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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>52,693: Fubuki (Hololive)>43,222: Pekora (Hololive)>32,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>27,762: Subaru (Hololive)>23,194: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>21,741: Korone (Hololive)>20,649: Haachama (Hololive)>20,599: Tachibana (VSPO)>18,236: Koyori (Hololive)>16,715: Lui (Hololive)>15,807: Salome (Nijisanji)>15,380: Koyori (Hololive)>14,503: Okayu (Hololive)>14,488: Ame (Hololive)>13,032: Flare (Hololive)>12,975: GatchmanV (Indie)>12,340: Mysta (Nijisanji)>12,316: Lui (Hololive)>12,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>11,230: Shiina (Nijisanji)>11,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>10,348: Runa (VSPO)>10,032: Luna (Hololive)>10,020: Tamaki (NoriPro)
What did we learn in the last thread?
>>33743051>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day218) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order>PER COMPANY19x: Hololive2x Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora3x: Miko2x: Ayame, Marine1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY170x: Hololive84x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER35x: Pekora17x: Miko16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>JP declining>EN declining>ID declining>Hololive declining>Nijisanji declining>Vshojo declining>Holostars declining>Indies declining>Mini Corpos declining>Pippa incliningThis is what I've gathered from this thread, if taken at face value.
We love Gura here, there's no room to debate this.
>>33743006Why Flare?
marine > pekora
>>33743052Salome reclined but we already knew that
Tempus was a mistake
>>33743052Ame x Regis x Kronii threesome
/news/ roundup for 21-09-2022 >>33709109Recent clip numbers>>33699829>>33699859>>33700466>>33700501
>>33743052/#/ is unusable when drama tourists raid the thread
>>33743051>>33743073
>>33743052 /#/ is declining
>>33743085This is true except for the "JP declining" part.
I'm watching Destiny's stream and another big youtuber is there (someordinarygamer aka muta) and they said that Youtube is changing the revenue for youtube shorts to pay out WAY more than what they're doing now.I wonder if any vtubers will try to approach it after that happens. A quick buck is a quick buck
>>33743160Hey man
No one from holoen will joke about graduation
>>33743006Finally, Mori can start getting fully mogged by every numerical metric from the HoloJPs, instead of just mostly mogged.
>>33743085>JP decliningAnon? Did you not see the 90k FGO stream?
>>33743052People want to have sex in the numbers thread.
>solo stream get shit number>collabs with girl get shit number>collabs with male get good numberFrequent collabs tend to lead to the above result but we will have to seeIf it really turns out like above then it means the Nijification has completedBased on the what we know about the trend in nijisanji, we can expect off collabs next
>>33743052that apparently 13,678 is bad now?
>>33743051>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY168x: Hololive85x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte4x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER34x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>
/#/ is plateauing
>>33743085>JP decliningENsharts wish this be the case.
>>33743178NijiEN already spams shorts and HoloEN's official channel is trying (and not really succeeding) in doing in the same.Honestly, it's easy content to make and has arguably higher virality potential than clips so more people should try it.
>>33743217In 2021 that would've been bigger than Coco's graduation.
>>33743237And 16k is also terrible somehow
September eventsHololive16) Subaru anniversary, Moona 3D debut17) Iofi 3D debut18) Risu 3D debut, Gura 3D live20) HoloID mini 3D liveNijisanji16) Kuzuhacup17) Kuzuhacup18) CRcup (Kuzuha)28) Kuzuhaday30) Nijifes fantasia
>>33743178aogiri high school https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPLeqi7rIqS9uY4_TrSUOMg
>>33743351No more event's from holo then?
>shitpost that targets everyone in Vtubing>the only people who get mad about it are people defending JPWhy is this
>>33743085>JP decliningJP is stronger than ever. It's going to incline even more with the flood of EN refugees getting away now that their branch is officially #woke
>>33743228Looks like HoloEN audience prefer Nijisanji style, I think they gonna do off-collab in the next few months.
>gura after ame slapped her in the faceGura is so scared of ame she refuses to play rust once again
>>33743228Maybe blue boy can fuck Kronii's depression away
>>33743407Because is the only thing factually wrong, retard.
>>33742896says akua, mea, yumeoi kakeru, kanda soichi, and belmond on there
>>33743249Truly vile bevahior playing with someone's feelings.
>>33743329Unless Kronii got like 40k on that stream, they would've stuck to the script that drama buff should've turbobuffed it.No number would've satisfied them, ignoring that 16k + 7k at 4pm PST is really high for HoloEN.
bots
>>33743052numbers don't actually matter, because people have narratives first and then insist that the numbers support it no matter what
>>33743521https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE
selamat pagi and magandang umaga
>>33743430Nothingburger btw.
>>33743407JP fags have always been like this.
>>33743464Aqua is the only buff. Also kys crossposter
>>33743085Pippa inclining thanks to furry Romanian. Also try watch some Kawaii, they are now low 3view.
>>33743546he's broken the code, now you can graduate from this thread
>>33743237>that apparently 13,678 is bad now?Please don't pretend she wasn't pulling 30k streams like a month or two ago
>>33737524Wait Gura has 25k member?
>>33743558100,000 more and it will reach 3M...
>ENsharts have no counter-arguments and have resort to baitWhy are they always like this?
how am I still getting bites on a clear ritualpost? Will tourists respond to 'hey man' too now?
>>33743237Not a Salome doomposter that's using her debut week numbers, but 13k is one of her weakest performances and the trend of decline is very notable. It's not a bad number in isolation, but for Salome, it's definitely not good. Like shit, Gura won't be getting 13k on TLoU.
>>33743653Anon?
>>33743653Abayo..
>>33743580I know it's a minority of them, but it's still always funny how they can't even take being part of a joke that's about literally everyone
>>33743653based
>>33743653
>>33743653Me on the right
>>33743178it's basically the music labels moving off tiktok to ytthe new shorts monetization is designed by the the music label. they get first dips of revenue from shorts in exchange for creators having similar pop-music library like on tiktok to use for making shorts. it's there to promote pop-music just like how they used to pay tiktok to get new releases go viral on there.
>>33743590My dragon wife is almost 5k, I'm happy for her.
>>33743432>19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order>20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order>21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand OrderCan we agree on removing FGO from tally? They are more cheat than Rust at prime month, it makes the race less interesting
>>33743052
>>33743752I've seen one of her streams.She's good at singing while playing piano
Time for some numbershttps://youtu.be/4WCUqrsTcHM?t=3562How much fanart will we get of Kronii fucking her dog after this?
>I was only pretending to be retarded, I swear guysENkeks, everyone.
thanks for all the /#/ anons who helped Otsuka get to 6k after a 7 hour endurance stream yesterday
>>33743866Your shitposts are weak, but your persistence is certainly striking.
>>33743769Trade offer:>Niji remove koshien>Holo remove fgodeal?
>>33743866anon please get some help
Numbers if they collab?
>>33743407>be wrong>but why are you guys telling me I'm wrongKek
>>33743937Based
>>33743752My horsewife has no singing talent but at least she works hard
>>33743856Oh you almost got me to click it and give it a view, you sneaky sod
>>33743827This used to work way better when Stars struggled to get to 1k.Would it take someone from StarsEN to overtake someone in HoloEN for you to admit that some people watch them?
>>33743937You really want to see this through don't you?
>>33743953It was wrong for lots of other people, but you don't see them bitching about it, huh
>>3374393916,478
>>33743939wrong thread homobeggar
>>33743856Already 5 at least from last /infi/
>>33743752>Orange girl and green fauna are the runts of the genI've seen this before
>>33743939God why are they both so fucking hot, on the surface they don't seem to have a lot of chemistry but who knows, maybe she'll pull a kronii two face
>>33744011go back to hlgg
>>33738425Said the one making a low quality post.>>33738435Did you not get what I'm said?>>33738535Are you too? >>33738631And? Most phones nowadays are more powerful and useful than computers that are literal waste of space for what they offer instead being small like phones.>>33738655You are too dumb to understand that there is nothing to worry you schizophrenic schizo, it's only you nijifags shitposting her because she's too fragile and you want to cancel hololive.>>33738732>Subaru>Tourist centralroru rumaoExplain that 20k+ people watching her zatsudan every Saturday's morning? Or her 15k+ watchalongs? Meanwhile Miko's peak at 5k on unculled Twitch. Subaru fanbase is faithful and they'll watch every thing she does and Subaru is the Queen of Story Games and on that timelost.>>33738957You're a sad nijifag.
>>33743998don't worry, if the blue faggot is any indication, they're gonna match their senpais soon
>>33744040go back to twitter
fuck the ajnnies
How much did kronii got so called drama buff?
>>33743752wasn't expecting the westaboo indo to have the highest subs of the gen.
>>33744011Not begging if they both love each other, they a karaoke duet
>>33743752Damn the subcount exactly reflects my impression of them. I like Oceane and Miryu the most.
>>33744036Why do you guys keep saying Fauna is the runt
>>33744063Your dedication is appreciated
>>33744044holy shit unironically kys
>>33744044kys crossposter
>>33744036Funny thing is that the orange one gets the most donations
>>33744090kys homobeggar
>when you peak in the waiting roomTourists doko?
>>33744063at least there are genitals this time around, abayo for just titty is weaksauce
>>33744053Seeing as Regis is still getting 4views with ep 7 of Zelda and Gungeon, I wouldn't bet on it.
It's unironically over for unicorn culture. Now that the management and talent themselves saw this big number, they gonna double down on this path>b-but the niji example, isn't it a failure?Hard to say, the number, boost and positivity of it are all very visible while the negative are very subtle and difficult to prove as they could be attributed to a variety of reasons and factors. This place might be the only place that contemplate this possibility.Do you think they will listen to some shitposter on an anonymous board more than the ten of thousand of twitter user? You can't even produce concrete evidence for it
>>33744036I feel like the term "runt" is literally meaningless when the sum total of all of their subscribers is literally a margin of error on a Holo or Niji's sub numbers. that could be wiped out by Susan on accident without anyone really noticing.
>>33744062this is numbers thread holokekif your feeling is so fragile, you're in the wrong thread
>>33744038I mean, teacucks are drawn to abusive relationship, theyll love getting cucked ruru
>>33744168wrong thread and wrong life homobeggar
everyone talks about cultivating a good audience and how the kroniies are all schizos but likehow do you cultivate a good audience of schizos, like haatons, and not a schizo audience of schizos, like everyone else?
>>33744143>this big number>15k
>>33744119Gunpla autists have money to spare
>>33744044>Or her 15k+ watchalongs?The 15k during watchalongs are clearly tourists retardchama. That's not a slight on Subaru, she's made a name for herself as a reaction based vtuber, people tune in to see her reactions.>Meanwhile Miko's peak at 5k on unculled TwitchBecause she's not getting tourists like Subaru does...How do you look at the data and come to the exact opposite conclusion of where it points? Subaru getting 15k for Code Geass doesn't show that her fans are more dedicated it shows she gets a lot of crossover from non-vtubing audiences who like to see normie reactions to otaku stuff.
>>33744140>h-he still getting 4 views after a f-funnelholy shit lmao
>>33744126Reddit only shows up for the mixed collab
>>33743642Probably more. that’s only chatting on that video member.
>>33744174After today I am convinced that Kronies are similar to teamates. Kronii is insufferable.
>>33744053Tempus is unironically cockroaches. Always reaching 4 view
SOWho should I blame for the state of this thread rn?
>>33744243>dumbass doesn't know Regis always stars first and almost never gets funnelsAt least check on vrabi before posting something retarded.
>>33744215haatons aren't schizos anon
>>33743909>>33743932Don't start baiting If you can't handle it retards, maybe look into a mirror before calling out everyone you don't agree with as shitposting.>>33743085
>>33744215Literally impossible, never gonna happen. Unless you craft the perfect persona but that's not fun
>>33744268kronii is mori/ame tier for me nowit's crazy how im just fine with bae despite her wanting to fuck ojisans
>>33744268Kronii is at least kind and considerate with kroniies. Ame is toxic as fuck
>>33744293everyone
>>33744215They're just more well-behaved because Haachama does a lot of fan-submission stuff, otherwise they're just as nuts as every other schizo group if left alone for too long.
>>33744044meds now
>>33743939i cum buckets imagining regis putting his entire 10 inch cock on ame's ass, making her unable to walk for days
>>33744293From glances, /hlgg/ enjoyed the collab and it's been well received by just about everywhere except /#/ for whatever reason and /infinity/Really makes you think
>>33743052Nothing
>>33744293SoCal
>>33744215>how do you cultivate a good audience of schizosStep One: Have decent content to attract decent people (not in terms of morals, in terms of quality)Step Two: Have a set of standards that you adhere to and enforce in your audience to filter out the shit ones.Step Three: Never admit weakness. Insane Schizophrenics feast on weakness. If you give them weakness, they go bad like fruit in the sun.Step Four: Reward good Schizos with attention to cultivate that kind of person in your fanbase.Step Five: Always Double Down.
>>33744143Oh shit twitter likes!
>>33744402I ship, they are meant to be
>>33743642No, that's 25k MEMBER MESSAGES. There's 4k members who messaged throughout that Live though.
>twitter likesholoen unironically turning into nijien holy shit
>male collab is a debuffclearly not, and it has been proven again and againget the rope holokek
>>33744318Again, weak shitpost game, but hardcore persistence.
>>33744040/hlgg/hlgg is either being raided or it's already homobeggar central
So how NIJI EN doing today?
>>33744406What, I check /infi/ and it's alright, bestiality not withstanding
>>33744406The fact that people were doomposting a 16k non-Gura stream hours before NA primetime should be a clear sign that the thread was overtaken by dramaniggers and tourists.
>>33744406Yea, 'cause we're getting raided by a bunch of shitposting faggots and samefagging idiots. It was fine, a bit cringe, but otherwise 'fine'.
>>33744483Speedrun from "Cringe + L + ratio parasocial fucks" to becoming a 3 view like Finana when
>>33744515who?
>>33744516Timesmut....
>>33744485holy seethe trannychama
>>33744007Please take your meds already.
>>33743249So Mumei and Bae's duet cover is doing better than Mori? Ame's half-joking King cover is doing better than Mori?You love to see it.
>>33744485>fauna higher than 3 homo combinedHontoni?
>Came back to Ina 8k drawing streamOh, wow what the fuck did you guys do? Is this shit actually happening? What is that like her 3rd or 2nd lowest drawing stream? Will everyone in holoEN gonna keep breaking their worst number record soon?
So the shitposting is almost certainly because both Global and Cripple Golds were utter stompfests this month, right?
>>33744215Kronii's audience is schizo because she gave her schizos special attention. If you ignore schizos and attention whores they will go away.
>>33744515Too weak, not worthy to discuss about 'em
>>33744215anon? have you not seen what haatons are like when haachama isn't around?
>>33744483Why are people even paying attention to that? Isn't Niji twitter enough to prove that twitter likes don't amount to viewers at all?
>>33744485AIIIIEEE MY PRIESTESS , MY GREEN WHORE! TASKETEEE
Number is king. Vesper/kronii collab gets good numbers = good collab.
>>33744600She started 1 hour earlier, i doubt it breaks 10k still
Reminder that the only people sperging out about this are nijiniggers feeling threatened that hololive is also better at them at doing fun male-female collabs and desperately wishing to reverse the trend.
>>33744628They were so close yesterday too but lost to a 4 min shitpost
How's Noctyx been doing lately, anyways?
>>33744628i think the domination drove away at least 1-2 niji "regulars" but the rest went stealth mode with culture war, EN v JP and other variations of branch v branchof course the resident shitposters love to trendhop so they're eating it up
>>33744707it's not like there's any people that actually just dislike coed surely
>>33744654As everyone remembers from the Febuary 24th Incident, Hololive is influenced entirely by twitter likes and opinions, which is why they hired Rushia back and apologized profusely.
>>33744654people scramble to use whatever they can to support their arguments anon, no matter how shameless it looks to everyone else
>>33744546so this is what it's come to, disliking this change after 2years of good times means you are a shitposting faggot
>>33744714reclining like most niji en
>>33743998>This used to work way better when Stars struggled to get to 1k.That was yesterday, anon.
>>33744678Yeah, that chart struggled to reach there. It's a negative sign if they keep breaking their worst record. Hopefully it doesn't happen more.
>>33744293Twitter burgers. Posting style is reflective of twitterfags, especially holokek spammer.
>>33744363>Kronii is at least kind and considerate with kroniiesReally? She backstabbed them multiple times over the last month. But I have no idea what happen behind the mengen though.
>HoloEN is dying>NijiEN is reclining>Vshojo is reclining>Twitch is dyingEN market...
I love that nijisis and schizos cheering for holostars now. Is this yagoo plan all along?
>>33744801didn't shien body most/all of nijiEN yesterday?
>>33744642Basically. Kronii cultivated her audience from the beginning to be like that; coddled them for a year and then all of a sudden told them to fuck off.
>>33744642i would feel bad for Gabe if he wasn't such a battered wife and retard schizo, at least alfred fucked off for good when he knew he was alone
>>33744485>only male collabs get you over 10kwhat a time for holoen
>>33744834More a case of "before all this nonsense started" than reflective of the current situation I assume?
>>33744868I meant, that Regis struggled to reach 1K. That was yesterday.
>>33744628I believe there's a few people who are genuinely seething that homo collabs are still getting good numbers, but HoloEN solo stream numbers are not looking so good in Sept. Fuels their obsession with the "culture war".
>>33744765nobody cares what you like or dislike, this is for numbers and the faggots that try to obfuscate them because they can’t handle what they’re seeing should get the rope
>>33744868Shien didn't body NijiEN.Artoria bodied them.
>>33744835If everything is reclining, then that means nobody is.
WTF happen to fauna's number? Some overlap her or something?
>>33744215Anon there's literally one thing you have to do and that is to treat your audience like a collective. Fauna does this, every single "Happy Birthday" she says "dear sapling" no matter how big or small the amount of money is given and the only time you hear her say a name is when she is reading out the name to say thank you in a superchat or if they're a known artist, which she then thanks them for their art. It's NOT difficult. Actively calling people out in chat by name not in superchat readings is something she would occasionally do which fucks things up.
>>33743769no
>33744707he's still trying
Spooky's Cumpscare Mansion...
>>33744406This place doomposted Gura's live while hlgg was creaming itself.That Nijifag who said this thread was full of antis was half right. But it's not just NijiEN antis, it's also full of HoloEN antis.
everything is going according great my fellow hololive fans, we just need a few more collabs and we'll be done with idol culture foreverhow about we get some collabs with the lazulight girls after
>>33744847it's obvious Tempus is being used by nijifags as a trojan horse, i feel bad for who just want to enjoy the boys
>>33745008I miss that nigga Vox Akuma like you wouldn't believe
>>33744923that's not what anon said though he was talking about how well recieved it was. the numbers weren't exactly mindblowing considering the amount of buffs
>>33745015>This place doomposted Gura's live while hlgg was creaming itself.hlgg very rarely dislike stream unless they're actually awful. They're not a meter for anything.
>>33744922>>33744801>1 out of 4 struggled to get 1k with ep 4 of a debuff game>All of them have 2k+ medians/averagesThe fact that he even got to 1k on that shit already means the meme has lost its luster.
>>33744765Disliking change, /#/ really isn't the place to talk about that in the middle of the stream really. Not when there are so many damned tourists around.
>>33745072They're a meter for Hololive fans.
>>33745072Even when they're awful they won't dislike a stream and if you actually try to say your opinion they'll get mad and call you an anti.
>>33745015The live numbers were underwhelming
Holy fuck this is the lowest for Ame. Looks like the transition for more males is working well, nice job
>>33744961She was overlapped by the Kronii and Noir collab, and by the time they finished she barely got the funnel before she finished the game.
What's the status for Pekora's monkey
>>33745141nigger it's her millionth mario
Did homobeggars just pulled the twitter likes card?
>>33744740Dislike it all you want, it's getting good numbers and the only reason anyone will shit on it here is because they're frightened that HoloEN is about to render Nijisanji irrelevant.
>>33745105so is /hlgg/ just reddit central?
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1572752750643154951HoloX Halloween merch
>>33745141the stream is lagging a lot
>>33745163Currently announcing the nuke war.
Jesus there are just so many similarities between early NijiJP and HoloEN. Remember Mito used to call out gachikois and chased them away. That dodgeball incident was really something else. I wonder if the history will repeat with HoloEN and how EN fags gonna react. Maybe HomostarEN will rising to become NijiJP of the West, maybe HoloEN girls is gonna fading away being 1k - 2k streamer except Gura being Sanbaka tier. No one can tell what will happen.
>>33745141it's the fucking cull you retard, it's also a debuff game you ape
>>33745071>amount of buffsSince when are homo collabs big buffs for HOLOLIVE? Fubuki and Matsuri have shown that male collabs are numbers poison for years.>inb4 drama buff when numbers are good for all the other collabs that weren't drama-fueled
>>33745164Her sc reading stream recently is all time lowest.
>>33745180always has been
>>33745184Iroha in a Millie Parfait outfit with Pomu color scheme>what did they mean by this?
>>33745180They're hobbyists on a hobby board in a thread dedicated to the thing they like, anon, what the fuck do you think it's gonna be.Shitting on a Holo stream in the Holo thread is like going to a Black Clover thread on /a/ and trying to shit on their manga, or any other manga in that case, really, point is, no one goes to a thread for something they don't like to talk about it.
>>33745184New song?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1yXDcuwzpY
>>33745148Jesas holoEN box is so small. 1 overlap and the usual number drops.
>>33745184ToT
>>3374393920k teacucks watching this
>>33745071Actual unicorn cope
so non male collab girls (except kiara, her timeslot is dogshit) would be overlapped by male approved collab girls for HoloEN going forward?
>>33744961Was wondering about this, usually I'd play it off as her playing a crappy horror game, but what if the Kronii drama made it so that the whole GFE scene started being seen as a negative thing in Hololive and people subconsciously start avoiding GFE Vtubers like Gura, Fauna and Mumei, after all their last solo streams didn't do what they would usually do in their regular numbers.Aka what If instead of Kronii reclining because her Unicorns left her, GFE Vtubers get affected more because regular viewers now see the whole GFE behavior as something that's looked down on the community and will avoid that.
>>33745164Funny how there's always an excuse, no wonder they never improve.
>>33745075>of a debuff gameAme streamed the game twice and got over 15K every single time, back when her median was much lower than that. Half life VR have showed no evidence of being a debuff game.
>>33745184
Why are all of the shitposts being made with the most fucking terrible english I've ever read
>>33745236trust Omega's plan, destroying cute girls because he can't be one
>>33745247A lot of it is novelty, but I wonder if it'll just end up replacing one segment of HoloEN's audience that would tune in to daily streams with a bunch of fucking event tourists. That would be grim and not worth the fucking tradeoff at all.
>>33744847the ones shitting on the stars are the nijis you retard
>>33745348>>33745353HOLY SEX (minus Lap)
>>33745141The way Ame streams is a debuff
>>33745243>Cull cope in September of 2022Rumao, there's people still clinging to that meme?
>>33745291Thats hot, we need more art. Maybe a threesome with Kronii too
>>33745279It's a pretty bad comparaison, you can go to the BC thread on /a/ and shit on ONE chapter, because it wasn't that good or something. You can do the same for a stream, maybe the stream wasn't that good, or anything. In /hlgg/ no matter the stream, no matter the content, you will find approval.
>>33745353Kek, Iroha = Millie + Pomu
>>33745236So are you telling me that holostar will get their own kuzuha and toya? That's good.
>>33745348Anyone planning to get a new outfit for Halloween?
>>33745418vox and selen are the only EN vtubers with confirmed culls, but you can safely extend it to all of nijiEN.
>>33745390faggot
>>33745348why is millie in holox now?
>>33745348Man they project manager is the best
>>33745364Take a wild guess.
It took a huge fucking drama for Tempiss to finally get some views. Every day I keep seeing them more as a literal tumor feeding off everything good from Hololive than actual cool guys trying their best-
>>33745348>>33745353lui-nee my beloved
>>33745184please give lui this outfit for real
>>33745247since twitter wants to own the unicorn boogeyman, let's hope they stick around for normal streams
>>33745280Back when Holo still collabed with indies.
>>33745364Maybe you should try to improve your grammar before posting.
>>33745489That's because you don't take your meds
>>33745489boomer vs zoomer basically had the same views and it wasn't drama related anon...
>>33745442It's easy to explain that when you consider the fact that, if your oshi is the one streaming, you just like seeing them on-screen at all. And global is the thread where people who love watching their oshi go to talk about them, for the majority of EN viewers and a decent chunk of JP/ID, too. So of course they're going to like it.
>>33745489PEKORA MONKEY PEKORA MONKEY YOU IS PEKORA MONKEY PEKORA NONKEYYUUYY
>>33745532>Twitter>Stick around long termAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHPlease, sir, may I have another joke?
>>33745236Honestly, the dodgeball offpako incident just showed how unhinged JP nijifags truly are. It makes no sense to me why you would attack a bunch of low view shitters because of Holo's meteoric rise. If anything, they should have asked for Riku's head on a pike
>>33745379Considering Mori, Kronii, and Ame killed their numbers all the time even before homos even debuted, I don't see how it's any worse than what they were already doing before.How many more collabs until the novelty excuse wears off? Their 5th one like Kobo and Regis?
So what would be the number for holo en girls that would convince you and say "okay the male debuff shit is happening". Sub 5k,sub 3k? Maybe sub 2k? Or will En people just start announcing another cull when that happens?,
>>33745184>7 elevensugoi
>>33745570If they had the same views, but also had a drama "buff," then that means either one of two things:>the drama buff made up for the drop that would've been there without it, comparativelyor>there was no drama buff, and all the shit around it from twitter and /vt/ and the like produced almost exactly no new viewers to "support" itEither one is interesting, from a purely number perspective.
>>33745657EN has a cull of 90% of their CCV, cope all you want
some of you should've been culled in the womb
>>33745339Please
>>33745633>Their 5th one like Kobo and RegisWhich got shit numbers, I'm not sure what's the argument is
>>33745478I don't want STD
>>33745657Lower than their normal numbers, for starters?
>>33745184SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
>>33745702You have a point.
>>33745710So Like Ina?
Bae>Kronii
>>33745184>>33745348
>>33745756oof
>>33745694Yeah so it took the 5th collab for numbers to start dropping off.Does this mean that every Tempus collab until the 5th+ one doesn't count because it's a novelty buff? You know novelty collab buffs usually last less than 2 streams right?
>>33745688You mean 6 gorillion percent anon.
>>33745353Lui my beloved
>>33745768Literally everyone in Hololive is better than Kronii at this point.
>>33745687Honestly, I prefer the second option, purely based on how inoffensive previous collabs have been ...
>>33745686theyve captured all major convenience store collabs lol >family mart>lawson>7-eleven <---- new
Is it feasible to groom a nijiEN yet, are they on that level, numberwise? Any of them?
>>33745353holy shit Chloe, my dikkkkkkkkk
>>33745856I mean you can always join the Finana grooming group.
>>33745756Ina hasn't even done any collabs so how would that even be a useful data point? And also vs her last drawing stream in like...May. No you would need a consistent series of comparable streams to show some change before and after collabs.
>>33745856Finana, Reimu, Aia, Scarle. Take your pick
>>33745856You have to be Discord mods to groom them anon, normal paypigs like Kronies won't cut it anymore
>>33745856Nah still too big
>>33745419We need more Tempiss x EN fanarts to piss the girls off so they'll stop collabing
>>33745856Why are you not a valoguard yet?
>>33745710Have you looked Mori's numbers lately
>>33745687Time slot for this collab was much shittier than the Bae x Vesper collab and the premise is also less interesting.This also peaked 2k higher with tougher overlap.
>>33745856 save Aia.you can fix her from the wokeness, saviorfag material
>>33745823>Literally everyone in Hololive is better than Kronii at this point.Pretty much. She lost the goodwill that allowed her to be a lazy slacker and now people are going to expect her to be entertaining to maintain her viewership and income...which she isn't going to be able to do.
>>33745792First, Kobo only did 3 one on one with Regis, not 5. And the numbers steadily dropped all the way through.12K> 7K8>5K3
Irys is an embarrassment to Hololive.
>>33745856Saviorfagging the ones who are likely to have a boyfriend, and fucked by a male niji. Save yourself anon
>>33745348Lui is sex as always and Iroha as Millie is funny overall Lui out sex them all.
>>33745984She's going to keep her income.>>33745989She's only an embarrassment because of her retarded "always late with eight minute load times"
>>33746003I didn't say "save." I said "groom."
>>33745988>Ignoring the game choice went from Valorant to fucking Phogs
>>33745617I think Iwanaga was still in charge of Nijisanji at that time, the guy who's now consulting for VShojoJP.
>>33745989Basically yeah
>>33745903Anon... dont say it loudly next time, get the hint lol
>>33746048And the two last streams are the same game, and the numbers are still dropping.
Not sure why you guys are still shitposting about a collab that lost 75% of its 10 minute peak in an hour- this graph is NijiEN tier
>>33745884>her last drawing stream in like...May1. Rarity should've helped it2. The only cases where Ina goes in this bad of a number in her drawing streams are either (a. very specific topic of drawing, and b. hard overlaps) The current stream doesn't fall in those two cases. 3. Also it's lack of collab doesn't mean she can't be affected by the shitshow, for all we know the HoloEN box shrinked its ass of because of this entire retarded drama.
>>33745856Not if you're fucking, no. You need a really small indie streamer who will be impressed with $50 every week. If you want to groom someone with an 800 viewer average you need to be dropping a lot of cash to get noticed. And then it'll only be low hanging fruit like Aia and maybe Reimu. Finana already has too many groomers to even get started with.
>>33746082
>>33745792>5thanon basically all of them but the first have been super mediocre
>>33746078The numbers are dropping because Kobo and Regis's viewers have gone back to school you idiot
>>33746044You cant groom a slut. Might as well go onlyfans
>collab with Shoto>still 2kliterally how??sure its not CN prime time, but surely uki can get 4k-5k or more at best with shoto buff
>>33746078>Expecting the same number on Kobo's channel and Regis's channel on part 2 of a collabYou're really fucking stupid, you know that?
>>33746082Yeah wow, I sure hope they thought that's worth it lol.
>>33745973Jesas, why isn't she fired yet?
>>33746131>You cant groom a slutFactually incorrectIf anything, it's easier to do that than to groom a normal girl
Who holds the global gold today?The Cunnysseur?
>>33745989You should watch and promote her instead of complaining here.
>>33746133They're watching Shoto's POV. Why would they care about Uki?
>>33746082Why is this the first time I've ever seen someone do this. It's so dumb yet so obviously useful for shitposting.
>>33746201Maybe a broken woman. Thats how I fucked a christian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-cz0tSbEjoMagni's about to dive bomb in another horrible section of the Internet again ...
>>33746245>useful for shitposting.Because it's not? No one gives a shit about a flipped graph anon
>>33746245The checkmark pattern makes it too obvious.
>>33746200>Who holds the global gold today?>The Cunnysseur?For now.
>>33746133He peaked 3.5k before the overlaps started, that's slightly above his solo Valorant (3.1k).
>>33746224>6kHonestly not too good for Shoto either.https://twitchtracker.com/shxtou/streams/41299051883
>>33746379Thanks, homie.
>>33745967On the other hand, this was on Kronii's channel and the other collab on Vesper's. I'm on the faction of thinking it's not a big deal in the long term, but guess we have to wait for more data.
>>33745988Kobo is reclining, you can't blame that on Regis
>>33746396Yeesh, that really isn't great at all. Vtubing really is fucking dying in EN isn't it.
>>33746092Kronii was on track to hit 20k for a glorified chatting stream, if anything the drama has increased the box
>>33746092>pick any random stream that got lower than it possibly could have and ascribe it to general miasma of people not liking male collabs>ignore everyone other stream, including actual male collabs, that might be inconvenient to your thesisThat's proper statistical analysis right there.
so is kronii drama is nothing burger or it will affect the branch as whole? im retarded
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572677922091311106https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572677922091311106https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572677922091311106Another song releaseWith "Someone"
>>33746431The collab itself? Eh Whatever. The retarded drama and shitflinging that's going on? Might have a long-term effect, but it'll be on the scale of month+ of data before we can even say if that's truly the case.
>>33746445Her recline began on homo collabs, unfortunately
Is it useful data to point out that, as someone who works in an elementary school in America, I've seen one person mention Nijisanji, but no people mention Hololive?The one person was an immigrant from South East Asia, I forget if it was Vietnam or Malaysia.
>>33746474It's not going to affect the branch much but it's going to take a couple of months to see how the homo collabs affect the pro-homo girls.
>>33746316What if you took a Vox stream and flipped it to make it look like it was increasing over time?
>>33746431As always, the game content will have a bigger effect on Kronii's numbers than the loss of unicorns/gain of homobeggars. If she streams minecraft or Rust next week, she's gonna get 12k+. If she revisits The Last Campfire, she'll be lucky to get 5k. This actually reminded me that Kronii said she would start Rust in S3 and it's already almost the end of the month.
>>33746508She talked about it last member stream, it's Ironmouse. Libra Hell or something like that.
>>33743053Another day, another HoloGoldFeels good to be a HoloChad
>>33746445She's becoming the kind of bratty that isn't endearing and just makes you want to stop watching her.
>>33746474>branch as a wholenothing is effected, aside from Cover insisting that the girls have "a right to shape their content how they desire," which is really phrased to give both groups in this retard fight a perceived victory without actually changing or doing anything.>Kroniiprobably won't be good for her long-term, but short term, hard to measure, and anyone trying to guess what the actual effect will be is pulling shit out of their asses, it's all guesswork.
>>33746474So far it looks like it's inclining the branch. HoloEN fans who were bored by seeing nothing but women and got lured away by NijiEN mixed gender collabs are coming home.
>>33746459only for select streams
Stfu about the collab. It's an underperformance compared to boomer vs zoomer. It was on Kronii's channel and it had drama buff and tons of greyname tourists. Wait until you see Kronii's solo numbers. I guarantee you she will recline from this just like Mori. The Mori recline didn't happen immediately either.
>>33746520Keep believing that unicorn, kobo reclined because people are already bored of her and her vulgar speak
>>33746613Really? I would've put my bet on the Watame song but I guess both people fit her description.
Many here expect a drop in numbers for Kronii after the whole fiasco, but has there been any event comparable to it which directly lead to the decline of a chuuba? Nyanners comes into mind with her boyfriend controversy but reportedly she streamed less after that, which is a huge factor for recline in Twitch. The "improve yourself" bit from Finana also comes into mind but there doesn't seem to be any significant change in viewership for her. So, what's the evidence that Kronii will further decline by the next few weeks?
>>33746519No it's not a useful data point but it's an interesting anecdote. Did they mention a specific streamer?
>>33746653anon?
>>33746664>comparing a 3 pm PST collab to a 7 pm PST collabngmi newfagnon
>>33746681She already made a song with Watame, no?
>>33746474Nothing burger. Just falseflag fanning the flame while adding oil at the same time.
>>33746519>Elementary schoolers watching NijisWho did they mention? Anyway, single data points aren't useful for analysis.
>>33746508Miguel gato
>>33746520Kobo literally just got 14k on RE8 11 days ago, but I guess she's dying because her zoomer fans don't want to watch her play Story of fucking Seasons.
>>33746698None, just unicorn wishful thinking.
>>33746664THE MORI RECLINE WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS PLAYING JRPGS YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER
>>33746474If Kronii makes an effort to change her image to something that can do well without parasocial fans, she'll do fine. If she continues to do the same shit, she's going to be fucked long-term.
>>33746078You mean the subsequent stream usually gets lower number than the first stream? Say it ain't so Are you gonna tell me Pekora second FGO stream CCV is approximately 9% lower than the first stream too?
>>33746474OG fans were bleeding anyways, this might give them an influx of new fansI mean look at NijiEN already out of content and declining slowly despite new members
>>33746665Look at this homobeggar ditching Kobo just to prove a point. Pathetic shameful display.
>>33746562so it's nothingburger, just usual business.most pro homo girls love to debuff themselves anyway (beside bae which seems to start caring for her content a bit)
>>33746664>if>whenWould it kill you oraclefags to wait for the data to come out and then make your conclusions from there
iluna is inclining
>>33746698There is none, people are just shitposting. However Kronii has already dropped off a lot over time by being erratic and generally mistreating her fanbase and extended casual audience well before this stuff.
>>33746711>>33746747No, just that they knew about them as "Minecraft."Kindergartner, and a special needs one at that, so I couldn't really get what they were going on about, other than "Minecraft." I think an errant MC stream just put their device into that algorithm and now they do the child thing of>click on literally any video in their recommended section again and again and againon those videos/streams.
>>33746664>The Mori recline didn't happen immediately either.Then she gets 10k again the next time she plays a buff game in a good timeslot... but sure take those Live A live numbers as her actual numbers.
Man these threads sure are talking about a lot of not-numbers lately, won't you people have the rest of the catalogue for that?
>>33746082huh what's going on? good streams should go up not down homobros how can we explain this
>>33746830Or the Minecraft drama was so huge NijiEN MC streams got trending
I LOOOVE TAKING DATA OUT OF CONTEXT AND WRITING MY PERSONAL FANFICTION ABOUT IT. I'M ANALOOOZING.
>>33746562>>33746641>>33746653>>33746746>>33746770>>33746792so in general it's just nothingburger & only affects minor problem to the girls. Got it
>>33746876>lately
did we do it, did we destroy idol culture? can i go back to watching kyo now?
>>33746922More like "Impossible to draw a meaningful conclusion due to a lot of noise at the moment, come back in a few weeks/a month"
>>33746876Sure, have some numbers
>>33746841There's a point when you push out enough debuff streams that it stops being debuff content and starts being who you are.
>>33746474it's already affecting the whole branch in the sense that homobeggars and tourists are motivated to persuade the whole EN branch to collab with Tempus
>>33746816>11 Niji EN streaming over each other>it's not even a big collab>no one will make the EN tallyGrim
>>33746830That makes sense, Nijisanji streams a lot more Minecraft than Hololive nowadays.
Getting mogged by mario galaxy…….
>>33746922The girls? No real impact. Kronii specifically? May end up being negative over time, but not to a larger degree then her own horrifically erratic scheduling creates negative factors for her.
>>33746787He also left out the detail the the first stream was on Kobo's channel, the second on blue boy's. I wonder why he didn't mention it?
>>33746956>5k apex homo collabDoubt it
>>33746876Slow day, NijiEN can't put up a good fight, number discussion is related wether or not male collabs will affect kronii's number. Please understand.
>>33746972Doesn't make her any less popular, CCV is a retarded metric
>>33746972No anon, according to EN fans everything is a debuff, even Rust and FGO.
>>33746841I mean, even if those Live a Live aren't representative of her average, it show that her floor is absolutely shit. She barely have a core viewership.
>>33746698None, it's content/attitude change that usually leads to big numbers shifts and if you're still watching Kronii and Ame daily, you're already used to being mistreated/ghosted/ignored. Kronii randomly disappearing for a week because she just doesn't feel like streaming is unironically worse than a homo collab.
>>33746964damn, nijien beating holo+faggot by like 7ki think they need more male collabs
>>33746474Hard to say how it will effect numbers in the long run but it will absolutely effect perception of the branch overall if this continues.EN and Temppus will become something that's neither Hololive nor Stars. It kind of hard to see them as male or female only units when they are objectively not that on anything other than paper.
>>33746698Nyanners streamed less but the reasons she streamed less were because she was busy doing shit with her boyfriendVeibae has also been reclining it looks like. Anyone who says there's none is retarded. How can you say what plays a bigger factor in a recline? It's impossible to narrow a recline to any one specific thing and it's equally impossible to completely rule some thing out either
>>33746964Nijiniggers can can have irys, and we get Salome. Deal? Deal.
>>33746922The real answer is no one knows and anyone making narratives right now is just trying to sell a story.
>>33747035Cope Samuraikek,goback to jp if you dont like it, en board
>>33746908Tradition as old as time
Noomba
>>33747000Irys……
>>33746767>>33746841Nigga those JRPG numbers were especially bad considering she's supposed to be the second biggest EN behind Gura. Even when playing buff games like Rust she gets average EN numbers, maybe even in the lower bracket. And her newest MV kinda bombed despite everything.Kronii is gonna get even worse considering her shit schedule and all, who the fuck is gonna tune for powerwash simulator except for unicorns and gachikoi?
>>33746830Yeah it's possible, probably happens to Pekora and Gura a lot when they play Minecraft, since they are so cartoony, kids might stumble across and watch their VODs. I think Pomu has the kind of voice kids would enjoy and the fairy avatar is cute too, and she plays a lot of MC, so it might be her. I can't see children finding say..Luca Minecraft very interesting.
>>33746995Oh wowMan it feel weird seeing how much EN hate Minecraft, Hololive national game. While NijiEN love it
>>33746795>stating fact is ditchingCan you produce any concrete evidence that Regis collab has anything to do with Kobo's recline other than the timing?
if everything's a fucking debuff for EN maybe the problem is not the games
>>33747048I mean, the moment they remove the whole numbered Gen in EN was when I realized shit's gonna be different over there
>>33747078Salami is talentless, can she last 4 hours of stream for starters?
>>33747102>SamuraiStop fighting ghosts, you need the copium more lil bro for your debuff streams.
>>33747000she's about to overtake
>>33746767....Subaru playing Persona 4?
>>33747133Not really, there's plenty of Niji EN who barely touch it or don't at all, it's just there 26 of them so some will always be streaming it most days (Pomu sometimes multiple times in a week).
>>33747057Because we have multiple examples of people not reclining due to male collabs. At worse, they'll dip during the male collab and people come back when they do solo streams again.
Somebody take the lead already. End my suffering.
>>33747148Kobokers are just waiting in the wings for the juicy content
>>33747208She'll start bleeding soon, irys has shit retention.
>>33747208IRYS INCLINING!
>>33747148How did it benefit then?
>>33747275AAAAAAAAHHHH THE 99% CULL.
>>33747235Doesn't count
>>33747102>Literally just punching the air to defend EN numberYou can start by telling your friend to watch EN, it might actually save their numbers
>>33746767why not play persona? her fav jrpg. one where she dedicated a whole stream begging altus game company for permission
>Irys 5K GETTO
You guys would be a lot happier sometimes if you fucked 2views instead of bit bait all day, you know.
>>33747275The retention of kobokerz is a bit hilarious
>>33747275>35k churnedKids?
>>33747261No I’m pretty sure if we do a headcount there are more Minecraft enthusiast in NijiEN
EN is so dogshit that even IRyS dunking everyone rn
>>33747235Subaru is a JP and even for a JP, she's a huge exception out of dozens of vtubers that get shit numbers because of long JRPGs.
>>33747354how do I have sex with a 2 view?
>>33747346No perms for EN.
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572690431934087170https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572690431934087170https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572690431934087170>TikTokWill it work? I mean, it worked for Marine, but this is a bit different ...
>>33747110Please God, come back Gura..... Your big projects got released already....... You don't have to to the vtuber equivalent of a strike to force management to approve them anymore........ 4-5 times a week, just like the good old days in 2021........
>>33747048hopefully there's someone in starsEN2 who understood the gender segregation thing & the appeal of hololive girls only club thing.if cover lucky they should hire the male equivalent of kiara aka a guy who's familiar with idol scene & its culture to tardwrangle his genmate. but they have to be a failure idol so they can taste the fear of antis and being professional about it.ex male kpop idol for starsEN2 please yagoo
>>33747354No thank you. I don't want to end up like the Otsuka Ray groomer or Ryeschizo
>>33747188EN felt pretty close to JP up until Tempus debuted. There were a couple Stars collabs but they were spread out just like JP tends to do.They're sort of doing the name thing in JP too. They seemed like they wanted to do it with gen 3 being fantasy but didn't really pick it back up until recently with HoloX.
>>33747400Step one: watch them and be active in their chatStep two: get in their fan server (they will almost always have one)Step three: be more attractive than anyone else in said fan server (this should be relatively easy if you try even a little bit when it comes to your own personal appeal)Step four: ???Step five: Drowning in a 2view's pussy
>>33747431Why is she proud of this shit 3d. Her waist is disproportionate
>>33747395So there's 5k between Luca and Enna, give or take ... Is this out of his time slot?
>>33747275Either explains is funny>80% cull which is unheard of, is her viewer even real at that point>Her viewer have short as fuck attention span, vote and then leave just to be replaced with more people who vote
>>33747267looks like 6 more weeks of suffering
>>33747290Tempus get more exposures and incline
>>33747431Eh, forcing a challenge won't work. But having an active tiktok account will probably help in long term growth. Even if its botted numbers most twitch streamers have realized the viability of it helping growth lately.
>>33747496about 2-3 hours earlierif anything it's outside of Enna's time
>>337475282nd option
>>33747431the dancing klee with Fubuki's audio will do more than this
>Ame stalls in low 5ks>IRyS rolls out of bed, starts her stream late, and turns on kusoge>Ame dips below 5kBut I thought girls that collab with Tempus are supposed to incline because of exposure to new audiences? Shouldn't Ame be higher?
>>33746508Why is EN so obsessed with surprises?
>>33747485gen4 and 5 technically have names but no one uses them: holoforce and holofive, holoforce because it was dumb and holofive because of the graduation, so it's just nepolabo now
>>33747133The game literally saved holoEN from potential recline 6 months ago, now that they've fully abandoned it they went into free fall (except fauna)
>>33747346No EN perms. Her and Kiara have both been getting on managements case about where the EN Atlus perms are.
>>33747546>constant collab with kobo>ends up with 1k hl vr?
>>33747546Tempus didn't incline from the collabs at all. Their solo numbers are going down.
>>33747496it really isn't, he got 31k just 3-4 days ago at 11:00 JST with some Nijigirl overlap
>>33747485They've been doing the name thing in JP for a while, it just never worked out, really.>HoloFantasy (no one bought into it)>HoloForce (no one bought into it)>HoloFive(the name stopped working after one week), renamed "NePoLaBo" (got some traction)>HoloX (this one worked out)The only branch that just uses numbers is HoloID.
HoloEN numbers so shit and the directing they are taking is so retarded that im actually starting to get over my vtuber phase. Well thats what i think until i see Idol show or live and im full back in. For now im going to go watch my old non vtuber no cam twitch oshi for the 1st time in months, see ya nigs~
>>33747528Kobo's viewer churn is absolutely insane and her retention is some of the worst in Hololive. A lot of her viewers are also VOD gang, which is why her VODs are Gura-levels of "views don't match what the CCV implies".
>>33747275800% culled...
>>33747266Really only works if>The other content is compelling>There are enough overall streams from everyone else that male collabs are just a small bitRight now NEITHER of these is really true for EN or the girls who are collabing with the dudes. Mori has been streaming hours of debuff garbage, Ame is known as debuffson now for a reason, and Kronii's solo content has always been crap but kronies put up with it. Bae is bae, I don't think we've seen much of change that can't be attributed to game choice but I can't say much with how little data we have. Contrast this with Fubuki,who churns out so many streams that the one FOXDEMON stream that comes along once in a while is an easy skip for those who don't care about it. There's also the fact that she's not antagonistic towards her own audience.
>>33747632Promise to stay gone!
>>33747546>2k minecraftGRMI
>>33747623>just uses numbers is HoloID.They have name too, you just don't know themArea15 (ID1)Holoro (ID2)Holoh3roes (ID3)
>>33747632nice make sure to say XQCL.
>>33747687>Holoh3roesPeak "F3AR" energy
>>33747546>Falling for the exposure meme when everyone in HoloEN already knows they exist and have either already checked them out or mentally checked them off
>>33747577>mario galaxyKEK might aswell be a superchat reading retard
>>33747275>>33747528Given an average watch time between 10-15 minutes that's not that crazy to have 40k people in a 2 hour 5k stream
>>33746681He made it up. In her superchat reading she said there’s a collab with Watame and release of the WataMori rap from NUO and a members only ASMR on the anniversary of opening memberships.
>>33747678Ill be back in JP times and when Gura is stream tho. I still love idols.
>>33747623In Sankisei case, people just call them “Sankisei”. I honestly feel weird hearing Yagoo referring to ID3 as Sankisei too. In my mind Sankisei is Hololive Fantasy brand name and I think lot of people agree with me on this one
>>33747469Yeah that would be good. I wasn't inherently against the idea of Stars EN but I've soured on the whole idea after it became clear how much them being a thing would effect Holo EN.Hopefully EN 3 gets people that are joining because they also want to be part of a female idol group.
>>33747623holoid also has names, id2 is holoro for example
>>33747687>holo3horesWhy did they mean by this?
>>33747623Does nepolabo sound less stupid to Japanese?
Gura should quit hololive
The Among Us x Hololive collab seems strangely quiet. What are they doing? It'd a big opportunity for Hololive and nothing big is planned for the JP side.
>>33747862Because that worked out so well for Coco
>>33747862this but with kronii
Pretty insane NijiEN overlap right now with 11 people streaming in 8 streams. Shu stuck at 2.3k and Luca at 3.5k. Will be shit for their averages but I wonder how much something like this helps incline the branch. It does give viewers more choices so that should increase total viewership and the NijiEN box, right?
>>33747133Can't collab with males on Minecraft
>>33747822Doesn't that just mean "holo2" in Indonesian. Kind of lame.
>>33747894shut the fuck up bitch
Working its way to 2 million views
>>33747873Miko boycotting until they add her as a skin and remove Risu's
>>33747592Did the Rust buff not work? Don't tell me HoloEN audiences are minecraft kiddies
>>33747862This but irys
>>33747873I think kiara organized a HoloAmogus collab
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1572762363538935808Mousey show with CrunchyHime
>>33747783Cringe, you don't deserve to watch Hololive
>>33747654Didn't she reach those numbers because people just wanted her to be the ID Gura? Kind of a way for them to say "Oh EN has Gura and JP has Pekora? Well we have Kobo!"
>>33747918Shu's previous Hades streams did awful too so no surprise.Luca getting only 400 more than Enna is pretty bad tho.
>>33747862I mean itd be better for homos and homowhores to quit. Muh idol culture right?
>>33747859A little bit, since they already basically make words by slamming together chunks consisting of>normal letter + vowel
>>33747951everything is a debuff in HoloEN.
>>33747469>ex male kpop idolngl that would be kino and i would listen to his zatsu about korean idol scene or him subtly making joke about how harsh korean idol scene is.>>33747814same. seriously its clear the boys just want the holoen is gone to ''holopro en'' but well what did i expect from a bunch ex twitch streamer.
>>33747762Teakek please. Ame gets trash numbers outside of RUST. It's the only thing that can push her to 10k these days. Everything else is 5-7k at best.
>>33747951apparently they have no buff gamessounds like a them problem
What caused IRyS to abandon her SEA lunch timeslot and the audience she made there for over a year to try and aim for NA prime time?
>>33747894Gura quitting will hurt holoen alot more than coco quitting as most of holoen is just gura waiting room.
>>33747825Holo heroesRemember when people were latching on EN3 being HoloLegends? That would make the 3rd gems of Hololive being >Fantasy>Heroes>Legends
>>33747577IRyS is playing a horror game. Ame is on Mario Galaxy 2 part 5.There's no excuse for IRyS to be that low, but here we are.
>>33747918Good for the company bad for the streamers, the typical Niji strategy. To them 50 people with 1k streams is the same difference as 1 50k streamer.
>>33747951How many fucking times am I going to have to explain this?TWITCH RAN RUST INTO THE FUCKING GROUND IN THE WEST ALREADY AND BARELY ANYONE GIVES TWO SHITS NOWADAYS.
>>33748051Watame Sexcation gave her a streak of waking up early, if she fucks it up she'll be back at 10 pm PST start in no time (and fucking over EST IRyStocrats)
>>33747873I mean they didn't give skin for the members who organize and play among us ex. Koyo, Miko etc.
>>33747951Somehow buffs have no effect on HoloEN, must be Susan's fault somehow.
>>33748051I (the only IRyStocrat) got a job that prevented me from watching her at midnight, so she changed to accommodate me.Source: sources aren't important
>>33747825>holo3whores
>>33748051I think they tried to spread out their streams a bit about a month back. I noticed a few changes from the people that usually streamed at 11PM ET
>>33748110what are you talking about, that also happened in jp
>>33747981This will probably be a record low for her but it's also potentially sponsored from CR?
>>33748051Gura stopped streaming so IRyS moved in an attempt to save her channel from algorithm hell. She also started mentioning liking and subscribing around the same time.
>>33748009Anon those are called syllables...
>>33748114She had started to move her streams even before the vacation
>>33748128Kiara didn't get a skin either and she somehow roped in all of ID and some ENs
>>33748041Nice incline irystocuck
>>33747825Just rotate the "3" by 90 degree
https://twitter.com/Big_E/status/1572286379488428033Not sure if this has been talked aboutBut it seems like you can monetize your stream without being a YT Partner? Idk how this work on Twitch
>>33748162Yea, and unlike the west, HoloJP was able to pick up a lot of the Rust tourists when the JP streamer server finished up. EN had no such audience come in.
>>33748291Cull
>>33748051She wants to collab with Males (me and my bois mpus)
>>33748096that does seem to be their strategy, unfortunately it is a dumb one. imo a 15k avg streamer is worth way more than 3x a 5k avg streamer
>>33748236Isn't it management mandated ?
>>33747469why kpop idol specifically? im genuinely curious
>>33748291Skill issue.
it's the cull, it's the debuff games, it's the market, it's the projectsexcuses, excuses, excuses
>>33748274Looks like they'll let you unlock superchats and memberships without the 1k subscribers and 4k watch hours requirement
>>33748328Shut up faggot. Culls aren't being reflected in the VOD views like they were when CCVID was happening, this is just decline from complacency and weakness in the streaming market in the west.
How the fuck is IRyS not getting at LEAST 8k on this?
>>33748370He's probably banking on the idea that kpop idol culture is literally heads and shoulders more insane than the most batshit schizos here when they try and LARP as exaggerated unicorns.Look that shit up, these fucking kpop unicorns (almost all women) will do shit like get plastic surgery to look like their oshis.
>>33748274Damn YouTube is really trying to poach twitch streamers. They're going to add a monetized react system soon at this point.
>>33748423Go back to /jp/ if you don't like it, ywnbj.
KON KON KITSUNE LUCA-KUN
Selen inclining on twitch
>>33744406unfortunately for whatever reason unicucks infested numbers thread
>>33748370I suppose it's because the kpop idol scene is rough as fuck and the lad would probably be a desperate reject that want's to make it as an idol
Yo wtf is that shape on Luca's graph? Is that a kon kon?
>>33747469If you're an Ex-idol, why the hell do you want to do all that shit again?
>>33748515>Not 6kWhy even stream there?
>>33748475She sucks. Bad hire.
>>33748509>>33748539
>>33748238>watchalong
>>33747485>There were a couple Stars collabs but they were spread out just like JP tends to do.So like ... after gen 3? When they have nearly 20 members?
>>33748539it looks like a Z inside a Z
>>33748330It's not a dumb strategy if you can't realistically get any 15k streamers. 30 1.5k streamers are better than 10 3k streams.
>>33748051Trying to scoop up some of the NA audience because NA is dead but she's fucking ugly as hell so she's doing pretty bad
Holy fucking overlap hell
>>33748291EN doesn't even have enough streamers to sustain a Rust narrative independent from the JPs.2 Rust streams a week from Irys and Ame is not enough to maintain interest in a story arc game.I mean it in the nicest way possible, but HoloEN Rust numbers are all from leeching off of HoloJP.
>>33748597Afraid of the overlap hell. Also many said its better to play lamb on twitch
>>33748632>cope
>>33748337Not that I know of. I've heard nothing from her or anyone involved about it being organized by management.
>>33747267Ah, no wonder why people don't shitpost with Mori that much anymore
>>33745236i noticed that too. holoEN is forming to become the new nijiJP and thats a good thing for cover. They will have best of both worlds with holoJP(otakus, idolfags) and holoEN (normies) now.
>>33748597Members can play as the little creatures on the stream with Twitch integration. It's a neat feature. If you're gonna stream something as meh as Cult of the Lamb might as well get some entertainment novelty for your fans out of it if you can.
Will the recent mobilization have negative consequences for Hololive viewership?
>>33748213I dont think the algorithm is her problem its her orc face thats a major turn off for a lot of vtubrr fans...
>>33748650holo+homo: 13.7kniji: 18.1ksounds like holo needs more male collabs
>>33748509I don't get it. Isn't this what every stream graph is supposed to look like? Holo streams look like these too
>>33747951>Don't tell me HoloEN audiences are minecraft kiddiesSearch 'hololive' on youtube and sort by view count, the result might surprise you
>>33748370nta but because most kpop idol can speak english to some extent (the industry required them to) and some can speak JP too.either way, Kpop idol always guaranteed to be bilingual or trilingual in some way.also >>33748518and in korean idol scene there's a lot ''indie'' or ''freelance'' idol (most of them were kpop reject or their group was disbanded) who tried to become tiktoker, youtuber,etc to get a name and make it as idol (and being recruited) this type of people will take every opportunity they get & i am not surprised if this people will join vtuber since vtuber is the closest thing they get as being an idol
Kronii EN Gold?
>>33748740No but it will affect Pekora's monkey.
>>33748669That's true, and all of this falls back on EN simply not having enough members. Again.Fuck this incompetent branch management and their slow-fucking rollout of members. HoloEN should've had a 3rd gen 4+ months ago. They really should have opened auditions several months earlier.
>>33748650Ame with her stone cold 5k numbers never seazes to amaze me
>>33748274>alternate condition is 10m shorts viewsI get that shorts views are super inflated but what the fuck?
>>33748650ENbros, these numbers are embarrassing... Only male collab can save you all
>>33748731Eh the strongest thing about NijiJP is their tourist ceilings and twitter army, both of which HoloEN doesn't have.
>>33748637I see Zs within Zs.
>>33748650>Uki only 2K leeching Shoto>Shu 2k>Luca 3kDamn... imagine what it's gonna be like when Waves 7 and 8 drop.
>>33748828Shorts are fucking worthless adwise, makes sense to me.
>>33748475Too ugly for NA prime time no joke.
Which HoloEN will play FGO first?
>>33748901yeah, nijien box is gonna mog holoen box even harder
>>33747938Will be hilarious if this beats Treasure Box to 10 milProof that only thing can beat hag coomerbait is cunny coomerbait
>>33748740Only if it leads to WW3.
End of hour numbers
>>33748775Hololive FukkiretaBeyond the stageMori-Gura songMori songGura songMori songMori songMori songMarine songSongSongGura animationSong...Ok, now what?
>>33748963Nah. There's no way, Treasure box was way faster and kept gaining momentum thanks to going viral on tiktok.
>>33748476can confirm i am kpop fans kpop schizo or the ''sasaeng'' fans they call it is simply more insane that make LARPing unicorn here looks like child play. a lot of them doesnt hesitate making someone commit suicide
>>33747951Strictly tourist speaking, VTuber in EN always have to play catch-up in terms of gamebuff compare to JP
>>33748744I mean most holofans dont even know she exists. People will either watch other EN or watch a JP, she offers nothing to the table.
>>33748943Only Ina and Kiara seems to be into gacha in HoloEN. Ina is more likely, but both are pretty unlikely.
>>33748475People thought she was inclining in July and August because she had ~10 streams a month in those periods and had a lot of breaks, return, and buff streams along with her Anniversary inflating her CCV. This is absolutely normal for IRyS with an overlap.
>>33748973Why IRyS out here with the vagina chart
>>33748973HoloENproBox 12kNijisanjiENBox 18k
>>33748816On one hand, minor overlap already has devastating effects on most of HoloEN. On the other hand, I wonder how many Holofans in the past year "fell off the wagon" because it's just so boring compared to HoloJP where they have weekly collabs and big events.
>>33748755NijiEN has bigger mindshare than HoloEN because the accelerate strat gives a ton of reach
>>33748669Cope Gura is the main character in Rust she is the main reason why holorust is big.
>>33748854>holen doesnt have70K likes on kroni's twitter post beg to differ but thats ok you dont have to understandyou will see in due time
>>33749041OBS crapped out for 20 seconds
why is twitter so useless
>>33749077Based
TWITTER LIKESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
When is the best time to have non-bait and useful conversations in this thread?
>>33749030HoloEN doesn't offer anything to the table either if you put it that way
>>33748731I don't think HoloEN can have the kind of tourists that nijiJP have whenever they have big events though.
>>33748943Ina's the only one who gives a shit about it, isn't she? Gura, Ame, Fauna, Mori, Mumei don't care about gacha.Kiara likes characters from certain gacha but I've never gotten any sense she cares about Fate. She might do it just for the numbers if she gets permission. Kronii has the Fate connection with her artistBae and IRyS idk about, they seem like the type that might have watched some of the anime.
Bae starting, watch irys start freefalling to 2k.
>>3374907711k
>>33748973>AIAback to sub 500grim...
>>33749138>in this thread
>>33749138When Pekora is streaming
>>33749079Vox and Mysta get 70k likes on a photo of homecooked dinner. Kronii's dramanumber is only impressive for HoloEN.
>>33749138When there are useful numbers being posted, like the median charts, the time someone dropped the financial sheets for Cover and Anycolor, etc.
>>33749138Useful? nevernon-bait? a Holoevent where it turns into hlgg2, and all the CCV milestone posts and journalposting goes up
Bae's starting now too. Gonna start realizing that HoloEN without overlap are sub 5k chuubas
>>33749007there's a famous story about a kpop anti who larped as a megafan and gave an idol orange juice with superglue in it to try to kill them
>>33749110Another easy 4.5k from Enna
Do we have another scheduled FGO stream?
>>33749042>8 Niji = 3 Holo You must have a grand time choosing which one to watch out of all of these
>>33749042Number of streamers?
I feel like the word "context" might be somewhat lost in this type of thread.
>>33749138I don't get posts like this, what the fuck do you actually want to discuss
>>33749034>>33749167Ina won't do it, she doesn't want to start a second account. Also, she's not even sure if they have EN perms. Sauce: today's drawing stream.
Blue Boy inclining
is kpop idol scene really that harsh? compared to JP one? im not well versed with kpop shit, so i have no idea.
>>33749269It's extremely useful when people want to have an honest conversation.The keyword in that sentence is "when."
>>33749269Explain
>>33749265Anon better check if its a collab with single pov
>>33749265"it sure is nice having options" is not the burn you think it is
>>33749295KEKcan't beat the cock
>>33747469>the appeal of hololive girls only club thingunfortunately that only appeals to a limited audience, EN management seems to want a bigger piece of the pie I'd argue management should have persuaded the girls to stream more if they wanted to increase the audience size, but I realized that that is exactly what the Tempus collabs are for: to make them stream more.
>>33749269Oh that wasn't obvious anon?
>>33749274Nothing, they just want to virtue signal about how /#/ is 'le toxic thread'
>>33749305Call me when any Japanese idol (virtual or otherwise) gets shit like this on a semi-consistent basis
>>33749305Kpo, you are forced to become a skeleton which drives them insane
>>33749295look at the graph
>>33749195calm down sisteryour faggots are irrelevant1M subs and barely beat a 150K homostarsembarrassing that you are even here.
>>33749281As someone who played FGO for years, the thought of starting a new account is actually a nightmare.If I lost my current account, I'll just quit instead of start fresh.I wish they get a real gacha weeb in HoloEN3 who is willing to stream gacha rolls.
>>33749242kpop antis make vtuber unicorn schizo looks like mentally sane person.
I'm considering to apply for Holostars EN or NijiEN, which one is more promising and has more support this day
>Luxiem favoritism continueshttps://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1572767638660554754
>>33749000https://youtu.be/ZPsRPgWZAE8
>>33749257Peko Himiko pulls
>>33749478You'll make money in StarsEN, I can't guarantee that for NijiEN.
>>33748555ask KiaraPersonally though, I'd say there's a thrill in getting to entertain a lot of people and having a lot of doting fans. Sure, management could treat you like shit, but there's satisfaction in entertaining an audience.
>>33749449Like Finana?
>>33749442To add to that, that Vesper stream is an unscheduled one.
>>33749478Assuming you had the talent for either, it's irrelevant.
>>33749242I don't think that would kill someone. Also I think you would immediately notice the taste and consistency.
>>33749490>retro romannani
>>33749490LOE will be getting non-event merch support soon right, fellow Pomudachi?
>>33749496Jesus fuck, 28 fucking mill
>>33749442Correcting your stupid ass about how much bigger Niji's twitter army is compared to Holo's doesn't mean I'm a luxiemfag.Educate yourself so I don't have to shit on you for being ignorant.
>>33749538>>33749242>secret "glue" in a drink you give your oshicall that a cumpscare
>>33749478starsEN, even if you end up as 3 view you will still get support from management like starsJP
>>33749512wouldn't more member for either just kill the current members? Both is looking like a deadend
>>33749478NijiEN has good support but is already overpopulated by males so definitely Holostar especially now that EN is going all out for them
>>33749007>>33748476>>33748793>>33748518So after reading all these post ...Pray do tell ... Why the FUCK does Hololive need more of that kind of 'fan' again? Might as well go back to fucking China while we're at it
>>33749478Do whatever talent you like more, if you don't like your coworker, we'll go schizo about it
>>33749490>Retro Roman>wearing Japanese shitAm I missing something?
>>33749630The OP said>ex-kpop idolnot>kpop fansThere's a difference there.
>>33747003Unless Kronii changes her solo content, she’ll still attract the same type of audience: Obssessed coomers that can stand dumb games and watch on shitty schedules. Gabe might fuck off but he’ll be replaced by the same type, not by a new type of audience.
>>33749512Vesper out earns every NijiEN except Vox, Luca, and Alban.
>>33749079she got 70k for a buffed tweet from a bunch of people who most likely don't even watch her or just hate hololive, while Vox can get the same numbers for the most mundane of tweets
>>33749583L will get 3D showcase holokek
>>33749478Whichever one you choose make sure to do leaks for shits and giggles.
>>33749496Da hell 28m.
>>33749626As long as the Baroness exists, you will make money.
Guys is it primetime yet?
>>33747469Hololive are still a girls only club if you avoid the one or two crossgender collabs. The big events will stay the same
>>33749442Raid peak. His zatsus are sub 4k now. Your homobeggar has reclined. Kronii collab won't save him.
>>33749512Idk, StarsEN gets a salary and more merch. HoloProEN is just really stingy about sponsorships for some reason compared to NijiEN who would advertise a shitty chinkware game for 5 dollars and a sandwich.
>>33749701>>33749442
>>33749774JESAS
>>33749138When there are interesting numbers.
>>33749793"muh slippery slope"
>>33749803Accepting a sponsorship depends on the talent on holo
Gura should start gambling on stream
>>33749295What happened to EN vtubing, are they killing themself? How? No one expected it? The only hope left is gura and EN3?
>>33749589argument wasnt about luciem retard but about holoen being the next nijijp which it might become if they play their cards right. learn how to follow a line of argument instead of pulling at straws.
>>33749601That's a common thing. Idols wear gloves because dudes will jizz on their hand before handshake events and try to touch the girls. Not even antis, actual fans, they just want their cum to touch their oshi.
>>33749774no, it's in about 11 hrs
>>33749774Did Russia nuke the USA or something? Where are all the viewers?
>>33749774IRyS dabbing over everyone is FUCKING GRIM
>>33749825we're talking about Twitter likes, not their CCV, but sure, have this (You)
>>33749876Twitter likes high ground.
>>33749877o-oo-ok d-d-dud
any chance on EN we will get our own keemstar or xqc but vtuber? the one who feeds from dramabait and brings big number?
>>33749799Your mom is a raid peak.
>>33749924I'm watching a 2view asmr vod right now
>>33749924i only watch guraall the girls are compromised
>>33749693>changes her solo contentThe only way she can change her audience is to change her voice or get a complete redesign.
>>33749897>Idols wear gloves because dudes will jizz on their hand before handshake events and try to touch the girls.>girls like Suisei and Mumei wear gloves with fingers exposedWhat did they mean by this
>>33749924If only...
>>33749924School season and the end of the vtuber boom this year
>>33749774>>33749924Two words:School's Started.Source: Work at school and should be asleep already
>>33749877>Bro I'm fried
Haven't seen the Ennakek lately.Enna is streamin' right now.
>>33749799What?
>>33749966You have Falseeyed and that stupid lamb faggot. That's the best you'll get. Grim, I know.
>>33749938actually we were talking about nijiJP
>>33749876Both companied shitting at their own fans lol. Only few survivors like fauna and mumei.
>>33749774>Maguni 3600 in primetime with giga overlapNoice
>>33748740I am drafted, on my way to save my brothers in the West. Won't have time for # and the girls for quite a while. See you soon.
>>33750052This is the most embarrassing display for that Enna vs. IRyS schizo
>>33750070companies*
>it's just school debuff bro>Meanwhile 120k children are watching twitch drama.Nah.
>>33750085Grab me a washing machine while you're out.
>>33750077>Buff game undertale>only 3.6kHoly Tempisscope!
>>33749257I hope so
>>33750063>not even dramachuuba in en vtuber scene get big numberGrim. vtuber is truly dead in the west
>>33749774one, two, three, four, fivefive 3viewha ha ha
>>33750052someone claiming to be him confessed that he fucked off after Enna, on stream, had said that she found a relationship
>>33750157Yes it is. Streaming outside vtubing is way bigger anyways
>>33749924I'm watching Bae, but I wouldn't be surprised if people who are just tired of this drama have decided to tune out until it all dies down. If they're planning on dropping EN3 they really should do it this weekend instead of waiting until October.
>>33747398As opposed to the second biggest EN Vtuber with multiple top tracking singles?
>>33750060>not showing all of the graphI see through your tricks homobeggar. He got raided from the Regis collab with Kobo and bled like 40% of it over time.
>Ame 5k>Irys 5k>Bae 3k after 15 minsJesus christ. HoloEN needs an injection of life so badly. Imagine if they didn't get homo collabs either and lose cripple gold too.
>>33750173>buff game undertale it's not 2016 anymore anonchama...
RIP Ennakek
>>33749876Nijisanji decline because of the many screwupsHololive is because Gura is not streaming, the male drama may cause more people to leave if it keeps getting worst.
>>33750157Dramas are adult business, watching cartoon character is what kids do
>>33750274That is not a raid peak anon
>>33749774Jesus Aia. There's no Scarle pov too.
>>33750293Yes it is now kys Holokeks!
>>33748613Source ? Looks hot
>>33750258This. Drama is a big turn off because it destroys the hololive illusion.
>>33750173You don't even know what a buff game looks like. Stop trying to blend in dramanigger
wtf is happening with Luca
>>33749079anon, a lot of these likes were Nijifags and indies
>>33749513Idk, maybe it's just me, but when your fans doesn't want to be entertained, but submission, it stopped feel like something a person would like to do Which is why to this day I still despite irl idols
>>33749984They aren't real hands that will ever touch a cumhand
https://youtu.be/8mGkcrEkmOs>Membership-only RustSounds fucking stupid
>>33750425Kon Kon Kitsune?!
>>33750258>if people who are just tired of this drama have decided to tune out until it all dies down.>The only stream related to any "drama" is the only stream that did good today
>>33750425they're not even clean Zs...
>>33749876Few thousand gachikoi's left, thanks gronii. She and tempus really did killed holo EN
>>33750454KANATA YOU WHORE YOU DID THIS
>>33750406he wasn't here when Holokeks spam the shit out of Undertale. Marine got 1.2M views for Undertale VOD
>>33750240took him this long to realize it when /nijiEN have already reveal and dox her with BF pics on multiple occasions KEK
>>33750425Australian internet
>>33749774>A-At least we got a lot of twitter likes guys...
>>33748051Fuck you, I'm happy. I can watch her for a bit before I have to go to bed when she superchats for twenty hours.
>>33750454Do a membership rust and peko will target you. Kanata ate Peko's wrath yesterday
>>33750480>Replace your normal audience with one that only pops up for novelty crap>wonder why your normal numbers are down
>>33750425Bat flu, not enough $11 to summons bots.
>>33748370>kpop idol scene is harsh>struggling, aspiring idol really desperately wanted to make it as an idol>get accepted to one of pseudo idol agency after so many rejections and failure>dude will try his best to be professional and avoiding any controversy in fear of losing his fans or getting antisisnt that hard to connect the puzzle anon.>>33748555some people are just stubborn and don't want to give up their dream
15 EN streamers, at least they're starting to try to match JP output even if it means cannibalizing their peaksthis is a cope, you may give me (you)s
>>33750274>Peak raid at 3.9k>Still incline to 4k and hold it for over half an hour>Bleed 40%Why are we having so many newfags trying to blend in ? Is /#/ really that influential now ?
>LucaEnnaYou guys are missing kino, probably the best male/female EN vtubing pair. Even better than Shoto/Ironmouse and Vesper/Kronii.
Lads, I think the EN recline is too real.
>>33750528JP and EN audiences have completely different tastes in games and undertale is definitely not a buff game for EN.
5 is the ugliest digit, prove me wrong
Kronii might as well become the DSP lolcow of Hololive. The biggest thing people took out from this controversial shitty drama bait stream is that she's a dogfucker.
>>33750293https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9pegmhQo7M&t=16113shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VoIGGMYrDghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INlu0N5nbKI
>>33749478You are gonna get rejected with that mentality Anon. Holostars truly look for people who are passionate about vtubing and have some talent or potential for improvement.If you consider it as a side job or just a job, you will become another Sana, and you will get crucified by some anons here
>>33749876NijiEN fucking sucks because they pander hard to normies and chinese women and HoloEN thought "Gee that looks fun I want a piece of that" and followed them into the muck. Fucking stupid.
>>33750454Blame Kanata for starting this bullshit. Mfers are trying to Speedrun the death of rust buff.
>school starting excuse>when JP still can get their usual numbers
This wouldn't happened if holo en just listened to korone advice on idols.
>>33750649have you seen 0
>>33750625Do you have any evidence to support the conclusion that Undertale is a debuff game for EN ?
>>33750621No way
>>33750569>Replace your normal audience with one that only pops up for novelty crapProof next thread?>wonder why your normal numbers are downNigger at least follow the convo. This is about people unrelated to the drama.
https://youtu.be/tmR3bNEDW80tldr: twitch is going to pay creators less
>>33750656>Posts JPs
>>33750288I expected Bae's overlap numbers to be not great but I expected around 5k, not sub 5k. Guess she has a pretty shit floor.
>>33750650So when is kronii gonna jerk off on stream?
>>33750695He doesn't have it. Holokeks just lying is nothing new
>>33750625Undertale has a massive fanbase who will tune in just to watch a playthrough. It is very much still a buff game.
>>33750695NijiEN's undertale streams during NA times.
>>33750288>injection of life More homo collabs, just do it
It's been a while since I visited hlgg. They are more deranged than when I left.
>>33750656Ironically enough, I think the best numbers you will get are games that are coop, and shooters with survival elements that allow cruelty and abuse. So Ark might, might be a good choice.
>>33750454why is this a thing? like what is the purpose?
This wouldn't happened if holo en just listened to korone advice on idols sigh...
>>33750735Now post EN
>Pekora go out of her way to cuck King out of gold>Give free gold to ToyaThey are?
>>33750681Rust is already dead when gura didn't join S3 anon.
shouldn't luca have more viewers than this? i don't particularly keep tabs but i swear they're normally much higher
>>33750689At least it's symmetrical, have you seen 2? Literally a fat Z
>>33749677Anon, let's not fucking kid ourselves hereWhat kind of fan do you think those type will attract? Not normies, that's for damn sure (Just look at Kiara)Unicorns just want someone who can reinforce their ranks when they see EN is trying to remove them
>>33750851Yes yes anon. 11k.
>>33750733Twitch is dead?
>>33750777>Asks for HoloEN>Example is nijiENare you a retard?
>>33750528By your retarded logic Amnesia the dark descent or 5 night at Freddy's should be a giga massive buff for every streamers on Youtube. Markiplier peaked with those game and he's a 20mil sub Youtuber.Wait but I forgot, you nijinigs specialty is living in the past
>>33750751If Shu only got 5.5k with undertale, idk how it can be a buff game. You can look at Mysta's undertale streams too where he barely got 10k in the Sans fight.https://vrabi.net/video/9cjpGC4UA_E
Don't look Lucubs
>>33750687Or if JP management kept a tighter leash on Omegatroon. Talk about killing your golden goose, the only shill streams EN will get from now on will be for pic related
>>33750801Membership baiting. Kanata gained like a hundred of new members streaming member-only Rust onceIt's a forceful way to convert tourist into members
>>33750889Soon after the drama shitstorm ends. They're still hinting more leaks to keep the drama arc going.
>>33750828No one has played it on stream
Apparently this is what they sent streamers on twitch about changing to 50/50 split. >a 100 ccu streamer who streams 200 hrs per month costs them $1000Is what they were parroting to them, Kaela cant even reach 200 hrs per month.......
>>337506495 is mid at best7 is the ugliest, skinny ass, deformed spine motherfucker, at least 1 is completely straight
>>33750695It's been pretty meh for Niji EN and Holo ID. No EN has played it as far as I know, most of them played it in their old content or in their personal time and wouldn't have genuine reactions to it anyway.
>>33750881Unicorns and incels are the ones that watching these ungrateful whores. I hate twitter and reddit fucks.
>>33750992Then how did you know it wasn't buff for HoloEN?
>>33750855I assume he's dying under the overlap. Both HoloEN and NijiEN crumble under overlap I guess. Non-event box is just not big enough for either.
>>33750681Kanata was terrorized by Pekora for this shit yesterday
>>33750899This conversation started when anon said Magni, a StarsEN, is playing Undertale, a buff game.There is more overlap between what is a buff game between StarsEN and NijiEN than StarsEN and HoloJP.
>>33750822I think it is jop left which was helping to prob up everyone but the drama is making them leave holoen completely.
>>33749774>Irys on top with 5.4k viewersman...
>>33750946They are that desperate for holo rust content?
So no Miko in Rust s3 last day I guess newbies gonna be the center of the last day war since no Miko/Suisei/Matsuri.
Now that I’m thinking about it, Cover really has been horribly slow with EN expansion. To put it into perspective, we’re entering the range at which it took JP to release HoloX after gen 5, except in their case they already had 30 members. It’s taken over a year to debut a new gen to put EN to not even 20, but 15. Even at 15 EN would still be 1/3rd the members JP has…
>>337510037 looks much better with a crook and a cross, nothing saves 5
>>33751087There are events before last day though.
>>33751079The answer is yes
>>33751052care to provide data?
Half an hour numbers
>>33751065IRyS has a solid 5k no matter which timeslot or what she streams huh.
>>33750454FUCK YOU KANATA YOU FUCKING CUNT
>>33751087won't top S2 finale huh...
>>33750288>injection of lifefor better or for worse, that's Tempus
>>33751087Gay rules, gay season, fuck Kanata for turning it into a membership content , fuck everyone who turned it into a construction war arc. They should've just assigned a permanent team in the beginning of the arc.
>>33750996To be fair day long streams are the norm on twitch. Twitch streamers will do a normal 8 hour day every day just streaming. Logging on and only doing an hour long stream is a Vtuber specific thing.
>>33750917I mean, when you have a graph like this, you don't even know what's the real number anymore: >>33750425 Yt CCV is fucked
>>33751121On what? Audience overlap or shared buff games? Even HoloEN and HoloJP barely share buff games. Look at HoloEN's splatoon 3 and Monster Hunter numbers compared to JP's.
>>33751087the new rules and the horrible map already killed this season
>>33750288magni near to 4k btw
>>33751131What the fuck is with NijiEN and the Z
>>33750996200 hours per month is a full time 40-hour a week job. Not including any other thing you do outside of pure streaming like social media, clip editing, any production additions to your streams ect.
>>33751219Post screenshot of numbers and not subjective sentences
>>33751189The rules doesn't matter as long as gura is around but since she's not playing rust anymore new season of rust is not that hype anymore.
>>33750650>The biggest thing people took out from this controversial shitty drama bait stream is that she's a dogfucker.I just woke up, what the fuck happened in that collab?
>>33751118Same event as last season the Koyori event.Though still hoping this season is just a break for most since a lot are plan a break this season.
>>33751182>debuted two months ago>somewhat things got way worse despite the constant collabsthey are literally poison
>>33751189>Gay ruleswhat did they do this time?
It's not fun when HoloProEN gets serious.
>>33751164Pekora will only be in the support cast this season. Gotta give spotlight to the shitters, S3 rules was literally made to prop up the shitters
So uh.. havent been around for a while and it seems like twitch is literally dying huh? >AlsoWhat's with all the shit on the catalog? I thought holofags were cool with tempus
>>33751135nah this is a buff game
>>33751037twitter and reddit ppl just wanted to bandwagon the vtubing ride just like what happened to anime. Saying i love women sport on twitter gets you 100 likes.
>>33751131One of them didnt collab with males
>>33751279Anykara doesn't pay them enough baseline to afford good internettheory 2) they are too stupid to play with a good internet connection or worse, stream on wireless
>>33751262and this retard said Undertale is n ot buff content for HoloEN >>33751219
>>33751287We all have access to vrabi so you can look it up yourself. I'm not going to link every HoloJP and HoloEN MHR stream and NijiEN Undertale stream to convince you something that's fucking obvious.
>>33751192It's because there's no point having everyone in a corpo do 8 hour streams. Reduce stream time and spread it out among your talents so everyone stays happier and people don't run out of content and have to resort to react content like on twitch
>>33750996He said twitch has fucked up his tax income stuff already before so he doesnt trust them to handle all this. Maybe NotRushia was talking about this, i wonder if they let her just stream on YT as nazuna next year.
Are we in CCVID part 2?
>>33751330No killing without permission until the war phase among other no fun rules iirc
>>33751330>No armor plates>1 turret limit> No more one versus manyBasically a soft Pekora ban.
I want off this ride Mr. Bones
>>33750621Quick. start a minecraft projectoh and get gura to stream games again..
>>33751332>5k is the top streamwhy are we losing time discussing these nobodies
>>33751131>No male collab>dominatinghomobros....
>>33751088Yeah, accelerate is a meme but they'd really be better served with having new gens. I wonder if part of the Tempus collab is because they're desperate to have anyone new to collab with (that speaks EN/same timezone), most of the crossgender collabs can be avoided simply by giving the girls another gen to collab with and likewise for the guys.
>>33751311There is polka battle royale no?
>>337513694k is what Magni gets on a non-debuff game, retard. Subnautica is a buff game too then I guess?
>>33751298Freudian slip.
>>33751382yes I'm waiting for your data, no screenshot then I accept your concession
>>33751189I guess girls really want to relax this season even the old timers isn't that active.
>>33751435Keep fighting! Z into the tally!
>>33751335Pekora gets the biggest number anyway.
>>33751452I want jp gen 7
School is starting and is not longer on remote so i do expect a drop in numbers across the EN field, not just holo but nijien, indies, and even shoto (6k right now)A since no new interesting vidya is coming in months until maybe pokemon.Splatoon is only a buff for japs. there isnt a lot to choose from content wise reagrding videogames. You can see it with kaira and irys picking old games but these wotn give numbers anymore. They need something new and fresh.Right now what they all should be focusing on is singlepov collabs that are either games between each other or comeptitive like uno/clubhouse/worms or interesting ideas like Kroni psychiatrist vesper zoomer vs boomer.And actually get toghteer ina fucking game like minecraft or rust and actually play it with each other.Anwyay the main issue right now is what the fuck does the EN audience like or look for on streams beside drama?
>>33751432>1 turret limitok that's pretty gay indeed
>>33751468That's actually great for her numbers though, it's good viral clip materials which is always good for engagement (also it give people something else to focus on rather than the crossgender collab), but unfortunately Kronii will be too lazy to capitalize on it.
>>33751412Gato never qualified for this, she was always at the 50/50 mark for her Twitch channel.
>>33751189All these rules so ame wont cry like a lil bitch
Imagine how boosted vtuber numbers on YouTube would be if it had a live stream frontpage like Twitch does. If it ever happens, vtuber numbers might actually double.
>>33751369>first episode of an RPGwait for the sixth one. At best people will tune in for the Sans bossfight.
>>33751335Pekora will just stream FGO over the finale out of spite.
>HoloEN 14K GETTO
>>33751464>Check the usual sites>Magni usual numbers was 2.5-3kAnother Hololie
>>33751346Why the fuck do you come back, stay away when you can
>>33751456I don't know most I see is the Koyori event the polka one is a trial last time don't know if she will do it this season.
>>33750650>she's a dogfucker.Mumei pls save animal
>holokeks
>>33751539Bring ui mama, rikotan, rurudo and pochi in. Hire holo fans is the safest bet.
>>33751189>>33751225>new rulesWha?
>>33751590No new banner at the end of the month though...By then FGO JP would be in a dead week
Irys was used as a bae waiting room……..
The boys are inclining hard and the girls are losing viewers day by day because they can't even bother to fucking stream or became too comfortable doing the same thing.The same thing happened to Nijisanji, the girls became second class citizens and the males became the priority.Gura needs to wake up
>>33750449Oshi no ko may be right after all. The work of an Idol is to sell you the sweetest illusions.
>>33751548Minecraft arcs with open VC are always good to fallback on. Fauna has been playing by herself for a month now and no one even bothers to play with her. They still haven't reached the top of Sana's tower and her corpse has decomposed by now.Kiara getting 7k on GTAV is actually not bad considering what her numbers were before that game.
>>33751645No wonder Ena is reclining
And ame is at the top again
>>33751645>fankeks
>>33751424>>33751432Tf? Why? Who impose these rules?
>>33751037Well, judging by the numbers, you should watch them more
>>3375156650/50 means she breaks the threshold tho. The guy im watching is a 4-5k streamer and he says he breaks the threshold comfortably.
>>33751708>still haven't reached the top of Sana's towerThat's fucking GRIM
>>33751656Majority of Pekora's FGO stream is about the story no?
>>33751708Speaking of MC, it was funny seeing Reine call Gura out during their stream. She really hammered it down about when she’s gonna build atlantis
>>33751763Omega
>>33751763according to korosan, management post
>>33751607https://vrabi.net/video/Kvxre336E9s Neck yourself nigger.In what world is this 2.5-3k?
>>33750650Face it, all women who have dogs had sex with their dogs at one point. Google dogpile.
Th happened to irys domination?
>>33751763Someone who think what Pekora did was "unfair" and "not fun"So the rules was set to make the game "fair" and everyone can catch up with minimal efforts
>>33751757Rushia was spared seeing Hololive become Tempus cocksleeves, in the end she was blessed
This thread is fucking awful
>>33751564I mean capitalizing on being a dogfucker is a bit too shameless, not that you're wrong.
>>33751833>>33751837Why tf are management get their hands on the girl's contents? Just shit back and handle whatev shitstorm coming after
>>33751797Yeah but they only have perm for Fuyuki and she finished itThough, who know what could happen
>>33751708Fauna is stupid and is hoping someone reads her mind and invites her to a MC collab. She even expressed interest in playing MC with Kiara but wants her to set up the collab.
>>33751849i don't watch the homos but damn, they seem to be doing quite good for themselves. I expected them to be 3views by now.
>>33751695Well no shit, that's why they call them idols
>>33751861Give it a rest teacuck
>>33751645is there a source for this
>>33751708>Kiara getting 7k on GTAV Yeah but the days of 10k for the en audience with that game are over. IMO they should experiment and reach out for new games.p5 is still int he open kiara could easily play that and get 10k on the first epsidoe and average 5k in the enxt ones like with her yakuza series. Also trying more indie games that could peak the interest of folksRemember the fish game? they need to try and find new content, not just fucking mario, elden shit and obsucre ass rpg like live a live.Hell Lui getting 8-10k on fucking nocturne is unbelivable. Thety have plenty of permissions and really need to try things no tohers have play. i wanna see how Irys does on Mgeman x4.
>>33751849>collab >collab>collabLook at this solo game stream, a fucking 2.8k, 2k, and 3.3kNow neck yourself Holobronies!
>>33751936Wasn't Kiara the one who went "The senpai has to set up the collab" or was that a rrat?
>>33750650Koreans are supposed to eat dogs, not fuck them
>>33751861You have to add the BaeRyS numbers together
>>33751447>Barely beat Mario fucking GalaxyCome on now ...
>>33751992Obviously there's a rrat, there's been plenty of cases where it's the kouhai initiating things - see Ollie for instance
>>33751936Didn't Fauna say they were finally going to visit Sana's tower next week?
>>33751932Hololive management always does this though? They are obsessed with eliminating any risk they can came up with
>>33751828I think it's about damn time! They could really turn it into some kinda event at this point. Turn that entire biome with lots of coral into a huge fucking underwater city of atlantis
>>33751688unbothered. moist. happy. in her lane. sleeping. flourishing.
>>33751992Clearly not true since Lui has been setting up collabs with her senpai left and right
>>33751938I mean the two runts are borderline 4 views right now.
>>33751973EN doesn't have Atlus perms.
>>33751861irys was literally used as a bae wating room
>>33751990You fucking retard, you don't even know which streams are collabs.>2.8k is a collab with Rio>3.9k art stream is solo>3.4k Subnautica ep 2 is solo>2.8k Splatoon 3 is a collab with Regis>4.1k Subnautica ep 1 is solo
>homo cannot initiate collab - said by homo themselves>Axel invited Zeta - confirmed by Zeta>Ame won't initiate collab >The worm collab>Kronii won't interact with homos on the twitter>Interact with Vesper posting his boxersLies after lies.
>>33751876>>33752078Jesas fucking christ! Fuck them! The girls should have fucking spergs out at those control freaks
>>33751548>Anwyay the main issue right now is what the fuck does the EN audience like or look for on streams beside drama?Well, you just got the answer to yourself anon ...Seriously there's no saving that fucking market unless Twitch nuke itself and even then it will take 10 more years with the current political climate in the US
https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1572779277296488448The fucking bitch.
>>33752120im dam sure they do. they just dont want to play on ps4, there was a reason kaira was asking about p5god taruma center for ame or catherine for bae/irys would be amazing. tought i just remember the permissions guy was out of comission acording to gura.
>>33752120EN did a pretty good job debuffing themselves in other ways but this to me is one of their biggest weakness, they barely got game perms or so late they miss the JP hype, which leaves us with the either old games or indie games.
>>33752187koyo my beloved
>>33752187I fucking lover her bro....
>>33752179that's why peko would rather stream fucking FGO
>>33751992nah, but it's like politeness, you as a kouhai don't want to bother your senpai, so you just wait for them to reach, or at least them giving you permission to reach out to them
>>33751973>Hell Lui getting 8-10k on fucking nocturne is unbelivableI think expecting a EN audience to watch something like that is crazy.Just because japs like some game does no mean EN audiences are nearly as enthusiastic about it.Hell, just compare Mario kart numbers between EN and JP.
>>33752213No, they don't, anon. Kiara wanted to start Catherine weeks ago, but she can only play it in Japanese. She's still waiting on the perms for it.
>>33752213They have perms to play it in japanese with japanese text but not english.
>>33751861councilrys share an audience not suprising
>>33751548the main problem with EN is they need to share themselves with twitch and twitch pretty much moved away from game content ainto drama and reaction content.
>>33752154It's a rule the JP Stars have to avoid drama. Tempus never got the memo and flung themselves headfirst into a huge shitstorm and dragged the girls into an uncomfotable position where they have to denounce their own gachikoi. The JP Stars are probably seeing this shit fiesta and thinking Tempus are retards for hurting their own Hololive branch so badly, this is exactly why they stay in their own lane and don't try to leech too hard.
>>33751634This is the only place i could discuss my hobby bro..
>>33752154HoloLiers
>>33751936Fauna doesn't want to force anyone. She wants people to be intrinsically motivated to play MC. Its part of the reason why she is building all these farms so that if people have easy access to materials they might get motivated to build stuff. But you know and I both know it isnt gonna do anything
>>33752154Where did anyone say they cannot initiate collabs?
>>33752154>>33752288what are you retards talking about, i'm not seeing any numbers
>>33751973Nah I can see why Nocturne gets high viewership with the Japanese.JRPG known for being hard as hell (and beloved) and first time playthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d-qq6FsX2I&t=29s
>>33752326>Fauna doesn't want to force anyoneThere is that, and there is not even asking.
>>33752154holoen was in the lieverse all along...
>>33752154ETA for starsJP getting flaked because of their dumb junior?
>>33751695>The work of an Idol is to sell you the sweetest illusions.No shit. I don't care what they do behind our backs, just give us a good show.
>>33752344>i'm not seeing any numbersYeah exactly, EN is fucking dead thanks to the homos, they'll never be getting numbers again
Do we have numbers from last year on how daylight savings time ending will effect numbers for the JST based chuubas streaming earlier for the US audience?
>>33752154Tragic that they have to lie to keep you people tame I know, they lie to you because they don't trust you that you won't go ape sheit at the mention of something you don't find to your liking. Welcome to the real world kiddo!
>>33752326It's stuff they could always go to the JP server and get. Fauna is just building stuff cuz she can't think of anything else to do to kill time while playing Minecraft solo.
>>33751861FUCKING BAE YOU PIECE OF SHIT YOU TOOK AWAY IRYS,S VIEWERS AND NOW THE UNICORNS ARE GONNA LOSE
>>33752187Why so mad anon? She just saying good morningPerhaps you are a tsundere?
>>33752342nowhere, is more a unwritten rule, so there is nothing realy stopping them
>>33752342on tempust debut
>>33751695that's the whole fucking point
>>33752405Based, ENfags allowed this.
>>33752402Kind of surprised one of the JPs hasn't reached out to tell Tempus to cut it out yet. JP fans are starting to realize how badly EN is corrupted and it won't take much for them to start pre-empting any changes to the JP side by anti-ing the Stars.
>>33752342Tempus did say at the beginning that they were not looking to initiate collabs with Hololive senpais unless they get asked.Waiting for anon to give a timestamp for >Confirmed by Zetabecause I'll be surprised they broke that rule. So far, every homo collab has been female initiated.
>>33752344>wanting number during EN meme hourskek retard
HoloEN unity is dead and its Tempiss' fault. HoloEN box is no more.
>>33752446Koyo is female dog so....
>>33752458Where at? Timestamp? Clip? Dramatic reenactment?
>>33751695No shit sherlock
>>33752266What games do EN like really? Which ones are a bigger buff for EN audience than JP? Honestly it feels like EN audience doesn't really want to watch gaming streams that much
>>33752444>could always go to the JP serverthat's why she is doing the farms, so they don't have to
>>33752154read this retard >>33752508
>>33752402>>33752501you're asking too much of westerners if you expect them to think about what the consequences of their actions are for other people