/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3379471
>Gura depressed even though she was clearly happy.

But you don't understand, I have to seethe and harass a random rigger online because of a minor, easily fixable flaw in my fictional oshi's body.

cumbuds can't help themselves they need to uuuuuoooooooooooooooooooooooooh

>>3379471
>You realize that Gura is likely depressed over this, right?
Disappointed over the shit rigging you mean, so the fans tearing that garbage rigger a new one until Cover is forced to fix it will, yes indeed, help her.

>>3379471
tell that to the redditors and twittards

Where will she move to next?

>>3379519

The shitty face rigging that's been an issue since her original model has not been fixed yet and is even more visible on this model. It's not only about the ears you retard

>>3379471
She is very good at faking happiness on stream then and you have profound mid reading and farseeing abilities.

>>3379471
Depressed about the threats maybe but greatly relieved that people are pointing out shit she probably noticed herself. Gura needs someone to speak for her, unfortunately her manager isnt going to fucking do it.

>>3379471
I blame kiara

>>3379471
like kfp cares

>>3379541
onlyfans

>>3379596
So you condone the harassment toward the rigger?

>>3379471
She just made like $5k off of an hour long stream. I’m sure she’s balling her eyes out

>>3379596
And the face is fixable as well. Still doesn't justify the sheer amount of seethe.

>>3379471
>You're not helping her, you're hurting her.
I like to see girls that I like hurt.

>>3379603
What are you trying to say?

>>3379519
Post proof the rigger was harassed

>>3379471
Rigging has not been 'quickly fixed' for eight months. It's time, in her own words, to 'tear the bandaid off'.

>>3379871

>>3379992
OH NO NO NO TACOKEKS EXPLAIN YOURSELF

>>3379471
Fundamentally misunderstanding something OP. This was always going to happen, people aren't just going to overlook shitty design mistakes on one of the biggest vtubers. This will hopefully be an eye-opening lesson for Cover, the management, the artists, whoever to have better quality assurance

>>3379992
Wow there's actually proof this time. I've never been in this situation.

>>3379871
subreddit got locked the fuck down

>>3380048
I hope you are right this time anon... I really do...

>>3379471
Gura is fine, she'll be under the weather for a day and she'll be okay

>>3380107
>Be. Nice. Rule 1.
What the fuck, enforced positivity is actually a thing? And it's rule number one, too.

>>3379992
>direct attack
Kek

>>3379697
yeah of course
i mean nijikeks shouldn't have monopoly on violence

>>3380204
It's Reddit, the fuck did you expect?

>>3380048
>This will hopefully be an eye-opening lesson for Cover
you gotta be delusional to believe this. when shit like this happens it's always the no-name artist/rigger/whatever that gets all the hate. in the eyes of the average redditcuck, cover can do no wrong

>>3379992
that's harassment?

>>3380204
I don't think they mean 'be positive', just don't be an absolute seething tard about it, which I imagine a lot of Redditfags and Twitterati are acting like right now.

Good

>>3379623
>Gura needs someone to speak for her
damn, I thought chumkids liked their oshi

>>3380107
>please don't criticize us when we fuck up
how is Cover an actual company?

>>3380204
>I can't be a cunt with no reprecussions? Wtf??

>>3380320
>It's fine when WE do it!

>>3379992
I don't appreciate this rude fellow using Ina's face for his attack.

>>3379992
pointing out her shit work isn't harrasing

Chumbuds once again proving themselves to be the most aids-riddled fanbase

>>3380328
Honestly? Blind luck and an excellent hiring department, nothing more. If they were in any other industry they'd be bankrupt years ago.

>>3380307
Harassment is a meaningless term that losers use to get sympathy points, where have you been the last 5 years?

>>3379471
GURA SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

ONLY THE BEST FOR THE BEST
NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS

>>3380267
I did say hopefully, but yeah likely they won't actually do shit.

>>3380204
It's the OFFICIAL subreddit. Cover would never want their own subreddit saying nigger and have harassment posts all over the place, especially when there are actual holo's over there.

>>3380383
You can be critical of somebody's work without being an absolute dickbag.

KFPs would never...

>>3379992
O H N O
C R I TI C I S M!

WELL TIME TO KILL MYSELF NOW

>>3379541
My house

Hi Varz

>>3380535
abloo bloo, still not harassment, just people shitting in her shit job, not on her. When did the internet become so fucking gay?

>>3380573

>Hey man, there's some issues with your rigging, here's some suggestions on how you can fix this.

vs

> FUCK YOU FUCKING RIGGER YOU ARE FUCKING GARBAGE PIECE OF SHIT

One of these is actual criticism, the other is being a dick just for the sake of being a dick that does more harm than good.

>>3379471
Go back to your fucking hugbox snowflake

>>3380693
you would cry like a bitch if 10 anons reply to you saying you are faggot

>>3380726
There are dozens if images showing what the fuck is wrong with the model. Of course the majority will be just rage. Are you new to the Internet, friend?

>>3380762
go back twittard

>>3380779
and those 10 anons are all me, I don't need other faggot to come in my defense for that

>>3380693
she shouldn't be criticized for clover's inexistent quality control

You just know Kiara out there on her twitter/reddit alts fanning the flames lmao

>>3380798
Just because being a fucking disrespectful asshole is becoming the norm on the internet, it doesn't authorise you to be one.
Use your damn brain and give criticism without being a tard asshole.

>>3380848
>>3380856
SEA, every time

>>3380693
I can tell you that you have never worked hard on any projects ever in your life. If you put blood sweat and tears into any project, it's basically an extension of you. Insulting somebody's work is insulting the person who worked on it.

>>3380921
They should have thought of that before phoning it in on one of the biggest vtubers with a volatile fanbase

>>3380907
Where did I ever come out in support of being assholes to the rigger, you dumb redditard? I'm just telling you how the Internet functions. You fuck up this badly and you will get torn a new one no matter whether you are some random Zhang rigger or a massive corp.
Now go back whence you came from.

>>3380921
The rigger phoned it in, I don't think it was that important to them.

>>3380921
I've worked hard on projects where I failed miserably and deserved the criticism I got and those weren't even paid. When you're paid, quality must come with it.

>>3379471
Yes. She will somehow feel responsible for all the shitshow that her fans are throwing, plus creeped out by grown up adults obsessing over a fucking ear.
And no, I'm not saying we should let Cover throw whatever they want to us, but things have clearly gone out of hand, and the one who will truly suffer with this yabe is Gura.

>>3380921
Then don't put out shit if you don't shit flinged at you.

>>3381134
Nah, posts like this are such obvious fucking anti bullshit trying to trick gura's fans into backing off the criticism because they don't want to see her jank rigging get fixed, they want it to stay shitty. You are a retarded anti.

>>3380921
Working hard doesn't get you a pass, if you take on a job and your product sucks, then you will be held accountable. There are plenty of people who work hard AND produce a quality product.

>>3381134
This is simply the latest in Cover's long line of fuckups that inevitably end up hurting the girls. 10 bucks says they make Gura apologize for the model. People have been giving Cover a pass for far too long.

>>3380921
>If you put blood sweat and tears into any project
>If you put blood sweat and tears
>blood sweat and tears

>>3380798
so just because the internet acts like a retard you should act like one?

>>3379992
>Takos
Every fucking time

>>3381297
It’s a figure of speech, ESLchama.

>>3381116
Now did you receive criticism on the parts where you lacked and how you could do better? Or were you called an failure, spit on and punched in the gut for no good reason?

>>3381357
quoting that because it clearly wasn't the case here, EOPchama

she was so happy after the minecrap collab

>>3381353
latino chumbud actually

>>3381417
Not him, but if someone were to fuck up on projects repeatedly, that person would stop getting projects. This rigger sucks shit and yet Cover still keeps giving them jobs.

>>3381035
>a volatile fanbase
kek, at least you admit it though

>>3380204
Nigger, that's the rule in every website except this one. Why do you think you're here and not there?

Lower than ina (11k)

>>3380343
being a cunt without repercussions is a human right

>>3381527
Cumbuds are poor and mexicans

>>3380921
>Insulting somebody's work is insulting the person who worked on it.
Then just don't do a shit job. It's that easy. Unless the model had a really tight deadline there is no excuse for any of this. I wouldn't have let this shit see the light of the day if I were in the rigger's place.
>>3381328
Again, you dumb cunt, where did I ever say I was in support of acting like a tard? I'm not even on Twitter nor Reddit. Stop putting words in my mouth.
Besides, there Internet isn't a hivemind or some separate entity. It's composed of people. People that individually choose to went their dissatisfaction at the person that is directly responsible for it.
Now fuck off.

You can't cultivate a fanbase of children and then get upset when they act like it.

>>3379802
based

>>3380921
So if i paint something with my own literal shit, it can't be criticized because its art? You fucking artists and your hugbox snowflake life I swear to god.

So does this comfirm Gura is using viewbots? >>3381527

>>3381623

>>3381527
chumbuds are seaniggers and underaged kids confirmed

>>3381569
This is not new information.

>>3379992
Oh no, criticism!

>>3381222
holy mental gymnastics batman!

>>3379471
honestly? I don't care about the new costume I care most if she enjoys it.

Wish I could just pay for her to get a proper rigger. If I can afford to pay for it surely a company can right???

>>3381660
Fucking KEK

>>3380907
>becomeing
RIGGER WHERE DO THOU COME FROM

>>3381789
its probably a contract thing, they sure have the money. They placed their bets on calli and kiara paying rariemon. And Gura is stuck with these one until the contract ends

>>3380693
Do fuckbuds really?

>>3381469
the fact it's an ARSnigger makes it even funnier

>>3381286
If they make Gura apologize for the shitty model, things aren't going to end well.

I haven't seen anyone "harassing" the rigger. Just people pointing out the issues and asking for them to be fixed. What the fuck are you guys talking about?

>>3381851
If she's stuck with this shitty rigger for good, I'll pay for this rigger to go to rigging school so she can learn how to actually rig good.

>>3379623
>Gura needs someone to speak for her

UOH posters are saviorfags

>>3381527
The shitty model killed momentum completely. Gura got more in SC before the face rigging reveal than after.

Gura after reveal:
$608
$45

Ina after reveal:
$2339
$1441

So the shoddy work lost Cover money as well. Good job, retarded Japs.

>>3381660
KEK

>>3382066
Nothing will happen. Just like when they made the Holos apologize for the Holocaust. Like when they made Haachama and Coco apologize for saying Taiwan. Like a dozen other times. They know we can never get mad at the girls so they hide behind them.

>>3379471

then fix it.

Whose fucking idea was it to give her cat ears anyway? Just why? She is a shark, why the fuck did they add cat ears? Are they retards that add icecream in their soup?

>>3382555
bro just turn off your brain they are cute

>>3382555
how new?

She's a doormat if she accepts that trash.

>>3381660
At least that sculpture can symbolize OP sucking his own dick

>>3382066
They're not gonna make gura apologize like they do with JP, that shit doesn't fly in the western market.

>>3379471
>Okay the right ear is little off, it can be quickly fixed.
OH NO NO NO

>>3381357
Okay faggot

>>3382099
zoomies can't handle criticism, they expect to get constant praise for absolutely nothing

>>3382555
She requested them you numskull

>>3382066
FBK, your wife...

>>3382555
Hasn't she mentioned wanting them in the past? It's just a toggle on/off, they're not a permanent fixture.

>>3379992
ina had never seen such bullshit

>>3382555
newfagchama...

>>3379623
Relax man, it's a cartoon shark.

>>3379992
This LatAM faggot needs to leave my oshi out of this

>>3382066
Wow, you sound really tough and scary anon

>>3379992
>spics
por supuesto, tenian que ser
t.spic

blood, sweat and tears plz andastn

>>3382639
New to what?
On 4chan since 2 years ago. On this board - this is my first thread. Why?

>>3382962
peor aún, son de twitter!

>>3382728
Oh so she is a dumb bitch that went for fucking cat ears? Why, cause her popularity is falling?
Got it.

>>3383148
I think she just thinks they're cute, but please feel free to cook up whatever elaborate fantasy lets you get as angry as possible.

>>3383148
Its time ror Friday's prayer, Muhammad

>>3379797
If this sort of shit happened to my oshi, I'd be fucking pissed. Imagine donating in order to support a chuuba's dreams and goals, only to have some dumbass zhang rigger do a half-assed job. Being complacent and calm when someone has fucked you over in the ass multiple times won't get the message across. Cover needs to fire this shitty rigger period.

>>3383314
How many times has this fucker screwed up now?

>>3382962
Argentino tenia que ser

>>3379992
Criticism is harassment now?

So other than the ear, what is the face problem people mention? Don't watch Gura much so I guess I never noticed anything.

>>3379471
Why the fuck didn't they just delayed the reveal like they did with Luna, Cover knew this was not finished, they even made a shitty announcement beforehand trying to do some damage control.
Even by indi standards that shit was terrible, how does the biggest vtuber agency allows that shit to happen with their biggest fucking talent?
Like what the actual fuck were they thinking? Specially since they know Gura's fanbase are nuts who will start shit on twitter and take it too far.

>>3379471
we dont matter at all anon, take your meds lul

>>3383818
The facial geometry is fucked up so when she moves it looks like her face is stretching at weird angles.

>>3382708
Oh yikes, well nvm bout my previous message I think I now understand all the complaints

>>3383433
Gura's default model, Anya, and Gura's new costume

>>3383082
on gura herself, she asked for cat ears

>>3383055
>>3381126

>>3379623
>Fans harrass rigger on twitter
>Gura suspended for controversy, forced public apology
>Fans get even more mad, start harrassing cover
>Gura graduation

Wow really helping your oshi out there, chumbuds

So what are the chances they actually fix her shit like they did with Coco and Nene?

>>3383727
yes, you can cause a psychotic meltdown on someone in twitter really easy
see: that faggot doing hololive's manga

>>3383958
Also a matsuri costume. ALSO INTENTIONALLY IGNORED REQUESTS REGARDING ANYA'S MODEL.

>>3380371
this, in this case it's justified everywhere.

Honestly shitting on this shit loud and clear is the only way they are going to fix it, otherwise Cover won't do jackshit.

>>3379471
4chan isn't doing it, reddit tourists are. You are also one.

>>3379860
not him but maybe she saw the rigging was scuffed? I'd be pissed too if BASED NACHO made such a good design (based on something that is pretty hard to improve on), and be excited for weeks about it, only to receive mangled jank out the ass from someone who clearly didn't give a shit to THE UNTRAINED EYE.

>>3384307
I doubt even fucking cover is that retarded.

>>3384549
These rigs aren't finished days before, they had the rigs for weeks already she could just tell the guy to fix it if she actually saw it was bad

>>3379992
What the fuck why is tako's face here chumbabies better apologize in /wah/.

>>3384574
I mean they knowingly allowed this to get shoved out the door

>>3382962
Sigue bebiendo leche de soya, chicano maricon. Perdon por ser lo suficientemente basados para decir lo que sentimos sin miedo de offender un chino sin alma ni orgullo en su trabajo.

>>3379992
I wonder if Ina and the others will disown these fans.

>>3380267
>Average redditcuck thinks cover can do no wrong
No, the average redditcuck thinks that cover actually listens to them.

>>3379992
>dude fucks up
>you tell him "dude you fucked up"
>harrasment
this nigger rigger deserves to be put through a blender (in minecraft) telling him on twitter we do not apreciate his sloppy work in no way constitutes harrasment

>>3384658
There have been so many shit rigs before that they simply thought most wouldn't mind, coco was basically a jpg for nearly a year

>>3380107
Just enjoy!

>>3383727
Welcome to 2021. Here's your complimentary riot mask, michrochip, and suicide pill. Enjoy your stay.

>>3381786
she will not now because of sperging over the ears.

>>3384659
Basado y rojo pilleado

>>3379992
This is based, actually. I bet there's only saviorfags like you because the rigger is a woman.

>>3384658
It would have looked worse to fuck with the timeline, to be honest. Maybe they knew they were fucked without enough time to REALLY fix it and just hoped people wouldn't HATE it. Gambled and lost. Then again...>>3384792

>>3379992
That doesn’t seem like harassment. It’s constructive criticism.

>>3384328
100% I only wish they'd fire this faggot and put someone else on it because whoever this is is extremely unprofessional and proabably just not very good at their job. If they just make the current guy fix it we'll probably just get barely acceptable results.

>>3382707
yeah yeah

>>3384855
This. For the love of god Cover, please don't let this chink rigger work on Gura ever again.

>>3384855
>100% I only wish they'd fire this faggot
They don't have to fire anyone because artists and riggers work by commission

>>3384855
Thats what I mean by fixing it like Coco and Nene, meaning actually give it to a rigger that knows what the fuck he is doing.

>>3384951
emphasis on the >he *wink wink*

>>3380307
>>3380693
>>3382099
>>3383727
>>3384853
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/abusive-behavior

"On Twitter, you should feel safe expressing your unique point of view. We believe in freedom of expression and open dialogue, but that means little as an underlying philosophy if voices are silenced because people are afraid to speak up.

In order to facilitate healthy dialogue on the platform, and empower individuals to express diverse opinions and beliefs, we prohibit behavior that harasses or intimidates, or is otherwise intended to shame or degrade others. In addition to posing risks to people’s safety, abusive behavior may also lead to physical and emotional hardship for those affected."

According to twitter, yes.

>>3379992
Heaven forbid someone have to deal with negative criticism in this day and age. We're all supposed to be protected against that.

>>3381950
oh god gura's distortion is so bad.

Why the fuck is one of their biggest talents getting by far the worse fucking rigger to begin with? I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when they had no idea how big she was going to be originally(even though they should have known she was going to be popular going by her old channel) but six month later after she showed to be wildly popular, why hiring him again to work in this particular talent?

You just know you gotta post this on twitter and add more to the fuel

>>3385102
You should do it and make sure to mention /jp/ so we won't be flooded with twitter immigrants on top of reddit immigrants.

>>3384947
Well then they should stop giving him work to ruin and blacklist him.

>>3379992
Most of the comments would not be considered harassment. However, Simon's would be considered libel because he's claiming that the rigger intentionally fucked gura over, which could easily result in a lawsuit.

>>3381452
It was a figure of speech you retard and anyone who speaks English fluently recognizes it as one.

>>3379471
The whole thing was such a let down, Gura's outfit was just ok and the rigging just atrocious.
I feel so bad for her now.

>>3380328
Every single company is like that though. You think a company managed anything would allow you to criticize them?

>>3385199
Not that anon, but you just look stupid here. He was saying that the rigger figuratively did not put her blood, sweat, and tears into it. It was a half-assed job.

>>3385102
Do it, all the faggots saying anything against are retarded.
Cover will only fix this issue if people complain, otherwise it will be another Coco situation where someone making them bank continues to have a shit rig for a fucking year.

>>3381357
Based retard

>>3385102
This is legit just making me rage, how do they continue to fuck her over like this?

>>3385189
>which could easily result in a lawsuit
Yeah good luck suing a random nobody over a twitter comment.

>>3385267
>Gura doing the absolute bare minimum for an outfit reveal after Ina's showstopper
>Can hardly see any of the fanart without squinting
>No accessories
>Shit rigging
"Letdown" is an understatement

>>3379471
>You realize that Gura is likely depressed over this, right?
Over getting fucked by that shit tier excuse for a rigger? I would be too.

Over her fans actually speaking up and doing something about it? Nah I think she's probably relieved about that.

>>3385539
Chumbuds don't know shit about gura, color me surprised

>>3385506
It would be Cover suing the artist if the claim was true. The artist at best would only be able to claim that it is harassment and delete the tweet. Unfortunately for her, there are too many comments for her to sift through.

>>3384669
Theyre probably all in complete fucking agreement with those fans and currently consoling Gura over getting fucked by Cover.

>>3385368
I don't have a twitter account, someone do it and reply to the rigger

>>3385606
Actually chumbuds do, you're the fucking anti who doesnt watch her streams and believes retarded rrats.

>>3385631
>be my personal army for me

>>3385621
I can't imagine any one of them thinking that her new model doesn't look like utter shit.

>>3385368
The ones saying shit against this are fucking ridiculously obvious gura antis. They dont WANT it to get fixed.

>>3385539
>>3385621
saviourfags think they actually know what their oshi is thinking lmao

>>3379697
bad rigging is more important than internet harassment. Even spoilt milk is more important than internet harassment. If it rains unexpectedly you will be more distressed than if ten thousand people complain about your legitimately bad work onilne.

I don't give a shit about western whores

>>3381222
Meds

>>3385757
Gura break incoming.

>>3385705
Unironically true. The faggots leaving comments like "You did a wonderful job!" for the rigger are the real gura antis and they should go neck themselves immediately.

>>3384927
>most subscribed most popular hololive member
>give the responsibility of her new costume to the worst rigger

>>3385660
>your narratives are retarded
>my narratives are true though

>>3385102
Gura and Mamashiro deserve so much better.

>>3385846
If Gura takes a break over this I'm gonna fly to china and start squashing random bugs untill I get the right one

>>3385821
You will never be Japanese.

>>3385953
She is already taking a break to be with her family, I hope they can get that shit fixed by another rigger while she is away.

>>3385953
HELLO? BASED DEPARTMENT?

>>3381660
MY SIDES KEK

>>3385102
Someone needs to frame it as the artist being blamed for being unable to draw straight lines so everyone who corrects them can only blame the rigger.

>You will never be Japanese

>>3379697
Yes

>>3382708
holy shit. I feel so bad for Gura.

>>3386651
no you don't you fucking tourist

Why the fuck wasn’t her rigging done by rairiemonn or however the fuck you spell his username

>>3385705
They're average mindless apologists, apologists never actually care about anything they shill for, they care about their fragile egos being hurt when something isn't seen as perfect and flawless as they think they are.

They're the poison that corrupts every fanbase.

>>3386651
Gura cares a lot more about being the cause of toxicity in the fanbase and her rigger getting harassed. She doesn't care whatsoever about her rig or model in comparison.

>>3380328
It's in the best interest of every company to suppress all criticism of them.

>>3386708
He might have stopped working with Cover.

Keffiy, jujube and tou_ilie have surpassed him and should be the only riggers anyway.

>>3379802
danjyarasauly based

>>3381469
>riBer
I'm not even surprised.

>spent all night reading stupid shit when I should've been sleeping
I hate you all

what the FUCK this isn't the global thread I'm gonna neck myself

>>3383055
c-can I see the pregnant Uiharu?

>>3380204
They’re reddit niggers. Why do you think we don’t want reddit niggers here? They all need to go back to their shithole reddit.

>Nearly all the comments on the Reddit thread being passive aggressive but wanting for the rigger to be replaced
>The idiots think Gura is actually getting fully fixed like Coco
I know Cover actually listens to that shitty subreddit, but do they actually think that shit company will actually put the effort on Gura like they did with Coco and Nene?
They obviously couldn't give two shit about her in the past, and possibly EN in general considering there are no plans whatsoever according to Ina of them ever getting 3D rigs, I mean fuck, they don't even get invited to shit like the sport festivals.

I used to hear about how the chumbuds were huge saviorfags and laugh
Due to her playing DMC, I began to watch more of her, and listening to what she decided to tell about herself
Now, both the chumbud's disposition towards her and this botched rigging now make perfect sense:
Gura is a complete doormat. She probably didn't even have the heart to complain after seeing that she was going to be the only one to have this embarrassment of a rig. It took me far too long to realize that I was exhibiting saviourfag tendencies myself. Scary...

>>3387231
Its too late for you know, bro
She has you
Welcome aboard, fellow Chumbud

>>3387231
She seriously needs to get a better manager or an agent that fights for her best interest.

>>3387231
Gura isn't a doormat she banters with cumbuds all the time. She's just shy and seems to not know how to assert herself in a corporate setting because she was a NEET before Hololive. She's also afraid of rocking the boat when her fans already have an extremely toxic reputation for what they did to Iofi and Fubuki.

>>3387231
Congrats you got groomed. Pick up the complimentary feet pics in the lobby.

>>3379471
Am I helping ignoring it then? pretty sure she needs a voice in this too and might have been to shy to do it on her own

>>3387385
bantering with social retards is a lot easier than being assertive with your coworkers

>>3380921
If the work is shit it deserves to be insulted, just because you broke your back doesn't make it any less shit and you should try again instead of crying like a bitch in twitter, covering your ears going lalalala, fucking tranny.

>>3381417
>people twitting mean thing is now physical abuse
The absolute state

Damn I get it some outfits shouldn't be lewd like Ina's new one but Ina's last one was already more than enough lewd while Gura still doesn't have a single lewd outfit. I was so hyped for some shark belly and I can say it all disappeared when I saw that skirt going above her belly region. And of course I instantly noticed the floaty cat ears which was her last resort and sadly it failed too. I'm sure I'll get used to it and maybe I've been a bit too excited but come on most of the fanart was just better than this. And from what I've seen most of her artist's art was better than this as well so I don't know who was keeping her down from doing something bold and original. Could easily be 10/10 but it's just not. And yes I do feel sorry for her and really hope she's not reading threads here.

>>3379992
>your rigging sucks bad, dude
>what the hell were you thinking?
>You kind of fucked up my dude
>This is horrible
>this is actually bad
None of these are "being an asshole".
It's blunt and to the point.
It's not "intimidating", "harassing", "degrading", etc.
>scammed
is making an accusation, but it's still not harassing at all
Not just about vtubers, but in general, it's strange how there can be actual serious problems that get dismissed as being "thin-skinned", meanwhile, non-issues get shut down by thin-skinned people.
People - generally, worldwide - seem highly irrational, paying attention only to their biases and emotions.
>>3380107
>consume product and get excited for next product
>>3384984
This policy is fine in theory, but stretching it to apply to things like this...

>>3379519
If it's that easy to fix he should have fixed it before

>>3387594
what's actually triggering people are the "Gura is #1" remarks that occasionally accompany the complaints. "How are you doing this to your most-subscribed streamer", etc.

>>3383958
>Anya
Okay, I understand the RIGGER HATE posters now

>>3387653
>"How are you doing this to your most-subscribed streamer"
Thats a perfectly valid criticism, if a talent agency can't do the fucking bare minimum for their biggest rising star, than what the fuck are they doing.

>>3387653
That's just pointing out that they're not exactly strapped for cash.

>>3387782
I think they still maintain Mori is the protagonist of EN.

>>3380921
He should be ashamed this

>>3387782
sure. It is also triggering and it's 90% of what people mean by "toxic chumbuds", both here and elsewhere.
Suppose you have two brothers and one of them gets a chipped tooth, and your parents have a dispute over how much dental care to provide. The father's like, it's a baby tooth, who cares. The mother: "how dare you say WHO CARES about OUR MOST PROMISING CHILD"

Aaaaaaaaaaa

>>3387906
literally would've been a less bland improvement

>>3387872
That argument doesn't hold water when the so called "favorite child" consistently gets the short end of the stick when it comes to everything, to the point even reddit are now complaining about it.

>>3379992
You can be critical without being an asshole but EN/Global pigs wouldn't understand that.

Let me tell you about the birth of social change. When there is great injustice and people want to have their voices heard, you need the vocal extremists to make people aware that it is a serious matter, and after that you need the moderate diplomats who can explain the people's grievances, even as they distance themselves from the extremists. You think black people would have gotten their civil rights with just MLK? Yeah, so while I can't publicly condone extreme Gura fans, I do recognize they are the force that makes Cover take this seriously and respond as quickly as they did, more than any eloquent twitter posts.

>>3388086
She doesn't get shafted though, cumbuds are just entitled brats who think Gura deserves special treatment when she's made it clear she wants nothing more than to be a normal member of HoloEN. She literally has never gotten fucked over any more than the rest of her gen and in fact Cover have been going out of their way to coddle her mental toddler fanbase because they pull this shit any time something triggers their autism.

>>3388086
that's in your mind; it's not in theirs. They just see "Gura #1" shit and get bothered by it. I'm not arguing that their perceptions are valid; I'm telling you what their perceptions are. It's all the references to Gura's success that people are perceiving as toxic, not the complaints. That's why when you go look for death threats, you only see to-the-point remarks about how shitty the rigger's work was.

>>3388129
This
You want your oshi to get her shit fixed, let them know LOUD and CLEAR, fucking whiteknighting Cover won't do jackshit.

>>3387872
>It is also triggering
opinion discarded, you need to go back now

>>3388184
Oh so like this faggot
>>3388169

>>3388221
I have zero faith anyway that the next failure by Cover was going to be met with people talking about how bad the failure is and not constantly implying that it would be acceptable if it happened to Mel or Anya. I just thought that >>3387594 should stop being confused about why people are bitching so much about those mild remarks.

It's for the best. Even if Gura noticed herself it was a fucked rig her alone saying it wouldn't have changed anything. People pretty much HAVE to do shit like this if they want the company to do ANYTHING.

>>3387872
but that's schizo talk. The mother is just pointing out that the one brother might need his damn tooth fixed before he streams in front of tens of thousands of people, and it's not like he's done something wrong to not deserve it.

The talents have tremendous oversight over their outfits and model and the reason Gura's turned out like shit is being she's a lazy and inattentive shark. What chumbuds are demanding is the stripping of Gura's last bit of freedom as a talent in Hololive.

>Official subreddit keeps locking threads and deleting posts when someone even mentions the shit rigging
Yeah, they are not going to do shit, just hope that people forget.
I guess twitter for once might do some good here and get this shit trending, otherwise it will be ignored.

>>3388407
when you hear your mother say that, you don't think "actually I'm more promising than him". If she's saying that, it's probably true, and you probably know it as well and think so. But it still hurts to hear it said like that.

>>3388435
>Its Gura's faul the rigging is shit
Fuck off, Cover, get a better rigger already,

>>3379632
for what, having better papas that care

>>3388435
This motherfucker also did a shit job with other Holos as well, its not Gura, its this fucker who has no talent and yet Cover continues to hire him for whatever reason.

>>3387385
What did they do to fubuki?

T. Newfag

>>3388435
Wat? Her outfit is nice (Nachomama love) it's just the rigging that's (still) shit. Given what happened to Anya I doubt they get much control over the rigging, and honestly it wouldn't surprise me if that hack just finished it this week. Here's your (you).

>>3388558
Gura requested the rigger.

>>3388558
coco's poor rigging wasn't as big of a problem because it was on a nice looking costume, so it was in a way charming. gura's on the other hand is more obvious due to her costume being so bland

>>3388558
They have 3 good ones but they used the cheaper outsourced zhang for their 2.6 mil chuba.

>>3379471
I like the old design more, looks cuter, yet again Gura (Senzawa) is retarded and always wanted cat ears or hair that resembles cat ears so is ok.

>>3379525
>they need to uuuuuoooooooooooooooooooooooooh

You dont?

>>3388629
Some of the dumber members of Gura's chat raided her stream when Gura hit 1M

>>3388710
Those were the most blatant fucking trolls happening right around the chink bullshit, not sure why people are still trying to pin this on Gura's fans.

>>3388710
Not really, more like a falseflag operation.

>>3387653
>triggering
Go fucking back

>>3388710
>>3388724
and supposedly it was a false flag indeed >>3388067
but RIGGER HATE doesn't have anything to do with shitting on other holos. If people would stop it with the "Gura #1" remarks when they're shitting on the rigger.

>>3388724
That's why I didn't call them Chumbuds, the trolls/kiddies do still post in her chat. That said, thinking about it saying members was a bad word choice, replace that with users.

>>3379471
>Oh no the fans want Cover to do a better job so that Gura can have a decent rigging and non-floating accessories.
You are a dumb cuck.
If cover gets shit on and Gura gets treated better then everyone wins.
What us the alternative?
Stay silent and hope cover somehow decides to do better on their own?

>>3388724
This is such a retarded fallacy pretending everyone who is inconvenient for your victim narrative isn't a true fan or a false flag or some shit. Cumbuds are notorious for raiding other Holos, it's not the first time it's happened. Take some fucking responsibility for your shit fanbase instead of pinning everything on KFP or the chinese or whatever.

>>3388710
No, /hlg/ schizo did this pretending to be chumbuds, then screenshotted their own posts and posted them here going LOOK HOW AWFUL CHUMBUDS ARE HURR.

It was so fucking obvious it hurt.

>>3388835
If you can't tell obvious falseflaggers you are too retarded to be posting here. The fubuki incident was literally the EXACT same writing style as the seething /hlg/ schizo gura anti who even claimed this was going to happen ahead of time to set his false flag up so he could go SEE TOLD YOU. Fucking off yourself.

>>3382555
Catsharks exist, you know.

Don't care. dropping hololive for indie unless En gen2 is good

>>3388945
Hope your favorite indie lasts longer than 6 months.

>>3388473
not really. I mean, it's not about me, it's about my bro. I'm not paranoid, I know mom isn't putting me down.
but hey, a brother with an inferiority complex does make a good character for some stories.

>>3388881
my headcanon is that it's the KFP seething about their oshi's low NUMBERS, fiding all the ways to pull down the fans of the other girls to their levels of numberfagging and shit flinging.

So what can they actually give the model to a different competent rigger? The official subreddit want this, but I doubt Cover will do to the effort even if they do seem to take their advice.

>>3387385
>"Iofi and Fubuki."
So basically, you know fuck all about the events surrounding Gura
I'm not talking about how she interacts with chat, I specifically wrote "listening to what she decided to tell about herself" for a reason. She has spoken about her own personality, methosds of blending in, conflict resolution, etc in no uncertain terms in just the last couple of weeks multiple times.
>Gura isn't a doormat
She's a doormat

>>3389001
but that's retarded, anon. KFP are too busy infiltrating governments to steer trade agreements in a chicken-favorable direction (you think "one hamburger a month" is about the environment? Not eating chicken is going to be ILLEGAL soon).

>>3388932
You're such a fucking retard it's not even worth arguing why responding to every criticism of your oshi's fanbase with HURRR FALSEFLAG makes you look even more pathetic. Just know nobody is falling for this shit and you're just hurting the reputation of her fanbase further by refusing to acknowledge the truth. Keep your head in the sand though, I'm sure Gura will thank you for your mental gymnastics to excuse her fans spamming other chuubas you fucking moron.
As someone that actually likes her and her streams faggots like you are the reason she gets depressed every time her fanbase does something awful. Not just because her fans are immature but because retards will come up with any excuse in the book to deflect and excuse it instead of having some fucking self-awareness and learning to behave.

>>3379471
>You're not helping her, you're hurting her.
we know

>>3389050
Ahem plis respond
>>3388806
Apparently you like Gura but you don't acknowledge her getting shit too??

>>3389080
/hlg/ being retarded antis, what else is new? Do you think I'd defend their dumb antics or something? Especially since those purists hate every HoloEN for not being Japanese.

>>3379471
it's such a shame because this make shift costume is better than what we got today.

>>3382555
Nu-fags won’t check those trips or accept that cat ears are fucking retarded on a SHARK

>>3389050
ogey

>>3389035
>you think "one hamburger a month" is about the environment? Not eating chicken is going to be ILLEGAL soon
legit gave me a good chuckle, thank you

>>3389050
>He writes an essay to avoid addressing the evidence
Not him but that anon is right, you do need to off yourself

>>3379992
>Takos

How am I not surprised

>>3389195
There was no evidence, it's just a rrat that the guy who posted it in /hlg/ is the same person who was spamming Fubuki's chat. It very well could be true but it's hardly "evidence" without any proof beyond "dude trust me".

>>3388435
Outfits? Yes. The model/rigging? I highly doubt it. I mean Anya doesn't even try to hide the fact she hates the chest the rigger gave her. If she had oversight over that, the problem wouldn't be there at all. Hell, they could've asked the artist, but apparently not even the person who drew the fucking thing gets any oversight.

I just think Gura deserves better. If I was her rigger I wouldn't skimp out on her and give her the best of quality. Fuck lads, I mean the weird proportions when she turns her head, the cleft ear, and the hole in her chest.

>>3389228
It's on the same tier as Gura's audience attacking Fubuki then since the only accompanying screenshot that has is FBK's message.

>>3389135
April's fool costume had better rig.

Also 4chan telling people to be civilized. I must be in wrong timeline

>>3389237
If fucking Coco had this same rigger completely botched her NY outfit you know there is no oversight from the talent, because there is no way in hell you expect me to believe Coco would keep quiet about shit she doesn't like.

>>3379471
She had some problem with the rig and people are being assholes about it? Man, if you people are doing that, you're absolute scum. I don't care about the EN girls and I don't watch them, but why would you have to act like an asshole to them? Go watch your oshis or get another fucking hobby, holy shit.

>>3386802
How did Gura cause toxicity, exactly? She just shown the model they gave her.

lmao fucking cuckbuds i swear literally have no self awareness

yeah you pointed out the shitty rigging in the most horrible way and gura has to take responsibility of all that

Imagine being in charge of creating the model for the most subscribed active vtuber in the world, then fucking it up.

>>3389358
I will personally pour a river of shit down Yagoo's twitter timeline if he dares to make Gura apologize for his own company's bullshit.

>>3389384
Yes he will because cumbuds have zero self-awareness

>>3389354
She is a pleaser. And when shit hits the fan and she's the centre of it, even though she did absolutely nothing wrong, she will blame herself for it.

>JP whores get 3D models fast as fuck, special treatment and all kinds of support
>EN is left to rot, and the most subbed Holo of them all is basically getting scraps from Cover
lul

>>3389483
Cover is an incompetent company, epiode 76

I'm glad Aloe left cover. She really is in a better place. Fuck Cover Corp.

>>3389483
How much you want to bet that Gen 6 will have 3D models and NY outfits before EN and even ID are ever close to getting their's

>>3389354
Her fans are insufferable children and manchildren and she's too afraid to stand up to them and just ban people. Ame and Ina and even Kiara are smart enough to tell their fans to settle down when they get too unruly but Gura's too nice and it makes her depressed when they do this shit.

>>3389538
Never said it better

>>3389532
I am pretty sure it will happen. No good stuff for EN gaijin piggus allowed.

>>3389538
This is a lie, Gura has already told off chat many times. She said don't raid people, dont be degenerates, etc.

>>3389483
A side branch is still a side branch

>>3389532
Gen 1 ID are getting their 3D models this year.

>>3389614
Yeah sure, bro, and Gura's rigging is also getting fixed soon.

>>3389660
It would be if Cover officially announced it would be, like they did with ID's 3D models.

cunnychads, we won
https://streamable.com/61vig2

>>3379471
>implying /vt/ actually care about vtubers

>Hole in her chest
>Weird proportions of the ear where it inverts into her head when Gura turns her head.
>The fucking hanging ear
>Laziness all around, the patchwork in Gura's tail is see-through.
>No accessories despite everyone else getting it.
>This is the treatment the biggest star of EN gets.
KUSA

>>3389869
That's not how the meme goes. Culture/interest boards like /v/, /a/, and here care a lot about their topics. But they only care, and don't play/watch/read or do any of them.

>>3380693
When social media became a thing.

Cumbuds are poorfags. No wonder Cover never spent more than a penny on her costume.

It's funny that the idea of cat ears got yoinked by Kiara and turns out she got better cat ears
Guess Cover cares about SC money more than sub number. Understandable though

>>3390116
Nearly got 200k viewers and can't even manage to give more than 10k?

Kek

>>3390116
>>3390149
samefag
Also cope

>>3390149
>>3390116
that's an old image and something was fucking up. Look again.

>>3390116
>>3390124
>>3390149
Back to numberfagging? What happened? You guys can't find shit to fling at the chumbabies anymore?

>>3390116
Gura has more members than the others.

>>3379471
It won't be fixed for a year. That floating ear is distracting as fuck. I didn't even SC I was that disappointed.

>>3390116
free would bee too much for that rigging

>>3379471
>voice an opinion over a design change to a 2,6M VTuber who makes money off simps and ad money
>somehow I am in the wrong to have this opinion

whatever you say, cumbuds.

>>3379471
>Cover knew it
>let's do it anyways, who cares about the EN's, they are just content creators for our main glorious JP branch
>don't forget to make those sponsored streams and give us 30% of your donations ;)

>>3379471
nigga, I ain't did the rigging and I'm not in charge of their quality control group

>>3379632
based

>>3379992
>saying you did a bad work instead of sucking your dick is now harassment
Grow a fucking pair jesus fucking christ.

>>3380907
>being a fucking disrespectful asshole
Still not harassment though.

>>3389958
It's literally just /v/. Anyone who tries to pull the "/a/ doesn't watch anime" -shit on /a/ instantly reveals he's a crossboarder and gets called out.

>>3391663
side branch forever

>>3380921
he had 3 years to become a passable rigger, he still makes newbie mistakes, why are you excusing that?

>>3389384
you cumbuds are the reason gura will get shit for her fans

>>3379471
>Okay the right ear is little off, it can be quickly fixed.
And the perspective, her face looking flat and a hole in her chest.

>>3379471
Good hope this cunt kills herself and it causes cover to withdraw from the english market and maybe even collapse completely. Would be a good lesson for what happens when you try to appeal to americans, eventually you will piss someone off be it the trannys or the autists and it wont be pretty.