/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

love Silver
that was an order!

>>33829740
with gusto

>>33829424
I would never exaggerate with my waifu. Love her tho I do, Silver's parasocialism with her own chat and her need to be a crowd pleaser even at the expense of herself is basically a huge part of her personality. It is endearing sometimes, but her worrying over whether people are having fun watching her, which is a product of her imposter syndrome brain goblins and always thinking she's going to be abandoned and forgotten about, gets a bit old sometimes. She needs more confidence in herself as an entertainer, even if folks in this thread love to be mean to her for no reason.

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1573156084873039872

New VShojo merch product soon.

uohhhhh giri awakening my giantess fetish with this conversation with the one person here smaller than she is

The G-Man guy is doing some incredible improv with Bao

https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1573111555067375617

You're in trouble, anon.

>>33830045
Please Nazuna. I'm trying to fix my sleep cycle.

>>33830045
Says the one who makes me stay awake to watch her at 5am

>>33829821
I just want to see her do better mentally and be less dependant.

Mouse and Geega about to be on Kson stream

God I wish Zen would just completely fucking dominate me. I just want her to strap me down on a chair and tease me with her huge half Latina ass in my face, then/or sit on my face, putting a leash on me and taking me for a walk outside, tying me up again and forcefully cumming inside her multiple times, I'd do it all for Zen and Zen only. I FUCKING LOVE ZEN! https://voca.ro/1atwD2MyoLTE
https://voca.ro/12RXLmsJWUWc

This guy walks up and slaps your oshi's ass. wyd?

Is Silver into petplay? Asking for a friend.

>>33830195
>dragon guy
>matching color scheme to Dragon Froot

>>33830195
>this guy walks up and asks your oshi to peg him, wyd?

>>33830158
Me too, but this is also just part of who she is.

Froot's too cute and wholesome and shy as fuck for this

>>33830045
I hope she streams soon

this is literally just slime rancher 1 with better graphics

>>33830275
She IS the pet.

>>33830304
But it is good to see her getting out there and breaking through her shell! She never strikes me as painfully shy seeing as how she puts RTX pics up on Twitter and seemingly meshes well with anybody she collabs with, but there are always layers to each person.

>>33829821
>folks in this thread love to be mean to her for no reason
You're worse than any of them.

>Geega DM'ing with Kson while she's streaming
they're fucking

Kson is GEEGING

>>33830397
How so?

>>33830397
The fuck did I do?

>>33830584
Why do I like it when a girl looks at like walking garbage?

>>33830678
Me too

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>Archive Links:

- Complete Nyanners (Post Vtuber Debut) Vod Archive (Starting on 2020-07-17 running until 2022-12-31): https://pastebin.com/Eg1Yy3TZ

- Complete Hime Hajime Vod Archive (Starting on 2021-01-31 running until 2022-08-30): https://pastebin.com/28iC7P72

- Ironmouse/Bubivt Vod Archives and some other vods: https://pastebin.com/STax22rK
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>Some other stuff that might be of use:

- Vod Archiving guide for Twitch/Youtube Live streams that covers the basics: https://pastebin.com/1i8hF902

- Links for the 4chan (VT/Archiving) IRC channels, Koikatsu Party Character cards from /Vsj+/ and /lig/ and the website to make wordclouds: https://pastebin.com/FiAsYK7e

>>33830752
imposter

I want to see Vincent and Giri fuck now. He has no idea of all the innuendo she's throwing at her and it's cute.

>>33830678

>>33830678

Vei :]

>>33830923
Damn I wish I had a Steam Deck

>>33830723
>>33830869
>>33830916
The best part about this is that the girl tends to like me even though I'm garbage. Yeah, I don't get it either.

>33830923
>this post violates US law

>>33830393
>She IS the pet
Really?

>>33830560
>>33830584
>blah blah parasocial blah expense of herself blah imposter syndrome blah blah brain goblins blah abandonment issues blah gets old blah blah blah
with 'fans' like (You) who needs antis?

Geeg achieved such an incredible level of leeching, she will become a 4view without any coombait and reacting soon

Looking for the old Ironmouse/Nyanners VoD "CULTURED TAGS WITH MY NYANNERS". Can anyone help me out?

>>33831015

>>33831099
Do you hate the Keyfags for calling their oshi mentally ill too? It's a part of the streams and who she is that can't be ignored, for better or for worse.

>>33830997
haha deck

>>33830923
Jesus Christ I knew Veifags were the worst but this is something else

>>33831175
Yeah, I'm use to my wife saying this to me especially when I break out the peanut butter.

No Vei stream tomorrow.

>>33831068
She's into connoncon and her stated preference for a dating partner is basically someone who will feed her, give her attention, play with her, and a few other things that basically says he wants to be your dog that wants to fuck you because she also wants lots of sex.

>>33831323
Forgot pic. Its a 3 hour call.

>>33831336
I'm lazy, is there a clip of this?

>>33831099
Except everything I said is factual. Anybody who watches Silver regularly knows it.

>>33831399
Who's chat is Vei in? Sodacan guy?

>>33831305

>>33831482
Her own offline

>>33831515
This is so fucking stupid. Why do streamers do this?

>>33831643

>>33831491
I still love her a lot though. It's the small quirks. Now that's the good stuff.

>>33830752
oh no
yes I did this on paint

>>33831399
Vei just sitting back watching this unfold while Soda is thinking what the fuck he got himself into by joining "that" org

>>33830801
Not really, im just half alseep and forgot to add the pic. I should probably go to sleep anyway as i need get up in llike 3 hours.

>>33831150
any of these links should work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN9m9Egh2Fs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tsbE5TyxlJsCkCL6bsUQ4aDMeqd0XxcB/view
https://mega.nz/folder/NchUBRZS#zshiINnUJiPj7rDg5lddBQ/file/9d4Q1a7S

>>33831740
The funny thing is this isn't Soda's first rodeo on Twitch drama.

I'll admit vincent is based. Froot should get with him.

>>33831409
You'll never be anything if you rely on others for everything. Find it yourself.

>>33831815
Wasn't there something about his old girlfriend that flashed her pussy on stream?

>>33831740
What's the TL;DR on this?
Is this the "big drama" I've been hearing about the past few days? Never saw any names or details attached.

>>33831926
it has nothing to do with vtubers
check lsf if you're that curious, it's a shitshow

>>33831409
https://youtu.be/s7eHMA6n1vQ

>Sykkuno entered the date night
HE'S EVERYWHERE

>>33831900
Specifically, she walked up a flight of stairs with crutches on (yes) with very loose skirt/dress that basically flashed her stream with her ass and thong while live. Soda had to barge in from across the house to confront her.

>>33831990
Didn't know he hung out with that group

>>33831482
She is in soda chat now

>>33831967
jerky is fucking expensive man

>>33831990
i really do not like this 40 year old man

>>33831804
Thank you!

>>33832014
That's awful. What was her name again?

>>33831855
He's like the Haruka of this RP community. Autistic but it pays off because he's just so lovable. Nyan and Layna both fell for him.

>>33832038
>%trivia
KEK

>>33832038
lmao she pulled a 180

>>33831960
>check lsf
That didn't help, I don't know any of these people and all of these posts are assuming you already know what's going on

>>33832115
>>33832143

>>33832085
Actually nevermind here's a video of it instead. Warning: actual mega cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymSAzTq4F5s

>>33829816
That's not even a swimsuit, she's just in a pool in her underwear.

>>33831990
If It's keeping him out of my kson mouse geega collab so be it, though I'm convinced he's a groomer now.

>>33832159
It is 100% off topic to this thread and /vt/. I'm sure there's some e-celeb thread or blog or whatever out there that has it all in detail because dramafaggots gonna dramafag.

>>33832169
HOLY FUCKING KEK

>>33832159
I gave you the tools
figure it out yourself
it's not vtuber drama

>>33832198
IT'S A SWIMSUIT ANON ARE YOU BLIND?

>>33832198
No anon that's 100% a swimsuit. Stop staying crazy things. You crazy.

>>33829816
>visible ass cleavage from the front
I don't have enough cum for this.

Damn I didn't see this boss stuff before. It's pretty cool.

>>33832362
Those are called butt fangs.

>>33832362
>ass from the front
>tits from the back
Silver is such a bountiful woman.

Who’s the most lonely vshojo?

>>33832649
the literally who

>>33832649
SILVER WITH NO EXCEPTION

>>33832649
Probably Nazuna actually. Silver is up there, but Nazuna seems to have broader issues beyond just "no man" loneliness.

>>33830397
>>33831099
It might be a little idle gossip from autists, but they aren't being horrible, and certainly aren't being malicious. Personally, seeing and hearing Silver just makes my day better. Also, I wish to showcase some of the bad sides of my brain so that people realize that they don't need to be so ashamed of their own crazy thoughts. I don't judge you when I myself get horny over the thought of Silver drinking my blood and torturing me to death and eating me.

I've realized that is strongly tied to war trauma and the death of my parents and the outright harsh violent hostility shown to me by my siblings when growing up. Hypnotic exploration of my subconscious fantasies with Silver is responsible for that realization. She has genuinely helped me with really bad PTSD.

>>33832038
I don't blame her, this is an interesting call and Destiny has good unbiased takes

>>33832672
>>33832697
She's got her mom, her bro, constant collabs with vtubers and fleshies, people who invite her to john fucking cenas wedding and fuck knows how many others
It's definitely not her
>>33832649
The main thing is none of them are as lonely as (You)

>>33832649
Silver has people in her life, Nazuna has no one.

>>33832649
Froot. With no doubt. :(

Vei talking about school and how you can't fail a grade in the UK. That explains a lot about her.

>>33832947
You're actually 100% right. With no doubt. I actually forgot about her completely. :(

Okay, Soda is definitely knocked out cold if Vei is being this chatty in his chat. Damn, some of the people in his organization will potentially have their careers ended and here he is just dozing off. An actual unbothered king.

kson geeging really hard right now and it brings a smile on my face

>>33832947
>Nazuna has no one
Please stop pretending like she doesn't have a family she loves. She also has friends, just not a lot.

>>33833116
Are they hanging out in Minecraft? I'd be watching her if not for this date thing

>>33832649
(me)

Wait, Vei is doing an offline talk on Soda's chat? She really does hate her own community KEK

>>33833167
Yeah. It's a solo stream from kson though, nobody else in voice chat.

>>33833167
Yeah, her mouse and geega got together to beat a giant void flower that conveniently dropped 3 of its loot so everyone got one, but mouse is leaving and kson is going spelunking idk what geegs doing now.

>>33833100
He is gonna be piss when he wakes up dude been trying to get his and vei schedule line up but she decided to stay up for drama

>>33832863
>Destiny has good unbiased takes

>>33833276
Basically, I don't understand her.

>>33833116
my motherwife is so powerful...
how does she do it?

>>33832982
I have a completely different perspective on brithbongs who say they went to "college" now
it's just the last two years of US high school under a different name

Ironmouse is a cool lad.

welp, souchou is very close to meeting the warden

All these streamers are so dumb holy shit. How the fuck did Soda go this long without doing dumb shit like this?

>>33833440
You can't just pay to go to college there or get in through being good at sport. You have to get accepted by not being retarded.

>>33833341
You can criticize Destiny for a lot of things, but imagine thinking that it's ridiculous to say that he has unbiased takes. (NTA)

>>33833960
>can't just pay to go to college
Oh sweet summer child. Cold hard cash finds a way every time.

>>33834064
when it comes to streamer drama, sure
but not politics, he makes it clears he's a lib through and through

Which one's more depressed, Nazuna or Silver?

>>33834064
When is this damn leak call going to start? Let's get this show on the fucking road so I can see Vei being a complete idiot like usual.

>>33834166
What exactly are you trying to do anon?

>>33833960
they literally graduate "school" at 16 and "college" is just two more years of trade school they have to take because you're forced into some kind of education until 18

also do you think universities in the US are open enrollment or something lol?

>>33834166
Nazuna,no contest.

>>33833440
How? They still have to pass exams to get in.

>>33834166
Don't leave out Froot who literally just got obliterated on rolfgator's dating show. She's resiliant and she'll be ok in time. But at least right now she goes in that group until she recovers.

Anons take this LSF conversation out of here.

Do any of you know what SIlver, Froot or Kson is doing?

>>33834224
Both their fanbases are crazy, but what about the streamers themselves? Does the old adage ring true?

>>33834166
(You)
Now kys you annoying sack of shit.
>>33834234
Where you getting your fake info from retard?

>>33834350
from an actual bong, retard
follow the chain

>>33834166
Zen.

>>33834234
>they literally graduate "school" at 16
wrong
>"college" is just two more years of trade school
wrong
>you're forced into some kind of education until 18
wrong

>>33834157
You're right. But he's insanely unbiased for a political streamer though. His bias is more contrarian to narratives than any specific political camp, which is a big part of why so many people hate him.

>>33834166
between those two? nazuna

>>33834417
Actual bong here. Your info is all false and you're fucking retarded. Must be a burger.

>>33834423

>>33834417
eat buthole

>>33834319
So that's what you are trying to do. Okay then anon I know you're trying to rail against Keyfags and potentially Nazuna, but from what seen from Nazuna and her roommate is that she's depressed about multiple things but her relationship with her fans and her fans in general are not one of them, in fact it's probably one of the things that actively makes her happy and keeps her going so whatever you're trying to do please stop.

I deleted my Soda post because I'm afraid of the jannies getting ideas but I really do wonder how Soda got this far without being as dumb as these streamers right now.

aww, poor Froot

I think Zen is neat

>>33834472
do I trust a random retard on the internet or the account of an actual verified UK resident with information supported exactly by a website from the literal government of UK

>>33834634
What happened to my wife? She got roasted by the Groomer?

>>33834620
Luck.

>>33834665
>trusting anglos at all
ngmi

How stupid will vei feel when her relationship with Soda implodes?

>>33834485
It's 16. People can leave all education at 16 and never face any consequences beyond having a shitty job. You can go to a college at 14 too.

>>33834703
no one mentioned her

>>33834799
As much as it pains me that she got ignored, I hope she stays away the Groomer group. No good will come from being involved with them.

>>33834799
Mentioned for what?

>>33832732
>Nazuna
>lots of husbands she frequently talks to
she doesn't feel lonely with all that love, I'm sure

>>33834836
For real.

>>33834851
At the end everyone wrote who was the best, worst and funniest. I haven't heard anyone mentioning Froot.

>>33834905
A man alone on an island can feel belonging, and a man with a hundred friends can feel the most alone. It's about the mental state.

>>33834960
The main question was about depression, there is a difference between feeling alone and being depressed anon.

>>33834910
Well despite being sad it's not surprising since Froot literally doesn't belong in that circle or whatever
She's like the soft/shy girl going to a party where all the cool extroverted popular kids are at, she just doesn't mix well with them

>>33834707
That's what every streamer had that became big.

>>33835049

>>33835136
Fuck, now I feel bad for Froot.

>>33835136
Aw sweet a new reason to want Gator dead.

>>33834960
So what is her mental state? She most definitely feels belonging with her husbands considering she's made that clear for everyone already, she also wants more irl friends as well.

>>33835218
How is this Gator's fault?

>>33835220
>So what is her mental state?
Being depressed like every vtuber.

soda gotta be mad at vei when he wakes up he wants their schedules to be align but she is staying up to watch drama and leveling the wow char that they were planning to use for there level stream she just did a old wow raid on strippin stream a nir ago

>>33835307
You could have just said she's a Vtuber anon, no need to overcomplicate things.

I hope the TT tour fucking bombs and monke drops all his YT shit and becomes a full time streamer I want to go to a flower park again and a kamen rider shop in tokyo

>>33835315
Stop acting like a Veisodabro and fuck off.

>>33835220
I don't know. I don't watch streams or clips, I get every piece of information about everyone from the thread.

>>33835049
froot's both not degenerate enough and too genuine for that shit, especially next to her competitors

>>33835315
Holy shit rare Jannie W

I swear it's the same Veisperg with broken English everytime.

Fuck all the girls, HIME is my only oshi. I know she's the purest of all the girls and no man has ever touched her before

>new mike tweet
why does it look like a layer of shit machine learning on top of a layer of shit cgi on top of 10 filters on top of her picture? she's cute why does she do this?

Is silver a bimbo?

>>33834654
Agreed

>>33835559
I haven't seen your girl's tweet, Mikefag, but Froot does the same thing and she's the prettiest white girl in the group. They probably have to have some self image problems to get that pretty.

>>33835559
She's an Japanese female that's why, they all do this.

>>33835559
"People" on NND called her ugly every day back when she streamed with a face cam

>>33835577
Yes, and she's great

>>33835653
gotta break their nico nico kneecaps

Any word on when the next Pink Cat stream is?

>>33834910
I thought I heard a single one mentioned Froot but was only half paying attention.

>>33835742
friday

After finding out about vei and soda playing, i was wondering if something happened around here at that time, was there a meltdown?

>>33835779
Someone said "green girl", Gator assumed that was Froot, but it was actually Yuzu.

All the shitty bait in the thread is getting to me and making me bitter, can't we all just get along?

>>33835742
She said Friday but I think it's up in the air if she will stream since Connor is visiting

>>33831804
I hope you will use the epic german version for octoberfest

>>33831399
Who’s chat?

>>33835653
Well, that sucks. Seems like it would be something tough to get out of her head. There's always gonna be people on the internet who will hate for the sake of it.
>>33835633
Oh I thought froot straight up didn't show face

>>33835852
Playing what? WoW? Everyone already knows they're playing WoW together.

>>33832038
Vei
>fuck drama
>causes the most drama directly or indirectly in this org

What if soda somehow gets directly involved? That’d be crazy. He started it all when he got on his brothers podcast

>>33836058
Not even LSF is reaching this hard. Keep trying, faggot.

>>33836125
It was a joke

>>33833276
Why can't Vei just retire already, she hates
>streaming
>her community
>vtubing
>nice people
>react content, gaming on her own channel
>hypocritical coombaiting
Also the fact she keeps buying new outfits for her model but she doesn't stream so what's the point

>>33836058
As long as it gets isolated away from the girls if Vei inevitably gets dragged in because of some stupid comment.

>>33833338
Vei ironically likes drama despite saying she hates it and doesn't want to give a fuck yet she's listening to the call

>>33836058
not likely, he doesn't go to parties and doesn't involve himself too deeply in the whole austin scene. pre-vei he'd rather sit in vrc and erp with women(males) and mutes.

>>33834765
Vei said she'll just quit streaming because she doesn't want to give a fuck about listening to anything about Soda if they break up

Don’t worry guys. Vei will have lacari fulfilling her needs while soda is busy dealing with the drama. He has better assets for the job

>>33836154
Vei...

Blah blah blah Vei this Vei that
Think of something original retards

>>33836321
It's the fact that these faggots are gone when streams are up and suddenly get active during dead hours. Really makes you think.

>>33836299
New Vei hates that, she didn't even laugh when someone put that video to watch

>>33836321
Hi Pen, tell Vei to stream or else

>>33836321
Was Vei born evil or did her upbringing make her evil?

It’s really obvious to tell apart a falseflagger trying to stir up shit cuz they’re bored. Veispergs wouldn’t come up with weak bait like that and write like a redditor

>>33836436
Yes

When is Nazuna doing Rofl's date night

>>33836436
Old Vei wasn't evil just vulgar

>>33836510
The same day mouse is getting married to someone who’s not Connor.

>>33836510
Same day Melody stops liking porn.

>>33836286
Fr? I’ve never heard a mention of that. That’s kinda sad desu…i guess that’s a big negative about dating a big streamer. The harassment and shit would be otherworldly.

>>33836510
same day froot stops playing apex

Kson just raided Silver if anyone else cares.

>>33836453
>jokes are bait
You are actually functionally lobotomized. I'd rather 4chan be filled with unironic redditors than people like you.

>>33836717
I think it was her previous or one before that stream she mentioned that

>>33836717
NTA, vei also mentioned that the reason she doesn't want to stream because of that would be soda would find another woman and her community would bring that up and she doesn't want to be reminded of him

Genuine question for veisodafags: how much does Soda know about ANY VShojo who's not Vei? Like there's no way he doesn't know Mel and people probably sent him clips of some of the others, but to what extent?

>>33836807
All of those posts are not jokes. You probably responded because you felt called out. Stop getting offended by vague posts reddit-chama!!

>>33836961
That's Vei just being a pussy

>>33836286
>>33836717
>>33836826
And soon after she'd realize she needs to get a real job and that she's completely unqualified for all of those and she'd be back
There's no getting rid of her

>>33836963
No need to ask yourself questions

>>33836974
I responded to that post because it was written by a retarded mongoloid and I have a mental illness which makes me enjoy talking to them online.

>>33837054
Vei won't be able to do architecture or graphic design or whatever the fuck she said she studied. She has no real transferable skills or the drive to learn. Yeah, she will come back.

>>33837054
This. She's all bark and no bite.
No one believes she'll quit her comfy job that made her wealthy in just 2 years and go work a normal ass job that actually requires a good amount of labor.
Even if she wanted to actually go through with it, her parents will definitely prevent her from doing that, seeing as she's the sole bread winner of her family.

>>33837188
Honestly, I do see Vei being very selfish and self-destructive enough to ignore her family's pleas. This would be an interesting bet to make.

>>33836963
He's watched one quite a lot

>>33829578
that's kinda sad

If Silver got a bf, would she go yandere mode irl?

>>33836963
Soda tipped Mel a fuck ton of money during her CB debut in february 2020, not to mention he was also in chat when Mel did her very fist Twitch stream.

>>33837244
I know. Arm's weak. Bro's gotta make some gains.

>>33836963
Soda watches Nyan too

>can't sleep
>let's check /vsj/
I hate seanig hours

I don't get the appeal of Slime Rancher.

>>33837230
>watching Nyan more than xqc, one of his best friends
Veibros...this is a little sus

>>33837480
It’s fun and relaxing and wholesome and awakes the autism to collect cute slime desu

>>33837480
fuckin look at this guy

Froot feet
Freet

>>33837270
She might try, but she's too cute to be intimidating.

>>33837655
I'm not a foot guy but I wouldn't mind kissing her feet if we're playing around

Snippy

>>33838231
god skirts that only cover part of the butt is so fucking hot.

>>33837655

>>33838231
love snippy

>>33837230
Wth you can just check that? Well, he has good taste.
>>33837280
That's cool of him

I can't get over how Silvervale sounds like Mabel from Gravity Falls

>>33836436
>two years of U.K. coronavirus charade
F

You too Froot and Zen.

>>33838381
I don't hear it.

Interesting info relating to numbers on Twitch. The following information is from a popular YouTuber named Spiffing Britt. This information was obtained through research, being Twitch Partner himself, anecdotes from other Twitch Streamers, and paying off Twitch employees for information. He did not sign an NDA for any of this.
Source https://youtu.be/1uzX4ZQvl-k
Around 2 hour mark.
>Discoverability is top-heavy and utterly abysmal on Twitch. The system is geared to boost only the top streamers, and everyone else is at a severe disadvantage. Spiff cites Twitch's horrible VOD system and (lack of) good recommedations as the key factors.
>Youtube gives way more tools to streamers to promote their stuff. Between thumbnails, scheduled streams, stream trailers and premieres, you are ahead before you ever begin a stream. Analytics indicate all of this really matters: there is a significant viewership boost associated with all of these.
>VODs. VODs, VODs, VODs. According to Spiff and a number of his acquantances, Stream VODs are some of his best-earning videos, in spite of being less popular on paper. Furthermore, they help prevent burnout, as they pay the streamer even while they're not actively streaming. In contrasts, the Twitch vod system is finicky, not promoted at all, and is a victim of the aforementioned ad system.
>Ads suck. Not only is the system ruthlessly aggressive, but it's not even efficient for advertisers. Apparently, companies are not getting the kind of conversion ratios that YouTube provides, which explains the repetitive advertising on the website.
>Twitch subs don't pay well, especially after the introduction of regional sub pricing. It was a success in terms of raw numbers, but has lowered payouts for the average streamer. Thanks to currency conversion shenanigans and some quirks of Amazon's cuts, it takes an average of eight hundred concurrent subs just to hit UK minimum wage. In contrast, YouTube does cover currency transaction costs. Furthermore, the aforementioned discoverability issues mean that maintaining subs is hellish. A break of a week or two can drop subs by as much as thirty percent, more so for less established streamers, while YouTube's data apparently indicates that this drop is far less steep for that platform's streamers. It has gotten to the point that getting intentionally banned might be the best way to go on holiday as a Twitch streamer: between the press and the boost you get from the return stream, you might actually be able not to lose a signficant part of your sub income.
>Superchats versus Bits: Youtube takes 30% out of every superchat and, again, covers any currency conversion fees. Twitch, in contrast, takes 40%, and still doesn't cover currency conversion, which takes a significant chunk of low-Bit donations.
>In spite of all of this, Twitch is actively bleeding money. According to Spiff's sources, a hour of anyone streaming costs Twitch up to $55 at a baseline and the revenue is not close to justifying these costs. The aggressive ads do little to fix this: companies are not seeing the same impressions on Twitch as on Youtube, and as a result, CPM ratios are abysmal. Apparently, Spiff is getting 15-20$ for a thousand ad views on YouTube, compared to getting less than a dollar per a thousand viewers for Twitch's far more aggressive ads.
>The management seems to be in an abysmal state. In response to the unprofitability, Twitch management seems to have only doubled down on bad decisions. They've cut useful community liason positions, and apparently, there are rumours of a gacha mechanic for emotes, including, believe it or not, Koopy-based emotes? The bad tech koopys, not the questionably delicious sandwich koopys. Spiff relates an anecdote of Twitch highlighting a Brazil based streamer who runs ten minutes of ads each hour as what they consider an ideal streamer.

Is it any wonder VShojo is migrating to YouTube?

Is it on topic that the big drama was shown to be worse than shown in public thanks to the recent leaks and that the offenders were even more protected and even more people knew than previously thought?
Silver gave a pretty bad take with the new information given. Or maybe she has experienced some really crazy shit behind the scenes and is borderline psychopathic?

>>33838599
>coronavirus charade
?

>>33838782

>>33838782
All of this and yet nobody moves to YouTube without a fat contract. Lmao. Give it up dude, even Ludwig said YouTube is the worst streaming platform.

>>33838782
https://youtu.be/zzMo1fheBfw

Someone clipped it. His insight is very important.

>>33838782
>Discoverability is top-heavy and utterly abysmal on Twitch. The system is geared to boost only the top streamers, and everyone else is at a severe disadvantage. Spiff cites Twitch's horrible VOD system and (lack of) good recommedations as the key factors.
>Youtube gives way more tools to streamers to promote their stuff. Between thumbnails, scheduled streams, stream trailers and premieres, you are ahead before you ever begin a stream. Analytics indicate all of this really matters: there is a significant viewership boost associated with all of these.
This is retarded as fuck and anyone who has spent 5 minutes in both platforms can tell you so.

>>33838782
>>Discoverability is top-heavy and utterly abysmal on Twitch. The system is geared to boost only the top streamers, and everyone else is at a severe disadvantage. Spiff cites Twitch's horrible VOD system and (lack of) good recommedations as the key factors.
>>Youtube gives way more tools to streamers to promote their stuff. Between thumbnails, scheduled streams, stream trailers and premieres, you are ahead before you ever begin a stream. Analytics indicate all of this really matters: there is a significant viewership boost associated with all of these.
HUH? LMAO. IS HE SERIOUS WITH THIS?

>>33838782

>>33838955
>>33838932
Have neither of you seen how important and fucking thumbnail is?

>>33838782
Counterpoint: Poster boy of youtube says this
https://youtu.be/tmR3bNEDW80?t=334

>Unironic reddit arguing happening ITT
Do seanigs really?

>>33829578
>permanently getting a whore etched into your flesh

I get she makes your pp hard but why

>>33839218
True. He should have gotten korone or xqc instead

>>33839135
Look, you can talk all you want about the upsides of Youtube. As long as big streamers aren't voluntarily leaving Twitch for Youtube (permanently), they will stay inferior.

>>33839179
Vagueposting is more submissive behavior than getting pegged and humiliated, anon.

>>33839218
In all honesty, I really don't understand these guys that tattoo chuubas. And this include my love, Froot. It's equivalent to tattooing your girlfriend's name on your body to only breakup with her a few weeks later.

>>33839260
Generally agreed. I think YouTube is still shitty in all of ways and was sceptical when spiff went off on twitch but he makes very good points. Twitch fucking laughed at him and other creators in a face to face meeting about trying to improve their platform and address creator concerns. At this rate they will 100% start hemorrhaging big names.

>>33839135
For normal videos, yes.
It barely matters for streams because there is a bigger issue: Youtube doesn't recommend shit.
I have been actively using Twitch for more or less a year and in that time I have been recommended a shitton of streamers, both big and small. There are a bunch of /lig/gers I wouldn't even know exist if they weren't recommended to me first.
Meanwhile I have spent years on Youtube and watched a bunch of streams (always by being linked to them or searching for the channel) and yet the retardedass algorithm has only shown me new livestream a handful of times and 80% of those were Hololive streams.

>>33839310
If you can’t see what i’m referring to, you’re probably one of them. Go back desu

>>33839382
Yeh it's pretty dumb. If you want streaming discoverability you have to use gaming.youtube.com and no one does that.

>>33839382
Youtube recommends me tons of livestreams though. Your problem must be that you don't really watch livestreams there. I get random 2-3 view indie vtubers on my front page constantly.

Froot arm pits

>>33838782
>Spiffing Britt
you will never be TotalBiscuit

>>33838782
Discoverability on YouTube is shit, and you're huffing tankers of copium if you believe otherwise

>>33838800
I'm not watching the stream, what did she say?

>>33839714
Can’t wait to report your death! Huehuehue

>>33839422
>still vagueposting
you're not in a position to tell anyone to go back anywhere

Soda said Vei will stream and as I believe my oshi, I will expect a Vei stream later.

>>33840010
"This slime is so cuuuuuuuuuuuute!!!!!!!!! I love him"
and that's a direct quote

>>33840010
Silver said it should have been handled in private. Which is true, but looks really bad because the new info is yikes tier. I won't go into detail, because that is kind of off topic.

>>33840099
Seethe. Get filtered, retard-san

>>33840106
She won't >>33831399

>>33840106
Vei better not, Pink Cat will be doing MGS 3 and I rather watch that over being just a waiting room stream that Vei does now

>>33840169
I'm just calling a pussy a pussy. You smell weak as shit when you vaguepost, anon.

>>33840293
You’re not doing a good job of changing anything, especially when i have a rent free spot on your mind over a post

>>33840434
Just pointing out that you are a weak faggot. You didn't have any point to begin with. You're already backpedaling like the little bitch you are. It's innate to your nature.

>>33840161
Haven't heard the new info yet, but it doesn't sound like what she said was that bad, ignorant, maybe, but not sociopathic.

>>33840434
>>33840506
Just fuck already jesus christ

I don't know what's going on in this thread but I love Zen and I love huge tits

>>33840605
I love this dumb robot

does anyone like the group vshojo

>>33840557
Ignorant is what I think too. If not, it's borderline sociopathic.

>>33840683
no i watch vshojo

>>33840683
what's vshojo?
I thought this was the OTK thread?

>>33840506
Are you bothered by it? Redditors and getting autistically fixated on minor details to stroke the ego. Name a better combo

>>33840774
No, I'm not. Because you full on routed already. You didn't have any point and you ran with your tail between your legs when called out. Now you're trying to get me to get to the third battlefield when I won 2 battles already. I'm good. I won already.

> No, I'm not. Because you full on routed already. You didn't have any point and you ran with your tail between your legs when called out. Now you're trying to get me to get to the third battlefield when I won 2 battles already. I'm good. I won already.

>>33839382
>discord doesn't recommend you streams, or if it does, not vtubers, and even if it does, it's just holos
Works on my machine though

praying god kills everyone in this thread including me

A basedjack? Now I know we're being raided. What the fuck.

>>33840748
Speaking of isn't this the group Snuffy could have joined?

What is the point of this game? I think i’m about to fall asleep
>>33840841
Embarrassing

>>33841190
Which are you talking about? The answer is yes.

>>33841219
Cozy slime ranching. Pay attention.

There is a timeline where Nyan gets MGS for christmas instead of FFX and she becomes the first InfoWars VTuber

>>33841033
thanks anon

Is it just me, or is this particular thread shittier than ususal?

>>33841423
they are usually pretty shitty

>>33841423
It all happened very suddenly, too. It was fine until certain people showed up.

>>33841423
the youtube vs twitch faggots are annoying as hell lately. Also the stupid drama that have none with us keeps showing up here.

>>33841423
just you
this thread varies wildly in quality

>>33841423
Aside from yet another case of "two fucking retards arguing about literally nothing because both need to be the last one to reply" it's the same as usual

>>33841423
I assume the regulars are busy following the OTK drama so the thread is just trolls trolling trolls now

i hope pink cat start MGS3 today.

>>33841569
When Snake Eater song starts it'll be such a thrill ride

i hope moose loses her virginity (to me)

I hope vei doesn't stream today

I'm not expecting Nyan to stream unfortunately. She will be too busy getting cucked.

Hime will stream today, I swear it

>>33841646
>>33841693
hime vei collab?

>>33841616
Isn't she ace?

>>33841970
not after i'm done with her

>>33841520
I think you misunderstood this whole website. You think this is a place to converse topics in a reasonable way. In reality, it's a game where you reply to each other and who gets the most replies wins. A way to guarantee replies is to get into a retarded argument. This leaves you in a symbiotic relationship where two people reply to each other. This strategy is too overpowered so threads are designed to slowly die out after 300 posts.

>>33841423
regular SEA hours

Safe to say Mouse is never doing that fashion show because she's promised to do it like 4 times already
I wanted to see kino models from 2views or make fun of them

>>33842103
>2views
>kino models

Are these girls gonna switch to Youtube or are they going down with the ship?

>>33842416
They'll just do what Kson is doing by doing both

>>33842416
>He fell for the youtube meme

>>33842416
Gunrun is about to reveal a new streaming platform with servers that operate entirely from Connor's backpack

I am asking for a friend.
Can you marry a bubble girl?

>>33842441
I recommend you using the one Vei drew last year

>>33842476
And the money from the platform goes all into buying more backpacks

>>33842476
I love the idea that Connor has become official vsj+ pack animal, despite not being part of the org.

>>33842604
I wish Joey and Garnt got into vtubers too, the hijink potential is off the charts

>>33842738
We need a wacky non-vtuber group to form ties with vsj members, it'd be great, like Who framed Roger Rabbit but with anime.

>>33842738
Garnt is literally married to one of the girls

>>33842768
meds

>>33842738
Are you implying Connor was in a vtuber?

Fuck, I just want to go on a date with Apricot. We'd start the date out by her resurrecting me from the local graveyard. We'll vibe around the spooky energy, until we get our macabre fill and head to the pub. After a few pints we'll head back to her place, have a cuppa, then she will proceed to transform me into her thrall for the night, as she reaps my soul straight from from my dick. When we wake up the next day I'll cook her breakfast like a good undead servant I am, before she sucks the remaining soul energy down her throat, making my body disintegrate into dust. Fuck me I want to serve Froot

>>33842195
there are some

>>33843151
Froot is cute

>>33841558
Other way around. OTK tourists busy pushing their fleshie discussion and throw a tantrum when someone tells them that they are fags.

Why is Snuffy a banned word on Silver's Channel?

>>33843350
Only ones throwing tantrums are the ones complaining about them though. I did try to push the vagueposters to man up instead of complaining like women that are afraid of being called out. Hardly a tantrum. It's just that you complain and moan and don't even have the balls to say what you're mad about.

>>33843488
Try not biting low effort bait next time. You make yourself look worse than that post moaning.

>>33843404
Pretty common to stop cross chatters. Silver has had meltdowns over people bothering her about Mouse streams and shit so it's not surprising.

>>33843560
It's not bait though. It's just a weak fag that's afraid of saying anything. Even if it was, newsflash that a majority of you don't get: you don't win automatically just because someone responds to your bait.

>>33842416
Mel and Mouse have both talked about doing YouTube streams soon™

>>33843294
froot is very cute

>>33843350
otk fleshies shitting up the thread? Who would've guessed?!?!??

>>33843743
It's all Vei's fault

>>33843666
>you feel the need to respond to an offhand comment
>you bit the b8

>>33843837
And what did the baiter win besides getting to feed me?

new thread
>>33843867
>>33843867
>>33843867

>>33843837(me)
Also ”winning” is only a concept in your head. No one wants to bother debating with you because you’re well… like this