/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>34,357: Subaru (Hololive)
>32,498: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,110: Salome (Nijisanji)
>23,041: Ayame (Hololive)
>18,957: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,880: Mumei (Hololive)
>15,586: Ina (Hololive)
>15,220: Shion (Hololive)
>14,599: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>14,446: Mio (Hololive)
>13,829: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,639: GatchmanV (Indie)
>13,580: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,241: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,873: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,723: Magni (Holostars)
>10,411: Luna (Hololive)
>10,035: Iroha (Hololive)

>>34161443
/news/ roundup for 27-09-2022
>>34116806
Recent clip numbers
>>34107568
>>34107593
>>34107953
>>34107999

/#/ is declining

>>34161577
i see the 4pm and the 5pm slots are still trash

>>34161607
They're worse now than they were during summer because school has started, so only real degens or weirdos with wacky schedules will be able to watch right now in Japan.

>>34161471
This pathetic tally still somehow looks good compared to the shit we have today rn

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

Apparently there were 850 viewers for Axel member's karaoke. He read the number out loud from his end.

>>34161671
Numberrot is taking hold, let the lower numbers cleanse it from your soul.

Everything is declining. Numbers are down across the board in every major company, interest is waning. In late 2023-early 2024 10k+ streams will be a rarity and major talents have begun leaving for greener pastures in other endeavors.

>>34161675
$1400 a month takehome after cuts, minimum of course because not all members were present.

>>34161728
>google trends

>>34161728
>trending topic

>Number are so bad Salome pathetic number are actually on the top of the tally now

>>34161728
Vtubing is still in the WWF vs WCW era. It will take much longer for it to actually go that low.

>>34161728
Meanwhile Anycolor releases EN wave 24 who debut to 300k people before falling to 2views in a week as they scramble with all 253 genmates for a slice of the reclining pie.

>>34161757
We already know he has over 1k solely from his membership opening stream. 850 is a nice number though I doubt you ever get more than 25% of your members to watch a stream live

>>34161577
Moona getting mediocre numbers for a karaoke
Listening to her, I can see why tho - her voice is hoarse and she's having trouble keeping pitch
Did she fuck up her voice in JP or something?

>>34161853
Lots of recordings? They've been busy from what we know.

>>34161853
Wouldn't be shocked if she used the opportunity to do a lot of recording while she was there.

>>34161853
Her voice has always been like this. She isn't the best singer outside of belting really hard notes.

>>34161853
The time slot is pretty bad. People are used to night MoonaUtau and this one held on the afternoon. Also she isn't really suited to JP songs pitch, her control isn't that amazing anyway. Not to mention her craving for spicy food probably fucked up her throat anyway.

>>34161853
She's not very good.

>PekoMoon both fucking up their throat

>>34162045
I fucking knew it, they've been 69 cunt sucking each other

>>34162045
Sorry, I went a little hard on them

>>34162132
Impossible. Number bunny would have streamed that for the CCV alone.

>>34161853
The fucking karaoke setup she's currently using in japan is fucking awful that's why

https://youtu.be/-SHeFziVeI4
Shirayuri Lily, from Vivid, is beating some of the NijiEN girls.

>>34162195
I wish, I'd cum just from the announcement alone and would've immediately booked a leave for that day just to watch that

>>34162228
There's a lot of Japanese mid-tier corpos that can beat 1k on occasion, it's not really notable. It's when an EN vtuber like say Pippa is able to do it that it becomes interesting.

SHINOVE I FUCKING KNEEL

>>34162228
I wish she graduates and join Holo.

KRONII RECLINE WATCH 2022

We finally have more data after Kronii tried to hide from the consequences of her own actions. The recline is juicy here with a mere 5,922 average viewership. This is WELL below her average CCV of 7,577 from January to August this year. Even worse the Kronester couldn't even hit a measly 8k peak!

Without collabs it looks like the damage is even worse than we thought originally. Stay tuned.

>>34162505
Her voice is kinda odd

Where’s the guy who posts the average means and medians per streamer?

>>34162544
i keep asking about median anon but no one replies
i think he died

>>34162523
Perfect for Holo then. She also speaks fluent English

>>34162486
shinove is so fuckin cool man

why did we end up with omegay

I really want to see a list of 30k+ stream for hololive this year.

>>34162544
That handsome and manly lad is likely waiting the two days for the end of the month

>>34162486
Yagoo's left hand is too powerful

>>34162486
literally who is this, a random hag?

>>34162507
anon, any regular here would know why she reclined, it's the same reason as ame unfortunately. These girls doesn't know shit about playing buff games. It's like when ame played donkey kong, mario 64 platform and other platformers and as a former teamate and numberfag, watching her recline fills me with pain. Kronii is the same with her game choices. For Kiara, Mori, Ame, Kronii. It's literally just game/stream choices.

>>34162588
Stop larping median poster

>>34162045
Pussy juice indeed can fuck one's throat if too much is consumed. Also add to the fact that Moona could look into any Holomember's eyes no problemo, but couldn't do so with Pekora. If they haven't fucked and done lesbian scissoring and whatnot, then I don't know what the fuck happened.

>>34162593
Ueda reina aka ueshama, a voice actress and roberu’s oshi

>>34162486
>>34162577
>>34162590
I say Shinove must be yakuza, there is no explanation for the fact he is never denied any request, be it permissions, sponsorships or cameos

>>34162668
wow, i don't know any of these

>Nodoka also play FGO
Fucking national kusoge wtf. FGO maintenance is trending on Japan Twitter btw

>>34162690
Come on, the one from Demon Slayer…

>>34162692
>Fucking national kusoge
anon please, that has been horse pussy for a while

how do we save her /vt

>>34162675
He is or was something more scary if you believe some of the things people say about him

>>34162690
Not even the whore from Genshink impact?

>>34162668
I recognize Aloe, Kanao, and Poca

>>34162627
>It's just the game choice bro
You know what's really scary anon? Kronii still has the drama buff. Once the trannies leave she's going to be Mel tier. Kronii used to be one of the few ENs who could get 20k on buff content. No longer. She's slumming with with Mori now.

>>34162733
For once Uma is not really that much of a kusoge

>>34162719
haven't watched it yet, when the manga came out at the time before the anime i keep hearing it was generic as fuck so i skipped it and the only anime i've watched lately is rewatching shit from the 90s

>>34162668
Myanee, also 2 years of not watching anime made me forgot the voices of these VA.

>>34161568
Hey man..

JP please... safe IRyS... anyone... Watame onegai...

>>34162741
Unironically? Tell Aia to make more shorts of her speaking in Vietnamese

>>34162223
They are still in japan?

>>34162668
So side characters tier huh

So the green whore is streaming Genshit on Jewtube in a few minutes? She might harass yet another player with her retardation.

>>34162819
Don't come to /#/ tomorrow.

>>34162765
Truth be told, it might not be just the “triple 180 somersault” that done Kronii in.
The whole EN field is in a drought of buff content. The last time any game had potential to incline any of the girls to 10k+ was Holocure when first released and before that, Elden Ring (if the girl played it straight like Mori, and not like a retard like Ame).
Other than that only Minecraft used to buff any and all of the girls but they’re too dumb to take proper care of it so it’s dead now.

Without a collective buff they all have to scramble to find some niche buff, like RatGirl and mobile games but that’s a short term buff and the audience gets easily tired (as they already did).

>>34162855
If those numbers are low, she might have a breakdown

looks like no lazulight 3d but i assume some of the other en events will still go on like whatever petra was talking about

>>34162675
He was an ex detective/cop who was jaded by all the corruption within the system and decided to quite. Yagoo picked him up from some pachinko parlor and he can become someone who help others to realize their dreams

>>34162507
every ENs reclined right now
even ina rarely getting 10k nowadays

>>34162690
uncultured

>>34162668
Hey she voices my suicidal gacha wife!

>>34162896
Or they could just stream with live2D in Nijifes while at home

>>34162789
It’s not generic as fuck, but it being shonen lacks depth for the most part.
It is a very enjoyable show if you can get past the “ULTRA LOUD HAM” from certain characters (the boar dude and the yellow nigger) which I’m sure are more enjoyable in written form than in anime form.

If for no other reason, it’s worth watching it for the spider mom episode, the red light district arc and the movie, one of the best anime movies I’ve seen since ever, but which depends on the series being watched first.

>>34162869
nta, what's with tomorrow?

>>34162886
>if the girl played it straight like Mori
Anon, Mori dragged ER over 5 months, did 20 episodes and only 6 of her ER stream broke 10K, with some going as low as 5K

>>34162896
That Selen tweet probably meant about pre-record stuffs

>>34162745
qrd?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0kPTpK1YFc
grim waiting numbers

>>34162925
Maybe it was a mistake to water down their brand by becoming NijiEN lite?

>>34162934
You tell them to get in the frame

>>34162507
Every EN reclined retard. Mumei couldn't even get 10k nowadays except for unarchived Karaoke

>>34162869

>>34162832
She needs to do more collabs with JP instead of EN and have better timeslots

>>34162975
holoen was a mistake in the first place

>>34162957
Her first series with that game was solid and got her a very good audience too, she’s just dumb to have gotten herself busy right when it looked like she was making a comeback on the streaming side.

>>34162896
No refund!

>>34162989
She just said she will, in Splatoon

>>34162978
Homos actually, unironically killed EN. Based.

>>34162964
shouldn't have ghosted her audience for months to moonlight as a twitchtuber

>>34162849
Typhoon.
God is a holofag and he wanted Pekomoon offcollab before they left.

>>34162789
Yes the manga is a fucking dumpsterfire Ufotable singlehandedly save Demon Slayer mangaka career

>>34162978
Well except for gura, she stagnated/stabled

>>34162891
1.2k at the waiting at 0min remaining certainly doesn't indicate it to be a good stream for her number wise kek.

>>34163015
Gotta pay for the giftcards somehow, Riku is just that good of a businessman

>>34162989
I'll watch Irys exclusively if she becomes a kind of bridge to JP and offers streams with the better JP talents but translates so EOPs can enjoy them. Could be a very powerful niche especially when those retards figure out how much better JP is in terms of content

>>34162849
Yup, they still have some stuff to do there

>>34163034
It's the Typhoon the reason why NijiEN is not in Japan. Talk about two birds with one storm

>>34163050
Nah, Kiara also stagnated / stabilized. It’s just that it is at a low point

>>34163023
Another 3K stream, exactly what she need

>>34163034
Will it actually happened tho?

>>34162954
I will fix the nijisanji internet bullies

>>34163033
>ghosted her audience
It's the same audience watching her on Twitch, anon. Are you retarded? It's an open secret especially when she's accidentally shown Nazuna assets on Mike twice
I suppose you didn't read the fanbox post she put out on the day of the trailer?

>>34162978
She got pretty close

>>34163066
That is both funny and makes me sad. Someone should record it

>>34163034
I'm not even sure anymore since it seems they want to extend the stay, just from Risu's last stream or the previous one she mentioned that management wants for her to do a solo live concert and has mentioned that she'll take it as long as they support her stay/lodging, I'm not sure if they can execute that while she's in ID as she needs to do her singing and dancing reps and if she has guests then that would be much harder to do in ID

>>34163049
In a strange twist for a shonen manger it was actually too short. He had too many good characters and very few of them got a chance to shine before they all got mashed into the last arc

>>34163073
Kiara already tried that, but "Kiara" so IRyS might have a better luck with that. Actually that's something she was supposed to do from the start.

>>34163140
>he

Gura's liking fanarts at this hour, is something happening?

>>34163118
In april Mumei could get at least 20-22k with this.
In June she could get at least 16k with this stream

>>34163073
It's like what Kiara was before while she was staying in JP, yeah I would support her if she did it that way, Kiara did it less after she moved away from JP but Irys has a better shot at it

>>34161471
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order
22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34.966 - 3D debut
23) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 67.731 - The Strange Tales of Nijisanji
24) Mito (Nijisanji) - 51.019 - Birthday gyakutotsu
25) Subaru (Hololive) - 52.721 - Persona 4 Golden
26) Aqua (Hololive) - 29.303 - New hairstyle reveal
27) Subaru (Hololive) - 34.357 - Otakatsu Exhibition

>PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive
5x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Miko, Subaru
2x: Ayame, Marine, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Mito Moona, Naru, Sora, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
172x: Hololive
87x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
17x: Aqua, Miko
16x: Kuzuha, Salome
12x: Subaru
11x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naru, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>34163116
japanese people don't use twitch

>>34163162
Kiara never translated her collab partner. From the start she said it was too annoying so she wouldn't do it. Chickens history in Hololive is a long list of things she did to sabotage herself.

>>34163184
Insomnia?

>>34163184
she's in japan. been there for a month now

>>34163184
GOOBERS IS IN FUCKING JAPAN

>>34163073
That will require IRyS to have connection to the better JPs first. So far she only have connection to fucking Watame and the elite JP crew literally like Anya more than IRyS

>>34163162
>>34163190
If it didn't work for Kiara at the time when EN interest in HoloJP was at its peak it isn't going to work now when audiences have a plethora of English options, even if the execution is better. Those types of streams are always halfway houses that give a worse experience in both languages.

>>34163073
Irys should try to get close with OKFAMS. Subaru, korone and mio are perfect collab partners to irys

>>34163215
>Kiara never translated her collab partner.
If she did, it would be retarded. It's awful for your collab partner to just sit there and wait for you to translate after every single sentence.

>>34163184
She pissed the bed once again. But this time it's in a hotel with a JP Holomember. Noel surely.

>>34163116
>accidentally

>>34163184
EN 3

>>34163248
https://youtu.be/K1wStJxm4F0
This crew is perfect for her

> Twitch emojis are the first thing on Pomu's mind when she hears the term "memes".
I kinda feel bad for Mito, there's SO many interesting memes in EN culture, but this is the kind of shit she gets...

>>34163209
She was hoping her fanbase would follow her over rather than be autistic
She wants to stream on YouTube as Nazuna but "something" is stopping her. Since then, she's been pushing a lot more Mike content

>>34163258
If noel is there, so is Flare.

If Risu holds a sold-out Sololive, would that make her the most successful ID vtuber in Japan?
No ID agency can even get what HoloID1 is having right now.

>>34163243
>If it didn't work for Kiara at the time when EN interest in HoloJP
Heh, her holoJP collab back then had great CCV, and Holotalk is still more succesful than IRyS entire career, it's just stupid that she dropped all of it.

>>34163285
so much for talent freedom

>>34163184
Probs fucked up sleep schedule from more meetings with JP management.

>>34163116
>It's the same audience watching her on Twitch, anon
It's only part of the same audience, because a significant amount don't want to watch her on twitch or don't even know.

>>34163291
You mean the most successful ID YOUTUBER

>>34163209
False. FPS JP scene is pretty good on Twitch, but besides that it's pretty anemic

>>34163240
i still wondering why the elite and popular JP girls like ID girls more than EN girl?
peko likes moona, shuba likes moona & reine, korone likes risu, sora like iofi, miko like kaela, and so on.
what did ID girls have that EN girls don't?
hell it doenst have to be popular jp girls i feel a lot of JP girls get along well with ID girls better than EN

>>34163132
where the fuck are they even staying? Did Cover rent them some place for long term stay or smth?

>>34163292
why would it be in Japan? Just make a sololive in ID since it's much cheaper

>>34163303
50% chance it's Cover causing the issue
The other 50% is that it's her VShojo contract.

>>34163243
Kiara never even tried.
>If it didn't work for Kiara when Kiara deliberately chose NOT to include her EN audience in those collabs how could it work for Irys?
Easy, by not being a stubborn autistic retard like Kiara is.

>>34163243
She can do something out of it, she has the means to do so and the tools for it, all she has to do is put in effort and she can make an audience out of it, if she ever had the stamina of Koyo she can do an EN by morning and JP in the evening

>>34163338
The concept doesn't work

so, is lazulight really in Japan or not? Elira doesn't have a period of rest in between streams and streamed every day for the past week except for the 26th.

>>34163073
The “Bridge to JP” strategy has literally never worked. Kiara tried it, Axel was clearly intended as it. Why do people think this is somehow a good plan?

>>34162690
Yeah I don't recognize any...but then again I haven't watched any anime since 2000s

>>34163357
She doesn't have the stamina or work ethic

>>34163338
A funny stream where you cut the tempo every exchange to translate is never going to work, anon.

>>34163375
>Kiara tried it
No, she didn't. Kiara tried becoming a pseudo JP, aka the Petra Gurin strategy.

>>34163243
Chicken quite literally have zero charisma for this, IRyS other hand have bigger charisma and she's quite dorky so she's already better fit for this kind of thing.

>>34163243
IRyStocrats are a bit retarded.

>>34163327
I don’t have an explanation, but for some reason it just…makes sense.

>>34163337
She got fired. She is free from cover

>>34163327
They can speak Japanese and basically grow up in Asian household just like the JPs
EN are too different both culture and mentality-wise, someone with Kiara personality are considered rude sometime in Asian culture

>>34163015
Picrel? Because those are some rdkdwarf purportions.

>>34163337
this retarded timeloop again

>>34163327
Streaming in the same timezone as the JP girls while not having an abrasive personality (that one is mostly on Kiara). The JPs still think 'calli Kakkoii', so really it comes down to lack of familiarity, which makes it hard for other JPs to get close to some of the ENs. Gura has Shion, Marine and Okayu, so it's not as though it's impossible, but surely being awake and active when the JP girls gives the ID girls far more chances to interact with JP.

>>34163373
Most likely no. Pomu is sad posting.

>>34163373
who?

>>34163327
You say this as though Suisei didn’t list Mori as her oshi and Marine didn’t literally bring Gura and Ina into a unit with her.

>>34163243
>Keeps using Kiara as an example when Anya manages to keep THREE audiences in the loop simultaneously
Pathetic. Watch any of the IDs and you can see them switching between English and Indonesian all the time and doing it seamlessly. It's not fucking hard to explain what's going on in English every 30 seconds or so.

>>34163431
>non-competes disappear if you get fired

Mikeneko 4.8k get
Do any sites track her?

>>34163480
And Anya is one of the worst performing ID, what's your point ?

>>34163327
holoJP recognize and appreciate hard work when they see it

People are doomposting Lazulight 3D while they're preparing to have one of the best 3D debuts ever.

>>34163303
TALENT FREEDOM?! TALENT FREEDOM!!

>>34163480
retard

>>34163480
>three audiences totalling 1k viewers
Oh, I don't doubt IRyS could find that level of "success" with the concept.

>>34163373
if lazulight had already been in Japan already for nijifest, we would've seen pictures of them walking in Japan or eating Japanese food already or an offcollab stream. The other prompt might be the elira, petra, uki, shu collab but why does those 3 be in Japan?

>>34163494
It has nothing to do with her translating herself, she got excellent numbers in Rust because she got a ton of ENs and JPs tuning i

>>34163480
And look at Anyas audience whenever she isn’t playing Rust. Hell look at 5 languages Iofi.

>>34163456
As opposed to all of the non-retarded timeloops in this shithole?

>>34163490
live-ranking use to, but sometimes drops after long absences

>>34163521
Yeah because they're hoping to see someone else

>>34163529
anya looks better than most nijiEN girls

>>34163485
Then she wouldn't be in Vshojo. That breaks her non-competes.

>>34163494
Not while Yopi is around, and Anya has had good numbers with her Rust

Pekora Smash 3 win tonight
Neutral numbers

>>34163529
Kronii level numbers, not too shabby.

>>34163132
>she'll take it as long as they support her stay/lodging,
Ayunjew Risu..

you know, I don't get holoEN or ID at times, why aren't they spamming or getting any sponsorships like nijiEN when their numbers are more or less the same? They arent desperate?

>>34163516
Because they're also having 3D debuts dumbass. Niji is offering anyone who comes a chance for 3D.

>>34163327
Personal rrat but I feel some of the JPs were unironically jealous of the enormous success of Myth during 2020. These whito piggus barely debuted and completely mogged some veterans that worked in the company for years. The ID by comparison are basically their pets and they know they'll never be able to compete.

>>34163566
The non-compete could say "Can't stream on YouTube"
Again, we don't know. All we know is "Nazuna can't stream on YouTube", but the indie Mikeneko can.

>>34163571
its kuzuha day, confirmed 30-45k

>>34163587
They're dumb and think it's more virtuous to get money from their fans rather than corporations

>>34163587
Fauna mention something related to that. She turns them all down, the others are probably similar

>>34163587
Yeah, no ipo means no rush to gain large profits

>>34163562
We’ll if IRyS goal is to do better than Finana then sure but somehow I don’t think that’s what he meant.

>>34163587
>when their numbers are more or less the same
Oh you

PekoSmash Bros it is, then.
https://youtu.be/QVmvFBbUAgM
38, maybe 40k? What are the other contenders?

>>34163605
>The non-compete could say "Can't stream on YouTube"
But she is streaming on YouTube right now

>>34163610
The fuck isKuzuha day? Is Kuzuha doing something big?

>>34163618
No way. Source?

Kek, who wants to bet that when EN goes to Japan, either they'd hang out with the Expat circle, moreso Mori's or they go with the JP girls? What are your thoughts #?

>>34163529
Number rot, Anya used to be 500-800 chuuba. She inclined as fuck since her debut.

>>34163327
Mori have Suisei and Watame with whom she's close
Gura have Shion
Ame have Roboco
Kiara have Nene, Koyori, Subaru, Flare, Watame, Marine
Ina have pretty much all of Gen 5
IRyS have Watame, Korone
Mumei have Towa
Sana had Watame
Bae have Roberu
The rest never made any effort to connect with JP

>>34163635
day looks kinda shit for everyone else so nothing else really on the holo side
i fucking hate splatoon

>>34163618
Some like Gura are just plain uncomfortable with shilling and it shows whenever they're forced to shill for one reason or another

>>34163646
I mean the JP will probably hang out with them, a selected few of them
They wouldn’t be celebrated like celebrities like the ID though

>>34163605
If she can't stream on YouTube, why is she doing it now? Why would a non-compete let her join a rival company? Why would twitch be allowed?

>>34163650
>Ina have pretty much all of Gen 5
Am I back in 2020?

>>34163650
Kronii has Polka though?

>>34163635
Marine got like 45k a while ago
I expect 50k from this as long as nobody (mainly Miko) overlap her

>>34162964
>mogs her twitch peaks within 20 minutes of a guerrilla stream after a months long break
Why is she even in VShojo?

>>34163587
For all the shitting on HoloEN as a group the only corpo with a higher median than them is HoloJP. The gap between HoloEN and NijiEN is the entire size of NijiEN.

>>34163587
Anon?
Have you seen the kinds of sponsors that sponsor shit in English YouTube?
It's all garbage shit like nordVPN and raid shadow legends unless you're BIG big, I'm talking Mr Beast level shit. Otherwise, it's gambling or other stuff that the EN girls probably don't want to have their name associated with.

>>34163681
Ehh Pekora don’t really get that high for Smash, last time she did it it hover around 33-35k

>>34163641
928 = ku zu ha like how 563 is ko ro ne

>>34163646
Shion and Okayu will chain Gura in a sex dungeon for her entire stay

>>34162675
>>34162745
wait is there some rrats about shinove im missing?

talking 2 times doesn't count as close

>>34163646
Probably. EN have spent 2 years deliberately snubbing JP.

>>34163531
>its shit anyway so i am gona make it worse
well fuck you too buddy

>>34163697
Is he doing anything?

>>34163587
The sponsors that nijien get are mostly chinese.

>>34163637
Not as Nazuna. Mikeneko, the indie
Like how Kson could live with Kanata as an indie, but Cover had an issue as soon as she joined VShojo

>>34163704
More like JP is jealous of how much more successful EN has been

>>34163327
Because the ID girls were making efforts to get closer with their senpais. Same shit Mumei and Ame did with towa and RBC. Simple as

>>34163697
no kuzuha on kuzuha day?

>>34163571
Nope kuzuha gold or Subaru gold today.

>>34163587
rrat about nijien ain't getting paid much as compared to hololive is getting closer to the truth. Imagine having the option to not shill something

>>34163751
Never said it’s gold, just say it’s neutral at best

>>34163734
This
Vox > Kuzushit

>>34163716
>>34163743
he's as liable to do some gimmick stream as he is to just boot up overnight Valorant

>>34163751
subaru metal slug is usually sub 20k or 25k

>>34163754
How is it a rrat? Just look at the numbers

>>34163646
>IDs minecraft server mogs EN
>ID has hosted a big summer festival that JPs participated in
>ID is fully integrated with JP now and they all enjoy hanging out together
https://youtu.be/b4FMvuaGvwE

>EN is still autistically standing in the corner and struggle to organize an Among Us game
There are so many signs that the ENs simply don't give a fuck. How are they getting mogged so hard by Indonesians?

This guy is never leaving

>>34161443
sauce on the artist?

>>34163494
That was because of her autism eaely on. Now that she is adapting and actually improving herself, she became a better streamer and can juggle her EOP, ID, and JP audience better than ever

>>34161853
Her singing is always overrated.

>>34163650
Half of these are already dead or forced

>>34163781
Because ID do give a fuck, you’ve basically answered your own question

>>34163734
>Successful
>Entire branch struggling to break 10k except Gura who can't hit 20k
Huh?

>>34163788
>pink not red
What happened

>>34163646
Gura will hang out with IRyS and the JPs because Mori and her friends will just dox her.

>>34163682
she got scammed

>>34163817
He donates multiple times a stream

>>34163605
Proof?

>>34163817
He is losing

>>34163641
It's a Japanese number pun
9-2-8
Kyu-ju-ha (with some liberties taken as 928 is Kyuhyaku ni-ju gachi as a the number nine-hundred and twenty eight)
Number puns are a staple for the Japanese.

>>34163811
>he still think CCV matters in 2022
roru

>>34163754
To be fair most people here have numberot, used to be into a couple Twitch streamers a few years back and a median of 4-7k CCV with a peak of 20k is absolute crazy money. Dude has like 12k memberships (even tho Twitch memberships are kinda wonky with the whole Twitch Prime thing).
But yeah those are pretty average Holo numbers and I know it's more than most doctors make.

>>34163806
>Object permanence.png

5.7k for the green whore while doing gacha.

>>34163833
I literally said "could"
There's only two options: it's either her VShojo contract or something legal from Cover's side. We don't know. I just think it's dumb to completely rule them out when it's obviously one or the other.

>>34163795
SEE? Over the long run, Anya debuffing herself doesn’t matter, because her content improved. Take notes, Kronii.

>>34163862
So it's all in your head? Got it

>>34163850
streaming industry is saturated now leading to decreased earnings from other streamers

>>34163795
She'll be back to her old numbers when she stops playing Rust

>>34163795
So being a "bridge" between branch did nothing for her, she inclined (slightly) because she became a better stream. Thanks for agreeing with me, then.

How do we save holoEN?
Gura is the only one that can get 10k consistently now and even then she struggles to break 20k.
Ina can't get 10k consistently anymore
Fauna can't get 10k unless it's Minecraft
Mumei has reclined and barely hits 10k anymore
The rest are runts

>>34163861
6k now. She'll beat Kronii which will be hilarious

>>34163884
Anon, do you know what a “heuristic” is? Or are you a lawyer who knows Japanese corporate law?

>>34163243
IRyS is way worse than Kiara when collabing with JPs if you are an EOP. I don't know why all the irystocrats are coping so much here

>>34163893
>How do we save holoEN?
Go back in time and assassinate Omega before he creates Tempus

>>34163893
They’ve got to stream more and make better content. And perhaps not feel like they have nothing to do with HoloJP, which it sure as fuck feels like sometimes

>>34163848
Yes it is? Otherwise Vtuber would already stopped the streaming meta

>>34163884
It's all in everyone's head. Unless someone can show contracts it's all bullshit

>>34163893
I don’t care, they will feel the need to save themselves if it actually that bad. It’s none of our concern
We just here to see how much number their effort generate

>>34163521
She gets the same minimum numbers everyone else gets when they're the only ones streaming RUST

>>34163917
That Rust event was extremely strange. Why were all the ENs off doing their own thing while the JPs were having a big war? Gura was the only one who got involved and it's only because Suisei managed to rope her in before the other ENs joined to play cards or whatever the fuck they were doing.

It was a golden opportunity to interact with JP and have some fun? Why are EN so avoidant when it comes to JP? I mean yeah they don't know Japanese but passion english goes a long way.

>>34163893
EN3 and that's it. Surely more consistent stream schedules and the girls giving a shit and try to do some cool events from time to time would help, but that's not gonna happen. EN3 is the only thing that would bring some hype back especially now that there is nothing new to look forward.

>>34163893
Call me crazy, but the lack of Minecraft caused this recline since most of EN audience are MC kiddies

>>34163891
>slightly
It's not slightly anon. She became the strongest on ger gen on buff contents these days when she used to be a 3views.
>Also
Yeah, being a bridge is retarded. If IRyS wants to incline, just cultivate her JP fans better and do collabs to increase their numbers. Go on a date or do something with holoJP to create some story line that could be enjoyed by both fanbases. Dont ever put yourself as the "translator".

>>34163964
EN3 are going to be Tempus accessories and you know it. Stop getting your hopes up for a JP like gen, it's not going to happen.

>>34163957
Its weird how Tempus has more JP collabs than Council

>>34163893
Management needs to get there heads out there asses and release EN3 and get them permissions for the games they want to play no shit they don't feel motivated when they can't play anything fun

>>34163957
Mori was doing retarded Mori things
Ame is an autist and doesn't want to fight
Bae was running around like a headless chicken
Mumei probably would've gotten involved with the jps but couldn't play that day

>>34163988
Tempus has been spamming collabs like crazy in general

>https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1574877988268679212?t=hePcJByOKuepSU3UO51eww&s=19
Based milord trying to transition from a homobaiter to a brotuber. I wonder if the pressure of satisfying fujo zhengs wasn't worth it

>>34163861
7k now for the Pink Cat

>>34163957
I honestly so tired of people complaining about this, just let them do whatever they want, they are not obligated to join the JP

>>34163899
>are you a lawyer who knows Japanese corporate law?
Well, are you? If not then stfu. She is in Vshojo now, all the complaints she has are all directed to either her agency or the platform she stream on.

>>34163988
What JP collabs do council have anyway. Some bae collabs and towamei?

>>34163327
Because JP view EN members as rival ,on the other hand they view ID members as …..pets ?

>>34164012
It’s good that he finally realize that it isn’t worth it, especially for his mental health
Pretending to be gay is the worst thing that can happen to a man

>>34164023
You sound like a shill here. Until we have the facts, it's best to keep an open mind to all of the possibilities
Although if it is legal stuff, we won't be told

>>34163988
Do they? How many have they had since the collab ban was lifted?

>>34164019
If they don't want to be part of Hololive they're more than welcome to fuck off instead of leeching off the brand the JPs built.

>>34164012
fuck off you broke my trust akuma you never be bro anymore

>>34164019
Faggot. This mentality is probably shared by most of EN and is part of the reason why their numbers are trash at this point.

>>34164050
Just ignore them instead of getting mad anon

>>34164048
>You sound like a shill here.
Speaking for yourself. Why you so insist in involving cover?

>>34164019
We’re not their managers, no one here is “letting” or “not letting” them do anything. It’s just really obvious that HoloEN is stagnating creatively, and the tiny closed garden is making things worse.
This is /#/, we talk about creative choices and how they affect numbers. The chuubas can read this shit if they’d like (god knows why they would), but we’re not talking *to* them, so why the fuck not mention how weird it is that HoloEN isn’t trying to get closer to HoloJP? Yeah, that shit’s weird.

The superchats in Mikeneko's stream will probably be lower than usual because people are donating her in game currency to roll the gacha with.
I don't suppose there's any way to track that?

So, King gold?

>>34163985
I'm talking objectively here. EN3 is the only thing that would bring back some hype into HoloEN because what's left otherwise? The offcollab arc happened, every big event is just gonna be something repeated like yet another CREATIVIDAD 3D collab or some concert that fails to attract any new fans. It's either EN3 with some at least decent members or HoloEN keeps bleeding fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-5W7SFHDc
AiTore 11 million get

>>34164080
Because it's either VShojo (current employer) or Cover (former employer) causing the issue because nobody else has this issue. Kson can stream on both platforms

>>34164110
Let’s see what he do yet but special occasion buff will probably net him a gold
That said…I wonder if the Pekora curse will follow him again

>>34164073
Nta but I already started doing that awhile ago. I don’t watch HoloEN streams anymore, and it’s *really* insane how quickly you forget about them once that happens.

>>34164049
2 big collabs, 1 guerilla with kobo, 1 Minecraft run in and like 4 Axel apex

>>34164140
Does it have legs to overtake Q?

>>34162577
Even his 'avatar' design is fucking cool

https://youtu.be/dMIzgF7Wztg

>>34164143
Kson wasn't fired and she waited a year before she joined a corpo. She doesn't matter in this situation

>>34164180
>Enter the stream
>Immediately leave
Devilish hehehe. I like doing this to 2view

Mikeneko mogged Kronii, nice. Gachikoi > Twitter Trannies

>>34163893
>How do we save holoEN?
You can't. There's too many things that end up in them reclining.
Lazyness of some members.
EN management being incompetent shits.
Tempiss existence fracturing the fanbase.
EN members avoing JP members (Rust finale).

There's just too many things that feels like they want to take out Hololive branding from EN.

>>34163817
Obviously Chloe. It's hard to support more than oshi

You will come and watch my concubine's MV in 15min, right anontachi?
https://youtu.be/jqI7zTUcKSg

>>34164203
Is that what that was meant to do? Because that’s what I did. I thought it was a shill or something

>>34162507
Where are you getting 5k from? She only has 1 stream below 7k this month and it's SC reading, the rest are between 7k and 16k.

>>34164244
Average, anon, her slime rancher stream have a 5.9K average CCV

>>34164180
Poor girl

>>34164224
No. Go shill her somewhere else

>>34164244
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/uMSRx5Hkjs8
5,922 average CCV
Using average because it more accurately tracks the trannies dipping out

>>34164294
>>34164276
Does that original picture use true average or are you mixing together two different stats like a tourist retard?

>>34164117
>what's left otherwise?
A proper 3d debut now that Japan is finally opening again

>>34164294
>using a farming simulator to desperately trying to prove your retarded point
rumao
I too love ignoring every kind of context the numbers can have

>>34164290
Based pioneer. I still prefer Nayuta'z current design though.. AZKi's old design on the other hand...

Also, can someone with a Twitter hit Vstats to add the indies?
>Mikeneko
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
>Shylily
https://www.youtube.com/c/Shylily
>Babutaro
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdUpvKm_lTc9w9fy7HdrR9g

Added Filian and Delutaya already.

Filian 1 million subscriber get btw.
Leapfroged like 5 people this week and got 500k subs since July.

>>34164319
It's the same average

>>34164319
Yes, holodate uses weighted average and the fact that you don't know that makes you the tourist retard.

>>34164319
Holodata uses average CCV, that is CCV over duration. It's the same.

>>34164319
>Being an antagonistic faggot when you're too much a newfag to know what Holodata uses
Get out

>>34164351
Fair enough, it's still retarded just not for the reasons I thought.

>>34163476
>as though Suisei didn’t list Mori as her oshi
she only said she respects Mori as a fellow artist cuckbeat, don't push it

>>34164171
https://www.hololive-songs.com/?week=-1
>Aitore - 800k per week still
>Q - 200k per week
It will take a long ass time, but should beat it to 30 mil.

>>34164327
See >>34162765
And don't overdose on copium while you're trying to figure out a reason why Kronii was getting a higher AVERAGE CCV than her PEAK playing the same boring shit a couple of months ago

>>34164180
>144p

>>34164050
>muhmuh JP brand
You get to say that when JP surpasses EN in subs

>>34164384
>It's still retarded because it shows Kronii is bleeding viewers thanks to her fuckup
Delicious ENfag cope, love it.

>>34163243
Literally the only HoloEN VODs I've watched are her Holotalks and the Mythbreakers series.
There's definitely a demand for it.

>>34163644
Archive rep. We talked about this already 1 or 2 months back.

>>34164420
why would she put [Just Chatting] as the first term for a Birthday stream?

This isn't Twitch with its categories. You want the big, eye catching event written first.

>>34163557
nigga Anya has more JP members than ID members.

>>34164420
That's on you though

>>34163373
No, but they're probably still gonna appear at Nijifes remotely

>>34164449
not it's retarded because you're using 7 streams to create a trendline, only like 4 of which came after the big drama (and have the highest CCV of the set). You're like the ennaposters bragging about how she's a 6k streamer because of her August numbers.

>>34164418
>comparing powerwash simulator (played by a shit ton of holos, even got featured ina tweet by the devs) to slime fucking rencher 2
yeah you are just a complete retard

>>34164224
Sorry but I only love Azki

>>34164062
Good I don't want to see them

>>34164203
Okay... I am a bit confused.
Does algorithm give her good reps because a holo/niji fans click her stream then recommend it to more similar peoples or give her bad reps because instantly leave mean it had a bad quality stream/video?

>>34162765
There is a grand total of 1 EN atm that can get 20k on buff streams solo.

>>34164466
There are lots of mistakes made by both small and big chuubas. “Naming” their streams is the easiest one to fix, I wonder whether or not there is an article written on that subject.

>>34164497
Just like council and ID 2 in Holoexpo.

So why wasn't Filian the Gura killer?

>>34163587
Western mentality, shilling = sellout.
Also irony poisoned minds can never genuinely "like" anything. Internet culture has made sure that anyone who likes a "capitalist product" - even a simple big mac - will be shat on and discouraged from doing so.

>>34164474
Anya's JP though

>>34164499
It's an ongoing project faggot. We're entertaining ourselves by watching Kroniis viewership nosedive. The end goal to provide incontrovertible evidence that Homo collabs are poison, since Morifags still cope about her numbers with "M-Muh music views"

Nenechi 11k getto

>>34164512
Getting clicks should be good for bottom tier CCVs

>>34164556
actually mentally challenged, both in terms of intelligence and mental instability

>>34163646
Gura will probably get called out by Okayu and Shion, she'll probably meet Marine and be fussed over by her as well.
Rest of them I don't care.

>>34164561
Nene mogging all of Western vtubing
Grim.

>>34163187
No she couldn't, that's you being an insane schizo. Mumei needed fucking Gura for a room review 28k last year, with a "first time 1 on 1 collab" buff

>>34164583
>playing a buff game during Japan primetime

>>34164519
Now? Yeah but it wasn't that long ago that Kronii could hit 20k with the right content
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/rhCEubxY5sg

Michael got like 800$ this stream, probably more than the last few Twitch streams.

She's been pretty pissed most of the stream, talking about chatters, occasionally amused at random shit kaigais send.
How bad is it still for her in Japan? most of the donations were not in Yen.

>>34164556
Now do one with Mumei. She doesn't collab with any homo. Why did her numbers go down faggot ???

>>34163893
unironically, EN3
fresh blood is the only thing that can salvage this rotting corpse of a branch

Scarle got a raid from Maria
Nice retention so far

>>34164418
Kronii was really struggling to come up with something to talk about. I stuck around for maybe 15 to 20 minutes. I chuckled a bit at the weird wonton dream she mentioned, and I just sort of sat there in disbelief when she mentioned *another* unfinished subway sandwich she had in the fridge that she ate.
At this point, it isn’t that the unicorns won. Kronii lost. The best way to own the unicorns, had she seriously wanted to do it, would be to talk about interesting things and make them want to stay without the parasocial shit.
Which…I don’t know if she can do.

>>34164556
>We

>>34164583
Nene, I kneel!
>gen5schizo can no longer sneed

>>34164605
>Why did her numbers go down faggot ???
They didn't, she's been stable for months now

>>34163988
I like how you have to ignore Irys to push this narrative.

>>34164592
EN can do the same during NA hours, but they don't

>>34164594
Kronii and mumei were the only 2 other than gura that could hit 20k solo multiple times. Sad that they both reclined.

>>34164611
Raspberry tally anon BTFO

>>34164615
But she's always been like this

>>34164627
IRyS isn't part of council, anon.

>>34164627
IRyS is not Council anon. Even then, her JP collabs are minimal which is a shame. IDs have more JP collabs than her

>>34164244
You can spot the exact moment we got raided by globalfags trying to defend Kroniis honor

>>34164394
She literally put Mori as her oshi. As in in the box labelled as oshi she listed Calliope Mori. It’s literally the reason the DeathStar songs exist.

>>34164621
>Stable for months
Anon, this month has been her first month below 9k median since February. And she's at 7.9k. that's not stable at all.

>>34164640
Ina did that just, that, though. Splatoon 3 in NA primetime. Sadly EN don't have buff games.

>>34164162
watch some JP clippers as well, they mog the fuck out of EN clippers in terms of editing : https://youtu.be/objCr4nHivU

>>34164605
Imagine getting absolutely assblasted and defensive about Kronii

>>34164596
Did you count the in-game currency donations?

>>34164650
I was being diplomatic.

>>34163862
and it could rain whales tomorrow
dosen't mean i am going to entertain that absurd possibility

Hello anon! You miss me?
https://youtu.be/uh-beDrR1LQ

>>34164650
Yeah but now she needs to rely on it to get viewers and...who wants to watch that shit? The irony is even the most parasocial JPs like Lamy are way, way better at being entertaining streamers than Kronii who is depressing to watch

>>34164542
>Not blue
Korean Fillian has a better chance.

Found that they actually did intro interviews btw, subbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l8-y6p6igI
she sounded like a spazzy, savant, teen zoomer at the time.
Warning that the founder appears towards the end and his model looks wack.

>>34164405
>Growth is infinite and never falls off.
You can see in the growth Treasure Box started off slower than Q, got a big boost off going of on TikTok then started slowing down again. Even though it hit 9 million faster than Q it took more days from 8 to 9 million than Q did.

>>34164706
You will never be a Cover employee

>>34164667
I think she's backtracked a bit on that since working with Mori closely. Suisei has had enough time for the "Kari chan kakkoii!" goggles to wear off. She was disgusted with mori in rust.

>>34164694
This feels like a video from the Four Heavenly Kings era of vtubing, like holy shit.

>>34164710
No I did not. Get the fuck out of here or I'll stuff bugs into your vagina.

>>34164710
>Mysterious ghost daughter
who else for this feel?

>>34164110
kuzunoha?

>>34164747
Weird cope

>>34164696
Fucking nigger I'm a hooman. What I'm trying to say is numbers for all EN either Niji or Holo has gone down the gutter since last month

>>34164747
BASED retard who didn’t even bother watching Suiseis Rust stream where she went gambling with Mori.

>>34164714
>Lamy
>better at anything
yeah maybe she's better at not streaming lmao

>>34164621
retard. fact check before you post

>>34164772
Gura

>>34164714
Nothing has changed for 99% of viewers. Her streaming style doesn't appeal to you, that's all

>>34164778
Check out these stream numbers
>BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!!
>10k
lmao. Kronii will be down there soon.

>>34164740
that's why i said to 30 mil anon, otherwise if the current growth stays, it should beat it to 22-23 mil.

>Growth is infinite and never falls off.
is the type of basic shit we don't even say as adults, because it's understood at a base level in this conversation.

>>34164710
What stop cover or anykara from buying her model and turn her into their next star?

>>34164615
Kronii can't, anon. She needs dreams and hard work. But everything about her screams self-satisfied pot smoker. Anyway we'll know if she finally has a dream when there's lasting change in her solo content.

>>34164819
We were not talking about numbers? You are really one obsessed indog, aren't you?

>>34164819
This is such a complete and pathetic non sequitur it’s funny. Why are you so asspained at the idea that Suisei likes Mori and is a fan of her?

>>34164816
Kek

>>34163788
>>34163817
Told you retards, he donates multiple times a stream

>>34164667
timestamp?

>>34164788
HoloEN mostly because of the homo collab spam. EN has always had shit numbers, hence cripple tally but they're actually reclining at an astounding pace now. The only EN who can still get consistently above 10k is Gura now, that's mindblowing because there are at least 12 JPs who can hit 10k with ease no matter the content.

>>34164816
kek

The fools gold tally is looking pretty spicy today. What's the record gold, anyway? 250ish?

>>34164858
>We were not talking about numbers?
No shit, so get back on topic or go back to global nigger