/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33767057
i don't watch them

>>33767057
My main issue is that insecure streamers seem to default to trying to entertain eachother rather than the audience when collabing with the opposite gender
Its less of an issue when they are secure in themselves, but the overlap of secure in themselves and holo girls are low as fuck
Obviously I dont want my entertainer of choice to lower their entertainment value for no tangible gain
So I will act as a unicorn even if I know its a lie, because once you start compromising you already lost, so fuck them

>>33767057
I'm not on your pyramid. I don't watch Tempus, but I don't hate them.

I watch all of them. They're funny and have excellent chemistry, so watching them is entertaining. I believe they're all a net positive to holopro

>>33767057
I don't hate them
I don't like them neither

>>33767057
Every day I pray to god that they and Mori would just drop dead.

>>33767057
Put a "don't care" tier.
The majority is in that tier.

>>33767057
I refuse to watch them, but they're alright. Put me on the pyramid.

>>33767057
I fucking hate them and they have been a nonstop disaster to this hobby.

>>33767138
> streamers seem to default to trying to entertain eachother rather than the audience when collabing with the opposite gender

>psychological observations suggest that heterogeneous environment changes thinking patterns of primates to better attract mates, regardless of their sexual availability.

unicorns are cocksucking showerless cunts but they're on to something, men and women being in one environment fucks up any momentum for that environment, and turns it into a sexual competition even if they dont want it to.
This is why the modern schooling system is retarded, it fucks with competitive mindset for the craft, and turns it into a sexual competition

>>33767057
vestie here
Wish he didnt collab with dog lover and co, tempus collabs are ok I guess
his solo contents such kino its annoying seeing the invaders ruin it, and beggars endorsing it

>>33767057
I've never watched a single male vtuber. I don't even know what any member of Tempus sounds like.

>>33767388
This.
This explains what those bumbling faggots are trying to say, its the fact that
>Unicorns are incel faggots
and that
>coed environments lead to unwanted sexual tension which derails the point of having fun

it all becomes shipping faggotry, something that normies will never understand

Add a "Vesper is my oshi" section and put me there.

>giving a fuck about male collabs
cringe
>blacklisting any vtuber who collabs with vshojo
based

>>33767388

Is this true male anons?
do you just see a girl and subconsciously asks yourself
>"gee I wonder how my dick would feel in her pussy"
surely that's not the case right?
-_-'''

>>33767699
Do you not have female friends?
Regular girls think about sex as often as guys.

literally who at everything in the pyramid

>>33767057
I fucking hate homofaggots.
There has been nothing but drama since their debut and it isn't even funny drama. It's all just a bunch of bullshit.

>>33767817
i think of sex too, but im a kissy kissy sense
not that lewd, and no my friends talk about sex ofcourse, but more on the physique and look of the guy as a reliable man.

not as a sex flesh

>>33767057
I don't watch them and I won't watch them if they show up on a stream, and after how management responded to this shitshow I won't watch any of them that collab with them. There's other vtubers and I'm not going to waste time shouting into the void when I could watch them instead.

>>33767057
Literal fucking tumors.
I swear to god there isn't a single positive things about these niggers. They came into HoloEN and completely fucking ruined it. Collabed nonstop with the girls, caused a bunch of drama and poured a fuckton of ledditors and cucks into the community who don't even watch Hololive. On top of that they are boring as fuck and all they do is spam generic games the girls already played 200 times like MC and Raft. Some of them are alreay reaching 3views tier so this shit wasn't even worth it.

>>33767699
Uhhh yes.
All the time actually. What's wrong with thinking about it? Low chance that anything will happen anyway.

>>33767057
Where does "Tempus is alright but I only watch vesper" fit into that?

>>33767057
somewhere between 2 and 3 I guess, I can see that Magni is a giant normie faggot and I hate his inceleb collabs but I still find him entertaining in his solo content or collabs with the other boys except for Altare, that boy is a black hole of enjoyment
>>33767699
it's not something you necessarily think about but a man will always see a woman as a potential sexual partner, that's just the way our biology works
you may keep your distance when she's already in a relationship out of respect but if she's available there will always be the thought in the back of you head that she could be yours

>>33767699
Of course not. What happens is a boy starts to like a girl, which then triggers powerful mate-guarding instincts if any other male tries to get close to that specific girl.
At that point, it isn't fun to watch because of the stress hormones your brain releases involuntarily, urging you to attack rival males.

>>33768457
Damn, /MANS/ must really love you for having opinions huh

>>33767342
Majority is either in that tier or an “against male collabs, but not the males themselves” tier.

>>33768648
dunno, don't care, I haven't visited that forced unity shithole in a while

>>33767057
Top of the pyramid baby

>>33767057
I don't hate the males. I just don't want to see them. That is why I chose to watch Hololive which is an all-female group so I don't have to encounter any males.

For me it's the slope
I went from
>Man tempus is alright
>Damn Altare is kind of a faggot huh, and I'm not even talking about his voice and his made up stories
>Fucking hell Magni is a normie pleaser, pretty cringe mate, you want to be friends with those cocksucking backstabbing OTK people on twitch
>Axel is an actual retard
>Vesper please tard wrangle your Gen
>Now I see what the Unicorns mean
Add 2 layers
>I'm tired
>I want EN to burn

>>33767388
>>33767526
>>33768457
Fucking this. I'm not even an unicorn, the girls can do whatever the fuck they want in their free time, I just don't want to see that shit on stream. Whenver there is a male collab I can't help but compare myself to those dudes.
And I think it's pretty fucking normal considering that competing for females is pretty much one of the most primordial human instincts and extremely common in almost all animal species.

>>33767057
I have absolutely zero interest in males so I'll never watch them or any collab featuring them. I also hate people who beg for collabs with them and I fail to understand how that makes any sense, so I assume they try to self-insert into the males as they interact with girls they like.

>>33768999
>Vesper
uses tumbr phrasing and memes all the time. I've had to deal with faggots like him for years and want nothing of it.

>>33767057
dont care not watching but subbed bcause i support my oshi yagoo

>>33768999
TRIPS! TRIPS OF TRUTH

>>33767057
simultaneously in the "Tempus is alright" and "I only watch Vesper" tiers

>>33767057
Where's the "Tempus is alright but I absolutely fucking despise homobeggars" option?

>>33767057
I'm on the top of the pyramid or floating serenely above the pyramid because I actually like these guys. I didn't think I'd be into Altare's streams at first but he really grew on me; he's just a weirdo. The rest of the four were much easier sells to me, Vesper in particular since I have the most in common with him. Magni and Axel are also fun streamers. I tend to catch these guys when I can during downtime at work.
I can't say that I'm really all that interested in catching their collabs with Hololive EN, but that's mostly because I didn't really watch them to begin with. I get why some people are livid about the collabs, but they really don't seem to be making the situation any better for themselves with how they've been acting out during their oshis' streams and in their comment sections. I'm also not so sure that HoloPro putting out that public statement helped much either, but it was probably entirely to make the talent less anxious. I dunno.

>>33767057
I'd switch the 4th and 3rd level and say that I think magni's a bit of a soulless normie because altare's a mystery to me still and so far he hasn't been acting too fake-y. i just gotta get used to his voice and watch how he acts

>>33770639
>he really grew on me
>He grew in me
Ftfy faggot

>>33770781
my armchair diagnosis is that he's a low empathy autist that tries really hard to mask it.

>>33770864
a psychopath of sorts? omoshiroi I'll keep that in my back pocket sir, doumo arigatou

>>33770864
oh, btw you gotta remember that, according to /mans/, he's been through a lot of trauma, so it could just be pent up emotions. and there might come a time where he explicitly ran away from or try to steer clear of a situation and if he failed to do so he'll blow up like a kettle

>>33770914
I dunno if I'd go that far anon-kun but he is wired a little differently.

>>33771010
how about this >>33771006 as a hypothesis?

>>33771006
that is also very true. he's alluded to having anger issues. I doubt he's going to let that culminate in an episode on-stream though, in all honesty.

>>33771069
Agreed, most likely something that can only happen off-stream. Dudes better guard their discord chats and not show them on stream like amateurs
pleasure talking with you sir, have a soundpost

>>33770864
>>33771310
>>33771069
>>33771057
You guys are overthinking, Altare is a normie fake faggot pleaser. The type to say
>Yo don't disrespect women bro
While being the most misogynistic tard there is
>Yo don't be homophobic brah
While being the most homophobic fuck there is
>Yo I'm real with my homies brah
While being the most envious faggot there is

And I wouldn't really care, were it not for him being so god damn lame and unfunny
Faggot korean needs to make story up just to be interesting, because he himself knows he's a boring cocksucking son of a bitch

>>33767057
I only watch Vesper when he plays certain games like Project Zomboid.

I won't watch males or anyone who interacts with males. Nothing more and nothing less.

I guess I'd be up top by virtue of being membered to Vesper (kek) and not otherwise caring about collabs. Oh, and Kronii handled the issue very poorly.

>>33767057
I started out liking all of TEMPUS except Altare because of his voice. Didn't hate Altare, tho. Then I hated Magni for his 39daph collab decision, because I remember 39daph is a fucking bitch. I also came to dislike Magni because he chose to have a defensive personality. Whenever someone teases him he'd get defensive immediately without playing along even once, unlike Axel. After seeing unicorn and CGDCT posts, and then experiencing some streams where only girls interact with each other; I decided I like female chuubas better and generally dislike male-female collabs unless if they have chemistry, which they don't, in Holopro's case (Kobo + Altare seems good). TEMPUS also pulled the $100 membership crap when most of Holomems don't even have that tier. So I dropped them.

Sorry for reddit spacing, but this point deserves its own paragraph. TEMPUS has the best unity out of any gen I've paid attention to, so far (even more than Gen 5 Hololive); but it's consuming them. When they come out with the $100 membership as a "united front", I feel like they killed most of the autonomy they had as individual streamers. I'm not into this commie shit. Being united is fine, but they have to have the balls to decide away from the group if they think it'll help their channel. Put me in the "don't care about them" tier, but very close to "I fucking hate the homofaggots" tier.

Both top and bottom. I feel like I'd like the homos if I gave them a shot, I saw axel's interaction with nodoka on twitter and tempus seem to have a fun dynamic with each other. The thing is the whole "just watch and consoom you whiny pissbaby chud incel" makes me not want to engage with them at all out of pure spite.

>>33771310
nene is a treasure. oh my god.

>>33771654
I probably haven't watched enough of their streams, but I'd much sooner attribute that to Mori than Altare

>>33771947
"/MANS/ hate him"
Find out how this anon managed to revive his dying brain for free

>>33767057
Tempus is alright but I don't care about them at all.
Holostars JP is still superior.

There should be a tier saying
>I want to line up /MANS/ posters and gun them down

>>33771947

You are a retarded newfag

You're apologizing for reddit spacing like a little bitch

You dont know what reddit spacing even is

Kill yourself

I originally watched a stream by them just to see how shit it'd be or what kind of losers would cover find but honestly they're at worst fine and genuinely funny at best, even some of the "doomsday" streams that everyone dreaded here were funny enough or blown way out of proportion to how harmless they were.
I'd reccomend people give them a view or two at least unless you're the kind of person that cant stand hearing a male voice in which case i think you have bigger problems at hand than 4 guys who'd be bullied in highschool getting into "pretending to be anime"-online

>>33772493
>Kill yourself
Only if we start a suicide cult together, anon.

>>33767057
Hate them, wish it never happened.

>>33767057
Love them, wish it happened sooner

>>33767057
Lost faith in Vesper since he is doing the exact same shit he did back when he was not in hololive and will likely go down the same gaybaiting road once his numbers go down again.

Is it really this bad in SEA that the men there are this fucking insecure and unable to form friendships with women? I thought the schizophrenia chart was just a meme

>>33767699
That's the case, it's not that explicit but it's always there in the subconscious, it's easy to hold back if for example you have a significant other but the idea is always there in the back of the mind.

>>33767057
What about Axel is pretty funny for being a based retard and everyone else is either mentally ill or a tryhard faggot?

>>33768617
>At that point, it isn't fun to watch because of the stress hormones your brain releases involuntarily, urging you to attack rival males.
This anon gets it.

>>33768999
Best Post ITT. We still have not had actual cool male EN vtubers yet and it sucks

>>33772493
Woah mr. Cool guy
Calm down
Trying too hard too fit in aren't we mr. edgeter?

Feeling daring aren't we? Going past bed time maybe?

Axel Axel Axel...

>>33767057
just don't like 'em

>>33772737
MAXIMUM PROJECTION OVERDRIVE!

>>33767699
Nope. A woman has to be insanely hot and hit all of my fetishes at once for that to be one of the first things that crosses my mind, something that rarely ever happens. I don't tend to see shortstacks with long hair in sheer clothing walking around very often.
I've also never been one to have one night stands or anything; sex outside of a romantic context doesn't interest me at all.

>>33773075
>download.jpg
>thumbnail

>>33773108
>Posting anything related to his post
Up yours woke dogmatist, we'll see who cancels who

>>33767057
I don't watch them, and their presence is barely tolerable. Luckily, Gura is my EN oshi, and she has shown so far to have zero interest in them, so I'm feeling pretty good right now. But that's not to say things will last that way forever. Should the worst come and she collabs with a male, I'll be learning Japanese and move over to JP since at that point EN will be beyond saving.

>>33767057
I watch some male streamers, but that isn't what I'm looking to get out of vtubing. I also watch cgdct anime, and that's the angle that got me into HoloJP and beyond.
So I don't hate Tempus, and I don't get angry at them or collabs, but it's not a dynamic I'm interested in either. If the engagement level from HoloEN is like someone like Fubuki or Towa then no problems, if it becomes a major part of the output then I'll likely stop watching.

>>33767057
I never give them a view, even with clips. Because they are changing hololive as I know it

>>33767243
Outsider btfo

>>33767057
That pyramid is shit.
It should be split by stance not by members.

>>33767057
I only watch Vesper solo but the others are good during stars collabs. None of them are good in cross gender collabs, I don't give a crap about idolshit but those streams have all been cringe and they really need to stop it and go back to the kino that really made shine early on, aka their collabs with Astel and the other senpais.

>>33767057
So glad that I've never check on them and ignored the astroturfing. I only suck and vacuum popular males' dicks

>>33767699
I'll tell you a secret only boys talk in private: they talk about fantasies of fucking a girl they know. It's like a horny thread but with real girls in there

>>33768229
If there really is high demand for male vtubers why are there no small corpos which focus solely on them?

>>33768617
In the end, unicorns are the one who honest with their feeling

>>33767057
If they love male so much why don't they watch Niji and JPStar?

>>33767057
They're alright, for Hololive, which is to say inoffensive and dull. I'm sure they're fine people in their own right, but the Holos have been stagnant for a while.

>>33773810
Because literally 99% of the big streamers are dudebros so dudebros streaming with an anime avatar aren't really needed.

>>33773810
Because it's a niche hobby for otaku. This whole thing exists to cater to weebs and everyone is playing follow the leader with Japan.

>>33767443
You better start complaining to him then, Kronii just completely removed her normal seiso filters for that collab, it was jarring.

>>33770807
what a projection lmao
do you enjoy dicks so much anon?

>>33767388
This is also why letting women into the workplace was a mistake. The more you know.

>>33767057
I just want to hate Kiara, gtfo males

>>33767057
Vesper is great when he's not collabing with mori

>>33767057
neat