/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>52,693: Fubuki (Hololive)
>43,222: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,762: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,194: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>21,741: Korone (Hololive)
>20,649: Haachama (Hololive)
>20,599: Tachibana (VSPO)
>18,236: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,715: Lui (Hololive)
>15,807: Salome (Nijisanji)
>15,380: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,503: Okayu (Hololive)
>14,488: Ame (Hololive)
>13,032: Flare (Hololive)
>12,975: GatchmanV (Indie)
>12,340: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>12,316: Lui (Hololive)
>12,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>11,230: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,348: Runa (VSPO)
>10,032: Luna (Hololive)
>10,020: Tamaki (NoriPro)

What did we learn in the last thread?

>>33743051
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order

>PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
2x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Ayame, Marine
1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
170x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
17x: Miko
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>52,693: Fubuki (Hololive)
>43,222: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,762: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,194: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>21,741: Korone (Hololive)
>20,649: Haachama (Hololive)
>20,599: Tachibana (VSPO)
>18,236: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,715: Lui (Hololive)
>15,807: Salome (Nijisanji)
>15,380: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,503: Okayu (Hololive)
>14,488: Ame (Hololive)
>13,032: Flare (Hololive)
>12,975: GatchmanV (Indie)
>12,340: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>12,316: Lui (Hololive)
>12,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>11,230: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,348: Runa (VSPO)
>10,032: Luna (Hololive)
>10,020: Tamaki (NoriPro)

>JP declining
>EN declining
>ID declining
>Hololive declining
>Nijisanji declining
>Vshojo declining
>Holostars declining
>Indies declining
>Mini Corpos declining
>Pippa inclining
This is what I've gathered from this thread, if taken at face value.

We love Gura here, there's no room to debate this.

>>33743006
Why Flare?

marine > pekora

>>33743052
Salome reclined but we already knew that

Tempus was a mistake

>>33743052
Ame x Regis x Kronii threesome

/news/ roundup for 21-09-2022
>>33709109
Recent clip numbers
>>33699829
>>33699859
>>33700466
>>33700501

>>33743052
/#/ is unusable when drama tourists raid the thread

>>33743051
>>33743073

>>33743052
/#/ is declining

>>33743085
This is true except for the "JP declining" part.

I'm watching Destiny's stream and another big youtuber is there (someordinarygamer aka muta) and they said that Youtube is changing the revenue for youtube shorts to pay out WAY more than what they're doing now.

I wonder if any vtubers will try to approach it after that happens. A quick buck is a quick buck

>>33743160
Hey man

No one from holoen will joke about graduation

>>33743006
Finally, Mori can start getting fully mogged by every numerical metric from the HoloJPs, instead of just mostly mogged.

>>33743085
>JP declining
Anon? Did you not see the 90k FGO stream?

>>33743052
People want to have sex in the numbers thread.

>solo stream get shit number
>collabs with girl get shit number
>collabs with male get good number
Frequent collabs tend to lead to the above result but we will have to see
If it really turns out like above then it means the Nijification has completed
Based on the what we know about the trend in nijisanji, we can expect off collabs next

>>33743052
that apparently 13,678 is bad now?

>>33743051
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko
1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
168x: Hololive
85x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
34x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>

/#/ is plateauing

>>33743085
>JP declining
ENsharts wish this be the case.

>>33743178
NijiEN already spams shorts and HoloEN's official channel is trying (and not really succeeding) in doing in the same.
Honestly, it's easy content to make and has arguably higher virality potential than clips so more people should try it.

>>33743217
In 2021 that would've been bigger than Coco's graduation.

>>33743237
And 16k is also terrible somehow

September events

Hololive
16) Subaru anniversary, Moona 3D debut
17) Iofi 3D debut
18) Risu 3D debut, Gura 3D live
20) HoloID mini 3D live

Nijisanji
16) Kuzuhacup
17) Kuzuhacup
18) CRcup (Kuzuha)
28) Kuzuhaday
30) Nijifes fantasia

>>33743178
aogiri high school https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPLeqi7rIqS9uY4_TrSUOMg

>>33743351
No more event's from holo then?

>shitpost that targets everyone in Vtubing
>the only people who get mad about it are people defending JP
Why is this

>>33743085
>JP declining
JP is stronger than ever. It's going to incline even more with the flood of EN refugees getting away now that their branch is officially #woke

>>33743228
Looks like HoloEN audience prefer Nijisanji style, I think they gonna do off-collab in the next few months.

>gura after ame slapped her in the face
Gura is so scared of ame she refuses to play rust once again

>>33743228
Maybe blue boy can fuck Kronii's depression away

>>33743407
Because is the only thing factually wrong, retard.

>>33742896
says akua, mea, yumeoi kakeru, kanda soichi, and belmond on there

>>33743249
Truly vile bevahior playing with someone's feelings.

>>33743329
Unless Kronii got like 40k on that stream, they would've stuck to the script that drama buff should've turbobuffed it.
No number would've satisfied them, ignoring that 16k + 7k at 4pm PST is really high for HoloEN.

bots

>>33743052
numbers don't actually matter, because people have narratives first and then insist that the numbers support it no matter what

>>33743521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE

selamat pagi and magandang umaga

>>33743430
Nothingburger btw.

>>33743407
JP fags have always been like this.

>>33743464
Aqua is the only buff. Also kys crossposter

>>33743085
Pippa inclining thanks to furry Romanian. Also try watch some Kawaii, they are now low 3view.

>>33743546
he's broken the code, now you can graduate from this thread

>>33743237
>that apparently 13,678 is bad now?
Please don't pretend she wasn't pulling 30k streams like a month or two ago

>>33737524
Wait Gura has 25k member?

>>33743558
100,000 more and it will reach 3M...

>ENsharts have no counter-arguments and have resort to bait
Why are they always like this?

how am I still getting bites on a clear ritualpost? Will tourists respond to 'hey man' too now?

>>33743237
Not a Salome doomposter that's using her debut week numbers, but 13k is one of her weakest performances and the trend of decline is very notable.
It's not a bad number in isolation, but for Salome, it's definitely not good. Like shit, Gura won't be getting 13k on TLoU.

>>33743653
Anon?

>>33743653
Abayo..

>>33743580
I know it's a minority of them, but it's still always funny how they can't even take being part of a joke that's about literally everyone

>>33743653
based

>>33743653

>>33743653
Me on the right

>>33743178
it's basically the music labels moving off tiktok to yt
the new shorts monetization is designed by the the music label. they get first dips of revenue from shorts in exchange for creators having similar pop-music library like on tiktok to use for making shorts. it's there to promote pop-music just like how they used to pay tiktok to get new releases go viral on there.

>>33743590
My dragon wife is almost 5k, I'm happy for her.

>>33743432
>19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order
>20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order
>21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order
Can we agree on removing FGO from tally? They are more cheat than Rust at prime month, it makes the race less interesting

>>33743052

>>33743752
I've seen one of her streams.
She's good at singing while playing piano

Time for some numbers
https://youtu.be/4WCUqrsTcHM?t=3562
How much fanart will we get of Kronii fucking her dog after this?

>I was only pretending to be retarded, I swear guys
ENkeks, everyone.

thanks for all the /#/ anons who helped Otsuka get to 6k after a 7 hour endurance stream yesterday

>>33743866
Your shitposts are weak, but your persistence is certainly striking.

>>33743769
Trade offer:
>Niji remove koshien
>Holo remove fgo
deal?

>>33743866
anon please get some help

Numbers if they collab?

>>33743407
>be wrong
>but why are you guys telling me I'm wrong
Kek

>>33743937
Based

>>33743752
My horsewife has no singing talent but at least she works hard

>>33743856
Oh you almost got me to click it and give it a view, you sneaky sod

>>33743827
This used to work way better when Stars struggled to get to 1k.
Would it take someone from StarsEN to overtake someone in HoloEN for you to admit that some people watch them?

>>33743937
You really want to see this through don't you?

>>33743953
It was wrong for lots of other people, but you don't see them bitching about it, huh

>>33743939
16,478

>>33743939
wrong thread homobeggar

>>33743856
Already 5 at least from last /infi/

>>33743752
>Orange girl and green fauna are the runts of the gen
I've seen this before

>>33743939
God why are they both so fucking hot, on the surface they don't seem to have a lot of chemistry but who knows, maybe she'll pull a kronii two face

>>33744011
go back to hlgg

>>33738425
Said the one making a low quality post.
>>33738435
Did you not get what I'm said?
>>33738535
Are you too?
>>33738631
And? Most phones nowadays are more powerful and useful than computers that are literal waste of space for what they offer instead being small like phones.
>>33738655
You are too dumb to understand that there is nothing to worry you schizophrenic schizo, it's only you nijifags shitposting her because she's too fragile and you want to cancel hololive.
>>33738732
>Subaru
>Tourist central
roru rumao
Explain that 20k+ people watching her zatsudan every Saturday's morning? Or her 15k+ watchalongs? Meanwhile Miko's peak at 5k on unculled Twitch. Subaru fanbase is faithful and they'll watch every thing she does and Subaru is the Queen of Story Games and on that timelost.
>>33738957
You're a sad nijifag.

>>33743998
don't worry, if the blue faggot is any indication, they're gonna match their senpais soon

>>33744040
go back to twitter

fuck the ajnnies

How much did kronii got so called drama buff?

>>33743752
wasn't expecting the westaboo indo to have the highest subs of the gen.

>>33744011
Not begging if they both love each other, they a karaoke duet

>>33743752
Damn the subcount exactly reflects my impression of them. I like Oceane and Miryu the most.

>>33744036
Why do you guys keep saying Fauna is the runt

>>33744063
Your dedication is appreciated

>>33744044
holy shit unironically kys

>>33744044
kys crossposter

>>33744036
Funny thing is that the orange one gets the most donations

>>33744090
kys homobeggar

>when you peak in the waiting room
Tourists doko?

>>33744063
at least there are genitals this time around, abayo for just titty is weaksauce

>>33744053
Seeing as Regis is still getting 4views with ep 7 of Zelda and Gungeon, I wouldn't bet on it.

It's unironically over for unicorn culture. Now that the management and talent themselves saw this big number, they gonna double down on this path
>b-but the niji example, isn't it a failure?
Hard to say, the number, boost and positivity of it are all very visible while the negative are very subtle and difficult to prove as they could be attributed to a variety of reasons and factors. This place might be the only place that contemplate this possibility.
Do you think they will listen to some shitposter on an anonymous board more than the ten of thousand of twitter user? You can't even produce concrete evidence for it

>>33744044
kys crossposter

>>33744036
I feel like the term "runt" is literally meaningless when the sum total of all of their subscribers is literally a margin of error on a Holo or Niji's sub numbers. that could be wiped out by Susan on accident without anyone really noticing.

>>33744062
this is numbers thread holokek
if your feeling is so fragile, you're in the wrong thread

>>33744038
I mean, teacucks are drawn to abusive relationship, theyll love getting cucked ruru

>>33744168
wrong thread and wrong life homobeggar

everyone talks about cultivating a good audience and how the kroniies are all schizos but like

how do you cultivate a good audience of schizos, like haatons, and not a schizo audience of schizos, like everyone else?

>>33744143
>this big number
>15k

>>33744119
Gunpla autists have money to spare

>>33744044
>Or her 15k+ watchalongs?
The 15k during watchalongs are clearly tourists retardchama. That's not a slight on Subaru, she's made a name for herself as a reaction based vtuber, people tune in to see her reactions.

>Meanwhile Miko's peak at 5k on unculled Twitch
Because she's not getting tourists like Subaru does...How do you look at the data and come to the exact opposite conclusion of where it points? Subaru getting 15k for Code Geass doesn't show that her fans are more dedicated it shows she gets a lot of crossover from non-vtubing audiences who like to see normie reactions to otaku stuff.

>>33744140
>h-he still getting 4 views after a f-funnel
holy shit lmao

>>33744126
Reddit only shows up for the mixed collab

>>33743642
Probably more. that’s only chatting on that video member.

>>33744174
After today I am convinced that Kronies are similar to teamates. Kronii is insufferable.

>>33744053
Tempus is unironically cockroaches. Always reaching 4 view

SO
Who should I blame for the state of this thread rn?

>>33744243
>dumbass doesn't know Regis always stars first and almost never gets funnels
At least check on vrabi before posting something retarded.

>>33744215
haatons aren't schizos anon

>>33743909
>>33743932
Don't start baiting If you can't handle it retards, maybe look into a mirror before calling out everyone you don't agree with as shitposting.
>>33743085

>>33744215
Literally impossible, never gonna happen. Unless you craft the perfect persona but that's not fun

>>33744268
kronii is mori/ame tier for me now
it's crazy how im just fine with bae despite her wanting to fuck ojisans

>>33744268
Kronii is at least kind and considerate with kroniies. Ame is toxic as fuck

>>33744293
everyone

>>33744215
They're just more well-behaved because Haachama does a lot of fan-submission stuff, otherwise they're just as nuts as every other schizo group if left alone for too long.

>>33744044
meds now

>>33743939
i cum buckets imagining regis putting his entire 10 inch cock on ame's ass, making her unable to walk for days

>>33744293
From glances, /hlgg/ enjoyed the collab and it's been well received by just about everywhere except /#/ for whatever reason and /infinity/
Really makes you think

>>33743052
Nothing

>>33744293
SoCal

>>33744215
>how do you cultivate a good audience of schizos
Step One: Have decent content to attract decent people (not in terms of morals, in terms of quality)
Step Two: Have a set of standards that you adhere to and enforce in your audience to filter out the shit ones.
Step Three: Never admit weakness. Insane Schizophrenics feast on weakness. If you give them weakness, they go bad like fruit in the sun.
Step Four: Reward good Schizos with attention to cultivate that kind of person in your fanbase.
Step Five: Always Double Down.

>>33744143
Oh shit twitter likes!

>>33744402
I ship, they are meant to be

>>33743642
No, that's 25k MEMBER MESSAGES. There's 4k members who messaged throughout that Live though.

>twitter likes
holoen unironically turning into nijien holy shit

>male collab is a debuff
clearly not, and it has been proven again and again
get the rope holokek

>>33744318
Again, weak shitpost game, but hardcore persistence.

>>33744040
/hlgg/
hlgg is either being raided or it's already homobeggar central

So how NIJI EN doing today?

>>33744406
What, I check /infi/ and it's alright, bestiality not withstanding

>>33744406
The fact that people were doomposting a 16k non-Gura stream hours before NA primetime should be a clear sign that the thread was overtaken by dramaniggers and tourists.

>>33744406
Yea, 'cause we're getting raided by a bunch of shitposting faggots and samefagging idiots. It was fine, a bit cringe, but otherwise 'fine'.

>>33744483
Speedrun from "Cringe + L + ratio parasocial fucks" to becoming a 3 view like Finana when

>>33744515
who?

>>33744516
Timesmut....

>>33744485
holy seethe trannychama

>>33744007
Please take your meds already.

>>33743249
So Mumei and Bae's duet cover is doing better than Mori? Ame's half-joking King cover is doing better than Mori?
You love to see it.

>>33744485
>fauna higher than 3 homo combined
Hontoni?

>Came back to Ina 8k drawing stream
Oh, wow what the fuck did you guys do? Is this shit actually happening? What is that like her 3rd or 2nd lowest drawing stream? Will everyone in holoEN gonna keep breaking their worst number record soon?

So the shitposting is almost certainly because both Global and Cripple Golds were utter stompfests this month, right?

>>33744215
Kronii's audience is schizo because she gave her schizos special attention. If you ignore schizos and attention whores they will go away.

>>33744515
Too weak, not worthy to discuss about 'em

>>33744215
anon? have you not seen what haatons are like when haachama isn't around?

>>33744483
Why are people even paying attention to that? Isn't Niji twitter enough to prove that twitter likes don't amount to viewers at all?

>>33744485
AIIIIEEE MY PRIESTESS , MY GREEN WHORE! TASKETEEE

Number is king. Vesper/kronii collab gets good numbers = good collab.

>>33744600
She started 1 hour earlier, i doubt it breaks 10k still

Reminder that the only people sperging out about this are nijiniggers feeling threatened that hololive is also better at them at doing fun male-female collabs and desperately wishing to reverse the trend.

>>33744628
They were so close yesterday too but lost to a 4 min shitpost

How's Noctyx been doing lately, anyways?

>>33744628
i think the domination drove away at least 1-2 niji "regulars" but the rest went stealth mode with culture war, EN v JP and other variations of branch v branch

of course the resident shitposters love to trendhop so they're eating it up

>>33744707
it's not like there's any people that actually just dislike coed surely

>>33744654
As everyone remembers from the Febuary 24th Incident, Hololive is influenced entirely by twitter likes and opinions, which is why they hired Rushia back and apologized profusely.

>>33744654
people scramble to use whatever they can to support their arguments anon, no matter how shameless it looks to everyone else

>>33744546
so this is what it's come to, disliking this change after 2years of good times means you are a shitposting faggot

>>33744714
reclining like most niji en

>>33743998
>This used to work way better when Stars struggled to get to 1k.
That was yesterday, anon.

>>33744678
Yeah, that chart struggled to reach there. It's a negative sign if they keep breaking their worst record. Hopefully it doesn't happen more.

>>33744293
Twitter burgers. Posting style is reflective of twitterfags, especially holokek spammer.

>>33744363
>Kronii is at least kind and considerate with kroniies
Really? She backstabbed them multiple times over the last month. But I have no idea what happen behind the mengen though.

>HoloEN is dying
>NijiEN is reclining
>Vshojo is reclining
>Twitch is dying
EN market...

I love that nijisis and schizos cheering for holostars now. Is this yagoo plan all along?

>>33744801
didn't shien body most/all of nijiEN yesterday?

>>33744642
Basically. Kronii cultivated her audience from the beginning to be like that; coddled them for a year and then all of a sudden told them to fuck off.

>>33744642
i would feel bad for Gabe if he wasn't such a battered wife and retard schizo, at least alfred fucked off for good when he knew he was alone

>>33744485
>only male collabs get you over 10k
what a time for holoen

>>33744834
More a case of "before all this nonsense started" than reflective of the current situation I assume?

>>33744868
I meant, that Regis struggled to reach 1K. That was yesterday.

>>33744628
I believe there's a few people who are genuinely seething that homo collabs are still getting good numbers, but HoloEN solo stream numbers are not looking so good in Sept. Fuels their obsession with the "culture war".

>>33744765
nobody cares what you like or dislike, this is for numbers and the faggots that try to obfuscate them because they can’t handle what they’re seeing should get the rope

>>33744868
Shien didn't body NijiEN.
Artoria bodied them.

>>33744835
If everything is reclining, then that means nobody is.

WTF happen to fauna's number? Some overlap her or something?

>>33744215
Anon there's literally one thing you have to do and that is to treat your audience like a collective. Fauna does this, every single "Happy Birthday" she says "dear sapling" no matter how big or small the amount of money is given and the only time you hear her say a name is when she is reading out the name to say thank you in a superchat or if they're a known artist, which she then thanks them for their art.

It's NOT difficult. Actively calling people out in chat by name not in superchat readings is something she would occasionally do which fucks things up.

>>33743769
no

>33744707
he's still trying

Spooky's Cumpscare Mansion...

>>33744406
This place doomposted Gura's live while hlgg was creaming itself.
That Nijifag who said this thread was full of antis was half right. But it's not just NijiEN antis, it's also full of HoloEN antis.

everything is going according great my fellow hololive fans, we just need a few more collabs and we'll be done with idol culture forever
how about we get some collabs with the lazulight girls after

>>33744847
it's obvious Tempus is being used by nijifags as a trojan horse, i feel bad for who just want to enjoy the boys

>>33745008
I miss that nigga Vox Akuma like you wouldn't believe

>>33744923
that's not what anon said though he was talking about how well recieved it was. the numbers weren't exactly mindblowing considering the amount of buffs

>>33745015
>This place doomposted Gura's live while hlgg was creaming itself.
hlgg very rarely dislike stream unless they're actually awful. They're not a meter for anything.

>>33744922
>>33744801
>1 out of 4 struggled to get 1k with ep 4 of a debuff game
>All of them have 2k+ medians/averages
The fact that he even got to 1k on that shit already means the meme has lost its luster.

>>33744765
Disliking change, /#/ really isn't the place to talk about that in the middle of the stream really. Not when there are so many damned tourists around.

>>33745072
They're a meter for Hololive fans.

>>33745072
Even when they're awful they won't dislike a stream and if you actually try to say your opinion they'll get mad and call you an anti.

>>33745015
The live numbers were underwhelming

Holy fuck this is the lowest for Ame. Looks like the transition for more males is working well, nice job

>>33744961
She was overlapped by the Kronii and Noir collab, and by the time they finished she barely got the funnel before she finished the game.

What's the status for Pekora's monkey

>>33745141
nigger it's her millionth mario

Did homobeggars just pulled the twitter likes card?

>>33744740
Dislike it all you want, it's getting good numbers and the only reason anyone will shit on it here is because they're frightened that HoloEN is about to render Nijisanji irrelevant.

>>33745105
so is /hlgg/ just reddit central?

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1572752750643154951
HoloX Halloween merch

>>33745141
the stream is lagging a lot

>>33745163
Currently announcing the nuke war.

Jesus there are just so many similarities between early NijiJP and HoloEN. Remember Mito used to call out gachikois and chased them away. That dodgeball incident was really something else. I wonder if the history will repeat with HoloEN and how EN fags gonna react. Maybe HomostarEN will rising to become NijiJP of the West, maybe HoloEN girls is gonna fading away being 1k - 2k streamer except Gura being Sanbaka tier. No one can tell what will happen.

>>33745141
it's the fucking cull you retard, it's also a debuff game you ape

>>33745071
>amount of buffs
Since when are homo collabs big buffs for HOLOLIVE?
Fubuki and Matsuri have shown that male collabs are numbers poison for years.
>inb4 drama buff when numbers are good for all the other collabs that weren't drama-fueled

>>33745164
Her sc reading stream recently is all time lowest.

>>33745180
always has been

>>33745184
Iroha in a Millie Parfait outfit with Pomu color scheme

>what did they mean by this?

>>33745180
They're hobbyists on a hobby board in a thread dedicated to the thing they like, anon, what the fuck do you think it's gonna be.
Shitting on a Holo stream in the Holo thread is like going to a Black Clover thread on /a/ and trying to shit on their manga, or any other manga in that case, really, point is, no one goes to a thread for something they don't like to talk about it.

>>33745184
New song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1yXDcuwzpY

>>33745148
Jesas holoEN box is so small. 1 overlap and the usual number drops.

>>33745184
ToT

>>33743939
20k teacucks watching this

>>33745071
Actual unicorn cope

so non male collab girls (except kiara, her timeslot is dogshit) would be overlapped by male approved collab girls for HoloEN going forward?

>>33744961
Was wondering about this, usually I'd play it off as her playing a crappy horror game, but what if the Kronii drama made it so that the whole GFE scene started being seen as a negative thing in Hololive and people subconsciously start avoiding GFE Vtubers like Gura, Fauna and Mumei, after all their last solo streams didn't do what they would usually do in their regular numbers.

Aka what If instead of Kronii reclining because her Unicorns left her, GFE Vtubers get affected more because regular viewers now see the whole GFE behavior as something that's looked down on the community and will avoid that.

>>33745164
Funny how there's always an excuse, no wonder they never improve.

>>33745075
>of a debuff game
Ame streamed the game twice and got over 15K every single time, back when her median was much lower than that. Half life VR have showed no evidence of being a debuff game.

>>33745184

>>33745184

Why are all of the shitposts being made with the most fucking terrible english I've ever read

>>33745236
trust Omega's plan, destroying cute girls because he can't be one

>>33745247
A lot of it is novelty, but I wonder if it'll just end up replacing one segment of HoloEN's audience that would tune in to daily streams with a bunch of fucking event tourists. That would be grim and not worth the fucking tradeoff at all.

>>33744847
the ones shitting on the stars are the nijis you retard

>>33745348
>>33745353
HOLY SEX (minus Lap)

>>33745141
The way Ame streams is a debuff

>>33745243
>Cull cope in September of 2022
Rumao, there's people still clinging to that meme?

>>33745291
Thats hot, we need more art. Maybe a threesome with Kronii too

>>33745279
It's a pretty bad comparaison, you can go to the BC thread on /a/ and shit on ONE chapter, because it wasn't that good or something. You can do the same for a stream, maybe the stream wasn't that good, or anything. In /hlgg/ no matter the stream, no matter the content, you will find approval.

>>33745353
Kek, Iroha = Millie + Pomu

>>33745236
So are you telling me that holostar will get their own kuzuha and toya? That's good.

>>33745348
Anyone planning to get a new outfit for Halloween?

>>33745418
vox and selen are the only EN vtubers with confirmed culls, but you can safely extend it to all of nijiEN.

>>33745390
faggot

>>33745348
why is millie in holox now?

>>33745348
Man they project manager is the best

>>33745364
Take a wild guess.

It took a huge fucking drama for Tempiss to finally get some views. Every day I keep seeing them more as a literal tumor feeding off everything good from Hololive than actual cool guys trying their best-

>>33745348
>>33745353
lui-nee my beloved

>>33745184
please give lui this outfit for real

>>33745247
since twitter wants to own the unicorn boogeyman, let's hope they stick around for normal streams

>>33745280
Back when Holo still collabed with indies.

>>33745364
Maybe you should try to improve your grammar before posting.

>>33745489
That's because you don't take your meds

>>33745489
boomer vs zoomer basically had the same views and it wasn't drama related anon...

>>33745442
It's easy to explain that when you consider the fact that, if your oshi is the one streaming, you just like seeing them on-screen at all. And global is the thread where people who love watching their oshi go to talk about them, for the majority of EN viewers and a decent chunk of JP/ID, too. So of course they're going to like it.

>>33745489
PEKORA MONKEY PEKORA MONKEY YOU IS PEKORA MONKEY PEKORA NONKEYYUUYY

>>33745532
>Twitter
>Stick around long term
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Please, sir, may I have another joke?

>>33745236
Honestly, the dodgeball offpako incident just showed how unhinged JP nijifags truly are. It makes no sense to me why you would attack a bunch of low view shitters because of Holo's meteoric rise. If anything, they should have asked for Riku's head on a pike

>>33745379
Considering Mori, Kronii, and Ame killed their numbers all the time even before homos even debuted, I don't see how it's any worse than what they were already doing before.
How many more collabs until the novelty excuse wears off? Their 5th one like Kobo and Regis?

So what would be the number for holo en girls that would convince you and say "okay the male debuff shit is happening". Sub 5k,sub 3k? Maybe sub 2k? Or will En people just start announcing another cull when that happens?,

>>33745184
>7 eleven
sugoi

>>33745570
If they had the same views, but also had a drama "buff," then that means either one of two things:
>the drama buff made up for the drop that would've been there without it, comparatively
or
>there was no drama buff, and all the shit around it from twitter and /vt/ and the like produced almost exactly no new viewers to "support" it
Either one is interesting, from a purely number perspective.

>>33745657
EN has a cull of 90% of their CCV, cope all you want

some of you should've been culled in the womb

>>33745339
Please

>>33745633
>Their 5th one like Kobo and Regis
Which got shit numbers, I'm not sure what's the argument is

>>33745478
I don't want STD

>>33745657
Lower than their normal numbers, for starters?

>>33745184
SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX

>>33745702
You have a point.

>>33745710
So Like Ina?

Bae>Kronii

>>33745184
>>33745348

>>33745756
oof

>>33745694
Yeah so it took the 5th collab for numbers to start dropping off.
Does this mean that every Tempus collab until the 5th+ one doesn't count because it's a novelty buff? You know novelty collab buffs usually last less than 2 streams right?

>>33745688
You mean 6 gorillion percent anon.

>>33745353
Lui my beloved

>>33745768
Literally everyone in Hololive is better than Kronii at this point.

>>33745687
Honestly, I prefer the second option, purely based on how inoffensive previous collabs have been ...

>>33745686
theyve captured all major convenience store collabs lol
>family mart
>lawson
>7-eleven <---- new

Is it feasible to groom a nijiEN yet, are they on that level, numberwise? Any of them?

>>33745353
holy shit Chloe, my dikkkkkkkkk

>>33745856
I mean you can always join the Finana grooming group.

>>33745756
Ina hasn't even done any collabs so how would that even be a useful data point? And also vs her last drawing stream in like...May. No you would need a consistent series of comparable streams to show some change before and after collabs.

>>33745856
Finana, Reimu, Aia, Scarle. Take your pick

>>33745856
You have to be Discord mods to groom them anon, normal paypigs like Kronies won't cut it anymore

>>33745856
Nah still too big

>>33745419
We need more Tempiss x EN fanarts to piss the girls off so they'll stop collabing

>>33745856
Why are you not a valoguard yet?

>>33745710
Have you looked Mori's numbers lately

>>33745687
Time slot for this collab was much shittier than the Bae x Vesper collab and the premise is also less interesting.
This also peaked 2k higher with tougher overlap.

>>33745856 save Aia.
you can fix her from the wokeness, saviorfag material

>>33745823
>Literally everyone in Hololive is better than Kronii at this point.
Pretty much. She lost the goodwill that allowed her to be a lazy slacker and now people are going to expect her to be entertaining to maintain her viewership and income...which she isn't going to be able to do.

>>33745792
First, Kobo only did 3 one on one with Regis, not 5. And the numbers steadily dropped all the way through.
12K> 7K8>5K3

Irys is an embarrassment to Hololive.

>>33745856
Saviorfagging the ones who are likely to have a boyfriend, and fucked by a male niji. Save yourself anon

>>33745348

Lui is sex as always and Iroha as Millie is funny overall Lui out sex them all.

>>33745984
She's going to keep her income.

>>33745989
She's only an embarrassment because of her retarded "always late with eight minute load times"

>>33746003
I didn't say "save." I said "groom."

>>33745988
>Ignoring the game choice went from Valorant to fucking Phogs

>>33745617
I think Iwanaga was still in charge of Nijisanji at that time, the guy who's now consulting for VShojoJP.

>>33745989
Basically yeah

>>33745903
Anon... dont say it loudly next time, get the hint lol

>>33746048
And the two last streams are the same game, and the numbers are still dropping.

Not sure why you guys are still shitposting about a collab that lost 75% of its 10 minute peak in an hour- this graph is NijiEN tier

>>33745884
>her last drawing stream in like...May
1. Rarity should've helped it
2. The only cases where Ina goes in this bad of a number in her drawing streams are either (a. very specific topic of drawing, and b. hard overlaps) The current stream doesn't fall in those two cases.
3. Also it's lack of collab doesn't mean she can't be affected by the shitshow, for all we know the HoloEN box shrinked its ass of because of this entire retarded drama.

>>33745856
Not if you're fucking, no. You need a really small indie streamer who will be impressed with $50 every week. If you want to groom someone with an 800 viewer average you need to be dropping a lot of cash to get noticed. And then it'll only be low hanging fruit like Aia and maybe Reimu. Finana already has too many groomers to even get started with.

>>33746082

>>33745792
>5th
anon basically all of them but the first have been super mediocre

>>33746078
The numbers are dropping because Kobo and Regis's viewers have gone back to school you idiot

>>33746044
You cant groom a slut. Might as well go onlyfans

>collab with Shoto
>still 2k
literally how??
sure its not CN prime time, but surely uki can get 4k-5k or more at best with shoto buff

>>33746078
>Expecting the same number on Kobo's channel and Regis's channel on part 2 of a collab
You're really fucking stupid, you know that?

>>33746082
Yeah wow, I sure hope they thought that's worth it lol.

>>33745973
Jesas, why isn't she fired yet?

>>33746131
>You cant groom a slut
Factually incorrect
If anything, it's easier to do that than to groom a normal girl

Who holds the global gold today?
The Cunnysseur?

>>33745989
You should watch and promote her instead of complaining here.

>>33746133
They're watching Shoto's POV. Why would they care about Uki?

>>33746082
Why is this the first time I've ever seen someone do this. It's so dumb yet so obviously useful for shitposting.

>>33746201
Maybe a broken woman. Thats how I fucked a christian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-cz0tSbEjo
Magni's about to dive bomb in another horrible section of the Internet again ...

>>33746245
>useful for shitposting.
Because it's not? No one gives a shit about a flipped graph anon

>>33746245
The checkmark pattern makes it too obvious.

>>33746200
>Who holds the global gold today?
>The Cunnysseur?
For now.

>>33746133
He peaked 3.5k before the overlaps started, that's slightly above his solo Valorant (3.1k).

>>33746224
>6k
Honestly not too good for Shoto either.

https://twitchtracker.com/shxtou/streams/41299051883

>>33746379
Thanks, homie.

>>33745967
On the other hand, this was on Kronii's channel and the other collab on Vesper's. I'm on the faction of thinking it's not a big deal in the long term, but guess we have to wait for more data.

>>33745988
Kobo is reclining, you can't blame that on Regis

>>33746396
Yeesh, that really isn't great at all.
Vtubing really is fucking dying in EN isn't it.

>>33746092
Kronii was on track to hit 20k for a glorified chatting stream, if anything the drama has increased the box

>>33746092
>pick any random stream that got lower than it possibly could have and ascribe it to general miasma of people not liking male collabs
>ignore everyone other stream, including actual male collabs, that might be inconvenient to your thesis

That's proper statistical analysis right there.

so is kronii drama is nothing burger or it will affect the branch as whole? im retarded

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572677922091311106
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572677922091311106
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572677922091311106

Another song release
With "Someone"

>>33746431
The collab itself? Eh Whatever.
The retarded drama and shitflinging that's going on? Might have a long-term effect, but it'll be on the scale of month+ of data before we can even say if that's truly the case.

>>33746445
Her recline began on homo collabs, unfortunately

Is it useful data to point out that, as someone who works in an elementary school in America, I've seen one person mention Nijisanji, but no people mention Hololive?
The one person was an immigrant from South East Asia, I forget if it was Vietnam or Malaysia.

>>33746474
It's not going to affect the branch much but it's going to take a couple of months to see how the homo collabs affect the pro-homo girls.

>>33746316
What if you took a Vox stream and flipped it to make it look like it was increasing over time?

>>33746431
As always, the game content will have a bigger effect on Kronii's numbers than the loss of unicorns/gain of homobeggars.
If she streams minecraft or Rust next week, she's gonna get 12k+. If she revisits The Last Campfire, she'll be lucky to get 5k.

This actually reminded me that Kronii said she would start Rust in S3 and it's already almost the end of the month.

>>33746508
She talked about it last member stream, it's Ironmouse. Libra Hell or something like that.

>>33743053
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>33746445
She's becoming the kind of bratty that isn't endearing and just makes you want to stop watching her.

>>33746474
>branch as a whole
nothing is effected, aside from Cover insisting that the girls have "a right to shape their content how they desire," which is really phrased to give both groups in this retard fight a perceived victory without actually changing or doing anything.
>Kronii
probably won't be good for her long-term, but short term, hard to measure, and anyone trying to guess what the actual effect will be is pulling shit out of their asses, it's all guesswork.

>>33746474
So far it looks like it's inclining the branch. HoloEN fans who were bored by seeing nothing but women and got lured away by NijiEN mixed gender collabs are coming home.

>>33746459
only for select streams

Stfu about the collab. It's an underperformance compared to boomer vs zoomer. It was on Kronii's channel and it had drama buff and tons of greyname tourists. Wait until you see Kronii's solo numbers. I guarantee you she will recline from this just like Mori. The Mori recline didn't happen immediately either.

>>33746520
Keep believing that unicorn, kobo reclined because people are already bored of her and her vulgar speak

>>33746613
Really? I would've put my bet on the Watame song but I guess both people fit her description.

Many here expect a drop in numbers for Kronii after the whole fiasco, but has there been any event comparable to it which directly lead to the decline of a chuuba? Nyanners comes into mind with her boyfriend controversy but reportedly she streamed less after that, which is a huge factor for recline in Twitch. The "improve yourself" bit from Finana also comes into mind but there doesn't seem to be any significant change in viewership for her. So, what's the evidence that Kronii will further decline by the next few weeks?

>>33746519
No it's not a useful data point but it's an interesting anecdote. Did they mention a specific streamer?

>>33746653
anon?

>>33746664
>comparing a 3 pm PST collab to a 7 pm PST collab

ngmi newfagnon

>>33746681
She already made a song with Watame, no?

>>33746474
Nothing burger. Just falseflag fanning the flame while adding oil at the same time.

>>33746519
>Elementary schoolers watching Nijis
Who did they mention? Anyway, single data points aren't useful for analysis.

>>33746508
Miguel gato

>>33746520
Kobo literally just got 14k on RE8 11 days ago, but I guess she's dying because her zoomer fans don't want to watch her play Story of fucking Seasons.

>>33746698
None, just unicorn wishful thinking.

>>33746664
THE MORI RECLINE WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS PLAYING JRPGS YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER

>>33746474
If Kronii makes an effort to change her image to something that can do well without parasocial fans, she'll do fine. If she continues to do the same shit, she's going to be fucked long-term.

>>33746078
You mean the subsequent stream usually gets lower number than the first stream? Say it ain't so
Are you gonna tell me Pekora second FGO stream CCV is approximately 9% lower than the first stream too?

>>33746474
OG fans were bleeding anyways, this might give them an influx of new fans

I mean look at NijiEN already out of content and declining slowly despite new members

>>33746665
Look at this homobeggar ditching Kobo just to prove a point. Pathetic shameful display.

>>33746562
so it's nothingburger, just usual business.
most pro homo girls love to debuff themselves anyway (beside bae which seems to start caring for her content a bit)

>>33746664
>if
>when
Would it kill you oraclefags to wait for the data to come out and then make your conclusions from there

iluna is inclining

>>33746698
There is none, people are just shitposting. However Kronii has already dropped off a lot over time by being erratic and generally mistreating her fanbase and extended casual audience well before this stuff.

>>33746711
>>33746747
No, just that they knew about them as "Minecraft."
Kindergartner, and a special needs one at that, so I couldn't really get what they were going on about, other than "Minecraft." I think an errant MC stream just put their device into that algorithm and now they do the child thing of
>click on literally any video in their recommended section again and again and again
on those videos/streams.

>>33746664
>The Mori recline didn't happen immediately either.
Then she gets 10k again the next time she plays a buff game in a good timeslot... but sure take those Live A live numbers as her actual numbers.

Man these threads sure are talking about a lot of not-numbers lately, won't you people have the rest of the catalogue for that?

>>33746082
huh what's going on? good streams should go up not down
homobros how can we explain this

>>33746830
Or the Minecraft drama was so huge NijiEN MC streams got trending

I LOOOVE TAKING DATA OUT OF CONTEXT AND WRITING MY PERSONAL FANFICTION ABOUT IT. I'M ANALOOOZING.

>>33746562
>>33746641
>>33746653
>>33746746
>>33746770
>>33746792
so in general it's just nothingburger & only affects minor problem to the girls. Got it

>>33746876
>lately

did we do it, did we destroy idol culture? can i go back to watching kyo now?

>>33746922
More like "Impossible to draw a meaningful conclusion due to a lot of noise at the moment, come back in a few weeks/a month"

>>33746876
Sure, have some numbers

>>33746841
There's a point when you push out enough debuff streams that it stops being debuff content and starts being who you are.

>>33746474
it's already affecting the whole branch in the sense that homobeggars and tourists are motivated to persuade the whole EN branch to collab with Tempus

>>33746816
>11 Niji EN streaming over each other
>it's not even a big collab
>no one will make the EN tally
Grim

>>33746830
That makes sense, Nijisanji streams a lot more Minecraft than Hololive nowadays.

Getting mogged by mario galaxy…….

>>33746922
The girls? No real impact. Kronii specifically? May end up being negative over time, but not to a larger degree then her own horrifically erratic scheduling creates negative factors for her.

>>33746787
He also left out the detail the the first stream was on Kobo's channel, the second on blue boy's. I wonder why he didn't mention it?

>>33746956
>5k apex homo collab
Doubt it

>>33746876
Slow day, NijiEN can't put up a good fight, number discussion is related wether or not male collabs will affect kronii's number. Please understand.

>>33746972
Doesn't make her any less popular, CCV is a retarded metric

>>33746972
No anon, according to EN fans everything is a debuff, even Rust and FGO.

>>33746841
I mean, even if those Live a Live aren't representative of her average, it show that her floor is absolutely shit. She barely have a core viewership.

>>33746698
None, it's content/attitude change that usually leads to big numbers shifts and if you're still watching Kronii and Ame daily, you're already used to being mistreated/ghosted/ignored. Kronii randomly disappearing for a week because she just doesn't feel like streaming is unironically worse than a homo collab.

>>33746964
damn, nijien beating holo+faggot by like 7k
i think they need more male collabs

>>33746474
Hard to say how it will effect numbers in the long run but it will absolutely effect perception of the branch overall if this continues.
EN and Temppus will become something that's neither Hololive nor Stars. It kind of hard to see them as male or female only units when they are objectively not that on anything other than paper.

>>33746698
Nyanners streamed less but the reasons she streamed less were because she was busy doing shit with her boyfriend
Veibae has also been reclining it looks like. Anyone who says there's none is retarded. How can you say what plays a bigger factor in a recline? It's impossible to narrow a recline to any one specific thing and it's equally impossible to completely rule some thing out either

>>33746964
Nijiniggers can can have irys, and we get Salome. Deal? Deal.

>>33746922
The real answer is no one knows and anyone making narratives right now is just trying to sell a story.