wouldn't you Have Kanata higher on the suffering? Shes slowly going deaf and was in a bad car accident thats crippled her.

why's Roa so high on deserved? I thought she was being pitied here.

What makes Subaru a 95 suffer?

>>3580271
Watame suffers 70? Since when?

>>3584403
reps, she had a terrible life

>>3584215
Do you mean 15, 80? That all sounds pitable (except being picked up by tsunderia)

>>3584457
the dual nature of sasaki

did we ever figure out what monroe did to get shoad?

>>3584389
It's because people blindly believe Narukami.

>>3584403
The only really bad thing I remember is her house burned down which led her to Hololive.

>>3584518
The 2ch rrats about tax fraud or having a public service job are believable, but we'll never know

>>3584457
left next to sasaki

Pekora doesn't deserve to suffer. She's a kind and big-hearted soul that loves all her friends and fans.

>>3584181
Male sharkshitter needs to be 90 on deserved.

>>3584518
>monroe
fuck I mean Monoe obviously

>>3584632
Damn that sucks I mean I never watched her but still its a bit scary that someone can disapear and you never even really find out why.

Where would Senzawa go?

Inuyama Tamaki along the centre line because he brings all suffering upon himself. I suggest 35/35.

>>3584457
Move JEnMa one to the left so she has inverted values to EnMa? Beautiful symmetry.

>>3584457
This just makes me want to know why certain people deserve to suffer.

Why does Debi deserve to suffer except for the fact they get to hang out with Patra. Which reminds me needs the 774 inc. girls

>>3584844
I think some of them are just jokes and others are actual shitbags. Debi might be there for shitposting.
We shouldn't take it too seriously otherwise it's a roommate chart.

Quick rundown of Froot? Why is she a 100 on "deserve to suffer"?

>>3585029
>>3583665
>>3583679
apparently

>>3580271
whos that whore that cheater on her husband and scammed /k/?
put her at s35 d100

>>3585153
Froot, she's already at S25D100

>>3580271
10 suffering
15 deserved

Wanna move to a 15x15 maybe? We'd be halfway finished. Demo in picrel, not up to date with some inaccuracies

>>3580271
What the hell did Engineer gaming do to deserve suffering?

>>3585153
People are talking about the cheating shit, what's this /k/ scam all about?

>>3585278
>shrinking the square

No

>>3585278
yeah maybe 400 is a stretch. However there's still a lot big names missing.

The Chinese should at least be further right than Coco.
Rose should be way lower, at least below Kanata.
Tree rat can be moved up a bit for having to put up with her weird rigging.

Why is Pekora so far right?
Why is Towa so high?

Where is Matsuri, I'm blind.

>>3585317
she sold patches but never delivered them

>>3585510
65 65

>>3585510
In the middle near Coco.

Significant disagree on Ollie placement. If she'd not done one or two things she did of her own volition she would be sitting at the bottom right corner and inclining to the moon.

>>3585510
She might not be on there yet so give her a rating if you know her well.

>>3580271
How come Narukami is not more to the right? He should be just a little bit to the left of rrats.

>>3585283
makes some on /vt/ seethe

>>3585283
>Making teleporters leading to death pits
>Turtling too much in 2fort causing matches to last for 2+ hours
>Cloned himself 14,530+ times to invade servers with his gaming skills
He's a menace, but still not as bad as almost everyone else.

>>3585399
>Why is Towa so high?
Clearly you weren't around to see her early days.

Aren't you people mixing up struggling with suffering? Just because people struggled before they got their break like Suisei and Miko that doesn't mean they suffered.

>>3580271
>Koopa
Should be way higher for her health conditions alone, poor girl has the works

I'd say Fubuki should be moved higher up, she's talked about being stressed due to having the highest subcount at the time, has mentioned having a ton of negative comments as a result of collabing with Holostars and tries to not get dejected from it, and is a workaholic.

>>3585704
I wasn't, I like her personality but I don't like Apex so I don't really know what is going on with her now either. What happened in her early days?

>>3585918
not to mention how she's a gacha addict as well.

>>3585926
Suffice to say the way "yabe" and its variants are used around here started with Towa. She spent a good time being forcefully ostracized inside hololive for it, and it took her nearly half a year to recover from the stigma.

>>3583634
Scammed people for /k/ patches too

>>3585399
Pekora was rated as a character, with her antics in mind

>>3584181
>moves coco one square to the left
OP pls...

>>3580271
wait, why does uto deserve to suffer?

>>3585763
I mean, struggling (even metaphorically) is a form of suffering but less intense

>>3585980
Even today Japanese make fun of her calling low viewer whore

>>3585399
>Rose should be way lower
You're joking, right? She could top the list just from the shit that's happened to her in the past month.

>>3586283
Yeah, but only the schizos that hang out at places like the holo or the niji anti threads or niconico do that now. She's accepted and well liked in any barely habitable community.

>>3586336
Wait, what happened to her recently?

>>3586138
because she's a cute piece of shit when she's suffering

>>3586418
what

What's Roboco's suffering?

>>3586478
I think he means it's satisfying to watch her suffer, as watching Pekora suffer for being a complete fucking dumbass has always been funny.

How the fuck is Kiara 80 and Rushia 35 when Russel was/is favorite bullying target and had personal stalkers months before Kiara even debuted and had several menhera breakdowns? Why do you think she's taking those unexpected pauses? If not for Kanata she would graduated months ago. Not even mention her asthma and one vein into her brain. If Kiara is 80 then she needs to be at least 160. And Coco only 70 when zhangs were literally shitting up her twitter, chat and even Mildom for months? Amazing.

https://streamable.com/a13tlr

>>3586404
>Robbed by temp workers a little while ago
>Attempted farm raid last week, brother got injured
>Running around during said raid reactivated some health issue in her side so she's been taking painkillers
>Had a bad allergic reaction today after trying some chocolate
Being africat is suffering

>>3586515
No idea, but she always sounds like she's about to cry. She's definitely suffering.

Thoughts?

>>3586515
she's a robot in a mans world

>>3586542
I thought this chart was for like how shitty they act and what level their comeuppance was
but I guess if it's just laughing at when they do dumb shit, it makes more sense

>>3586733
one more addition

>>3586733
Why is Pika that high?

>>3586782
No the chart is to represent their literal suffering or how much they deserve to suffer

>>3586733
Marine up to 60
Mori S45 D45
Bea S45 D35
Rushia up, by a lot 60-80 range

>>3580271
>ironmouse
>suffering
didn't know being a whore was suffering

>>3586826
then why does tenshi deserve to suffer, riddle me this anon

>>3586893
Because smug kusogakis get the belt.

>>3586825
>Suffering
hafu bullying when she was young
>Deserved
Being a cunnyseur I guess

>>3584662
this. i have a feeling she was placed there because of the "war criminal" meme but it's hard to tell if this chart is based on memes or real life

>>3586876
she has super aids

>>3586823
Pekoras suffering is all self inflicted therfore it shouldn't count

>>3586650
>one vein into her brain
What the fuck do you mean?

>>3586876
Anon she has giga aids and lives in a bubble. The dirty jokes are just her experiencing the phase of being a dumb foul mouthed teenager before she dies probably soon.

>>3586985
I didn't add pekora, I added China/zhangs

It's not her fault

>>3586823
Move Roa to S90 D50 and Meiro to S50 D100.

>>3587064
Who is this and what did she do?

Coco did nothing wrong

>>3586949
She has also seen a lot of her friends graduate, she was a close friend of Kaoru and of course Monoe, and also a lot of indie friends she had have graduated, though that still isn't really a lot of suffering.
Being as cunnypilled as she is it's based as fuck though.

>>3586650
Who the fuck is Russel

>>3587213
Phoneposter maybe, not quite sure who Russel is, probably meant Rushia.

>>3582903
Yeah, but not because she deserves it, but because it's funny and also her fetish

>>3580271
what is pekora suffering of?

>>3587109
She is Roa and she did nothing wrong.
https://twitter.com/yuzuki_roa/status/1318912752413364224

>>3587328
Miko's advances.

nice way of having narratives and doxx drama discussion and tribalism OP, very cool

>>3585386
Move Jenma over one square in either direction. Something in me doesn't like her on the side of an empty block, but I also want to see her suffer more, so either way is fine.

>>3586823
>West Taiwan at 100/95

Kek

How much are their stats?

>>3587328
Multiple counts of multiple war crime charges

>>3583679
>>3583679
she also scammed people on /k/, I think it was that she got paid for patches and never sent them or called back

Having GFE as oshi is suffering. She's a great artist, but she only suffers from gacha luck.

Nigger-Man should be 5, 5.

Maybe add a date in the corner of the graph, because this is fun and subject to change as time goes on. Could be fun to compare future graphs.

CodeMiko

S30
D80

>>3580271
Move Artemis all the way to the right you massive faggot.

>>3586823
>>3580271
OP FUCKING PUT NIGGERMAN ON 5, 5.
HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT FITS THERE.

>>3588030
Move WHL further to the right, he's unironically H*roH*i levels of dramafaggotry content farming but for vtubers.

>>3587012
medical condition, forgot what's it's called
she can pass out/feel very tired with non-normal blood pressure because she doesn't have enough blood veins supplying blood to her brain

Go Saito
Mahjong player

20 S
5 D

>>3584367
Back in the /jp/ days, Korone's suffering was common knowledge, but it looks like the new generation is too hooked on EN to know about it.

>>3588030
Why is Gura so high?

>>3588030
Why does Gura deserves to suffer?

>>3588209
Is it intracranial stenosis? People with stenosis have a normal amount of veins, but the veins are narrower and thus worse at transporting blood.

>>3591803
I am not sure, there must be a clip of her talking about it somewhere

>>3586893
I'm guessing some anon was butthurt thinking she leeched off ame's (and by extension hololive's) popularity

>>3590409
When she's the only one who has publicly considered quitting, even for a moment, you know she's suffering. The happy dog face and cute noises can't hide it anymore

>>3586650
70 is pretty generous if your "suffering" is having an unusable chat and twitter hashtag

>>3592874

>>3593159
I don't know mate. Having gore edits of your roommate or having your art tag spammed with literal shit for months seems pretty harsh to me. Certainly more than Holo CN aside from Yogiri.

>>3588030
I don't think I see Tokyo Ghoul. Put him beside Botan
>Most popular male chuuba with hag blue oni wife
>hates gays and chinks
>can only play Apex because of numbers

>>3593407
Korone is 100% correct here

>>3588030
>WooHooLad
This one deserves more, put him 70 or 75
And put Koopa on 60 suffer points or more, she has quite the condition.

>>3593159
Her suffering was pretty bad, and she really didn’t deserve it

>>3597265
Yeah seconding this, Woohoo is a fucking unfunny grifter fag who sends his retarded fetish porn to vtubers on Twitter “ironically”

>>3580271
Listner san should be 0 suffering and 90 for how much they should suffer

>>3597265
agreed

>>3597399
literally who?

>>3597265
>>3597399
Just as I was losing faith on this board, reading these feels like taking my meds. I know it's not a replacement though.
Fuck woohoolad

>>3597792
Guy who makes shitty drama videos on yt. He's not worth looking into at all

>>3597904
took a look at their channel, immediately recognized them, will be permanently written off in memory as: "Massive Faggot."

>>3591167
"Apathy is death."

>>3586698
Can you link the stream?

>>3586829
Why is Mori even so high on the suffering chart?
Just by Being Bullied in school hardly puts her into 30

>>3598253
the vod where she talked about the farm raid is gone. I don't remember the streams where she talked about the other stuff except the chocolate thing which was near the start of today's

>>3598198
Fair, but I think there are bigger things that deserve make one suffer. Even knowing what she did in her past life I don't think she deserves to suffer, she seems like a girl who was put in bad situations and having to deal with them or not know how to do it and completely ignore them

>>3598759
*Not knowing

How has Ayame suffered?

>>3584403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NYnT6wVLIc

>>3598805
Irritable Bowel Syndrome making her stream less. and people making rrats about her having a BF because of that.
Her eyesight is bad enough that she needs to squint to read the chat, with contact lenses on.

>>3583121
put it directly next to kiara

>>3598198
Fair enough, she’s a good girl. I’m sure she’ll struggle out of it eventually.

I'm back, let us commence forth

>>3602420

>>3602543
Watamelon should be 10/95 or somewhere similar. She is responsible for numerous great atrocities.

>>3580698
She was not hit by a car, she had to have an operation

>>3602667
But what about Watamage?

>>3580271
>ayame
>not deserving to suffer
thin-skinned WHOOOOOOORE

>>3605026
she gets what she deserves for hating Ina and publicly humiliating her and sending her racist tweets just because she is korean

What did Roa do to get and deserve so much suffering?

>>3605026
Honestly. Ayame seems severely misplaced.

>no Kano
>no Athena
>no Akira Mazono
>several holos and homos missing in action
>dozens of nijis missing
>no carol
>no Melody/Veibae/Snuffy
>no lilyhops
come on now!

>>3602543
kanae channel a square above tokyo ghoul

>>3605461
where to move her

>>3605713
into my room

>>3602543
Taiwan to D50 S80

>>3605917
Anya Melfissa in 25, 25

>>3581230
That’s what we have to fish for reasons to hate them that sound retarded in the grand scheme of things.

>>3606123
Doesn't her avatar make her suffering higher than that?

>>3606215
but being smug gaki doesn't help it. I'd say it's balanced.

Cover Corp should be somewhere on bottom right

No Kurumi? Really?

>>3581510
Ollie definitely deserves the right. She went full on pornographic in Hololive and all she got was a slap on the wrist.

mamaloni bottom right

>>3606979
if we're going to listen to these rrats everyone would be far right

>>3580271
Can someone enlighten me about the Subaru?
Why is she so high up?

>>3607062
>rrats
The video in question was shown plenty of times to see it for yourself.
It was unprofessional and set a bad example to boot.
Add the connor-bullshit to the mix and you got someone who doesn't give a fuck. She explicitly said she wanted "to change hololive".
Also rrats is all you got when it comes to Kiara, still she somehow deserves 85 according to you retards.

>>3607180
nothing was proven, it's still a rrat and remain one
yea she fucked up with the whole connor thing and wanting to rebel but she's still a dumb zoomer and she have learned her lesson, she doesn't deserve to be at the same place as the husband cheater and tranny shark

>>3607381
We don't know yet if she has learned her lesson.
I'm not a vindictive person but she should stay the fuck away from that stuff, if she doesn't want to attract the twitchcrowd. But it seems like she wants to interact with those thots (Like Kiara also does, with veibae even). In my opinion she should just join them, if she is unable to contain herself, else she's nothing but a filthy subverter, someone who ruins stuff because of a pathetic, uninformed sense of justice.
The holoEN/ID climate is already unstable enough.

>>3607158
I know she has a heart condition and at some point her house burned down, there's probably more

>>3607649
oh right, I remember the house fire now.

>>3581808
Spade Echo is unironically a whore who bitched about her branch mates even before Coco's big yab. There's also probably more dirt about her that I don't remember.

I'm interested to hear what you know about Rosalyn because I've been regularly watching chuubas since 2019 and constantly active on /jp/ then on here since early 2020 yet I have yet to hear any yab Rosalyn did. I'm not saying you're lying I wanna hear your rrrat

>>3605917
Why is yagoo twice?
I still think coco should be more left (like 30 on the "how much they deserved it" at the maximum)

>>3581808
I watched an archive of spade. Damn she's good at vidya. I only got to watch the scandal develop from the sidelines. She didn't feel like a bitch, unlike artia.
>>3607922
Do you mean HoloCN with branchmates, or do you mean the Holos of other branches?

>>3598253
Robbery: https://youtu.be/EmaIJdF1pb8?t=15101

Farm attack: https://files.catbox.moe/azwh28.mp4

Being a white farmer in South Africa is suffering

>>3608130
I fucking hate the ANC.

>>3580271
>Gura
>Suffering
She reached 1 Million subscribers on TWO different accounts. She couldn't be balling any more.

>>3608345
Clearly suffering from success.

>>3605713
To the bathroom before she shits all over the floor.

Mashiro only at 75 suffering? His mother tried to do a family suicide and his sister killed herself in front of him.

>>3584179
In the background.

>>3609171
Jesus, no wonder he loves horror and depressing theme

Considering the confusion between joke placements and serious placements, maybe something could be added to differentiate between the two - e.g. a red border around any of the serious placements (Subaru, Rose, Ironmouse, etc), or a blue border around the joke placements (Pekora, Debi, etc), or some other kind of visual indicator.

>>3608887
ARS on 80, 100

>>3609537
they all are serious

>>3609537
hmmm fair point, maybe we could split in some cases and have someone at two different positions, one roommate-related and one character-related (e.g. for Pekora)

>>3608130
>Being a white farmer in South Africa is suffering
With all those farmers being killed why is there no famine in South Africa?

tf is Mori at s45/d45
lower suffering by 10 points minimum
everything that has ever happened to her in recent history is caused by herself no?
if you think that this is unjust, please enlighten me

>>3609920
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/foreign-aid/southafrica.php
Look no further than zimbabwe to see how these things usually end.
Kangz can't into efficient farming.
Back to our scheduled program of chuuba ranking.
Ollie should still be moved to the right.

>>3608887
DuoLingo on 15 65

>>3610064
It says nothing about food aid. The article mentions South Africa also sends foreign aid to other countries in Africa.

>>3610085
while we're at it, where should Apex/Super Bunny Man/Uno/other games land?

>>3610179
https://www.siyabongaafrica.org.za/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-safrica-idUSKBN22C1TU
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-52701571
Why do you think they need so muhc food aid because of covid?
Cause they need to import it.
https://bestfoodimporters.com/food-importers-and-food-import-trends-in-south-africa-2020/

>>3610234
Sure, I doubt anyone here can name that many vtubers

Considering the subject matter of this thread, does anyone have that screencap from /jp/ detailing the baggage the majority of Hololive and Holostars have?

>>3610293
>Why do you think they need so muhc food aid because of civid?
There were no hungry people showing up at ordinary food banks or pop up drive thru food banks in the US or the UK during the Covid pandemic?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-food-banks-overwhelmed-demand-during-pandemic%3Famp


>Cause they need to import it.
South Africa imports certain food products because of bilateral trade deals so that it can export it food products to those markets.
As per article:
>”South Africa has a market-oriented agricultural economy that is highly diversified and includes the production of all the major grains (except rice), oilseeds, deciduous and subtropical fruits, sugar, citrus, wine and most vegetables. Livestock production includes cattle, dairy, hogs, sheep, and a well-developed poultry and egg industry. Value-added activities in the sector include slaughtering, processing and preserving of meat; processing and preserving of fruit and vegetables; dairy products; grain mill products; crushing of oilseeds; prepared animal feeds; sugar refining and cocoa, chocolate, and sugar confectionery amongst other food products.
>The agricultural sector contributed around 10 percent to South Africa’s total export earnings in FY 2019 at a value of $10.7 billion.”
https://www.trade.gov/knowledge-product/south-africa-agricultural-sector

>>3610820
I got schooled.
Alright, I'll give you this one. I just tried to confirm my biases here and I am in the wrong. Farming is even on an upward trend in SA at the moment. Now I know a bit more.
Still, Boers are suffering and It's no secret at this point.

>>3610948
>Still, Boers are suffering and It's no secret at this point.
Those Boers are forever suffering but still wind up staying in South Africa. Even got there own ‘Boers only’ enclave called Orania.

where should be the new nijiEN girls be? or is it too early to place them

>>3611134
Where should they go?
They aren't getting universal refugee status anywhere in the world.
UN considers SA a safe country.
Every civilized country has migration requirements in place and unless you are a refugee or crossing illegally you need to meet them.
That they formed a Boers only enclave, which is still growing, is certainly telling.
They somehow dodged multiple attempts at disbanding, and I can only imagine what shady deals they had to sign with corrupt politicians to still be kickin'
>“Destroy the money, destroy the damn flag. Charge these white, Orania ‘Boere’, for their racism, throw them in jail” - ANC veteran Carl Niehaus, 2020
Yeah, Boers are safe alright.
I fear I'll become an Africats saviorfag one day.

>>3612038
If Pomu is actually Mint then she'd be pretty high

>>3610032
aloe....

>>3612267
she's there

>>3608018
I have no fucking clue about the Hololive CN fiasco in terms of what happened besides "they had to leave covercorp"

So what proof we have of artia doing this shit and spade being a bitch? Is this just hearsay or there's actually proof of vid or messages?

Zettai-Tenshi Kurumi 5/100 no doubt

>>3613724
Why is Katana so high on the suffering scale? I don't know much about her. There's a lot that makes me curious on this image already, so much so that I wish someone made a list alongside it for why they ocuppy the square they're at.

>>3613977
Cuz she's deaf on one ear I suppose

>>3613977
Kanata is slowing losing hearing in one ear, got hit by a car last year, and apparently had a rough childhood. I hear that the last part though gets exaggerated and is misinterpreted by people who only watch clips to be worse than it really was

>>3614246
>>3614304
Thanks for the info.

>>3613496
>Zettai-Tenshi Kurumi
Jesus, is she being hold hostage or what?

>>3613977
>>3614304
>>3614458
Don't forget that she's raised by a single frustrated mother

How much have takodachi's suffered?

She's treated these well right? Low suffering, low deserved?

>>3612181
move to south africa with a gun. Its the only way.

>>3580271
>Bea at 90 suffering
Aw come on...at least put her at 80 or 85.

>>3615571
She's adjusted in the current version, in the very middle like she should be
Someone start a new thread soon btw

>>3615666
Apex at 100 S 95 D

>>3612181
>UN considers SA a safe country
>They aren't getting universal refugee status anywhere in the world.
Because despite the high crime rate
South Africa isn’t in the midst of a civil war e.g Syria,the DRC,Yemen,Afghanistan etc.
South Africa hosted more British tourists than Brazil Pre-Covid.

>Where should they go?
Putin was kind enough to offer them asylum in Russia but they decided Russia wasn’t good enough for them.

>Every civilized country has migration requirements in place and unless you are a refugee or crossing illegally you need to meet them.
South Africa doesn’t set out the migration policies of foreign countries. They are free to offer the Boers asylum like Russia did.


>That they formed a Boers only enclave, which is still growing, is certainly telling
South Africa is a very big country and Orania is in a remote semi desert province that almost nobody wants to live in. Young people can’t wait to leave that place for the cities as soon they turn 18 years of age. Orania is basically a retirement home for boomers who want to live in the middle of nowhere.

>They somehow dodged multiple attempts at disbanding
Never heard of that except for some politician saying something a few years ago on Twitter only to be asked by followers when is the ANC planning on filling the potholes in their town. Orania is possible because there is a grey area in South Africa’s constitution which allows minorities to exercise self-determination. Disbanding Orania will have to go through the courts and ultimately the Constitutional Court(South Africa’s Supreme Court) would have to make a ruling wether Orania is legal or not. Orania isn’t on the radar because they’re mostly boomers who don’t involve themselves in domestic politics. It would be an entirely different matter if they started secretly or openly hooking up with the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers and hosting its members in their enclave.

>and I can only imagine what shady deals they had to sign with corrupt politicians to still be kickin'
I believe the government negotiated a trade deal with China for Orania to export peanuts or something. Maybe there was kickbacks payed then.

>Carl Niehous
He is white btw and was a respectful member of the ANC back then but now is seen as a cartoon character very much on the fringes and in the camp of disgraced former president Jacob Zuma.

>>3615666
what did hinata do to deserve suffering?

>>3580271
who's that

>>3618324
(You)

>>3618324

Firstly: Hi SA-Anon!(or chuuba?)
>>3616812
>Putin was kind enough to offer them asylum in Russia but they decided Russia wasn’t good enough for them.
I didn't know that, I did my due diligence and googled asylum for boers and didn't see anything about Russia
But apparently at least 15000 did take Russia up on the offer since then.
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/boer-delegation-russia-considering-opening-up-borders-for-white-sa-farmers/
Granted, that is not much, but as things are right now SA is on its merry way to become a failed state until 2030 according to bloomberg article (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-10/south-africa-heading-toward-becoming-a-failed-state-group-says)) Their source seems legit.
Maybe more will migrate as push-factors pile up.
Glad at least one country was kind enough to invite them.

>Young people can’t wait to leave that place for the cities as soon they [...]
Well I can't really verify or negate that, as it's either local hearsay or straight up pulled out of your ass(But I think it's the first, you sound legit) but the demographics look fine(to me), according to the 2011 census
https://census2011.adrianfrith.com/place/374003
Looks still fertile to me. Especially 20-24 yo is prime breeding age. The huge gap in the male:female ratio is worrisome though.
You can't really call it retirement home with these demographics imho, even if our melanin-indeficit friends are breeding more willingly.
It would be nice if you could provide more recent data, as I can't seem to find a newer census.

>Never heard of that except[...]
The latest serious effort to disband it seems to be 2016 by the EFF(?) according to Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania,_Northern_Cape#Internal_and_external_threats
>He is white btw.
Doesn't matter to me, I hate the ANC for what they have done to a once prosperous country.

>>3615666
Move Pikamee to the left next to the Niji IN, she hasn't done anything bad.
well aside for wanting to fuck children.

>>3618522
No fucking, just looking dayo!

upd8

many major characters still missing in action

>>3618890
What exactly Gura did to deserve 55? Being kinda lazy is more like 35 max.

>>3618998
She's a bona fide kusogaki
>wow cute
>big funny

>>3618998
killed aqua

>>3619025
yeah kusogakis go to the right, these are the rules

>>3618998
said Ame's name on stream

>>3618324
man

Someone take over if they want, OP's going to sleep soon