/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Do /we/ even want an EN3 anymore?

>>34089943
Look up Golden Raspberry Awards or the "Razzies" as theyre sometimes called.

>>34089943
I called it Raspberry because of the awards by the same name are given to the worse performers in movies, I do like Fool's Gold tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVGVYd1B8Oc
Seriously guys, when did Salome's song hit 1mil views

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>29,303: Aqua (Hololive)
>29,180: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,584: Miko (Hololive)
>26,038: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,575: Gura (Hololive)
>17,482: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)
>16,531: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>16,084: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,991: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>13,498: NeurMero (Indie)
>13,461: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,609: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,578: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,143: Roberu (Holostars)
>12,023: Mio (Hololive)
>12,013: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,919: Runa (VSPO)
>11,304: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,646: Noel (Hololive)
>10,422: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,160: Botan (Hololive)
>10,128: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)

HoloAlt btfo https://comic-walker.com/viewer/?tw=2&dlcl=ja&cid=KDCW_MF02203174010003_68

>>34089999
Yes, I want more things for artist to draw

>>34089960
/news/ roundup for 26-09-2022
>>34059238
Recent clip numbers
>>34050537
>>34050508
>>34050993
>>34051026

>>34090003
>>34090017
Thank you for the quick replies.
t. tallyhaaton

>>34089960
UMP45 is better btw

>>34090062
anything to stagger pekora lewds, even if only for a couple of days

>EN3 will be an all female guild to rival Tempus forcing interaction from the get go

>>34089999
No one wants EN3. Give us JP7 instead.

We are fast approaching the point where we can no longer deny what's happened: EN3 have been kidnapped by ninjas

Is anyone here a bad enough dude to rescue them?

ENManagement 2 doko?

>>34089999
Yes, if only to see what will happen.
>>34090032
I believe it was ~20 hours or something, it certainly wasn't as fast as Q so no one cared much, but someone made a note of it a few days ago in /#/.

>>34089899
Some of it is also due to all the other livers participating in the song, so there's more than just salome's fanbase looping it

54m before EN3 announcement
Are you ready anon?

>>34090133
instruction unclear, uproar2 released

>>34090190
why would they announce it this late at night

>>34090155
Do they even deserve it?

>Fool's Gold
This is the innovation that keeps people coming here, both big and small numbers can be entertaining if framed in the right context.

>>34090040
It's kinda mid. The characters look so generic and the art is good but ehh

>>34090190
bet your balls, anon

>>34090032
It's...
Actually not bad?
Her first karaoke was terrible tho. Is it really the same person

>>34090208
New day, new gen

>>34090190
There is absolutely no fucking way they would drop a random teaser at fucking 9pm PST/12midnight EST on a Monday night.

>>34090239
kek

>>34090232
It's called 『Post Production』

>>34089960
Bots vs Bots

Why sudden ticks on EN3 posts? Did I miss something?

>>34090228
author is literally who

>>34090287
botted post

>>34090309
You missed a Holo Sweep month is what you missed, those get people more angry than usual at times.

>>34090309
Hints at EN3 soon.

>>34090309
couple of schedules have free end of the week, and you know how those things snowball

>>34090126
It would be kino

>>34090309
The banner change on the subreddit heavily hints that a new gen is coming (since they don't usually change it otherwise). It's also approaching October, which is the second guess for many people after Tempus dropped in July instead of the expected HoloEN3.

>>34090215
Some day, all roads will lead to /#/
I'm not sure if I dread or anticipate it

>>34090274
I am impressed at the post production. Cover must hire whoever that is for Ame.

>>34090126
>All evil monmusu gen
Do it you YAGOO you cowards

>Pippa is unironically capable of crossing the Regis Line
Fuck, that post last thread is making me think of the low-tier shitters in these new terms, I love it

>>34090190
They only announce new EN gens on Tuesday nights.

JWU how have the streams from holoEN been today? Have they set JP up for a good run on the tally? I hope the SNOT collab got 20k+ at least and 30k+ peak

>>34090315
I can kinda tell, but really? With a project like this, you need a name to have people outside your bubble to give a shit.

>>34090432
Oh anon....

>>34090403
They tried to have one for Country Roads...

>>34090432
You already knew, of course, otherwise such a post wouldn't have been made.

Is Pekora too addicted to FGO to stream?

>>34090432
Ah-
Peko-Chan, you're going to want to finish your drink before you hear this

>>34090432

>>34090309
we are approaching the first weekend in october which is the month that many people have hopes for EN3

>>34090432
anon...

How would this board react if it's actually a new JP gen incoming?

Ina and Bae baited some SC

Iofi's clip about getting asked whether she wants "Japanese Spicy or Foreigner Spicy" is doing pretty well. I'm actually surprised at how well JP-subbed ID clips are doing

>>34090309
>banner gone recently
>Multiple HoloEN doesn't have a stream schedule on the weekends
>It's tuesday, perfect for an announcement along with gap before the debut
If it ain't today, it's probably next week

>>34090554
Very happy. Also we will shitpost EN for a month.

>EN 3 will be unmarried Muslim girls that are forbidden to talk to males
Happy now?

Would it be too far off to say that retard in Cover delay EN3 to funnel the tiny bit of EN audience attention on Tempus?

>>34090309
Pure desperation.

So what's everyone's favorite theme they've seen suggested for EN3 so far? Or what you'd personally want.
Get this: cyborgs. That are eerily just a little familiar, but you can't put your finger on it. Slowly over the year you find out they from the future, to right what once went wrong.

>>34090444
its nijisanji x kadokawa what do you expect? one is a chink sweatshop company and the other has olympics bribery scandal.

>>34090403
Ame should hire whoever Cover used for Noel.

>>34090606
Unironically DOA

>>34090606
As a Pakistani I will be beyond happy

>>34090606
Only if the give her one of those hijabs.

>>34090578
ID are unironically more popular in Japan than a lot of holoJPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7xjC200qxo
Why don't jp produce more kpop like songs? Do they hate the koreans?

>>34090606
dude i already don't speak nippon, at least give me understandable english thanks.

>>34090709
Anon you ask some funny questions

>>34090709
>Do Japanese people hate Koreans?

>>34090685
Source?

>>34090623
Insect girls

>>34090709
Unironically yes

>>34090274
Anykara actually has the cast to cycle covers/songs through their hundreds of channels. It'll sound better than most karaoke. Good product benefits the liver and company, and fans benefit by not listening to trash. They have the capital for it too. They can take over the music side of the industry. Would cement their position as TRUE ENTERTAINMENT FACTORY. Their direct competitor is still too small-time. Less profit, less total views, fewer livers, etc.

ACCELERATE is not a meme. It works.

You know, the only reason I want EN3 is that the Ryeshill anon will finally have his closure

>>34090606
aren't IDs muslim

>>34090388
I'm not really seeing the significance of the banner - it's just the holo 5th anniversary thing

>>34090709
>Do they hate the koreans?
no, they hired a male one for gen 4

>>34090709
That wasnt Delutaya...

>>34090748
He already did, anon, the girl streamed again on her account, even showed off her 3D body in underwear, guy's got his closure.

>>34090626
I forgot about the Olympics. Lol

>>34090759
only moona. and she's not really practising muslim

>>34090554
I would honestly be happy since I'm no longer confident with EN's path

>>34090709
>female sanji

>>34090759
None of them are...

>>34090742
Yes

>>34090746
I suppose we can say both niji and holo approach are working. It's unlikely either are going away or losing their position in the industry any time soon

>>34090814
Moona a virgin

>>34090759
kobo is muslim

For real, though, tonight's bait game is weak, let's have something for real and point out this:
If this collab was with anyone other than Bae, Ina would have gotten an easy 20k right now.

>>34090748
/vt/ correctly predicted 2/4 Tempus before Cover even opened auditions for a holostars EN, I'm surprised there's absolutely no consensus or even widely known candidates for even one hypothetical EN3.

>>34090709
yes

>>34090823
Wait what? How did Cover find 9 non-muslim girls in Indo?

>>34090863
Only if it was with Vesper after he gets his tablet

>>34090818
I'm not either but it's gonna be a bad sign if they get out jp7 before en3

>>34090857
Can't say that about EN tho, right?

>>34090869
Nah it was leaked on /vt/, probably from one of the girls that is /here/

>>34090554
A certain angry EOP would not shut up about "last samurai".

>>34090737
Japanese-subbed ID clips regularly shit all over a lot of JP-subbed JP clips.

>>34090869
There are candidates but people just don't like them so they are barely discussed.

>>34090896
Not really a bad sign if you consider the fact that ID3 was an insanely long amount of time compared to the gap between ID1 and ID2, and yet it was the best gen they had, numbers-wise, from that bunch.

>>34090869
to be fair there's way less dude chuubas out there and way less corpos out there that want them. It's impossible to tell if a girl who graduates is going to Holo or some scam 2 view startup

>>34090709
But they do.

>>34090896
The 12+ months wait period doesn't qualify as a bad sign?

>>34090925
Source: my heart

>>34090929
This. Seriously, if those candidates become EN3 they are gonna tank harder than Council.

>>34090863
>easy 20k
nah, non-gura 20K is rare
pico had 8 people and only got 27K

>>34090937
I get your point but fuck if the EN branch isn't in greater need of new blood than JP.

>>34090709
Yes

>>34090961
Maybe Cover just cares about the quality more than Anykara?

>>34090892
they're all in jakarta
the least religious city in the whole country
they're all muslim on paper i'm sure, because it's required to be in a religion by their constitution

>>34090945
Yeah i have no fucking clue who they are gonna get for StarsEN2 if they had to scrape the bottom of the 2view barrel for Altare and Axel.

>>34091012
Cover will only expand the roster of branches that have a future.

>>34090971
You have a beautiful heart, anon. This ain't the place for you

>>34091054
Then they should've stopped expanding JP at gen 4.

>>34091054
Yagoo says otherwise

>>34090869
Predicting a candidate for HomoEN was pulling from the equivalent of a kiddie pool. There just weren't that many realistic prospects to choose from in general.
HoloEN proper, there are literally hundreds of possible candidates to choose from. I only ever saw literally one girl get picked up from HoloEN that was predicted pre-debut on /vt/.
>>34090929
>>34090984
the "candidates" that get thrown around for EN3 are literally the same rejects that got thrown around for EN1 and EN2 as doompost topics, I'm pretty sure that they'll never actually even try to be corpo.

>>34091040
>they're all in jakarta
The entire indonesian population, you mean?

>>34090892
I mean, there are Jews in Indonesia so it can't be that hard.

>>34091049
Realistically now that tempus isn't a total flop that might lead to a little bit of added interest in dudes being chuubas

>Today I will remind them
>EN3 was Tempus

>>34090737
probably anon talking about this, I only found this clipper don't know about the other
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSZUzneQWYyYsISh6HgUzA

>>34091003
20k for en with no gura is a way higher bar than people realize.

>>34090925
This is numbers thread

i'll be honest, jp6 is looking like the first gen that's going to crash and burn if jp7 comes out

>>34091111
>isnt a total flop

>>34090709
I like songs when the girls make me wet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLQQD3Ok0Uk
Suisei, lap, shion trio going on a song when? Probably the sexiest voices

>>34091049
>2view
Axel was like a 1view, he only had 1K subscribers

Can Bae stop screaming randomly?

>>34091040
>they're all in jakarta
Lmao no

>>34091040
Are you indo anon?

>>34089999
All this EN3 speculation only for an ID vsinger in the end

>>34091011

>>34091049
Are we calling it scraping now? I'm soured on Tempus now, but I thought it was cool that Cover considered 2views. Some humbleness, you know?

>>34091156
Jesus, they really wanted to fill that JP speaker quota huh

>>34090623
I wanted a hero theme, but now I want one based on Anime genres. One Girl with a Mecha, a cool battle girls or a magical girl for an example

>>34091040
>it's required to be in a religion by their constitution

>>34091049
Axel makes sense as the obligatory bilingual that lives in JP-ish timezone
You know, someone omegagay can actually talk to directly without resorting to ESLness

>>34091180
only half. been there in the early 90's

>>34091170
Are we watching the same stream? It's putting me to sleep with how comfy it is

>>34091193
I mean, how else are they gonna communicate with StarsJP?

>>34091193
It is mandatory that every generation of every non-JP branch has a JP speaker, there has never been a generation that defied this order.

lower peak but better average ccv than the first collab

Anon's starting making up shit now.....

>>34091183
/vt/ would burn down.

Yikes, 50 people here just regurgitating the same talking points in the past 3 hours. You must be bored so come over to r/hololive, we're more fun there.

>>34091230
Why would they want to communicate with a bunch of 3view shitters?

>>34090929
one of those on that list is graduating right now, usami

>>34091145
Hey!
No one believed any of them would break 2k average CCV and many predicted they'd be sub 1k on debut.

>>34091177
Are they all in jawa at least?
None are from Aceh or Papua Nigeria that's for sure.

>>34090762
Looks like a placeholder desu. Idk if it's only on my end but it's looks blurry asf.

>>34091143
I blame laplus. Iroha just has the shakes or something and Chloe had ghost problems. Lui and Koyo are fine additions to hololive

>>34091145
Compare to StarJP, anon
Don't be like that

>>34091183
>ID vsinger
Any candidate even?

>>34091260
Yeah, I am a regular in r/hololive and there are more fun there than here.

>>34091237
ID3

>>34091054
Explain uproar then. JPstars from the outside look like a Yakuza scam. How do they even stay afloat to operate is beyond me.

>>34091224
She did it just now.

>>34091265
Which doomed minor corpo is she heading to?

>>34091323
Yes, I too am a regular in r/hololive and I agree it's more fun there

>>34091183
ID Stars
Would they even beat illuna

>>34091238
Well it was on Inas channel this time so this was a huge recline

>>34091326
What's it really cost to operate though, outside of the initial marketing campaign and models?

>>34091215
No wonder the thread is shit right now

>>34091315
Rainych

>>34091271
They're getting there...

>>34090857
Wrong...

>>34091260
I'm good. Already done my daily downvoting reps.

>>34091350
>HomoID
Yagoo, you fucking rat bastard, now you even want to steal the Fool's Gold Tally, too?

>>34091295
Lui & Koyo is the real dynamic duo. One solo stream monster, and one collab monster. And both put in the hours.

>>34091193
He probably got picked because he sorta sounds like a yankee when he speaks Japanese.

>>34091260
I bet you were raised by a single mother

>>34091351
Definitely more engagement there than here. /vt/ is kinda slowly dying.

>>34091274
8 of them yes.

>>34091203
This, Axel seems like he was hired specifically because he speaks JP. Seems they want at least one per gen.

>>34091271
>>34091307
Why do I always get you two replying to my posts. Its always the exact same.

>>34091350
I don't think there will ever be an ID Stars. Cover wants to keep ID as swing girls for StarsJP and StarsEN.

>>34091040
Risu is Catholic IIRC

>>34091326
Even with god awful CCV, Holostars make s a ton of money. They have insane oil barons there

>>34091049
There're some graduated 2views with good singing voice like Chimon though

>>34091238
It got funneled from a Sameame collab stream last time. The lack of anything before this stream lowered it's potential peak but upped its floor.

>>34091351
We sure get into some wild stuff over there. Sometimes I get so absorbed in thinking of collab ideas and how to break down idol culture that I forget to watch streams!

>>34091359
Yes PT 2 of shit tends to be like that. Also the first time they got a Gura funnel.

>>34091410
That is literally why the hired him we have a direct quote from Yagoo saying that is what he wanted

>>34091335
no idea, she just said she didn't have time anymore but then followed that up with maybe you will find me again

>>34091422
>/vt/ is kinda slowly dying.
I genuinely wish that it were closer to Spring 2021 numbers than 2022 numbers

>>34091449
It's fun, I'm bored, and I don't REALLY feel like shitposting when things are mostly chill in /#/.

>>34091238
They had a monster funnel from a near 30k Amesame stream that day.

>>34091474
>singing
This isn't HoloJP, there is absolutely zero fucking market for Japanese cover singers in the West.

>>34091326
They have loyal paypigs. Same thing with noripro where everybody except tamaki is a 3view but they all get an insane amount of superchat

>>34091532
IRyS...

>>34091482
>Part 2
>10 months ago
Most people probably forgot there even was a Part 1

>>34091453
How you feeling on ID vsinger odds? ID vgamer?

cripple tally is pathetic at this point

>>34091493
Oh, well yea that explains that. Shame he's got such bad taste in games.

>>34091481
That's what clips are for!

>>34091378
For starters a salary for the talents and management. Don't get me wrong I know they do sell things but I don't think it's nearly enough to sustain a suitable income for all involved.

>>34091568
Case in point.

>>34091568
Casen Pointe.

>>34091449
Idk anon
Maybe because I never once see a good post with Pekora attached to it

>>34091574
>he says, on the first sub-30k global tally in months

>>34091532
Amalee?

>>34091574
Because Susan crippled EN numbers, why don't you correct for the cull before shitting on it?

>>34091574
What about Raspberry tally tho?

>>34091183
If they hire an ID Suisei, I'll take it

>>34091482
>>34091567
Fish Tank...

>>34091606
>>34091609
Sasuga hivemind.

>>34091624
Both tallies are pathetic

>>34091532
You said this when Shayne Orok exist

>>34091573
Why always ID?? Why can't there be a Malaysian Hololive branch instead?

>>34090036
Botan on the tally with a 20-minute stream, nice.

>>34091573
>ID vsinger
Just put your music marketing and money behind Kobo
>ID vgamer
Cover seems to have zero interest in the Vgamer route for some reason. VSPO already beat them to the punch.

>>34091661
Now you're just mad both are Holo sweeps

>>34091453
>Cover wants to keep ID as swing girls for StarsJP and StarsEN.
Based YAGOO outsourcing his StarCollab economy to 3rd world countries
Truly Japan tech company 101

>>34091407
Why is it so hard to put in the hours, especially in the first year before you get bogged down by idol reps and sponsorships

>>34091389
She has more subscribers than any Holo except Gura and regularly gets million-view videos. Why would she bother?

Let's bring up Niji EN numbers shall we?

>>34091718
The Fool's Gold tally is certainly one way to keep NijiEN relevant this month

>>34091666
I said West, retardbro. He's SEA.

>>34091568
Anon, you're not fucking helping yourself here ...

>>34091465
>>34091559
Everyone whos a big streamer always says super chats or donations are the bottom of the barrel of what you make. Because youtube takes half and assuming Cover takes half of that. So those red akasupas you see only 25% actually get to the streamer.

>>34091559
Norio is one cold hearted business woman. I can't help but respect her devotion to the parasocial idol dream

>>34091706
More sponsorship, money etc. Hell, she could even keep her RM as a side job. Double income.

>>34091703
Because some of them are like Lapu and never even intended to commit to the job.

>>34091706
Because Yagoo has more resources than her tiny ID ass can have. Heck, even Reine's family can outright give Rain a mainstream opportunity

>>34091315
I hope it's someone who can metal scream like Aoi Sora (generic name I know),
We don't have that type yet
>>34091453
>I don't think there will ever be an ID Stars. Cover wants to keep ID as swing girls for StarsJP and StarsEN
Sadly this is true. HoloID is a bunch of collab accessories for HoloEN and StarsEN. I don't know what StarsID could give in exchange. I can only rely on indie chuubas to grow the local market, but sadly viral Holos like Kobo don't want to collab with small indie chuubas and share her fame with them. Wasting her viral buff for someone who don't even need it/can't use it like Regis, Gamma and Kiara

J
>>34091389
Heh I remember the old Rainych rrats

>>34091696
Maybe this'll be up that anon's alley >>34089151
Niji sweep baaaby

Which HoloEN has had the most cum spilled over them, objectively?
And which NijiEN, same question?

>>34091295
>ghost problems
Just call a schizo a schizo anon

>>34091767
Cover is cursed by their rising stars not giving a shit about the job.

>>34091792
Thank god Anya is building a raft to holoJP

>>34091834
Me
Also me

>>34091834
Kronii.
Literally every female

>>34091760
Youtube takes 30%, anon. and then the remaining is split 50/50 between Cover and the talent (so 30%YT, 35% cover, 35% talent).

>>34091792
ID is a stronger branch than EN right now

>>34091829
EN only? Pretty sure main branch has actual 2views

Cover intern here, 20 mins until EN3 reveal.

>>34091295
>>34091407
do you guys not care about quality at all?

>>34091852
They're in the same situation as Nijisanji, stagnant and haven't produced a big hit outside of their EN branch since 2019, it just doesn't seem as apparent because they have multiple bigger stars from 2019 compared to Nijisanji

>>34091893
It's not fun if we let NijiJP get serious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkR2riF2fuA
Talk about clip
Beside that Magni get btfo by Moona one,
This one's also doing decent

>>34091767
I don't know if it's true that Cover doesn't mind if they use hololive as a stepping stone but just feels bad for the 2views that would love to be a part of holo

I wish real workplaces seperate males from females again, seeing my OL oshi talking to a nerdy IT guys makes my blood boil.

>>34091893
Yeah I made it EN only for the jokes, feel free to make a JP one tho, speaking of is there a site that tracks EN corpos?

>>34091631
A lot of her covers are her own English versions though.

>>34091908
>1pm in Tokyo
why though

please god, make it so that today is EN 3 reveal

>>34091882
HoloID is not 9 Kobos

>>34091913
I don't know what the sweet spot of quality and quantity is, but I don't think laplus is it, man

>>34091852
it's not really COVER's fault. They did a good job in the beginning and 0th-3rd gen carreid the fuck out of hololive. The ones after joined due to its popularity and you attract these leeches instead of passionate people

>>34091922
>haven't produced a big hit outside of their EN branch since 2019
Anon, I know you may have some number rot, but I can tell you this: Literally every member of HoloJP since 2020 began counts as a "big hit," except for Nene, Iroha and Aloe.

>>34091315
Poach pawapua from rememories

>>34091867
Either way, I still stand by my point that JPstars is most likely a money sinkhole for Cover. If they don't get paid a reasonable salary that is.

>>34091922
Ahem
Salome
Granted she didn't last long, but she was one hell of a hit when she was still relevant
(and she still recently had a 2M cover, albeit with a bunch of other nijis)

>ludwig reviewing vtuber chips
>no holos
uh, holobros? our mindshare?

>>34091957
Silhouette reveal today, model reveal thrusday, debut this weekend.

>>34091972
Nothing will happen today. When I wake up 8 hours from now I will not be greeted by news about anything of note. Just another day of holoJP streams and no holoEN streams.

>>34091937
It's all good if it's all professional, no?

>>34091999
>gen 5 and gen 6
>big hit
Utterly retarded statement, none of them are even Kuzuha-tier let alone Pekora/1st Army tier

>>34091933
not gonna watch homos

>>34092029
oh I thought it said vtuber clips but it's actual potato chips

>>34092057
This is like saying that there haven't been any big hits in music ever since the Beatles got big, anon, your scale of measurement is fucked.

>>34092057
>Botan
>Lamy
>Chloe
Also Koyori is inclining.

>>34092003
Nah.
They might have been back before 2020, but honestly at 200+ average CCV, they're all profitable over being profit negative, especially after merch and concert stuff gets factored in.

>>34090623
>So what's everyone's favorite theme they've seen suggested for EN3 so far?
Slimegirls

>>34092029
I mean... There's like hundreds of food products with holos on them in nipland. It would be hard not to come across one if he was doing Vtuber-only stuff.

>>34092057
>let alone Pekora/1st Army tier
just like the rest of industry

bae on screen

>>34091989
might be cope, but she might start to stream more at some point.

>>34092146
>Opens Ina's stream
>Ending screen
lol

>>34092057
"they're not in the top 5 of the industry"
great insight anon

>>34091937
Eh, that's like 1 out of 100 times
the other 99 are either with illiterate caveman or actual hags
t.IT guy

>>34092089
What's fucked is you trying to lower the threshold of what counts as a hit as if no one can ever clear it again when Gura has and probably the rest of EN too if they weren't so crippled by Susan.

>>34090623
I genuinely like the idea of Fables being the theme for the next gen.

>>34092029
all that connor dick sucking couldn't event get mori canned cake on ludwig's stream

>>34091674
>Vgamer
That's Kaela.
>>34092003
Anon, other than the initial cost for design, L2D, and 3D, it costs nothing to maintain a vtuber. StarJP already profitable from a long time ago. They will get their own paid concert sometime later this year with new 3D outfits.

>>34092159
Yeah, she will stream more on her RM account

>>34092146
Why are there so many fucking Indian streams

>>34092057
>Koyori got 26k and the bronze today

>>34092057
What's the amount of time they get before they're written off? Subaru took a long time to hit her current stride, didn't she? Even pekora had a rough start. I actually like that being in hololive means you have the relative security to slowly find yourself as a content creator. Shame about the talents that use that time to coast or build up their rm though.

>>34092029
He watched a bit of Noel and Kaela when he was browsing the livestream section of youtube a few days ago so that's something.

>>34092139
>>34092169
And that's why they're not big hits, thanks for agreeing.

>>34092219
No one is ever truly written off unless they themselves truly 'give up'.

>>34092179
You're the one trying to raise the bar to the very top of the ceiling, anon, I'm not trying to lower it by keeping it as it was.

>>34092228
I wish he'd actually be live at some point to catch a pekora stream but that will never happen. He's got a warped perspective of vtubers because he only ever sees the morning jp streams

>>34092092
Koyori's the strongest out of the ones you listed and even she can only barely compete thanks to collabs and buff games.

>>34090762
Holo 5th anniversary was 2+ weeks old new when they changed it. It's a palceholder.

Does Phase Connect count as a Full EN corpo?

>>34092166
Ludwig will continue to assume that the vtubing scene is a handful of 1k-5k streams and maybe one >10k outlier because he will never do these streams during JST hours.

>>34091930
>>34091954
It really is. Holol is just too far gone. Not even lofi is a contender anymore.

>>34092295
No they have JP chuubas even if they get shit views

FYI, kson currently has comparable CCV with pikamee on twitch
kson at ~2.7k
pikamee at ~2.4k

what EN3 needs is a loli who's bratty without having visible contempt for the audience, and good at FPS. maybe even a gunfag. maybe a frog theme, they haven't done that yet.

>>34092146
>Try to open stream
>Get blasted by like 2 fucking ads that has nothing to do with the stream
Nahone ...

>>34092314
or even during gura hours

>>34092337
This is just things you personally like.

>>34092219
It took a longer time for older gens to grow because the industry was smaller, anyone debuting in 2020 Japan onwards who can't hit 1 million subs within a year and dips below 10k CCV is a failure.

>>34092314
Someone just needs to get him to check a subaru stream on this weekend

>>34092337
rye AAAA

>>34092337

https://twitter.com/pj_sekai/status/1574594729777696769
>bottom of the barrel Niji
Well good for her I guess

>>34092337
I want a polar bear loli, is that too much to ask for?

>>34092275
Eh, it's better this way. Better that JP doesn't get smacked with a bunch of goddamn newfags who don't know their place.

>>34092369
You really need to go and watch some small corpos or indies and cure that numberrot you've got built up

>>34092357
Is he a west coaster? Those people are by far the most oblivious to the existence of the rest fo the world, hell even to the existence of the rest of their own country.

>>34092029

>>34092337
>Gunfag
That's a worthless trait. Cover is not going to let her do anything with that

>>34092335
Kson's viewership keeps dropping

>>34092283
shishiron and lamy are stronger than koyori, what are you talking about, it takes 3 seconds to check their medians: botan 14.7k, lamy 14.8k, koyori 13.6k

The strongest vtubers/holos are the ones that steel themselves and grow from solo content. Not collab bullshit. EN will never be successful because all they do is spam collabs.

What are the purely EN corpos or branches in YT?

>>34092092
Speaking of koyo the successor of pekora and miko, here some spicy pic of her.

>>34092183
Literal schizophrenia

>>34092361
Iono anon, I think anon is on to something. Handsome lad too.

>>34092283
isn't Botan the strongest, overall?

>>34092335
...and she just got raided

>>34092406
he's in LA metro area iirc

>>34092314
It's EN's fault for showing such an embarrassing number

>>34092412
Are you talking about nijiEN spamming collabs because holoEN doesnt

>>34092412
Remember when NijiEN was railing against HoloEN for never collabing, unlike their "true chemistry" vtubers?
Funny how that changed after Luxiem, huh

>>34092057
>Kuzuha tier
Fucking nigger Kuzuha is literally the biggest thing Nijisanji ever has alongside ROFMAO. He could still shit on every single male Tuber in every metric by doing nothing but playing League season 30 and shit on the entire Hololive effort combine with 1 random Koshien stream

>>34092423
KOYORI BRONZE?

>>34092406
Yes he's in California

>>34092219
Is it harder to take off slowly if you have a massive debut buff? It kind of feels like it. Who's managed to grow slowly after debuting to 100k in 2021/2022?

>>34092422
Because Nijisanji and Hololive are on YouTube

>Connor actually sent Ludwig condoms
KEK

>>34092314
Thats kinda funny. It's like a season long joke being built up

>>34092101
>>34092187
Eh, I guess you guys might be right. I was thinking on a scale of other smaller indies but Stars have resources waiting at foot and hand to market shit.

>>34092412
>HoloEN
>Spam collabs
Most baffling post I've read this year

>>34092433
this month is actually lamy thanks to rust

>>34092399
Why would I compare irrelevant small fry to vtubers from the two biggest vtubing corpos? They don't have the same clout or audience reach. Both Cover and AnyColor have just about failed to capitalize on the box that their early streamers created, their new gens have high debut buffs but quickly degenerate into low 10k/sub-10k shitters. Even Salome is on her way there.

>>34092361
I don't particularly like loli.

>>34092440
It's not even that, EN doesn't stream often enough to get caught in Ludwig's limited sampling in the first place.

>>34092426
he was opening a box of snacks from japan sent by cdawg

>>34092314
Will he kneel to pekora fgo numbers?

>>34092468
As others have said, Koyori has definitely found her stride after dropping off from debut.
Kaela too.

>>34092483
Now say that again without being a fagoot

>>34092482
Doesn't that tell you that you don't understand the market, if the two biggest players in it are succeeding by taking paths that you personally don't understand to be successful?

moom enter https://youtu.be/QBLg9R7YOd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBLg9R7YOd4

>>34092511
He doesn't know about them because he's still a newfag when it comes to youtube numbers. He only just discovered playboard on his stream two days ago

>>34092544
>>34092553
Mumei gold

>>34092527
Yeah, I was thinking about those two and also Anya.
It seems there's grow slowly vtubers like them, and there's "go viral" like Kobo or Luxiem, and everyone else is perpetual recline.

>Taimanin
Kek
Based Scottish man

>>34092220
and when was the last time she got those numbers? (not to mention the next.)

>>34092561
Someone needs to poke him with Hololive numbers then.

>>34092468
>Who's managed to grow slowly after debuting to 100k in 2021/2022?
like fucking 90% of debuts anon

>>34092577
Anya literally only gets numbers when streaming Rust.

>>34092389
... beatani? Maybe it is too much to ask for, anon

>>34092534
They're succeeding by pivoting outside of Japan, their actual successes all lie outside of Japan. Cover with Myth and ID3, and AnyColor with Luxiem. Their JP streamers are stagnant, the only spark of life in 2 years was Salome and that fizzled out in a fucking month.

>>34092409
>Loli Gunfag
>Fluent in JP, EN, and RU
>UOHing together with Gura
>Bonding with Botan
>Take shark to JP through Usada Faction
Unfortunately Omegay culture is a thing...

>Open twitter
>Tempus trying to do NijiEN shit by starting some retarded meme about toilet paper
>Close twitter

>>34092544
AHAHHAHAA GET FUCKED MORI

>>34092591
Idk looking at vrabi she got a couple 24ks and a 27k this past month. Doing buff content of course but still

>>34092625
Is this some kind of actual anti-JP schizo or something, that's weird.

>>34092676
Western men was a mistake, they're even worse than Western women

>>34092613
I think you forgot what were her numbers a year ago

https://twitter.com/GoodSmile_US/status/1574599984833503232
R

>>34092653
>Fluent in RU
Unironically a liability

>this is what /vt/ considers strong
lol
lmao even

>>34092530
I don't particularly mind loli.

>>34092708
A

>>34092703
It wasn't always this way...

>>34092748
P

>>34092653
That's not omega, that would be a Japan thing. Botan and Aruran are the only members that like guns FYI

I don't know, gen6 doesn't seem too bad to me

>she's still playing solo
Are those takos?

>>34092544
Why does she always do these with short frames with no warning before

>>34092676
Weak. The moment these retards followed rainbows, I unfollowed. Dont support the algo.

>>34092767
ok..

>>34092767
>2 holox are sub 10k growth

>>34092729
>JP
C mon now anon, you know /jp/ only look at CCV

>>34092767
Cmon now. Mogging council is like beating a cripple.

>>34092767
>Total views

EN3 doko?

>>34092787
HoloEN despises numbers, we will never see a world where their heavy hitters actively try and max out their CCV potential, they will always spend their time pandering to their hardcore audience over chasing the big audience numbers and we have to deal with that

>>34092838
then why are we acting like jp is this dying thing

>>34092767
I'm calling it now, koyo will be 1st army one day. Screenshot this.

>>34092767
How do we save laplus

>>34092767
Gotalu, get your shit straight, dont be like La+...

>>34092847
yes anon, you have a problem with that? is how they get their money

>>34092897
why save someone who's trying to actively kill themselves?

>>34092767
Green whore mogged by bae soon.
Also surprised mumei is growing the fastest

>>34092891
Thanks slowpoke.

>>34092767
Is Laplus graduating?

>>34092690
Based moom

>>34092874
>we
Anyone acting like either branch is some kind of dying thing is clearly just trying to cause fights

>>34092897
Rape correction is the only way

>>34092755
E

>>34092959
ok, but en is dying tho

>>34091407
It's a shame that they supposedly hate each other

>>34092977
I won't fight with you or your schizo equal-but-opposite, anon.

>>34092863
I don't know if I'd say EN panders to their hardcore audience, especially lately. Their most loyal yesman tho sure

>>34092847
Council only had a 4 month head start. Clealry unfair for those shitters, they need 6 at least

>>34092619

>>34092988
Spicy rrat, where did it come from?

>>34093009
Guess what, retard, "most loyal" and "hardcore" are almost synonyms.

>>34092897
By buying more expensive shit and then brag on rm

>>34092988
Where did this meme even come from. Lui has repeatedly talks about how she and Koyo go shopping together

>>34092988
apparently they don't since someone managed to source a bit of lui saying last month that koyori is the holox she talks behind the scenes the most with, which is kind of baffling since it doesn't translate to anything on camera, and it's nothing more than lui saying that's the case

>>34092690
She will be done before Mori though ? It's actually good for Mori, it will funnel to her stream.

Hey /#/ I just found a small indie, is it a babi or just a pinoy woman?

>>34092988
Which one slapped the other in front of Yagoo?

>>34089960
>>34090036
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>34093056
Imported garbage from 5ch I'm going to assume.

I don't watch JPs that much, qrd on Laplus?

I am seeing a lot of criticism of her during the last month or so (even in a certain site that the sisters use to seethe)?
Did something happen or is it the usual schizos trying to stir shit?

>>34093063
>koyori is the holox she talks behind the scenes the most with
Makes sense since the other three are so useless.

>>34092891
Well she is pegor and migo pet after all

>>34093029
>>34093056
>where did it come from
Take this link
https://wheelofnames.com/wtm-t3z
Spin the wheel twice
Fill in this blank:
>_ and _ hate each other

By the way I will come to harvest that anon's balls if EN3 isn't announced today like he claimed.

>>34093056
i mean, it's a pretty easy rrat to spin considering their only one on one was pretty bad and they're never invited to each other's collabs

>>34093187
It's already past midnight in EST, anon, go find those balls

>>34093107
Iirc she's been becoming very active on her roommate and collabing with fps e-celebs.

>>34093056
Threadskimmers who buy rrats.
Here's mine: they are two very active hags with different approach to content so they go their own ways.

>>34092029
It's hard to find Holo products.
They are always sold out.
Scalpers also put 100% mark up on them.

>>34093107
She's menhera, streams a lot in her RM and treats Holo as a side job, erratic behaviour and few streams in her first year and she's obsessed with "dunkin' on those haters" which feedback their hatred towards her

>>34093140
wtf, i didn't know Fauna hate Matsuri

You guys complain a lot but if you had the chance to fuck a Holo or a Niji you'd take it in a heartbeat, EN or JP or even ID

>>34092562
Another HoloSweep?
Hololive is too strong

>>34093107
Come on, anon, we only go through 10 threads a day. Do your reps and keep up with the class

While you wait for numbers, witness retardation in its maximum expression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhGo4RpVhyI

>>34090606
too good to be true

>/#/ talks about EN 3
>Got immediately recommend this
Kek

>>34093275
Anon, at this point I would fuck even (you) as long as you are clean

>>34093140
Lmay hates Botan? That can't be...no...not ShiShiLamy

>>34093259
There's a jp Mori???

>>34092729
lol nice job hiding how long it was and what happened.