/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3538377
OH MY GOD JC, A BOMB

>>3538377
Selling Niji to Cover for free

>>3538524
Nijisanji/Ichikara is unironically far richer than Cover.

>>3538524
I'm pretty sure YAGOO would still refuse it. Maybe if they only offered niji's 3D tracking equipment/tech for free
>>3538377
HOLOSANJI EN IKUZOOOOOOOO

"I am the storm that is approaching" or something like that

>>3538524
>>3538689
Hypothetically I wonder how a merge would look between the two companies

Obviously Holo and Niji collab sometimes but from a streamer culture perspective the two companies are quite different
I’d think that the Holos who were on the idol/GFE shit like Noel would probably just keep doing what they’ve always been doing, while the chuubas who already have friends in the other company would just collab more with eachother

The brands would be kept separate though

Please give me a yakuza lady with big tits and tattoos in Nijisanji EN

>>3538747
Is this the ceo of nijisanji?

>>3538786
There already was/is something similar happening with Holostars. Having two separated branches is not exactly a new experience.

>>3538873
Yes.

>>3538747
His aura is terrifying.

>>3538377
Who?

>>3538873

>>3538377
>CEO of Ichikara
>Teasing upcoming event
>Post barely has any replies
The absolute state of this company. Yagoo posts one picture of himself and mogs them without even trying

>>3538958
Nijisanji's Yagoo, basically

>>3539027
Wouldn't Iwanaga be Nijisanji's Yagoo?

>>3538377
NijiEN theme: Mafia and crimelords

>>3539046
He was COO before

>>3539025
>reddit

>>3539025
Probably because r/hololive is 10x bigger than r/nijisanji?

>>3539046
Depends in what way you are talking I guess. Riku is the CEO of the company like Yagoo is, but Iwanaga had quite a few Japanese fan memes and quite well liked, although he wasn't working on Nijisanji for a few years now and was in other businesses in Ichikara.

>>3538377
This guy dropped out from college to make a successful entertainment company, you just had to admire him, I'm the same age as him, and I wish I can also drop out from college and start my own business

>>3539025
imagine being proud of having more redditors.

>>3539509
not a nijinigger, but true

So are they ever gonna announce Niji EN? I want them to do it so Hololive can finally announce the Vsinger.

>>3539590
this

>>3538377
A FUCKING CRUMB MY LORD HAS SPOKEN

>>3539590
By the end of the month

>>3538377
he's letting me have sex with lulu?

I just want to see the designs

>>3538786
It'll just be an excuse for Nijisanji to mass retire their vtubers. Then the ones that remain will operate more like Hololive, getting outfit and 3D upgrade at the same time at eachother, doing more same gen collab and stuffs.

>>3539275

>>dropped out of the college
>>had a bad name back when still be a pimp
>>running Vtuber company using family's fortune and having backup by Sony
>>almost crashed the company due to managing it like a blackcompany
>>got bonked hard by their Livers and ChairHholder
>>lost most of the decision making power and company now start removed itself out of blackcompany name.

>>3539007
Wait, no shit? He's fucking cute

>>3540072
people tend to forget how Ichikara was at the beginning

>>3538377
Giving out used panties from niji girls

THIS WEEK FOR SURE

>>3540072
Literally everything there past dropped out of college is made up nonsense. The guy failed to get 4 different business ideas off the ground before launching Nijisanji because they couldn't get funding. Then he made a prototype of the Nijisanji app himself and showed it to investors and got some starting money.

>>3540168
That means Vsinger is coming out too.

>>3540211
There's no Vsinger though, there's VBand

>>3540168
You said this same thing last week, how can I trust you?

>>3540260
There was no CEO post last week, this changes everything, I'm 110% right

>>3538377
Im only accepting the deal if he let me sleep with masaru

>>3540572
Get out Utako.

>>3540189
Here we go
https://startup-db.com/companies/7748/ichikara
First investment in the company is an angel investor 大湯俊介 and here is the forbes profile on him
https://www.forbes.com/profile/shunsuke-oyu/?sh=24ea13699129
His business is known for an app for expectant mothers. No relation.

>>3540072
>ChairHholder
It's Shareholder, ETLchama.

>>3538437
dont worry anon, i liked this joke

KNEEL

>>3540974
>As I'm about to kneel HoloEN's Vsinger is announced
And I'm out

>>3540974
I accelerate

>>3538786
Less talent poaching and consolidation of technical/support staff, but I suspect the on screen product wouldn't look that different. The new company would want to keep the existing rivalry more or less where it is now so that managers, producers, and talent are still incentivized to perform at a high level and both branches continue growing.

>>3541059
talent poaching such as...?

>>3541059
>>3541097
The only talent who got “poached” was Luna.

>>3541148
Wasn't Korone also a Niji?

>>3541181
upd8

>>3541181
Upd8
Also similar to Polka she already aimed towards Hololive before joining

>>3541148
I suspected anon was refering to Luna but she quit Nijisanji and much later joined Hololive. So I wouldn't have called talent poaching

>>3538377
He sounds like an attentionwhore. Why not just post with the official Nijisanji account?

As much as holofans and nijifans hate each other im sure they hate this dumb retard >>3541059 more

>>3538377
People think it's going to be NijiEN, but he actually forgot about it and really just want to shitpost

>>3541148
Luna left Nijisanji, passed by 20 personalities and eventually landed in Hololive, that's really stretching the definition of talent poaching

Noel is probably suspicious since she got a mail that she passed the auditions before she even knew of Hololive but she didn't even join with those auditions and instead joined when she actually wanted to join Hololive and others were also trying to get her to join them

>>3540168
THIS WEEK I'M CUMMING ON NUI'S TITS FOR SURE

>>3541280
Pretty bad shitpost if you ask me, even the eternal shitposts in Coco's reviews are better than this

>>3540168
stop lying to us leaker-kun

>>3541059
If anything, a hypothetical merger between the two companies would have their technical staff share data between each others tech to better improve the existing 3D both companies already have.

>>3541394
You say this EVERY WEEK

>>3541213
Goddamn Polka has been great this whole time.

>>3541394
Literally built for horse cocks.

>>3541213
Any source on that? I remember seeing some anons say that someone in Hololive was trying to convince her to join.

>>3542021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0JkEHQYoe8

>>3539275
Was that before or after he sold the company to bilibili?

>>3542021
Oda always expressed admiration on Sora and desires of being on stage with her, Hololive was the fastest path towards that

>>3542060
She was right, but, especially at that time, how did she know she was going to be a lot more popular in Hololive?

>>3542108
Bilibili aren't even investors in the company.

>>3542060
Gotta love how brazen she was about it, even if it sounded like a joke at the time.

>>3542060
Man, those first few months after joining Holo must've sucked, imagine finally joining after looking towards that for so long only to find an instant drama scenario related to one of the members that joined with you and then the Taiwan incident, not to mention that Cover was limited on what games to play with limited rights

>>3542108
Whats funny about this is that Nijisanji totally sold out to China and yet, even after all thats happened, Aqua is still more popular than any Niji in China.

>>3542414
Don't think they are any more sold out to China than Hololive were before they fucked it up.

>>3542549
They did name their branch Nijisanji Taipei after all.

>>3542549
Let's wait until China finds out about this and see their reaction before saying they haven't sold out to China: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/l2eqp4/today_im_posting_some_pics_from_my_trip_to_taiwan/

>>3538786
>merge
Why would Holo let Niji waste their resource for nothing? 99% of their vtubers are deadweights and the 1% that aren't are around Holo's lower-mid tier popularity at best.
But if by 'merge' you mean letting the Nijis pay us to use Hololive's name then that might not be a bad idea. But the risk of them causing trouble while using Hololive's name might not be worth it though.

>>3542549
>investors:
>Legend Capital, Beijing, China

>>3542549
>before they fucked it up.
you mean before the chinks decided they were "better" and decided to throw a tantrum over stupid shit

>>3542663
Thanks, how do I post this on NGA?

>>3542549
On this board, doing any business with China is termed "selling out" despite the same standard not being held for doing business with any other part of the world.

>>3542663
No one cares if you said Taiwan. People get mad if you display it as a separate country to the Chinese people. Akane doesn't even have a Bilibili account

>>3541059
There is no rivalry between the talents, it exists only between the fanbases

>>3542663
>A-any minute now! Their CN branch will go up in flames just like Holo CN!

>>3541394
The funniest thing is that she is pretty flat irl

>>3542700
Even if I knew I wouldn't tell you because I'm sure Ichikara is willing to cut Akane and I don't want to wait half a year until she joins Holo since I'd rather wait until she graduates a week or so before debuting as a Holo member

>>3542785
LIES!! I DONT BELIEVE YOU

>>3542773
Pretty much the contrary, Akane will burn if she ever posses a threat to VirtuaReal

>>3542818
Yeah sure Hololive will accept someone like Akane who had zero experience doing anything internet-related and didn't know what a USB was during the interview

>>3542862
>Akane who had zero experience
>had
You've just proven why she can now qualify for Holo

>>3542785
It’s gap moe. The flattest flatty playing a ginormous titty monster

>>3542725
And?

>>3541898
You believe the rrat?

She was joking about joining Hololive but also doing a collab stream with niji about how to joined nijisanji as vtuber too

>>3542108
>>3542414
around 130 something members they have (not counting virtualreal), only 35-40 of them have bilibili channels. top dogs like tsukino mito aren't even part of that group.
compare that to hololive where every single member had accounts on bilibili and did simultaneous broadcasting, bar holoEN whose manager foresaw the shitstorm that was about to come and pulled the five girls out of bilibili (one of the few good things the retarded manager has done)
say what you want about nijiniggers but they weren't down bad in the chinkhole like hololive were before the taiwan arc

>>3542835
Think Rushia but somehow smaller

>>3540072
>running Vtuber company using family's fortune
holo rat

>>3542913
Put her in a colosseum match between other people who are also auditioning for Holo and you'd see her lying dead at the first strike of the bell

>>3542926
They restream on Bilibili too but they blur out the on-screen comments

>>3542926
It's weird to see how people try to make it into some principled decision by Hololive when you know they would still happily be there if it didn't happen. Yagoo has even said he wanted to be big enough in China to fill the Mercedes Benz Arena in interviews when asked about what his dreams were for the future of Hololive.

>>3542924
She still shilled hard for Sora since the very beginning, even if that stream was just a joke, once it was the time to choose either Holo or Niji, well, only one has Sora, plus she was pretty tired of the whole eternally horny vtuber thing

>>3542977
Due to her presence and easily identifiable fanbase with both JP and EOPs, Akane easily has better chances than what you think

>>3542926
>holoEN whose manager foresaw the shitstorm that was about to come and pulled the five girls out of bilibili
Holy shit, really?

>>3542989
>to fill the Mercedes Benz Arena
Because the China audience is the easiest way for that. Lots of companies think "I'M GONNA TRIUMPH WHERE OTHERS HAVE FAILED" and either stagnate or get screwed over. Chinese market is difficult, yo.

>>3542926
Holoen actually did have accounts

>>3542862
>Hololive will accept someone like Akane who had zero experience doing anything internet-related and didn't know what a USB was during the interview
Granted, Hololive asks for more nowadays, but wasn't Subaru a literal normalfag when she joined?

>>3542989
may is know the source for that claim?

>>3543157
I*

>>3543157
https://www.moguravr.com/tokyo-xr-startups-interview/
若山:
非常に貴重なアドバイスをありがとうございます。次に、これからのカバーについて、将来の夢をお願いします。

谷郷:
日本と中国で非常に人気のあるバーチャルタレントグループに成長し、日本だと武道館だったり、中国だとメルセデスベンツアリーナのような、大きなホールを満員にできるようなVTuberグループになりたいですね。

>>3543134
How often were they used? Never is the answer.

>>3543140
They won't always require streaming experience if they can see the raw talent. See mori.

>>3543222
I think Mori was probing the waters for VSinger, and it worked. VSinger will be a success IF ONLY THEY CAN NOTICE THAT HEAVY USE OF AUTOTUNE KILLS THE VOICE

>>3543222
they don't require streaming experience, they require some kind of media experience. It might be streaming but anything works

>>3543140
And she performed badly and was at the bottom of Hololive to the point she had to hang out with fucking maimoto until chinks and EOPs arrived.

>>3543204
They probably would've been used if the drama never happened.

>>3543134
accounts? yes. simulcast? never did

>>3543140
Akane qualifies nowadays either way, if anything wrong goes with her in Niji, she'd probably join Holo faster than Luna

>>3539509
Cope

>>3543066
no

>>3538786
Ichikara still wants to do business in china so that won't happen.

w

>>3544101
Wow this ^

>>3540168
Kek

>>3542667
Holy shit, the amount of misinformation is amazing. 99% deadweight is really clear how you never looked at the numbers, unless you consider roboco, mel and others the same.

>>3542818
Ichikara wouldn't drop Akane. They don't even drop faggots who are like 3 years without streaming.

>>3542785
I assume every girl is actually flat because they're Japanese

>>3544497
girls like Noel in Japan are pretty rare so your assumption is right

>>3544497
Coco and Noel are confirmed big. Other holos have stated that Lamy is big. Korone is confirmed medium. Rushia is confirmed flat. My jp roommate knowledge is pretty limited, so those are the only ones I know.

>>3542936
I refuse to look up roommates, but that still hurts to think about.

>>3544489
Ichikara seems relatively hands off too, I guess it'd be up to Akane to decide whether she wants to leave or not. But even then she's already growing her base and nearly at 100k.

>>3542663
Based akane

>>3544489
Why would they drop any chuuba? Unlike Cover they dont pay a monthly salary so they dont have to keep spending money on them besides the inital inversion

>>3540124
Angles and masks make all the difference.

>>3539669
>>3538747

>>3541097
iirc there was some return talent poaching from homostars to niji with the fisher guy. Dont know who his new persona is or how he is doing now.

>>3540974
Why does he look like a SEAnigger?

>>3546302
His face is still cute in those memes anon. the guy is 24 years old it's hard for young and rich people to be ugly.

>>3542785
Just like Miko

>>3545414
Idk, I'm just going with this because folks say that Ichikara drops vtubers when there's currently 4 that haven't streamed for more than 4 months.

>>3542785
Don't ruin our dreams

>>3539669
That Lulu in the background is pretty spooky

>>3547399
they dont drop their chuubas but besides their eventually 3D debut they surely dont recieve support unlike the top ones

what could he be planning...

>>3547646
Him? Nothing. He's too dumb to plan anything.

>>3547816
>so dumb he was the youngest multimillionaire featured on Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/profile/riku-tazumi/?sh=28661436e11f

>>3539669
He looks like a piggy with a permanent :I face. He's lucky he has money.

>>3547459
Do they? I see a lot of merchandise being shared on twitter and new outfits.

And depending on who you consider their top ones, I would say there's a lot who gets that kind of support.

>>3547459
Kataribe has not streamed for TWO years yet she still got merch

>>3548456
they get merch for special occasions just like holos (anniversaries, birthday, etc.). On the other hand they have to pay for their new outfits too unless you are part of things like ChroNoiR then Ichikara pay it for you

>>3548773
there are plenty of less popular members that get merchandise outside of special occasions

Will R*ddit make Ichikara memes like they do for Yagoo once NijiEN debuts?

>>3548710
Unlike Cover, Ichikara merch department is far better, they have their own web so they dont lose a cut whenever people buy nijis merch, they also dont have a time limit to buy it

>>3548843
you cant compare their acrylic figures and keychains against for example Hayato´s new custom wristwatch, but Im not saying its a bad thing they are a company after all, they want money too

>>3546459
The first gen white haired guy you mean? Anyone who can confirm that?

>>3549095
and then you get eli confier with a fucking $800 ring just like kuzuha?

>>3549177
suzaku did not go to niji, just check /jp/ holostars archives

>>3548868
Japanese nijisanji fans and Nijis themselves already treat him like a meme so probably

>>3548111
There are at least four pajeets on that list younger than him. Not to mention, he's a nobody in a business he claims to be a founder of.

>>3548868
checking the page they already are

>>3549287
>nobody
do holofags really?

>>3549209
just like Cover, if the chuuba want to add money and get better merch they can, look at Lamy´s sake for example. It was a personal project so Cover only paid a part of it and Lamy had to pay the rest. Its not like the company couldnt afford it, its just that its not fair for the other members.

>>3549230
Then who is anon talking about?

>>3548877
they also opened a shop in taobao so chinks will pay less shipping costs

>>3549430
I don't get it you were just saying that Hayato's watch was an example of popular members getting chosen for merchandise, but when a less popular member is chosen to be part of another line of rings they did its because they paid for it? It wasn't just her, Kuzuha, Chaika and Ars. You could even look at the previous time they did watches, which were of a similar value to the current time. They had people like Melissa and Sister Claire on them that time.

>>3549560
I didnt say they did it, Im just pointing out what chuubas can do to get better merch. If the company actually paid it all then good, every chuuba deserve to be supported by their employer. I would like to see them talking more about this kind of things but then again its very uncommon

>>3548773
Do you have a source for paying to new outfits? I keep seeing this but not much to prove.

>>3548877
I wish I was japanese to buy it. Like Cover, Ichikara really needs a overseas store to get better prices. Maybe in the future.

>>3549430
But if we go by your logic then outfits and merchandise aren't a question of support as the members need to pay for it. And a doubt but what do you consider support from cover?

>>3540649
>angel investor 大湯俊介

Fun fact: This is the guy who runs Prism Project now

>>3549849
I used to have one or two clips about this but they were not with subs if you dont care about it then I could try to look for them

>>3549849
um bro? tenso?

>>3542060
>Multiple japanese chat comments referring to hololive as homolive
Holobros... did we get too cocky?

>>3549833
High value special merchandise like that is uncommon regardless of if you are popular or not. You've got some watches and some jewellery, some ridiculous life sized acrylic stands last year? That is all I am coming up with really from memory.

>>3550007
gay is the norm now

>>3549897
Fits, the forbes profile says he sold his previous company to a telecoms giant and so does their website.

>>3549849
>And a doubt but what do you consider support from cover?
As far as I know when we talk about outfits, Cover pay for the official ones and the updates, I think any holo can buy new "extra outfits" but the company doesnt pay in that case, for example Pekora.
And the merch is like I said before, the company pays the ones for special occasions and when it comes to personal projects they divide the cost

>>3541394
You've said this every week for the past 30 weeks....

>>3549897
Although just to be factual after doing more research I found some conflicting information stating a VC firm called Skyland that specialises in seed round investment with particular interest in tech stuff investing prior to him in 2017 but nobody there fitting the relation narrative either.

>>3550404
Prior investors aside, that's definitely the prism guy. You can make another connection by doing a whois on the domain for the site, which comes up as registered to Shimada Tatsuro/島田 達朗, who worked with Oyu as Connehito's CTO, and seems to be doing the same thing under Prism

>>3544674
Pekora is medium big, Miko is flat.

>>3549438
i heard offhand that he reincarnated into nijisanji and was doing better there, but if im wrong then im wrong. Like i said i didn't do any follow up cause i dont care about holostars.

>>3550865
stop posting made up bullshit if you have no idea you stupid girlwatcher

>>3550902
seethe

>>3550865
Hmm then is simple. 6 of March of 2020 Yakushiji Suzaku retired, if someone for some reason have any clip of his voice, all we have to do is look at the male Nijilivers that debuted after March 2020 and compare their voices with the clip. I would try to do that but I am on mobile and is a pain in the ass to do, so good luck if some autist tries to do it

>>3550690
>Miko is flat.
Strange. Most Holos seem to have about the size chest as their models.

>>3557214
>debuted after March 2020
Only 3 guys debuted on April 4 in the JP branch. It would be widely known if it's him.

>>3550865
He returned to his old channel as a Youtuber with avatar just like the other retired members.

Stop this nonsense misinformed discussion, here's his channel https://www.youtube.com/user/sentankyofusho

>>3557309
Info I could easily find on mobile but it was a pain in the ass. Then it's done, anon was bullshitting or he is retarded

>>3549897
Are you kidding?

>>3558097
false rat from holothread about niji isn't nothing new

>>3557599
Holy fuck, almost 6 months straight of only among us

>>3558223
And thanks to it, he now has more subs than any of the homos.

>>3548868
Iwanaga( former niji boss) was already a meme long before Yahoo exists

>>3558097
>>3558207
There's literally nothing false about this, I posted collaborating evidence too. Is it that hard to believe that someone who invested heavily into Ichikara might decide to start their own vtuber company?

>>3542785
no...

>>3557599
this can't be real, who actually has the mental fortitude to play amogus for months on end?

>>3562456
you think THAT's bad? https://www.youtube.com/c/DisguisedToast/videos

>>3562499
>Assfaggots to Among Us
yeah that fits

>>3557599
6 months of amogus... imagine if he was still in holostars he could rival astel with his autism

>>3557599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rCzO2HZY2I
ClownSonKira...CEO

>>3563422
stop it hurts..

>>3538377
Geez. I don't even wanna shitpost about this because it's so sad. Is this actually the CEO or someone writing under their name, you reckon?

Either way, it's a dead fucking market. They should give up. Frankly I reckon Hoshikawa was their best hope at penetrating the Hololive Curtain, given she speaks decent English and become relatively popular among clipwatchers early-mid last year, but she failed completely.

>>3564204
It's bizarre how some of you have created a headcanon of what will happen and decide that a company should stop it's business practiced based on said headcanon alone.

NijiEN is dead.
When's NijiES?

>>3564420
Give it up, Riku. It's over. Hololive won.

NGL, there were plenty of windows open for them to capture the EN market, Ars, Gibara, Lulu, Hana, Hoshikawa etc. They missed out on every single opportunity so far, and now they are coming into the market with a bunch of major disadvantages. I hope they succeed, but it is looking like a tough road ahead.

>>3563422
Wait, it's that legendary NND collab. I didn't even know that was on YouTube.

>>3564881
7 of the POVs were streamed on youtube, guess the 3 that wasn't on youtube.

>>3564752
They should've debuted NijiEN last month. There was practically nothing going on so they would've had the entire stage to themselves. Now we are coming off the tail end of Hololive's massive golden week outfit reveal and HoloAlt is set to release something big next week. If they release anything this month they're going to be going head to head with Hololive, and generally that doesn't end up favourably for Nijis.

>>3538786
WWF vs WCW

>>3538377
HoloEN = HoloMyth
NijiEN = NijiMilf

The only way to save themselves

>>3557291
Miko didn't debut in hololive. She is from miko project.

>>3559678
No, I'm just surprised by the coincidence of all of this. That's crazy.

>>3559678
Sony, Cygame had their Vtuber company at some point, so no, everyone wants big piece in the new market, if you post that way then yagoo is also Mizuho bank owner's relation

>>3566238
I don't think the guy noticing that its the same guy was ever trying to say they were relations. Seems like a different guy from the one just making shit up.

>>3557599
Based

>>3566238
I don't know what the fuck you're on about, but you can literally do a whois on prism's site and see the domain is registered to the former CTO of Connehito, and in his followers is Oyu, and on the prism site the CEO literally has
>An entrepreneur who sold a previous company to a telecom giant
in his bio. This isn't rocket science

>>3538873
He is married, has kids, and is the CEO of a successful company.
And he's 24.

>>3567073
Fuck I feel miserable in comparison right now

>>3567073
why even live

>>3567073
I kneel