/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33847626
She's a well meaning person but has had a lot of yabs and doesn't really seem like someone you'd like to have around.

>>33847626
I only hate her because I want to hatefuck her and I want there to be real emotion behind it (she needs to hate me too)

>>33847626
She is a nice girl but too emotional. Is like a ticking bomb ready to happen even to her loved ones.

>>33847696
She made good content years ago but she's kinda... tame now? At least not wild enough to constantly clog my recommendeds with clips of her.

>>33847626
No. Good girl. Doesn't understand boundaries. Just like me.

JP fans probably hate her more

>>33847626
She saved hololive from obscurity, all those who aren't thankful should leave.

>>33847696
>lot of yabs
I only remember the hand, Luna and Haato yabs. Sure, she could handle those yabs a bit better but I don’t think she did anything bad. Her reactions were understandable.

>>33847861
Yeah, especially after the hand drama which is weird since she doesn’t do gfe. Those damn unicorns.

>>33847900
nihao hololivemoments and bilibili wants to have a word

>>33847626
She's unironically not far from vshojo tier in attitudes/lying fuckery/yabs.

I wouldn't care if she didn't promote herself as an "idol", but she does still sometimes, and that only serves to tarnish the collective image of Holo and by association the ones putting in a lot of effort to try to actually have a clean idol take (like aqua).

>>33847626
No. Just a lot of threadreaders that contradict each other a lot. Matsuri played a big role in Hololive's popularity in the early days, but faded when she got obsessed with Apex. 2020 was a really rough year for her mentally which caused the obsession.

>>33847626
She is really funny but over and over she has proven to be a pest to her coworkers.

>>33847626
It's mostly just newfags who only took notice of Matsuri when the board was targeting her. They took the bait and rrats seriously and honestly claim the recent "yabs" destroyed her. Hell, even anons who still talk about Matsuri and Luna don't even realize it was Luna who came onto Matsuri.

>>33848176
Really? Never heard that part of the story. Makes me feel even worse for Matsuri. She seems like a good girl underneath it all. No one activates my savior neurons like matsuri

>>33847626
>Tried to steal a kiss from Pekora
Thank god Marine was there

>>33847626
>Frequently collabs with the Stars
>Frequently collabs with Nijisanji
>Extreme menhera
>Called out Haachama on stream
>Whore
Are there any reason not to hate her?

>>33848039
She is one of the few genuine idols in Hololive. What lies did she make in the past?

>>33848106
She is just too emotional.

>>33848267
Rapeable roomate?

>>33848312
Already used goods.

>>33847626
She can go mehera and publish info about different between her and other holomemb, that why she have that reputation.

>>33848267
>Called out Haachama on stream
Understandable, no offense to any Haatons in this thread.

>>33847861
I wouldn't call most of those Hololive fans since they follow Narukami so religiously

She had some big yabs and her attitude can be really menhera at times, but what really killed her popularity was the apex spam, it made her unwatchable

>>33847626
The only people who used to hate Matsuri on this board were haatons, and matsurisu used to hate them too
99% of any bait about either prior to January 2022 was made by either fanbases.
But now afaik matsurisu love haachama and haatons love matusri.
If you're talking about thr usual # bait then those are made by numberniggers who are already subhuman so they don't count as "people"

>>33848592
is this true?>>33848247

>>33848668
I don't think so, but I wouldn't put it beyond her
She felt up nene, felt up haachama, felt up many many other holos, she's a raging bisexual who is very attracted to those who give her attention

>>33848668
She got very touchy with Pekora early on and pushed Pekora way past her comfort zone. Pekora generally doesn't like touching in general too. Since then they get along well though.

>>33848247

>>33847949
the haato yab was haato's fault and we don't really know if she was at fault with her and Luna's relationship.

>>33848386
I don't think haatons should feel offended by it because both haachama and Matsuri are at fault here for what happened, I don't think people understand how big of a menhera haachama was before 2021 and how much of a MASSIVE menhera she became during 2021, but she did the right thing and distanced herself away from pretty much all holos, if you look at the amount of collabs on 2021 they don't even come close to a most months this year
Haachama was at fault at first but Matsuri shared this fault with her once she did what she did

>>33848865
What actually happened there? Did they have a falling out in stream or was it just sudden zero contact like pekomiko?

>>33847626
There is a hand

>>33847626
Overexaggerated hate. Unforgettable yabs. More or less similar to Kiara's situation. Don't formulate your opinion based on that though, watch her and judge her by yourself

>>33848865
>we don't really know if she was at fault with her and Luna's relationship.
lol lmao
https://youtu.be/JonQ09L2N0U

>>33848924
With who? Luna? Luna just started ignoring her but I'm fairly certain that matusri kept trying to get close to her, though Luna kept ignoring her until recently I guess?

>>33849039
Wtf this breaks my heart

>>33848924
Timeline (Let me know if I forget something)
Matsuri asked Gen 1 to do a concert (From 1st)
They agreed and everything went really well
The concert ate up a lot of the time that was for Matsuri's birthday.
Matsuri asked Gen 1 if they would help afterwards and they agreed.
Haachama ghosted Matsuri after this
Sometime during this Rushia asked Haachama for her 3d live, and she agreed
Matsuri didn't know until she saw Haachama on stage
Matsuri's mental state completely broke down
*It's important to note she broke down because she thought Haachama hated her
She mentioned it on Twitter, and within hours she issued an official apology, stating it would be handled internally
Haachama agreed to appear in the birthday anyway, but it was handled really awkwardly by management. Didn't help that the live was low quality due to From 1st
Thanks to these two being numbskulls, they both thought the other hated each other and stopped all contact
As soon as an opportunity arose, Haachama's computer broke, they quickly became friends again about half a year later

>>33849039
Ah I fucking remember this, completely absolutely 10000% ignored by hime... It wasn't because of this though, this happened after I think

>>33849151
I was asking about Matsuri and Luna actually. I always wondered what happened there because I felt bad for Matsuri. But thank you for the high effort timeline

>>33849161
Completely ignored? That just seems really fucking cold...

>>33849241
I might be wrong... But I THINK the Luna and Matsuri fallout was just because of a menhera breakdown Matsuri had because Luna forgot what her birthday date was or something like that, it was during a quiz made by chocosen and I guess Luna couldn't be assed so she simply started ignoring her, worse than pekomiko since both pekora and Miko kind of ignored each other while Luna and Matsuri was kind of one sided

>>33849161
The Lunaitos and Matsurisu agreed that it likely happened a few weeks before the video. I forget the reasoning though

>>33847626
she molests her colegues constantly.

>>33849334
What about the Matsuri and Pekora thing?

>>33849241
No one really knows, but they had a big fight off stream. Something about a broken promise. Luna was already firmly going after Subaru for nearly a year before it happened so it wasn't romantic drama though.

>>33849685
>firmly going after Subaru
It’s so dumb. Subaru doesn’t feel the same way towards Luna.

>>33849625
Pekora doesn't hate Matsuri or anything like that, she interacts with her given the chance obviously but like other anons said matsuri is very touchy and doesn't mind copping a feel uninvited, pekora on the other hand isn't a fan of that stuff and Matsuri can't really catch these cues so she'll keep pushing for what she wants, other than that I don't think there's anything between them really, not to thr pekomiko point of course.
I'm pretty sure that that she did in fact kiss haachama at one point

>>33849773
What happened with PekoMiko?

>>33849741
??? I can never tell who in Hololive is actually just business shipping and who's actually a raging lesbo. I assumed Luna was put off by matsuri coming on too strong romantically

>>33849773
I don't think Matsuri goes after Pekora anymore like that, but she definitely pushed Pekora too far early on. Surprisngly, I feel like Pekora is comfortable with Matsuri these days

>>33849870
Everything except OkaKoro is kayfabe

>>33849039
It's actually a really good cover

>>33849896
Their rust stuff was pretty kino

Matsurisu will always stick by her even if she creates problem for herself coz that's how she is. Her viewership might dwindle coz not everything she does is super buff or carefully planned but she will always have a respectable amount
She has a good base to incline quite easily whenever she wants but its good to see she is preferring her mental health over stress

>>33849896
>pushed Pekora too far
But what did she do?

>>33847626
she is fine, yes a little perv but thats pretty common among vtubers, her only problem is that she is a habit person, she have to add more variety to her streams to get more people, but she will be fine like she is right now for a while.

>>33849896
I wish the best for matsuri, my favorite moment was when PekoMatsu were messing with Aki in rust

>>33850123
Just touching I think. Pekora was too shy to tell her no back then and Matsuri can be bad at reading people. Marine had to step in and separate them after it went on too long

>>33850237
When did that happen?

>>33847626
Mind you, most of the JP girls have some kind of a yabe attached to them, so they all have some kind of haters
When I see her, all I see is a girl for whom I will do everything to keep her smile (others would do the same for other girls)

PS: Hate was mostly on her choice of content and numberfags using her low viewership to shitpost

>>33850333
Marine is yabless.

This might be an unpopular opinion but while people call Matsuri the biggest menhera in hololive, she doesn't hold a candle to how menhera haachama was prior to this year

>>33850264
2019?

>>33847626
Mama matsuri won’t spank her

>>33850367
>Marine and Miko manga author yabe
>Marine suing 5ch user for defamation

everyone has something which people can use and hate

>>33850391
I didn't even know she was menhera. Literally all I know about her is the eldritch abomination stuff and that she did wacky shit when she got demonetized. Are you saying it wasnt all kayfabe?

>>33847626
More like indifference or could be people sometimes forget about her.
She is barely mentioned in /vt/, from /here/ standards could be a good thing. Unless is a general threat. Don't recall one of her in this board for a long time thou.

>>33850432
How did Marine stop Matsuri exactly?

>>33850543
>Marine suing 5ch user for defamation
Source? What crap did they do to her?

>>33847626
>Is there a reason to hate Matsuri?
How many of you ready it as
>Is there a reason to date Matsuri?

>>33850801
https://youtu.be/dsUsWW5CaAc?t=311

>>33847626
She frequently does male collabs… she’s part of the reasons male collabs are now so prevalent in hololive EN… so yeah a lot of us hate her

>>33847626
shes kinda crazy and doesn't handle stress and criticism all that well at least in the past that was the case people can change so she might have gotten her shit together since last year.

>>33847626
She made a mockery of hololive when she became the butt of the joke at nijisanji, no one respects her there, they used to make fun of her at any given opportunity because if her infatuation with Hoshikawa, and she kept coming back just for Hoshikawa.
It was like a teenager going to school to be bullied 24/7 because he wants to see his rush whom she feels indifferent about.
If you think holoEN fans and nijiEN fans are like cats and dogs, you haven't seen what holo Jp fans and nijiJP fans are like when they're at each other's throats, especially on sites like 2ch and 5ch and because of that those sites started hating festival, and it seeped into other forums and other sites alike and eventually jp started antiing her, but it's calmed down since the start of this year I'd say?

>>33850667
It's threadreader shit. Haachama's been pretty open about her emotional journey and it's nothing out of the ordinary for a girl who was isolated in a foreign country with no friends all through high school, other than that her writing style can be pretty dramatic. She's always demonstrated a high level of emotional maturity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHtXI2PSvoQ
Here she talks about her time with her host family. Notice how much time she dedicates to trying to see things from their perspective. That's not menhera behavior.
Even her big hiatus, which started understandably dramatically, was in big part her realizing she spent many of her formative years streaming and having barely any normal social life, stepping away from Hololive, and focusing on making friends her age in Japan and doing normal girl things.
It was that time period that Matsuri failed to line up her schedule to get Haachama on her live and had a public Twitter meltdown when Haachama appeared on Rushia's, which was resolved literally as soon as she got in touch with Haachama in private.

>>33852473
I dunno man, the more I read the more I just feel bad for Matsuri. Her menhera seems of a particularly pitiable kind. It just sounds really sad listening to more and more stories about her one-sidedly caring about someone and then getting ignored. I get that it's on her, but that doesn't make me feel any better about it. Adding in her being the subject of mockery from both Nijifans and Holofans just breaks my heart.
I wanna save her...

>>33852947
strongest idol

>>33853114
I think she's fine nowadays though

>>33853204
That's good. From little bits I've seen of her in clips it does seem like she's doing a lot better. I hope the best for her

>>33853114
because she doesn't have the bad kind of mental illness, she gets attached too hard and it backfires on her, she never wanted to hurt anyone, she just can't control her emotions too well
but it's been getting much much better nowadays, though her obsession with hoshikawa is just as it was, never changing

>>33847626
menhera

>>33853204
Well yeah, she's basically on her own.

>>33847696
>doesn't really seem like someone you'd like to have around.
I'd love to have her around for endless marathon sex. Model or roommate I don't care they both hot.

>>33847626
She stopped doing piss holding streams, I will never forgive her for this.

>>33854169
>though her obsession with hoshikawa is just as it was, never changing
Who can blame her for that one though? Hoshikawa emits a pheromone that drives everybody in her vicinity to crave sex with her.

>>33860437
>Who can blame her for that one though?
oh definitely not me, I never did blame her for any of the stuff she did to try and grab more of her attention and affection, because if I was in matsuri's shoes I would've done the same if not more
hoshikawa is absolutely worth it

>>33847626
It was ZE HANDO

I just hate whores, simple as

>Be Matsuri
>Fall in love with a girl that likes dick
>Constantly rejected by her
>Cry on twitcasts and make such a huge drama to a point some people start hating your love interest because your menhera attacks
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
>Get completely outclassed by a tomboy with a sexy onee-san voice
>Meet a qt 3.14 pro apex player
>Actually get him to coach you
>The tournament is your chance to impress him and win him over
>End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>Cry and suffer the whole time
>Met another qt in the after games, a spaghetti spilling weatherman
>You actually try to be seiso instead of the degenerate everyone is used to
>Have the time of your life
>He never calls you back
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account
>The princess finally acknowledges you
>But to this day she didn't like your video

>>33847626
Gave me a bandaid fetish

>>33847626
Coalburner.

>>33847696
>doesn't really seem like someone you'd like to have around.
Ah so she’s a lot like you

>>33860316
Do you think you'd enjoy a clingy, pushy woman?
>Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” (...)
Luke 23:34

>>33861140
If she looks like Matsuri's roommate it's a decent trade off.

Matsuri pretends to be a whore but she'll have the most embarrassing sperg out if a girl she likes irl touches her hand

>>33860935
/thread

>>33860935
I didn't post this because while it's true, it's just emphasized for dramatic effect but yeah this is pretty much it

>>33860935
Heartbreaking.. hard to believe that before gen3 debutted she was seen as the most responsible and talented in hololive and people was touting her to follow the footsteps of sora

>>33847626
Some anons hate Matsuri because they are dumb enough to believe a copypasta that is basically just sensationalism

I don't care about her streams but she still has good clips and interactions with other members, I don't even care if she lied about za hando because she's too cute to hate

>>33861233
No one even knows Matsuri is a glass cannon anymore it feels like

>>33861589
I used to watch and follow her back then but the APEX spam was really, really fucking bad and made me drop her altogether, like, ok I can deal with the drama and how much of a 'tard she can be at times, but the boring steams jesus christ...they would never fucking stop, iirc she was doing 3views at some and still didn't give a fuck

>>33847626
The only thing I can think about when I see her Is when her roomate said she is into gagging (as in by cock in throat) which tirns me on

>>33861686
I don't really think people on this board actually hate her, they might say they do but when it comes down to it they really don't, unlike the nips who feel pretty strongly about her
I'm personally a lover of the entirety of Gen 1

>>33861797
>when her roomate said she is into gagging
I'm going to need sauce on this one

>>33860935
You can add to this that her roommate account follows Noel's roomate and faps/donates to her

>>33861869
She has literally worked with Noel's roommate.

>>33860935
Dude...goddamn

>>33861851
Tried to find it but failed, it was a translated clip of her roomate talking about how anything vanilla is a turn off and that she is into gagging or gaggo as she said it

>>33861869
I think they even collabed on merch, they work together
This next comment isn't directed at you anon but I feel like there has been a huge increase in newfags on this board ngl, everyone should know all of this about Matsuri by now

>>33860935
I can believe threadreaders believe this. Most of it takes fun encounters and reinterprets them in the worst way possible though. I'll just take one example out of it.
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
As much as this collab was memed on, Roberu was having fun during the collab. It was just completely improvised so Roberu wasn't able to keep up at times. He talked about it on stream afterwards and later even accepted to do a song with Matsuri. The two have never really been close and even Fubuki doesn't do 1 on 1 collabs with Roberu

>>33862227
I don't know man, not saying you are lying but I feel like something like that wouldn't be all that hard to find a clip of.

>>33849685
>>33849741
Luna very clearly does not view Subaru in a romantic way irl, they're just good friends. The way Matsuri talks about how she felt about Festival Luna gives off far more intense feelings, I'd be willing to believe the whole break off happened because Matsuri crossed a line behind the scenes that Luna couldn't stand for but that it wasn't too negative for them to actually greatly dislike each other.

>>33862272
Besides the usual tourists that drama brings with, most of /vt/ is EN only so it's kind of a sad normal that they've no idea about the rest of the chuubas market

>>33862489
Matsuri has specifically said she would never date a Holo and the end of the arc is literally calling Luna her sister

>>33847626
she's the hard-working type of menhera who's aiming to fix her head and just for that i cannot hate her, especially when her exco-workers were the polar opposite.

>>33862272
The board got infested once council debuted, hence councilshitters.
The EOPs that came with myth were either those who were already watching jp and to a certain degree kept up with them, and those who were new actually put some effort to learn more about them even if it's just clips and whatnot, however councilshitters are the fucking worst, EOPs who couldn't give two shits about jp and never even bothered to learn

>>33862489
hell even recently she shows she still feels strongly about luna. The birthday wish for example and that she kept sneaking glances at luna during the summer festival.

>>33862489

>>33862604
>Matsuri has specifically said she would never date a Holo
That does not mean much when you consider the menehara, i also remember her discussing this with luna right after saying she doesn't views her as more than a friend around two years ago. When Festival Luna was in full swing, Matsuri burst into tears over how great it was to have someone like Luna in her life and how she never wanted to lose her, https://youtu.be/ZPhcwi__zTE
Most hopeful scenario is that they mutually agreed not to speak to interact too often but that's obviously not the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9349scgClQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH5ilfa8HZo

>>33863192
The nostalgia

She's a good girl but she's also one of the biggest menhera in Hololive.

I think the moment I genuinely started believing that festival is a very sweet and caring girl is when she started really interacting with haachama again, people tend to forget this but even before their first collab after a long time... People tend to forget that Matsuri tweeted that she talked with haachama on discord after she got vaxxed so the collab wasn't their first time interacting since THAT day but you can tell how much she cares about haachama, when she calls in to her totsus, when she was there when she hot 1.4 million, when she was late to the summer festival and Matsuri logged in specifically to reload the fireworks for haachama to see, if you watch her streams she talks about haachama very endearingly but always stops when she fdeeks like she's become too overbearing, I think she enjoys calling her haato not because she "doesn't like it when others give themselves nicknames" but because she wants to feel special for her as the only one who calls her that.
Its really sweet and cute

>>33847626
She's a coalburner

>>33863192
>>33863232
Those were good times.
https://youtu.be/cHPKgVvzwM0

Matsuri is one of my gateway Holos and I can explain this with a lot of clarity.

>Unironically menhera, not haha cute way, but actually causes problems for other Holos way.
>Molests girls, again not in a haha cute way, but actually going beyond the line of what some girls are comfortable with way, like Pekora.
>Went Gosling for Fubuki to the point of Fubuki having to take a step back
>Then when Luna may have actually been willing to reciprocate her Gosling, dropped everything to chase Hoshikawa Sara
>Was a period where she did nothing but Apex, but was bad at it unlike Aqua so it was just shit to watch
>Collabs with males frequently
>Aired her shit out in the open with Haachama
>ZA HANDO
>Hired Lyger, who we all know will snap one day and kill her
That's not to say anybody HATES her, I mean Fubuki and she are still on friendly terms and have collabs, same with Luna, but it's widely accepted that Matsuri is not to be trusted alone with say, Pekora or one of the more intorverted Holos. Males are a major debuff, as is Apex spam.

>>33849241
>>33849334
>>33849685
Matsuri SAYS she loves girls all the time but really Hoshikawa Sara takes priority over everyone, including Luna. She's just not serious, or not as serious as she is about Hoshikawa.

>>33864508
The old claim to watch them routine I see

>>33864829
Shut up Lyger, you haven't translated shit in a year and when you finally put Festivals head on your mantlepiece, it'll be just another example of how mentally ill your kind is.

FESTIVALUNA LOVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGin-B-RpO0

>>33860316
Understandable. Her 3D model is the hottest Hololive model hands down.

>>33847720
this desu, because I not only think she's a whore, she wants to be act like a whore yet not treated like one.

Festival is for sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfzLwBgxyIk

>>33860935
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1357609915490029569
Strange that her tweets are still there and his aren't.

>>33847626
She bullied her brother for no reason

Just how pretty is Hoshikawa to make Matsuri so willing to degrade herself for her?

>>33862604
This is just copium on Matsuri's part.

Basically, Luna liked Matsuri as a friend and appreciated her because Luna felt isolated from the rest of Holo whereas Matsuri was the kind senpai who accepted her.

Then Matsuri revealed her as an actual menhera lesbo, and Luna isn't into that. So Luna had to ghost her, not because she hates Matsuri, but because she just didn't want to lead her on and she knows Matsuri isn't capable of compartmentalizing her feelings.

>>33860981
Who's the mom

>>33872166
Siblings always bully eachother.

>>33872388
And the CEO who's that

>>33872166
God imagine getting bullied by chubby festival...
Lucky bastard

>>33848247
she keeps getting seku hara'd by everyone near her. i'm sure it's her fault for emanating a rape me aura.

>>33872232
the only reason why hoshikawa isn't prettier than her actual self is because the model was simply designed to be the pinnacle of blonde perfection
the real hoshikawa is even prettier than 90% of most chuuba avatars

>>33872441
What is the squid killing thing. Some of the stuff is a little obtuse for me to get in the long summary. I know the whole Roberu thing. And I'm getting that she got mogged by EN for a while I guess. But I don't get the squid killing thing and the CEO or mommy stuff. Was the CEO menhera?

How real was matsuri-hoshikawa thing? She's a real dyke?

>>33872783
How real is* you mean

>>33872232
She is absolute sexo tier, Festival is just a delusional dyke. Hoshikawa's love for cock is as apparent as her physical beauty.

>>33872783
She's a huge bislut, the biggest one in vtubing. She was begging for dick and vagina for years. Literal vshojo level

>>33872783
It's both real and fake. Matsuri loved her oshi like teamates love Ame. Eventually, Matsuri had the guts to ask Hoshikawa on an actual date and confessed to her at the end of it. Hoshikawa is straight though and turned Matsuri down. The fake part is their dynamic on stream where Hoshikawa bullies her. It's just for the entertainment while Hoshikawa actually likes Matsuri behind the scenes.
Most of the shitposting about the two started off just having fun with their dynamic, but newfags did their thing and thought it was real. Something real about it was Matsuri did get jealous of Hoshikawa's collab partners from time to time years ago, but she calmed down from that.

>>33872783
she sends superchats to hoshikawa, unironecally watches as many streams as she can, buys merch and brags about it on twitter
think of matsuri as you'd imagine any gachikoi is, she wouldn't mind sperging as much cash on sara as she can, of course they've become friends but I'm not sure who knew hoshikawa before haachama or matsuri

>>33872783
Very real. Matsuri once talked Hoshikawa into letting her take her on a date. Matsuri payed for a very expensive dinner on a yacht and bought her a ring and then after Hoshikawa made fun of her for acting like a pathetic virgin.

>>33849851
Miko raped Peko off stream.

>>33873529
They probably met her at the same time. Hoshikawa was auditioning to become Haato, after all.

>>33860935
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
who?

>>33873748
Asking a girl on a date is now being a virgin I see

>>33848006
Hololive never needed zhang and their bugmen. Hololive is better off for it.

>>33874441
Here you go, enjoy.
https://youtu.be/EvcWW5rMRmA
https://youtu.be/q5uo10jYlCw
https://youtu.be/JbwIKnwrdMw

>>33874441
How you ask is a dead giveaway, yes.

Everyone here proving they don't watch streams, Matsuri is one of the most idol-like in holo. Normies just latched on to her yabe clips and know nothing else about her.

>>33874512
I think you should watch them.

>>33874691
Yeah, Hoshikawa loves the attention she gets from Matsuri. That doesn't change any of what I said. The only thing I got wrong was misremembering the earrings as being just a ring.

>>33874664
The thread started off sort of decent somehow, but at this point it's just full of idiots

>>33847626
Matsuri has a better reputation than you probably think amongst the anons who actually enjoy Hololive. She is easy to make fun of because she often is willing to play a joke character like she does with Towa and anons can't tell the difference. She is quite well respected amongst a lot of the Holos and Stars too

She is literally me but female

>>33875356
You're a successful vtuber and idol who's been on national television more than once?

>>33874772
How does Gundou do it?
Despite being human garbage other vtubers seem to adore her

>>33875416
Yes

>>33847626
she isnt fucking me

>>33874772
God I want to fuck both HSKW and Matsuri like the dirty fucking cock-loving whores they are. At the same motherfucking time.

>>33864646
>She's just not serious, or not as serious as she is about Hoshikawa.
Hoshikawa is just her oshi, she isn't in love with her.

>>33875480
she's hot

>>33875480
>How does Gundou do it?
She's outgoing (this is the most important part) and she's an actively practicing lesbian with a real non-vtuber girlfriend, so she's experienced and mature compared to all the all-talk-no-action girls like hoshikawa or matsuri.

>>33876500
>not fucking HSKW while Matsuri is forced to watch

>>33878026
Idk, denial-play with a menhera sounds like the beginning to a Bad End

>>33876500

>>33847626
She not my girlfriend