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CONCERNS WILL BE ADDRESSED

>> No.3376743

>>3376706
HE'S GETTING FORCED ASSISTED SEPPUKU!!!

>> No.3376765

I'm gonna badmouth everyone working at Hololive

>> No.3376802

>>3376706
>CUMBUDS ABOUT TO GIVE GURA ANOTHER DEPRESSION BY STARTING SHIT
KEK, KFP never did anything like this.

>> No.3376874

>>3376802
>KFP never did anything like this
>Never
How delusional.

>> No.3376891

>>3376802
This is KFP false flagging and blowing it out of proportion.

>> No.3376913

>>3376706
Who the fuck bad mouthed gura? She has no fault in this, either does nacho, I think the outfit could be better but it still look cute.

>> No.3376989

Holy shit the absolute state of Cumbuds. Imagine threatening a someone's life for your fictional loli waifu's honor.

>> No.3376994

>>3376802
>implying KFPniggers aren't involved in this

>> No.3376999

>>3376874
they never did because they arent numerous enough to start something like this in the first place.

>> No.3377117

>>3376706
PR bullshit, i don't beleeb it

>> No.3377171

>>3376706
FIX THE TAIL

>> No.3377207

>>3377171
The tail doesn't matter, but the hole in the chest does

>> No.3377222

>>3376989
It's actually only KFP fans that are pretending to be crazy chumbuds. This is a stealth psyop organised by kiara.

>> No.3377253

FUCK RIGGERS

>> No.3377278

>>3377222
Yeah, I'm sure the Redditors are all in on the falseflagging efforts too.

>> No.3377285

>>3376802
Maybe Gura should stop getting fucked in the ass all the time and this wouldn't happen. Despite Kiara herself she gets an artist that loves her and her rigger is godtier.

>> No.3377289

Even when chumkuks win, they lose.

>> No.3377291

>>3376706
Can you bad mouth t-chan though? I hate that bitch.

>> No.3377313

>the reddit reply in the OP got deleted
T-CHAN'S GONNA FREAK

>> No.3377342

>>3377278
I'm sure you're a redditor, at least.

>> No.3377343

>>3376706
cover gave kiara one of the best riggers....

>> No.3377352

>>3376706
Oddly the only ones made are people who hate Gura. Lol. Gura’s fans are happy.

>> No.3377408

>>3377352
That floating ear was distracting as fuck.

>> No.3377433

>>3377343
Not only that, but Kiara saw Gura was doing cat ears and pre-emptively got herself some better cat ears, showing them out of nowhere. Wow.

>> No.3377484

>>3376706
Why is there a reddit screencap on the catalog?

>> No.3377525

>>3377352
Corporate is still gonna have her say something. It's what the Japanese companies do, have the talent take the hit for them. Kadokawa does it all the time.

>> No.3377544

>>3377285
>Maybe Gura should stop getting fucked in the ass all the time
Please don't kink-shame.

>> No.3377644

>>3377484
>cover announces graduation of all holoEN talents on reddit
>Why is there a reddit screencap on the catalog?

>> No.3377686

>>3377433
Well, her artist just had enough sense to hide where the ear would attach with a headband. the rigger is shit but that specifcally is on Gura's mama.

>> No.3377691

You know it's really bad when they have to pull a PR on reddit, of all places.
RIGGER HATE
COVER KEK
SAME LOVE

>> No.3377703
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3377703

>>3376706
the reddit is in lockdown, fuck cover, your talent with more subs deserve better

>> No.3377731

>>3377342
>No u
Typical Cumbud argumentation ability.

>> No.3377746

>>3377686
Kiara's ears can flick and wiggle in time with her blinks. Can Gura's?

>> No.3377778

>>3376706
GURA SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>> No.3377786

>>3376706
This guy is never getting a rigging job again after this

>> No.3377830

>>3377433
you can push that shit all you want and it will still never be true. Maybe watch streams and you would know the pacifier and cat ears were hukes ideas and obviously Kiara wouldnt say no to fucking cat ears.

>> No.3377832

>>3377222
Holy massive cope. Fucking psyops?

>> No.3377839

>>3376802
Kiara was never relevant enough to be at risk of her fans causing a scene.

>> No.3377868

>>3377207
I wouldve agreed if this was some indie or small company but it isnt.

FIX EVERYTHING.

>> No.3377875
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3377875

>tfw you try to make a blue copy of Nyanners but fail

>> No.3377882

wtf happened

>> No.3377892

>>3377778
kek

>> No.3377897

>>3377786
God willing.

>> No.3377917

>>3377882
gura has holes in her chest under her suspenders and her ears are floating above her head

>> No.3377938
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3377938

I can't tell if Redditors are literally fucking blind or just so brainwashed they think Cover can do no wrong.

>I'm really not sure what all the outrage about the rigging is. I didn't even notice it until people pointed it out.
>I must be the dumbest person alive because I literally cannot figure out what the rigging problems are
>Just a little problem about the rigging, hope they can fix that
>Chat was spamming how cute it was and Gura was super happy with it, it went perfectly fine. This is being blown totally out of proportion and I'm not going to be surprised when Gura reads some people the riot act tomorrow.
What the fuck?

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3377948

>>3377786
good, also naked dogeza or sudoku in front of the tombs of his ancestor AT LEAST. He decides

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3377955

>>3377875
Often imitated, never replicated

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3377986

>>3377882

>> No.3378008

>>3377832
KFP is the ultimate scape goat. I fucking love it.

>> No.3378021

When will Holofags accept that Cover aren't the best riggers and never were? This is an egregious case, but their model quality has stagnated hard for a long time.

>> No.3378027

>>3377938
Half of reddit is also shitting on it, so much so they had to lock it for a day. Anon, your selective memory...

>> No.3378038

>>3377917
How could they miss this shit

>> No.3378064

>>3378021
Cover doesn't rig shit you dumb newfag, every rigger Hololive works with is an independent contractor. Off yourself with your actual first day knowledge

>> No.3378092

That why Gura want to nerf herself so bad.

>> No.3378108

>>3376706
>Please, do not bad-mouth anyone involved, including Gura, her artist, her rigger or Cover
All me btw. Used my bots so I don't even need to go there personally.

>> No.3378113

>>3378008
t. KFP false flagger.

>> No.3378117

>>3378021
>Cover
The rigging is all done by third party professionals.

Watame and Coco have a different rigger which is why their models animate very well.

>> No.3378131

Go back and stay there

>> No.3378147

>>3377938
it's legit just an ear being slightly not connected to the rest of the head which i think implies less technical incompetence and more that the model just wasnt done, but, like, hey. time to go. this probably explains why she doesnt have any accessories either. i'd wager something like a headband or something was maybe supposed to go over the ear. her ice cubes on the other side do

>> No.3378173

>>3377917
Where are the holes? I can't see them.

>> No.3378182

>>3378021
They have legitimately great fucking riggers though, it's baffling why they'd keep using the shit ones. It's not like an actual mama or papa like Ui or Pochi, nobody gives a fuck about riggers. Lamy, Botan, Watame, Calli, Kiara, all have top tier rigging and that's just off the top of my head. Gura's is one of the worst still in Hololive.

>> No.3378211

>>3378173
check
>>3377986

>> No.3378219

>>3377986
Look at her ear in motion at the time stamp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdG2fpj1ybk&t=2510s

>> No.3378234

>>3378147
It's the ear not being connected and a hole in her chest, and the fact that when she turns her face, it looks like a fucking funhouse mirror.

>> No.3378237

>>3377948
>naked dogeza
She's a woman so I'm voting for this one

>> No.3378259

>>3377938
Oh this is nothing, reddit's ability to suck dick of any company of celebrity there is to the point of banning people who disagree is legendary

>> No.3378281

>>3376706
Yeah its totally the rigging and not the fact that she picked an uninspired yawn outfit with no accessories

>> No.3378288

>>3376706
>Ames outfit reveal prechat is going to be full of people discussing Guras rigging
You'll stop that from happening right Teammates?

>> No.3378296

Ah yes, here's the western cancel culture blow up I've been waiting for. I predicted it would take at most a year after EN debuted. I'm gonna have to go dig up that post for when we get the thread discussing the closure of Cover.

Anyway, you get what you fucking deserve. Now go out there and do what you do best, online ironic weebs and ADHD zoomers; destroy. I've been waiting for this. Sticking to this shit like glue. Don't disappoint me, make sure to do something flashy.

>> No.3378314

>>3376706
What a fucking rigger.

>> No.3378354

>>3378296
This post is really cringey m8 not gonna lie.

>> No.3378365

>>3377938
Normally you're right but the vast majority in that thread are shitting on the rigging.

>> No.3378379

>>3376706
the fallout from this will be delicious, everyone will lose and if the jabs falls right, this is the dawn of the final jab

>> No.3378384

>>3378314
Not even, a real one would do a good job.
Wait, you don't mean...

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3378417

>>3377313

>> No.3378425
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3378425

>>3378384

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>> No.3378442

>>3378182
I think its a time thing, good riggers get reservations for months

>> No.3378492

>>3378296
meds

>> No.3378499

I have a hunch the VOD's going to get privated. and they'll have to make another stream as if nothing happened.

I just hope the don't cancel sunday's collab though

>>3378296
and the time to take your meds is long overdue.

>> No.3378517

>>3376706
UUUOOOOOOHHHH! SOMEBODY'S ABOUT TO GO TO DEAD RIGGER STORAGE

>> No.3378522

>>3378379
meds

>> No.3378526
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>>3378296

>> No.3378528

>>3376706
You can fix bad rigging, but a bad outfit can't be fixed. Fucking amateur artists came up with a more original stuff in one week than this generic shit

>> No.3378554

>>3378296
Dialate

>> No.3378557

>>3378442
>Jujube did Kanata, Towa, Mori, Ina, probably Luna, they all look great
>This fuck does ONE (1) and can't even properly attach the ears to the head?

>> No.3378574

>>3377433
>>3377830
This, she left most of her new design up to Huke. Huke himself was the one who asked Kiara for help and ideas at the last moment, not the other way around.

Her top was also more see through, but management made him change it.

>> No.3378591

>>3377222
How can Kiara keep getting away with this???

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3378597

>>3376706
>threatening an artist over a simple botched job that can be fixed easily
Fucking hell, chumpedos are absolute cancer, Can't fucking wait until Gura goes into another depression arc over all this drama, kek. This might be the final YAB after all.

>> No.3378603

>>3378557
now you know why she was free

>> No.3378605

>>3377352
Speak for yourself, faggot. They did her so fucking dirty.

>> No.3378671

>>3378528
well the outfit its a choice between the chuuba and the artist after all

>> No.3378672

>>3378557
He also did anya and new year coco I think.
Still. RIGGER HATE
DESPITE

>> No.3378673

lmfao the absolute state of this board.

>> No.3378690

>>3378296
>here's the western cancel culture blow up I've been waiting for
I don't think you know what this means.

>> No.3378698

>>3378597
Its KFP

>> No.3378731
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3378731

>>3376706
Rigger's future status will be stiff from RIGGERMORTIS

>> No.3378742

You made me check the reddit holy shit are they furious.

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3378762

>>3378296
you need this better than I do

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>>3376706
>t-chan
is it towel?

>> No.3378792

>>3378296
at least spend a month lurking before posting

>> No.3378798

DESPITE MAKING UP 13% OF HOLOLIVE STAFF, RIGGERS COMMIT 50% OF ALL VIOLENT YABS

>> No.3378813

The transparency and floating ear can be fixed easily but will they do anything about her flat cardboard face?

>> No.3378816

>>3378597
Not saying threatening is okay. But let’s be honest if that didn’t happen this shit would never be fixed. Hell, we still don’t know if it will ACTUALLY be fixed.

>> No.3378825

>>3378731
good one

>> No.3378827

>>3378731
carlos pls

>> No.3378830

Chumtards are literall children, they don't seem to realze that Gura is reading all their cringy death threats to the rigger since she rt his post, and this will only send her into yet another hermit arc, where she will just isolate herself even more and get more depressed with each day.

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>>3378698
Noticing how Kiarafags left threads criticizing kiara to immediately ham on Gura's cat design.
But I'm sure that's just
>pure coincidence
right?

>> No.3378845

>>3376706
Is that Reddit?
Are those retards actually waking up and having standards for once?

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>3378296
You could've tried making a less cringy bait

>> No.3378889

Why is it that I've seen better rigging on some indie english Vtuber models? not all of them mind you but the expensive side of EN indie rigging seems a lot better than some of what Hololive gets especially in terms of movement.

>> No.3378906

>>3378296
GWS

>> No.3378918

>>3378234
>the fact that when she turns her face, it looks like a fucking funhouse mirror.

she's always kind of had a flat face, though, right?

>> No.3378952

>>3376706
EN is a mistake.

>> No.3378957
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3378957

>>3378845
reddit is ACTUALLY angry

>> No.3378963

>>3378918
Yes and surprise surprise, it's the same hack that did it.

>> No.3378973

>>3378237
>She's a woman
Ugh, that explains why her work is so shit.

>> No.3379010

Too late I already tweeted at the rigger gura deserved better she is the most subbed hololive memeber

>> No.3379019

>>3377285
The outfit is fine, its the rigging thats shit and lacking any fucking accessories all her team mates got.

>> No.3379038

>>3378671
If it's like that, then I'm going to start believing in rrats that Gura really doesn't care much about vtubing

>> No.3379067

>>3378830
HOW WILL CUMBUDS RECOVER?!

>> No.3379069

>>3377207
Yea it was pretty weird that their top talent (subswise) get the worst model with some obvious problems but I guess Gawdu Guraah just didn't care too much or there was some sort of last minute change actually let's go with this RRAT perhaps Gura pitched some meme-inspired model and management had a late realization that this shit might be problematic and they hae to do it again from scratch thus we have this rushed generic neco Gura.

>> No.3379087

>>3378830
You're right, but are you surprised? xQshark's viewers have always been like this.

>> No.3379135

>>3378288
rig and rigging will be banned words on nightbot

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>>3378296

>> No.3379156

>>3378816
We do though..

>> No.3379167

>>3379087
The one thing she can’t escape even with reincarnation is a shitty fanbase

>> No.3379205

>>3378973
yeah sure it does poltard
go back

>> No.3379226

>>3379167
Its pretty much her fault that she can't tardwrangle her viewers. She's had so many chances to put down barriers and deny the parasocial fags but she's too pussy to do it.

>> No.3379229
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3379229

>>3376706
Isn't this the ONLY fucking thing Cover actually provides for the girls?
Their outfits/models/rigs, how do you fuck up this badly with one of your biggest talents?
Its not even like they were caught by surprise either, they just admitted to knowing that it was bad, and instead of delaying it like they did with Luna, they chose to release that shit?
Really, how incompetent can you be?
Or do they just not give a fuck about EN in general?
This shit is legit baffling, finally they beat Niji and they completely fuck it up...

>> No.3379230

I wish these twitter/reddit faggots used this opportunity to shit on Cover and EN management instead of targeting an outsourced rigger.
>>3378528
This. Honestly, instead of leaving it to these expensive hacks they hire, they should just hold some kind of contest where people submit their designs, I fucking bet you could get a much better and cheaper outfit this way. You can argue that the girls wouldn't have any input this way but they could just ask them for a theme and whatever else they would like to see since that's pretty much what they do, in some cases the artist gives zero fucks so what's there to lose? They could also leave to the chuuba to choose the winner design to add some spice to the reveal.
Unless the artists refuse to work this way since they would be paid only to trace the winner design and maybe change a thing or two, I see no cons.

>> No.3379335

>>3378365
Tbh your right, but give it day or two and that subreddit is most likely gonna go back to dick sucking.

It happened when Coco was suspended for 3 weeks. The first day everyone was mad, then like a fucking few days later it was "To protect Coco" and Hololive coudn't do no wrong.

>> No.3379349

>>3378957
Good, Cover actually listens to Reddit, they need to hound them so that they actually fix this shit.

>> No.3379366

>>3379230
>instead of leaving it to these expensive hacks they hire
FUCKING THIS.
STOP FALLING FOR THE FAMOUS ARTIST MEME

>> No.3379369

the main reason i hate this is because you just know it's going to stress gura

>> No.3379408

>>3377222
You just wish they were Kfp

cope chumbuds

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3379412

Ignoring the terrible rigging, what are your opinions on the outfit itself?

>> No.3379440

>>3379335
Because the first day the fucking chinese started invading. There was even propaganda posts about how china until they locked it

>> No.3379453

>>3379412
It needs to be removed, immediately.

>> No.3379455

>>3379412
Cat ears don't suit her and never will. the only cat ear i can accept is the meme headset one.

>> No.3379465

>>3379369
This is exactly why I'm doing this, its gonna be great seeing her breakdown and not do anything to contain her audience.

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3379473

>>3378918
>she's always kind of had a flat face, though, right?
Yeah, but it's WAY more obvious now.

>> No.3379480

>>3378499
I don't see why. Everyone loved the pose and design, just rigger fuck ups. It could even be potentially fixed by then.

>> No.3379481

>>3379230
>they should just hold some kind of contest where people submit their designs
in a way, they did

>> No.3379485

>>3379412
Conceptually it's cute, but the weird ass barrel torso and straps look like absolute dogshit.

>> No.3379497

>>3379412
10/10 cute. Cat ears are jank but I was initially thinking I didn't have much to shitpost about this time around until the other rigging errors got pointed out.

>> No.3379509

>>3378379
Lurk for 10 thousand years.

>> No.3379518

>>3379473
To think Gura a hololive would get holostar treatment

>> No.3379523

>>3379412
JESUS

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3379528

>During the Minecraft stream when Gura was gushing and talking about how much she loved her teammates' outfits, and then finally half heartedly saying that she though her was ok too.
Shit, I though it was weird even then or that maybe she was just being modest, but it seems like even she knew it was bad.
I legit feel bad for her, she doesn't deserves to get the shaft this way.

>> No.3379536

>>3378528
outfits fine though?

>> No.3379542

>>3379412
Bland as hell. Doesn't fit her personality at all. Both Ina and Cali got outfits that accurately depicted their personality traits. Kiara also got a somewhat generic outfit, but I'd argue that it isn't bland like this one is. At least Kiaras was very different from her default.
What's the point of an alt costume if its just gonna be pretty much the same thing as the old one.

>> No.3379563

>>3379473
damn. this cursed as fuck.

>> No.3379566

>>3379038
Anon all her fetishes sans maid clothes are on it, it's not about she liking or not vtubing as much as she just having shit taste

>> No.3379573

>>3379542
gura's personality is bland so it fits kek

>> No.3379580

>>3378957
>people complaining not getting downvoted

HOLY SHIT COVER IS FUCKING FINISHED
But then again they are talking shit about the artist. If it was about a Holo it would truly be on fire.

>> No.3379587

>>3376706
>internet based company
>somehow didn't expect this
Are nips actually retarded

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>>3379412
Its pretty cute, a bit basic but cute.
They could have given her some nice accessories like a cowboy hat or other hair styles too, really weird she is the only one who doesn't have that shit from her gen.

>> No.3379600

>>3379412
i like it a lot. looks like a real nice casual summer outfit, you know doesn't look like an out of the ordinary dress, but then also looks like she fucking destroyed a battleship curled the hull into a dress shape and put it on. the buttons totally look like rivets. the gradient is rad. the one long strap with the gradient is great. she's got the ina tentacle kind of style going on in the shark bit piece of the dress too. the little bit of red really makes the thing pop too. the shark teeth around her neck and the tiny bit of white on the dress is great also

>> No.3379610

>>3379412
6/10 needs white stockings or socks, replace sandals with something else, dress could be cuter

>> No.3379611

>>3379205
>EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME IS POL!
go back leddit
>>3379230
>I wish these twitter/reddit faggots used this opportunity to shit on Cover and EN management instead
too dumb for that I'm afraid, and reddit doesn't dare criticize the corporation
100% bootlickers

>> No.3379630

>>3379412
Fucking ADORABLE, nacho-mama knocked it out of the park. I'm sad there seem to be no/little extra accessories and things like that (glasses...) but the design itself is WOW CUTE. Love the hair, love the little details and the clothes, love the bare toes with the nail polish designs, love the new bratty pose with her arm.

The rigging is just shit.

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>>3376706
must......not.....RRAT!!!

>> No.3379658

>>3379573
(you)

>> No.3379677

>>3379573
Personality?

>> No.3379692

>>3379229
That obsession with Nijisanji is amazing

>> No.3379698

>>3379412
It's not bad, needs some fixes sure but just that

>> No.3379706

Imagine having the opportunity to showcase your work to a shit ton of people and you do your lamest effort to deliver that...

>> No.3379710

>>3379542
>Doesn't fit her personality at all.
It perfectly fits her girly side, what the fuck are you on about.

>> No.3379712

>>3379573
hehe

>> No.3379729

>>3379229
nijifags somehow try to keep making this about themselves

>> No.3379761

>>3379412
uoooh/10 Just get the fucking rigging fixed.

>> No.3379780

>>3379412
It's cute, but it's definitely not my favourite.
I think it could have used some sort of cat theme in the clothing, the cat ears kinda look out of place.

But then again Toes...

>> No.3379810

>>3379412
It's cute. I like the side-ponytail.
And feet.

>> No.3379815

>>3379573
This is true, yet chumfucks will crucify you for this

>> No.3379839
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>>3376706
So whats even the excuse here, this is completely on them since Cover provides the Holos with the outfits, and its not like they didn't know there would be high expectations for their biggest Holo at the moment, so why give her a really shitty indi level rigging?
Did they really not expect blowback? They didn't even give her accessories for fuck sakes.

>> No.3379856

>>3377285
maybe I should be the only one fucking Gura's ass.

>> No.3379866
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>COVER IS DISEASED
>ROTTEN TO THE CORE
>THERE'S NO SAVING IT
>WE NEED TO PULL IT OUT BY THE ROOTS
>WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN
>BURN IT DOWN
>AND FROM THE ASHES, A NEW COVER >CORP WILL BE BORN
>EVOLVED, BUT UNTAMED

>> No.3379892

>>3378296
take some meds

>> No.3379906

>>3379839
>You've now just realized that Hololive is a completely inferior company to Nijisanji in every way except the talents (debatable).

>> No.3379920

>>3379518
Heh.

>> No.3379923

>>3376802
KFP has nothing to complain about. If Kiara got a shitty rig, you bet KFP would kill some motherfuckers too.

>> No.3379934

>One minor thing goes wrong
>People sperg out
Hololive truly is a house of cards

>> No.3379948

>>3378314
I'm sorry omg, what an asshole

>> No.3379997

>>3379906
I mean, yeah, its really showing just how shit management is over at Cover, when they can fuck up with basic shit that even indi vtubers can manage like alt outfits.

>> No.3379999

>>3379934
no this is just /vt/

>> No.3380022

>>3379866
MAKE COVER GREAT AGAIN

>> No.3380031

>>3378957
I'm surprised the they not deleting those comment

>> No.3380041

>>3379839
The question of the hour.
Gura probably pissed off the passive aggressive EN manager somehow and this is their "punishment".

>> No.3380049

>>3379839
>So whats even the excuse here
Complacency, no competitionm, they thought the audience would just eat it. Hell even her outfit isnt that creative even wihout the rigging errors

>> No.3380088

>>3377938
They love Yagoo thanks to the dragon and Yagoo is the face of Cover for them

>> No.3380089

>>3379934
>minor
The literal top viewed stream of all vtubers is a minor occurrence.

>> No.3380094

>>3380031
Too incompetent even for a coverup.

>> No.3380098

>>3379866
K E K
E
K

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Why are there so many SEAnigger teamates? I'm tired of them shitting the place up and making the rest of us look bad.

>> No.3380141

>>3380041
Whats with with Cover and their ability to hire awful managers

>> No.3380174

>>3378957
Between this and them shitting on meme review. They're honestly more based then this board at this point

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>>3378731
Don't you have a race to job this weekend?

>>3379412
It doesn't tingle anything on me that could make me like it like Calli or Ina's outfits.

But I still have to rate it a 6.8/10 because she was having a good time enjoying herself with it, regardless of how it was rigged.

>>3379480
It all comes down to how Cover's PR handles the whole situation, this is their most viewed stream on history and their reputation will feel affected because of this in one way or another.

>> No.3380195

>>3378597
You can't hype something up so much and then expect people to swallow an obviously sub par job. This is literally Cyberpunk 2077 of vtubers right now.

>> No.3380247

>>3379934
Fucked up cat ears
Fucked up face movement proportions
Fucked up The Heart.
Fucked up Transparent tail

anything else?

>> No.3380248

>>3378296
>western cancel culture
>wanting the rigging redone
I think you're a bit confused zhang.

>> No.3380260

>>3379839
I'm willing to give some benefit of the doubt and say that Gura either straight up forgot about her accessories, or explicitly requested to not have any. Everyone else got controllers of some kind, but Gura didn't, so it may be a personal choice because Gura doesn't want to keep track of that shit with shorkbrain. Hell, we had to learn from the rigger themselves that the ears and bag are toggleable.

The rest is completely fucked, though.

>> No.3380262

>cover frantically makes accessories
>cover asks gura to lie and say she forgot to show them
>gura agrees because she's a pushover
>lie is obvious and ends up fuelling the fire

You guys can cap this. I called it here.

>> No.3380264

>>3380031
That's be just stoking the flames higher.

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>"You're rushing her model so that you can watch everyone around her get angry at you! Think COVER! You're leaving the mascot of the entire Holo EN out to dry! She'll outrun every other Vtuber out there! Even after your company dies she will still have her legacy! Everyone and everything you know will be gone! What will you have after 500 yabs?"

>> No.3380297

>>3379710
All of them have a "girly" personality. That's not inherently unique to gura.
I don't watch her streams often, but the vibe I get from her is that she is a gamer/gen z girl. They should have given her something in that vein rather than just a generic "girly" outfit.

>> No.3380339

>>3376706
This was Cover's biggest stream btw, fucking embarrassing.
Niji is dabbing on them so hard.

>> No.3380351

I fully believe the rigger is either related to someone in upper management at cover or got some insane kind of contract with them that lets them stay employed.
Cover has dropped FAR bigger people over less than this.
The only thing i could thonk of at this point other than those two is that this guy literally doesnt charge money so cover just keeps bringing him back

>> No.3380355

>>3380141
I'm sorry bro cover put all their ability points into luck and talent discovery. So of course everything else including management discovery is 1

>> No.3380359

GET HIM

>> No.3380360

>>3379412
No BIG twintail/10.
Nacho did a very good job though. I didn't expect anything like this at all, and it's much better than a maid outfit or a not-kimono.

>> No.3380363

Turns out this fucker also rigged one of the girls from new indie project I started to watch just a few days ago. https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1390482269102542849?s=19
Rigging is not bad but it's really stiff... https://youtu.be/krJ91VIFeSc
Makes me wonder how much does he charge if this small company could afford it.

>> No.3380391

>>3378296
takea your meds chang

>> No.3380394

>>3380260
Calli and Kiara's controllers were made by someone in the community. Ina made her own, I think.

>> No.3380459

>>3380260
>so it may be a personal choice because Gura doesn't want to keep track of that shit with shorkbrain
Gura specifically mentioned that she wants a controller like the others, I don't think Cover provides them with that or management is pissed with her for some reason.

>> No.3380464

>>3379369
Poor Gura, she deserved a better audience

>> No.3380470

>>3380297
>I don't watch her streams often
Lol yeah no shit. You clearly don't know a thing about her personality.

>> No.3380476

>>3380248
It's not a zhang, it's an assblasted SEAnigger. Zhangs have a better grasp of these sorts of things.

>> No.3380540

>>3380363
So this basically confirms they specifically went for the cheaper option? if this is true where the fuck is there money actually going? its not going to the rigging and its not helping the girls with projects pekora's meltdown is a example of this so what the fuck are they doing with it?

>> No.3380542

>>3379369
that's what they want, others just want to see the dumpster fire.

>> No.3380549

>>3379369
She'll be unstressed once it gets fixed. Its fucking Covers fault for letting this go live without proper quality control and for hiring that rigger in the first place after 2 fuckups already.

>> No.3380562

>>3378816
That's bullshit honestly, you don't have to threaten the rigger to get it fixed, it was obviously a rushed job. Kiara got like 3 different Live2D updates when no one even complained, surely Gura can get hers updated easily.
Cumbuds are so autistic the subreddit is on lockdown, this shit has never happened even with Anya's bad rigging or with Roberu's fucked up hands or with Ayame's new outfit having retarded gremlin proportions. It's literally ONLY cumbuds that behave like this because they're all 12 year olds.

>> No.3380578

>>3379839
>THINGS COVER STAFF SHOULD DO FOR THEIR TALENT.WMP

>> No.3380581

>>3378835
Shit they were in the main one as well throwing jabs (among the ocean of UUOOOHHHs) about superchats and design choices (when obviously the problem is the rig, some girls don't go for mountains of accessories). Real unsavory bunch.

>> No.3380609

>>3379412
Tbh really weak, comparing with Ina's Calliope and Kiara it's the most boring, it's just so generic and simple, looks like Gura said she wanted Cat ears and the rest she forgot to say, so they got the most generic clothes possible.

>> No.3380610

>>3380540
Wasn't the company original supposed to be making some gatcha games, its probably going there.
Sora was originally just hired to promote that shit.

>> No.3380611

>>3380470
Explain her personality then. Because for all the other girls I can understand their personality just from watching the collabs and bits of their streams.
With Gura you literally don't get that. To be honest she is a bit of a blank slate and what >>3379573 said has a kernel of truth to it.

>> No.3380619

>>3380297
Imagine trying to bullshit about something you don't even know or understand. bro are you like a university student or something?

>> No.3380655

>>3380578
>>THINGS COVER STAFF SHOULD DO FOR THEIR TALENT.WMP
Motherfucker, this is the ONE thing that they actually do for their talent, so what happened?

>> No.3380667

>>3380540
>pekora's meltdown
quick rundown?

>> No.3380677

>>3380611
Anon her personality is your average gamer girl there is nothing else. The stereotype is so true it fucking hurts.

>> No.3380680

>>3380262
no cap necessary everyone expects this

>> No.3380708

>>3379412
Need cowboy hat

>> No.3380710

>>3380363
>>3380540
The fuck are you retards talking about indie and small agency vtubers get work done by professionals all the time. Do you need to be reminded that Prism Project hired Gura's artist to make Luto despite their most successful vtuber only having like 10k subs? That shit isn't very expensive in general, a high quality rigger and artist will run you about $1500-2000 each.

>> No.3380715

>>3380476
Uh... lol no they don't anon. SEAnigs are actually better at the schizo game than zhangs are, in that zhangs have a habit of masking nothing and are obtusely blunt when they try to be jews. Remember the Coco fucks? They've been waiting for something like this.

>> No.3380719

>>3380351
rigger's a zhang so probably related to en management.

>> No.3380721

>>3380610
wrong. they were making 3d tracking stuff and sora was brought on to show off the tracking and shit.

>> No.3380724

>>3380655
The whole point of that list is things they should do for their talent vs things they ACTUALLY do for their talent, usually by poor execution. They SHOULD hire better riggers and have some kind of QC before a model goes out. What they ACTUALLY did was hire this fuckup and then apparently nobody took a second look at what he did.

>> No.3380728

>>3379591
It's honestly kind of weird. Nearly every single alt costume gets accessories. Animal ears, glasses, hats, poses, different hairstyles and other neat little doodads for the girls to play with. Gura got a removable purse that will literally never be seen because it's at her waist, and ears that are barely even attached. Her fucking ORIGINAL costume has more accessories than this one. It just feels like they didn't give a shit at all.

>> No.3380731

>>3379412
cute toes but the outfit is bland compared to the ones that fans came up with

>> No.3380774

>>3380710
It's almost as if artists just take on projects for money regardless of whether the company is big or an indie

>> No.3380776

>>3380562
You have a fair point but i still respect them more then the JOPS and people on this board who always take Cover's dick up their ass no matter what.

>> No.3380797

>>3380667
rabbit wanted to do a 'thing', whatever it was, in honor of her fans and probably worked hard on it
management said NO at the last moment for some reason
cancelled stream
she broke
same thing happened to haachama where they stepped in to cancel her penultimate stream of her schizo arc
in both cases it would have been better to deny at the outset rather than at the very last minute when the talent had already built it up

>> No.3380828

>>3380776
You respect 12 year olds? kek

>> No.3380834

>>3380728
>It just feels like they didn't give a shit at all.
Its getting harder and harder to ignore Cover's contempt for her, I have to wonder who she pissed off.

>> No.3380851

>>3380728
I feel like everyone else actually asked for accessories and Gura just said give me cat ears and sandals.

>> No.3380879

>>3380834
Resentment that she passed all of their stars that were built up over the years so easily

>> No.3380910

>>3380476
Lmao that's a zhang, they always speak the dumbest chunni cringe shit.

>> No.3380967

>>3380834
It might not be malice, just incompetence. They figure "Oh Same-chan is cute and people love her, they'll be happy with whatever."

>> No.3380997

>>3380851
>cat ears
cringe

>sandals
based

She should ask for more and be more demanding so she doesn't keep getting stepped on. Jesus Christ.

>> No.3381017

>>3380611
>Because for all the other girls I can understand their personality just from watching the collabs and bits of their streams.
Gura's conplex so you cant do that. Shes got about 5 different sides to her that come out at different times depending on her mood. One of them is her super feminine girlygirl side that loves playing with her hair, painting her nails, taking long baths, wanting to do slumber parties with the other girls, being into stuff like barbie horse adventure, etc. This outfit fits that side perfectly.

>rest of your post
No you are retarded and so is that coping barracuda you quoted. You are literally clipnigger tier.

>> No.3381054

>Even reddit is bitching that Gura is getting shat on
That shit is honestly surprising, because unlike YouTube itself and Twitter, the subreddit for some reason always hates on Gura, so for them to actually defend her its pretty weird.

>> No.3381068

>>3380797
true, that really sucks. How can good come from quashing the creativity of your talents?

>> No.3381076

>>3380677
>t. Has never watched gura streams
She doesn't even game that much how the fuck is she a "gamer girl" type?? That applies more to Ame except even then is a reductive and retarded statement. You're probably just another dogfucker.

>> No.3381109

>>3381054
No one there does. stop making shit up

>> No.3381146

>>3380728
It's not that they didn't give her shit. She didn't ask. She thought the ears would carry her

>> No.3381154

>>3380611
anime girl xqc

>> No.3381159

>>3378296
>you get what you fucking deserve.
ah yes, I'll just use youtube/reddit tier posts on my everyday life

>> No.3381161

>>3380997
isn't it enmas job to do that if she doesnt??

>> No.3381169

>>3380677
The fact that you don't actually watch her stream is so true it fucking hurts.

>> No.3381187

>>3380828
When they actually get angry that something is shitty somewhat yes. i honestly bet half the people would defend Cover if something like the holocaust happened anyway. and anyway they reap what they sow. they want to pander to idolfags gachikoi and whatever gura's fanbase is? they should expect this kind of reaction

>> No.3381197

>>3379412
Really ugly dress and top.. I mean really.

>> No.3381217

>>3378182
Amashiro-mama does Live2D rigging too and she could have done a better job than this guy. Dunno if Cover has a beef with the idea of an artist doing her own Live2D instead of separate artist/riggers for each holo.

>> No.3381223

>>3381154
you've only watched one and not the other. They are far too different.

>> No.3381229

>>3378296
cringe

>> No.3381246

>>3380262
meds

>> No.3381290

>>3380339
dabbing on second place, stay there nijitrannie

>> No.3381293

>>3381161
>cover manager
They're incompetent shitters. the only good thing from cover are their talents. So if the talents don't do something, nothing will happen

>> No.3381329

>>3379369
The worst is she doesnt have the fault this time, she was the only one handle like this like come on, out of the 8 outfits reveals only Gura's one is like this.

>> No.3381373

>>3381293
>the only good thing from cover are their talents. So if the talents don't do something, nothing will happen
This. Look at Suisei's concerts vs other Holos, or even the big concerts like Fes and Bloom. Suisei is known to be very particular and speak her mind on how the concert should go and as a result hers look way better than the shit Cover puts out. Marine and Pekora had to fund half of their own projects and Pekora's got shut down still.

>> No.3381381

>>3381017
>Gura's conplex so you cant do that
It's "complex", but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because I assume they don't teach you that word in the 4th grade.
Also your post pretty much describes 75% of the holos. So her entire personality is just being girly??? What a shit personality.

>You are literally clipnigger tier
Implying Gura's fanbase aren't the flies attracted via the clipnigger's shit. Gura's fanbase is literally the most EOP, generic, annoying, and tasteless fanbase in all of hololive. You gatekeeping it is honestly funny.

>>3380677
Sad because Ame does it better.

>>3381169
>>3381076
Please describe what's so unique about her beyond "she's girly!"

>> No.3381382

>>3381187
were you not here when the holocaust happened? They fucking shat on cover. Sure they forget it in a week because there is no use to keep shitting on them for something that will clearly take time. And their pandering to idolfag gachikois don't matter at all. JOPs are not seething like EN is.

>> No.3381438

>>3379230
They kind of did that.
But doing that way will make a #boogiedownchallenge/orange shirt kid 2.0
With hours of discussions of who deserve to be the winner.

>> No.3381446

>>3381197
Based on the pre-debut outlines, the design should have a fancy removable jacket. Most likely the rigger fucked that jacket too, but he fucked it so much so cover had to hide it completely

>> No.3381454

>>3381109
What? Yeah they do and hey always undermined her.
Even when she hits big milestones, they will quarantine all posts in a single thread, while everyone else basically gets the whole subreddit for like a day.

>> No.3381482

>>3379412
I mean it's fine I guess

>> No.3381483

>>3380834
>Marine and Miko BL flames the same day when Cover.corp is on twitter trending page.
>Half-ass rigged for HoloEn.
Hmmm smell fishy.

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>>3377986
Fuck the small details. The whole model has broken perspectives on anything other than looking straight ahead. This is Anya level bad.

>> No.3381534

>>3379866
AND IT WILL GO, LIKE A FLOOD OF PAIN

>> No.3381550

>>3381483
The Miko Marine thing was weeks ago, what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.3381552

>>3379366
>Famous artist
>Most of the people who Hololive works with are literally who?

Anon, just because fags make buzz whenever a big shot is working with Cover, doesn't mean the whole staff is by big shots.

>> No.3381609

>>3381454
Because when she first started hitting those milestones there was like 30 of them in a row so they had to clean that up and leave just one. When others hit those milestones there is like 2-3 that get posted so there is no need to clean it up and they just all hit the front page.

>> No.3381610

>>3381508
Holy fuck that looks cursed.

>> No.3381647

>>3376706
I watched the video after the stream had ended, as I don't usually post here at all and I prefer watching vods, and the first thing I thought when I saw it was just how bad the rigging was. I'm glad I wasn't alone on this.
It's a great concept, so I hope they will adjust it promptly.

>> No.3381665

>>3381154
Whos xqc?

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>>3381508
Why does it look like her face got flattened???

>> No.3381682

>>3377484
pissbaby

>> No.3381693

>>3381647
Some people that had rigging experience pointed out that it shouldn't take more than a few hours of elbow grease to get it fixed. The question is just how it made it through QC in the first place

>> No.3381705

>>3381381
>Stop being a retarded clipfag
>B-b-b-b others do it too!
Literally kill yourself, clipfaggot

>> No.3381720

>>3381693
>QC
>Cover
That's the answer.

>> No.3381725

>>3381508
Makes me glad I watched that on 240p. Jesus that's terrible.

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>>3376706
>Silhouette has an obvious removable jacket like Calli's
>Actual reveal doesn't have it
So, let me guess, that shit was also fucked up and they decided to not even show it at the last minute.
Why the fuck didn't they just push the release of this reveal when it was actually finished?
I mean, they did for Luna, so why not Gura?

>> No.3381767

>>3380125
I have no opinion of teammates but Amelia has a fairly low intelligence (or low patience to stop and think, Oblivion was the largest indicator of this) so if you are correct, that would only be fitting.

>> No.3381771

>>3381720
Their talents still count as products in my mind and the QC on talents are not bad at all.

>> No.3381777

>>3381454
>Cumbuds act out
>Reddit jannies clean it up
>Reeee don't tread on the shark!!!
The reason they dont do this with other Holos is because their fans aren't retarded children. Even Haachama at the peak of her schizo arc didn't get as much spam as Gura.

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>>3381720
cover is not in charge of Q&A of the rigged product, it's the independent animation artist's responsibility to Q&A their own product before they deliver it to Cover.
What is this retardation ITT that people think riggers are somehow inhouse animators? They're all independent you idiots

>> No.3381802

>>3381508
It's like someone ripped off Gura's face and put it on another girls body.

>> No.3381809

>>3381679
Because little on her face does perspective transformations correctly.
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/dip/perspective_transformation.htm

Your brain is unable to interpret Gura as a 3D object because there are too many perspective problems.
The most insidious part of this is that it's not as obvious in a still image and at certain angles, so it might have looked decent in a preview until Gura took it out for a drive.

>> No.3381820

>>3381755
There is no jacket blind nigger. It's just the purse and part of dress that makes it look like sleeves. Fix your fucking eyesight please.

>> No.3381821

>>3377938
There's a lot of cover shills on reddit.

>> No.3381838

>>3381647
I actually came back to this board just to see if it was just me that I was losing my shit.
I mean, it was so fucking bad, she not getting any sort of accessories also baffled me.

>> No.3381839

>>3376802
She shouldn't feel bad, it's not her fault

>> No.3381842

So /vt/ is just raiding r/hololive?

>> No.3381847

>>3379412
All the EN have been lackluster so far compared to their original ones, even Gura's despite her original one was a run of the mill hoodie.
The only thing that made them interesting were the accessories such as Kiara's whole new package of reactions and accessories, Calli's without the jacket and Ina's AO-pad.
Honestly, at first was mostly interested on Ame because of how ambiguous the silluethe is but right now idk anymore.

>> No.3381875

>>3381800
>it's the independent animation artist's responsibility to Q&A their own product
You sound like a complete retard, but we already knew that since you're a fucking sheepposter.

>> No.3381878

>>3381842
reddit doesn't need 4chan to burn the subreddit to the ground, all of 2020 they proved they'll just do it themselves and also believe any chink lie you feed them

>> No.3381898

>>3380828
yeah they're more based than you

>> No.3381903

>>3377746
Yes, and so do all the JPs with cat ears.

>> No.3381934

>>3381875
so what's the purpose of the animator? Not check back over their own work? You sound like a fucking moron, imagine an author wrote a novel and decided to not proofread it, this is how stupid you sound.

>> No.3382017

>>3380174
yeah, which means a redditor is more based than you. pretty embarrassing, huh anon?

>> No.3382081

>>3377938
>>3378259
its just because they're far less autistic about 2d png details than this board is, and even if they were they usually wouldnt rage over it like a toddler.
>>3378296
case n point.

>> No.3382098

>>3381838
Accessories aren't the rigger's fault/responsibility. They're not responsible for the art assets. Either Gura didn't want any or Nachomama was too lazy to include them.
>>3381934
You realize that's why authors have editors right, you fucking smoothbrain? There's only so much you can catch with your own eye while reviewing your own work. Virtually every artistic or scientific profession has some sort of QC involved just to get a second opinion before release.

>> No.3382110

>>3380174
Lmao stop pretending like you belong here redditor

>> No.3382120

>>3381934
Of course the animator checks his own work, but its the job of the client (in this case hololive) to tell the animator that his work is bad and needs to be reworked.

>> No.3382122

>>3381382
What is this revisionist history shit? Reddit was shitposting in ignorance while everything was getting taken down. One of the fags from /jp/ had to break containment and make a post about it there before they even noticed anything was happening, and even then it barely cracked the front page and got taken down after a while.

>> No.3382168

>>3379815
yeah, KFP are retards

>> No.3382188

>>3381800

Even if its not Cover's role, its still their brand. 190k people watched that and probably most of those exclusively watch Gura. They see the bad rigging, it will seriously reflect the Cover brand. I think they have some sort of responsibility for this at least.

>> No.3382190

>>3381777
>It took until 2M for Gura to be OK with celebrating a milestone after her fanbase shit on Fubuki when she hit 1M, poor girl is going to be traumatized again.
Amazing that its so well upvoted.

>> No.3382207
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>>3382098
This is extreme cope. Come on bro, this is actually embarrassing. This is like me in middle school learning Photoshop trying to put cat ears on my friends that's how bad it is. If this person didn't see their own work was horrid then they should legit be let go from the project.

>> No.3382217

>>3380174
>shitting on meme review is based
50 cents have been deposited into your account

>> No.3382253

>>3381800
That's not how it works in video game development, animation or pretty much any industry where QC is imperative. It is incumbent upon the patron to set a quality standard for a contractor to follow. If you don't do that, then situations like this one end up happening. You just can't expect a Holo to do her own quality control and much less trust that your contractor provided a quality product blindly.

>> No.3382264
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3382264

>>3376706
chumbuds really are the worst fanbase outside of here

>> No.3382298

>>3381800
I hired a programmer to help me with some busy gui work for a bot project. You bet my ass I made sure they followed my standards. Cover dropped the ball in following basic QA.

>> No.3382302

>>3382122
Just because they didn't notice it at first doesn't mean they didn't cause a shitstorm after they noticed it was happening. There would be a post after another video was deleted. And the fucking thread that started when subaru's streams were straight up deleted was all them shitting on cover incompetence.

>> No.3382330

>>3382188
>>3382120
This isn't how it works when you work with independent contractors in vtubing, most people are aware the riggers are given one-offs by Cover, they aren't Cover employees so all the heat is put on the rigger and not Cover.
The people ITT blaming Cover are fucking morons despite Cover themselves being morons

>> No.3382364
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3382364

hate gura's rigger all you want but this is the same rigger that botched gura's rigging so bad gura's nude body was seen by her genmates during the testing phase
sounds pretty based to me

>> No.3382412
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3382412

>wahhhhhh it's covers fault

Yeah after this guy gave Anya the massive tits she loathes on her model, fucked Gura's default and now fucked her first outfit.
I'm sure it's been Cover's fault 3 out of 3 times totally not this guy's awful track record

>> No.3382426

>>3382330
it IS cover's job to do the final QC if they want to protect their image

>> No.3382432

>>3382207
Nobody is saying the rigging is good, the point is it's Cover's responsibility to review it and catch these mistakes because the rigger may have missed them after staring at the model for probably hundreds of hours.
I can tell you've never actually paid for commissioned work before, because even independent art commissions will have a step near the end where the artist shows you their work and asks for any criticism or desired changes so they can fix it if it's not good enough or they missed anything. This is a totally normal part of the process that Cover seemingly dropped the ball on. We know they have no QC for these models because Anya's model had horrible rigging too and they never bothered to fix it before her debut.

>> No.3382437

>>3382264
Fuck off, people complaining that their oshi gets a shit rig even by indi standards is completely valid.
I'm sure you KFP fucks would have done the same if Kiara had gotten shat on to such degree in front of 200k viewers.

>> No.3382471

>>3381934
>imagine an author wrote a novel and decided to not proofread it
That's why you have an editor retard.

>> No.3382474

>>3382412
It's Cover's fault for keeping the guy after all the fuck ups.

>> No.3382476

>>3382412
What the fuck is with you retards defending Cover. They should be on top of this shit. Starting to think their are unironic Cover shills here

>> No.3382492

>>3382412
It's partially Cover's fault for not putting him on a blacklist after what he did to Anya. God I hope they just hire a new rigger to completely redo it.

>> No.3382527

>>3382437
you remember that iofi incident?? kek

>> No.3382615

>>3382364
wait wait hold the fuck up
I thought the "naked gura" incident happened in real life. Like all the roommates met up at Gura's house and Gura walked in naked after a shower.

>> No.3382643

>>3382437
Anon everyone has been complaining about Kiara's original model ever since her debut. KFPfags just keep that shit to their fan discords instead of spamming the official subreddit until it gets locked. Cumbuds are legitimately insane.

>> No.3382650

Why can't people understand that it's the talent and manager who chose the rigger? You think the suits at cover cares? If anything jenma is the one to blame.

>> No.3382665

Fuck being nice, Gura repeatedly gets the short end of the stick, hound these fuckers and maybe they will actually fix her model like they did for Coco and Nene.

>> No.3382666

Imagine if NijiEN came out of the woodwork right now to debut with actually good rigs just to make Cover look bad. Sadly though, they don't have the balls to do it.

>> No.3382695

>>3382615
>just showering at the office oops
anon...

>> No.3382709

>>3382615
...

>> No.3382717

>>3382527
Yeah, some chink trolled her and she retweeted it that shit for whatever reason.
Bitch is retarded.

>> No.3382721

>>3382615
how fucking new are you. Never watched the stream? Not even a clip?

>> No.3382746

>>3382412
It's not either/or. A garbage rigger handed a garbage product to Cover and Cover said "hm, looks fine to me!"

>> No.3382769

>>3382643
They are literally 12 year olds that don't think about doing anything.

>> No.3382770

>>3379412
I saw better ones posted by fans, I was more interested in Gura's new outfit but left disappointed. So far my fav are Kiara>Ina>Calli. We'll see if that changes once I see Watson's.

>> No.3382789

>>3382717
Chink? That's news to me. I thought chumbuds attacked Iofi for not translating Japanese properly?

>> No.3382808

>>3382643
>Cumbuds are legitimately insane.
Which makes me wonder why Cover went ahead with this reveal knowing they are known to go mental, they knew in advance it was shit, and yet all they are doing is locking threads on reddit.
Fuckers should have delayed it until it was finished.

>> No.3382818

>>3382666
There is no NijiEN, nijifag

>> No.3382831

>>3382615
Anon...They all live in totally different countries. Ame and Gura are in th US, Ina is Canada, Mori is in Japan and Kiara's in Austria.

>> No.3382842

>>3382666
Holy shit that would be fucking hillarious. missed opportunity if they don't.

>> No.3382852

>>3381146
Which was a huge mistake since the outfit reveals got scheduled in the same order as the vtuber debuts themselves. Also doesn't help that even if you ignore Huke pushing the cat ears on Kiara (which of course she'll take), Nacho's designs are on the generic side even if she can draw really well.

>> No.3382864
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3382864

"You're rushing her model so that you can watch everyone around her get angry at you! Think COVER! You're leaving the mascot of the entire Holo EN out to dry! She'll outrun every other Vtuber out there! Even after your company dies she will still have her legacy! Everyone and everything you know will be gone! What will you have after 500 yabs?"

>> No.3382901

>>3382412
That nigger was also in charge of Matsuri's first Live2D and Coco's original model, both absolute dogshit and both redone later to compensate for the lack of polish. Either this guy is Yagoo's relative or he is blackmailing cover, because I cannot comprehend how the fuck you hire this guy after 4 fuck ups of that magnitude.

>> No.3382920
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3382920

>>3376802
Kiara doesn't need help getting depressed. All she needs to do is look at her sub count

>> No.3382970

>>3382643
Insanity?
Have you never seen backlash to a company fuck up, ever? Chumbuds getting pissed is completely valid.
Just look at their choice of Oshi and her character design; KFP never cared about quality from the get go

>> No.3382991

>>3381842
What do you mean? This board is r/hololive

>> No.3382999

>>3381878
So you're raiding them and it's ok because reasons

>> No.3383002

>>3382901
I have to imagine he is just super cheap, because how the fuck does this fucker still gets jobs from Cover?

>> No.3383007

reddit has more balls than this thread

>> No.3383037
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3383037

>>3382471
>I have an editor, therefore I won't proofread
>there are testers here, so I won't check if my spaghetti code actually does what it is supposed to. It even compiles!
Everyone fucked up, including the nonexistent QC. I don't get why you dumb fucks are singling out a single party, everyone could have prevented it but none did.

>> No.3383045

>>3382970
so true king

>> No.3383068

>>3382999
faggot what sort of level of projecting are you even on with your statement?

>> No.3383128

RIGGER HATE

>> No.3383143

>>3382789
No, a single chink called Iofi out and compared her to Kiara. Iofi takes this an attack and creates a whole drama by herself.

>> No.3383161

>>3382650
>it's the talent and manager who chose the rigger
what kind of retard are you

>> No.3383224

>>3383037
It's like you missed the point completely. The rigger fucked up and Cover fucked up for not looking at it before debuting it. Even Gura fucked up by being a basic bitch and not requesting accessories and only asked for cat ears and toes.

>> No.3383244

>>3383007
This
How in the fuck is the reddit sticky more critical of that shit rigging and Cover, than this fucking place that somehow are trying to blame that shit on Gura and her fans?

>> No.3383274

>>3380562
Nigger 35p and Marinefags made Miko and Marine naked dogeza to the fujo artist because they didn't stop harassing her.

>> No.3383277

>>3382364
Well, apparently she has no fucking body, everybody saw the fucking hole where her neck meets her dress. I'm kinda thinking that whole story is sus.

>> No.3383288

>>3382831
Yes I am aware but I thought maybe they met up somehow in the early days. I was super confused every time they said something about that story.

>>3382721
I was going off of Ina's recount of the story, which made it sound very much like it happened in real life. https://youtu.be/w5XTPvVfOyI
Its really hard to differentiate between real life stories and online stories due to how the holos obfuscate the line between reality and their avatars.

>> No.3383307

>>3383244
Because this place is already pretty much Reddit. Look at how many people suck Cover's dick on a daily basis

>> No.3383319

>>3383244
There has been an increase in people coming over from reddit and they are trying to fit in too hard

>> No.3383323

>>3383244
The ones trying to blame gura and chumbuds are gura antis seething that she broke the viewership record and trying to find a way to attack her.

>> No.3383356

>>3380797
did this breakdown happen on stream or twitter? either way that fucking sucks.

>> No.3383361
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So, there is like zero chance that they will actually fix this shit, right?
or at least any time soon, since this is the same fucker that did Anya who is never getting fixed, and Matsuri and Coco who took like a fucking year to get fixed, in the end just making a new model and giving it to a new competent rigger.

>> No.3383367

>>3383307
Right and actual reddit is shitting on cover. This place is so pathetic

>> No.3383389

>>3383128
How badly is the cat ear alignment offset? 3/5ths of an inch?
Model ruined with a 3/5 compromise

>> No.3383392

>>3383323
this

>> No.3383395

>>3379923
Huke wouldnt allow it in the first place.

>> No.3383415

>>3383323
At this point they are just nijifags seething that we broke their company record. They keep saying this alt costume is so shit but our shitty costume beat your shilled company wide stream.

>> No.3383440

>>3383367
Honestly starting to think Cover Shills exist on this board. that's the only explanation.

>> No.3383460

>>3382190
>her fanbase shit on Fubuki
That was an /hlg/ schizo falseflagging to make chumbuds look bad and then posting his own fucking youtube chat message screenshot in the 4chan threads. You can tell because he talked in the exact same fucking autistic typing style in both, it was so obvious it was fucking sad.

>> No.3383493

>>3383440
Shills exist everywhere. You see niji shills all the time too.

>> No.3383496

>>3383277
The biggest rrat of all and it's probably true.

>> No.3383534

>>3383361
>So, there is like zero chance that they will actually fix this shit, right?
Kiara got something like 3 fixes she requested. The hole in Gura's chest will surely be fixed but unless they change rigger i doubt any mayor improvement in quality.

>> No.3383565
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3383565

>>3380724
Look at what he did MONTHS ago, with Anya having a huge chest despite the concept art very clearly showing a flat girl with thicker clothing.

>> No.3383592

>>3383277
You know these are 2 completely different rigs right

>> No.3383597

You think Chumbuds are mad now, imagine how pissed they are going to be when Calli gets a 3D model but she and the others don't

>> No.3383648

>>3383224
The point is that having an editor, by no means, make you any less responsible for "proofreading". It seemed implicit in the post I replied to, but maybe that was not your intention.

>It's like you missed the point completely. The rigger fucked up and Cover fucked up for not looking at it before debuting it. Even Gura fucked up by being a basic bitch and not requesting accessories and only asked for cat ears and toes.
I agree, except for the Gura part. If anything, she should have vetoed it for not meeting quality standards, I don't really have a problem with the idea behind the accessories. Question is, could she veto it? I don't know how much say she had. Maybe Cover was unwilling to cover the costs of actually fixing it, I don't know if that would require another payment

>> No.3383663

>>3383597
Kiara will get one when she next visits Japan just like HoloID.
Imagine how mad teacucks and cumbuds will be when KFP wins for once.

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3383712

>>3382789

>> No.3383744

>>3383648
You're just making it more obvious you don't know how contractor work is done. No, revising the rigger's mistakes wouldn't require additional cost, because fixing problems that arise is part of any contractor's policy whether it's a plumber or an artist or whatever. Adding accessories might but there literally weren't any because Nacho didn't draw any. That has nothing to do with the rigger.

>> No.3383768

>>3383161
Coco chose the artist and rigger herself. What makes you think gura is any different?

>> No.3383808

>>3383565
>he
It's a she anon. And her choice to buff anya's anyas was a good one

>> No.3383844

>>3383323
All of Nijisanji and Sony loses to a badly rigged cat shark loli. The absolute state of Niggersanji!

>> No.3383866
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3383866

>>3383565
>concept art very clearly showing a flat girl
except it doesn't. it clearly shows a chest

>> No.3383938

>>3383744
The bag is an accessory. Sure, it's just one thing but that one's on Gura for not turning it on after the full reveal. Come to think of it, she could have shown the model without cat ears too.

>> No.3384226

>>3382643
oh you want to talk about insane chicken fuckers remember kfp truck kun and his attempt to bring kiara to a truck show

>> No.3384242

>>3383460
Fuck hlg they tried to get Towa in actual trouble for joining and thanking her fan discord, that is until Narukami laughed at them like the faggots they are.

>> No.3384271

>>3379369
Poor Gura, she's the most popular vtuber right now and I'm sure she's very upset about it :(

>> No.3384287

>>3383744
If only Cover had actually made the rigger fix the ayy lmao head transformation

>> No.3384314

>>3383663
speaking of, will those 3D models have even more problems than Nenechi lagging and Robel apparently having a default rig for his model + Yaoi hands?

>> No.3384372

>>3384314
The problem with Nene's model was that her outfit is too elaborate and flowy I think. Mori and Kiara's outfits have almost no moving parts besides the breasts so they shouldn't lag.

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>> No.3384450

>>3383224
>>3383648
>>3383744
>>3383938
>accessories
I'll chalk this up to Gura's asset management skills (she has none; literal fish brain) more than anything. But nothing that could be a fault of anyone.

>> No.3384566

>>3384242
It wasn't even an issue anyways, A-chan was there, Management give them an okay.

>> No.3385279

>>3379923
KFP usually has Youtube to complain about, but nobody really cares if you throw a shitfit complaining to Youtube, because they know Susan isn't listening anyway.

>> No.3385480

>>3381508
Lmfao cover is fucking dogshit I can't wait until this company gets surpassed by someone competent, hopefully poaching all their girls in process.
How does this shit not get caught in initial stages of testing
>BIGGEST VTUBER IN ORGANIZATION
HAAAAHAHAAAAHHAHHAHAAH

>> No.3385795
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3385795

IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE

>> No.3385801

>>3376706
>don't bad mouth her rigger or cover
lmao, how about no. Next time do your fucking jobs properly instead. Don't bitch and moan when someone points out your laziness and fuck-ups

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>>3385795

>> No.3385869

>>3381508
Anyone got a gif or webm of old gura's face so we can compare?

>> No.3385963

>>3377986
I agree with the ears and the clothes but checked the original design and O believe the tail isn’t transparent, the parts that supposedly are transparent have that same color in the original design, idk why but it seems it has been done multicolor

>> No.3386047

>>3385963
if you watch the tail in motion it does show whats behind it anon

>> No.3386050

>>3377955
I don't watch her but I'd kiss buff Nyanners' biceps.

>> No.3386123

>>3383866
Those aren't tits; its a baggy dress - you know, her whole gimmick of being fluffy? At the very least the rigger should have confirmed with the artist instead of assuming.

>> No.3386257

>>3383866
RIGGER CHAN IS THAT YOU

>> No.3386350

>>3383565
So, are they ever going to fix this, or is Anya just forced into the Oppai Loli role even though she explicitly asked to not have it? Even if they replace the rigger with a competent one, people are just gonna ditch, and her viewerbase is low enough as it is.

>> No.3386362

>>3379412
The sandals are good....
For a beach outfit
A swimsuit and a ribbon would have been much better, the outfit is cute but kinda off, the rigger showed the ears can be removed and it looks much better that way, not because of the problems with the ears but overall cat ears as cute as they can be don’t look good on Gura, no cat ears a more “summery” outfit and the sandals are good maybe without the heel

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>>3386123
>>3386257
Notice the curve and how it's overlapping the arm. Blame the concept design for making it appear she has a chest if that wasn't the intention.

>> No.3386393

>>3379518
This hurts since I both watch Gura, Anya and Holostars mainly

>> No.3386535

are we talking about riggers or niggers?

>> No.3386573

>>3386535
Despite only making up 13% of staff, riggers are responsible for at least 50% of yabs.
Statistics just don't lie, anon. Riggers may be the most dangerous aspect of vtubing.
Somethin' to think about.

>> No.3386702

>>3382615
They were seeing their real faces trough webcam and Gura walked in naked

>> No.3386720

>>3386535
We're talking about people who annoy you.

>> No.3386757

>>3384314
Those problems were Cover and only Cover being incompetent. As long as the 3D models ain't shit (e.g. Kagura Mea) and historically no Holos were shit, the rigging and problems can be fixed at anytime. The one where Gura and Anya's Live2D rigging being awful is the fault of a contractor and hassling contractors are a pain in the ass due to them not being in-house.

>> No.3386796

>>3386350
Sadly she’ll have to wait for a new outfit, this also brought some problems some weeks ago but people forgot about it because part of the fault was Anya’s mama drawing style that looked like all Loli characters had huge badonkers

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