/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining

BUM

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>34,654: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,083: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,262: Choco (Hololive)
>20,931: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>20,327: Korone (Hololive)
>18,462: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,449: Ange (Nijisanji)
>18,061: Hal (Neo Porte)
>17,696: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>14,093: Botan (Hololive)
>13,723: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,371: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,952: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,717: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,599: Salome (Nijisanji)
>11,151: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,117: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,734: Polka (Hololive)
>10,674: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,493: Mythia Batford (Indie)

>>34247124
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.453 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order
22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34.966 - 3D debut
23) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 67.731 - The Strange Tales of Nijisanji
24) Mito (Nijisanji) - 51.019 - Birthday gyakutotsu
25) Subaru (Hololive) - 52.721 - Persona 4 Golden
26) Aqua (Hololive) - 29.303 - New hairstyle reveal
27) Subaru (Hololive) - 34.357 - Otakatsu Exhibition
28) Pekora (Hololive) - 37.573 - Super Smash Bros
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 34.654 - RUKIMIN's Disappointing Adventure!

>PER COMPANY
24x: Hololive
5x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Pekora
3x: Miko, Subaru
2x: Ayame, Marine, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Mito Moona, Naru, Sora, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
174x: Hololive
87x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
37x: Pekora
17x: Aqua, Miko
16x: Kuzuha, Salome
12x: Subaru
11x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naru, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>34247124
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order
22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34,966 - 3D debut
23) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 67,731 - The Strange Tales of Nijisanji
24) Mito (Nijisanji) - 51,019 - Birthday gyakutotsu
25) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,721 - Persona 4 Golden
26) Aqua (Hololive) - 29,303 - New hairstyle reveal
27) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,357 - Hololive otaku activities
28) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,573 - Super Smash Bros.
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,654 - Syobon no Rukimin

>PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
7x: Pekora
3x: Subaru
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Mito, Moona, Naruse, Sora, Suisei, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
173x: Hololive
88x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
36x: Pekora
17x: Aqua
16x: Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
12x: Subaru
11x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>34246672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpbobJnMRlY
?
>>34246629
Yeah, sure it is, if you watch clips and don't watch other members. but even in clips yo ucan find members mentioning holos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igqri-T8ugQ
https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=XT7S7lqL8U0
https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=fCBd7dysB9g
https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=M_PluohFoRs

Sometimes I don't get bomu. If she wants to play with people who share her autism for minecraft she joined the wrong company lol

>>34247124
>>34247127
good choice of images

>>34247172
To be fair, she didn't know it was going to end like this.

>>34247159
Nijis have mentioned Holos and Holos have mentioned Nijis. People keep trying to use any of this as evidence for their side of the argument and it's so tiring.
>>34247172
Idk man, there's been single digit Minecraft streams in HoloEN this month while NijiEN has been spamming it

>>34247124
I have 74 left to post : )

>>34247172
she made the wrong choice and regrets it everyday

>>34247251
But that's the thing, even when they spam it they don't play it like how she wants to lol. She's upset people use creative mode

>>34247172
Tbf it's not like she had a choice. Also, she's the first gen of her branch, she pr probably wanted their server to he like JP holos or the early Nijis during Roa and Ars' minecraft peak

>>34247124
>>34247276

>>34247124
>>34247230

>>34247124
>>34247323

>>34247297
>she pr probably wanted their server to he like JP holos or the early Nijis during Roa and Ars' minecraft peak
It's even sadder when you think of it like that and realize her branch just don't give a shit or would rather build the bilibili logo lmao

>>34247124
>>34247332

>>34247363
ACCELERATE, BABY

>>34247124
>>34247354

>>34247364
>>34247124

>>34247291
Did she decide? Her character has always been "failed Holo."
And Rosemi's is "If she were in Hololive she might be more popular than Gura."
It's very sad.

>>34247297
pomu didnt even play minecraft that much before she joined nijien
>>34247363
a good bunch of them play minecraft weekly.

>>34247172
She could have never predicted Luca's hiring which has led to Nijiens server to be a soulless creative wasteland

>>34247364
I would have preferred buying this dakimakura version instead of the official one.>>34247124
>>34247400

>>34247411
>>34247124

>>34247363
What do Jap Niji fans feel about Bilibili? I know the JP members also have bilibili accounts but if they build the bilibili logo in their server, would that cause drama?

>>34247124
>>34247400

so no one in niji or holo has streamed the new gundam overwatch clone? why is bamco so retarded that they didn't get anyone to shill the game?

>>34247489
>Bamco
>Not being retarded

>>34247471
a bunch of jp stream on bilibili at least one time per month for years and are on events in there. no one cares.

>>34247444
>>34247486
>>34247124

>>34247489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43zVtw02taQ

>>34247489
Kinda funny that their biggest exposure was probably from the west for the first few weeks of the beta with XQC and other streamers trying it out

>>34247444
well you can try always try and make a custom one
>>34247411
>>34247124

>>34247489
there was literally a collab in niji jp today for gundam evolution, retard..

>>34247124
>>34247533

>>34247560
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34247574

>>34247530
The question I asked is if the pandering gets noticed on the youtube side, the literal bilibili logo building being a monument in their server hypothetically.

Botted Numbers.

>>34247609
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34247618

>>34247648
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34247663

>>34247690
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34247699

>>34247711
>>34247124

>>34247291
>Stream knowing your kouhai's get higher viewership and subs right after their debut
>Stream knowing your kouhai's have questionable amount of respect for you, one of them openly saying to not advertise her "dying channel"
>Stream knowing one of your kouhai's leaked a private discord conversation on the worst channel that was the opening spark that started the whole tribal crap
>Stream knowing your own company is slowly pandering to an audience that will turn on you if you don't respect their cultures, regardless If you know about them or not.
>Stream knowing your one place of peace in the Minecraft server got deleted by a kouhai that didn't know how to properly manage their own server
>Stream knowing your company prefers the male kouhai's over you despite the work you've put in
>Stream knowing your 3D and any chances of getting into the spotlight keep getting delayed for reasons your company could have prevented.
>Stream knowing you're in Nijisanji
I'd welcome Pomu with open arms into Holo, she'd be Koyori tier of effort if she was given the resources and tools to do what she wish she could do.

>>34247124
>>34247724

Thinking about making a vtweeter general. Obviously I'll add Vox and Kronii but who else is known for their tweets?

>>34247746
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34247758

>>34247617
mysta is a retard. he probably tried to make it because he was streaming in there

>>34247124
>>34247802

>>34247124
>>34247845

>>34247127
Another day, another gold for Hololive
Hololive is too strong

>>34247124
>>34247883

>>34247796
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34247910

>>34247919
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34247948
Me sniffing her bum bum cha.

found this on a matome site, do we agree with this popularity ranking?

>>34247755
Don't forget they cucked her out of watching the Nintendo direct last minute too lmao

What is the cat doing?

>>34247429
>And Rosemi's is "If she were in Hololive she might be more popular than Gura."
cope, rosemi voice is irritating
Pomu current audience would've been doubled or higher if she were in holo

>>34247883
Hey, I know this guy. He's mainly drawning Boobhus. Did he also jump onto chuubas?

>>34247755
yeah too bad she has stockholm syndrome she will never leave nijiEN no matter how bad the company treats her

>>34247124
>>34247978

>>34248015
Seems about right to me. I'd maybe move a couple around like I'd move Lamy higher, and I think they're overvaluing Iroha and Lui's recent strong performance int he past couple weeks, but everything looks generally correct.

>>34248015
need to split A tier.

>>34248015
Marine one below
AZKi two above
Ayame one below
Botan one above.
>>34247124
>>34248113

>>34247296
creative mode is boring and soulless for streaming

>>34248015
That's literally just sorted by average CCV, while in many cases higher CCV is correlated with being more popular, you'd need to take more things into account if you really wanted to do a "popularity" ranking

>>34248090
It has been a while already yeah, maybe a year even.
>>34247124
>>34248185

>>34247976
>>34247124

>>34248193
I agree that's why i don't think Niji spamming it really counts for all that much

>>34248015
Some of the A+ and A should he interchanged

>>34247124
>>34248228

>>34248234
>>34247124

>>34248015
Top tiers are uncontroversial, but I think Towa is being unfairly dismissed when she's one of the most prominent music oriented JPs. If that's not enough to be in A+, why is Shion there?

>only 21 posters
# is truly reclining

>>34247124
>>34248275

>>34248296
>>34247124

>>34248317
ALL ME TALKING TO MYSELF
>>34248349
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248323
The futanari version is cursed kek.

>>34248382
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248415

>>34248428
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248457
Pessi.

>>34248481
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248506

>>34248526
>>34247124
>>34248550
looks like were the last man standing in this thread kek

>>34247124
>>34248550
https://youtu.be/hIiqe_ZGTeY?t=7414

>>34248575
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248592

Numbers on the board.

grim

>>34248634
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248640

>>34248015
chammers should be higher, even if she kinda killed her channel with collage no way she's in the same league as Mel or AZKI.

>>34248674
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248682

>>34248696
stop living in the past

why is there so many pekora posting?

>>34248755
>Only 2 of these are streams from the 29th
are you even trying with these baits?

>>34247124
>>34248731

>>34248755
perish Zigger

>>34248755
?

>>34248722
>>34247124

>>34248696
You say that, but there's no way she's in the same league as Mio or Lamy.

>>34247124
>>34248802

>>34248842
>cheating
>when he was holding himself back with a limiter and just unleashed it slightly just to show that he could have easily took the top if he put 0.01% effort into it

>>34248844
>>34247124

>>34248842
Nijisanji and the Z, name a more iconic duo.

>>34247124
So, Mythia got on here with a whole full new character reveal.

Instead of a purple, sultry vampire, she's a gloomy, black-haired student? police woman?
I can't tell with that uniform and don't speak the language.

>>34248886
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34248885

>>34248722
I need the original peko illustration

>>34247124
>>34248939

>>34248927
>>34247124

>>34247296
They use it only to repair what homoboy destroyed right? It's the easiest solution since they have no backups but probably also the least interesting for the audience for the same reason, there is just no story to it.

>>34248803
forgive him. He's just trying to give the thread a shock to the heart

>>34248910
Mean to write with this.
Indies have done multiple character reveals before, with full models, where they became a regular persona in the stream.
Now that a "big shot" did it though, do you think it will be more common in the future?

>>34248015
I like how they especially went out of their way to add intermediate ranks to not make it look like lower tier Holos are unpopular. Literally a "everyone's a winner" tier list.

>>34248910
Its an office lady uniform. Office ladies are the meta now

>>34247124
>>34248989

>>34249026
Nah Luca in particular has pretty much always used it. Don't know about the others
Also you say that but you gotta admit it's kinda shitty to be using creative mode meanwhile Pomu is doing it legit. She didn't use creative for the rebuild

>>34248973
sadly i have no idea where its from i took this image from that peko edit anon
>>34248997
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34249083

>>34249036
Yeah, this fall asthenia settled in hard.

>>34247124
>>34249123

>>34249049
Well they are all in Hololive so yea everyone is a winner

>>34247124
>>34249167

>>34247124
>>34249198

>>34247124
>>34249251

>>34247124
>>34249293

>>34249082
I see it. Even the Korean Kusogaki got in on it.

been a while since we've seen one of these, $11 doesn't buy as many viewers as it used to hmm?

membership wallpaper

>>34247124
>>34249334

>>34249364
It was supposed to be the illustration for the summer song from last year (lol) no?
>>34247124
>>34249386

So what's up with unarchived karaoke rebroadcast? Is it just a way to get more membership or super chats?

>>34249120
>>34247124

>>34249442
lazy content with good viewership and money.

>>34249455
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34249427

>>34249442
the ones with usually shit timezones for EN songs do it

Moona, Mori, Bae

>>34249442
Usually a way to do it in a different timezone since those people can't watch live or vod.

>>34249442
you do it when you have a fanbase scattered along the world and you care about them

>>34247124
>>34249519

>>34248110
She doesn't have stockholm syndrome and no one treats her badly. If anything she praises them a lot. Pomu always wanted to be in nijisanji, she won't be out no matter how much you dream about it.

This is what happens when Gura doesn't stream
>>34249342

>>34247124
>>34249581

>Pomu always wanted to be in nijisanji,

Pomubeggars are embarrassing.

>>34247124
>>34249622

>>34249591
Genuine curiosity here but what does Pomu like in particular about Nijisanji.
I've seen the clip about her saying Niji is her top choice, but the clips doesn't say what she likes in particular about them. She just talks about wanting to be the one to build them up in the NE sphere.

Trips for the bum bum cha!!!
>>34247124
>>34249666

>>34247124
>>34249515

>>34249632
Anon she said that when Niji IN still was NijiEN and they didn't even open auditions, so prior to december 2020
https://streamable.com/8szf55https://streamable.com/8szf55

>>34249710
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34249707

Let me remind you guys this funny thing about NijiEN:
https://youtu.be/anWuvd-HvEY
Being a girl in NijiEN is pain
> NijiUK talking about how Lazulight got moon stones or some shit for their lore during debut.
> Petra complains that Obsydia didn't get anything like that in their lore, and management just went "good job everyone" after debut (lol).
> Enna : "It's ok, they(management) don't even know Ethyria is in NijiEN sometimes".
> *Reimu and Millie agree*
> Millie : "Have you seen any merch from us? No I don't think so."
> Reimu : "Have you seen anything officially from Ethyria? Didn't think so."
> Enna : "It's coz we're too ugly".
> Reimu : "The only official thing you're gonna see about Ethyria is probably like Graduation announcement or smth".
> Millie & Enna : "They're finally gonna make merch for us, it's gonna be the grandest graduation."
> *Petra meanwhile is silent throughout this whole rant*
> Millie : "Sorry Petra."
> Petra : "If you graduate, I'm coming with you."
> *awkward pause*
> Petra : "If you guys all graduate, do you think I'm gonna stay? I'm gonna fucking graduate too."
> Reimu: "You gotta stay, so that somebody remembers Ethyria in Nijisanji."

>>34249667
Her oshis in Nijisanji are Belmond, Amamiya and above all, Mito. you can see what she likes with that

>>34247124
>>34249774

>>34249775
They should be grateful they get merchandise in the first place. They could be like ID and KR and get nothing.

Weren't Pomu and Elira both in that huge indie Vtuber discord where they all gave each other tips to try and get into HoloEN (before NijiEN auditions existed)?
This is all old news anyway and the discussion never goes anywhere. She's happy enough where she is.

>>34247124
>>34249822

Pomu would have been a great Holo and the only thing lost would be the Metal Gear playthroughs.
She would have great collabs with the hags in JP,Risu and Kaela in ID, and everyone in EN with her Minecraft autism.

>>34249780
....but people make the same jokes about Mito graduating too

streams doko?

>>34249891
what that has to do with anything?

>>34249908
The joke is that neither of them fit what current niji is

RBC was in Aki's chat.
>>34247124
>>34249867

>>34249862
Don't see why they wouldn't if they had a genuine aspiration to make a career of vtubing. Any but the absolute biggest indie or small corpo would take either company if you offered it to them, whatever their personal preferences.

>>34247124
>>34249972

>>34247291
>>34247429
Both Pomu and Rosemi would probably mesh well with Council (who doesn't?) and end up serving mostly as side-kicks just like them, I don't ecpext anyone in niji EN to make it huge in hololive and take the full advantage of it's box, there's just not enough personality over there.

Anyway niji EN could use some real introvert and a nerd for a change, all of them so far feel like variations of normal twitch streamers or zoomers, that's not really the vibe I have with niji JP or even ID (Hana can be bitchy though) so it's like they really fucked up with the EN side of things.

>>34249759
>>34247124

>>34249947
that joke make no sense. Current Niji and earlier niji are the same. all of your complaints now can be done on the previous years.

>>34250072
>>34247124

>>34250057
>Anyway niji EN could use some real introvert and a nerd for a change, all of them so far feel like variations of normal twitch streamers or zoomers, that's not really the vibe I have with niji JP or even ID (Hana can be bitchy though) so it's like they really fucked up with the EN side of things.
Maybe early on, do you really think one would work nowadays?

>>34249884
Maybe, but when people spend half a thread writing feverish posts about how mistreated she is and how she totally must hate Nijisanji now it comes over as pathetic begging.

>>34250057
why would you want people who pull even lower numbers than sana

>>34250103
>>34247124

>>34250090
>Current Niji and earlier niji are the same
w

>>34249896
Ez NijiEn cripple gold two days in a row. Incline!
Looks like it'll be Mysta Minecraft with an outside chance of Kyo's Setup Review or Ren Genshin Impact.

>>34247124
>>34250031

>>34249896
Ame was going to play either Neon White or some kind of indie game at undefined timeslot. That's all you get for today

>>34250149
>>34247124

>>34250127
The numbers they pull on their current company doesn't mean they'll pull the same if they changed to a different one.

>>34249837
The more popular Koreans have gotten merch in the store.
https://booth.pm/en/items?tags%5B%5D=Yang+Nari

>>34247124
>>34250152

I unironically think Selen would do well in HoloEN. She fulfills a niche that's not being catered to over there. Gamer girl bro.

>>34250150
Yes, they are. If you watch JP its been the same thing as a viewer.

>>34250183
>>34247124

>>34250208
Yeah, that's why she did well in the first place, you know?

>>34249775
Have Ethyria just replaced Nina with Petra?

>>34247124
>>34250206

>>34250199
yes, but thats custom merch, they were involved in. Ethyria gets voice packs every time, they will get birthday merch, outfit merch when their outfit comes, anniversary merch, they were on the petit merch launched this week and will be in more in the future. none of that is a thing for KR/ID, only for JP/EN, by default of you being in the branch

>>34250237
>>34247124

>>34250195
you think they will magically become more interesting? even if their numbers improved slightly they would still be runts

>>34250248
Pretty much. Petra is extremely close with the 3 of them. Petra and Reimu know each other since 2018, Millie and enna for yers. they began collabing last year and they all became very close.

>>34247124
>>34250279

>>34250304
>>34247124

>>34250208
Her niche is being a pickme?

>>34249195
And you fuckers hated on Connor for telling the truth. HoloEN is like McDonald's at this point, everybody likes them because it's easiest to find their clips and you can be a fan without watching streams.
That's literally the only reason I originally liked them. I never enjoyed watching streams and could only stomach clips until I discovered Phase Connect and Tempus. Yes, fucking TEMPUS.

>>34250352
>>34247124

>>34250208
Or you could just watch her where she is.

>>34247124
>>34250343

>>34247124
>>34250385

>>34250362
It's an effective niche as well, no? But gamer girl bro types really aren't being catered to is my main point.

>>34247124
>>34250414

>>34250436
>>34247124

>>34250313
Different brand, Different members, different model, different community, different fanbase, different culture, different rules.

>>34250479
>>34247124

>>34247124
>>34250455

>>34250127
do you seriously think that if you took some nijigirls and put them in hololive they would have the exact same number of viewers? lmao

>>34250514
>>34247124

>>34250552
>>34247124

>>34250106
niji EN keeps growing so fast they can't maintain "one happy family" image for much longer, they will form a bunch of different cliques at some point just like it happened with niji JP.


>>34250127
What do you mean is say Ange or Tsukino Mito a Jap normie? I'm not exactly a niji fan but pretty sure they have huge smelly nerds and socially awkward weirdos on both ends of the number spectrum in the main branch.

>>34249896
will the LoL worlds finally put ragus into 3view? tampus has to be the hardest hit by that and the rio major

>>34250378
clipnigger

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING TO HER CORPSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPtPobkL-A0

>>34247124
>>34250519
Last one ( ˘ω˘)ｽﾔｧ

>>34250527
For the most part, maybe an increase due to a better enviroment but it's not like they would double their numbers or anything

>>34250590
>>34247124
>>34250665
o7

>>34250362
You could do it too, but you're too busy being a contrarian bitch.

>>34250805
>>34247124

>>34250664
Classic Achilles tactic, dragging the corpse of a beloved hero

>>34250879
>>34247124

>>34250711
Maybe, I always speculated that Holo didn't let Kiara Collab with Pomu because of the dangers it comes with doing so.
They've been trying, and constantly hyping up the inevitable Collab between two EN Vtuber companies, on the day that it happens that stream will have so many viewers (in theory), so many clippers will find moments to clip and spread around, so many posts on social media about it, it has the potential to spread like wildfire and Holo doesn't want that since it just leads to a domino effect of Holo viewers going to Pomu, and from Pomu to other Niji members, and then they risk losing a portion of their fanbase for something they 100% could avoid.
That Collab isn't happening until EN is legitimately 100% dead in the water, it's how JPs between Niji and Holo were allowed to happen in the early days, since back then there wasn't any real competition of viewers and it was more about trying to expose general viewers to the concept of Vtubers.
Now thought it's EN, and it's not just Japan but the worldwide market, any dumb decisions can cost you millions, just like when you party with the wrong person at the wrong time.

Tldr, don't get your hopes up for a Collab between HoloEN and NijiEN

>>34250988
>>34247124

>>34251065
>>34247124

>>34249780
Did she collabed with any of them yet? Niji EN feels kinda isolated form the JP branch, I know they collabed with that one dude a lot because he have good English by Jap standards but there was no real effort to connect the branches as far as I can see, nobody in EN is fluent in Japanese so it wasn't important for the recruitment team obviously.

>>34251038
>just like when you party with the wrong person at the wrong time.
just don't take the kronii route to keep tweeting dumb stuff and you gucci

>>34251119
>>34247124

>>34251038
Why are nijifags still pretending that holo side is the one blocking collabs?

>>34251038

Nobeta streams doko?

>>34251168
>>34247124

They skinned her and put her flesh on a robot

>>34249082
That's actually ID's JK (school uniform)

What the hell happened here? Why do we suddenly want Nijis to be part of HoloEN?

>>34251262
They are trying to go with that "repeat a lie enough and it becomes the truth" route.

>>34251449
Some of their fans are depressed about how they are treated in Niji and wish they can be happy inside the wall garden of Hololive

>>34251038
For some reason you are considering NijiEN like a small time branch, they are in a massive corpo getting shilled everywhere, with merch, appearances at cons and adverts promoting their songs to millions of views. Most of what they have now is their potentional caps and not much else is going to boost them outside of things like the Luxiem boom into a uptapped market.
Actual small corpos would probably seem some good growth on their talented members since they don't have the luxury of exposure to a massive audience, NijiEN doesn't have that excuse.

>>34251449
They only want Pomu to pull a Luna, which I see possible with a hypotetical EN4. I mean just look at the poor girl she looks like she is in shambles almost daily.

You can stop spamming images now you fucking faggots. It's been 6 hours since the tally was posted.

Weak asakoyo, i blame the hag viewers.

>>34251571
>which I see possible with a hypotetical EN4
It's not. If you joined Niji or Hololive, your only options is be and Indy Vtuber or flesh streamer.

>>34251449
Niji has proven to be such an awful company that we are actually feeling sorry for some of those fuckers.

>>34251550

>>34251449
Tribalists who like some Nijis but can't get over their dislike of the company

>>34251657

>>34248015
>popularity
If that were the case, Suisei should be higher imo. It's just sorted by CCV now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKbocLp4yO0
>Randomly does a karaoke stream at 6AM
>1/8th of viewers know to show up.
The importance of a time frame

>>34251720
Yeah, how big was Hololive back then? Did she get anis or get attacked for it? Do you think that management doesn't know about that?

>>34251262
>>34251485
I mean back a year ago I would have 100% said the one blocking the collabs was Holo because of the very clear difference in success
If you ask me now though I'd say both companies are the ones blocking it thanks to Niji now opening itself up to the CN market, plus the endless amount of drama that seems to leak out of that place.
At the end of the day though, if Pomu and Kiara collabed now, who would get the most benefit out of it, and who would lose the most out of it? Whatever reasoning you come up with is likely something the company concidered we well that made them say "yeah it's not worth the risk"

>>34251571
>just join hololive bro
how

>>34250362
A good portion of the popular HoloEN girls here are pickmes
>Gura
>Fauna
Selen would be very popular with Holofags. I mean she is already even in Nijisanji.

>Okayu's solo live (+Korone) at the same time as NijiFest
Oh yeah, i forgot about that.

>>34251802
Do the good ol FBK tactic.

>>34251852
Korone won't appear in the free portion.

>>34251787
>If you ask me now though I'd say both companies are the ones blocking
Why do you think that hololive is currently blocking it? I don't think it's true

>>34251787
nigger, holoid collabs with nijijp and nijiid, but nijien blocks the collab with holoid and hololive in general

>>34251852
30-40k at best. It's a paid sololive.

>>34251885
Not worth the aggravation with all the spergy fans on both sides.

>>34251715
It's not as if AnyColor's not making it any harder to like them as an organization.

>>34250664
>>34251387
dunno why you are surprised. they straight up said they would do that during her last concert
why else would they make a vocaloid based on her voice

>>34251805
>Selen
>Popular
Rumao

>>34251885
nta, but drama is a big factor.

>>34251852
Nijifest gold by a wide margin lol

>>34251920
Just like they blocked collabs both tempus, right?

>>34251309
Nijishillers think that attaching Hololive pic would make their subliminal lies more convincing

>>34251961
Oh yeah, just mean it's weird she has it on the same day.

When's the Shoto collab btw? I want to catch the meltdown live.

>>34252009
stars have never been blocked

>>34252084
tomorrow

>>34252094
They could if they didn't want the 'aggravation with all the spergy fans on both sides".

easy 10k for coyote

>>34252094
Someone is definitely blocking Alban and Regis from collabing. We just don't know who. Using the logic some people use that the bigger talent doesn't want to lose viewers it would obviously be Niji but idk personally.

Besides EN3, what's in store for October?

>>34252292
Monster based costumes

>>34252159
It's a smaller scale, rather than 2 companies' fandom.
>>34252230
That anon is referring between Holos and stars

>>34252353
Who's getting them?

>>34249082
no that's ID high school uniform

>>34252292
Council outfits i believe

>>34252412
Fauna is drawing costumes for Councilrys, does that count?

>>34251904
Holo isn't going to care about blocking collabs on their ID branch which back then was almost as much viewers as the NijiID branch, there wasn't really much risk there, yet now Kobo and the rest of ID 3 hasn't collabed with anyone outside Hololive despite constantly playing Valorant which is one of the regular games cross branch collabs play. Since they finally struck gold with Kobo and aren't going to risk her losing her fanbase to someone outside their company.

>>34252459
10k best

>News
https://twitter.com/virtual_kaf/status/1575412065510260737?t=dR7d7JOMOyOguG4srJSHCA&s=19
Go KAFtaro Go!

>>34252368
>It's a smaller scale, rather than 2 companies' fandom.
Are you suggesting some drama is fine within its own company?
>That anon is referring between Holos and stars
He was talking about the general power differents and not collabing with those weaker than you

>>34252483
any -vtubers- outside of *Hololive productions*

>>34252483
Kobo has played with a bunch of non holos, what are you talking about?

>>34252009
There is no upside to collabing with NijiEN to balance out the negative.
At least with Tenpiss they might have delusions about boosting another of their branches.

>>34252483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9buUGL_FRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e2MFrI1nyo
wut?

>>34252483
nijisanji internet defender doesn't even watch Hololive streams yet has the audacity to talk about them

>>34252593
So if tempus can't Collab with nijiEN, that would solely put the blame on Nijisanji? Cause they are smaller than them

>>34252483
Kobo will collab with shylily soon mark my words.

>>34252483
NijiJP gets featured and mentioned a lot in holoJP streams. Some holos calls in in on nijis too.

>>34252519
Yes, it was expected taking by reference what happened with the JP branches. Also management kinda washed their hands about the topic with >We let the talents decide

>>34252608
None of these are Holo ID3 though which is where they struck gold at, if HoloID gen 1 had already collabed with NijiID in the past before gaining relevance after the Fes they aren't going to start blocking them now, just like they haven't done with JP

can't wait for nijifest tomorrow...
this thread will definitely provide a lot of meme photos

>>34252751
>happened with the JP branches
You mean the stars thing or the NijiJP cutting most of their ties to holo?
>We let the talents decide
So they can choose to Collab with NijjiEN?

So is Ayame going end up with more hours streamed this month than Gura?

>>34252798
How are you this retarded? Why is NijiCN blocking HoloID?

>>34252886
>going to
already did.

>>34252715
NijiJP is bigger than HoloJP. You don't see Holos going on Niji streams.

>>34252976
>NijiJP is bigger than HoloJP
Stop living in the past, nijibro

>>34252976
so true sister

>>34252798
https://youtu.be/Z_qFbbrci2g
https://youtu.be/6qknqtJbinw
Management let her Collab with outsider. Other ID girls can Collab with nijiid, why would they block Kobo?

>>34252976
>You don't see Holos going on Niji streams.
you do if you actually watch streams

>>34253074
Feel free to link a stream as proof if you're going to say that

>>34253027
its over nijibros...

>>34253126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4usZyudZ6lw
This was less than a week ago.

>>34253126
https://youtu.be/dN63itOGCs4
Here is a clip and the source is in the description if you need it

>>34253167
>>34253176
nijisis, our smear campaign...

>>34253074
>>34253126
Apex collabs and call ins. But not 3d lives, variety shows, and official collabs
>>34253167
>call-ins
that's the best they can get

>>34252976
>You don't see Holos going on Niji streams.
Can you go watch Mito's recent totsu and come back ?

well holo and niji had an among us collab last year. . . But this is pre-nijiEN all out war lol. Pretty sure that shit had an effect

>>34253054
Probably because Kobo managed to get what Holo and Niji had been trying to get before even EN debuted, which was an actual ID audience. I don't really see a problem with Kobo collabing with people as long as it's not another ID Vtuber based company, since that's the target audience the company aims for.

>>34253250
Dude, this is sad.

>>34253167
>>34253176
>>34253235
>Mito
Doesn't count, she's an actual legend whose brand transcends Nijisanji. It's like how you can hate PSG or Barca but love Messi.

>>34251885
I saw a post yesterday in numbers, talking about the early days of Hololive being the orbiters around the bigger Nijisanji before Gen 3. Most of their members were 2 to 3 views and used to collab a lot with Nijis, males or females.
Later when Holo got popular they started to avoid Nijisanji like plague.

My theory is that Holo EN and Niji EN doesn´t wanna risk their box for each other in a collab, because the talent that stands out the most will get the most numbers by simple basis of entertaiment value. Just think about it anon, which talents can appeal more to the mainstream demographic that consumes vtubers in NA and SEA?
In a way, tribalism does serve a purpose, which only rises a question which Idk if I wanna make.

>>34253326
did you copy this post?
>I saw a post yesterday in numbers,
nigga, you ARE in /#/. the fuck you typing in 3rd person

>>34253027
>>34253141
Nijifes is going shut you fuckers up once and for all. The events lined up already mog holofes which had what a shitty concert and a convention with no actives attached to it. Plus to many people nijisanji is mainstream while hololive is the shitty otaku hobby. So people respect nijsanji as respectable brand more than hololive.
Here what nijifes has
> Elira and hana machina 3D for free
> A entire doujin section
> A massive two day concert
>Next en wave teaser
>Massive pannels
>Rooms for diffrent branches
>They flow their talents out to japan.
>Sold out in a minute
>Is in one of the biggest convention areas in japan
Don't forget the only reason why holofes exist is due to them copying nijifes.

>>34253239
well there are these, but not the same scale and involving people from other agencies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0zuUO7Li7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnFBURedeyY