/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>34251687
Based twitter tourist gaslighting attempt

>>34251687
She fucks up and you blame the kronies?

she was always a mess

>>34251687
Kronii didn't do anything *wrong*, in that telling your audience to go fuck themselves isn't illegal or even morally wrong. But she did do lots of things that were *stupid*.
Fuck off. Everything bad happening to Kronii right now is deserved. Look at Ame and Bae and how they've handled it. I'm just here to watch her menhera breakdowns and laugh, because that's the only part about her that's entertaining.
>t.anon who watched her for like a month after debut and then fucked off after realizing all her non-collabs are boring as shit

>>34251687
OP is a gay baiter. Beware.

>nothingburger
Deadnigger vocabulary aside, they exposed Kronii for what she is, which is a net positive.

>forced a nothingburger
She wouldn't be a mess if it was one.

>>34252135
The same dumbasses who complained are still around watching her streams and you cry about gaslighting? None of this would have happened if everyone just kept their mouths shut.

>>34252622
>just consume content, bro
>don’t think, only consume
Ironically, that’s the exact audience HoloEN as a whole wants - don’t criticize, just tell the whores want they want to hear and give them the green light for decisions they’ve already made.

>>34252769
Yeah it's too bad they're all still consuming at the end the day then, huh?

>>34252769
I kinda want to see where the sandwich arc goes so yeah. I'll enable her for content.

>>34252769
>whores
You were never a Kronie so stop pretending like you had any stake in this.

>>34252769
Well, the audience they claim to want is one who never criticizes and just chooses to watch or not based on the content.
This is a uniquely Kronii problem. I watched her for the first month or two after she came out, and I can tell you that she had three things going for her: her voices, her Minecraft, and her collabs with other Holomembers.
She got menhera about the first two things and stopped doing them, and she started streaming less and less, which filtered out anybody who wasn't parasocial about her and only liked her content.
As of right now, Kronii's only good for two things--attracting gachis with her menhera ramblings about depression and being kind of fun to watch during collabs. Her solo content is garbage now, and if I want to see her in collabs, why can't I just watch her collab partners, all of whom are also more fun than her to watch during solo streams?

>>34252246
For me the dumbest thing she ever said was the bit of "Idol culture is a thing".
Like, fuck not even 90% of this board understand well what an Idol should be, but most of the hololive talents do consider themselves Idols, the roots of the company is there.

>>34253857
Literally a lot of the EN girls described themselves as an idol on one occasion or another. Kronii really tripped up on that one.

>>34251687
Go back to Twitter you idiot woman. The only reasywhy Kronii sperged out is because she LOST

>>34251687
they left, you just cant tell because she doesnt stream

>>34253051
That's why she should mostly do collabs on her own channel like she did with Vesper. It's her best content so she should be hosting it. If Kronii has 4 collab streams a week, that's 4 streams of hers you would watch. Then the solo streams being boring are not a big deal.

Her becoming a solo streamer who never streams was a bigger issue than any male collabs. She should be aiming for more than gachis.

>>34252135
Gabe still stuck around to watch the Psychiatric stream and even live tweeted along with it as well as watched the worms collab.

>>34254162
>muh twatter
Shut the fuck up. If everyone just ignored the collab it wouldn't have been an issue and Kronii wouldn't have gone full retard over it. The fact that longtime members are so two-faced about this whole situation just goes to show that none of them had any principles.

>>34254037
Jokingly though. No one in hololive besides Sora call themselves an idol with a straight face. They're all just conedians or plain streamers. Even the ones that sing

>>34254223
Except the one schizo who started all this was caught watching Kronii's Worms collab, doing the exact thing he said he wouldn't.

Chat reflects the streamer. Kronii took the ouroboros theme too seriously and started eating her own ass.
Now no matter how much Kronii wants to she can't get her mouth off the plunger. The little snake is starting to worry.
The reason I say this is there used to be a Subway shitpost with a bunch of animal people and I think Kronii is nudging us to a recreation of that.
Why? I'm not sure but I do know that Fauna did a cow role play and Kronii can't handle dairy.
I hope the Kronii that was making a meat puppet out of Kronii is doing okay. They're such a fun fan base.

>>34251687
None of her members told her to not collab or that they were leaving. They said, >I don't like it and I am going to skip it
She was the retard that thought all of this was because of shipping, say >Don't ship me whit my co-workers
She got clipped, people started calling her out on cashing because Mumei x Kronii, she then made a stupid twitt saying >Girl x girl is ok
People called her out as a sexist, she proceed to say stupid shit about Idol culture. She took a break because of the drama, came back, and fuck everything up again.

>>34254375
>Kronii took the ouroboros theme too seriously and started eating her own ass.
I'd eat that ass

>>34251687
Who said none of them left? Her last collab stream with Mumei did worst then her normal videos… and that’s who people shipped her with, that should have been free views… but that audience is completely gone because she said shipping people was weird

>>34254388
>They said, >I don't like it and I am going to skip it
And they couldn't even do that. Chat really does reflect the streamer.

>>34254482
I don't watch them

>>34251687
Holy cope, she was the one who made it into such a big deal
just look at Ame, she certainly didn't handle this perfectly but she's miles ahead of Kronii

>>34254463
>Who said none of them left?
The same longtime members who wrote long posts complaining to her are all unironically still watching her streams and tweeting about her on the daily. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they're still around.

>>34254240
Admittedly, that would help, but being the one people only visit to watch collabs for is probably not a great situation too. I’m obviously not the majority opinion, but after debut I quickly realized I didn’t really find her solo streams interesting and only really cared when she collabed with Mumei. That’s what made it so easy to drop her when I got bored.
Hosting more collabs on her own channel would only be a solution if she could then reorient her own solo content to be less boring as well.

>>34254463
Kromeii has been a dead ship for awhile. She has always had way more chemistry with Irys, Reine, and Ina.

>>34254388
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/32015083/#q32021587

>>34254722
I wish she'd play less baby games like pokemon and slime rancher.

>>34254838
She said she doesn't like high intensity games. For example, she sounded completely confused and disoriented playing Overwatch with the others.
>WHY IS EVERYTHING SO CHAOTIC

>>34254775
>>34254775
holy schizophrenia

>>34251687
You know what to do next, Kronii. It's time to graduate.

mm

>>34252622
>>34254711
Numbers, proofs, evidence for your claims? None. That's right you made it up.

Kronii is non-binary, stupid niggers.

>>34255364
Anyone who's actually a regular on her streams knows which longtime members are still around. I'm not spoonfeeding your sorry ass just because you begged for it like a dog.

Just watch people who care about you instead. Elira constantly expresses her love of chat. Why watch someone who will never appreciate you?

>>34254775
>gonna drop a really hot take
kronigger don't miss

I find it funny that her most annoying members are the only ones that are truly ass blasted. If they fucked off her streams would unironically be better.

>>34254263
how many nigger cocks are inside your anus right now tranny faggot

>>34255514
he struck a homerun alright, but what he got when ran his lap back to home plate was not what he wanted lol

>>34255583
Nice projection but I don't want to hear about your Friday nights.

>>34255521
I always said that Gabe, Rice, and anyone of their ilk needed to fucking go.

>>34251687
They made questions and also brought the fact that she lied and she lost her shit. Cover themselves went around giving DMC's to the channels that uploaded the clip where she lied. It was even edit out of her VOD too.

>>34255743
>It was even edit out of her VOD too.
Wait really? First time I heard of this.

>>34255743
>>34255859
it was an unarchived member stream

>>34255743
>editted out of her VOD
No you fucking retard, they were copyright striking an unarchived member stream regarding her broken promises, it was never on the campfire stream VOD

>>34251687
What, you thought everyone who left was gonna make a big fucking announcement that they're leaving? You know they can just leave silently, right?

>>34255984
I thought there was a whole a different stream altogether by how that anon was talking. I did watch the unarchived member stream live at the time.

>>34255743
>>34256130
There is none, this idiot is just fucking lying and an example of what happens when you fall for rrats, only read threads, aren't membered, and are potentially ESL. Nothing against ESLs but the amount of painfully obvious ESL posts regurgitating rotting rrats is ridiculous

I was a day 1 Kronie and I left.

>>34256283
>t. MidKnight

>>34256268
No, it is true that clips of her member content making the promises were Devil May Cried. That’s likely due to the fact that they were member content, rather than the fact that she is a lying bitch, though.

>>34256353
This, they were struck for being paywall content, not for damage control purposes. But it definitely got Kronii's manager to notice and probably threw a stink higher up the chain.

>>34256283
I said LEFT, I cut ties completely not even in those dumpster fires infinity calls threads. MidKnight is still watching Kronii occasionally iirc. I haven't watched her or been in Infinity since she came back.

>>34255480
it doesnt even have to be that far, simple respect is fine too

>>34251687
>None of the Kronies ever left
Rumao.

>>34251687
You use the worth nothingburger so anything that comes out of your mouth is coated in a heavy layer of faggot.

>>34257479
>worth
Take the cock out of your mouth so you can speak clearly

>>34251687
I mean, I am one of the day one members who didn't want her to collab with males either but I haven't left and never said I would. What is done is done. I don't think any of us actually said we would leave, actually. The only one who left was Gabe and that was only because he got banned, but who knows if it is even permanent.

>>34257573
>The only one who left was Gabe
He's still watching streams, making memes and responding to her on twitter. He just got banned on youtube but that clearly didn't change a thing for him.

>>34251687
Honestly, any anon that didn't jump ship after her story about filming someone at wallmart gets what they deserve.

>>34254775
Based Gabe. I miss this dude like you wouldn't believe.

>Idol culture is a thing
I dislike her way of handling this for this reason and this reason alone. Don't talk like a fucking twitter immigrant about this sort of thing. I don't get it, the people who want anything related to idols removed don't want to change hololive, they want to end it. Twitter well wishers and people who complain about everything being problematic don't want a changed hololive, they want a dead one. They are not on Mori's or Kronii's side, they'd much rather Mori and Kronii lose their means to make content. Why be the mouthpiece of people who wish to see your destruction?

>>34254775
didnt that members only comment get like 500 members likes?

>>34257716
story?

Kronii is a fuckin retard. Should have taken a page from that other retard Ame and given up. Now she's sacrificing future gain for next reason

>>34254775
KEK, this dumbass got banned btw

>>34258005
It wasn't members only.
It was on her public schedule, when Kronii has explicitly said to keep it to member's only.
That was the first sign that Kronii's "spreadsheet" were all entitled crybabies.

>>34257962
She wasn't being a mouthpiece, she was explaining to people who couldn't read why she didn't want her and the males to be shipped. Idol culture is a thing, I don't see how stating that is controversial. The anti-idol culture people would be mad regardless.

>>34255743
Holy shit what a bitch. At least Mori owned up to her lean shit and apologized for being wrong.

>>34258159
>Idol culture is a thing
What she is saying is idol culture isn't idol culture. It's chucklefuck unicorns, vtuber antis, and permanently outraged tourists having their fill of drama. Idols have nothing to do with it.

>>34251687
Kind of impossible to say this because out of some Gabe and like two others most of the people who agreed with them were either anons or did not say anything.
With that one guy who gifted 200 memembers or something during the Vesper collab it is impossible to tell who left and just got replaced or not.
Either no one left, or multiple people left, and of those people might not of left because of male collabs but because of the drama. I haven't watched a stream since the unarchived members stream. I honestly don't care about the male collabs but I unmembered because she lies too much for me and I dislike male collab beggars on principle.

>>34255464
lmao if everything's fine why are you barking in here?

>>34257823
No one thinks you are based anymore Gabe

>>34251687
I like the menhera, she broke my grampire's sanity and now he's more unhinged as a result. What are some of her best videos?

>>34258767
You already watched it

Can I just ask something. What in the hell has this gaslighting about "Unicorns don't know real Idols! They collab with males all the time!"
No they fucking don't, you could get fired if enough people even think you're in a relationship with a guy.
Any form of interaction with males is usually a interview or commercial, they don't just collab and talk casually multiple times a week/month like half the girls do.
People like to bring up Sora and Fubuki but ignore both that most of that is commercials or one off big collab/3d live weeks to months apart.

>>34254301
Pekora considers her self an idol so does Botan

>>34254301
I can't reply to this post without tripping the spam filter. I just wanted to call you a redditor. What the fuck.

>>34258159
The problem isn’t that she said idol culture is a thing, all matter of fact. The problem is that she implied it was “unfortunately a thing” because it demanded double standards, whether or not what she discussed as being unfortunate was truly a part of idol culture.
She at the very least mishandled how she addressed it (a common theme), and at worst confirmed that she despises something that made her corporation successful through the hard work and dedication of her idol senpais. Either way, she is retarded as fuck.

>>34259008
Oh hey, it worked.

>>34257962
>>34258159
Which was her being fucking retarded because it was never a shipping issue and she kept being a fucking retard trying to explain, justify, walk back her statements because she didn't understand the issue at all and still thought she can take care of the problem despite being told by management to not engage. The fact when she came back from her break and was somehow able to identify and tackle the real issue this time, however scripted it was, means she was explained in (autistic) detail (probably by Mori) what the actual problem was, why people were angry, and her options going forward.

This was never Kronii trying to push some fucking twitter agenda, she stupidly tripped and fell into a hole and thought she knew how to get out of it and found out the hard way.

>>34259259
>Which was her being fucking retarded because it was never a shipping issue and she kept being a fucking retard trying to explain, justify, walk back her statements because she didn't understand the issue at all
This. It was clear that she was completely clueless when she revealed that she hadn't even checked her community post where all the drama was spilling from.

>>34259041
Yea. I don't get the mentality of people who shit where they eat or bother eating what they hate. It is fine to hate 3D lives and the wonderful pageantry of Hololive but you probably shouldn't join the company if you don't like it.

>>34258057
https://youtu.be/cbIlK61jWQw?t=153

>>34251687
Woman moment. She never wrong. Everyone else is. OP is a dumbass for believing it

>>34251687
This snake deserves it.

>>34254775
And he get bullied anyway. No wonder he became furious

>>34259659
Oh shit I remember this. You can even hear Gura genuinely cringing in her voice.

>>34259659
Good on Kronii for being an upstanding citizen and recording evidence for the shoplifters criminal trial while the establishment owner was probably too busy calling the police.

>>34256283
Same. Day 1 Kronie, watched every stream, even Hollow Knight #35664487 where you can feel her boredom through the screen as she plays yet another long, tedious game she's already beaten multiple times. Sent in the occasional green supa, member, bought all her merch, etc. And now I can't stand her. Not for the tempus crap, which I didn't like but was willing to just skip. But for revealing what a lying, hateful, spiteful bitch she was all along. She actively loathes her fans, and can't seem to stop showing it now. She's not worth another dollar or view from me.

>>34260759
Based

Man. Unicorns are fucked up.

>>34260759
This. It wasn't even the collab that did it for me, it was her constant flip-flopping and manipulation.

This is so stupid... All of them in their lore are maidens and have been keeping that even by interacting with males... talking with a guy doesnt mean anything inpure thats just the desperate, mentaly insecure and incel mentality... also all this culture contradicts itself... chat consist almost on its entirety of males they arent any exepcion, their fine with her flirting with random sc, their fine with her saying Yabe stuff and even they are fine looking at her nude fanart that sometimes SHE suggest and shes still a maiden no problems... their even fine with the girl acting like a lesbian around other talents thats safe too even if she have sex with a girl i guess even that keeps her maiden status somehow but talking with a coworker???? Oh NO WHAT A WHORE... this shows only the hipocrisy of this culture but we cant expect any more common sense from these men... i cant even expect a good comeback from them i can only see coming a bunch of silly reused insults.

>>34261090
ESL

>>34261140
Yeah its my third langue so youre wrong and have a problem? I belive im posting in 4chan not in the real language academy. Even english not being my native language i can understand even with grammar errors of my native, second and english language... guess some didnt study enough...

>>34251687
1 gift card for you

>>34261090
Have a (You), sport. The world needs more mentally retarded people like you spouting off your inane and practically incomprehensible nonsense. Good to represent the merits of diversity, you know?

>>34254775
This seems fair, even if you don't agree with it.
I wonder how many of the girls joined Hololive without understanding the very basics of-
>Streamer Culture (parasocials)
>Weeb Culture (hardcore horny posters)
>Idol Culture (hardcore parasocials)
-and expected to get something different?

>>34261090
Again I must ask you to stop ending every sentence with an ellipsis.

>>34261888
While that take was pretty reasonable and a potential ending point to the drama (that obviously wasn't taken), it became very obvious he was really just beating around the bush with what he really wanted. dare I say, may Allah forgive me, typical nice guy behavior cringe

>>34262014
>He fell for his act
roru

>>34262014
It should be mandatory to post this with his first thesis post. Truly an interesting case study on the beta simp mind.

>>34251687

>>34262219
done

>>34254254
No shot. He actually improved himself or did he become a cuck?

>>34262701
Add these while you're at it
>>33530347
>>33532311
He never sent those sc's before getting banned

>>34262701
Doing Matsuri’s work, anon.

>>34262762
cucked
>>34262780
>>33532311
>I will continue to spam freechat. I will continue to spam her chat. I will continue complaining whenever there's a homo collab on her schedules. She will never be rid of me.
Baldy has been super quiet outside of his twitter account and even then he just retweets other kronies, porn, and this shit

>>34261871
Yup just silly insults and no good comeback thats what i expected. Thank you for confirming my theory.

>>34259659
This story was funny as hell, I don't know what that anon is talking about lmao

>>34263511
They like to create drama hoping nobody knows the context nothing else.

>>34263480
Listen up sport, I like your bait. On the off chance that you aren’t baiting, I’ll give you some free advice.
You want an honest response? Quit being a disingenuous retard. You’ve got your language comprehension working against you, and I understand it may be hard to follow everything that is going on, but it only takes a third grade level of English comprehension to understand that the arguments you are making are riddled with fallacies and buzz words. A post like that deserves nothing but mockery.
And that’s what I’m here for; to laugh at retards like (You).

>>34255521
>her streams would unironically be better.
Even if they did she would still be a boring unfunny menhera, streams would still fucking stink. Can’t wait for more
>SUBWAY DUDE LMAO

>>34263896
Yeah how original. All bark no substance. Try again.

>>34264092
Try what, sport? Defending a position I don’t personally hold? It’s so much easier just to point and laugh.

>>34254838
She does but she doesn't stream them.

>>34255480
Wait until Elira goes off her schizo meds.

>>34261439
You’re that Czech retard from the other kronii whiteknight threads aren’t you?

>>34264175
Well then thats all you had it seems how dissapointing. Expected more for a second there. Still shallow insults to avoid the argument, ill give you a point on the condesending attempt you made there though but its so forced it gives you away. Well i dont know what i was expecting. Next.

>>34255715
Rice isn't going anywhere and Minutemaid is just as bad as him now.

>>34264413
Czech? I thought he was Indian with how hard he was trying to redeem gift cards. Well, I guess the Czechs have it pretty shit, too.

>None of them left
Speak for yourself fag, ive not renewed my membership and haven't watch a Kronii stream since her return from the "break" she had. Not everyone is like Gabe who'll make a big deal about how upset they are and post about why they are leaving.
Also if your wondering about the Mumei membership, that was just a gifted membership I got during one of her streams.

>>34264508
Yea its the same dogshit grammatical and spelling errors in all his posts and when people shit on him for it he copes with
>muh 3 languages
Allegedly its czech, english and german, probably all just as poor as his english.

more Gabe post Kronii's tweet saying she would do what she wants

>>34264689
The overuse of ellipses is pretty distinct. Thanks for the info, anon. I’ll laugh harder the next time I see his posts.

Holy shit unicorns being retards again? What's new?

there we go, someone else can expand the image with the new material

>>34264920
Laugh at him for being from Pilsen, that Czech pile of shit

>>34263028
namefags are the worst.

>>34252186
well if they shut their mouths then nothing about normal streams would have changed

>>34263028
That's how Christina Grimmie got #grimmie'd too.
They'll just stalk you forever lmao goodluck.

>>34254301
nobody in hololive is an idol if we go by the propper definition

>>34265314
Was it worth it Gabriel? Do you sleep better or worse now?

>>34266756
He still seems to be having fun on his twitter

>>34263028
What the fuck this atrocity? Why do kroniies even have namefags in the first place? I doubted the kissing in pre-chat was true when I first heard about it but now it makes so much more sense

>>34266756
>First comment
>Has BANNED in his name
He fucking loves it

>>34267294
>Do you need counselling
he may be having fun but the thing is living rent free kek

Kronies were always the craziest.
They have a fucking spreadsheet.

>>34270252
they are at least not that gura spreadsheet schizo from a year ago

>>34261888
There is no fucking way that every vtubing agency doesn't do a whole briefing on what not to talk about, and what not to do on stream, how not to dox yourself, etc.

>>34252186
That's their mentality