/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>337578
kayfabe

Good, Kiara is shit and she needs to be put in her place.

Calli is just introverted and kiara is honestly a little overbearing sometimes, I would get exhausted by it and snap sometimes too

Does anyone even care about Kiara by herself? She only seems to have any importance when she does something involving Calli

>>337578
>Yesterday she almost made Kiara cry because she was so fucking bitchy and grumpy for no reason at the beginning of their Q&A collab too, now this.
video?

>>337578
>literal incel cant understand why someone you're not interested in making aggressive advances on you non-stop might cause you to put your foot down and put up borders
hate to see it

>>337578
Got a timestamp to the first one?

>>337578
Shes a female autistic aka a narcissist

>>338351
She hasn't done this. In fact, during their Q&A, Calli legit sounded excited for Kiara to cook French toast for her. You're blowing shit out of proportion.

Mori doesn't know how to play along or express gratitude. Their collabs were cool, but it is grating to see how Mori sums up everything as "it was fun", if she didn't sound relaxed and happy, I wouldn't believe she enjoyed the vacation at all.

>>337578
She's just doing her job as the tsukkomi.

>>338444
>Calli legit sounded excited
Now I really don't believe you

There's zero chance Kiara wouldn't have gotten the message by now if Calli really didn't like her. They would have spoken behind the scenes if she truly bothered Calli.

If you were Cali, I think it’d be about the time that you get bored with her body and lips and feel like sample new tastes, as now you have many options. Right?

>>338573
Don't talk out of your ass. If you haven't watched any of Calli's streams to actually get the gist of her personality, you shouldn't speak on the subject. Yeah she can be blunt, but she's never been outright rude. Even Kiara's autistic ass understands that.

>>338616
This. It's been clear for months now that they're really close but Mori clearly has issues openly expressing her emotions especially on camera

>>338511
>sounded relaxed and happy

Err, sounds too me like the vacation was a great success then. You want her to be bouncing off of the walls? She even got Kiara naked in an onsen; I'd say it was an overall triumph.

>>337578
4 shut-ins and an extrovert

>>338731
She even admitted as much yesterday during their Q&A (and a few times before that but yesterday was more concrete). She and Kiara talked about Calli needing a friend when she has something to talk about, but Calli doesn't like bothering people with what she considers to be her stupid problems. Kiara basically demanding that Calli talk too her is exactly the kind of friend needed in this situation. I don't know jack about Calli's past but I have a suspicion she grew up in a fairly oppressive home. Not abusive, mind you, but the kind of environment where love was given and received based on accomplishments.

>>338860
Whos the extrovert???

>>338874
>I have a suspicion she grew up in a fairly oppressive home. Not abusive, mind you, but the kind of environment where love was given and received based on accomplishments.
She wouldn't be a cringe wigger if that was actually true

>>339007
Kiara by a country-ass mile. Calli's a stern workaholic, Ame's a neet, Gura's too retarded to survive in public, and Ina lives with her domineering Korean family, so she's basically Mulan before she went to war.

>>339007
kiara, obviously
I would say gura and ame lean extroverted but they're still shutins

>>339087
I mean, plenty of cringe rapping wiggers are rich.

Based Mori putting the annoying clingy menhera in her place.

>>339087
idk man that's the exact kind of environment that would spawn a cringe wigger rapper during rebellious years

>>337578
good kiara is such a emotional wreck

>>339087
People tend to react to that kind of environment in one of two ways. Either they fulfil their parents' wishes and get educated, get a good career but struggle to find happiness, or decide to reject the expectations wholesale and do something offbeat and rebellious.

>>338351
https://youtu.be/isi6jR93lvw?t=7600
Kiara talked about it here.

>>338019
I like her little interview program.

>>339256
>offbeat

>>339154
Mori is the cringest Holo though.

>>339356
Sorry, was talking about her getting pissed about the chocolate making stream

>>339447
Why, because she's trying to be a self-made woman that doesn't put up with her colleague's lesbian kayfabe? Calli's based as fuck; I'd tell Kiara to go suck an egg too.

>>339138
Did gura even collab with a jp holo?

>>339447
what does she do that makes you cringe?

>>338688
the tsun act doesn't really fit her imo. She always goes "ugh kiara stop it" but that act gets kinda boring. It does show that she appreciates her as a friend
I wish they would tone the whole lesbo act down a little bit

She struggles to accept affection. It's cute.

>HEY GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT MORI CRIES HERSELF TO SLEEP HA HA OH YOU HAD NIGHTMARES IS THAT WHY YOU WERE WHINING IN YOUR SLEEP HA HA

Why does Kiara think it's fine to constantly bring this up on stream over and over again

She's still be the best HoloEN. And no, Gura is overrated.

>>339552
Raping while being white and female.

>>339575
Because she likes Kiara and probably doesn't really mind Kiara's clinginess too much, but also isn't interested. This is assuming it's real, mind you, and I'm pretty sure it isn't.
>>339589
Again, oppressive home. In fact, I bet Calli was a military brat. I've known a few people who were who act very similar too her. Her dad probably made her address him by his rank whenever she was in trouble.

>>339447
Nah, starting off the bat trying to force yuri bait for number whoring is infinitely cringier than anything Moris done.

>>339662
I agree. Calli is number 1, Ina is 2, Gura is 3, Ame is 4, and Kiara is a distant 5.

>>339747
Kiara is also extremely cringe, Mori is even worse though.

>>339679
I think her songs are pretty good though, I have bought them on itunes to support her

>>338874
>I don't know jack about Calli's past

Watch this shit, it's a good story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMZ-rf1aBF4

>>339552
Her word choice when she opens her mouth is wiggity-wack at times. I'm down with jive as the next pimp, but sometimes she be straight trippin. Is it cute? Mos' deff my nigga, but it makes me cringe fo' real. Dig?

>>339447
both of them are pretty fucking cringe honestly, but Mori's cringe is more from just the sheer depth of her high functioning autism while Kiara's is mostly from clinginess or misreading a social situation

>>339714
You bet wrong do your archive reps.

>>339774
Kiara tries the hardest, though.

>>339858
Is that the story of her working at Applebee's and some Karen (lol) threw her drink at her? I know about that. Calli also cried. See, guys? She's an emotionally available female.

>>339926
Trying hard doesn't always produce fruit, anon. I agree that Kiara's a hard worker and a really good networker... but why does any of that make her better than her peers?

>>339926
And that's why she will always be a distant five, she's a try-hard. She needs to ease up and be less overbearing.

>>338770
I want her to express herself better. I know she cares, she planned the trip after all and conveyed her gratitude through actions, but I wish she had better conversational skills. She can improve over time though.

>>339714
I'm a bit like that. It might just be a sperg trait. Too much emotional smothering all at once gets overbearing.

>>339884
she just talks like a genuine individual who pulls they vocabulary from all over such that they don't fit into other groups that well
I definitely relate to that, as an estranged loner myself, but that's kind of why calli strikes a chord with me anyways

>>339930
No one said she wasn't. Also I bet that the Karen was actually a black woman.

>>339930
Mori probably deserved it I bet she was acting as rude as she does in stream.

>>339926
You can try hard to write books physically with your hands too. Or you can just print them out. I'm endlessly amused by how hard Kiara tries, but Gura doesn't give a fuck and btfo her number wise.

>>340139
Well there's always two sides to every story. I'd be pretty surprised if Calli did nothing but be a cute, wide-eyed high school girl to deserve that kind of reaction.

>>340075
this
she does good content but she alse feels like the least genuine of the 5

>>338860
>>337578
conflict/tension is necessary to produce authentic content in a never-ending stream that pumps conversation about those interactions

>>340234
Gura comes a previous life where she already had over 500k subs.

>>339926
And yet she still fails, how sad.

>>340286
>>340139
No fucking way would a woman act like that on her first day of work as a waiter. The woman she served was just a bitch. Her manager clearly agreed with Calli if he had a fight with the woman's boyfriend in the parking lot.

>>340521
She's hardly failing. Her sub count surpasses most JP vtubers and it's also on the same level as Ina.

>>338731
That reminds me of myself. I usually do sarcastic remarks when people help me. Hell, I can't even pronounce the words "thank you" or "sorry".
Hiding your true feelings under the mask of irony isn't a novel concept.
I still don't wish this to anyone. You can hurt people if they don't know you beforehand.

YOU MISSPELLED THE SIGN, YOU SPELLED "SUPRISE" AND IT'S MISSING AN "R"

If Kiara -or rather her VA- were here I would tell her this: HoloLive doesn't pick up shitty people. You being you're so fun your own merits is good enough to get you viewers. You don't have to be the poor man's Pekora. Also have your artist redesign your character model. You're a hoenix that's also super sentai themed that's also fast food themed? That also screams of trying too hard and being overbearing. Nix at least one of those aspects, and focus on being yourself.

>>340731
All her success is due to leeching off other people

During that Q&A, someone also asked what things make Calli and Kiara feel loved. Calli said that she couldn't have answered that before becoming a vtuber, but now people appreciating her work and watching her spergfest streams make her feel extremely loved. Calli just wants to be loved, guys, in a non-sexual way.

>>340909
That's still success, innit?

If Kiara -or rather her VA- were here I would tell her this: HoloLive doesn't pick up shitty people. You being yourself on your own merits is good enough to get you viewers. You don't have to be a bootleg English Pekora. Also have your artist redesign your character model. You're a phoenix that's also super sentai themed that's also fast food themed? That also screams of trying too hard and being overbearing. Nix at least one of those aspects, and focus on being yourself.

>>340734
Yeah, it's a real nightmare. People think you don't like them, when you're trying to handle the situation.

>>340817
She's a facebook, discord and twitter kind of girl with tons of IRL friends to speak to. Kiara's an extrovert. She wouldn't browse a shithole like 4chan.

I agree that her laugh needs to stop being a Pekora imitation.

>Mori antis hiding on their own circlejerk away from big meany /hlgg/
you faggots are pathetic

>>340909
Her success is measured in sub count and views. People are choosing to watch Kiara for Kiara.

>>341039
At least she has a laugh. Have you ever heard that mild exhalation of air that Calli calls a laugh? It's like the poor bitch never knew happiness before hololive and is struggling to relearn emotion.

>>340914
Isn't Cali just some loser art hoe with an air of authority to her in real life.

>>341111
This thread is mostly Kiara-antis aka trannies

>>341284
She's doing pretty well for herself now. As far as her having an "air of authority" in real life... how would I or anyone here know that?

>>340139
It was a nigger woman. You have not interacted with nigger women if you think she did anything wrong in that situation

>>341373
I'm only criticizing Kiara because I know from her roommate she can do so much better and be better off for it.

>>341194
>Have you ever heard Calli laugh?

Yes.

https://youtu.be/HQcEMiRCWT4?t=127

>>341194
"It's like the poor bitch never knew happiness before hololive and is struggling to relearn emotion."
Doesn't that cover most people here?

>>337578
(You)

>>337578
Because Kiara is clingy af and she just wants to tell her to fuck off for once, that was the nicer way of starting to taper it off

To me this yuri relationship seems extremely forced.
I'd be annoyed, too. Same with Ame and Gura.
Why do people always need to ship something that isn't there?

>>341977
rude...

>>341707
sasuga yeasty reaper

>>337578
you can't seriously be this autistic, op

>>337578

>>342748
Calli and Gura is the most natural ship.

I feel like Kiara's choco would be a friend choco and Mori can't discern it since she's always been so thick on the yuri uwu shit. Mori dislikes the yuri shit since she only wants her gen to be her homies and her chat be her BFE

>>342898
All three times they've interacted?

>>342748
Ame and Gura get along organically as friends pretty well and unlike Takamori they don't try to force it themselves or anything, it's just the cringe fanbase that does it.
>>342898
No, Calli wouldn't be into mentally ill zoomers

>>337578
Because Kiara is unironically a shit and is way too clingy and relies on being horny for Calli way too much. The act was fine for the first couple of days when it started. But now its annoying and just cringe, and I'm honestly shocked Calli hasn't outright told Kiara to fuck off already and move on.

>>343202
Calli knows Kiara's fucking off back to Chocolate Land soon and is being kind by waiting it out.

>>343190
>No, Calli wouldn't be into mentally ill zoomers
My dude she's a mentally ill boomer. They're two peas in a pod.

>>343190
Yeah, thats what I am talking about in general.
Those shippers are one of the most annoying cunts in the vtuber community.
Takamori is forced by the chicken herself which is really cringe.
Gura and Ame is forced by viewers. Shippers are literally a bunch of cucks.

>>339714
>Her dad probably made her address him by his rank whenever she was in trouble.
I'm a military kid and I've never seen or heard of this. That would be absolutely psychotic.

>>343313
Admittedly I've only ever seen this on sitcoms. Like House.

>>343440
Yeah, I don't think that's a real thing.

>>337578
Nice post schizo, go back to /a/.

>>343313
His full rank too. No, "sergeant" he's "Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force Dad" to you.

>>343507
Actually, I think this is a plot element in The Great Santini, which is based off a real guy. But Bull Meechum is one of cinema's legendary abusive fathers. It's definitely not common.

>>343671
Is she dressed as a maid?

>>339714
>Again, oppressive home.
But she's said that her parents have always been really supportive. Her mom even watches her streams and sends her videos of people reacting to her stuff.

>>343769
Worse, a girl scout.

>>343897
Oh yeah, that'd be really hard.

>>343841
Mom's are always the weak link in a family unit. You need a dad to beat the shit out of you and a mom to apply the band-aids.

>>343202
I mean, they came up with it themselves beforehand. They even set up the punchline in their debut streams and followed it up with the skit in their first collab. And if Calli didn't like it she would stop constantly liking Takamori art, stop retweeting it, and stop leading Kiara on. The thing is, Kiara is terrible at hiding her real emotions, they come through a lot at random times in her streams. Even if they didn't start out that way, Kiara's feelings aren't just an act anymore. But she has always been saying that if Calli was annoyed she would stop immediately if she told her to, and Calli has had many opportunities to make that clear offstream if she wanted to.

People who hate Kiara always say its just her pushing it, but it wouldn't be possible without Mori's help. And it never would have started without both of them planning it. So blame both of them if you hate Takamori.

I just hope this doesn't become a Matsuri situation. Because it could easily turn into that. I just don't want to see that happen to anyone in HoloEN. Fortunately Kiara is leaving Japan so she'll be able to get over Calli IRL once she's back with her friends in Austria. That should diffuse this before it turns into something too painful.

>>343269
Not really, Calli is just a bit autistic about her interests but she functions in life normally for the most part.

>>340135
A lot of (((demons))) in that neighborhood, you know

>>343940
Down boy

>>344013
>they came up with it themselves beforehand.
It was management.

>>344013
I think Calli just went along with it in the beginning because she thought of the whole thing as just acting

>>344086
Management doesn't set their talent's personalities, dingus.

>>344013
>I just hope this doesn't become a Matsuri situation
What does this mean?

>>340637
>her first day of work
Makes it all the more believable she had never needed to pretend not to be a bitch before that day

Is she good enough /vt/, or does she truly not deserve the attention and money? Keep in mind this shit made her weep like a little baby-boo.

>>344461
In that moment, I finally understood simping. I want to smother her with kindness.
I aint giving her any money though.

>>344461
>does she truly not deserve the attention and money?
who the fuck "deserves" anything

>>344461
she deserves it, her getting donations isn't really taking away from anything even if your don't think she does
either way, she's basically the only streamer I have given money to that I didn't feel awkward about
I'm also Canadian though so I might just be indoctrinated

>>344461
Of course she deserves it, so does Kiara. They all do. The money that gets superchatted at them is legitimately because people love them, or love the entertainment they put on. If you are providing me with good entertainment that makes me laugh or feel good during this dumpster fire of a year then hell yeah I'll superchat at you and hell yeah you deserve it. Its not different than me paying for alcohol from the store to drink away my sorrows except I won't become an alcoholic from it.

>>343947
My Mom's the one who beat the fuck out of me. My dad's always treated me with a thin veneer of respect badly hiding the disappointment he feels whenever he looks at me, but he never hit me, just talks to me like I'm a retard. Since they split, my little sis is getting all her bullshit.

t. spic mom, Georgia dad.

>>344461
It was worth it to make her cry.

>>338019

have you even seen her jRPG streams? they are a rollercoaster of fun, in a sense she is like miko EN version, oogles over cute girls, and will hop with chat in the pursue of achieving the most entertaining course of actions too.

>>344729
I know that pain. Mom and dad were abusive until I hit puberty then had a big ol' growth spurt. Then one day I hit mom back and she looked like she saw the weight of ages come crashing down on her. Dad tried to stop me so I hit him too. Then I ran away from home. Haven't seen either of them for fifteen years but last I heard they were separated and living in poverty.

Feels good.

>>344729
>Georgia dad
The state or the country?

>>344939
The state.

You guys do know it's a act right?
Right??

>>344729
So does this mean ame was beaten?

>>344830
Yeah I love those streams. The fire emblem ones were great. People don't watch those JRPG streams much and they missed a lot of her actual personality. People judge her too much from other stuff but miss what its like to actually listen to the streamer talk and open up about themselves. The JRPG streams are good because they are slow enough that there is lots of time for the viewers to get to interact with the streamer, and the superchat readings are always great to have on in the background.

>>345076
If the rrats are true, then probably. Hispanic moms are brutal.

>>345125
Ame's Hispanic? I thought she was a white blonde girl.

>>345125
I thought her family was Scottish.

>>345125
Can someone explain to me, a boomer tier millenial, what 'rrat' stands for?
Sorry for non v-tuber related comment but I can't even find it in the urban dictionary.

>>345155
She's a white hispanic that barely speaks spanish

>>345215
Rad Rumor Anon Tama
R.R.A.T

>>345317
Oh, she's Mestizo? Neat.

>>345215
thats because it's a term coined in one general thread on /jp/ that basically ended up getting its own board. it's short for narrative

>>345038
I know its an act but tsundere has to have some tsun at some point, its been almost half a year and Calli has made almost zero effort to act the "dere" part.

Honestly i think they should've talked more about this bit before making it official, Calli clearly doesn't care about it enough to maintain it, but they're too deep now so it would be awkward to stop.

>>345510
Calli puts the most amount of effort into maintaining the act, as little as that may be. How often do you hear Ame talk about being a time-traveling detective? Calli occasionally puking up shit like "Underworldian Japan" is bare minimum effort... but it's still effort.

>>344884
Good for you brother

>>345510
>doesn't care about it enough to maintain it, but they're too deep now so it would be awkward to stop.
She's just using Vtubing as a stepping stone for her music career so it's okay.

>>345620
Yeah the character act shes the one that keeps it the most but i'm talking about the "yuri" act. I don't know if Kiara forced it and Calli was taken by surprise but didn't have the balls to put a stop to it 5 months ago or if they both agreed to it but Calli gave up or realized she didn't like it.

Both are bad and honestly its my least favorite thing about EN.

>>345466
Thanks m8.

>>345666
Nice trips.

And yeah i think Calli will pull off a Joji if she gets the chance.

>>337578
/u/ fags on suicide watch

>>345510
People always say it's a tsundere act but it never comes across like that. It just comes across as one person being clearly uncomfortable with it and having to tell the other one to fuck off constantly. I don't really care whether this is Mori actually being pissed or if she is just EXTREMELY bad at acting and too autistic to tell how it comes across to viewers. But it is what it is. And despite all they've done together it has not improved at all.

They clearly like each other as friends but Takamori is fucking cringe. I mean, who the fuck wants to watch one person get rejected and cold-heartedly friendzoned over and over and over again? It gets worse when Mori overreacts to minor things that aren't even that /u/ and just comes across as a bitch, especially since Kiara gets visibly uncomfortable when it happens.

I have no idea how the leddit normalfags are able to just ignore this and pretend like Mori secretly loves Kiara too.

>>344461
I am amazed she isn't bursting out crying whenever she gets self-conscious about living the dream.

>>346123
>They clearly like each other as friends but Takamori is fucking cringe. I mean, who the fuck wants to watch one person get rejected and cold-heartedly friendzoned over and over and over again? It gets worse when Mori overreacts to minor things that aren't even that /u/ and just comes across as a bitch, especially since Kiara gets visibly uncomfortable when it happens.
Sounds like a harem show

>>346123
If you just watched the collab this was even more pronounced. There was some subtle hostility between mori and kiara. And I can't blame Mori in the slightest having to put up with that orange mess.

>>346364
At this point i put all the blame on Mori. If she really dislikes it she has to tell her privately to chill down the act. 6 months and Kiara is still trying to salvage the bit while Mori just overreacts.

>>346555
Yeah apparently Mori even helped make the Takamori sleeping video

At this point she's just leading Kiara on if she actually dislikes it

>>344013
>I just hope this doesn't become a Matsuri situation.
what happened to matsuri

Lot of autism in this thread. Takamori is a bit, they're just bad actors so it's always awkward. They are friends irl and you guys are weird.

>>346555
Here's the thing chicken is the one making the advances, not Mori. She should make sure Mori is confortable with what she is doing in the first place. If even this autistic place can tell Mori doesn't isn't comfortable with it chicken should be able to do so also. Same thing with the bullshit of Kiara saying Mori eats alot when Mori clearly didn't like that Kiara said that.

>>346364
>There was some subtle hostility between mori and kiara.
went over my head. anything you noticed in particular?

>>346710
I'm just saying my opinion that the bit is *too* awkward and they should stop it. Whats so weird about that? It's also my opinion that marvel movies suck, is that weird too?

>>340135
Name one(1) black woman who goes to applebees
That shit is white trash/trailer trash: the restaurant

>>346710
Thanks for the heads up Mori.

>>346710
MORI, BLINK TWICE IF SHE'S HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE EMOTIONALLY

>>346712
You're taking away all the accountability by Mori.

I would agree with you 5-4 months ago. Its clear Kiara will keep being a retard. Right now its all on Mori's court.

>>346789
Morinin... your archive reps...

>>346827
I agree, I'm talking about all the posts containing speculation on how mori clearly hates kiara who's an annoying bitch or omg I hope kiara doesn't get heartbroken by calli's constant rejections, is this another matsuri????

Please stop, it's just bad comedy.

>>346988
Of course it is Mori, but you have to remember, there's a lot of people who can't differentiate bits. Like folks who think War of the Roses, an old radio bit, look it up, was real. Comes with the territory. Especially if you do yuribaiting like this.

>>346935
I didn't mean to put none on Mori, communication works both ways. I can see missteps happen when they are busy and don't talk to each other as often.

Mori does not want to be tied 24/7 to the fujo lesbian shit.

>>347336
probably does, just not to Kiara
Gura is a bro-ish girl she could vibe with
Ame is the gamer girl she could bounce life traumas with
Ina is the calm collected girl she could enjoy a calm day with
But the bird is just too out there and extra, must be exhausting

>>344013
You brought up a narrative now spill the beans what happened to Matsuri

>>347444
>Extra
Hmm...monkey...

>>347444
By all accounts Mori is straight. Not just straight but has a fairly specific type.

>>347306
My hope is that they start fading it out once Kiara goes back to australia. If they don't then they both suck ass and Mori even more.

On the other hand i'm probably in the minority since everyone on leddit and twita seem to love this disaster.

>>346693
>>344308
Festival is almost certainly a real lesbian, and has/had a thing for Hoshikawa that isn't reciprocated and it all ended up being super cringy. Festival is cool, but the whole dynamic between the two is really weird as an outsider, and seems pretty one-sided (Hoshikawa shut down Matsuri).

You can search for Matsuri Hoshikawa (or something like that) for more details.

>>347508
Matsuri has an established pattern of falling so hard for people she repulses them

>>340135
Isn't Mori latina? Wouldn't surprise me with the way she told her story having to work in a bad area (hood/black area).

>>347508
See >>347537

The analog (which I think is false) is that Kiara is behaving like Matsuri in a similar unreciprocated fashion.

>>347537
>Hoshikawa turns Matsuri down
>Then proceeds to get handled like a toy in a kindergarten class by Gundou on stream
>Heavily implied she got banged out by her after stream ends
I think matsuri just sucks at getting the girls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiVk07oQZRY&t=1s&ab_channel=merin%E3%83%A1%E3%83%AB%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8A%E3%82%84

>>347656
>isn't Mori latina
No anon, she isn't.

>>347656
Mori both looks and sounds like a middle american white person

>>347819
I forgot about the part with Gundou, god damn. I've got a lot of empathy for Festival.

>>347907
Closest to latina would be Ame. Gura and Kiara are white, Calli is white-ish, Ina is korean, and Ame is sorta white?

>>347656
No, she's lower-middle class white

>>348053
Ame is latina (great now I'm the doxxnigger) raised in california around white girls (by how she talks). Her last name is certainly hispanic is all I'll say.

>>348165
>mfw I'm similar in most of the criteria
So you're saying I have a chance.jimcarrey

>>348165
Is this the new meme?

>>348411
>new
Leave tourist.

>>347528
Nah, we don't know what goes on behind the scenes, so it's on both of them. Anytime it's not blatant yuribait, they are good. .

Mori probably misinterpreted something here but the more Mori expresses her contempt over the ship the likelier this will stop. Fetishizing lesbian relationships for some company is pretty dumb either way

>>346840
Have you NEVER been in an Applebees when it's half off apps? It's, like, 90% black people.

>>348626
$5 margaritas are the blackest day of the year ill tell you hwat

>>348165
White latinas are best of both worlds. I guess Spanish just isn't treated as exotic and neat as German or Japanese

>>337578
>another based retard not getting her intentional tsundere acting
based retard

>>348708
What even is a white latina? Just a Spanish person? I don't know this terminology.

>>348708
Most white latinos in socal are just white people with hispanic last names, if that. Spanish skills hover around 0-10% on average.

>>348801
In an American context a "white hispanic" or latino or whatever is someone who is either 100% spanish or some amalgamation of other white person and mestizo. The latter is becoming very common in the southwest.

>>348801
>when the Spanish toss their genes and it ends up coming right back like a boomerang.

>>337578
All the EN collabs tend to happen like 30 minutes after she wakes up, so she's always sleepy, grumpy and low energy. She chilled out on the second Takamori stream yesterday. She faves, and occassionally retweets, tons of Takamori stuff on twitter, so she obviously onboard with it. You don't know shit about either of them.

>>348801
Latina and Hispanic are interchangable, but i've been brought up being told Latino/a is FROM south of the border of the US, whereas hispanic are people born in the states, but are latino ethnically

Sources: My cousin is an Ame tier white latina austinite

>>349005
>Latina and Hispanic are interchangable
Hispanic are North American
Latinos are Central American

>>349219
and South
God damn it I'm goin to sleep

>>349219
This would exclude latino from being used to refer to Mexicans and I gotta say, I've never seen that.
In real life people will call you whichever one they want, or god help you, Latinx.

>>349005
>>349219
What the fuck. Hispanic means being from Spain or one of their former colonies, Latino means being from Latin America. They seem interchangeable because most of Latin America was Spanish colonized, but Brazil for example wasn't, so Brazilians are Latinos but are not Hispanic. Spaniards are Hispanic but are not Latinos.

Its clear they're good friends, but Mori sucks at expressing herself. Kiara pushed Takamori a lot, but it has been months since she toned it down a lot compared to the beginning and is more chill about it. Mori on the other hand is a fucking mess. She leads Kiara on all the time, for example:
>Retweeting Takamori art all the time
>Hot and cold treatment on twitter, sometimes she is sweet to Kiara, other times she shuts her down hard
> Hot and cold treatment in general, Calli spills her spaghetti about Kiara when she isn't near her, but treats her badly when they're together
> Saying suggestive stuff in collabs, like asking Kiara to sleep with her in the Don't Starve stream, saying "I think you're cute, and fun and I like you" among other things in the Way Out Collab, getting jealous during the Minecraft christmas collab and throwing snowballs at Kiara and mishearding "making off" as "making out", suggesting she was pining for Kiara's attention during that stream, she was actually happy when she thought Kiara was putting a move on her and lending her the opportunity to play her part
All these things led me to believe that Mori tries to hard to be a tsundere and fails because she doesn't actually know how to express herself through this persona and she really fucking needs to chill. But hey, if you think Mori is uncofortable with this, its simple, SC her giving her reassurance to reject Kiara once and for all. Make her kill it. But I think you guys might be afraid of her reaction.

>>349684
It's best to not try to explain it, the terms are so interchangable at this point, it'd be like trying to argue "The" as pronounced "thee" or "thuh"

>>349806
So what does Latinx mean?

>>349855
Weird term created by academics and pretty much only used by academics. Widely unpopular.
It's an attempt to remove an explicit gender from the word, it's dumb.

>>349914
It's not like Mega Man X then?

If you think Calli and Kiara haven't slapped clams at least once, you're retarded

>>349855
It means "I'm a huge faggot, please raep my face."

>>337578
They're actors.
They studied this career.
They are performing their roles.
They immerse as their characters.
One plays as the whiny woman and the other as the leg humping degenerate.

Yes, anon. They are actors. None of this is real. It's all scripted.

>>349855
Was a term made by some company that wants to trademark it for monetary gain.
Pronouncing Latinx in english is bad enough, in spanish its very apparent the word in unusable

>>349949
>They're actors
God i wish that were the case for Kiara's over the top shit. She reminds me so much of a California girl with her grandstanding and unnecessary comments

>>349945
Calli is a straight white pacific northwest hipster

>>349949
>>>/out/
If you're not gonna be at least a smark there's no place for you here.

>>349945
Calli is very clearly into men. And it doesn't seem that Kiara has a very strong sales pitch. Think Kiara being Matsuri, and Calli being Hoshikawa

>>350011
You should go out, anon. You're kinda smelly.

>>350011
>smark
?????

>>350000
Fits her ugly ass design, at least.
The Californian design.

>>349949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ocsaRq3ns

>>349855
It's a term made up by feminist retards for inclusivity because adjectives in spanish are gendered so they would rather take a fat shit on the language than being referred to as a masculine plural.

>>350084
A person who knows about the kayfabe and criticizes within those boundaries.

>>350176
Where the fuck did you find that? The schizo dictionary?

>>350045
Kiara and Matsuri should get with each other, it's a perfect match

>>350280
Wrasslin' terminology. It's short for 'smart mark', a mark being a person who believes 100% in the kayfabe. Basically the intended audience.

>>344308
>>346693
>>347537
>>347819
To add to what's already been said about Festival, we know that her obsession with Hoshikawa is not merely LARPing because:
1.) Matsuri actually has a song dedicated to Hoshikawa on her channel, and she even sung this song as her individual performance at Beyond the Stage. The really sad part? Hoshikawa streamed over said performance despite Matsuri totally killing on it.
2.) Matsuri has verifiably spent thousands of US dollars on donations to Hoshikawa. I remember at least one occasion where Hoshikawa was embarrassed enough by her behavior that she (probably falsely) said that she was going to return the superchats later.
3.) Hoshikawa works for Nijisanji. The Cover management would never have one of their talents pretend to be gay for someone who is in their own company's biggest rival.

>>348913
To be fair she very clearly avoids retweeting actual yuri stuff. The only things from Mamaloni she ever likes is the stuff where they aren't clearly /u/

>>349949
>They studied this career.
Stopped reading.

>>350397
>Matsuri has verifiably spent thousands of US dollars on donations to Hoshikawa. I remember at least one occasion where Hoshikawa was embarrassed enough by her behavior that she (probably falsely) said that she was going to return the superchats later.

That level of simping to me is absolutely crazy. I've seen the "red carpet" she's bombed on Hoshikawa's channel before, and it would make even the biggest HoloEN super simps a little uncomfortable.

If it isn't just some dumbass game, I really hope someone (maybe inside Cover) stages an intervention.

>>350095
Holy shit can that squirrel get any more based?

>>337816
/thread

>>337578
Leave Kiara,
You aren’t lesbians, you’ll never be a couple, and your Yuri baiting won’t get us to like you or get you more viewers.

>>350872
She's not to blame for that though. Seems hololive really pushes the yuri narrative, and only cali really plays along with it
Ame does just for the fanart, but immediately leaves it at the door when she collabs with Gura, and Ina is as sexual as a frozen fish

>>350462
As long as California is part of the United States of America, sadly it will be recognized as one.

>>350966
>and only Kiara really plays along with it
fixed

>>350990
Gonna need you to follow a linear thought path here anon

>>350966
Ame and Gura flirt more than you might think. It's just subtle. I can understand why you'd miss it when Kiara smashes you in the face with it like a sledgehammer every five minutes.

>>337578
she just tsun u dummy

>>346840
You’re an idiot. It was obviously a place in the hood, and the way she talks tells me that she grew up around blacks.

>>351428
No wonder she hates them.

>>351444
Checked and yeah, probably. The people who defend ghetto blacks have never interacted with them, and I say that as a nonwhite

>>347526
The type being „embodiment of daddy issues“

Because she's a straight normie surrounded by prison gay fujoshis and savior complex orbiters

>>347508
see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm6SUmOSqx4

>>348411
go watch Watamote newfriend.

>>352056
Matsuri coulda had Luna, but she threw her out and now that girl is mind-breaking a duck into treating her like royalty

>>351565
Bro the most actually racists are the types that have lived around them. Whites are rather lucky in that regard, as the few that do make it to their neighborhoods can't make it there being a failure ghetto baby nigger.

>>337578
>it's a "westerners don't understand the concept of tsukkomi" episode
Getting tired of this rerun, you autists.

>>352421
>Thinking Kiara is anywhere near intelligent enough to do a straight man/comedy man shtick with Calli
Calli vibes with literally anyone else almost instantly, and when Kiara asked about this in their QA, Calli very clearly had to backpedal out of the more direct "because you're annoying" response
Kiara is overbearing, stop trying to redefine the parameters of her attitude and behavior

>>338511
she's just not good at acting like a tsundere and comes off as too serious

>>352056
That's the second gayest shit I've seen so far today, and I've only been awake like an hour

>>349709
meds

>>352483
wow i can't believe macchan hit matsumoto on the head on live tv
what an abusive relationship

Kiara and Calli are adorable in different ways, ones hyper with a cute voice and the others adorably autistic

>>352561
>Actors playing to a role and shtick that they rehearse for
>Vs 2 mid twenties girls who are extroverted and introverted, with a camera recording their interactions
If Abbott and Costello were alive to see your bullshit extrapolation, they'd die again from cringe

>>352639
They are coworkers. They are paid to make a product for you to consume.
And you're an autist reading way too far into it.

>>338019
she should drop that stupid accent she puts on and talk normally, her regular voice is super fucking cute

>>339679
>Raping
Kek

>>338089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3zAKMFfilM&t=0s

>>337578
>40k people watching
>gura rarely if ever hits 40k
ok, sure

>>353092
To be fair, the orange-haired one DOES seem a little annoying, and her "cutesy" personality just screams fake.

>>344586
People who die horribly and painfully. I'd say just about anyone deserves that, including you and I.

>>344586
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights

>>337578
Calli is just being tsundere and has genuine problems with expressing herself on camera while Kiara is just tempermental and has genuine emotional problems.

If Calli genuinely disliked Kiara then she would've told her off camera to fuck off or their manager would've. As for Kiara, she has always been genuinely pissed off at Calli and the others for jokes and humor like Kiara seems like a salty tryhard in every collab

>>337578

shizo meds now

>>352421
>Westerners don't understand the oldest comedic trope in the book, aka "The Straight-Man/Funny-Man" routine

Also, it clearly wasn't a "Straight-man/Funny-man" act.

>>339544
Gura has no time for plebian Vtubers under her.

>>352421
Easterners have never heard of Abbott and Costello or Laurel and Hardy.

>>339714
stop watching so many hollywood movies retard. jesus christ

>>338019
Her solo streams are fucking great, clip watcher.

>>354790
>eight hours late to the conversation

You have nothing to add, tourist.

It's amazing how delusional every single person here is, take your meds you schizoids

>>339129
>Ina lives with her domineering Korean family, so she's basically Mulan before she went to war.
Kinda want an InaCoco collab now.

>>337578
stop being a tsun, birb

>>348391
there's a chance* u stupid idiot

>>337578
You guys do realize that this is scripted right

>>339544
With Haachama I think.

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>>353418
>the orange-haired one DOES seem a little annoying

>>353092
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3zAKMFfilM
timestamp pls

>>356567
Lazy nigger.

>>352483
Yet Calli is the most open and real when talking with Kiara. She also treats Kiara differently because of that, never forget that Kiara is the only one she calls by a pet name. Part of tbe problem is that Kiara is sometimes dense as fuck and fails to notice when Mori is expressing how she cares about her. We've seen this happen a few times now.

>>347819
>yuri NTR'd by fucking Gundou
I knew the rest of it but shit Matsuri really can't pick up other streamers can she

>>337578
She is straight.

>>356126
>Guys, WWE is scripted

>>356126
It's less scripted than you think it is

>>352056
I feel really bad for Matsuri, someone really should just take her aside and explain that it's not meant to be, and she'll feel better just moving on.
She reminds me of myself as a teenager

The rest of HoloEN
>act like best friends

K*ara
>DUDE WE'RE LIKE TOTALLY LOVERS HAHA

>>337578
Kiara is an actual whore who's trying to forcefully feminise my boy but she'd never succeed.

Has any horny/obsessed Kiara-tier chuuba ever actually succeeded in banging her target?

>>357269
Luna tried and look at what happened to her

>>347819
GOD DAMN! I knew about Matsuri and Hoshikawa but I didn't know about this. Fuck that actually hurt. I feel so bad for Matsuri.

>>357459
I legit feel bad for Luna. I really felt like they had thing going and where one choice away from getting together then Matsuri just. Stopped. Luckly Luna doesn't seem as broken as Matusri and bounced back with ease.

>>357458
Crossick

>>337578
I think she is just putting on a tsun act but at least a little bit of it probably comes from how exhausting it can be to be around someone so outgoing when you're an introvert, even if you love them as a friend. Cali probably can't tell Kiara this because of how Kiara over reacts to anything she sees as criticism.

>>337941
>Calli is just introverted
Where are you getting this? She's absolutely not

>>357769
Calli was just grumpy after waking up and being put on a spot in front of 20k people (especially when it came to stuff like collabs, which she's clearly touchy about) and then was fine and bantering with Kiara for the next 4-5 hours

and Kiara instead chose to focus and bring up those 15 minutes because she's mentally fragile

>>357922
This, Kiara was the problem in this situation. She also picked out the questions so her putting that one in there in the first place was kind of scummy.

>>357813
Calli said so herself. The clearest was probably Trash Taste collab as she was pretty awkward initially. However, since she worked in various jobs, she were much better at handling social interaction compared with the other 3.

>>358056
>Trash Taste collab as she was pretty awkward initially
She was, but even at the beginning she wasn't THAT awkward. I think it was all within normal limits, especially since the others didn't really know how to handle the situation either.

>>358056
>>358175
she's an actual, non-meme introvert in the sense that social interaction just tires her out rather than energizing her (unlike someone like Kiara or Subaru, who are obvious extroverts)
the social awkardness and aspie habits are their own things, not entirely related to a person being an intro/extroverted

>>346946
is being a petty cunt a necessary part of your day or is this how your Occupational therapist taught you people interact with each other, you autistic fuck?

>>358268
At least one person knows what he is talking about.

>>351615
bro Cali's type is literally Charlie

>>337816
>Good, Kiara is shit and she needs to have my dick on her face.

>>358583
Side note:
I totally get it.

>>358613
OH NO HES HOT

And like 5’6

>>339535
Hi mori. How are you today?

>>358667
Kiara kneels to the buff manlet

>>358667
Height doesn't matter when you got swagger bro

>>356567
Just listened to the first 20 minutes. She never gets close to crying. If she did the comments on yt would be talking about it. Don't pay attention to aspies on this website.

>>358711
>>358726
I’m talking Mori’s preference that’s why she fangirls so hard for him

>>358811
literally everyone here knows what you're talking about bud
S'all good man

>>350966
Ina can't help it, she's a leaf

>>358583
Chicks with daddy issues love exactly that. Cool nonconformists with tats that they think will love them the way daddy never did because they are so unlike that pathetic loser.

>>358972
Who the fuck are you to come at the Moistest man on the Internet?

>>358998
He's a faggot and so are you.

>>359020
And so are you

>>358998
Charlie is a boring faggot that is popular because other ironically detached faggots on reddit find him popular. Like, good on him for dating to charity, making the music he likes and putting in the effort, but his personality is literally "whatever, dude".

>>356567
I guess he's talking about the first question so like 8:00 - 10:50, but they're clearly just playing around

>>359157
had a brain aneurism there, meant donating to charity.

>>359157
Man, you are one jealous Deadbeat.
sucks to be you lmao

>>359188
deadbraps mogged and perhaps literally cucked by the moist manlet himself
you hate to see it

>>359188
Sir, reddit is on another website

>>359207
Personally I love to see it
>>359214
Sneed, faggot.

>>357922
Oh, fuck you. Kiara was quick in turning getting past awkward moments to try anx have fun with Calli, she was a true professional. Calli was rude as fuck without even needing to and almost made her cry.
>>357977
Kiara picked 2 to 3 questions, the manager picked most of it.

>>337578
She should tell Kiara that she'd never be an idol.

>>338874
Honestly, it would explain her absurd work drive as well. She is constantly trying to do streams, make music, or do planning for those two. It wouldn't shock me if she did get raised n those surroundings.

>>338019
I enjoy her energy, since she's the most extroverted, talkative, and lewd of all the EN girls. I understand some people prefer more mellow streams, but I've always lived genki girls.

>>354136
Could be that she's just holding back cause Kiara is leaving Japan soon anyhow

>>359806
>true professional
Kiara is a whiny cunt who tried to force everything to be about her. Do you remember the audio after the Don't Starve collab when she was whining for everyone to shill her music?
It was funny at the end of the drawing collab when Ame said she had an announcement, and it was that Kiara had an announcement. They all know Kiara can't help but be a self-centered bitch.
Kiara contantly trashes her co-workers, particularly Mori, on her own solo streams.
At least she won't cry as much anymore since she passed Ina in subs. I hope she never collabs with any EN girl again so I don't have to hear her voice.

>>360844
Chicken lives rent free in your head 24/7 anon? kek

>>360844
You get used to her voice after a while

>>33758

u fkn stupid mate?

The tsundere shit is all fake stop being gay

>>360844
Delusional. Take your meds.

>>360844

Wow cringe.