/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Botted streams

>>33764513
Ew

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>33764513
/news/ roundup for 21-09-2022
>>33709109
Recent clip numbers
>>33699829
>>33699859
>>33700466
>>33700501

>>33763518
So Dr.Disrespect just dodged the bullet before it happens?

>>33764217
Most of their members have low numbers on Twitch which already has viewer bloat. How many of those viewers do you think will actually transfers over to Youtube? All the Twitch streamers Susan has bought off had a drop in numbers.

>>33764513
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>52,693: Fubuki (Hololive)
>43,222: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,762: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,194: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>21,741: Korone (Hololive)
>20,649: Haachama (Hololive)
>20,599: Tachibana (VSPO)
>18,236: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,715: Lui (Hololive)
>15,807: Salome (Nijisanji)
>15,380: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,503: Okayu (Hololive)
>14,488: Ame (Hololive)
>13,032: Flare (Hololive)
>12,975: GatchmanV (Indie)
>12,340: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>12,316: Lui (Hololive)
>12,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>11,230: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,348: Runa (VSPO)
>10,032: Luna (Hololive)
>10,020: Tamaki (NoriPro)

>>33764607
>>33764613
Kys crossposter

WAIT
AZKi IS THE ONE WHO WROTE THE NOTES TO KIARA
HER BEING PUPPET MASTER WASN'T A JOKE

>>33764342
I could see Mori or Kronii playing the straightwoman, but yeah there's no good fit for the role which is weird

Uhhhhh Sonny? You doing okay there?

list of chud cope
>I-It's the novelty!
>J-just wait a month or two!
>It was mostly greys on the chat, t-trust me!
>it's a s-slow decline..
>D-drama b-buff!
>collabs do well, but solo content will tank trust me!
>t-they don't d-donate!

>>33764273
>Mumei: Outright said she doesn't like playing minecraft alone and will only really play it in a collab or if she joins someone's VC
>Bae: Plays sometimes but is seemingly single-handedly making the ID portal by herself. 0 planning with other members so none of the general HoloEN viewers really give a shit about this project.
>Kronii: KEKW
>Fauna: Trying her best, but farm build streams are no VC and the novelty is wearing out.
>Irys: Hasn't touched Minecraft on her own volition in like 9 fucking months
>Gura: Doesn't even stream.
>Mori: Hates Minecraft
>Ame: Rust Rust Rust
>Kiara: Hates Minecraft after months of playing alone in her lonely timeslot
>Ina: Doesn't stream.
Gotta wait for the season to change.

I wonder why the majority of Nijisanji EN insists on streming during NA primetime.
They had an 11 stream overlap 2-3 hours ago.

Don't they see that this overlap is literally killing their channels?
Why not spread out the streams?

>>33764714
cry more

>>33764699
That's just embarrassing.

>>33764714
Go back.

>>33764613
While I don't think they will do that great it would at least make the EN gold tally a little more interesting since it's just Niji vs. Holo as it stands. I know the EN Gold guy includes small corpos (hence the others category) but the 5k threshold is a massive filter for them. I think the only indie/small corpo stream to ever make the EN Gold list was that Bae/Miori off collab karaoke stream (not counting the botted Sara stream that hit 40k).

>>33764699
that looks like a raid into another raid and ending the stream during a Z

>>33764660
Shut up, retard. I'm talking numbers rather than whatever stupid garbage bait you're going to post or shit about.

>>33764699
Thanks for making Regis's Zelda numbers look fine, Sonny!

Holy shit

>>33764821
wow, nips liked it

>>33764821
Isn't half of it due to gifts from like four dudes?

>>33764807
Blue Boy would probably have better numbers with Ocarina than Twilight Princess too.

>>33764821
nyanners_reveals_her_bf dot png

>Peko no fgo
So niji gold today https://youtu.be/H3jPYglXptY

>>33764693
Hope for a hag in EN3 and not a cringe one like Nina, ugh.
We need a real mommy in HoloEN to fill the tardwrangler role.

>>33764217
>Will VShojo moving en masse over to Youtube pose a significant threat to the dominance of Hololive and Nijisanji?
Depends if they keep using the twitch meta in youtube then no since its two different audiences with two different behaviors.

>>33764738
Doesn't matter, nji does not have a box.

>>33764527
botted post

>>33764821
http://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/4WCUqrsTcHM.html

>>33764821
i don't get it, YWNBJ

>>33764781
Jokes on you, it will convert twitch tourists to Holo or Nijifans. Or probably convert some of them to watch HoloJP.

>>33764821
I am happy for Kronii.
She seems to enjoy her time during the stream.

She's probably the biggest schizo in the entire branch so it's good to do things to improve her mental state.
Hopefully it leads to more effort/streams from her part.

>>33764738
Wave 7 and Gamers will contents CN primetime don't worry. Lexiem will get a taste of it

>>33764925
Vshojo would be doomed if they get into Youtube

>>33764869
>>33765013
How can you be posting here and not know how Hololyzer works

>>33765069
>No more forsen aura buff
Yeah you right

>>33765047
>Hopefully it leads to more effort/streams from her part.
Nah

>>33764980
Botted minds

>>33765050
>CN
>Gamers
I would not wish that curse even for nijisanji especially if any of their gamers are assfaggots.

>>33764917
I don't think the lack of a tardwrangler is the only problem. I enjoyed the interview series that Vesper did with all of Tempus and there's a similar series of streams in the new kawaii gen. All it needs is someone sociable that's not afraid to host a collab like that.

>>33765047
somehow you managed to be most delusional post today

>>33764821
The SC number isn't like mindblowing, but for a collab, it's pretty great.

>>33765083
People here still ask what vrabi is every day.

>>33765121
We'll see, I guess.

>>33764781
Honestly I doubt it'd change the gold tally at all outside of maybe pulling 1 or 2 gold a month. Ironmouse and Vei generally peak around 9-11k and Youtube would be a lot less of a friendly platform for them.

>>33765069
No more react content? 100%

>>33765069
This! Vshojo sharing box with flesh streamer on twitch.

>>33765002
where's the
"people who don't like male collabs are school shooters"
can't find it

>>33765002
>MembershipGift(贈った:5、贈られた:175)
w

>>33765020
I doubt they'll watch HoloJP, VShojo fans aren't fond of idol culture and HoloJP is quite possibly the worst offender of that on Youtube.

>>33765169
still better than 30 days of holo/niji golds

>>33764781
dont think it will change gold especially when most of their contenders have a 10k average and thats in twitch, when its in youtube its gonna be a lot less lower.

>>33765148
>People with experience in hosting an interview series
That's Kiara, who would be the worst person to host a golden collab like like this lol
I get you tho. Even in Tempus, no one can fill Vesper's role either in that kind of stream so it's not like they grow on trees.

>>33765169
It would make it a lot easier for them to try and approach hololive/nijisanji and try to pull a Shoto.

>>33764607
I mean this is less of a bullet and more of a realignment so that the top dogs stop getting preferential treatment.
Had he actually gotten signed back to Twitch he'd still be making more money, but at least this way he doesn't have the hassle of having to deal with a change in revenue split down the line.

>>33764821
Seems fine enough. She'll probably have some fall-off with her unicorn members, but if just doing what she wants gets her streaming more often it's a good thing.

>>33764699
Double raid with significant bleed-out jeezuz.

>>33764738
I think listening to the numbers thread is why hololive is so shit, and Nijisanji is so awesome.

Numbers thread advice:
>stream less
>avoid overlaps at all costs
>spam buff games
Just the maximize the all-important ccv counter.

Meanwhile Nijisanji streams a LOT, streams diversified content, and doesn't feel bad about doing non-buff streams. It's fantastic. I enjoy having 10 different streams to choose from.

I like the homo collabs..

>>33765069
Can Vshojo even move to youtube? Their CEO is in bed with Twitch

>>33727547
jwu
> 14kavg, 16k peak
about as expected I suppose

if en vtubing scene is similar to fleshie drama shithole, will it improve en vtubing number-wise?

>>33765361
faggot

>>33765151
nothing more delusional than unicorn cucks

>>33764653
>September
>HoloFGO
>3 golds
>Nijisanji
>2 golds
how do we save nijisanji?

>>33765358
Liar bitch

>>33765407
No!

I don't get it, what's so different that Kronii getting 175 gifted memberships needs to be pointed out while Chloe and Haachama also broke the 100 mark with not much fanfare just a day ago?

i dislike homo collabs...

>>33765432
More 3D debuts

Suisei on break, gets 700k+ views in the last day. Is this normal or did something happen?

>>33765481
Incel

>>33765407
numbers would be like nijijp where you are a irrelevant 3vie 95% of the time except for koshien but instead of koshien it would be megadrama.

>>33765456
18, jesas

>>33765278
I imagine Hololive would ignore them outside of the few people that already collabed with Ironmouse. Nijisanji would probably collab with them and lose viewers like they did with Shoto though. Overall I can't see the platform change going well for them however.

>>33765480
because they can't own the chuds if they don't pretend a 300k yen stream is like a big deal, not like there's several jps that get that every fucking time they stream

>>33765407
No, it'll just be cringe seeing anime avatars with limited expressions argue on discord and shit on each other.
Part of the reason why fleshtuber drama is popping off right now is because xqc's body language is hilarious and people can actually cry on stream and look ridiculous.

>>33765383
Women evolved to be deceptive. It's their only weapon against a man. When she's talking to a man, the lies start coming out her mouth. That's why you should absolutely never listen to a woman's advice on relationships or anything, because they are lying to you.

>>33765503
suisei is on break so hoshiyomis need to get their relief somewhere.

IRyS is so amazing!!!

>>33765456
HE'S GOING SUPER SAIYAN

>>33765186
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/qNzz9ZlwzcM.html

>>33765407
>Let's take a mostly 'separated from drama' environment and drop it into a drama shithole, therefore making everyone who liked the mostly drama-free enviro leave!
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!?!?!

>>33765588
wrong thread multiplethreadocrat

>>33765361
chad

>>33765503
Songs, songs, songs.

>>33765480
Eh people are trying to doompost Kronii so it's supposed to counter that.
Hachaama getting 118 gifted members on a 4k stream is pretty insane.

>>33765627
The best part of IRyS' stream just started, the superchat reading. I love it when she talks to us.

>>33765481
virgin

>>33765503
Suisei rarely streams and most of her views are from music. Her being on break doesn't change much. I don't know why she got 700k though. Something might have been unprivated.

Got a lily gift. I will now try the indie pill, the drama is souring my enjoyment of streams recently. I'll come back when EN3 comes

>>33765713
Tell her to stop doing them, it kills her CCV averages.

how we doing bros

>>33765570
I'm not so sure, with the mood in HoloEN loosening with Tempus's addition, it's likely EN3 might have a couple of female Magnis. And that's if Tempus doesn't get in close with VShojo themselves in the first place.

>among us collab is overlapping the NFL

>>33765503
All me.

>>33765503
did you get that from holostats? the website still seems to be having some issues with backlogs and tracking

>>33765764
Happy. Ame is the real gfe.

>>33765736
>12 hours ago
>33 likes
ogey

>>33765762
never, the side-content has ended, now the real content has begun

>>33765407
Drama just brings short term gain from tourists that won't SC, member, merch and definitely don't give a shit about you.

>>33765762
Average is a meme stat anyway. Median is the one that actual matters.

>>33765736
Fair enough take, enjoy your sabbatical from the drama.

>>33765456
That's quite the elevated heartrate, Switch Sports must be taxing

>>33764653
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order

>PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
2x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Ayame, Marine
1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
170x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
17x: Miko
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>33765480
>Chloe
18 people gifting
>Haachama
20 people gifting
>Kronii
5 people gifting, one of which gifted only 5

>>33765770
Mumei was a collab partner with Bao, Shoto and a bunch of these twitch streamers pre-Holo. She hasn't done any collabs since.
Not everyone is like Mori after joining Hololive and even she has greatly reduced outside collabs after some backlash.

>>33765812
Buckle in for the next 2 hours fellow IRyS chad. This is gonna be a good one. It's already off to a great start.

>>33765816
Wrong >>33764821

>>33765823
They're useful for different reasons. Median gets easily skewed by raids and Zs, whereas average gets fucked for people like Kiara, IRyS and Watame who do a lot of SC reading.

>>33764732
Damn this branch is so so dead

>>33765896
have you ever heard about what happened to nyanners after she revealed her boyfriend

>>33765811
Only Ludwig successfully transitioned and grew from his change in platform

>>33765890
I can't believe we got 30 seconds of Acapella September in exchange for vod-prison to all the out-of-timeslot watchers

>>33765909
SC reading is boring content and should be recorded in the statistics accordingly

>>33765896
He said short term retard, it's literally been 3 days. No one has any idea how the long term will look.

>>33765896
>Short term gain
NTA, but a "Yea let's drop money to support the women owning the haters!" and then fucking off forever is pretty similar to what happened to Mori during the lean yab arc.

>>33764714
Not interested with your selfie

>>33765912
more like this branch has no sense of cohesion and unity

>>33765870
So the impressive part is the memberships gifted per gifter ratio? I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean though.

>>33765480
100+ gifted members is uncommon unless you're Watame or Pekora. I agree it probably doesn't mean too much as it's fresh off some drama. We'll see where she's at in a month or two.

>>33765896
>forgetting about what happened to mori, ollie, nyanners etc

>>33765787
Asians don't watch NFL, they watch soccer

>>33765879
It saddens me whenever bao mentions mumei anywhere and just gets ignored.

also shoto and mumei seems so wrong together

>>33765909
Average is affected more which is why I like median. Median isn't perfect but a couple Z's and Raids aren't going to turn a shitter into a superstar for that number, they are still largely going to be a shitter. Average on the other hand has too much variance. I think it was last month or 2 months ago but IRyS had a 9.2k median yet her average was like 5.4k due to hours of superchat readings.

>>33765909
The Holos that do long SC readings get more SCs. They're choosing to filter the gameplay only viewers for SCers, and the numbers reflect that. So when looking at SC numbers should we automatically adjust up the low SC numbers of members that don't read them to reflect that?

>>33765927
Ludwig was always a youtube VOD uploader anyways and it's his main form of content.
It is pretty cool tho how he took the bag youtube gave him and used it to make creative content, which got huge numbers. Meanwhile people like Dr. Disrespect don't do shit with it.

>>33765927
Well, to be fair he had already been reclining on Twitch prior to the change, the switch up forced him to approach his content a bit differently, and also allowed him to run his secondary channel thing (Mogul Mail) which is pretty interesting from the few times I've watched it.

>>33765736
If the drama is souring your enjoyment of stream it's because you're in here. If you just watch streams you would largely be unaware of it.

>>33765991
Neither does JP1 but they manage somhow

>>33765573
To be fair JPs rarely get a lot of SCs during collab streams. Even Chloe won't get 300k yen for a collab, she had less than 20k during her recent RUST collab with Lamy and Kanata.

>>33766073
Dr Disrespect didnt take money from YT or did he get a deal later? Because he went to YT due to being perma'd off Twitch for a still unknown reason.

>had to settle for 3 years old device when the new toys are fresh out of the oven
Nakirigumibros your SC reps........

>>33766060
Can of worms I'd rather NOT open, just keep ind mind the point when looking at Median and Average numbers.

>>33766036
>Overlapping Nations League

>>33765839
Cheers. I think more people here took the JP route instead which explains the increase in Last Samurais

>>33766138
>japanese
>liking new technology
pick one

What are the odds of Sumire outfit breaking 35k and winning gold?

>>33765954
>>33765970
He's wrong about the part where they won't SC and member, because they clearly have.

>>33766102
A lot of that is due to getting enough other members that those interested in joining other groups were able to do so. Same with gen 2.
Yagoo is aware, hence his own words that "They should've gotten into NA sooner". No doubt he sees the issues of HoloEN come from not having the ground infrastructure in place to support 15-20 talents until now.

>>33766059
Average is more fair, since looking only at the peak means that there's a difference between reading SCs at the end of a stream vs. in a different stream. IRyS also has a tendency to peak high and then bleed viewers when not overlapped, which shows up in the average but not the peak

>>33766204
There is a Niji 3D debut today, no?

>>33766132
I remember a rrat saying he did but not on the same level as sykunno or ludwig

>>33766036
Also baseball (if talking about Japan/Korea)

>>33766204
40k even

>>33766168
I wouldn't mind them if they weren't so obnoxious about it. I already watched both from the start of my vtuber watching stint (Gura->Aqua->Suisei->Rest of myth) so its sorta weird to me, but I might just be the weird one.

>>33765456
tourist here, is this what botted streams look like?

>>33766094
>If you just watch streams you would largely be unaware of it.
For real. The only time I think drama actually affected HoloEN was when Mori responded to the cuckbeat tweet and most of the aware HoloEN fanbase shat on her for engaging with it.

>>33765879
That's because the mood was different before management came out with the statement that they support the talents in whatever they choose to do. Things should probably be different moving forward.

>>33766255
It's the guy who has like one of the lowest averages isn't it? I only remember him as the soccer guy since the Nippleman incident prevented him from being in the J-League collab for a month or two and he was sad about it.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1572752750643154951
> chugai contents
remember this nigga?

>>33765896
come back in a month anon

>>33766285
no, it's a repeating Z, which is a bug we still have no clue what's caused by

>>33766205
You've failed to establish that the ones doing that are tourists. The membership gifters were also four people.

>>33766094
Nah, the fun part of enjoying streams is discussions. What will I get from Plebbit? If anything, it's even worse there with even more Homo masturbation. I can still partake here but with not the same level of attachment for EN as before, good thing i still enjoy JP

>>33766094
Only if you literally ONLY watch streams and not engage in anything else. No Twitter, no Youtube comments, no reading Youtube chat,, no reddit, no Facebook.

>>33766236
Peak shows the total number of viewers a chuuba is capable of drawing. It really is the only thing we should look at. Considering bleed for a 6 hour stream is pointless since very few people are going to watch a full 6 hour stream.

>>33766368
Iroha looks like Millie

>>33766285
It's a youtube bug. A botted stream would be much more than a 1k fluctuation.
This is the worst it's ever looked tho.

>>33766236
she did her best impression of a discount stable octopus destination tonight, anyone with 4hr+ length streams should expect at least some amount of churn and bleed, but it's not anything more than 10-15%

>Nyanners boyfriend shit again
She's still the 4th biggest EN vtuber on Twitch behind Shoto, Ironmouse, and Lily.

>>33766422
Here is the only place that actual cares which is what I think he meant. Sure there are people who bring it up on twitter and reddit but they are quickly ratio'd and beat down by the vast majority of people who enjoy the content.

>>33766447
>youtube "bug"
funny how youtubes weird "bugs" only seem to affect nijisanji for some reasons.
got any explanation anon?

>>33766368
My company uses those same characters for our animated HR skits so it's so fucking weird whenever I see them posted here and when they showed up on the Hololive stream.

>>33766490
Well that's on a 5k stream
>>33766438
I'm thinking of a stream like picrelated. It's a 10k stream, but not really

>>33766517
I don't think Shylily is bigger than Veibae even if I want it to be true.

>>33766517
>EN vtuber
This distinction is only getting less prestigious over time

>>33764821
/vt/ unicorns btfo

>>33764875
Yes

>>33766517
>4th
damn what a drop

>>33766517
you mean Veibae, i know they sound the same but they arent the same person, i think.

>>33766422
It's mostly only here and deep in YT/Twitter replies is the only place you're going to find people actively shitting on Kronii over this. Most people just say positive things or don't care. If someone can't handle drama it's easy to avoid.

>>33766584
It never had any in the first place

>>33766517
Vei has around a 3,000 higher average than Nyanners this month

>>33766523
That's not the issue, the issue is whether or not there's awareness of drama. And the entire fanbase is aware that there's drama. Beating down a minority is still creating drama especially when they're piling on instead of ignoring it. See: mizkif trying to cover up sexual assault, most people are going to shit on anyone defending him, doesn't mean it's not drama.

>>33766517
Nyanners dropped to 6th iirc

>>33766517
isnt veibae bigger than nyanners now?

>>33766517
>all those posts saying Vei is higher than Nyanners as if Vei doesnt stream with her own boyfriend every other day anyways too
Boyfriends mean nothing to the western man

>>33766889
>anon is too smoothbrained to know what the difference between vei and nyanners is.

Ngl Nyanners recent stats are pretty grim
>Stream significantly more hours the past 3 months
>Still down 24% of your average viewership
Her average also gets lower the closer you get to today

>>33766960
Yes, Nyanners stopped streaming for months on Twitch a literal cardinal sin of twitch streaming.

>>33766706
Read the reply chain, I'm replying to someone who said they'd be unaware of drama if they weren't on 4chan. That is factually wrong the moment Kronii and management made the entire fanbase aware that there was drama. It doesn't matter that the rest of the net is responding positively with well-wishes. Look at Rushia, getting an outpouring of support that drowned out most negative tweets. Are you going to say there was no drama involved behind it? Of course not.

What happened to that Grifter Code Miko? I don't see a lot of buzz about her "tech" or her big numbers anywhere even outside of here

>>33766889
You forgot to add that Vei’s bf is soda poppin one of the higher tier of twitch streamers. Imagine Laplus dating FPS Shaka and him giving her a few thousand viewer boost because he sometimes shows up on stream.

>>33766889
Vei still reclined too anon she just didn't recline as hard as Nyanners

>>33767016
shell probably be back to win best vtuber twitch award again then fade into irrelevancy again

>/#/ uses nyanners as an example
>completely ignores ironmouse

>>33766889
Funny you should mention her bf since his name have also been popping up in the drama.

>>33767016
Nice tech ain't gonna save shit streamer

>>33767016
She was always a 2-3k ccv shitter apart form like one month.

>>33767065
literally every single streamer has reclined even in the last month. Look at Shylily and Shoto, theyre both also down this month.

>>33767077
we like single mothers here

>>33767002
She took a long break

>>33767071
Watch Nazuna get it over Iron Lung this time. Cripple can't catch a break

>>33767016
Tech is a gimmick, which is nice to have but doesn't necessarily give you big numbers.

>>33767077
ironmouse is using the zillianop method.

>>33767077
maybe I was too young but I remember that one wheelchairbound streamer winning at life until he accidentally stood up and everybody else walked off too

>>33767077
I remember vshojo fags being high and mighty because they had 2 11k CCV chuubas in Ironmouse and Veibei and 10k CCV in Nyanners.

>>33767224
kek that was gold

>>33766889
Soda is like a top 10-15 streamer on all of Twitch. That's like believing Guras numbers would drop if she suddenly started dating IShowSpeed.

>>33767224
thats zillianop, ironmouse is also using his technique.

>>33767077
iron is single and brown
no one cares

>>33767118
Good thing I'm using 3 months for these comparisons then.
Shylily is also up for the past 3 months unlike Nyan and Vei

>>33767004
nope
nyanners is dating a literal who who wont be able to pad out her numbers in order to hide her recline
vei is dating soda

>>33765927
Ludwig is trying his best and happy with the move, Susan actually care to the point she decided to join Ludwig talkshow.
Also said he felt an accomplishment as content creator and closer to someone like Mr.Beast or Markiplier now than her old cliques on twitch like xQc, Hasan, Mizkief in terms of content

>>33766889
>Vei
>>33766534
Huh, what a coincidence. Can we just get this sort of drama in Youtube already? Doesn't even have to be HoloEN, having NijiENs do this would be fun for numbers.

>>33764916
This dude is a 3view isn't he?
Can't wait for him to hit 100k CCV somehow.

>>33767151
I think theyre gonna give it to Kson first and then Nazuna next year.

>>33767452
what the fuck, based vwhorejo

>>33767485
They need to reel Nazuna in especially with the recent twitch split thing and her grievance over not enjoying streaming there as much. She will get it

>>33767585
I don't think Twitch is ever going to acknowledge a Japanese-speaking vtuber, the existing cliques would throw too much of a fit. They don't have a Twitch Japan to do it either unlike how Youtube lets Youtube Japan do all the vtuber groundwork (mainly shilling niji).

>>33767585
>Nazuna enjoy YouTube more than twitch
Is this a rrat or you have timestamp?

> Art sucks
> Luxiem favoritism
> KR Taisho autism
This merch is getting attacked from multiple angles lol

Millie raid Maria
I wonder if both Aia and Scarle told NijiEN not to raid them

https://youtu.be/YSnUsPQ_uqc
Kobo is reclining, and this is the proof

>>33767701

>>33767724
>art sucks
>JP favoritism
Taisho stuff aside it's not like the same thing doesn't happen with hololive...

>>33767785

>>33767724
>Help... Noctyx... please....
kek

>>33766204
Vspo's event numbers have been inclining but I'm not sure how sumisu's personal popularity is right now. I don't think she can get the big numbers Nose or Ema got.

>>33767724
>especially for koreans
>not a korean

Keep milking them IRyS!!!

>>33766760
this is why bringing fucking management into it was a retarded move.

>>33767785
To think this shitter used to have genmates with someone like Pekora and Marine is baffling

>>33766368
The only thing I remember is that I want to fuck lui until my dick falls off

>>33767908
can we stop posting midget numbers?

>>33767848
LMAO

>>33767933
She was a burden mentally.

>>33767724
Help Noxtys, help Fungus... please

>>33767812
Any week now HoloX will get their next outfits announced and I'm just wondering if HoloEN management will do any PR management at all to prevent CouncilRyS fans crying favoritism.

>>33767877
Korean fans are in the quote retweets

>>33767724
Nice family household

3 and a half hour amelia karaoke.

>>33767724
Noctyx having the Tempus homobeggars kek. Watch them first and support them sisters instead of virtue signaling on twitter. You're supporting the wrong company if you want equal treatment

>>33768045

>>33767812
There's no gen favoritism though?
EN branch is split apart across the world, but they all get screwed over equally.
And there's no branch favoritism in JP either, Aki, Roboco, Choco etc. are promoted as much as the big hitters.

>>33767980
And performance wise as well. Don't forget that paid Sankisei live

>>33767915
Kronii's complete lack of self awareness of the mind of audience she ended up cultivating is really at the root of the current issue. Like, you wouldn't see Kanata or Lamy having these kinds of issues, because they're well aware of the kind of corr audience they have. Instead, here you have a woman who bumbled herself into the most schizo gachikoi audience in all of EN and wasn't even aware of what she had done until the other council members brought it up.

>>33768129
I honestly wish there was. Its unfair that Pekora who is doing most of the heavy work has to be equal with shitters like Roboco, Choco, Mel etc.

>>33768129
Branch favoritism is just as bad as far as holo fans are concerned, go ask Council/IRyS fans what they think.

>>33767724
IT'S ALL OUT CULTURE WAR

>>33767877
whats the equivalent of gook last samurais/kensama?

IRyS finally got a full on homobeggar SC and she said if you want to watch those kinds of collabs there are other members to watch and she just wants to chil

>>33767812
Everyone gets equal opportunity sister. Look at Pacific League, holoERROR and Pacific Racing to name a few. Even holoID got a spot to AmongUS instead of Miko of all people

>>33768045
Are you sure that's a fan and not just a gook sperging. Niji is pretty irrelevant in Korea. specially after they genocided their failed gook branch.

>>33768220
when council provides something besides okay CCV then we can talk

>>33768129
Explain HoloX vs Council & Hope then. Or how Ina & Gura are used as props to promote Chloe replacing them in an Umisea song.

>>33767933
Wasn't she pretty big even among the giant that is sankisei? I remember she was above noel and flare. What happened?

IRyS said fuck off to Homobeggars

>>33768220
Myth are treated equally as shit as councilrys

CHADcast corruption fetishists BTFO

>>33768017
CouncilRyS should be graduated, their fans are too big of a liability

>>33768177
Her gachikois aren't that powerful. IRyS beats her in superchats and she is barely above even Fauna and Bae since that initial rush she got with her superchat opening.

>>33768260
Well, as if it wasn't clear enough to begin with, IRyS firmly and gently tells em to go pound sand.

>>33768017
Its better for councilrys to not get new outfits, saves them from the embarrassment of getting humiliated by obsydia.

>>33768260
Timestamp? I'm watching the stream but I must have been zoning out when that happened. I didn't catch it.

This is my daughter. She had turned 18 this year and I will entrust her to you now. Her mother, pekora, had taught all the things she need to know so I hope you could take care of her now.

>>33768386
>and she is barely above even Fauna and Bae
You're not fucking fooling anyone. You can literally get this info. She makes more money than Bae and Fauna by a country mile, she just doesn't stream enough.

>>33768386
It's not MONEY I'm talking about, I'm talking how CRAZY they are.

>>33768177
You have people defending the argument that holos don't need to study the company and the fanbase they're applying for, it's no surprise she stumbled right into it. Baelz being an actual fan knew how to balance things right from the start.

>>33768386
She's about on par with IRyS while putting a lot less effort into farming them

>>33768276
what did she answer?

>>33768366
I think you were supposed to be quoting there but qrd?

>>33768260
>>33768276
oof guy didnt do opsec reps.
travelled from oakland to longbeach recently interesting also wonder what they were doing stopping in seal beach

>>33768386
>Barely above fauna and bae
kek

>>33768276
>>33768260

>>33768495
>there are other members who does other things if you want

>>33768352
Timestamp, I was listening to Aki's karaoke rumao

>>33768357
>branch favoritism
Last I checked Myth and Council were in the same branch.

>>33768272
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1572767638660554754/retweets/with_comments
There's a lot of KRs in the Quote Retweets with NijiJP or NijiEN pics, so some KR fans are definitely mixed in.

Also some dude quoted Nijisanji's derivative works guidelines lmao.

For that one anon
https://youtube.com/channel/UCSUZugdxy9Wcrkp781cFt1w
Haruka Onomachi has a new channel just for ASMR streams.

Seems like a lot will be doing this, so they don't endangere their main channel with YT's new policies.

>>33768541
daaamn thats rude what a bitch

>>33768541
I kneel IRyS

Trading kronii for iryss, who'd have thought
Mori would like to have a word I guess

>>33768541
Holy burn... But yeah that sc was kinda disrespectful

>>33768450
She finally ended her stream
https://youtu.be/_YkGFsyNYms?t=19772
It was funny because I didn't see the SC but I knew what it was the moment she didn't even fucking say "Holostars"

>>33768541
BASED
>BASED
BASED
>BASED

>>33768524
why is he scing in ca$ if he's in california?

>>33768541
I fucking kneel irys

>>33768641
And this is why she'll never get good numbers.

>>33768524
We know He's a shit stirrer but is he a tempus faggot or a niji falseflagger which is worse?

>>33768270
I will forever salty that they choose some irrelevant bitch over micomet

>>33768656
same reason why he's speaking in english even though he's malaysian

Anyone knows if mumei ever read the sc on her autism?

Since this thread likes to talk about Twitch so much when is Hasan vs Sam Hyde match happening?

>>33768585
Fucking dead

>>33768451
>18
I don't believe you.
Unless it's 18 years since she first had sex.

>>33768712
tempuss fag

>>33768720
searystoscrats...

>>33768475
Have you been to /HiRyS/? Those fuckers are crazy too. Just because IRyS isn't as entangled in drama as Kronii is doesn't mean that her fanbase isn't schizo as well.

Irys on if she will collab with homos
>playing games with different people is fun
what did she mean by this?

>>33768270
>lists a bunch of sponsorships only open to JP
I'll give you Among Us but that's only because the Among Us devs pushed for it, Cover would've just monopolized it for the JP branch if they didn't.

>>33768705
Axel status?

>>33768774
She's actually 18 years old. I've brought her up for that long. I'm a house husband anyway.

>>33768541
I fucking kneel

>>33768260
>Kiara and IRyS are the dumbest ENs
>Had the best responses to homobeggars
How

>>33768715
Same desu. Miko has such a cute design over that dumb tree rat

>>33768278
Council sells out omocat merch. When was the last time any JP sold out omocat merch or were popular enough to get omocat merch in the first place?

No one would have wanted to collab with Irys anyway

>>33768882
SOUR GRAPES LMAO

>>33768656
nta cross border travel maybe? i havent switched my yt sc from euro to cannuck.

>>33768799
come home kronies, come home..

>>33768802
It was just a filler phrase while she collected her thoughts.

>>33768882
ඞ

>>33768805
Wow an insider!!!

>>33768867
>best responses
Only if you're a unicorn falling for them saying what they think you want to hear.

>>33768541
based

Hololive
>22) ??
>23) ??
>24) Marine Chloe clubhouse 51

Nijisanji
>22) Naruse Naru 3D debut
>23) Tsukino Mito return stream
>24) Tsukino Mito birthday

3 easy niji golds

>branch favoritism
>2 managers per talent
>debut gen in a group of 5 which is the same size as the main JP branch instead of the usual 3 per gen of other branch(ID, ex-CN)
>has an official JP x EN group like UMISEA while ID has none
>included in various promotion
>the only life sized statue on hololive expo was Gura

>>33768799
Yes, but they tend to not bleed the fuck out into the rest of the wider ENsphere and mostly contain themselves, unlike kronies who were fucking terrible at that sort of thing, probably on account of many of them being ex-deadbeats.

>>33768867
Fathers.

>>33768541
fkn based, beggars deserve the rope
t.homo watcher

>>33768882
Cope

>>33768641
>Will you be collabing with [Holostars]?
>Honestly... I just want to chill... *laughs*... I just want to chill... and... like... wait a sec... And you guys know I mainly don't initiate collabs that often. I... yeah... I don't really initiate collabs that often so usually it would mainly be something initiated by other people and whatnot.
>But I do think playing games with other people is definitely fun. I love playing games with my uh... you know uh... HoloEN members. Uhm... and mainly people I'm used to talking to, it's something I keep as a standard. So yeah hope you'll be satisfied with that. If not, then you know, there's of course other members who do different things. I just want to chill *laughs*.
Here's the transcript for the threadreaders.

>>33768867
Being aware of what your fanbases want and that being in alignment with how you want to approach collabs helps. IRyS loves traps and doesn't give two shits about what twitter says anyways, so why should she care what a bunch of twittertroons and beggers want?

>>33768935
does it realy matters when the month is already over tho?

How does ShitRyS get anyone to simp for her with that ugly model, boring personality and failed singing career?

>>33768998
she sounds uncomfortable as fuck
thanks kronii

>>33768867
They have to stream for 7 hours to barely get 200k yen in SCs of course they don't want to filter any of that away

>>33768998
To the catalog!

>>33768954
>the only life sized statue on hololive expo was Gura
Marine was there the previous year

>>33768998
so uh, are the homobeggars going to stop with Irys now? or have the only be invigorated by recent events

>>33768954
>JP management does everything to leech off the most successful branch while actually giving them far less opportunities than JP

>>33767724
So, some anons last few thread suggesting Ex-KR idols for StarEN 2 ...
Kindly hope you look at this and reconsider your pick

>>33768954
The market differences are what drive the sponsorships. holoEn has to compete against all of the Twitch streamers, whereas HoloJp is in a position where they and Niji are the top streaming corpos and both have proven themselves to be sponsor-friendly.

>>33769106
>so uh, are the homobeggars going to stop with Irys now?
Le fucking mao
If they didn't stop wtih Kiara they're not going to stop with IRyS. They're not going to stop until they get a definitive answer because they're all cunts

>>33769044
While also making above $1k++ in their music in that same amount of time

>>33769106
> homobeggars
> ever stopping

>>33769106
They won't SC again but you'll see more posts subtly bagging on IRyS from now on in Twitter and Reddit, or including her lack of stars collabs into the checklist of things management have been preventing her from doing.

>>33769106
They never stop Anon. The best the girls can do is state their stance once and ingore the rest of the garbage that comes their way.

>33767812
>He said this RIGHT AFTER ID 3D IN JAPAN

>>33769148
>in their music
what

>>33768976
Kiara doesn't have a dad, or at least not one that was in her life enough for it to matter.

>>33769106
they'll never fucking stop, they're annoying as shit

>>33769110
lol
lmao even

>>33769168
>I DON'T WANT TO WATCH STARS
Keep saying that when Stars viewership is close to that of Fauna, IRyS and Haachama now.

>>33769200
I can be her daddy

>>33768954
>and yet ID had their 3D in japan while EN had to make due with ame shitty studio.

>>33769227
are the viewers for the solo streams in the room with us right now

>>33769136
At this point, it won't be long for sponsors to get HoloEN for sponsorships but even then, these retards are picky about free money. Even Ludwig in his video says he doesn't want to sell out as much but could make half the money to cover the gambling debt slicker made to the victims.

How did the recent ID1 merch sell?

>>33769106
The guy has been superchatting IRyS for months, why does it matter if he asks a question like that? There's no problem with her giving a straight answer like she or the other members did

>>33769188
You do know ID was supposed to have their 3D before gen 5 and gen 6, right? Instead they got pushed back and gen 5 got prioritized instead despite turning out to be failures.

>>33769190
Music are passive incomes, anon

>holos that accept male collab(kroni)
>15k ccv
>holos that reject male collab(kiara,irys)
>5k ccv
You said people prefer CGDCT, why aren't they getting better view?
>b-but gura
50% of chumbud watched kroni vesper collab
Checkmate, unicorn

>>33769227
Did you watch Axel? help him get 2k before you start barking here, you mongrel

>>33769227
>Keep saying that when Stars viewership is close to that of Fauna, IRyS and Haachama now.
????????????????????????????????????????????????
It took a 3 man collab and a funnel from a 16k. Look at the rest of the fucking solo streams

>>33769300
You think IRyS makes 1k with her music in a day? lol

>>33769279
yeah i dont care he asked but she answered mostly clear enough for anyone who can read the air in the room. so will he not ask something that retarded again is what im asking now

Ive been checking the profile of the people who were complaining about luxiem and most of them are also kpop fags.
Arent they the worse kind of people youd want to offend?

>>33769324
>so will he not ask something that retarded again is what im asking now
Oh, probably not. Just like I hope that faggot homobeggar in Fauna's chat got the memo when she fucking ignored the end of his rainbow

>>33769227
Axel just streamed in NA primetime to 1.5k viewers rn.

im guessing they won't stop until they get direct answers from ina and mumei

>>33769261
Well yes, shitty sponsors like gambling and RAID:SHADOW LEGENDS are pretty much available to everyone with some of them paying pretty well, but you inevitably tarnish your brand of you do them.

>>33769301
>3 homos couldnt beat Fauna even with funnel from kroniiwhoring
Just enjoy your stuff and stop homobegging

>>33769035
It doesn't, but the nijichink needs to cope.

>>33769317
Noir got raided and Magni's is a Z peak btw.

>>33768935
mito graduation soon... no...

>>33768976
>kiara
>father
LMAO anon youre retarded
her entire internet presence screams
>I have daddy issues

>>33769382
Apex debuff vs. Chilla buff

>>33769301
>t.retard who doesn't understand the chatter overlap analysis and how it's affected by big events

>>33768935
19-2

>>33769395
Eh, it was close enough.
But this is still sad coming off the schizofest that was that Deltarune shit

>>33769437
>chilli buff
>overlapped by Kronii

>>33769033
Enna....

>>33769339
Anon, it's not even about being kpopfags or not, the tweet already reached koreans that don't even watch chuubas but will latch on any KR/JP drama. This is being spammed like hell now

>>33769488
is way cuter

but Iluna was blowing up in Korea, nijisisters told me, why dont Iluna fans stick up for the Luxiem debacle?

>>33769488
C u c k

I don't get it
>homowatchers hate homobeggers
>unicorns hate homobeggers
what gives? where do those people even come from? are they just another form of nijifags that wants people to slowly transition to watching nijien?

>>33769322
What's your estimation?

>>33769502
why niji can't pass one day without some yab

>>33769502
KR really has schizos the combination of the worst chink and jap thanks to hell joseon
HoloKR doesn't seem that worth now

>>33769502
At least the nationalist Koreans will fuck off after a week of being angry. If NijiEN management doesn't fuck up by saying something stupid.

>>33769567
i dont get why people think alienating fans who just want to watch girls would somehow make nijis grow, what is your logic?

>>33768720
You know ... maybe rangeban all of SEA is not a bad ideal afterall
t.SEA

>>33769136
HoloEN is not competing with twitch retard. Is this the new COPE for holoEN? Twitch viewers will rarely watch YT streamer.

>>33768820
Ended stream to listen to Nodoka twitter space

>>33769502
Kek. Niji should pray that a chinese otakmori will not bring the wolf warriors into the mix

>>33769617
I'm talking about the homobeggers. apparently, no one likes them

>>33769636
Listening to Nodoka a few times, im starting to believe shes in her late 30s

>>33769626
anon the guy is malaysian but he's in NA as far as i can tell. dont know the reason why he's using cannuck currency though maybe he travelled and stayed there recently.

>>33769567
I think it's just people that are genuinely curious, but can't read the room.

For Kronii, the one time she was first asked about Vesper, it was a schizo from /inf/ that announced he was going to do it, and made a fresh account for it. Kronii didn't realize the comment was trying to stir drama and answered in earnest though.

>>33769676
God, have mercy on my dick

>>33769502
Oh shit, just needs the chinks to use it as ammo as well

>>33769668
>Beggars
Theres your answer...

>>33769668
If you don't care about the divide between Holo and Stars, it's not different than asking for a collab with one of the girls

>>33768276
>>33768260
>>33768204
>>33769111
the zangs are still trying to shit hololive...

>>33769583
You have to get this many plays to make $1000 on these services. But also remember that IRyS doesn't get her entire cut, she gets a small portion (because Cover funds all of her music and MVs). We don't know exactly how small though, that I know of.

>>33769666
The Chinese won't be mad about Taisho era Japan. WW2 IJA military outfits, on the other hand... well, it'd be funny if the fans begging for Noctyx outfits got that for their costumes.

>>33769602
I trust why Yagoo is apprehensive now. He did know what exactly happened in Chinkland

>>33768867
>Mori gave the better response, despite still collabing with them
There, I said it

>>33769567
entitlement culture pure and simple

doesn't matter what side, nationality, etc etc you come from, the number of people who feel entitled to have things their way OR ELSE has risen

honestly people do just need to chill

>>33769502
Lucky for them niji is irrelevant in korea.

>>33768792
then take it to /mans/

>>33769635
Anon, it's a matter of numbers and where the advertisers will go for livestream sponsorships, and the numbers for livestreams still favor Twitch in EN.

>>33769502
I can bring this news to lotus Army or wolf warrior on bilibili, should I or not?

>>33769502
Gooks are subhumans. Not even the chinks are this butthurt about Japan. Riku did right by exterminating the KR branch and firing all gooks that can't speak a second language.

>>33769739
huh interesting there was no indication that he was a bug in his other profiles

>>33769874
You do realize that multiple people could have used that nickname online, right?

>>33769874
Or he could just be Taiwanese.

>>33769739
>A fucking zhang

Reflect killer
https://youtu.be/mVGVYd1B8Oc