/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

I have mumei's stream open just to look at her thighs. They are gorgeous.

>>34148746
Irys and Mumei lost about ~200 each. Bae didn't have an immediate funnel out but she's bleeding and is now sub 4k

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>34,357: Subaru (Hololive)
>32,498: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,110: Salome (Nijisanji)
>23,041: Ayame (Hololive)
>18,957: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,880: Mumei (Hololive)
>15,586: Ina (Hololive)
>15,220: Shion (Hololive)
>14,599: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>14,446: Mio (Hololive)
>13,829: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,639: GatchmanV (Indie)
>13,580: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,241: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,873: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,723: Magni (Holostars)
>10,411: Luna (Hololive)
>10,035: Iroha (Hololive)

>>34148825
She's only above Bae and Kiara

bots

>>34149009
botted post

>>34148849
/news/ roundup for 27-09-2022
>>34116806
Recent clip numbers
>>34107568
>>34107593
>>34107953
>>34107999

>>34148944
She has a lot of thigh squish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0kPTpK1YFc
Will we get a menhera moment? Someone should record it

>IRyS is third or fourth strongest EN
>Gura
>Ina
>Fauna
>Mumei
>Kronii
>Baelz
>Mori
>Ame
>Irys
>Kiara

What happens if EN3 is the EN version of JP first army? Will they kill Myth?

Not that surprising desu, irys has a way stronger floor than moom and bae

>>34149025
>>34149009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE

>>34148971
If IRyS abandoned EN and joined JP she would be more popular than Pekora. She's wasted in EN.

>>34149092
i mean, non gura myth is already almost irrelevant, so sure

Kronii timeloop.

Yikes kronii!

>>34149076
Saplings are this delusional

>>34149115

>>34149115
Sorry buddy, 2.9m legit clicks from impressions, no bots here.

>13 people here right now
Are the "# is reclining" anons correct?

Kronii is gonna catch ALL the funnels...

>>34149092
Well, we will never know cuz it's not happening

>>34149213
/#/s is actually collapsing into a singularity

>>34148622
>Fauna can't stop bringing that game up every other SC reading.
It's not her that brings it up, it's the SCs. And she also says she doesn't know if they have permissions and it's clearly not something she cares enough to bother with checking

>>34149092
Will Gura become the daisenpai of HoloEN?

>>34149093
It's way more fun to watch irys play rockman.

>>34149076
If we're going ccv floor wise
>Gura
>Ina
>Fauna
>Irys
>Kronii
>Ame
>Mumei
>Bae
>Mori
>Kiara

>>34148235
>>34148375
>>34148752
It actually does count, but you have to manually trigger the playback or click through the link to the video link for it to count. Auto-playback doesn't. But spamming it gets culls.

It's all the fault of kpop stans.

Kronii has a good momentum so far.

>>34149092
Just don't say the G killer word sure

3 council + IRyS in an overlap amounts to about 20k viewers. Could be worse.

>>34149146
I know this is a shitpost, but if irys actually was a JP, she'd be doing even worse honestly. She offers nothing new to nips and she doesn't have the meme and tourist reach that Coco had. She'd just be another drop in the ocean.

>>34149237
Watch as they name EN3 as "FICTION"

Just you wait, bae will raid kronii that traitor.

>>34149275
That's mori. She debut first

>>34149115
Am.. I a bot?

>>34149348
Part of her appeal to EN is that almost everything she says sounds like an innuendo. She doesn’t come across that way when she speaks Japanese.

>>34149392
No, but you are part of the singularity

the bae 4k floor....

Bae is still bleeding....

i decided to watch irys today and there has been several points where i have questioned if she has like an eye problem or something

>>34149299
Right, that's what I thought
As I understand it, non-autoplay views should count
but they also have some ML behind the scenes that try to cull view spamming
which is what the whole kpop stan guide is in a constant arms race with

>>34149291
ame and irys too high

>>34149092
Myth (yes, even Gura) and Kronii should get killed by EN3 for the sake of holoEN's survival. Bae can be the token homo shill like Fubuki and Matsuri are for JP while Mumei, Fauna, IRyS and EN3 & EN4 rebuild the branch.

>>34149291
floor is meaningless

>>34149513
Well it's that time of the month you know...

>>34149299
Yea, that makes more sense. It doesn't make sense that shared videos WOULDN'T count towards views, but stopping autoplays in embeds and other kpop faggotry from counting is in line with YT's previous actions.

>>34149516
Did you also question if she has brain problems?

>>34149092
I think it would help myth. If en3 are a bunch of geniuses, it would be good.
Some sort of new genius entertainer for Gura to bounce off of. Some sort of really good organizer so Ame isn't running every single major branch event and holiday. A new musical type might just be competition for Mori but hey, they could collab, whoever it is would probably look up to her.

>>34149348
It was a shitpost. She doesn't have anything unique to make her stand out, lacks the work ethic of most of the JPs. She's only doing decent because the competition is only 9 other talents and not 35. Being in roughly the bottom third of only 9 talents isn't great, especially when a third of them never even stream.

>>34149299
If they go through this much trouble to validate even VOD views, why do people here deride them as inflated and unreliable?

>>34149557
Here's ceiling then
>Gura
>Kronii/mumei
>Literally everyone else

holoenbox vs nijienbox

>>34149611
a bit, but like, near the start of the stream when she couldn't even see the boss door kinda baffled me

>>34149614
EN3 is never happening

>>34149684
Aia...

>>34149317
She typically wins Council overlaps and multi-POV collabs. Her margin's been shrinking for months, though. Mumei and Fauna almost closed the gap as of the last SNOT stream.
If Kronii's caught "male debuff" disease it shouldn't show yet. The day Mori dedicated herself to owning the haters and the day her ccv hit bottom were a few months apart.

>>34149698
That's the IRyS experience. Hope you enjoyed it.

>>34149710
Maybe, my friend, maybe. You've been here 16 hours a day for the past month and a half, and your dedication just might be rewarded if we don't get a new gen in the next few weeks.

>>34149664
Last samurais can't admit that EN > JP that's why

Talk about NijiEN numbers and predictions for NijiEN inclines and reclines. Now.

>>34149664
No self-respecting numberchat doubts the validity of YouTube's VOD counter. People ignore them because it is too slow to track for their ADHD gambling fix and the unreliable part is actually because people can't tell just how much of a video did the audience watched.

Luckily for us, YouTube started implementing a replay graph that we can use to at the very least understand how VODs are being watched.

>>34149710
Anons how do i refute him?

>>34149553
Chumbuds wont leave Gura ever and also what can IRyS do when she's literally a nobody. If anything she'll be hurt the most by EN3. People already don't even know Irys, now imagine 5 more girls joining the party. And i doubt HoloEN will even be salvageable by the time we get an "EN4"

Ryeschizo, where are you?

Mumei's going to sc reading already

>>34149872
Say EN3 is Tempus.

>>34149741
Yup. If Kronii's CCV took a notable hit already, that would spell utter doom for her in the future.

>>34149684
Oh there's that vaunted Ren piano stream
Yeah that's not getting cripple gold at this rate
What else is on the plate tonight?

>>34149684
let me get this
Gura Box > HoloEN Box >NijiEN box

>>34149865
i want these people out

>>34149888
>Chumbuds wont leave Gura ever
We've been marveling all day at their obsessive worship of Gura. If she streams, they're happy. If she doesn't stream, they start grooming indies and transforming them into Gura and building advanced AI models to generate their own personal Guras. The most dedicated fanbase that can't be filtered by anything.

>>34149943
A funneled IRyS

>>34149904
not that schizo, but here you go

uhhh why is everyone ignoring the fact that IRyS started earlier than everyone else?

>>34149865
>unironically breaking containment
That shit should be ban worthy in forums.

>>34149888
Irys might be able to carve out a niche as the retro hag of the branch
I'd be more worried about Bae who already has content identity issues on top of a weak floor

>>34149865
beggar meltdown

>>34149741
a death by a thousand cuts

>>34149865
LMAO

>>34149943
Whichever one of the holoEN girls that goes the longest will get it, probably irys or kronii

>>34149935
Have you seen her on twitter lately? Owning the haters is all what she does nowdays.

>>34149865
reddit s****** in it's natural habitat

>>34150011
Cause she started under an overlap already and managed to get to 7k on her own

>>34150011
Not her fault that some of the other girls put their frames up at the last second.

>>34148959
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order
22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34.966 - 3D debut
23) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 67.731 - The Strange Tales of Nijisanji
24) Mito (Nijisanji) - 51.019 - Birthday gyakutotsu
25) Subaru (Hololive) - 52.721 - Persona 4 Golden
26) Aqua (Hololive) - 29.303 - New hairstyle reveal
27) Subaru (Hololive) - 34.357 - Otakatsu Exhibition

>PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive
5x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Miko, Subaru
2x: Ayame, Marine, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Mito Moona, Naru, Sora, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
172x: Hololive
87x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
17x: Aqua, Miko
16x: Kuzuha, Salome
12x: Subaru
11x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naru, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>34149741
Mori has been playing debuff games exclusively and her old songs are doing just as well as before but nice try ignoring context

>>34150011
IRyS is cute but dumb and I can't stand how bad she is on Megaman.

>>34149865
So fucking annoying and also, saying the subreddit has always been about "holopro" is just revisionist history. They only really started pushing this "Hololive is actually Hololive + Holostars" this past year

>>34149865
>your hologirls
They don't even try to hide it anymore.

>>34150023
Bae has been doing well recently but that mostly cause she’s been spamming buff games at good time slots with little to no overlap.

>>34149865
>r/lsf
>r/vyt
>r/asmongold
yeah. definitely /here/
stop posting your own reddit posts

>>34149076
>Fauna that high
>Bae that high
delusional

>>34150063
Guess the mask is completely off now.

>>34150081
of course not, but anyone claiming that IRyS is top 5 holoEN is ridiculous

>>34149865
Beggar is mad

can someone finally ask the subreddit where do i post if i just want girls, the homos get their own sub

>>34149865
Jesas

>>34149677
What about true average

>>34149865
How do I report this guy?

>>34150159
cope

>>34150188
At least recently its
>Gura
>Ina
>Fauna
Too lazy to check the rest

>>34150185
It's reddit, make your own incel sub if you're that scared of men in your hobby

>>34149281
>rockman
People like you are the worst. You aren't Japanese and never will be. She is playing Mega Man. The stream title says Mega Man the description says Mega Man, and the fucking game says Mega Man.

>you
Hurrrrr Rockman

SEPTEMBER EVENTS
>28) Nijigold (Kuzuha day)
>29) ??
>30) Nijigold (nijifes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hCAB79NUMc))

>>34150216
see >>34150216

>>34150159
Wait for the redesign. She's gonna challenge Gura.

>>34149977
>Don't waist time on the incels over at /ggg/ they're unresponsive

>>34150011
This is numbers not context and logical thinking

>>34150159
She probably is top 5 at least floor wise. Her ceilings, vod views and merch sales aren't great though

>>34150239
kys twitter fag

>>34150185
Dont bother. They"ll just call you a unicorn incel. And consider you owned.

>>34150240
but she is playing Zero

>>34150266
Unironically this. Also my skin is brown and I wish I was Japanese.

>>34150306
heh

>>34150080
>7k is a high bar now
holy recline

>>34150185
there were some comments like that a around Tempus debut, but you can guess what happened to them

>>34150343
Who are you quoting?

Kronii got like a 700 viewer funnel from mumei going to sc reading what the fuck

>>34150188
>>34150235

Did Kronii just Z?

>>34150385
Looks like a mumei funnel

>>34149865
Why is mentioning 4chan even allowed there? Shouldn't be considered as bad as talking about doxx or pirate sites?

>>34150382
EN is just Gura lol

>>34150382
Amelia has had multiple single pov collabs on her channel this month.

So why do people always ignore Fauna barely needs to deal with overlapping compared to other council members.

>>34150378
Kronmei is a thing

Doesn't look like a funnel from moom

>>34149945
IMO it's more like:
Gura box (which includes JP, and even niji tourists)
Luxiem box (filled with chink tourists)
non-Gura holo EN box
non-Luxiem niji EN box
stars EN box

This is only accounting for peak CCV for tourist filled events
For average CCV, it's more like:
Gura
(power gap)
Luxiem & top holo EN
rest of holo EN, Nowa?, maybe some of Noctyx, Enna, Selen
stars EN, rest of the 4-view niji EN
3-view niji EN

>>34150385
It looks like a kon kon kitsune to me.

>>34150465
"le fauna has a seperate audience"

>>34150382
Ame's CCV average is getting a big buff from all of the collabs she has hosted this month. It's interesting that her and Fauna's CCV average is so close when Fauna's ceiling is so massively lower.

>>34150501
It's a "Kon Kon kitsune"

>>34150465
Huh? People praise fauna here for having a high floor no matter the overlap all the time

>>34150501
What the hell happened to that Ren stream?

>Bejeweled 3 next week
Stop playing this game bae

>>34150382
Ayame streamed more often than Suisei.
She's first army.

>No gura streams probably until the end of the week

Damn I didn't know the illuminati HAARP operators were nijisisters.

>>34150501
Looks like bots to me

>>34149945
NijiJP Box > Gura Box > HoloJP Box > HoloEN Box > HoloID Box > NijiEN Box

>>34150382
How much does that sub-1 minute stream affect the average?

>>34150501
>Ren Zotto
Holy silhouettes, Batman!

>>34150465
Lately that has been the opposite, with everyone slamming big fat juicy collabs right onto her timeslot.

>>34150595
Not at all since it's a weighted average

>>34150501
>Those Ren and Kronii graph
BOTS

>>34150518
Mainly that Fauna stream hours before everyone else.

>>34149888
Look, holoEN either recovers or straight up dies and disappears into the void depending on EN3. If EN3 continues the nijisanjification, holoEN will recline to nijiEN numbers and loses a major viewer demographic forever (who will go to holoJP, small corpos or just lose interest in vtubers). If EN3 steers back towards holoJP, holoEN -can- survive but this cycle will repeat with every new gen because holoEN branding has changed and in turn changes who will audition for it and why.

>>34150508 (me)
On second thought, "luxiem" should really be "top luxiem" since some of them get shit average CCV

>>34150596
>Sony NIJIP bots > Gura Box > ...

fixed

>>34149092
Myth sans Gura is already dead. Even Mori is a sub 5k shitter most of the time.

>>34150542
Too bad the month is ending so Kon Kon Kitsune anon can't spam it all month.

>>34150508
>Luxiem
You're living a few months in the past

>>34150382
polka...

>>34150501
I think those kon kon kitsunes are getting ready to mate. This graph is not safe for work.

>>34149888
IRyS can do what Gura can't. Stream.

>>34150465
she's been overlapping ina and kronii though

IRyS is the strongest and most stable EN jesas

>>34150733
What, her average and peak look pretty good to me...

>>34150501
so redditors are not only using bot for upvoting homobeggars

>>34150815
delusional as always when gura and ina exists

>>34150831
those numbers only work /here/
I'm pretty sure hours watched is what really matters for yt revenue

Maybe Kronii could compete with IRyS if she would shut the fuck up about Subway for one goddamn minute.

>>34150101
No, he's right that they have been pushing Holostars on the Hololive reddit ever since Cover took over back in 2020. Before that it was just a fanmade place made by some Azur Lane fags to post fanart.
But now that Holostars also have their own separate official reddit and a reddit mod just for them it's silly that they're posting the Holostars on both places but the girls are forced to share theirs because "ACTUALLY Hololive means Hololive Production so the Holostars belong here as well, get fucked".

>>34150873
homobots

>>34150815
>not beating Ina debuff content with a buff game

>>34150653
OK, but what if EN3 never exist at all?

>>34147937
I thought we all watched the Spiffingbrits shat on Youtube impression not long ago and agreed that the whole platform is fucking dog shit right now. That's why numbers reclined everywhere

>>34150934
Is hours watched as generated on these charts a good facsimile for actual hours watched on YT? not so sure about that

>>34150950
>noooo we have to segregate holostars on their own sub and ignore them just like what holoJP does
English site, English fanbase, get used to it

>>34151027
It's hours watched while live

>>34148849
ANGELINAAAAAA!!

>>34150987
is megaman even a buff, not even JPs dont get buffed by it

>>34150952
what the fuck
so Omega is really a Niji plant, even using the same tools and techniques

>>34150948
Maybe Kronii could compete with IRyS if she would shut the fuck up about Tempiss and their cocks.

>>34150950
what is stopping people from creating a new subreddit?

>>34151080
Eh, irys gets her usual 7-8k on it, probably neutral or a very slight buff

>>34150993
In that scenario holoEN is already dead and I would recommend doing your nihongo reps.

>debuff game - Newly released game
>buff game - game released in 1997
never change numerfags, never change

Can somebody in HoloEN join Chama's autism festival pls? She wants EN friends

Based on the comment Mumei made just now on how she wasn't sure if she had the same permissions as the other JP girls or even Fauna, do they not just have a 'list' of games they have perms for that they can choose from whenever they want? Do they have to ask management for permission for each individual game or some convoluted shit?

>>34151080
Megaman will never be a buff for any streamers unless they're good at it.

Management trusts Fauna more with Civ5 than Mumei

>>34151080
I don’t know if it’s buff but it is fun to watch IRyS plays it.

>>34151027
It's not, and that number is only available to the channel owner so we'll never know them.

>>34151164
Sounds like Mumei is just retarded.

>>34151063
HoloJP is massively popular and inclining while EN is dead in the water and largely irrelevant except for merch sales which have nothing to do with the actual quality of the content.

>>34151136
>dont have time fot Nihongo reps
>relegated to clip watcher
No....

>>34151128
>her usual 7-8k
Anon, she only break 7K on buff content.

>>34151164
JP and EN permissions are different because of regional bullshit. Like, the SE perms for JP aren't the same as EN, and most of the Final Fantasy games are NG to play for EN excpet for 14 it looks like.
It's really just a fucking mess.

>>34150952
ngl that's suspicious af
MC is not a game where graphs like that should happen

>>34151180
she said that Gura didn’t get permissions either
maybe they’re using Fauna as test subject

>>34151159
Did Haacham even try to talk to them into it in the first place?

>>34151164
they definitely can't rely on JP permissions because publishers are different and they are the ones giving out permissions

>>34151225
Remind me which branch has the highest average subs to streamer and vod views to streamer ratio again?

>>34151234
But the incline...

>>34151261
Why are they so afraid? Is that a yab game or something?

>>34151294
>Ratio cope
Nice, blast from the past that one

>>34151126
Nothing, but most people aren't going to use it.
Same reason most Holostar fans don't post on the Holostars reddit either: "most people use the main Holo sub so why use the other one".

>>34151316
worst, it's history

Why is EN vtubing dying?

>>34151261
they didn't forgive her for showing the taiwan flag on her bully stream huh

>>34151345
>trying to compare cumulative numbers for 10 people to 35
retard

Can sana tower revive MC arc and bring back the numbers?

>>34151027
>>34151070
she's doing good then

>>34151316
They just don't want to have some shit where you're playing as the Americans and you make a joke about american indians or something. Fauna unironically is probably more safe than an autist like mumei or a dumbass like Gura

>>34151316
it has a lot of nations and historical leaders
basically you can have something like japan destroying china in one game

>>34146453
>>34146307
>>34146411
all of those are easy answers: its a sponsorship stream. not hard to look either
speaking of it, heres all the nijien sponsorships
>Finana: 12
Onmyoji in September, Blue Archive in December, Princess Connect in January, Summoner Wars in April, Otaku's Adventure in May, Vanguard in june, Punishing: Gray Raven in July, Punishing: Gray Raven in August, Cardfight Vanguard Anime Watchalong (2x), Punishing: Gray Raven and Artery Gear Fusion in September
>Elira: 10
Onmyoji in September, Project Sekai in november, Pronty in December, Alchemy Stars in January, Japan Cultural Expo in March, Genshin Impact in April, PUBG Mobile in May, Punishing: Gray Raven and Alice Fiction in July, Tower of Fantasy in August
>Pomu: 10
Onmyoji in September, Project Sekai in November, Princess Connect in January, Japan Cultural Expo in March, Cookie Run in May and Touhou Lost World in May, RUINSMAGUS and Punishing: Gray Raven in July, Mangamo and Tower of Fantasy in August
>Millie: 8
Princess Connect in January, CounterSide, Shadowverse and Vanguard in June, Tower of Fantasy in August, Thy Creature and Punishment Gray Raven and Cardfight Vanguard Anime Watchalong in September
>Selen: 8
Project Sekai in October, Princess Connect in January, PUBG Mobile in May, Overwatch League in July, Punishing: Gray Raven and Tower of Fantasy in August, Goddess of Victory: Nikke and Sonic Frontier in September
>Rosemi: 7
Japan Cultural Expo in March, Solasta in April, Shadoverse and Tower of Fantasy in June, Affogato in July, Tower of Fantasy in August, Tokyo Game Show Tour guide in September
>Nina: 7
Princess Connect in January, Solasta in April, PUBG Mobile in May, Tower of Fantasy in June, Tower of Fantasy and Gamescom Cosplay contest in August, Sonic Frontier in September
>Petra: 6
Project Sekai and Alchemy Stars in January, AnimeJapan in March, Otaku's Adventure in May, CounterSide in June, Alice Fiction in August
>Reimu: 6
Princess Connect in January, PUBG mobile in May, CounterSide and Defend the Bits in June, Tower of Fantasy in August, Sonic Frontiers in September
>Shu: 5
Alchemy Stars, Shadowverse and Tower of Fantasy in June, Alice Fiction in July, Tower of Fantasy in August
>Vox: 4
Cookie Run in May, Naraka and Tower of Fantasy in June, Tower of Fantasy in August
>Alban: 4
Alchemy Stars in June, ibispaint in july, Tower of Fantasy and Gamescom in August
>Mysta: 3
PUBG Mobile in May, Tower of Fantasy in August, Sonic Frontiers in September
>Ike: 2
Shadowverse in June, Tower of Fantasy in August
>Luca: 2
Genshin Impact in April, Tower of Fantasy in August
>Enna: 2
Princess Connect in January, Tower of Fantasy in August
>Sonny: 1
Tower of Fantasy in August
>Uki
Tower of Fantasy in August
>Fulgur:1
Tower of Fantasy in August
>Ren:1
Sonic Frontiers in September
>Scarle: 1
Goddess of Victory: Nikke in September

>>34151316
extremely
especially if you know mumei, she'll play it in a way to will piss-off everyone

>>34151316
Human history is the ultimate yab in the wrong situation, anon.
Deeply embedded hatred from thousands of years of human history can be stirred up by that game if you're not careful.
That said, I think it's an overreaction to ban moomers and gura from playing it.

>>34150501
>Risotto waited until fucking now to bust out the instrument buff
Also Jesus christ
>6k
>6k
>5k
>4k
EN3 is not going to be kind to Myth and Council if they're all PST babies.

>>34151394
Nobody is comparing cumulative numbers. EN gets btfo by mid tier JPs like Botan.

HoloEN has Civ5 perms except for Mumei

>>34151316
China, Japan and Korea exist in the game and depending on how the game plays out, subhumans can get mad.

Get him dude

>>34151164
There's something rotten in the whole permissions process. Kronii mentioned she asked for slime rancher 5 months ago and only realized they got them when one of the Holostars was playing it recently.

>>34151186
Games like this do well for IRyS because it's like watching an adventure. She isn't good at them but she never gives up and she will eventually power through and finish it. She is the best.

>>34151389
only some are, others are fine
some Holos are reclining because Tempus
some Niji's are reclining because they are girls in a male oriented company

>>34151294
>vod views to streamer ratio
should've put individual vods there to make it even more of a cope

>>34151316
>That said, I think it's an overreaction to ban moomers and gura from playing it.
Anon, both Mumei and Gura are unreliable actors.

>>34151486
That's just crazy and hilarious if true. I probably should tune into this mumei stream if she's spilling stuff like that.

>>34151486
*Mumei and Gura

Ren and Kronii are have a serious battle right now for shittiest, least smooth graph

>>34151316
It's like playing Monopoly and AmongUs with your family, but this is specifically idol kryptonite.

>>34151453
Mumei is doing SC readings

>>34151460
Lmao

>>34151433
they're really taking everything roru, i imagine they are just taking them for money, not because they believed in the product. It's not like they're HoloEN where they can choose not to do a sponsorship or get forced by management for it. for nijiEN, it's like if you want money, you do this but you're gonna be a sell out

>>34151559
blue woman buff is fucking wasted on kronii

>>34151521
Just tell them not to pick any of the notable schizo shit-stirrer nations for their games AKA any asian country

>>34151559
>botting Kronii to hide the fact she killed her numbers

>>34151397
Fuck you I'm tired of block game

>>34151316
Because Mumei/Gura are retarded enough to attack China/Korea/African civs while saying something unintentionally offensive.

>>34151519
I don't even need to bring out the fact that Gura has the most 1M+ videos in hololive to BTFO your inane last samurai arguments

>>34151616
But,,,,China and ESPECIALLY Korea are such strong starters in Civ V....

>>34151598
now post mori's latest music

>>34151598
What the fuck. Those have to be VOD viewers, right? I guess dead subs aren't completely dead.

>>34151598
>VODcope
Lmao. EN classic

>>34151093
It is a Youtube defect, not a bot. Even HoloID, HoloJP, and HoloEN experienced it. The waves are just not that noticeable. It even happened during the Amogus collab.

>>34151316
I haven't played Civ in awhile, but doesn't the zhang want to censor genghis khan?

>irys ending after this boss
will irystocrats funnel to bae or to kronii?

>>34149553
Anon, there will literally never be a Gura killer. Gura is the perfect combination of various qualities that make her as big as she is. Shes an actual unicorn of a girl.
Maybe Cover will surprise everyone and bring some literal nobody in EN3 thats like Gura except likes streaming more and communciates better, but I doubt it. The only thing that'll kill Gura is herself whenever she eventually decides to graduate and disappear from the internet again

>>34150731
Already amended myself - see >>34150660

Gura
(power gap)
top non-Gura holo EN, top Luxiem
rest of holo EN and Luxiem, Nowa?, some of Noctyx, Enna, Selen
stars EN, rest of 4-view niji EN
3-view niji EN

>>34151658
Doesn't matter when you have people like Fauna going for Ghandi

>>34151598
>5 mins vs Susan'd stream
Deadbeats.

>>34151543
Kek, why are the Guras not allowed to play it?

Rrat: EN3 hasn't happened because a majority of the EN girls have pushed back against management. They've seen the writing on the wall with declining viewer turnout and know another gen would leave them dead in the water. To counter this, Cover decided to rush out Tempus instead since the girls have no sway with Holostars, this is why their models were lower quality since there was pressure to get them done. You can tell which girls were against EN3 by their blatant silence on the homos, while the girls that didn't care about EN3 have welcomed the boys with open arms

>>34151650
>Gura has the most 1M+ videos in hololive
Actually it's Marine
>inb4 n-no those videos don't count

>>34151710
Hopefully Bae

>>34151710
im going to bed

>>34151316
The game is ABOUT politics. You ever think how even 4chan has banned political discussion from all boards and made a designated jail for it?

>>34151662
Lmaooooooooo

>>34151742
Please take your rrat and drown it in the bath, it smells.

>>34151710
The only irystocrats that hate bae are /here/, majority of them like BaeRyS so i don't see why they'd go to Kronii over her.

>>34151710
Funnel won't be that big. IRyS will read superchats for like 2 hours.

>>34151598
Ruh roh.

>>34151694
en & id on permanent ccvid
if i'm in en3, i would seek fresh new viewers and not rely on the en box until they fucking turn off their watch history

>>34151775
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
UMG SCAMMED!

>>34151747
b-but Gura is the most incredibly perfect girl in the world. S-She couldn't possibly lose to a whore like Marine.

>>34151710
None, they will go to sleep

>>34151741
Mori's stream was Susan'd too retarded last samurai

EN 10k today?

>>34151775
Sir? Anon meat her collab song with watame? Surely that one is doing bad.

>>34151740
they’re not willing to risk Mumei and Gura

>>34151741
Both are scuffed streams.

>>34151271
Kinda. She asked Gura for a Collab in smashkart 51

>>34151598
Cuckbeats are pathetic

>>34151814
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What's going on here?

>>34151853
Still doing better than whatever songs Botan has but keep coping

>>34151742
This kind of rrat is shooting in too many directions, anon. It wouldn't catch on. I stand by my rrat of the original EN3 backing out because they auditioned pre-Tempus and got spooked by the nijisanjification coming from management.

>>34151747
IIRC it was something like:
most 1M shorts and most 1M in total: Marine
most 1M streams: Gura
most 1M songs: Mori (or Suisei?)

>>34151814
I think you do not know how to compare streams. You just look at numbers with similar dates and then shout "gotcha".

>>34150088
Another HoloMonth
Hololive is too strong

>>34151972
Funny you asked about Ren, I was about to post the same thing about Kronii

>>34150266
Unless the redesign makes her cunny she doesnt have a chance.
Cunny unironically rules the world

>>34151786
Bejeweled is really boring to watch, so slime rancher is a better choice for viewers. Most likely though is that they will just go to sleep

>>34151742
I will take this one until a better one comes along

>deadbeats now have to compare themselves to botan in music
oh the mighty have fallen kek

>>34151833
>2M subs vs 1M subs
VOD coping is pathetic. Look at Iluna vs Tempus

Ludwig inclining

>>34151997
I meant for both of them honestly. Both their graphs look SUPER shitty

>>34151814
>comparing debuff game in a shitty time slot to buff game in primetime
Last samurais are pathetic

>>34152003
should've gone with zuma

>>34151775
>JP hag gamer almost has as many views as the "EN suisei"
Nice. JP supremacy

Hmmm

>>34152036
keep us updated when ludwig mentions vtubers again bro

>irys with the first part of a megaman game couldnt beat ina's 4th stream of a hyper debuff game

>>34152047
Mori is the debuff. Botan hits 20k at least once every month, when is the last time Mori got a 20k stream?

>>34152069
Botan literally being the worst singer in her Gen but going toe to toe with EN suzy is just pathetic.

>>34152035
Using CCV is even more pathetic, it's the most unreliable metric Youtube has.

>>34151740
Mumei had the allegedly racist rune symbol and the hindenburg thing so shes banned from anything political. Gura I have no idea but I know Bully got pulled from her after Taiwan appeared in a minigame.

Kronii's graph is an utter disgrace. Ugly Kon Kon Kitsunes littered around.

>>34152039
Is Ren also Canadian?

>>34152074
The next U.S president

>>34152118
To be fair, Ina beat the game. And the lead up to the ending of Splatoon is great, especially the fucking remix to Calamari Inkantation they made for the 3rd game. She spent the entire near end of her stream climbing because of it. That said, IRyS was never super strong to begin with.

>>34152152
So you believe Iluna is a success then?

>>34152168
Gura handled the bully Taiwan thing like a fucking pro once she realized what was happening. Or at least, that's my recollection.

>>34151559
Blue woman has lost the battle

>Council have been having secret offcollabs and not telling anyone about it

>Takodachis comparing Ina to IRyS
>Deadbeats comparing Mori to Botan
EN recline

>>34152118
IRyS isn't considered one of the stronger ENs anyway, should this be a surprise?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsPSaFbonGo
only just hit 1M views after more than 10 months, meanwhile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_X6UNPq2rY
is already at 1/5th of that after only 4 days

>>34152256
That's old news

>>34152074
lol what a blatant and creepy flex

you can't be seriously comparing mori to a non music holo
jesus

>>34152306
Kronii and mumei is and look how they are doing now

>>34152237
Nijis are failures in all metrics, why are you bringing them into this?

Holo vs holo as usual

ugly graphs

>>34152256
Meh. HoloENs offcollabs have all been shit and reduced the stock price of offcollabs as a whole

>>34152069
>1 month and still less views than Mori had in 8 days
Blind fuck

>>34152335
Jpfags are a bunch of snowflakes. They got assblasted with subs.

>>34152402
But Myth's arm wrestling...

>>34152394
Two botted streams vs one normal stream

>>34152256
Explain why they seem really close compared to myth, especially mumei, she seems close to pretty much everyone

>>34152428
if you reply like this you're literally the same

>>34152471
Sana...

>>34152394
What’s wrong with kronii’s graph ? Get botted by homobeggars ?

>>34152402
But Ina's back

>>34152471
Fauna is grooming them

>>34152471
Who gives a shit?

>open /#/
>Mori vs Botan
Now this is what i call a variety.

>bae bejeweled 3 stream next week
rip

>>34152520
yes

Reminder that the 4 on the bottom still receives more support and opportunities from Cover despite the 5 on the top performing better and not causing any real controversies.

>>34150950
>it's silly that they're posting the Holostars on both places but the girls are forced to share theirs
That has been a thing ever since they merged Hololive and Holostars into Hololive Production in December 2019. It's not just a Reddit thing. Cover can use the Hololive name to shill the Stars when they want while officially they're still different groups.
Just look at the twitter accounts @hololivetv used to be only for the girls and @holostarstv was only for the boys but then they rebranded the Hololive account to HoloPro and can post the Holostars on both.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1201335611828817920

>>34152289
Do we have takos here?

So you guys are telling me, i watch holo streams by clicking on the yt links through the schedule site and it doesn't count me as a view? Wtf?

>>34152402
Takamori ones were decent and the guerilla one with Ame, Ina and some of council was alright. But yeah the council only ones were all shit and the Myth offcollab arc was a huge letdown

>>34152076
Speaking of ludwig and being related to vtubers, there's no clips of him talking about vtubing so far despite it being a good view bait for clip fags

>>34152574
Has Nene paid for her sins?

>>34152074
it's not a vtubing or social media phenomenon though. You can find evidence of this way back.

>>34152574
Holostars get more support than both

>>34152574
roleplaying as the gen5 schizo is a sign of mental illness, you should contact your doctor

>>34152632
>Holostars get more support than NePoLaBo
DYRBI?

>>34152616
But Guras suprise guest for her BD

>>34152619
Twitch community has a negative bias against vtubers due to what it did with soda.

>>34152574
Bottom is just a better group
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VupT9JCJaOY
Vs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqMKCYBTzM

>>34152558
She likes the game, it's a shame but can't help it

>>34152715
>gimmick meme song vs the best hologroup song ever

>>34152715
>comparing a song that came out ages ago to a song that's only 1 year old
Why don't you compare their 1st anniversary stream views?

>>34152680
Yes? Stars have always gotten more support than holos have

>>34152574
looking at this table and their total views it just makes it look like ina, watson and kiara just have a bunch of dead subs

>>34152574
Gen5 schizo is slacking, according to his own image Polka has raked in more views than 3/5 Myth and Botan and Lamy have better sub growth than 4/5 Myth.

>>34152598
I don't know, I just blamed them because they brought up Ina.

What would /#/ choose?
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1574974461128081409

>>34152773
Such as?

>>34152793
Polka spams songs and short videos, plus EN activity is just lower because of school opening up again. Learn context please.

i love when nijinigger bait got ignored and reply to herself

>>34152616
I think a big issue about the Myth one was that it was never intended to be a full meetup. It was just supposed to be a work trip where Ame and Kiara worked on 3D shit but it turned into a big offcollab last minute. Not to mention the Mori frat house thing soured the mood for some people.

>>34152771
All I hear is cope
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYfUaHljuKg
Vs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pKJErsN-ylU

>>34152835
>debuff game vs buff stream
why is this a choice

It was Mumei's fault that the Wolf Quest didn't go through. She didn't want to push it to later because then "it'd be too late" (she didn't want to overlap Bae/Ina)

>>34152574
As it should be

>>34152808
Yeah that makes sense. I'm a rosetai btw

>>34152747
she should at least do something like a PopCap games variety stream instead of Bejeweled by itself

>>34152715
>comparing to a topic
kys last samurai

>>34152920
She said multiple people, not just her.

>>34152878
cover vs orison

>game that my oshi plays
>debuff game
>game that your oshi plays
>buff game

>>34152779
Lots of the subs gained during 2020 and early 2021 are dead subs by now, across all branches (especially holo ID)

>>34152920
She said she and other girls
Why wouldn’t Gura stream if she wasn’t busy?

>>34152574
Mori gets more support than anyone else there
Just live in Japan lmao

>>34151796
This: any given IRyS game stream above 6k will only funnel away 1-2k at most if there's SC reading after

>>34152941
Bejeweled with meta conditions, but planning out a stream might be too advanced for Bae.

>>34152878
>1 Jan 2022 vs 12 Aug 2021
Keep taking things out of context, I'm sure reality will twist itself to fit with your delusions sooner or later

>>34152980
Someone is catching up.

>>34153003
>Why wouldn’t Gura stream if she wasn’t busy?
Because it's Gura.

>>34152074
only 11 pages weak af
https://researchmap.jp/HirokiYamano/published_papers/36722066 vtuber thesis

>>34152680
Tell me, what amazing support does NePoLaBo get?

>>34152627
Being an absolute menace in divegrass?

Here's my EN3 rrat. Wolfychu was supposed to be in, but they saw Ren's tweets and axed her because of a potential yab. That is also the reason why they updated auditions page to include the fact that even if you pass the auditions you won't get a guaranteed debut. How's that?

>>34152835
Those 38% that chose Cult of the Lamb are touristniggers/Twittards who never watch stream. They should unironically kill themselves

>>34153094
You stole this form some other retard here

>>34153024
You think that Myth song will reach 5M in 5 months?

>>34153069
Costumes and accessories that Myth doesn't have, got 3D faster than Myth, doesn't have their concerts butchered unlike Gura, gets squeezed into multiple sponsorships alongside far more popular holos

>>34152680
Yes. They are going to their second concert in the year and even more promotions and collabs, like the NGS one.
Gen 5 are fine by themself. Holostars needs the support.

>>34153109
I'd rather watch Cult of the Lamb than another fucking karaoke stream.

>>34153133
Not nowadays with Susan culling their vod views harder than ever

>>34153094
also rye got kicked because alluding to it in discord

>>34153143
Most of that is just being in Japan stuff

>Mumei currently SC reading
>Bae currently SC reading
>IRyS SC reading soon(?)
Kronii funnel incoming

IRyS is the best vtuber in the world. I love her.

>>34153131
Didn't steal it. I'm probably just as retarded as the other guy.

>>34152574
Chigusakek you live like this?

>>34153221
Cover made enough money off of Myth that they could have set up an office in America 2 years ago but they didn't, they funneled all that cash towards propping up mediocre gens like gen 5 instead

>>34153192
when the fuck did she allude to it, she didn't. Never has she said that "I'll be in EN3" or "I'll be in a big corpo soon". All she did was deny going into other corpos.

I can't take these EN3 rrats seriously because any good scouting team would mark down more candidates than the required five in case five separate meteorites fall on all five selected girls the night before they sign their contracts.

>>34152835
Her voice sounds like dying rat

>>34153143
Accessories mostly depend on the artist/rigger. Kiara gets a lot of accessories and even confirmed that she’s getting more hairstyles in January. On the other hand Mori’s rigger hates her and won’t even let her take off her jacket or do more than one hand pose even though the assets already exist.

>>34152541
Isn't that just Holo vs Holo? Well, it isn't Shark vs Rabbit timeloop #243562-908457u2345

>>34153271
That's a dumb idea. Glad they didn't

>>34153271
You mean using Hololive profits to pay for Homo concerts

>>34153271
Based cover, get fucked Ars amalnigger

>>34153143
Myth has more costumes than Gen5 what are you talking about

>>34153282
I believe it's been mentioned before that people can pass the auditions but not be selected. I don't remember where iI read this but yeah I assume there are reserve candidates on standby.

Can someone explain to me wtf is happening with Kronii numbers?

>>34153271
Cover would've set up the office in California, and then californian hires would've californified holoEN and killed it even faster.

IRyS will do more Splatoon collabs.

>>34153300
>Mori’s rigger won’t let her take her jacket off
Biggest crime in vtubing imo

>>34153271
Cover got a lot more sponsors ever since Lamy debut. That's th real truth. ENs barely attract sponsors

>>34153318
Well, it's dumber than usual but nevermind it's just the usual gen5 schizo...

>>34153271
Ah yes the classic "they should build an office in the US" when only 2 people in Myth actually live there, fucking retard

>>34153443
That's not really fair. Lamy is a unique case

>>34153443
Those are just Yakuza money laundering activities

EN3 will be the singer gen

>>34153393
Death throes right before her reactionary defenders move on to their next flavor of the month campaign.

>>34153474
It's 3 now, and two are like 1-2 hours away

34153532
hes talking about the graph you dimwit, no (you) today

>>34153503
At this point there aren't any EN vtubers left to hire who don't sound like 40 year old midwestern gas station prostitutes. Seriously, why do they all sound like that?

Surprise HoloJP x IRyS collab tomorrow

>nijien get shit number
>gen5 myth time loop
>irys is cute
Am I missing anything?

>>34153635
Did she say it was HoloJP? I didn't hear that part

>>34153474
Probably infinitely easier to fly into the states than its been to fly into Japan over last 2 years

is valorant even more of a debuff than apex?

>>34153677
If it wasn't explicit then it was obvious by the fact that she emphasized it was in JP time and it wouldn't be 'someone we would expect'

IRyS finally collabing more with JPs after Tempiss appears.
What does she mean?

>>34153707
yes
unless you're in cr cup

these graphs are both abominations

>>34153657
I want to kiss Lamy!

>>34153657
anon kronii is streaming, unicorn v beggars timeloop