/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33774375
>but it's pretty clear she picked her "camp"
I hope he goes slowly.

>>33774375
>Starts drama
>"I don't want drama for IRyS"
kek

>>33774375
>fagarmor
How deeply engrained is /vt/ in this faggot’s head?
>picked her camp
He’s huffing shitpost fumes like it’s oxygen.

>>33774375
IRyS doesn't deserve this shit

>>33774375
kek

>>33774375
OHNONONO HOMOBEGGARS?????

>>33774375
Are these by the same person?

>>33774375
>they were always saying the vtuber's happiness comes first and that everyone should shut up and accept their decisions.
They only say this because they think the only decision one would make is to collab with the Homos. Wokies and Twittertrannies do not have the neural capacity to understand that just because they like someone, doesn't mean they think alike. They think anyone that doesn't think like them acts like an cartoon villain or is a old white male.

>>33774375
>homobeggars are as bad as unicucks
Holy shit no way?

>>33774375

>>33774375
Christ...

>>33774375
How bad do you think Kronii is going to feel when she realizes she threw away a perfectly good career for faggots who have no intention of supporting her in the long run and just want to own the incels?

>>33774375
We've always known that. Talking about collabs like that in /stars/ would get you yelled down for a reason.

>>33774662
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if tanking her numbers by collabing with males was one of the reason she reversed herself, she never liked being the leader of her gen and would have no problem with another member of council overtaking her.

>>33774739
>she never liked being the leader of her gen
Kronii is supposed to be HoloEN leader? I thought it was Sana.

>>33774794
Bae is their leader, lore-wise

>>33774599
>They think anyone that doesn't think like them acts like an cartoon villain
it's become disturbingly common to see this kind of person compare real life events to capeshit or harry potter, they unironically don't have a grasp on the real world and have no appreciation of history or culture.

>>33774594
Good point, certainly that same person will call out the parasocials on their side. Any day now!

>>33774662
Kronii: "What could possibly go wrong?"
>sitcom music starts playing

>>33774467
HoloEN civil war soon, trust me.
Oh wait, Gura was just gushing about Kronii yesterday? Uh... it'll happen soon!

>>33774942
He's never going to see the cringe free chat comments

>>33775011
https://youtu.be/_V2sBURgUBI

>>33774375
BasedRyS

>>33774375
Only gura can save holoen form the homos
Yagoo has to choose, Gura or the homos

>>33774375
>y-yeah own the parasocials!
Jesus fucking Christ. What the fuck did the retarded fish start on the internet a few months ago?

I fucking hate homobeggars. They don't care about the talents and they are fucking fake Tempus fans. At this rate, their crusade against unicorns are going to make the boys collateral damage.

>>33774594
npcs are all the same person

Something stinks about this whole thing, what are you trying to pull OP

>>33775074
>>33775011
Alternatively:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idoYCVLh2qI
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

>>33774375
They never care for vtuber. What a surprise eh? But that's the same in any of their crusade. At least unicorn stay with the girls, virtual signaler don't

>>33774794
Normally the one with the highest subs in a gen is the defacto leader since their job is to help bring up the numbers of everyone else.

If you want to see someone shitting the bed on that duty in a nearly biblical sense, look up Hana Macchia of the now defunct Nijisanji ID.

>>33774375
this is what that bitch kronigger stands for btw

>>33774375
Wait, why are they allowed to argue like this in chat? In a small corpo/indie chat they'd all get timed out very quickly.

>>33775228
You know the faggot CEO will choose the homos.

>>33775776
It's her 24/7 freechat.

>>33775776
It's IRyS' freechat room

>>33775781
I'm starting to begin to think he thinks it's what western fans want because of retarded twitter interactions. You never see him pushing the fags on the JP girls, and only a small number of them collab that are comfortable with it, but it seems like a greater percentage of ENs need to be corrupted and have their careers ruined. Someone get on twitter and tell this braindead nip he needs to get his head out of his ass if he wants his "AKB48" idol group.

>>33774375
I don't get it. That's not the same person.

>>33774619
He lied as naturally as he breathed

>>33774662
You clearly dont understand kroni.
She does not want more. You already gave her a shit ton of money for no reason.
It is your fault. She no longer have to work for it.

>>33774662
Kronii is a mentally retarded pronouns idiot. Whatever it wants was irrelevant. Shouldn't have hired someone disgusting like that in the first place.

>>33775388
There is no such thing as bad marketing anon.
They would be dead already without the drama.
I actually feel bad for them, because they are there just to serve as bait

>>33775885
>You never see him pushing the fags on the JP girls
Not directly to the girls but he's been pushing the fags to holo viewers since he retracted the collab ban two years ago.

>>33774619
every time I see this forced positivity shit a part of my soul dies from the cringe. I bet even the girls themselves hate these sorts of 'fans'

>>33775987
jeez, the HoloEN civil war must turn out to be really boring because one side is consisted of only dregs and sludge

Maybe IRyS can talk some sense into her. I am out of copium

>>33776119
I beg to differ. I think these collabs are doing bad for their numbers, except for that Kobo one with Altare.

>>33776370
Proving that all SEAmonkeys are cucks.

>>33775884
No shit. Right is defending Kronii for the tweet that ended her career, left is attacking IRyS for not wanting to collab with homostars
Both are done by the same people

>>33776370
Kobo got less and less viewers during any collab with the faggot.

>>33775703
Hana didn't fuck up her job. She took it further and went traitor, actively sabotaging the branch until she killed it.

>>33776431
Your reply makes no logical sense.

>>33776119
If you want back and replaced every girl collab with a male collab (other Tempus members, starsJp or even an indie or niji if management allowed it) they would be bigger now. Neither fujos nor men like the holo collabs.

>>33774619
>Ame-Mumei collab: *crickets*
>Gura-Reine collab: *crickets*
>Vesper-Kronii collab: HEHE HEY IRYS SPEAKING OF COLLABS

>>33774662
>kronii
>have guilt
She's have no empathy if you didn't see it yet

>>33775885
One theory is EN management is doing it based off some retarded KPI that rewards them for new viewers that they can bring in regardless of whether they hemorrhage old viewers. It would explain all the con appearances to people who've barely watched a few streams if at all, con-exclusive shorts and skits, Tiktok, holostar collabs, etc.

>>33774662
She'll be fine, she made enough money for the little time she's left in this world. She's not gonna live that long since she's unable to be happy. Hopefully she does a flip while fortnite dancing once she decides to end it all.

>>33776525
I'm not talking about numbers Kobo wise. Altare used to be the second least subbed member. After Kobo, he's now at the top. Other collabs don't do no shit to the boys numbers. That's what's infuriating. If you guys want cute girls doing cute things, we just want our bros sans the sluts. Fuck cover for trying to mess with that. Fuck homobeggars for stirring up drama and making the boys look bad.

>>33776939
Honestly sounds likely. Also, they're under the same management, right? I feel like that was a big mistake too.

>>33776807
oh of course I know, she wont care about us, she'll feel sad for herself though

>>33776939
Omega probably wants to debut as a nonbinary EN chuuba or is at least trans-leaning. Currently, Holo EN doesn't touch trans shit. He needs someone to break down the old foundations so he can build his own kingdom.

Mori's dream is to be a talent producer.
https://files.catbox.moe/vq61pa.mp4

>>33776550
Because she didn't want to shoulder the responsibility of leading the branch.
It was sad. Imagine if you had someone like Mika in Hana's place, how different things would be.

>>33774611
I know it's crazy. It's why we have a sudden influx of Kiaraposting and Tempus shill threads.

>>33774375
>She's an entertainer not your girlfriend!
>that means she shouldn't think about how her decisions reflect on her content or if it's what her audience enjoys!
Are these people intentionally retarded?

>>33778144
It's weird how they imply that vtubers are solely for the entertainment of homobeggars.

>>33774611
Two sides of the same worthless chuck e cheese token

>>33777507
Omegafagot has another thing coming and no amount of "muh dream" will help him

>>33778144
That's the thing, she's considered it and has decided that she'll do what she wants and the audience that doesn't like that is free to leave. You fuckers are so entitled, just fucking leave if you don't like it, stay if you do. It's simple. The old tried and true vote with your wallet. Sperging out like a bunch of retards isn't helping. Screaming about the homobeggar boogieman is just cope. Drama baiting homobeggars exist, but they aren't shitting things up to the level you fags have been. Kiara got like two retards while kronii has an entire board shitting on her.

>>33778637
We're currently at the end of Golden Age arc.
Omega is sacrificing the unicorns and CGDCT.
He wants his nonbinary LGBT kingdom but Holo EN just isn't ready yet.
God Hand: Mori, Kronii, Ame, Baelz, Ina
Skull Knight: Unknown
Strugglers of the next arc: Gura, Mumei, Fauna, Kiara (and hopefully more from EN3)

>>33779345
IRyS is skull knight

>>33774375
Twittards and wokesters being hypocrites, who never walk the walk? What news. Details at 11.

Seriously, this shit is as old as time itself and not limited to chuubas.

>>33779345
I like how people memoryholed Mumei's involvement as well as debut baggage for both Fauna and Mumei.

>>33779522
Contrary to how you lying fuckers like to paint us, we don't care that a chuuba may have a bf irl. It's when that shit or male collabs are brought to the streams third wheeling the viewer that it becomes an issue. Mumei handled her one male collab just fine. Fauna is a great streamer who found her identity as one.

>>33775027
Gura just wants to bring Kronii back from the darkside, she hasn't given-up on her, yet.

>>33774375
the collabeggars will become more hated then the unicorns in time. they dont realize yet they sound even worse then incels when they are fucking up the chat and superchats begging to OWN THE INCELS LOL YAS QUEEN

>>33779647
i wouldn't say she handled it 'just fine', it seemed like she fucking hated being there

>>33775885
EN is the sacrifice. He wants nothing more than for his JP boys to be as successful as the JP girls. If a mixed EN branch can work then they'll try it in JP.

>>33775885
ohh... suddenly makes sense. There's AKB48 and JKT48
is there any EOP48?

>>33779798
imo mumei has a boyfriend still so its understandable she hated being there. like you arent dating someone and then streaming with dudes its just fucking weird i dont blame them.

>I'm sad that IRyS is too afraid of her own audience to make friends even though she has said that she's lonely and I wish it didn't have to be like this
>A-HA HYPOCRITE BITCH?? I THOUGHT EVERYONE COULD COLLAB WITH WHOEVER THEY WANTED HUH?? WHO'S PRESSURING WHO NOW HUH
Unicorns have the mental capabilities of a 3-year-old child

>>33779889
You're not fooling anyone here homonigger. Everyone already knows unicorns are cancer, and it's about time filthy homobeggars like you are counted as one too.

>>33775987
Kronii isn't rich anon. She'll go back to flipping burgers in less than a year after she graduates.

>>33779407
Makes sense. I wasn't sure where to put IRyS. Her being in her own gen is quite fitting as the Skull Knight.

>>33779859
They broke-up a long time ago, anon.

>>33779407
skull knight would have to be someone whos already gone through all this before and came out on the other side. so more likely a jp member

>>33780335
towa, perhaps? idk

>>33780335 (me)
also if we assume guts is gura who is donny?
or are we just gonna go with the 1997 anime and cut that lore out?

>>33780335
I can't think of a JP member who would time to time save them. Maybe a hag from EN3 who has extensive previous vtubing experience? Or ID?

>>33780421
Homobeggars kek

>>33779859
It’s because Ollie made it weird as fuck. She kept trying to ship the JP stars with her for some fucking reason.

>>33774662
I don't care about that. I hope she feels worse for making it harder for the other girls, the JP girls especially are getting crucified by EN trannies and they don't even know about it

>>33774662
Pretty fine because she's one of them.

For how much twitter trannies are trying to paint the "unicorns" as a bunch of psycho school shooters keeping every girl at gun point IRyS and Kiara seemed to have a way harder time just saying that they won't collab with Tempus compared to Ame and Kronii who told the unicorns to just suck it. Weird.

>>33778637
She knew...

>>33775987
The problem is that she bought a new place and other goodies with her new fortune, so she is now accustomed to a certain lifestyle and needs the matching income to accommodate it.

>>33780618
ISRAEL
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1538710994847137792

>>33780499
She was just unlikable. Even the indogs who liked ID1 and starsJP collabs fucking hated her obsession with holostars and male fleshstreamers, in addition to her westaboo autism.

Nowadays she's quite tame though.

>>33776939
sounds like something Paul Li would do

>>33780668
Too late. She's a 3 view sometimes alongside Iofi

>>33780737
I remember being really into Ollie her debut week because of the Hololive challenge vid. It was really cute. But yeah she ended up being kinda weird after that

>>33774619
Wow the amount of bullshit this cunt is full of can fertilize the entire US farmland. That superchat was clearly homobegging.

>>33779334

>>33779889
>Unicorns

>>33776119
I beg to differ this makes me hate EN as a whole it turns out the best defense against mass leftoid tranny behavior is to just speak a different language it really stops their spread out side of their containment sites.

>>33779334
kronii wouldnt stop putting her foot in her mouth over it, trying to argue with the people who disagreed with her. kiara just straight up said good luck but im doing my own thing and memed her yagoo collab

Do the JPbros know about Omega? They're hearing more about the EN war but I'm curious if they know who's really shitting things up

>>33774375
>They
You mean the other parts of /vt/ that aren't obsessive over their 2d anime waifus? You got a screenshot of two people, there are dozens of threads on /vt/. You need to calm down.

>>33779334
I mean I don't see what's so bad about people sperging in a containment board. Almost everyone here has the courtesy not to actually attack her in any forum she'd see it. There's a reason people get so mad about containment breaking. What's so entitled about it?

>>33780524
Who is getting crucified?

>>33780941
i wonder how aware modern jp is of troons and jews in general.

>>33781016
You're comparing people in her chat vs people on /vt/. I hate you deceitful little fucks.

>>33781072
Not one girl in particular. Just all of JP girls which they call the reason why "idol culture" exists

>>33778144
I mean, they're right? Entertainers who only play to their core audience never really grow or expand. Think about people who only ever wanted to see actors perform comedy and never move onto drama. Jim Carey is great in The Mask, but The Truman Show is a great movie as well.

>>33781152
Despite whatever retardation Kronii brought, nips fon't care about twittoids opinions.

>>33781095
No I'm comparing the people on /vt/ to the people on /vt/. You can call them tourist as much as you want but /MANS/ has plenty of posters who enjoy the guys, and the collabs between them and the HoloEN girls. 4chan is not a hivemind, and neither is /vt/, one day you'll have to deal with that.

>>33774375
I can't believe anakin is a homobeggar.

>>33781253
The screenshot is of a chat and the post is talking about /vt/ in response. Holy shit. You might actually be a shill with how willfully you're misunderstanding me. Enjoy your gift card

>>33781152
Where? I've seen people complaining about "idol culture" but never the JP girls.

>>33781023
Tourists are always incapable of understanding that people are capable of holding an opinion without being a warrior about it. That's why they accuse every anon they disagree with of being responsible for harassment.
They can't understand that most people who post /here/ are doing it so they can have a place to be weird about vtubers without bothering the talents, probably because the idea of not bothering somebody you disagree with is an alien concept to them. Otherwise they'd just close the tab instead of chimping out at every thread they don't like.

>>33781293
And you're misunderstanding me. Plenty of people on /vt/ old the same opinion. I'm saying not all of /vt/ reacted negatively to male collabs. I'm trying to tell you to stop attempting to make this a /vt/ vs everyone else issue where there are multiple camps within /vt/.

>>33781371
>They can't understand that most people who post /here/ are doing it so they can have a place to be weird about vtubers without bothering the talents
You do understand that it doesn't actually get contained here right? That it leaks out? That's why people on this board boast about sending SC's about money for condoms.

>>33779334
Voting with your wallet only works if you are in the huge majority. Better hope you are.

>>33775577
>At least unicorn stay with the girls
Self-proclaimed unicorns have been saying that long time supporters(members) don't count though if they say they don't care about collab drama.

>>33779889
Why do people, when greentexting, are so hyperbolic? They would quite people from their "camp" and portray them as civilised intellectuals while demonizing the opposing viewpoint in the worst way possible, when the reverse is actually true.

It's like I'm on twitter.

>>33781253
>/MANS/ has plenty of posters who enjoy the guys, and the collabs between them and the HoloEN girls
The consensus there seemed to be the collabs tend to be awkward and not as fun as the male only stuff.

>>33775703
I usually consider the highest subbed member the face of the group, rather than the leader. A leader needs good tardwrangling skills, something neither Gura not Kobo have.

>>33781595
>most people who post /here/ are doing it so they can have a place to be weird about vtubers without bothering the talents
Emphasis on most. Constantly attempting to shout down everybody who expresses opinions here by accusing them of harassing the talent can only be either disingenuous or a reflection of how they themselves behave when they have a disagreement with someone.

>>33781371
This. Twittertrannies turned this shit into some political discussion and try to paint anyone against homo collabs as a dangerous schizo incel that is two steps away from committing a school shooting.
It's genuinely insane and even polite comments trying to explain why they don't like the change of direction get dogpiled by retards yelling incel.

>>33779334
Already unsubbed, filtered her channel on my holoextensions, cancelled my membership and blocked her on twitter. Now I'm just shitposting because she pissed me off with that snide, condescending twitter. What are you going to do about it? Huh? Are you going to kill me with the power of WORDS?

>>33781595
Anon even on here a few people being assholes doesn't represent every post. We're not talking about whether /vt/ should or shouldn't exist. We're talking about whether people venting here are somehow being entitled. If you really think the very rare condom money supachat is a horrible case of harassment when you consider how many people must post on here, then you don't have a sense of how bad real honest antis can get. People on /vt/ basically equate to gossipping women

>>33774375
IRYS decision to just come out and say "I'm not interested in Tempus" is based and people should accept this. Wanting the girls to collab because "Idol Culture Bad" is just as shitty as shaming the girls who do collab because "Idol Culture Good."
Gura should do the same thing, Just come out and say "I only collab with girls." If everyone made their stance clear right now things would be better, the only reason that Kronii caused such a fuss is because she's been flip flapping over the subject from day zero, Literally no one cared that Bae or Mori were in a collab.
Well no one worth caring about at least.

>>33780573
There is no difference between the two, Unicorns harass the fuck out of the talents like screeching grown manchildren afterwards and Homobeggers are literal trannies pushing their agenda to own "Muh toxic idol culture incels" while they aren't even fans to begin with

>>33781340
I'm not gonna dig up twitter anon. Just go visit that Kronii or Holopro post if you wanna see them

>>33781595
> collective responsibility for individual actions
Damn, I used to have absolute dogshit opinions when I was young.

>>33781643
Voting with your wallet is a retarded concept.
On the internet, attention is money.
If you don't like something, there's a hundred MILLION other things you can find.
Don't like a movie? There's different movies, even from multiple languages and cultures, and from different time periods.
Don't like a TV series? MILLIONS of others, again, different languages, cultures, and created in at least two different generations.
Don't like a manga/book/webnovel/anime? Millions of others are out there.

It's the same with VTubers, just on a smaller scale because the Hobby isn't as developed yet.
Don't like a VTuber?
Hundreds of others exist.
And hell, if none of them can satisfy the type of content you want, you can even BECOME one yourself.
Isn't that magical?

>>33781956
>Unicorns harass the fuck out of the talents like screeching grown manchildren
where? I believe that there are a few schizos who might have gone nuclear but I have the feeling that even people who tried to have a normal argument and be polite about their stance get counted as crazy incel unicorns harassing the talents. I mean that kinda happened in the comments already and fans are people too, just because someone doesn't like a certain content doesn't mean they deserve to be called incels and say they look like school shooters, that's fucking schizo behaviour.

I guess this is how it's going to be moving forward.
The opposing sides are now made clear to all.
The twitter horde versus the few strugglers.
It will be quite the journey.

>>33774662
Kronii can't think. She has the lowest IQ in EN. Lost to all kind of brain games, probably her grade in school wasn't good - the source of her depression

>>33774535
If IRyS is smart she's just ignoring everything and doing whatever she wants. If she's dumb she'll Kronii herself.

>>33774794
Ironically Sana is the most mentally matured in council, but she couldn't stream therefore no leading

>>33780618
PALESTINE!

>>33774662
Lmao she'll never realize it. She'll keep blaming the incels for all of her mistakes and become even more schizo. All it took to avoid this retarded shitty drama was for her to do her shitty 3 streams per week, ignore the homos and don't sperg on Twitter. Even if she wanted to collab with them she could've toned it down and do a big collab once per month.

>>33782273
And Miura died before the conclusion. I don't feel so good for Yagoo

>>33774739
>she never liked being the leader of her gen
Wait what? Council's entire problem beyond stupid timezones is a complete lack of leadership. No one seems to be interested in leading the charge when it comes to collabs. Usually it's just Kronii/Fauna/Mumei hanging out playing a game at best. That Mumei/Bae cooking stream in Japanese was neat though.

>>33782273
You're putting a lot of effort into self inserting into a story in which the "bad" guy (who really did nothing wrong) consistently won every single time after the sacrifice.

>>33781813
To be fair, there were self-admitted incels begging people to kill Kronii on this board over this drama.

>>33774662
Kronii doesn't even support herself, why would she care?

>>33782231
>Send condom SC's
>Screech in the comment section about how "it's over, the nijification has begun....."
>"Mori, Ame, Bae, Kronii ruined Hololive
>Literally reply to the talents on twitter about how they are "ruining Hololive" whenever they release a schedule and it has male collabs in it, these comments are usually found after scrolling down
>People like fucking Gabe, one of Kronii's vocal unicorns
You catch my drift, I have ACTUALLY seen some comments from my second and third points from fucking greyname unicorns
under that one Ame vod. There is nothing polite about this shit
Otherwise, I have no problem with concerned fans who are politely expressing their dislike of a certain type of content going forward. You are completely right about their unjustified labeling.

>>33782660
Of course she supports herself. Her and her boyfriend moved into their own place a couple months ago, don't you remember all the dokoposting because she vanished for two weeks?

>>33783141
>her boyfriend
You mean her dog?

>>33783187
Right, Canadian, sorry.

>>33782586
To be fair, there are people who regularly talk about the need to use nuclear weapons on countries for the smallest shit.

It's fucking 4chan. The fuck do you want, UN-style decorum?

Fag Armor the HomoBeggar.
It's got a nice ring to it.

>>33782344
>If IRyS is smart she's just ignoring everything and doing whatever she wants. If she's dumb she'll Kronii herself.
Luckily, she can just ignore it since most culture and media she absorbs is Japanese.

>>33783070
I mean those are shitty comments but far far from being harassment. Compared to the shit Coco went through with the chinks that's absolutely nothing and surely doesn't warrant the rabid crusade of the anti unicorn leddit crusade.

>>33783799
That's harrassment, especially when they are occurring at the same time. Just because Coco also was harrassed doesn't mean this isn't harrassment.

>>33783799
Its still harrassment anon, its no where near as bad as what coco got from the bug people but its still harrassment. I'm hoping and praying that both sides of this cancerous little culture war drop it sooner rather than later and let the boys and girls make their own decisions.

>>33783799
>that's absolutely nothing and surely doesn't warrant the rabid crusade of the anti unicorn leddit crusade.
Disagreement is all the motivation those types need.

>>33783989
>let the boys and girls make their own decisions
>while daph collab and the entirety of kronii
Sure.

>>33780482
Alright you know what, IRyS deserves Skull Knight status kek

>"I don't want drama! IRyS is happy right now!"
>wants IRyS to be unhappy and start drama by taking a stance on male collabs

Oh, there once was a dunce called Fag Armor the Red,
Who came riding to IRyS from old Kroniistead.

And the beggar did swagger and brandish his take,
As he told of bold claims and the drama he'd make.

But then he went quiet, Fag Armor the Red,
When he met the shield-maiden IRyS, who said;

"Oh, you talk and you lie and you drink all our mead,
Now I think it's high time that you lie down and bleed!"

>>33784090
People are allowed to make stupid fucking decisions anon.

>>33781729
I want to agree with you but holy ESL

>>33784426
>I want my Chuuba to make her own decisions.
>Huh, she made her own decision? THAT BITCH.
I hate fake people like this.

>>33774375
>it puts a damper on my enjoyment that IRyS is going to ignore part of holo
I love how homobeggars are flip-flopping with their stance
Sometimes they will go with what the chuubas want as the most important thing and sometimes they will say something like this
Does IRyS enable the memberships gift?

>>33783989
what the fuck happened to gabe...

>>33782344
Her japanese blood will prevent her from doing retarded things like that gook

If there was any doubt IRyS won’t collab with males, it was completely eradicated with the response to it. Completely non-chill. The homobeggers mad, the anti-beggars mad at homobeggers. Everyone is mad.

>>33774375
I mean 2/3 of CHaDcast encourage homo collabs, of course IRyS was going to be targeted by a big portion of homobeggars

>>33782231
>>33783799
You could same the same thing about homobeggars desu. I'm sure there are some moderates out there who don't want to, or don't mean to harmt he talents. Unicorns and beggars are two sides of the same shitty coin.

>>33774594
Yeah, me.

>>33774375
>that pic
jesas
homobeggars are actually insane, lmao.

>>33785434
>>33783478
>she will be fine because she's Japanese
Rushia...

>>33786236
Japanese will be fully on IRyS's side.

>>33785310
I'm honestly loving this. I can't wait until a large faction of them finally come out and say it; they think it's unethical for their oshi to not collab with the Stars and won't stand for her to side with "incels". I want them to raise a huge stink about it on twitter, as I'm confident they'll lose.

>>33784426
kek

They never watched them and only a minority of them picked tempus as their new objetive to beg but star fans always hated them too.

>>33787114
The difference is the Jp stars addressed homo beggars and said they do agree with them and anyone who does it should stop since you're harassing talents

It's so weird that EN fans use stream waiting rooms like it's discord or something.

>>33785313
Terminal autism and a big bank account

>>33779522
Unless they did a secret male collab early on that no one here knows about, there’s no “debut baggage” relevant to the discussion.

I don't get it, not even among the indies I watch on twitch there's this push coming.

>>33783989
Is this guy being ironic or is he mentally ill?

>>33783070
>You catch my drift, I have ACTUALLY seen some comments from my second and third points from fucking greyname unicorns
gaslighting. Damn, anyone with any interest in this knows that greyname homobeggers got btfo
>why don't you member
>aaaaah I buy merch

>>33787802
A significant amount of this drama is being forced.

>>33788176
kronie here the latter, it's the usual dude

And the best part of this entire drama arc is that literally none of it would have happened if only a certain someone looked at the sea of red flags over at NijiEN and realized it would be a bad idea to make StarsEN. Great job, Omega! You've managed to ruin the entire atmosphere of the EN branch and invite thousands of haters and harassers with one simple business decision.
Now what's the next step in your big plan?

>>33788393
Hire more men, of course!

>>33788393
EN3 with 100% rate of them being tempus fags

>>33788586
>final question of the audition is whether they want to collab with males or not
>anyone who says no gets sent home right away

>>33788393
We will never get a EN Peko or Marine at this rate.

>>33787802
probably because indies can collab with whoever the fuck they want and aren't part of a well known company so their situation is not the same at all

>>33788755
I hope some of them lies.

>>33774662
Don't know, but she and clockfags will be the laughingstock of this board for sure
Poor clockfags, but you live and die with your oshi so they must bear with it

>>33781841
jesus, please take my a fucking shower

>>33774662
Don't know. Don't care. I just hope she's happy with her decision now. Already unsubbed and unmembered. Small corpos are better anyway.

>>33789392
>please take my a fucking shower

What?

>>33789392
Oh shit, sick burn m8 u muderred him wit dat no wei

shudda talked bout him been udder virginz and shitz

>>33774375
What's their goal?

>>33774662
Keep crying, she still pulls 5views which cant be said for most of EN now a days.

I'm at awed that all of this LARPing/schizoposting can be linked down to a western idol twittard posting out of context Japanese replies to the Granblue/Love Live collab that was announced over four years ago. The Lil' Slugger of vtubing wasn't even fucking related to vtubers themselves originally. The collab happened back in 2018, way before Miko's Nigga moment but after the Christmas Miracle.

I think many people are wrong to think about the "why" the Unicorn Discourse happened, including me. Oddly enough, the answer is simple: just like how the denizens of Tokyo used Lil' Slugger as an excuse for their flaws, the belligerents of this war are just using whatever side they are as an excuse or a distraction to avoid any sort of shortcomings they have. This is not a matter of "both sides" but rather human nature itself.

The question of how is also simple. This phenomenon is just one of many that have grown out of control and have been exploited by those who only care either for profit or for the sake of attention.

The question to how to defeat it however. Well, after many hours, I have come to the conclusion that... there is no way to stop this. Just like how even the elite of the world that rule over us all in the shadows cannot stop mother nature's wrath, none of us who just want to enjoy vtubers in peace cannot stop the force that are dramaniggers.

All hope is not lost, however. Dramaniggers may always exist as a part of human nature, but that does not mean that they cannot be defeated. For you see, the dramaniggers will consider anything as a victory. Anything. Even being ignored and getting banned is a victory. Merely thinking about them is a victory. But I've realized just now that the dramaniggers' true goal isn't actually a "victory" in how a normal people would think of it, but disruption. It's easy to see how anything can be a victory if the ultimate goal is to disrupt something.

Even if a terrorist's plan is ultimately foiled and he is arrested before anybody could get hurt, he is still, technically disrupting the normal flow of life, and thus, in his mind, he is considered the victor, even if the proper procedures would put into place.

There is no reasoning with the dramanigger. Their motives isn't to have "discussions" but to "disrupt." Disrupt you for enjoying streams, disrupt you from enjoying your oshi, disrupt you from enjoying your life. I implore you anons, be proactive in your enjoyment and do not let the dramaniggers disrupt you. But I realize it is too late for some of you, or perhaps many of you. But for the few who are still resisting this, remember you cannot let the dramaniggers disrupt you. For your sake, and your oshi's.

>>33790376

>>33774375
Known hypocrits acting hypocritical. Shocking.

>>33774375
fucking grow up

>>33774662
>when she realizes
IF she realizes, she'll say it's not her fault and blame others as a coping mecanism

>>33785598
Even if someone were to grant your narrative is true, the homobeggars still come off far worse in this scenario because unicorns are encouraging the talent to keep doing what they are doing and that they will stay around to support them. While the homobeggars are saying stop doing what your doing and do my thing and I will support you on twitter but nowhere else as I move on to the next girl to harass. Unicorns don't harass girls who already make content they don't like from the start, homobeggars specifically target anyone who makes content they don't like and harasses them. They even harass the homos who also tell them to stop. They are purely malicious and have no honest motivations.

>>33790836
This, the unicorns ONLY existed in their fanbase because they were attracted to what the talent was selling in the first place. The virtue signalers want the talent to accept a change that was never there before.
Essentially, the unicorns want the talent to hold responsibility for what they'd set themselves up as, and the beggars want to change the talent into something they never were (or at least hadn't shown themselves to be).

>>33781595
All those condoms SCs? All me

>>33781189
There's ways to expand without resorting to Homo begging. Gura getting involved with JPs, producing new big content, and doing converts are also things that help with growth

>>33790836
true

>>33774375
It's funny because what she said never effectively ruled out a male collab which means that it's still on the table. Forget her anyways, the sound engineer is her whoredom.

>>33774375
>It's sad because Irys can't socialize with people if she doesn't stream with them
what kind of retarded thinking is this? seriously how fucking stupid are these people?

IF THEY (the hololive members) WANTED TO, THEY CAN CHAT AND GAME WITH EACH OTHER OFF-STREAM. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO STREAM THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH EACH OTHER ON LIVESTREAM AND TWITTER.

IRyS, Gura and other no-males girl should get spacemen outfit like the tenryuubitos since they can't share the same air with the whores and disgusting males

>>33774662
She'll be fine, don't worry about it

>>33781189
Generally you try to avoid alienating your core audience when you try to expand it. Think of it more like Julie Andrews going topless on film after doing The Sound of Music and Mary Poppins.

>>33774662
Kronii is the type of person who lives to own the incels if you haven't notice by her comments on her fans, so she's more than happy doing this, also she has made more money during her time in hololive than her whole failed VA career.

>>33774375
>if you don't like it leave
>homobeggar doesn't like it
>cries about it like unicorns with kronii
Oh the irony. Homobeggars are paper tigers.

>>33783070
I really don't think comments talking about nijification are harassment, especially if it's on a clip. That said no idea what comment section you'd find that in because I have seen absolutely none of those and I regularly read the comments of videos. Given how incredibly forced positive chuuba culture is I almost think you're just making it up

>>33788393
Make EN3 a mixgender gen

>>33796125
EN3 will have more genders than members

>>33796059
NTA but there are alot of comments like that in this Vod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8S8nIIMeZY
also make sure to scroll to the bottom on twitter next time a homo collab is on a schedule

>>33796125
>make a Gen where they all can’t be on the same MC server without pissing off the entirety of every other gen
Lmao

>>33796059
Unicorns are absolute cancer, they tend to harass the girls on twitter on a freshly made alt account (fucking pussies) when things don't go their way, go read through Ame's fortnite archive comment section or Mori's schedule post

>>33790836
I agree
Both are shit but homobeggers definitely come across worse in a scenario like this

>>33796125
This but unironically. Imagine the seethe.

>>33796890
Unicorns were the ones that got Rushia fired and sent death threats to Tempus before they made their debut. "Homobeggars" never did such a thing.

>>33796757
Oh Twitter. I guess I don't read Twitter.

>>33774619
Tempiss fans are all evil, insidious pieces of shit.

>>33797105
What's wrong with what he said?

>>33797022
>Unicorns were the ones that got Rushia fired
Apart from the cause of her being fired was leaking convos to outside sources

>>33797165
Lying about his motivations.

>>33797022
Yes they did. Who do you think all the girls' antis are?

>>33797022
More so Mafumafu’s unicorns than Rushia’s if we’re being honest, but the NDA breach from her is what really sealed the deal.

>>33795930
>paper tigers.
Chink detected

>>33796315
I wanna kek at this but I'm also horrified at the possibility of it actually happening being non-zero.

>>33779755
>OWN THE INCELS LOL YAS QUEEN
Why do homobeggars and normies wanna own incels so badly anyways? Why do they get off on "owning" and demoralizing an already depressed and demoralized part of society who just want to enjoy the few things they can? Seems needlessly cruel.

>>33788825
>EN Marine
Was never a possibility. What makes Marine special is how she carefully treads the line of having high sex appeal but not to the point of being a whore, only a jap could pull this off because of social norms.

>>33793585
Some people truly are idiots, thinking that if they don't see some form of physical evidence of the interaction, it can not happen.

>>33798880
Simple, shitting on a socially acceptable punching bag has no negative repercussions. It's all about consequences. If you know you won't get chastised for being a shithead to another person would you be a shithead?

>>33799293
I mroe menat for the stuff Marine does helping all of the girls in the background and she was a big one for making collabs happen a lot of times back then. Even Gura uses her right now to get stuff done with management, but not really anyone over here for that

>>33799701
>If you know you won't get chastised for being a shithead to another person would you be a shithead?
If that person was doing nothing wrong to me personally, no.

Redditors are siding with IRyS, one of the top posts says "collab begging is just as bad as collab banning"

>>33799794
Sounds a lot like what Ame is already doing

>>33800349
Sorry anon I like Ame, but it's not really even close. Even more on the management side of things.

>>33796757
Nah it's Nijisanji fans trying to sabotage Hololive.

>>33800349
Ame cobbles together an alternative to getting staff support. Marine actually knows how to play office politics and pull strings to get things done that can't be done by amateurs in a spare room.

Not like it even matters, they're all in discord together so they're constantly "collabing"

>>33800343
It's true
Homebeggers and Unicorns are two sides of the same coin, it's high time even redditors realized this

>>33800703
>>33800413
Clearly this is a thing because EN are primarily overseas though and not in Japan. Damn you guys are retarded.

IRyS is based it seems

>>33800927
They have staff specifically for supporting EN and they get pissy when they ask for too many permissions.

>>33797738
explain

>>33782560
That's the problem, there was no leader, canonically, Bae lead Council, but you would think Kronii would take some lead being the highest sub.

>>33798880
The same reason government handlers push their mentally ill charges to the brink until they go kill some people. It helps their narrative to give them more power over the society. Allowing people to just check out from approved society and start their own niche thing is the worst evil of them all because that's how you get people immune to the propaganda.

>>33779664
also didnt one of the holofags streamed with a rabid leftoid or something (literally anti-white hater, even more that than woke lmao)? cutting at least people like that off is the BARE MINIMUM

>>33800295
Not you, but others would. Mainly the other unhappy people. It's like the bullies in the school are often deprived in some way. It's one group of miserable people attacking another group of miserable people to feel better. Just one of the groups usually has the advantage of being cheered on by mainstream society. So the target of the hate is usually the group that no one wants to defend.

>>33801172
Only chinks or people subverted by them use that expression

>>33797022
>2023 isn't that far to come and there are retards still thinks antis and unicorns made her quit
discord is two blocks down buddy

Who?

>>33797022
>Reddit NPCs still think that Rushia was fired because "muh unicorns and toxic idol culture" almost a year later
That's a strange future we're heading for.

As predicted homobeggars are destroying Hololive

Now just imagine the seethe fujos go through when their oshi collabs with a holoharpy.

>>33774375
Remember. No homobegging

>"My oshi's happiness comes first! No one can tall her what to do!"
>She doesn't care about doing collabs with tempus
>"Why is she ignoring them? Is she scared? This will hurt her channel!"
I fucking hate this, they are worse than the unicorns

>>33805664
>chumpedo
opinion discarded

>>33806424
Show hard drive

>>33802522
You think someone with no sense of responsibility would take the leading position?

>>33805664
>factions and cliques
westoids love that shit though

>>33806532
But anon, they're women. None of them are willing to take responsibility.

Nothing wrong with asking for a collab until she answered. Now that she has answered respect her wishes, It ain't that hard. The only people asking after the fact are true homobeggers and false flaggers who are two sides of the same coin.

>>33774375
>They were virtue signaling
They always are. Homobeggars are the kind of people who will claim institutional oppression in America but when a refugee from North Korea says they're not, they'll tell the refugee he doesn't know anything.

>>33774375
Do these niggers not have a job or a life or some shit? What kind of faggot lives to create retarded drama like this?

>>33776807
Honestly she does seem like one of the most likely candidates among the EN for something like BPD.

>>33781189
>Entertainers who only play to their core audience never really grow or expand.
Explain Gura then.

>>33774375
>the vtuber's happiness comes first and that everyone should shut up and accept their decisions
Yes. If they want to collab with the homos, let them. If they don't want to, that's fine too.
I don't see why you faggots have to make this so dramatic. Just let the girls do what they want and if you don't like it, don't watch it.

>>33774375
God I love IRyS.

>>33800295
That's you. Most people have that pent up aggression that they need to release which is why they bully other people socially, since it releases both their aggression and there aren't any social or physical repercussions.

>>33800343
This is correct.
It's up to each girl to decide for herself whether or not she's okay with homo collabs, and crying about her decision, regardless of what it is, makes you a faggot.

>>33774375
For (You)

>>33795362
Her career won't.

>>33807495
This is probably how most fans feel, anon. You are contributing to at best the rantings of a very vocal minority of both extremes, and at worst, a serious raiding, baiting, and trolling effort employed by diversely motivated individuals and groups.
Either way, you should take your own advice. Don’t contribute to the drama; if you don’t like it, stop interacting with it.

>>33803819
magni
another that should never have made the cut
the holopro en recruiters know what they're doing
cunts

>>33774662
She WANTS that to happen.
She WANTS to fall from grace.
She WANTS to become a 3view.
She WANTS to crash this plane, with no survivors.

>>33803819
This is exactly my issue with the just let them do what they want stance.

>>33787802
This drama is being pushed by those same indies.

>>33808263
It should honestly only apply within the company.

>>33808209
>>33803819
Altare was moderating the chat and banning anyone who mentioned it too. they are fully intent on pozzing the shit out of it

>>33804017
explain

>>33774375
where is this from?

>>33774375
I'm skimming through the leddit thread and this Helmite faggot keeps defending the offending SC. Are we sure this isn't the same person who sent that?

>>33797022
Shut up if you weren't there.

>>33788393
It's all for the sake of that dream.. Any drama is inconsequential

Tempus was a mistake

>>33797022
this is what reddit brainrot looks like

>>33788393
Vtroons.
you are gonna have female models with male voices. Just watch

>>33788393
/vt/ always knew Omega was a raging faggot somehow. From making his own backstory to recruiting Tempus.

>>33809243
>somehow
The red flag was there from the start, like the fucking "omega" stream direct after the council debut instead of an actual collab

>>33789392
What's your Twitter bio pronouns? Also YWNBAW faggot

Nips have spoken

>>33810003
I just wish nips don't watch clip and find out the problem.

>>33810209
It's impossible for them not to know, it's not like only EN has clippers.

>>33810003
YWNBJ

>>33810288
Last thing I want is HoloEN getting dedicated JP antis. Given how often they will visit Japan in the future

>>33810003
I am a jp fan name (中出しされる快感), its fine and we don't care.

>>33810336
I don't wanna be. Fuck off.

>>33810366
This guy who's pretending to be Japanese while using /vt/ buzzwords does not represent the majority of JP.

>>33810449
>does not represent the majority of JP
Next thing you will say is majority of silent Japanese support cross gender collab

>>33798880
you see that one quite kid in your school that got bullied often? yeah same reason, you dont care about any of their suffering, its all for fun

>>33810523
The majority doesn't give a shit

>>33810003
YNWBJ chudcel

>>33810523
Not even picks a hardline stance like you and shitposts all day anon.

>>33810003
YWNBJ fuck off

What's the full list of HoloEN's that collabed with males?

>>33810630
>>33810704
See>>33810448
I don't get it. Was the shit I screenshot not really Japanese? I wouldn't fucking know.

>>33810523
i don't mind more HoloJP girls helping the JP boys

>>33810574
Kek.

>>33810765
japs are autistic and use landscape and sky images as avatar instead of anime pics like most larpers. you need to check his profile

>>33810003
BASED

>>33810972
Looks like a night sky anon, idk what to tell you
What it does tell me is that some people here get triggered when a JP post gets posted, for no reason at all

>>33810729
>Mori
Collab with Rikka, multiple with Tempus. A bunch of StarsJP group collab ideas that went nowhere.
>Bae
Multiple StarsJP collabs, multiple Tempus collabs.
>Ame
Worms tournament with Tempus, probably would have done a StarsJP collab before if not for the language barrier.
>Kronii
Multiple Tempus collabs.
>Mumei
One StarsJP collab, avoids Tempus.
In addition, Ina was in an animated segment with Shien, and Ollie’s Amogus collab that IRyS was in was originally going to include StarsJP, but they had something else scheduled and backed out.

>>33811096
Because it implies Japanese opinion weights more than theirs

Imagine if you spent a fraction of this autism on something that actually mattered. You fuckers could have cured cancer by now.

>>33811282
but streamers I don't watch are collabing with other streamers I don't watch and that makes me sad :(

>>33811282
but streamers i don't watch are not collabing with other streamers i don't watch and that makes me sad :(

>>33811188
These fucking autists. I only posted it to show that the news has spread, at least to some of them. How they interpreted it as JP having more weight only adds to how pathetic they are.

>>33811453
>>33811353
These two posts boils down the entire drama. People don't watch streams yet feel entitled to force what they want unto others.

>>33811096
A lot of normalfags and twitter/discord troons get triggered when you mention JPfags or HoloJP or japanese in general. They can't control the japs at all so they unironically start seething uncontrollably when the japs don't support their bullshit. Not to mention the fact that it exposes them as the foreign outsider parasites they are. Whenever you out normalfags and twitter/discord troons it's like exposing the Jew for being the parasite that he is. They start seething and calling you antisemantic (incel, chud, weeb, EOP, etc.).

>>33811895
That makes sense.

>>33774662
I blame Mori for putting the idea that this is a good strategy into her head.

>>33811976
This brings me back, When Hololive was smaller and they needed as many views as they could get.

>>33782572
>who really did nothing wrong
You need to be over 18 to post here.

What fucking shithole of a site is that

Listen, we don't wnat our waifus to fucking collab with MEN. Kronii betrayed us by collabing with males. So she can go get raped by a nigger. Fuck her and fuck any twitter jannie's.

We don't want them collabing with males. Simple as that and if they do they deserve to eb raped and murdered like the dityt whores they are. ja

>>33779522
How many fucking times does it need to be stated we don't care that the talent has a fucking life outside of their character, just don't bring that into the character.

Holy fucking shit.