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https://twitter.com/Bottomfr4gg3r/status/1572729200762847232>15k likes
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>34,966: Naruse Naru (Nijisanji)>34,537: Miko (Hololive)>33,822: Toya (Nijisanji)>21,423: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>18,111: Kanata (Hololive)>16,440: Kronii (Hololive)>16,116: Salome (Nijisanji)>15,491: Tamaki (NoriPro)>14,863: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>13,422: Korone (Hololive)>13,174: Hal (Neo Porte)>13,115: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>12,233: Runa (VSPO)>11,972: Nose (VSPO)>11,714: Flare (Hololive)>11,508: Toko (Nijisanji)>11,249: Hayato (Nijisanji)>11,090: Ame (Hololive)>11,066: Koyori (Hololive)>11,044: GatchmanV (Indie)>10,622: Okayu (Hololive)>10,563: Botan (Hololive)>10,189: Salome (Nijisanji)
Let's have a nice and schizo free thread!
>>33812829>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34,966 - 3D debut>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Naruse, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY168x: Hololive86x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte4x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER34x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
So how are your tulpas going everyone?Mine is still stuck at puppet stage
IRyS was one of the 3 identifiable characters in DO U so she deserves credit for at least 1/3 of the views
>>33812832the genie left the bottle long ago. never going to happen.
>>33812824>KFPOf course
Producers literally make or break a song. I wish Cover tried to experiment more when it comes to different producers, especially when it comes to IRyS.Sparks and DO U are perfect proof of that.
>starts 30 minutes before koyori>changes game to rust>does absolutely literally nothing in the game except die a bunch of times, do a bit of parkour with kanata and get a crate >gives koyori the worse asakoyo number in some time>doesn't even wait for the funnel but ends up right with her why is this schizo like this?
>>33812824>I-it's only the drama buff!
>>33812885It's currently in an embryo state in my Hag's womb
>>33812938she noticed that koyori didn't talk about gura's 3D live and felt like teaching her a lesson. haachama was one of the few JPs to retweet the animation (that she appeared in).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIAUIqjj4Mgfirst EN to ever play call of doody?
>>33813004Based Grudgechama, HoloEN's 100k was stolen by the lack of Asakoyo shillery
>>33812938
>>33812925I think Irys works a lot with the Myth&Roid guy who did Here Comes Hope, but her current songs are very different so maybe that changed again.I actually like Capsule, but Giga did way better with Wicked than Deco*27 did with Capsule. Mori should collab with Giga and Teddy more.
>>33812938funnily enough, haachama is one of the holos that always replies fast to koyo so she's on the highlight section a lot
>>33812925I would say the MV is also a big part of it. DO U is a good song, but the part where the two Kiara dance is the standout from it. But it's a Kiara classic, anyway, just like her goodbye Sengen cover, it's fucking close to 6M, it's fine enough, but not 4 times the views of Flare one fine the MV fucking carry it.
>>33813032Fucking overpriced regurgitated piece of shit game
>>33813032Ina streamed the campaign for one a year ago lol
>>33813004this is what she gets for not giving haachama her meat for the restaurant
>>33813068The fact wicked is still stuck on a Topic channel is a travesty.It would have insane numbers with a good MV.
>>33812829>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day218) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34.966 - 3D debut>PER COMPANY19x: Hololive3x Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora3x: Miko2x: Ayame, Marine1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Naru, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY170x: Hololive85x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER35x: Pekora17x: Miko16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Naru, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
Guys ina hasnt been hitting her usual 10k these days....the EN decline is too real
Why is everybody’s numbers down?
What’s really surprising about Do U is watching it cruise past a king of other songs/covers by far, far more popular Holos. Is it actually a good song (I like it but I like fever night too so my opinion can’t be trusted). The chicken butt? The shilling? Why did the algorithm like this one. It’s beating most of Mori’s recent output which is pretty absurd when you think about it
>>33813161the fad is overtime to jump ship
why cant ina get 10k anymore?
>>33813124i watched that live and somehow completely forgot about it
>>33813161Western Vtubing is dead, Drama streaming on twitch is the new meta.
>>33812888Happy for her, 150k in 4 days is one heck of a hit, considering her usual! Hell, she even managed to release the MV at the same time as it went out on streaming services in Japan, rather than days or months later. Guess that goes to show how well IRyS can do if Cover fires their incompetent production team and just puts Kiara in charge.
>>33813068Pretty sure IRyS is dating that guy
>>33813145Yeah fuck man.Wicked >Capsule > Template and I'm a Hoshiyomi. Wicked was actually the highlight of that 3D live.
>>33813080https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylVF4ABZ2nkshitposts aside, they're good friends haachama is just a bit...you know...
>>33812776Hey man
>>33813161Vtubers are dead. If only Kroni kept her promise to me, it could've been saved
>>33813161This is the year that killed the vtuber boom outside Japan. No more pandemic restrictions to force people to enjoy anything they can like cute Japanese girls streaming in a vtuber avatar.Also EN kinda sucks.
>>33813263Template is way better than Wicked come the fuck on
>>33813254manager-kun got cucked?
>>33812938I still don't get how she was holding 5k just like this, I genuinely thought she'd bleedIf she waiting an hour more I really think she would've hit 10k at least, that's more than what the ENs can get in this slot even with rust
>>33813161>everyonesThey aren't. >HoloENmale collabs ruined morale>NijiENfatigue, drama, lack of innovation>HoloIDregressing to the mean>NijiJPSalome died, Koshien fatigue>HoloJPthriving, literally doing better than ever.
>>33813161School started
>the annual winter cull is starting early this year
>>33813386>thriving, literally doing better than ever.Kampai peko
>>33813254Honestly, I am not even an Irystocrat but I think Irys having a boyfriend would break me more than my own oshi.
>>33813161Dunno about Niji but HoloJP is doing great and HoloEN has been on a constant decline for months, the recent retarded drama only soured an already shitty enviroment.
>>33813004based, gura and haachama are actually best friends off stream
>>33813159Nintendofags always overestimate how many people want to watch their shitty Nintendo games.
>SEPTEMBER 20211) Bae 16,9122) Fauna 16,6663) Bae 17,6504) Gura 18,9525) Gura 31,0296) Gura 39,7377) Mumei 19,8948) Kronii 14,0189) Ame 11,60110) Gura 16,86111) Ina 20,38712) Mumei 31,78113) Ame 70,69314) Gura 36,41915) Gura 43,91516) Gura 41,71017) Ina 20,48818) Kiara 12,77319) Sana 18,42920) Ina 13,20921) Ame 15,64622) Kronii 19,09923) Ina 17,85924) Gura 23,65725) Mori 22,58626) Gura 23,63827) Gura 24,98428) Mumei 30,40229) Kronii 28,87230) Mori 38,884>SEPTEMBER 20221. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)2. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,110 (Minecraft)3. Noir (Holostars) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)5. Regis (Holostars) - 9,556 (Valorant w/ Ollie, Magni, Kobo, Mori)6. Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 (Plants vs. Zombies)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 (Holocure: Save the Fans)8. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 (Unarchived Karaoke)9. Ina (Hololive) - 12,053 (RUST)10. Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 (Holocure: Save the Fans)11. Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)12. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,560 (Holocure: Save the Fans)13. Amelia (Hololive) - 32,545 (Myth 2nd Year Anniversary)14. Gura (Hololive) - 23,667 (2 year anniversary)15. Gura (Hololive) - 38,413 (Unarchived Karaoke + Announcements)16. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,687 (Holocure: Save the Fans)17. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,478 (Worms Tournament w/Mori, Reine, Regis, Axel, Magni, and Noir)18. Gura (Hololive) - 92,297 (Gura 3D Live)19. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,983 (RUST)20. Gura (Hololive) - 16,738 (Just Chatting)21. Amelia (Hololive) - 14,488 (Hololive/Among Us collab reveal)22. Kronii (Hololive) - 16,409 (Psychiatric Help w/Noir)How do we save HoloEN?
>>33813533sounds like jrpg fags
>>33813451
>>33813571it seems the answer is to make gura stream
>>33813533Only japs like Splatoon, holoJP numbers are ok for it and Fuwa and Kuzuha are straight up buffed by it.But outside of Japan, no one fucking likes this shit.I'm glad Sana graduated because a certain someone just said they plan to play 10 hours of this shit today on Twitter.
>>33813533Even if Splatoon isn't that good these Ina numbers are still way too low. Just a few months ago she got these on a fucking kuso VN that literally no one knows. If she played that now it would have 4k CCV at best.
>>33813588Jrpgfags know that they are stream poison, we just don't care
RIP to all the chuubas that stream during school time
>Ame starts streaming >Inas ccv going up instead of down That's kinda weird, did she filter her fans that much?
>22 EN chuubas concert>CCV lower than usual gaming stream from one of participantshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0GW-T_HofA
>>33813571make gura stream
>EN3 for October>IRyS redesign for November>Council & IRyS real new outfits for December (NY outfits don't count)>Myth 3D showcases for JanuaryIt wouldn't be that hard to save HoloEN if management actually cared about them.
This is the end times fir EN vtubing.
>>33813686what sucks is that this probably wont affect gura who literally hogs the best time possible
>>33812750NijiEN barely holding against Wactor.
>>33813386Twitch and Vshojo also. Basically everyone in the industry but maybe the top 10-15 Holo JP streamers and a few one-one exceptions scattered around. Somewhat concerning.
>>33813161people will say cull, I'll say people are either losing interest or views are being spread to more smaller streamers
>>33813711They should have invited a HoloEN or a NijiEN if they wanted an audience.
It seems that GTA5 is a super buff for Chicken.
>>33813711The EN audience do not give a SHIT about idol crap, shitty amateur karaoke and the like they just want entertaining streams
>>33813701Teamate saw what she was streaming and nope themselves into Ina's stream
>>33813647It's funny because the only ones who care about Splatoon in HoloEN were Ina, Bae, IRyS, and Sana. Only the Asians (except Kronii) cared about Splatoon in HoloEN.
>>33813738The girls need to generate their own events and story arcs too instead of doing their own solo shit all the time. EN3 would help by increasing the cast tho.
>>33813833that would explain why fucking pippa keeps getting 4view streams
1.7 million subs vs 170k subs
>>33813711Hey it's that spider girl from Tsunderia.
do Ame and Mori have the lowest floors among holoEN?
>>33813795Gura only streams 2-3 times a week anyway. The 8 PM EST slot is there to grab or whoever the fuck wants it.
>>33813855yea, I'm not enough of a gosling to sit through a hidden items game
>>33813841Let's not get ahead of ourselves 7K is fine, but she already shown that she could get decent numbers by not streaming debuff games like with Portal or Stanley Parable. The most surprising thing about her GTA streams is her retention, usually a series drop in viewership the further you go, but her 3 episodes so far got between around 7K2.
>>33813897Ame's internet is fucked so you're not going to get any sort of accurate CCV this stream. Sorry bud.
>>33813913kiara is also around that level
>>33813819>missing out on the Spic market>missing out on the Korean marketwhat IS cover doing, they should be a global brand by now
>>33813849>karaoke ends up being the biggest debuff for everyone in holoEN
>>33813897Isn't it too high for Bluboi?
>>33813841What's actually impressive is the consistency, there's hardly any drop in CCV from the first stream to the third stream.
>>33813897Awww what a cute couple
>>33813738>en3 oct-nov>irys redesign dec it'll come with santa outfit>id2 3d announcement jan>councilrys 3d announcement the week after>myth 3d showcase feb-mar>councilrys and id2 in fes4 announcement>id2 3d showcase may>councilrys 3d showcase jun-jul (2nd anniversary)
>>33813711Amiya, Milky Queen, Ophelia, and Miori are the only ones I've ever heard of.
>>33813863No shit, westerners play actual shooters instead.
>>33813897Ame's frame is dropping every couple seconds.
>>33813897wtf why isn't he affected by the global seasonal recline???
>>33813984He usually gets 2-3k in this timeslot. 1-2k in his early timeslot.
>>33813841GTA is a buff for anyone I'd imagine. It has a lot of tourists.
>>33813913Mumei and Kiara are pretty similar
>>33813711I wanted to say something about Twitch CCV but there's 30 people there...
>>33813897It was 3k an gaining before I bailed the stream
JP chads we good?
>>33813897ogey
Kiara's doin' fine with GTA V?
>>33813966Looks accurate enough, you can draw a line through the "high" part of the graph to get the actual number.
>>33813863Kronii actually plays splatoon. But she gets mad at online matches
>>33813795>>33813930whats funny is that chumbuds tried to contest this by arguing that she streamed that one time at 7am est not even realizing thats literally 8pm primetime for japan
"Everyone is reclining" is the biggest homobeggar cope I have seen so far
I've been waiting for Ina to hit 7k for a while. Can she do it?
>>33812829>>15,491: Tamaki (NoriPro)didn't Aqua appear in this 3D live? reclining inkya
Do people even here even watch streams before they start to throw out retarded opinions or are Nijifriends too stupid to add context to their poor posts?
>>33814041Helps that he's not streaming debuff shit this time. I think Regis and Axel will always have solid numbers playing FPS games but they insist on shit like Zelda.
>>33813913Bae is definitely in that group.
>>33814067haachama and koyori hate each other, but other than that we're good
>>33814050yeah I'm not sure if I've ever seen Mumei and Kiara at 2k like Ame and Mori
>>338140324 in PST, 7 in EST. Kids are out of school.
>>33814098Not really, whenever the stream drops you lose a percentage of your ccv. How new are you?
>>33813588I think Grand strategy fags are a better comparison.
>>33814041fps is also a small buff for him, he's probably the least shittiest fps player in EN
>>33814089Can't be, everyone is reclining, it's just the shitty YouTube bug that gives wrong numbers
>>33813863The only good thing about Splatoon is the SFM porn it spawned.
is Botan's CCV gonna go down? Russians are getting conscripted for the war and there's no way to opt out for normal people
>>33813161just the EN market
>>33814129Kiara peaks at 2k sometimes playing games like Tunic.Ame almost never peaks below 3k unless it's SC reading.
>>33814147>lose a percent of ccv>ccv is increasinghmmmm
>>33814114Both
>>33814114>watch streamsvrabi and vstats exist you know?
>>33814129Kiara drop to 2K to 3K on SC readings dedicated stream depending on the timeslot. Also Tales of Arise and Tunic definitely come to mind.
>>33813863IRyS has confirmed Mori plays offstream.
>>33814103i remember when she said''oh i streamed at this time cause i felt like it" it was so obvious either her or her manager thought about streaming for jp time
Ame's graph became Listener-san lol
>>33814188Only for the two weeks of training. You get a lot of down time in the military
>>33813711PlayAsia sponsored vtuber? I never understood why companies like this, sony and crunchy roll would make vtubers.
>>33814248>>33814213Actually she managed to peak over 3K for every single tunic episode, you have tales of arise, though.
>>33814129When have Mumei or he’ll Fauna ever played anything as debuff as Live a Live?
>>33814148literally no one in the major corporations even streams gsg
>>33814188Botan's audience is (was) like 5% Russian at best, and only for certain types of streams like FPS. So no, not any real difference. Also a lot of those "Russians" are either ethnic Russian diaspora or upper class who will be able to bribe their way out of conscription.
>>33813738Please no outifts or 3Ds in late December/Early January, who knows what kind of retarded shit they'll do to the numbers again
>>33814308>2 weeksBruh they're getting tossed into the front line as fodder
>>33814181Then she would be getting 10k it youtube wasn't shitting the bed?
reminder that EOPfags should never be welcomed into jp after what they've done, and how they've abandoned them
>>33814264>gura will only stream at a time when there's alot of people watchingand cumsharts say shes not a numberfag
>>33814329Spongbob, Zelda, that Cthulhu dating sim,
>>33814389That's the training.
Saw RTX 4000 series chat, one interesting thing is the 4090 has twice the video encoder chips and all 4000 series have AV1 encode support. Not that nvenc is bad on 2000 and 3000 series but making it better might mean 1440p streams to YT are viable without dual PC, which means YT will use VP9 or AV1 decode and their downscaler is really good since the input can be up to 14k. It's a massive jump in image quality even transcoded to 1080p or 720p. For pro streamers anyway it seems worthwhile.
i was impressed by blue fags numbers for a split second then saw it was a magni raid
>>33814398no she would only get 3k, reminder all of the EN market is reclining, Homos had no effect on the numbers at all
>>33814447nerd shit
>>33814395I just can't believe how my EOP brothers treated Koyori like garbage
>>33813951See >>33813291
>>33814447im gonna buy two if those one to keep and one to sell at a ridiculously marked up price
>>33814447these whores can barely get a stream working normally, this shit is beyond their level of understanding
>>33814463>he was impressed with sub 3k
Rosemi in the cripple tally!
>>33814188seems like they're not sending in the rich kids from moscow but rather from poor shitholes like chechnya and buryatiahttps://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1572979369915682816
>low-floor tier: Ame, Mori, Kiara, Bae>mid-floor tier: IRyS, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna>high-floor tier: Ina >Gura tier: Gura
>>33814447Dual PC setup is still the best if only for opsec reasons.
>>33814463Omegatroon tries really hard to not make Tempus look like even more midgets than what they actually are with these constant raids and singe POV collab spam.
What's the biggest factor that caused EN recline?
>>33814463There wasn't a raid actually, Magni just ended and a lot of his viewers went over to Altare.
>>33814586for the bluenigger whos been pulling 1k-1.6k for his last few solo streams it was impressive to see him double his garbage, but it appears i was wrong yet again
>>33814627the state of enshart
>>33814556Don't, GPU supply is in a massive glut right now, miners are dumping 3000 series supply, new 3080s can be found for 3070 msrp, and rumor is nvidia bought far more TSMC allocation than they think they can sell so the 4000 series price will probably plummet half a year in.
>>33814645literally everything EXCEPT Tempus and their collabs of course!
>>33814659Nah that's a raid.
>>33814627>ina higher than mumei and faunayour funny
Until scarlet/violet comes the usual gaming streams will be a debuff since there isnt any game the west is interested on.Nijien also played too much the rating nijis card so that is a minus too.Holoen can still get by if thet spam one pov collabs. And do a big collab each weekend.Also these niggas better have saved sime permissions for spooky session.
>>33814627Nah you're fucking retard if you're putting Fauna on the same level as IRyS
>>33814627IRyS floor is dogshit, though ?
>>33814750Raids are instantaneous. They don't occur over 2 minutes.
>>33814597what a shit hole
>>33814627Fauna gets more on super chat readings and playing visual novels than Irys gets playing resident evil LMAO
>>33814659>lyingAre you Tempissfags gonna follow Kobokeks in mimicking Ninijigs' behaviour?
>>33814750He maintained it though, only raids that are just a sharp spike deserves scorn
>>33814395When HoloEN came out the JP EOP fanbase either moved to EN, slowly integrated themselves to JP or quietly became a casual. Its great for JP because from being supported by the Chinese and chinese diaspora to being sustained with EOP and gaijins to hitting mainstream JP, HoloJP made great use of the vtuber boom and now enjoys JP focused fanbase without caring much about gaijins as they used to.it was a snowball of popularity, with good examples like Towa who had a overwhelming gaijin audience from the start post yab until she found her stride and barely cares about her gaijin audience anymore.
selamat pagi
>>33814878That's still not a raid peak newfag
>>33814922the homobeggar lies as easily as the nijinigger
>>33814627>MumeiEhh?>FaunaYea you don't know what a floor is, and picrel doesn't mean I think fauna is reclining btw
>>33814911don't just copy paste it dummy
>>33814726that still wont stop some performance retard who will sell a kidney to get one of these bad boys as soon as possible
Shylily still holds the current En gold, yeah?
>>33814463Raids with good retention are always respected. These people were going to watch his stream anyways.
for EN2 btwfucking hell at least eops care about the jp chuuba during the debut month, nips couldn't give less shits
>>33814988>Using watchalongsNo one is going to take Peko or Miko watchalongs as their floor
>>33815039Don't bother anon it's just some shitter.
>>33814922But it fucking IS. Just because it doesn't look as steep because it's a small raid of less than 2k CCV, doesn't change the fact it was a raid. Why the fuck do you think it's okay to mimick Nijinigs and start lying to defend your oshi?
>>33815021So far
>>33815039Bullshit raids absolutely add extra people that wouldn't have watched otherwise
>>33815021maybe Bae can take it with Minecraft but to be real its wild how this is the state of affairs for EN vtubing that Shylilys one off visit to Youtube could realistically get fucking gold on the wheelchair tally
>>33815016can confirm i once bought a 3080 ti at launch and managed to resell at 5000 msrp alot of pc kids are at the same level as apple kids needing the newest iphone
what is today gold /#/ bros?
>Homobeggars being lying niggers as per usualTempiss was a mistake
>>33815222Eroha....
>>33815021Bae will probably take it. She has two chances. One is minecraft and the other is "Holocure with Karaoke" whatever that meansIf neither of those can get to 8k it's fucking GRIM for the rat
>when the timeloops start up again in /#/s
>>33815222Mito graduation announcement
>>33815103Obviously, I just used the lowest stream of this month, for me it's a better depiction for their floors. For ENs especially their lowest is usually the watchalongs
>>33815021How much did she get? 7-8k?
>it a raid>no it's not>here is the graph>no it still isn't a raid>okay fine it is. Raid with good retention are good though>yeah, raid is definitely good since it direct extra people to watch stream>all hail youtube raid
>>33814988>watchalongYou people are fucking retarded.
>>338153447k
>>33814988retard
>>33815358Forgive them.. they need them steam credit
Would you say Noctyx is the Council to Luxiems Myth?
>>33815344highest i saw was 7.4k but i wasnt watching that was just in my recos for whatever reason
>>33815354Kill yourself homobeggar
Not even Selen can save Pomu's channel
>>33815459anon?
>>33815358>>33815392>It doesn't countA floor is a floor buddies >>33815322
Content seems to be an issue for en market. En dont like watching videogames
>>33814726only retards buy used gpu,s
>>33814911Retard.
>>33815519imagine if Ame could watch tiktok all day with her teamates, get paid to do one of her favorite leisure activities
>>33814645A ton but lets just say there's no actual direction for EN vtubing, its all just streamers with avatars, not professional entertainers with goals like JP. EN isn't as interesting to follow with no story
>Regis raids Magni's stream earlier>Magni raids Regis stream nowIt's ridiculous how much Tempus abuses the raid feature. We've seen the dropping to 3views when they overlap. Sharing too much audience can be a debuff in the long run.
>>33815549Regis:>I would love a hololive gacha game, hololive would make so much money out of thatYeah he's /here/
>girls are going on burnout en masse and have extremely shitty schedules>keep spamming the same FOTM game everyone else is playing until they completely run it into the ground>most of the relationships are somewhat ruined, collabs are extremely hard to organize and you can tell some of the talents really don't care about their genmates>Gura's BBG stream was a breath of fresh air and should absolutely be the norm, not the exception>literally the perfect time to release EN3 to cover the countless dead hours and bring some life back into this shit>release a fucking male gen instead>constant fucking drama and the main argument is if they actually tanked the CCV of the girls who collabed with them or they remained on the same shitty declineboth the talents and management are completely to blame for the absolute state of HoloEN. I'd say the latter is somewhat worse and their ability to run EN into the ground and lose literally all momentum is truly something else.
>>33815519What's the majority of 'em if they don't like video games? Women?
>>33814878That's...not a raid. Looks like it but it's a slightly curved. Raids are just instant.
>>33813973Realistically speaking, all they need to do fully go global is open up the HoloES branch and you would unlock the Spanish speaking crowds from the world just like how they did with the EN side. The only other alternatives (the Chinese languages) are a no-go now so they need not apply.
>>33815519Time to spam tier lists.Funnily enough I'm fairly sure they would do pretty well.
>>33815322mfw pekora's floor is myth's anniversary
>>33813889In a stream a couple of weeks ago, Pippa had to answer her chat what an "oshi" is. I think there is a sizeable portion of her audience that has no clue about vtubers outside her content.
>>33815626It is a raid anon, stop falsefalgging It didn't redirect me instantly and i had to accept for it to raid me onto Altare's stream
>>33815596No, that's just a good idea if they wanted more money
>>33815628>Spanish you really don't want that kind of fan...
>>33815660Rosemi and elira are doing that and capping at 5k
>>33815068There's no logical sense for the JP fanbase to actually care about foreigners when they have a ton of choices at home.
So Selen is on Pomu's channel pretending to be Pomu while playing Apex. Does this still count under Pomu or does this count under Selen?
>>33815743I was pointing out that that is what is left for global outreach. Everything else is literally just localized markets.
>>33815824>Sub3kNo one cares
>>33815765Which is buffed numbers for them if you look at any of their normal numbers.
>>33813711https://twitter.com/obakepamIs she actually the ceo of playasia or is just a larp?
>>33815824come back when it qualifies for wheelchair tally
>>33815824it's a classic vtuber trope like that time with hinata
>>33815876Is still dimishing returns they already played that>ranking nijisCard way too much. Is not about playing what the west thinks isnpopular is about playing something they all can enjoy and make it popular.
>>33815726That's a failed raid, and yes that's what it looks like on the graph.
Numberbros, what's with EN game choices? Are they debuffing themselves or they don't have permissions? Or it's not about game choices, maybe they are not that good enough to make content about it?
>>33815824Counts for the channel it's on, that's how we handled the Council April Fool's Day streams and the other assorted times people have swapped avatars.
>>33815824If they tally, the channel is what counts.
>>33815600As a numberfags is fucking sad how they managed to ruing HoloEN's amazing start and failed to capitalize on that shit. I'm gonna be livid if the EN3 debuts dont even break 100k anymore after looking at Sana's graduation and Gura's 3D live after Myth's disappointing anniversary numbers.
>>33815890oh shit I know her, I tuned into her twitch streams beforeshe is musically talented playing multiple instruments and a good singer
>>33816022Is a mix if both.>no atlus permissuons>no fgo permissionsNo psychonauts, no square permissions, and they need to dustoff old games to olay or just pick nintendo games.
>>33815696Pippa's content is looking up various niche things like creepy houses or bronies and interviews with randos, so I think she get's a lot of people interested in the topics and they tune in for thatAlso some random musician youtuber made a song for her a couple months ago and it got 500k. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVjeWMr8aLo Just a bunch of random shit conflates for her which brings in outside viewers i think
anyone else unironically depressed by the low numbers + recent male drama? It takes a toll lads.
>>33816022en permission staff caught the coof and is out. no new permissions for a while
>>33816022They aren't entertaining enough for gaming streams
>>33815519Time to start doing react content
>>33816022You need to be Jerma to make hidden through time interesting.
>>33816022whatever it is, it's NOT because of Homos
>>33816116I definitely feel deflated that's for sure. I still enjoy watching the girls I like at least.
>>33816116Stop coming /here/
>>33816116numbers? or are trying to numberfag your own happiness?
>>33815600>>33816064>Holo EN strongest EN group in the market>doompostingThat time of the day again.
>>33816116Some people need to take a break and just come back to the next big EN event really. And no I don't mean the next big drama ya or homo collab.
>>33816167Even kroni got 9 with that shit.This slot is just posion for her.
>>33816116I just started going trough my backlog of games & LN's instead. Down to pretty much only watching my Oshi at the moment.
>>33816116numbers are NOT bad because of Tempus
>>33816116I genuinely don't give a shit about the numbers at all, but the drama is actually filling me with dread. I can only hope my oshi continues to ignore the fucking beggars but I'm afraid with this Kronii/Kiara/IRyS shit they're going to target her next since she actively reads them.
>>33816118Ame just mentioned getting Sherlock Holmes permissions.
>>33816116I think everyone and their mom is just restless from the lack of EN3.
>>33816229What if they are just borrowing the girls viewers?
>>33816116>>33816182How are people this weak? Just watch whatever the fuck you want and stop crying about people trying to invent drama.
>>33816116Anon I think whats affecting you is your enjoyment of this place. Your oshi unironically became /vt/ and not the streams you watch. Unless you're a Kronie nothing much has really happened in the last 2 months.
>>33816114Do zoom zooms really not know Ken Ashcorp?
>>33816116The homo shit sucks and I won't watch them (don't even know what they sound like) but I just want streams from the girls I like man. That's what really kills enthusiasm.
>>33816211Wow strongest group in a dying market, with numbers way lower than average than they used to. Why are you so proud of this in a numbers thread you retarded company tribalist
>>33816260I thought the argument was they get no funnel from the girls, hence their existence is pointless since holofans don't watch them?People switch their arguments everyday so I can't keep track.
>>33816246>a game nobody caresJolly
>>33816246then i guess they're finally back to workunless she asked the homo manager. the worms collab was payment
>>33816116>NumbersDon't care, you guys are fucking pussies if you care. I've been watching 2views and 3views for years before this.>DramaActually worried because it can sap motivation and coworker connections which means less motivation to do collabs or different types of streams
>>33816112>Atlus>F/GOJust what makes you think that westerners want to watch either of those?
>>33816116https://vocaroo.com/1hbnhFriaKJqlisten to this cute sapling, it'll cheer you up
>>33814645HoloEN:>not enough streams from the big hitters>too many uninteresting and debuff solo streams>retarded scheduling>homo collabs are riddled with unncessary drama and culture war garbage that is not positive in the long runNijiEN:>ACCELERATE backfired hard on their newest debuts>massive recline in comparison to gigabuff month>tourist audience is very fickle and can show up en masse for one stream and completely abandon you the next>overuse of buffs is giving increasingly diminishing returns>audience watches for their content, not for them, and content is pretty sparse recentlyVshojo:>pretty much expended every method of growth on Twitch, leading to stagnant growth and recline in some>EN gen 2 killed off without explanation, only new blood are JPs that out of their marketIndies:>there are literally only 3 indies out of the entire EN scene that are inclining: Shoto, Shylily, and Filian>everyone else is niche, stagnant, or uninterestingSmall Corpos:>the only small corpo of note is Phase Connect>everyone else is pretty much doomed to mismanagement or slow growthAbsolutely GRIM.
>>33816268Because talking about chuubas is part of the enjoyment I get for themI'm also anti male so of course it bothers me to see what's going on
>>33816116>>33816217>>33816236>>33816332Leave these threads and stop letting the fantasies invented here live rent free in your head.
>>33816260no, they brought their own new big audience, it's just that everyone is declining, the boys have nothing to do with itit would be even worse without the hype and viewers they brought
>>33816385Persona 5 and actual popular gacha.
Yes, I wrote diying on purpose
>>33816116I actually think the repeated drama is causing viewers to tune out and contributing to the decline.
>>33816421>new BIG audience
>>33816403Global Vtuber Renaissance in the next few years when a superstar is found
>>33816383It's funny cause even l*ddit is starting to feel like HoloEN has started fracturing since Tempus debut (girls who won't collab with them are excluded from collabs that have them).
>>33816406When there is one or two Stars collabs a week across HoloEN who gives a fuck? If you don't like it, don't watch it and stop letting these threads live in your head.
>>33816440what is rosemi doing?
https://twitter.com/japantimes/status/1572962383252934656Old news I, assume, but Japan will allow visa-free, individual tourism and remove a daily entry cap from Oct. 11
>>33815672holy shit
>>33816421It's not that big anon, maybe like 5k regularly and 9k on events
>>33816291Random as in he has no connection to Pippa
>>33816498Source? The sub has been chill about males since day 1.
>>33816440Tempus is a failure
>>33816277I have to see more homo beggars in chat now and that bothers me. Especially since I can't call them faggots in chat
>>33816498You can tell by the language it's retards from here going there.
>>33816064Yeah momentum is extremely fucking important in this kind of bussiness. I used to follow some Twitch brotubers and they said that even taking a single month off can completely kill their viewership, it's easier to keep someone interested instead of winning them back once they left. They waited way too fucking long before EN3.>>33816211Come on nigga just 3-4 months ago things looked completely fucking different.
>>33816523Tier list of nijis
>>33816508He can't, he's anti male so he needs to vent his disdain /here/ because hell get lynched trying to say this shit anywhere else.
>>33816523『Collab』 with Elira and placing『NijiEN』on hagwarts houses with a 『Tierlist』 maker
>>33816523NijiEN tier list collab with Elira.
>>33816523Collab with Elira where they put NijiEN members into Harry Potter houses
>>33816527Welp time to book a plane and hotel for Fes4.
>>33816593You're in the numbers thread retard. You think people aren't going to see people being on summer break AND better content choices?
>>33816064The queen of /#/ will certainly break 100k, won't her? You will help her, right, anons?
>>33816593>Come on nigga just 3-4 months ago things looked completely fucking different.Do you faggots not remember how grim february/ march looked? It fucking rises and falls
It's still freakish to me that collabs with Stars on the JP side are maybe thrice a year and EN is having them multiple times a week
God take me back to last year's Holo sports festival its too GRIM
>>33816527Kiara is gonna be the only one who actually goes to Japan without needing the incentive of doing a 3D debut most likely.
>>33816527Abe-chan... We win!
>>33815600You seem in deep need of gift cards.
>>33816654Mori loves collabing with Stars more than any JP ever did.
>>33816646This week is dire tough.REALLY DIRE specialky without gura
>>33816625>>33816611>>33816607>>33816602has any niji done a fetish tier list? I think they could pull it off
>>33816708I mean some of them did a torture one, does that count?
>>33816654Different culture. Deal with it. /jp/ was right
>>33816708Without getting restricted no.
>>33816654It's because of the lack of people mostly, EN girls have 10 people and there are some girls that don't stream well with others or don't care enough to try to start it, we haven't had a IRyS/Gura 1 on 1 collab after all
>>33816508>Just bury you head in the sand>Just ignore the homo beggars in chat or supas>Just ignore the girls literally making statements about who they will collab with on stream>Also never talk online about the thing you enjoy. Only enjoy your hobbies by yourselfyou guys are retarded none. Not coming /here/ wouldn't increase my enjoyment either. Part of what makes chuubas fun is sharing in the content and (for me) the idol experience with other people. Plus sharing and posting fanart. If I stopped coming here I'd probably just get bored anyway
you bought the amogus skin to support your oshi, right?
>>33816742honestly no, you know how spicy you can make a fetish one? Vox should do it honestly.
>>33816696I mean both Ame and Kronii have multiple Stars collabs this week.
>>33816775It's honestly insane how few 1 on 1 collab some of the girls have had. I had a look and could only find 1 between Kronii and Fauna aswell.
>>33816775It's also the reason ID gets included in so many big EN collabs. EN3 would really help in filling up collabs so they don't have to rely on Tempus or ID.
>>33816782Haven't touched it since 2020
>>33816789>The Tempus boys are now accessories to pump up the girlsGrim. The inverse of NijiEN.
>>33816708Not a tier list, but Finana reveals a new favorite hentai tag every 100k subscribers, and Pomu talked about doujin tag as well at one point.
>>33816607>>33816625Wow. Didn't know they supported a transphobe
>>33816654They are really trying to push that NijiEn feels for the branch, and something tells me isnt not going to get better. But we can't say that too loud, it's homobeggar hours rn.
>>33816775Yeah IRyS and Fauna had absolutely great fucking chemistry during their 1 on 1 collab yet we probably won't see them again together for the next 10 months. Or maybe never.Meanwhile some girls have no problem spamming nonstop collabs with DA BOIS. It's extremely dumb and I can't find a single logical reason for it other than criplling autism.
>>33816775>we haven't had a IRyS/Gura 1 on 1 collab after allThis is retarded, they've known each other for a year and like previously mentioned, there isnt that many girls. I don't know why this "omg im too autistic and scared to ask for collabs" is so common in EN, doesn't management make them get to know each other long before debut? I hope EN3 doesn't have autists like that.
>>33816890everything is looking grim for EN nowthe grimposters are growing stronger every day, and only EN3 can stop them
>>33816839Most Kronii and Fauna collabs are SNOT collabs. The reality is most of the time, they don't even know wtf to do with each other except play some shitty co-op game like Phogs or Clubhouse 51. Most of the 1-on-1 homo collabs so far have a specific theme or gimmick to them.
>>33816985>I hope EN3 doesn't have autists like that.You just know anon
>>33816915The fish is gonna educate the dragon
Talking about the lack of HoloEN collabs, Council still hasn't had a collab to find what Sana left them at the top of her tower in Minecraft.
>>33816947>spamming nonstop collabs with DA BOISMori and Kobo are the only ones with more than 3 collabs with tempus.
>>33816988>the grimposters are growing stronger every daygrim...
>>33817046Those are some easy numbers what are they waiting for? also GRIM
>>33816646People can’t even remember more than 24 hours ago.
>>33817025>Most Kronii and Fauna collabs are SNOT collabs.Yes, that's why I specified 1 on 1. Those kinda collabs are a completely different vibe, and it's ridiculous they have only done it once in over a year. They are in the same fucking gen, for fuck sake.
>>33817101Waiting for tempus to tour holoen server first
>>33816947Mori probably wants to collab with the girls all the time, but they're too busy whereas Tempus are willing to do 4 streams a day to accommodate collabs. Good luck getting Gura for a collab on short notice when she doesn't even fucking stream.Council still hasn't found a time to go to the top of Sana's tower together and it's been TWO Months.
>>33817046according to the resident saplings, Fauna is working on that collab
>>33817046None of them cares, there was never a group to begin with... EN is just a mess
>>33817101>>33817046At this point it's too late for them to milk numbers from that unless it's only 1 pov. But it's better to just forget about Sana and move on. She only brought Council down.
>>33817046Mumei wanted to do that for their anniversary but of course the rest of Council is too retarded to find one fucking hour out of the day to do that
this is your oshi's future, enbros
>>33817046EN is so retarded jesus christ.
>>33816895What's the current list of tags? Its probably shit like bondage and prostrate massage right
>>33816947Tempus has a gen collab basically every other day. Maybe the girls should stop being so autistic and try talking to each other sometime.It only makes sense that the more outgoing girls started collabing with them, since they actually respond and seem interested.
>>33817210Fauna too. Both of them were ready but the rest of the girls refused to change their schedules for that day for it.>>33817177Yeah, she said maybe next week.
>>33817177She's been saying that for 2 weeks and she's the only Council member I've seen even mention it in the last month. The other girls straight up forgot about it.Also, remember the EN-ID portal?
But IRyS and Gura had a great Rust collab though??? IRyS and Kiara too?? Anti homos camp have great chemistry
>>33817046At this point they might as well keep it for their next anniversary so the stream doesn't seem totally out of place or too short.
Yeah Noctyx didn’t do as well as expected
>>33817175Supposedly they might be doing that next week finally. We'll see.
>>33817386grim
>>33817354>She's been saying that for 2 weeks and she's the only Council member I've seen even mention it in the last monthNo she ACTUALLY said most likely next week, not that it'll happen eventually like all the times before.
>>33817210mumei is the worst offender for thatshe only has like3 hours free every day and her dog can shit on them if it wants.
>>33817354>EN-ID portalEN just doesn't give a shit. The JPs are way more accommodating because they have an image to preserve and get along with ID since PekoMoona.
>>33817386They beat that bluefaggot if you add up the viewer
>>33817386But if you combine their ccvs...
>>33817413>most likely next weekit's not happening next week is it
>>33817046why would they put themselves in such an awkward situation jesas most of their audience probably even forgot sana exists
>>33817479Kronii would kill herself before she streams Minecraft again and gets 15k+
>>33817452Bae and Fauna do. The rest don't. They just decided to not play anymore for whatever reason. >>33817479We can only hope Fauna actually tard wrangles them like she did for the Ender Dragon, but yeah...
>>33813156Another month for HololiveHololive is too powerful
>>33817474>>33817477Anons...
>>33816654Exposure grind and lack of partner mostly. When you start on a new branch with only a handful of people with you and you need to grind for exposure with collabs, you just don't get to chooseMyth didn't lack exposure, so they didn't to grind for it. As a result, they were considered collabs lacking at the time. People were complaining about their lacks of collab with other branches especially JPID1 was another different case. They need to grind for exposure but JP on large were not really giving them much attention. As a result, they mostly collab with StarJP, HoloCN, and some indie or non-hololive corpoTempus start with only 4 people. They are not instant success like Myth or Luxiem. They need to grind for exposures and the only branch they can go for are HoloEN, HoloID and StarJP. Out of them, HoloEN is simply the most effective with their large audiencesThose collabs didn't do much for ID1 though
>>33817479Kronii and irys hate the block game now so no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP0yRVe1Lsshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP0yRVe1Lsshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP0yRVe1Lss... Does she play the game? Also I though she's back in the State ...
>>33817348Yeah the girls are retarded and completely at fault but spamming male collabs isn't exactly the ideal solution. Again both the talents and management are both to blame, I genuinelly believe there isn't a single normal person working in that company, it's like watching a group of chimps pilot a rocket.
>>33817348Kill yourself homobeggar
>>33817354Everyone was waiting for Ame to organize the portal relay and Ame was waiting for Kiara to organize the relay. Kiara said fuck no since she's not going to organize a large collab that she can't even participate in.
>>33817588>Does she play this gameProbably not1>Also I thought she was back in the StatesShe is.
>>33817546I want more Tempus x StarsJP collabs, that L4D2 match was so good. 1 on 1 don't work too well unless it's Axel though, because of the language barrier.
>>33817546>Luxiem>instant success
>>33817588She plays off stream
>>33817588I mean, what else would they play together to shill their new song? Mori refuses to touch Minecraft, maybe clubhouse?
>>33817441That's the case now with college starting back up, yeah. It's my biggest gripe with her. I love Mumei but it's hard being invested when I have to be up at 5 every morning and I have no idea if she's gonna stream until it's 9 or 10pm.
>>33817386retard
>>33817580>irys hate the block gameWhy
>>33815237>Homobeggars acting like nijifagshmm i wonder why
>>33816839I found this about council collabskroni..https://twitter.com/faumeii/status/1568038332353118208
Ame on the tally btw. Thanks Ina for the funnel.
>>33817588The timing is so awkward because if they're doing this collab to hype up a song release, an off collab karaoke would be the best.Mori even lives in Japan too, but she flew away again recently.
how tf is debuffson getting 5k playing this shitty game?
>>33817689All I gather from this is that Bae's a leech
Oh Ame managed to crawl her way on the cripple tally with Ina ending.
Is salome song cover fastest to 1M for niji song? Currently 733k @15hrs
>>33813973ES market isn't that big and latam people are broke as fuck because the lowest akasupa is like 1/6 or 1/8 of monthly avg income between 60% and 90% depending on the country which is a lot for life cost
>>33817710Why did you post this again?
>>33817721she is the only one streaming
>Why is Hololive EN reclining?>Is it the people returning to school/uni?>Is it because of Tempus?>Is it just a natural recline?Streams during the last full week in record, Sep 12th - Sep 18th:>Gura: 3 streams>Ina: 2 streams>Kronii: 0 streams>Mumei: 2 streams>Fauna: 4 streamsTOTAL: 11 streams>Pekora: 6 streams>Miko: 8 streams>Subaru: 6 streamsTOTAL 20 streamsHere's the reason why your branch is reclining, ENsharts.Including the stream's content for the two branches would make EN's recline evne more apparent.
>>33817721Holobox.
>>33817682The portal shit and the endragon shit made it unfun for her being forced to play.
This is unironically GRIM. It's pretty much NA prime time with just two people streaming and they can't even reach 8k.
>>33817689So it's just Bae trying to do the impossible.And being one down doesn't help either.
>>33817721Ina ended it
>>33817689Aren't like 4 of these sponsored?If so Kroni only got more than 1 1on1 collab with Mumei in council that she wasn't being paid for.
>>33817787Fauna is trying her best...
>>33817814Forgot my pic.
>>33817814I thought NA prime time was 6-9pm?
>>33817721no matter how shit the game is if your the only one streaming its basically a guaranteed comfy 5k
NA debuff, this shall be my new cope
last years september recline was masked by councils debut :)
>>33817814GRIM chads were right. Its pretty GRIM without Gura bailing these whores out
I don't understand HoloEN, almost all the members seem to lack the patient and enthusiasm to finish a project they started, may it be a game, a podcast, an innovative format or a mini serie.I just don't understand don't you want to complete what you have initialized? Doesn't it leave you a bit hollow to leave things unfinished at the same time knowing there would be a lot of audience request about it?Where does this lack of drive come from? Are they all depressed?
>>33817854Only one digimon stream was sponsored
>>33817750Doubt it's faster than Kuzuha's Vampire, the slip memes are legendary for a reason because he got so close.Salome's first cover was always going to do well because her VOD reach is massive, but I was surprised the premiere was only 12k.
>>33817854yeah, the only one that wasn't sponsored was Portal 2
>>33816775>we haven't had a IRyS/Gura 1 on 1 collab after allClosest we had was that gorilla Rust collab.
>>33817787It's technically 5 for Fauna if you count her member stream but I assume you only mean public.
>ame literally having primetime to herself>decides to play this gameshe is an enigma.....
>>33817926They’re western women. Plain and simple
>>33817926modern western women mentality
>>33817926The problem is that the girls don't see Hololive as a career, just a part time job. They're basically given success on a silver platter the moment they debut and fans will eat anything they shit out, so why try?This is probably why they updated the audition page to emphasize that they're looking for ambitious people.
>>33817926Because they don't have a professional mindset, big streamers dont care either
>>33817927
I don't even think EN3 could save this branch.Sure it will revive some hype but after a couple of months, it'll go back to the current same state.Most western women are just entitled and lazy.
>>33817689wanna try something fun, do 1 on 1s for holox, you're gonna get a surprise
I noticed the AC copyright in the art of her cover's artwork.Did AC themselves commission the art?Isn't that kinda unusual for a random cover?
>>33817926Western women don't take this streaming shit seriously. Improve yourselves
>>33818000She's playing along her lore, but in a debuff way. Next up is a couple of detective games.
>>33818109Come back to JP kino bro, the home of real vtubing
>>33818069Cover does not want to pull a Sana again lol
>>33818069Maybe I'm just too autistic, but I don't understand, leaving things unfinished disturbs me greatly even with a complete lack of ambition
>>33817926What are you even talking about? Like what projects and games? About half of them do try and finish games to completion and the others will usually say when they're dropping a game.This reads like the catalog shitposter I see all the time.
GRIM chads are getting powerful every single day
>>33818058>>33818067So what's the difference between them and NijiEN girls like Selen, Pomu, Elira, etc?Is it just the difference in success and revenue that makes the complacent?I can't imagine someone like Pomu or Selen (or most of the NijiEN girls) taking it easy even if they had HoloEN's success.I imagine they would be more like Kiara.
>>33818241I post only here so you are confusing me with someone else
>>33818196The whole Sana situation is an embarrassment to their scouts.Each Holo is their own brand (which Cover confirmed in that tweet supporting Kronii) and they're each worth millions of dollars.
all this talk about 1 on 1 colabs for council, you should check out holoxdid you know koyori only has a single 1 on 1 with chloe, lui and iroha
>>33818109Nah, there are hardworking western female chuubas. They're just in small corpos like Kawaii or Prism.
>>33818109Trust in the number 3, friendo.
>>33818277The hologirls have a lot more stuff to do behind the scenes.
>>33817926Effort doesn't equal results. Just look at the people who actually do an interesting serial format, play games to completion, crank out music, or take / seek out every collab. If effort doesn't produce results why bother?
>>33817689Really weird how Bae is the one with the most 1 on 1 collabs and also the one with the worst Council chemistry now that Sana is gonna. Any NOT collab with her she's always kinda ignored.
>>33817682She's not creative enough to come up with something to do in Minecraft.
>>33816116It depresses me because I'm actually [spoilers] a Tempusfag. I only wanted brotubers but the constant spamming of female collabs ruined it for me. They could at least keep it at 1 Collab per month, but it's so often that ignoring the Collab streams doesn't cut it because the girls are still being pushed on Twitter, so I'm burning out. I really wanna know what kind of 4D chess management is playing, and I'm curious about what the final result will be once the dust has settled.
>Grimposting about HoloEN leads to shilling the NijiEN girlsEvery time.You know you can do it without shitting on the Holo girls right?
>>33818397What's with this pathetic excuse that you, faggots, use all the time?Are you implying that Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Koyori, etc DON'T work on projects behind the scenes?How can ENfags be that retarded?
>>33818347What the fuck even happened. Such a broken gen. I don't know who i should blame for this, but i'll blame la+.
>>33818320Blame ina for the nepotism hire. Turns out niconico nepotism strategy didnt work out in EN because of the big gap in entertainment value between western whore friend groups and niconico friend groups
>>33818397I genuinely don't buy this as an excuse. There is not nearly enough content being pumped out to justify this.
>>33818501The JPs can just take a train ride and have the cover employees take care of everything else, the ENs do not have that luxury
bitch kill holoen fucked by nijisanji kek kek kekaroooooooooonie holodied keeeeeek
>>33818501He asked for a difference between NijiEN and HoloEN? Is that not a difference?
>>33818446I'm not talking about result, I 'm talking about the sentiment to leave things incomplete, doesn't it disturb you? Maybe it's just me
>>33816116>>33816116It depresses me because I'm actually a Tempusfag. I only wanted brotubers but the constant spamming of female collabs ruined it for me. They could at least keep it at 1 Collab per month, but it's so often that ignoring the Collab streams doesn't cut it because the girls are still being pushed on Twitter, so I'm burning out. I really wanna know what kind of 4D chess management is playing, and I'm legitimately curious about what the final result will be once the dust has settled.
>>33818309So what do you mean when you talk about unfinished projects or games? Do you have any examples in mind?
>>33818578You forgot about covers autism. Everything need to get approved
>>33818397>>33818578Yeah I mean Kiara is literally the EN who streams the most while also pumping a fuckton of songs and other projects. Plus she's literally alone in Europe so good luck with the support.
>>33818578The lesson is clear: stop hiring part-timers. Mori and Ina tricked people into thinking that they are the rule and not the exception.
>>33816116What numberrot does to a niggas brain
>>33818694She was stupid for leaving Japan I have no pity for her
>>33818629Which things were left incomplete?
>>33818629You asked why they seem unmotivated, that's an answer. It does disturb me a bit, but it's easy enough for most people to put things to the side when they might involve fruitless effort. Why don't viewers do more than cursory JP reps, for example?
>>33818636Is this the new copypasta now?
I've seen screenshots before of a spreadsheet showing monthly superchats for the NijiEN livers over time. Does anyone have an updated version?
>>33818730thank god she did that, mental health is way more important that +1k of averege CCV
>>33818730She had no choice, for once, she was on a special type of visa. And to be fair, her idea was that she would do regular trip back every 2 to 3 months or so. But that got fucked by COVID.
>>33818708Well when your breakout talent is the 2nd most popular vtuber in the world and she only streams maybe 5 times a month on a good year, that isn't setting a good example either. Myth in general are just bad role models, one half lazy and the other are full of drama and yabs.
holoen 3view Anya tier soon kek kek kekaroooooooonie keeeeeek kek kek greatest time of my life. Get fucked holoshitz ! I am drunk and happy keeeeek
>>33818730She's just afraid of japanese wrestlers ok?
>>33818730She literally had to leave. It wasn't a choice.
HoloEN and EN vtubing is doooooooooomedBut seriously, actually doompost when holoEN starts getting consistent 3 digit ccv or less than 10k vod views.
>>33818644The ame and gira podcast for a quick example, the fact that the holoEn Minecraft server is a barren land filled with project initiated but never finished.Those are 2 examples that quickly come to mind... It's not really a big deal, I'm just saddened that the interest seems to rot away easily
This still the latest one of these?
>>33818730Are you retarded? She's doing better than ever since she left and still is the hardest working Holo besides Mori. JP Kiara was a trainwreck.
>>33818578En girls don't have access or permission to use Cover's fax machines. Please anderstand.
>>33818870To be fair, now that she have her 3D, being in JP would benefit her the most. Her best skill is dancing and she can use it without being there.
>>33818347Graduate La+
>>33818840You wrote holoen 3view when you meant to write nijien 3views.
>>33818866Holy shit that Tempus recline
>>33818730If you look at a certain account, she posted a tweet about probably going back to JP as soon as it open.
>>33818109id say need to hire women who need the gig and worked dogshit jobs but amelia was literally homeless once and we got this
>>33818738I get what you are saying, that does make sense. Maybe if they had to "fight" for attention things would be different
>>33818988she said the exact same thing on stream, you don't need to be a doxnigger to know that
>>33818866>Tempus trajectory is almost the same as Iluna
>>33818964It's pretty cool how their average stays 2000 viewers above Illuna the whole time.
>>33818910they actually don't. For them to talk to jp management they have to go through an approved en/jp translator. They can only skip this step if they themselves speak Japanese. Why do you think they are making a jp study group right now.
>>33818925Borders open up in a month anyways so it's a gonna become a moot point.
>>33818840I don't think you're getting a gift card if you keep this level of quality, sis.
Keeeeeek janny is fucking maaaaad keeeeeeek holoen mods in fucking flames go fellate your unloyal magni keeekaroooooonie maybe hire more australiens so holoen dyes faster keeekkkk
Cover intern here EN3 trailer is coming next week
>>338190612 weeks
>>33818964Interesting that the Tempus and Iluna curves are almost perfectly parallel too.
>>33818866reminder their posts get double the amount of upvotes than the ones with the girls on reddit and always fill their subreddits frontpage
>>33819045Technically not all the time. Day one they were above tempus
>>33819087Thanks, T-chan.
>>33818865Oh yeah, Fish Tank. That was cancelled because of Ame's autism about being Gura's sidekick or something, right? Tbh I think there's a lot to the rrat about a lot of Myth not getting along that well behind the scenes, and that killed a lot of these projects that just died like the TTRPG.As for Minecraft, EN just gave up on it for some reason because everyone lost motivation. Not sure how to kick start it again but it's a Hololive staple and it's a shame it's been neglected. All the old Myth projects are probably doomed forever (rip Atlantis), the best hope is that Fauna or Bae drag someone into a group project.
>>33816947>I can't find a single logical reason for it other than criplling autism.I mean, yes?
Does NijiEN have anything in store today? Otherwise cripple gold for Bae with Minecraft on empty slot
Rye will be in EN3
>>33819087Thanks for the heads up, 4-chan
>>33819112As the frankenstein from BOOGEY VOX said, social media likes/retweets/updoots doesn't translate into views/interaction of the YT algo.
KÈÈÉK MAD JANNY WANTS BANNY KEEEEKAROOOOONIE ARE YOU UPSET THE TRUTHS IS OUT AND ABOUT HOLOEN DYING FLOPPING LIKE FISH IN STINKY THAMES KEEEEEK
>>33819174yeah, with me
>>33818996Ame is one of the few hard working ENs. Her biggest weakness is her unironic autismo and contrarian nature but she pulls her weight.Kronii in theory was working a dogshit job and she's one of the worst Holos when it comes to work ethic. She doesn't even have the college excuse like Mumei.
>>33819142Ame pretty much always cancels any kind of long term project. Like Ame in the AM? That was a whole lot of setup for one whole episode.
>>33819150NijiEN never has anything in store. They are losing the month 20-2. That is really fucking sad.
>>33819142>Oh yeah, Fish Tank. That was cancelled because of Ame's autism about being Gura's sidekick or something, right?I still find it hilarious that this idea is parroted about Fish Tank, from people who clearly weren't there. Fish Tank wasn't meant to be an Amesame podcast, Ina was supposed to be the next guest, it's just the standard Ame lazyness
>>33818866>myth below their CCVID lowholy
>>33819193what am i looking at?
>>33819142>it's a Hololive stapleMainly because even the most normalfag of nips is slightly autistic, and the block game has a minimum autism threshold for it to be engaging.
>>33819058I know, it was a joke. But the bureaucracy of the constant back and forth is obviously going to chip away at the girl's motivation.
Is there an easy way to look at NijiEN superchat numbers over time?
>>33819174After womb tattoo? Yeah, no way dude.
SEETHING N COPING THAT IS THE AMERICAN WAY SMOKE SO MUCH HOLOEN SHIT YOU ARE FLIPPING YOUR FEED KEEEEKAROOOOO GET THOSE AUSTRLAIENS IN THAT SHIT KEK KEKKITY KEK KEK
>blue homo playing ultrabuff MW2 beta>has half the CCV of fucking Ame playing I SpyWhy do homobeggars actually think people want to watch these niggers?
>>33819142Fish tank was meant to be like Holotalk.Ame just gave up on it after she lost interest.
>>33819257Gura should stream more to counteract Mori and Kiara then.
>>33819187I bet omegay exclusively looks/looked at those metrics and thinks/thought they will be a huge success
>>33819142I forgot about TTRPG...even that why? Just lack of motivation? It seems to be the common answer, but I don't know the bts
>>33819257Kiara and Mori dragging their CCV way down.
9/1 - 9/20 SEPTEMBER MONTHLY VIEWS>Myth 22,315,260>Luxiem 12,356,200
Ame's 5k floor never cease to amaze me. They just watch her plays any game regardless of the situation or the rrats here.
>>33818866How the fuck did Council actually improve? Was it Sana pulling them down? I swear looking at stream numbers they seem to be declining hard too.
>>33819331Yeah, the last part wasn't as well received as well.
>>33819312>COD>BuffHow do you know this? That’s right you don’t.
I'm just happy that the orcat qualified into the tally, even if she probably won't be on it because none of the usual sites recorded her.
>>33819142she wanted fish tank to be rotating 1-on-1. the 2nd episode was supposed to be with ina but could never get their schedule to match. you can count the number of ame-ina 1-on-1 on one hand after 2 years. plus the coco graduation saga started right after.
>>33818866HOLOEN DIE DIE DIE HAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA KEKKITY KEK KEK MORE AUSTRALIENS TO KILL THE HOLOEN FASYER IN EN3 O WAIT IT DOESNT EXIST HAAHHAHAHAH KEEEEK
>>33819142Ame's problem is that she finds the challenge of figuring out projects fun. After she figures out how to do it and does a stream, she gets bored and throws the idea away.
>>33819112One joke/meme isn't a full stream. You can like a joke and still be uninterested in sitting through ep 6 of Zelda or ep 8 of Raft.
>>33819312You're saying that Altare has half the viewership of someone with 10 times more subscribers than he does? Thanks for pointing that out as I agree that's quite impressive.
>>33819365Sana barely streamed, she didn't hurt them that much. They just stream more interesting shit and haven't fully debuffed their channels to hell like 3/5 of Myth
>>33819379Dude, its one of the most anticipated CoD games in recent history.Plus the added buff of it being a beta
>>33819331No, it's a scheduling nightmare to get all the myth girls together and Mori overbooked herself to hell for a few months in 2022.By now, it's way too late and the interest is gone.
>>33819331TTRPG and CHADcast have a hell of a lot of episodes though, relative to Myth's other stuff. I think the only production with more episodes is Holotalk and that's not even a HoloEN collab thing.
>>33819365the one who streams most is fauna, and she's also has the second highest average numbersthe myths who are streaming most are kiara and mori, and uh... y'know.it's like luxiem's "recline" which is probably just the result of vox being on break
>>33819371What a shit fest honestly... So much build up for what? Not even a conclusion... Even a bad one would have been better
>>33819470>its one of the most anticipated CoD games in recent historyPeople say this literally every year and yet act so surprised that it’s the same shit
>>33813973>KR marketsomeone post that luxiem merch drama
>>33819342Once milord cums back from his glorious rest, he will erect Luxiem's line graph straight up and pierce myth's line.
KEKKEKKEKHELLO YOU HOLOLIVE FEASTERS. ENJOYING THE RECLINE LIKE I AM ? FASCINATING STUFF I LOVE IT SO UCH I KANT STOP KEEEEKIIIIIING IM KEEEEEEEKKKKKKIIIIIING IT MUST SUCK NOT BEING BAZED KEK
>>33819342last month8/1 - 8/20 AUGUST MONTHLY VIEWS>Luxiem 20,565,704>Myth 19,633,044AUGUST -> SEPTEMBER (gain)>Myth +2,682,216>Luxiem -8,209,504
>>33817386Fungus Covid...
>>33819480Even with that explanation (which is sounder) it's sad
>>33819331Mori has pretty much implied that one of the girls is dragging their feet and doesn't want to participate anymore.
>>33819406Thats a horrible metric to go by anon, sub count doesnt correlate to CCV.Tempus is only just over a month old, they shouldnt be reclining this much in viewership already.
>>33819150It's not August anymore, so enjoy the drought until the next wave of accelerants.
>>33819342This is retarded to put a third of month on a graph with full month. Why don't you just do 30 days sliding ?
>>33819488>it's like luxiem's "recline" which is probably just the result of vox being on breakIt's part of it. Shu started playing Hades, which is killing him. Luca can't get to 10k easily anymore like a few months ago. Mysta has just been kinda all over the place too in terms of content. Ike is a VOD and CCV shitter as always.
>>33819486TTRPG never got a conclusion, it's not a big deal just saddening
>>33819360Outside of some very specific /lig/ and /wvt/ girls, this whole board is completely inconsequential to a holo's numbers and shit posted here tends to be complete opposite of whatever their viewers/twitter/reddit/whatever other place normies are in.>inb4 anons here legit think /vt/'s opinion on something is representative of fanbases at large.
Nice obvious reverse falseflagging shitposting so people can stop talking about the decline of HoloEN. Carry on defend EN's integrity
>>33819234>>33819314>>33819394So basically we need a tard wrangler for the creatividad. I guess there's no real profile for that in EN right now so better hope EN3 has someone like that. The board will probably fucking hate them but it's a necessary sacrifice.
End of hours numbers
>>33819488>the myths who are streaming most are kiara and mori, and uh... y'knowMori being the runt of Myth and Kiara tier is absolutely crazy and would've looked like a joke in 2020. What the fuck happened?
>>33819603Holy KEEEEEEEEEKKKKK WHAT A HALLUVINATION I AM SEEING ? HOLY KEKAROOOOONIE GO LUXIEM GO LUXIEM IT IS YOUR BIRTHDAY KEEEEEK GET FUUUU KED HOLOSHITZ
>>33819470How come theres literally zero streams with more than 10K streaming on twitch or youtube then?
>>33819632WOW, almost like HOLOLIVE fans don't want to watch males or something. Literally no-one should be surprised tempus reclined or have shit numbers.
>>33819632>Tempus is only just over a month old, they shouldnt be reclining this much in viewership already.If you look at Regis's numbers, he didn't recline much at all. Dude was getting 2-3k in this time slot since his 2nd week.
>>33819717What a joke
>>33819692>reverse falseflagging shitposting
>>33819628Any idea why? Do they find it a waste of their time?
>>33819718>What the fuck happened?She started playing garbage no one waants to watch. Not that the games themselves are garbage (I legitimately think Valhalla is fucking trash but that's an argument for another thread in another board) but it's garbage that doesn't work well for streaming.
>>33819692everything outside japan is on decline right now
HOLY SHIIIIITT EN IS RECLINING JUST GRADUATE EVRTBODY KEKW LOOK AT ALL THOSE AHITTERS LMAOOOOO
>>33819692KEK I AM JUST HERE TO WATCH HOLOEN WRITHE LIKE THE PITIFUL WORM IT IS ! I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL ALL COVER PERISH MY INTHUSIASM IS AN ORGASM
>>33819632Altare has been stable pretty much since the week after debut anon.
>>33819791TTRPG is not for everyone. They probably didn't like them
>>33819717And here comes Nenechi of all people to mog the fuck out of everyone
>>33819718Mori always got shit numbers for shit games. Did people forget Mother 2 and that castlevania game?
>>33819836KEEEEK MY BROTHERRRRRR LET US SHOW THEM HOW IT IS DONE KEEEKAROOOOOOOONIE KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT !!
>>33819150Mentioned earlier but they have Mysta/Luca/Sonny/Alban in GTA Online, dunno how many POVs, Shu Valorant with Shoto, and Yugo unarchived karaoke.
Yes yes. Well done. Here.
>>33819791I mean, it is a waste of time after the last episode. They saw how badly went after not preparing themself and now is too late for it. And I bet is Gura the one not wanting to do it.
>>33818320sana wasn't worth shit though
>>33819718Homo collabs
The homos game choices are so fucking weird it almost feels on purpose. They either play debuff shit or games that EN never touched so we have no real metric about them.
>>33819717Western vtubers were a mistake
>>33819861So is that post like a $5 gift card value ya'think?
Are these discord raiders getting paid? Holy shit this thread. Letting Nijifags here at all was a fucking mistake.
>>33819970>Yugo unarchived karaoke.Probably 10k+ then like her previous karaokes
>>33819632Their recline has slowed down recently as they replace their losing viewers with new viewers from HoloEN
>>33819902But why go so deep to then just leave it? I admit it was becoming boring and a bit repetitive, but that never stopped them before
>>33819335Kiara is at least reversing her trend with GTA after that horrific Tunic/Cult of the Lamb arc. Mori finished Live A Live, so there's a chance she won't pick some quirky RPG shit.
AUSTRALIENS ARE GARBSGE YOU KNOW THISBAE IS TERIBLESANA IS GARBAGE AND GONEAXEL IS BOTTOM TIER KEEEEKAROOOOO BORING TRASH. HIRE MORE AUSTRALIEN IN EN3 TO KILL IT FASTER BICHES HA !!
nene's doing this stream half asleep
>>33819904She's fucking mogging everybody with a 7 mins old stream, playing... I don't even know what the fuck is that. Just graduate all NijiEN and HoloEN
>>33820056It was on stream and the only myth Collab they where doing. It's hard to leave in that situation
>>33819974Yeah i get what you are saying, the not preparing thing is a bit of a trend and that would lead to abysmal result
KEK KEEP SEETHING HOLOSHARTZ YOU BEG WEEP AND KOPE BUT THE DAY OF THE DOPE (YOU) IS GOING TO KEK DOWN AND KEK KEK KEKAROO YOU BLUE KEEEEEK
>>33820007They play their share of minecraft and buff games too. It's just that their ceilings are low so they don't feel that buff.Tempus being out for a while made people forget the initial expectations for them.The Tempus runts getting Lazulight numbers is a huge success already.
>>33819683I mean, people still bought into the MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD meme because it gives them a modicum of power ...
>>33820187I get that, but they just abandoned it saying nothing
>>33817452Imagine saying this when the biggest power couple in 2022 is Gura-Kaela. Remember when Gura buff whoever check ID server?
>>33820219They have said multiple types they where surprised at how much support they got.
>>33820219HOLY KOOOOOPE KEEEEEEK 3K SKRAPS KEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK IS THIS THE BEST HOLOENSHARTZ HAVE TO OFFER ? THEN PERISH KEK your PRECIOUS SHARK LOST TO GACHA GAMBA KEKKKK
>>33820032Look at the state of EN streams right now. Half asleep Nenechi playing some absolute trash at 11am on a friday already passed everyone. Nijiniggers are fucked as well.
>>33820178apparently an arcade game where you die if you don't eat sushi fast enoughit looks like garbage
>>33820225Well, 90% of bait threads in catalog use material people get from this place
>>33820322kusoge buff and sleepy girl buff ඞ
>>33820282Technically it's not cancelled, but yeah.
KEEEEEEEK SEETHERS KEEP SEETHING LET NIJISANJI DOMINANTE WITH MORE STREAMERS TO PECK AND KILL HOLOEN TO DEATH KEEEEEKKKKKK LOVE TO SEE IT !
>>33820311I mean Regis and Axel still got like 1000+ members in their member opening streams, which is half of their usual viewerbase. Vesper is in his own tier, but even the runts are doing more than fine.The 4view dream is still alive despite Axel's best efforts.
>>33820383Sad ain't it?
>>33820349That just mean this thread is bait farm for this board anon, and this board opinion don't mean shit (Well, except for Niji Discord server, like why ... )Also, pic rel ... Who should I blame for the state of this thread today?
honestly, disgustingen market was a mistake
>>33820032This isn't just some tribalistic war nigger we are actually talking baout the shit NUMBERS in EN
>>33820425Kinda, but I stopped watching pretty early on. It was mid
>>33820178Shes competing with a blonde whore and a blue whore on the EN side, no surprise.Ame's CCV is always fairly regardless of what she does
>>33820473Can't disagree with you on that, not the right kind of autism in the group i guess
>>33820442Don't worry, due to the homo buff Bae should be able to beat Kiara at least.
>>33820442Kiara of all people bitch slapping everyone. Bae better get over 10k.
>>33820439Well we already knew the kekaroo poster was French. Idk why they're up though
I didn't really think about it before, but VERSEn is even more confusing: their main twitter account is in japanese, but the main youtube channel's about page is in english. The website is available in both languages. There's just no consistency or logic to anything.
JP chads fucking won and are striking back at EN niggers with FACTS AND LOGIC after having to deal with these obnoxious niggers parading their inflated numbers they never really deserved
>>33820442it's worse, shylily is on top of all of them
>>33820442Kiara winning
>>33820219>>33820311>>33820413The nonstop shilling, female collabs and homobeggars in every corner of the internet make it hard to put them in the same category as the JP Stars. If you go to any social media outside of here you would think they are at least EN tier or even higher considering they are the main talk.
>>33820542It Karaoke + holocure right? No way it doesn't get over 10k.
>>33820473I hope Tempus do a better job on their TTRPG and Mori can fuck off. Ame joining for a guest episode is alright by my part.
>>33820565Eh, Paris is only 1 hours after London, so I don't think the guy is FrenchUnless he's larping, in that case, he is doing a terrible job
>>33820439NA primetime used to be positive of EN, these are just GRIM times for the EN side with GRIM numbers
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1573115022091264000>Due to the recent situation, there is a possibility that the open stage appearance of Indonesian / Korean rivers, VirtuaReal, NIJISANJI EN members will be canceled just before.We apologize for the inconvenience and concern, but we appreciate your understanding.so no 3d for nijien? what does this mean lol
>>33820542If Bae does Open VC and someone actually joins (I honestly don't know how it's possible for no one to be free sometimes), she'll get 10k.Alone? Doubtful unless there's no overlap and she's doing something interesting.She's gonna lose cripple gold to fucking Yugo anyways.
>>33820648Don't know if this is a hot take but Mori i kinda of a shit gm
>>33820668>PARISOH NO NO NO NOQUICK, SEND OUT THE EXTR STEAM GIFT CARDS
>>33820642They were a success before any of that. Them getting 1Ks was probably dream tier
>>33820668Holu fuck, I thought it was another Vox's tweet
>>33820732It's not kek
>>33820668>recent situationWhat happened?
>>33820668>announce 3D>don't even have your chuubas in the country>the country gets closed>"oh shit what do we do now"lel
ishowspeed numbers? I hear he's moving to twitch
>>33820668LMAOOOO GET FUCKEDDD
>>33820668Giftcardsanji spent all month shitting on fauna only for watamage to take them all out.
>>33820642You're delusional. This is legit "wow look at NijiEN's Twitter numbers! They're bigger than Hololive now!" level of delusion.StarsEN are more popular than StarsJP, but everyone knows they're clearly not on the same level as HoloEN.
>>33819342I never realized how hard Vox carried LuxiemSo I guess it's similar to Myth cratering as Gura streams less and less every month.
>>33820668It’s fucking over God damnit we’re going to get spammed in overdrive to try to cover up for this
>>33816779Get a thicker skin.
>>33820774Seems like a trend...
>>33820668What the fuck?
>>33820668The ABSOLUTE fucking state of EN vtubing.
>>33820648DnD is more know and 3/4 of tempus have experience with TTRPG. Mori is behaves fine with the boys, so she would be the better choice.>>33820732She was not shit, but she was definitely not a good one
Teakeks it'z ober
/hlg/ is melting down
>>33820668Wait, the fuck?I thought Japan was opening up again, what the fuck is happening?
>>33820668>NijiEN 3D on stage canceledTHANK GOD, Their stage can't possibly handle Selen's weight
first time watching aia, I started at min 15it's been disastrous, she took until min 22 or 25 (maybe more, I lost the track) to start the game and doesn't know how to manage anything at all, she insist on reading every supachat without any fail instead of reading them at the end and sometimes she starts to talk too much, too fast, leaving no silence in betweenno wonder she's already bleeding after rosemi funnel/raid and reclining overallwhat the fuck is management (not) doing?
>>33820668meanwhile ID1 already went to japan and made their 3D showcaseso what's their excuse?
>>33820668>Niji Discord exposed>This happenedWell, did you doubted HER power?
>>33820823StarsEN are also not treated the same as StarsJP. If they want to do nonstop collabs with the girls then they can't play the Stars JP card.
>>33820668Watamage I kneel
>>33820622What did Shylily get? I was asleep.
Alright, HoloStats has to fucking up right? Is Suisei really getting 700k views a day from her music?
>>33820914So mid? Like anything else she does
>>33820668Wait what do thye mean by recent situation?
>>33820668Wait so 3D stage for Hana and Lazulight has possibility to get cancelled? Watamage???
>>33820668https://youtu.be/E-cCQY2_QTo?t=13261It's over
>>33820668This can't be fucking real. Watamage strikes again.
>>338210287k-ishnotrecorded on any tracking sites unfortunately
OH NO NO NO NOhttps://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1573121408007557120
>>33820668> recent situationI didn't think that korean kerfuffle would be so big
>>33820836The thing is, Luca, Vox and Mysta used to have very healthy VODs regardless of CCV. Like for months, they would get 150-200k views on most of their VODs even if they didn't get 10k.Now, Vox is gone and Mysta and Luca sometimes don't even get 100k, which is a bit alarming. Mysta still gets by by making a lot of highlight clips with clickbait titles, but the glory days are in the past.
>>33820668>koreans throwing a shitfit at luxiem's new merch>now thisroru
>>33820668Ame is worth so much to Cover. Holy shit