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>>33707555I don't think fauna is at the same level as koyo and lamy.
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>>33707459100% if the stars are gonna get harassed again for sure miyabi is gonna take the most harassments since they consider him as the source for the corruption like last time.
>>33707644not really, but she doesn't have the background for these kind of games
I'd buy the rrat of Gura following behind Aqua's footsteps. Gura is retarded, funny and could sing but her passive is to be able to kill nijisanji on sight. Her title as niji killer was brought upon after killing them so many times in 2019/2020 before pekora arrived.
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day218) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive2x Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora3x: Miko2x: Ayame, Marine1x: Botan, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji Sora, Subaru, Suisei>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY169x: Hololive84x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER35x: Pekora17x: Miko16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>33707593Is this real? Because if this is not just made up by unicorn schizos, holy shit! I guess broken livers attract hepatitis.
BUUM
Blue Boy 5K
Can we all agree that the worst thing about Rust season 3 besides the gay anti pekora rules is the fact that this shit is turning into a fucking minecraft construction war arc? They should've just given everyone a hard team at the start of season 3. The mini war skirmishes they do sometimes is fun but people couldn't give a shit about it compared to having actual 2 active factions.
I'll take advantage of the new thread and make it a smaller post because you are all zoomers and can't read more than 113 words so I'll make this post EXACTLY 113 words.If you want the full post, check >>33707500tl;dr: In North America, you are expected to tip 15-20% anytime you are served, and if you get SPECTACULAR BAD SERVICE like getting food dunked on you, service worker being rude on purpose>you are allowed to tip "only" 10%That is the perfect metaphor for the state of the EN vtuber scene, when the streamers can do no wrong and even if she does, you are not allowed to complain.
>>33707780Another day, another HoloGoldFeels good to be a HoloChad
>>33707500So, going by this statement, couple with EN's culture which seek drama Is there any hope left fot JP-style chuuba in EN?
>>33707747
What's the member post like record?
>>33707836Why the fuck would you even want a JP-style chuuba in EN? Just watch JP.
>>33707836No, that sounds oxymoronic.
Why the FUCK is the blue homo at 5k? You guys told me the homos were reclining hard and leeching from the girls wouldn't save them??
Reminder dont bite the bait everyone
FRIEND LEWDS
>>33707780It is almost mathematically impossible for Nijisanji to win 2022 now.
Should Ame's shitpost stream be included in the tally?
>>33707836>Is there any hope left fot JP-style chuuba in EN?Not only there is but if Gura sticks to her guns and creates a safe environment for Fauna and Mumei they'll EASILY dominate the EN vtuber scene by embedding themselves in the JP-ID box and ditching their coworkers
>>33707882Because the whole point of HoloEN was to go into EN market, but if that means go against JP principles, then people will think it's not worth it
>>33707832>Feels good to be a HoloChadSorry bro but>It feels good to be a HoloJPChad
>>33707889Kobo collab
>>33707792not sure about the rest but a couple of the boys paypigs have made their socials private. i dont know if they were harassed or if people warned them about potential harassments.
>>33707648>"B-b-buh Kronii didn't say she wants to collab with males on her debut"So fucking what, she also didn't say she won't collab with males. You act as if she insulted your family honour or something.You kronies are the most backwards ass faggots of a fan I've ever seen.You don't want your oshi to grow or change, you want her to be at your toy.You don't give a shit about her happiness, only yours.I hope you faggots stay miserable for the rest of your lonely existence.
>>33707891>OrangeORANGE HATE!
>>33707889Anon, look who is with him
>>33707897we included rosemis stream back then so yeah.
>>33707927>>33707832
Kronii is right.If you pander to the fanbase you have, you miss out on the fanbase you could have, which is always bigger.
>>33707747Is rye ogey
What I learned from last thread:>there are people ITT that think Miku is a real person and not a fictional entity devoid of personality based around a vocal synthesizer software with no agency
Is it true Kronii's views are beginning to dip because of the collab thing? That can't be real.
>>33707772She kills NijiEN everytime she streams tho.
>>33707889Unironically people are retarded or just acting like retards. An incline or recline isn't provable from a week of streams, or even a month of infrequent streams. It requires a timeline of at least 2-3 months of consistent streams to see an average baseline and see growth. If a chuuba / liver gets 10k one month then 8k the next month, are you going to say "recline" if they get 9k the month after? If a chuuba or liver only streams four times a month, with all streams being big events, are you going to say they inclined?
>>33707891Challenge level: IMPOSSIBLE
>>33707889>Why the FUCK is the blue homo at 5k?it is more or less the same situation of NijiEN girls. Anytime you ask>why is X with this big numberthe answer will unavoidably be >X is leeching from the usual targetsIn the NIjiEN girls, Luxiem, in Regis case, Kobo.In this particular case, it's a single POV collab in his channel
How long will disowned Kronicorns keep crying? Just cut off your dicks, transition and become your own ideal girl, faggots.
>>33707990She's my wife, so she's real.
>>33707911>Gura, who ghosting everyone>Create a safe environmentI have more trust in a bottle of bug spray than Gura "Creating" anythingGirl is just too much of a loner
>>33708006most of the answers you will get are shitpostingthe actual answer is that it is way too early to tell, come back in like a month
>>33707889He's just gonna go back to being a sub 2k shitter like usual tomorrow.
>>33708034wrong thread and offtopic
>>33706049The AmongUS participants organised by Kiara
>>33708045Anon, Gura doesn't need to do ANYTHING at all. All she needs is to stick to her guns and every other girl can just say>I'll just do what Gura does
>>33707931Probably pre-emptive measures
>>33707943>Kronie shit on Kronie>Reply to a retard post with a similar retard post.
>Megabuff collab partners>Horror game>Ebin thumbnailStill losing to a meme stream. How does NijiCN manage to be so shit?
>>33707792>its in green text so it must be true>ur a faget
>>33708068Kobo and Gura finally in a collab togetherBEEN WAITING FOR THIS
>>33707780Wait where's Salome? Or Vox?
>>33707927HoloEN is doing pretty good in cripple tally though.
>>33708068Latechama.
>>33708006The real answer is that her viewers dipped long ago due to frequent breaks and inconsistent schedules. This drama honestly won't affect her views
>>33708067wrong gender
>>33708097That thumbnail is garbage and probably spooked more people away lol.
Delta's retention is amazing. Can't wait to see her CCV a month from now. Too bad she is retarded and splitting her audience between Youtube and Twitch.
>>33707943>>33708034Honestly i want to egg and shit on kronies even more so that they do something more drastic. Harassing the boys fans are not enough i want them to actually hurt someone.
>>33708045Just like how SNO followed Gura, there will be other girls who wants numbers or are more of a diehard fan of hers who will follow cgdct
>>33708086I hate this, tell down picture.
>>33708027Were their other collabs also single pov?
This is what happens when the branch doesn't have ''pillar''.JP already has Sora and FubukiID has iofi and Moona.Meanwhile, EN doesn't have someone that capable of being the Pillar of the branch, the one who managed to connect to all branches without controversy and the one who managed to hold shit up when the branch is in shambles because of controversy.as long there's no pillar in EN, you will expect there's will be more retardation in the future caused by the EN branch & disarray.i just hope in EN3 there's girl who can hold shit up when someone on the branch fucked up & also can tard-wrangle the girl.Ame can be EN Sora (the figurehead-like figure & unity in branches)EN just need someone that can do yab-deflection & acting like good PR machine to ensure everything looks ''alright'' on the surface.
>>33707943I wonder why they just won't just fuck off and find an alternative, but be menhera to the point of contemplating bloodlust.I wonder just how they are parasitic to her.Cover should realize that the parasocial game is too dangerous to play and they need to invest actual money to figure out how to handle parasocial relationships.
>>33708068Where's Tempus?
>>33708006Too early to tell. Those games that she play after break isn't exactly buff game.
>>33708079Anon, she has been doing that since Mori collabing with TT, and yet retards /here/ are acting like the girl will get fucking lynched by le ebin homobeggars any day now
>>33708006Best demonstration of whether or not there was any affect is if she streams her top buff content at some point, like Minecraft.
>>33708087some of them might but some of them did get harassed seeing as how 2 privated an hour after infinity talked about harassing them.
When EN3 drops this thread is gonna have a fun time predicting whether the girls will be in the anti or pro Tempus faction.
>>33708180Kiara organized it
>>33708068I’m surprised Gura is joining
>>33708136Preferably themselves
>>33708223EN3 already happened. It was Tempus.
>>33708180rent free anon?
>>33707976AhahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaHa. What's ridiculous idea. Sure, go pander to Twitter troons, then come back and ask why your hobby is dead 10 years later.
>>33707990That was one of the funniest post I have seen in this boardEach day people reach a new level of retardation
>>33708166Mori and Ame is the closest thing to pillars on EN side, but unfortunately they couldn't tardwrangle the branch like FBK does not they have a shining beacon like JP does with Sora.
>>33708223honestly we're gonna be more busy with the whole council/holox problem again of people numberrotted to hell with post debut numbers only for the obvious dip and then the doomposting
>>33708166seems like mori is trying to force her way into being the pillar. Fortunately not even irys takes her seriously
>>33708250preferably and hopefully both.
>>33708223Omegatroon and YAGOO will groom them into liking the tempus cocks.
>>33708167>invest actual money to figure out how to handle parasocial relationships.Let me tell you the reality of that game anon. The only way to win it is either to appease them or to completely suicide your career. Top twitch streamers who are super anti parasocial still get parasocial viewers who annoys them with bullshit no matter how much they tell them to fuck off. If you want to "own" them make sure to keep your viewcount to zero.
>>33708223I personally don't care. As long as they get good numbers it's all good. In this thread number is King. I don't care about unicornshit.
>>33707923How are their going against the holo jp principles. Holo en at this point are reclining gura maxed out the unicorn market and it's not enough to make a dent in the western market. The only way holo en can incline at this point is by working with holostars en. This opens up a brand new dynamics for both groups that benefit both. This quote says it all "united we stand divided we fall". Holostar and holoen are not frankly not increasing their audience cause their not united but working together their strength is unimageable the worm collab opened my eyes. Having vesper and magni commentate while the guys and girls have fun created a unique atmosphere not like niji en or vshojo. This what en idol culture should be the males and female talents working together to create an new possibility . A new idol culture something the world never seen before that is how both groups will incline.
>>33708223Who cares? I'm more interested whether they will stream regularly or not.
>>33708034They have to learn from the ideal girl to become the ideal girl.https://youtu.be/ucbx9we6EHk
>>33708150>SNOwhat happened to T?
>>33708166Unironically the EN girls are too independent to each other for it to workAnd the most important thing is EN also don't have the anal attitude about Senpai-Kouhai hierarchy for it to work (Which is ... Well, that's how EN is)
>>33708298Fauna will groom minecraft autists and make them solid cgdct
>>33708132She has a lot of EOPs saviourfags tho, who aren't known for staying for too long
When wilhe Gen 1 whores graduate?
>>33707831so you're saying america/americans is the problem? I agree
>>33708339Didn't follow Gura?
>>33707697/news/ roundup for 20-09-2022 >>33640013Recent clip numbers>>33699829>>33699859>>33700466>>33700501
>>33708301But that's not even remotely true, we have multiple evidence from Holo JP side.
>>33708363when you graduate from life
>>33708358MASSfags? I think they do stay after all this time. Not all of them obviously.
>>33708111>salomeher last stream was 15k>voxnot relevant besides his asmr
>>33708339dunno what you're talking about
>>33707831If you expect better services, the servers will remember your face, and the cooks will add extra ingredients on your food.You can always walk out, too.What can the restaurant do if you walk out after eating your meal? Nothing.Just don't do this at your local area.
>>33708097Unmedicated hepatitis.
>>33708366North America. Kronii is Canadian and so are countless of the HoloEN and NIjiEN streamers.It's a difference in mindset
>>33708223I don't care desu but they have to let people know as early as possible what their stance is on male collabs.
>>33708260Are you implying that Twitter troons don't watch streams? Do you have any evidence to back that up?
>>33708328ඞ
Anyone remember pre PekoMoona arc? I won't be surprised if Some JP cliques just decides to go back to that state if EN drama keeps escalating.
>>33708150you weren't supposed to answer that joke question.
>>33708223anon, they will all be pro-tempus. The EN scene is dead for CGDCT enjoyers outside of anyone who currently exists and follows Gura... and Ina.
>>33708287Are we watching the same person? When's the last time Mori even organized a branch collab?I know Mori-hating is /vt/ preferred past time but at least use your brain a little.
>>33708182People in January 2022 would've called you a schizo if you told them the following things -> KSon will join VShojo> Ame will collab with a Holostars member> Kronii will collab with a Holostars member> There will be people trying to force the Holo girls to collab with males."acting like the girl will get fucking lynched by le ebin homobeggars any day now" is just an inevitability, and these "retards" will just be people who know what happens 6 months from now.
>>33707831American tipping culture is retarded. Pay your staffs properly.
Don't let all these posts distract you from the fact that Fubuki won gold today and we are having some nice hag lewds, probably with a lot of armpit involved
>>33708122Ehh we'll see about that. I can imagine number dropping due to school has started and some regular drop out due to drama. Shit happened to me too, i don't came to Hololive for these, i don't like Homo collab but hey if you're gonna do it just do it, don't make a big deal out of it. Kronii managed to do 2 stupid thing at once, triggered the retard in her fanbase by being flip flop in her stance and attracted another batch of retard on twitter to the fandom. Some what similar shit happened to Mori that made me drop her hard.
>>33708097>Shoto, Ironmouse and Luxiem>Still lost to fucking debuffson shitpost.The vtuber market outside of JP is a fucking joke
>>33708445for >>33708370
FRIEND GOLD FRIEND GOLD FRIEND GOOOOOOLD!
>>33707891Impossibble
>>33708435most JP barely cares about EN besides some big events or Gura
>>33708166i always feel like Ame is closer to being EN sora than EN fubuki.not because of daisenpai status but its the ''to make a good environment for holopro talent & unity in branches" which Sora did.Ame doesnt have capabilities to be Fubuki, being Fubuki is more than just being unitychads. just see what fubuki did whenever big yab/controversy happen. i dont think Ame will go that far.>>33708283>>33708287>mori>pillarshe's too fucking YAB to be fucking pillar. the branch will fucking crumble if she's the pillar.i trust Ame more than Mori ''own za hater" Calliope
EN3 will have management mandated "will collab with males and outsiders" disclaimers on debut
>>33708468I mean... there's a reason the top 3 HoloENs are Gura, Fauna, and Mumei.
>>33707831That plus lowbrow corporate entertainment has decided its calling is to "educate" (humiliate) and/or "challenge" (alienate) its audience (chudcels). So mass media has never been less popular than it is now, and its makers have never been prouder of themselves. American small-corporate niche media (like HoloEN) ASPIRES to that failure.
>>33708223This is not /hlgg/ you enshart, this fucking thread is only interested in numbers.
>>33708419>If you expect better services, the servers will remember your face, and the cooks will add extra ingredients on your food.You are just proving my point. That's exactly the attitude that is prevalent in North America but pretty much non existent in the rest of the western world and even in the third world.>You didn't like the way you were served and DARED to complain? >I'LL MAKE IT A POINT TO PUNISH YOU WITH EVEN WORSE SERVICE!See: going the AmeWay
>>33708486>KSon will join VShojoPeople has been expected this ever since her graduation.>There will be people trying to force the Holo girls to collab with malesThis already happened since long time ago.
>>33708486> There will be people trying to force the Holo girls to collab with malesThis doesn't apply tho, homobeggars have been a thing for more than 2 years
holy fuck this timeloop is the most boring of em all, bring back pekkers vs gura please.
>>33708363What brought this up?
>>33707943>You don't give a shit about her happinessWhy should I? I thought being parasocial is bad? She's an entertainer, streaming isn't about making her happy it's about making me happy.
>>33708532They relate to numbers and that post would probably be deleted in /hlgg/.
>>33708468Bro no one is applying to HoloEN thinking>Damn I want to be the next Bae
>>33708223If it happens at all, it's kind of questionable at this point. I wouldnt be shocked if holoJP introduced a gen that all speak english themselves instead.I could imagine people like Gura and Kiara migrating over to become part of JP in a future rebranding while the remainders and tempus become HoloWest or something
>>33708492Don't let all these posts distract you from the fact that a fucking 6-minutes meme stream won EN gold today
>>33708486>Lose my shit>Shien>Lose my shit>JP homobeggers exist
>>33708472fubuki doesnt organize a lot of collabs either anon, this is about who tries to act out as a "leader"
Reminder anyone arguing homo collabs are good is a nijifaggot trying to ruin HoloEN in the same way LazuLight became Luxiem cocksleeves
>>33707943Stop twisting works locust, the point was that she had a chance at the outset of the conversation (Gabe's schizo rant) in order to make her position about it clear, but she fucking didn't, and gave schizos like him actual hope that she would consider their viewpoints.She should not have done that if she was just going to walk back on it 2 weeks later. That's the kind of shit you expect from a VShojo girl, not someone in HoloEN.
>>33708510kek very accurate
>>33707697September eventsHololive16) Subaru anniversary, Moona 3D debut17) Iofi 3D debut18) Risu 3D debut, Gura 3D live20) HoloID mini 3D liveNijisanji16) Kuzuhacup17) Kuzuhacup18) CRcup (Kuzuha)28) Kuzuhaday30) Nijifes fantasia
>>33708486>forceWho's doing that?
>>33708540maybe if gura can even get on pekkers level in the first place.
>>33708486>KSon will join VShojoI have been literally saying that since she interacted with them. And ive been saying that NotRushia will join them after she made that statement trying to bait cover.
>>33708558Reality seems to be contradicting that, but hey we'll see.
>>33708006check back in a month
>>33708563>holoJP introduced a gen that all speak english themselves insteadThey don't need to pander to those crowds.
>>33708166Arguably EN's pillar is Ame.Kronii's just following her lead.
>>33708376It's true anon. You were talking about parasocial relationships not male debuff or unicorn bullshit. And there's more than many ways to ruin it besides the gay boyfriend shit. Like Towa probably have no parasocial viewers for male collab but you'll be pretty damn sure there are parasocial viewers that will get angry if she was exposed as an fps cheater. Parasocial viewers isn't exclusively about boyfriend shit, it's more about trust and keeping up with the imagine your audience wants you. It's the same reason why Xqc's veiwers basically threw a huge fucking tantrum spam for days in his chat because he accepted the gambling sponsorship.tl;dr: Can you live without parasocial viewers? No. Can you live without unicorns? Probably.
>>33708536You couldn't be more way off, retard burger.Only Americans throw a fit if they think they aren't provided with good enough service, the rest of the world is nowhere as confrontational as burgers.Like, do you know where the stereotype of dirty, rude, and loud-mouthed americans came from?
>>33708618This. We already have a EN corpo example of what happens to too much male and female interaction. Hell even female twitch streamers either go the parasocial sexy bait route or orbiting a much more popular male
>Yesterday is Pekora/Gura>Today is Fubuki/Ame
>>33708223Can't wait for them to be called the "Sankisei of EN" after 150k + debuts.
>>33708687>the rest of the world is nowhere as confrontational as burgersZhangs are some of the rudest and most disgusting motherfuckers on the planet.
>>33708657don't even need that graph, just a matter of watching activity from morning jp streams to know the boxes barely interact anymore
>>33708718I mean they will since they are EN3.
>>33708625Pretty much; she just saw the money and decided to play along until things started to inconvenience her.
>>33708340yeah EN is too individualistic, and you cant be pillar if you're too individualist.even Ame who people expect as EN FBK still too individualistic.the only hope is EN3 but if EN3 doesnt have someone that capable of being pillar...i have no hope for EN branch.
>>33708182they have been lynching her, they're doing it right nowBut Gura has the secret power known as "Literally just dont look at what weirdos on twitter are screaming about" and just carries on about her businessNobody would even know it's happening because she doesnt draw attention to it unlike other twittards
>>33708519Only true in Aug. Not in this month (so far), and not in July either.
>>33708223>>33708718Im placing my bet on the runt of the gen to be the next powerhousePekora im sorry i doubted you in early days and called you a failure
>>33708730We're talking about human beings here, please keep on topic.
>>33708713It's really cute that EN fags want to be beside JP chads like they're in the same standing even with their pathetic numbers. Yesterday was Pekora and today was FBK. That is all.
Cover should just drop En3 and introduce bilingual JP7 instead. They can put Siro as their leader after the graduates from .LIVE.
>>33708718They wont get 100k
Who the fuck is Gabe?
>>33708537>>33708643Only schizos, her actual fans were left QUITE surprised by her move to corpo.Why do you think she had to do the whole damage control stream?
>>33707976Anon, her content panders specifically to people who love boring indie games and coomerbait. She doesn't do FOTM to catch a mainstream audience. She's not a good enough singer to capture music autists. She doesn't la creatividad projects for the tourists. Her fanbase is exactly what she made it to be: coomers who can stand boring indie games. What bigger fanbase is she even trying to appeal to? People who will never watch her streams?
>>33708516You don't have to be yab-free to qualify as pillar anon, only mental strength and sense of responsibilty.Mori couldn't be a pillar even though she's arguably is the strongest mentally among HoloEN, but because she has too many projects and doesn't have enough time to involve herself with branch problem.
>>33707990was it the guy talking about miku collabs?
>>33708818me
>>33708818You don't know Valve anon?
>>33708794Bilinguals flop hard nigga because no one want to deal with two languages flip flopping.
Why are unicorn fags up in full swing??Didn't you get btfoed by literally everyone, why do you still exist like pesticides??
>>33708167EVERY STREAMER AND FAN INTERACTION IS PARASOCIAL WHETHER THEY'RE BEING GFE OR JUST BROS. WELCOME TO THE FUCKING REAL WORLD. STOP USING "PARASOCIAL" WHEN YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE HAVE "PARASOCIAL" RELATIONSHIPS WITH ACTORS WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY FUCKING EXIST, AT LEAST WITH STREAMERS YOU CAN GET YOUR FUCKING MESSAGE/DONATION READ
>>33708838I don't think there is any relation between Gaben and Kronii.
>>33708486>Ame not being a saviourfag and trying to boost HomosHer whole existence is to help people over herself anon
>>33708801Lot of people are waiting for EN3, I'd say 120k is the bare minimum the debuts must clear to be categorized as non-failures.
>>33708730Zhangs are not human, do you burgers want to be put on the same tier as them? Is that what you want retardo?
>>33708830>strongest mentallylol
>>33708822>her actual fans were left QUITE surprisedthats because her actual fans were full of copium. when she talked about how she was almost scammed for her 3d that for me was the final nail in the coffin of her joining vshojo.
>>33708818representative of all the schizo kronies.
>>33708283Mori and Ame are the tards that need to be wrangled, if anything the pillar is Gura but she is too antisocial
>holo vs holo>"i'm a nousagi btw">won't even post membership with timestamp when I showed my 8 month membershipis this the new angle they're going with? who do I blame for this?
>>33708794I don't think cover need bilingual JP7. That would bean automatic runt gen. EOP pandering never works now.
>>33708879My expectation is very low for EN I will laugh if they can't beat Iluna's debuts.
>>33708686Basically, stay true to the image that you cultivate.
>>33708855> unicorns are like pesticides to twitterfagsheh
>>33708855Kronii got btfo by losing 50% of her viewerbase. CGDCT chads are riding high on the victory over the twitter trannies
>>33708830>Mori couldn't be a pillar even though she's arguably is the strongest mentally among HoloEN>she's arguably is the strongest mentally among HoloENhahahahahaGood one, anon!
>>33708166I don't expect her to be a pillar but I genuinely hope Kiara starts tardwrangling the girls more. She of all people has been handling Tempus and collab beggars far better than most of her coworkers and was willing to call out her own gen during their anniversary.
>>33708907>who do I blame for this?You already know the answer anon
>>33708552So you can even differentiate between empathy and parasocial relationship.You kronies are failures as human
>>33708889Like I said, in January you'd be called a schizo if you posted that she's gonna join VShojo in her thread.
>>337082232 girls who mention Tempus in their debut, 2 girls who almost never mention them but still join a group collab with Tempus (these will cause the most drama), 1 girl who never interacts with them but she has a confirmed boyfriend that people will use to shitpost
>>33707943Nigga, it's only Gabe and his group who's still causing shit.
>>33708907come on anon you already know who.
>>33708857No no no anon you don't get it John Lennon died of an accident not because of a crazed fan who felt offended and betrayed, parasocial interaction is a thing that only exists with streamers.
>>33708928Yeah it boils down to this. No one will bat an eye if Suisei collab with male but if Kanata collab will male all hell will break loose.
>>33708822>>33708889she spent a whole fucking year talking about making her own group, even making her own live2d software, she was talking about what programming books she was going to getI thought she was really impressive and really knew what she was doingI didn't think she just didn't know what she was doing
>>33708914Debuts are one point where both fans AND antis will be watching anon.I watched some of the iLuna debuts as well, despite not even following NijiEN.People are always on the lookout for chuubas that they might find interesting, and debuts are the best time to check that.
>>33708977Its femcels. The same ones who seethed about Rushia and GFE.
>>33708830>strongest mentally among HoloEN>moribeing a whiny bitch doesnt make you mentally strong, anon. Being unable to control your own mouth actually points to the opposite
>Almost October>Retards still think EN3 is happeningIt's sad at this point
>>33707990Thanks for posting this, my mind filter skipped through that retard so I didn't notice.
>>33709009It was talk like those that convinced me that she was gonna rejoin a corpo.
>>33708769Gura does look at what retards were screaming at her though, she had thrown a few remark at some and done some action to counter some( in a very subtle way) , still she either doesn't look enough or literally mentally strong enough to not bring it on stream.
>>33708625So you're saying kronies are justified for harassing her and her associate because they felt cucked?Are you faggots for real? No wonder she finally cut you off, fucking toxic-ass "fans".
I'm sorry to in interrupt the timeloops, but I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfXKkTGBZ2g
>>33709009I don't watch kson but it almost seems like you're describing one of those Twitch grifters who's always accepting donations for their next big project that never pans out.
>>33708930>>33708932how do you feel anons, that no one not even your oshi care about you, thank you for spending money in superchats and memberships for her but you are no one.Make sure to fap, helps with stress and depression !!
/news/ roundup for 21-09-2022 (all times are in JST)> Among Us reveals Hololive themed cosmetic items in-game (https://twitter.com/AmongUsGame/status/1572269459838214145)), collaboration merch will also be coming out soon (https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20220921-01-12/).).> Kiara will be organizing an Amongus collab to celebrate the collab (https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572368419550539776).).> Nijisanji merch "Niji Petit" series released, will feature the first 5 waves of NijiEN (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1572405250148904960).).> Mel, Chloe and Pekora inspired makeup featured in LARME magazine (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1572495852064706560).).> Okayu featured on the front page of "VTuber Style" magazine (https://twitter.com/nekomataokayu/status/1572501155397406720).).> HoloSummer acrylic stands and pin badges on sale (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1572518500110766080).).> Hololive quiz planned for both EN and JP fans as part of the 5th Anniversary celebration (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1572510953467351040).).> Sukoya Kana (NijiJP) revealed her new outfit (https://youtu.be/sRUctKHT7oE).).> Sonic Frontiers sponsored stream from Reimu (https://youtu.be/Qr7g3g089wI).).Previous : >>33640013August roundup : >>32140520
>>33709079Kys redditfag. Lick my sack if you want toxicity
Okay since people are fucking retarded we really should get the terminology straightParasocial Viewers =/= Unicorn ViewersParasocial viewers can come in many forms, but they're basically viewers who are invested and has expectations on the streamer for specific things and they can be people who give a shit about the love life, the numbers, the relationship of the streamer, or even the gaming skill of the streamer(I remember people dropping tyler1 because he fucked up his korean challenge).Unicorn Viewers are people who are in the GFE shit and no males collab stuff.Ogay? Learn something new while you shitpost guys.
>>33709009She had already been caught lying. The moment Vshojo announced they had $11 million to invest I knew they had her.
>>33709079It's not necessarily justified, but it's understandable.
>>33709079They're not justified for harassing her but she literally cultivated this shit fanbase because she refused to have a fucking spine, and then made it worse with the repeat lying. Both sides are not innocent in all this.
>>33709009again, fans thought that it was because she was making her own corpo, not joining an existing one.
>>33709117meds now
>>33708615She doesn't organize a lot of collab these days, but just see her early years effort.She even organized the Holo x Stars collab when Stars gen 2 debuted.
>>33709079Everyone is retarded. Kronii is retarded. Her fans are retarded. Hololive Productions EN is retarded. People just blame Kronii first because it didn't even have to be this way but for some reason she kept on bringing this issue up multiple times.
i was looking at the total views column in holostats and i know pre gen5/myth holos had the whole holocaust deal and lost a lot, but is there a reason why nene still hasn't cleared 100m views and the gap is so wide with the rest of her gen
>>33709117I refuse to understand the reasoning of the mentally-ill and you should too.
>>33709136>>33709120This is what I mean by "understandable." When you're dealing with people who would devote their salary to an anime character with gif tits, you're also facing the mental schizophrenia that comes with it. Don't want to deal with that? Don't cultivate that audience.
>>33708830being mentally strong also means she doesn't fall to a bait or doing things out of spite.>>33708894>gura>pillaranon...Gura doesnt even have a shred of unity to her own genmate let along to the whole branch & being pillar mean she doesnt have problem mentioning/openly support the homos which she will 100% avoid.i love gooba but come on, she's aint it>>33708934same, Kiara seems to have capabilities to tard wrangling her own genmates, but the unfortunate thing is her personality (esp the ME ME & clingy extrovert one) kinda filter people off. But i just hope she wrangling the girls behind the scene.
in other news, tamaki has a cover with nobuhime to be released
>>33709177Nene is still around? Damn
>>33709177holocaust happened before gen 5 newfag chama but yes, nenechi is just that boring
>>33709073Do you remember that time when the schizo was posting that wall text about her playing off stream with some swedish guy and the day after that she had a WWE stream with a poll made in Sweeden (poll that casually only worked for the first battle) just to discover she was at Ame's house 2 days later?
>>33709120Yes obviously there were better ways for her to deal with, but at the end of the day it has to be said and getting these unicorn retards out is net positive for the whole community
>>33708486People have been shitposting about Coco going to Vshojo since 2020.But Rushia getting terminated and moving to Vshojo with her too? Now that would make you look like a schizo.
>>33709177because she's a menhera who takes too many breaks
>>33709079Yes. Seethe about it
>>33709099I will fap to Gura while she gaps to Miku
>>33708794>bilingual>Ollie, Anya, Kiara, Bae, and fucking Axel exists Anon ...
>>33708516Ame is nowhere near being a Sora. Sora's main claim to fame is that she is largely inoffensive. Ame is not inoffensive; in fact, she is the opposite of inoffensive (but not necessarily in the way that you think). She is definitely more like Fubuki and Matsuri than she's like Sora.
>>33709199i said pre gen5/myth, what did you read anon
>>33708687>Only Americans throw a fit if they think they aren't provided with good enough service,Anon, for fuck sake, are you a fucking burger?There is a reason things won't escalate to this level in the rest of the civilized world, and it is because the service workers know damn well that if a customer even shows any sign of displeasure about the service his ass is getting fired without recourse right then and there.The only reason burgers have to pretty much go to the physical route is because service workers aren't expected to provide a good service
>>33708671The condom box is for my size(19cm), lucky me.
>>33709177She streams less than Botan or Lamy, and while Polka also doesn't stream a lot, Polka supplements her views with weekly Polden shows and a lot more music videos.
Every argument defending Kronii's stupidity can be shut down with just Bae, her own genmate.
>>33708994>No one will bat an eye if Suisei collab with maleAsk hoshiyomis about the reaction when she collabed with bessan.
>>33709230>>33708852>>33708911I just want Siro to get in Hololive and be saved She's stuck in sponsorship slave hell.
other than bossu, fubuki and flare are there any other holos that actually play fgo? i don't mean someone like koyori who hasn't even finished part 1
>People criticize ENs when they collab with a male>And yet theres not complaints when Mio, Okayu and Korone is collabbing with a male right nowDouble Standards much.
>>33709201>getting these unicorns out Yeah they aren't actually gonna leave anon. They'll just become antis or switch to girls that placate them like Gura
>>33709079No you absolute dumbass twitteroid, quote the part where I fucking said that.I'm saying that if Kronii hadn't given them hope in the first place, Kronies would likely have just left her without issue, LIKE THEY WERE PREPARING TO.Did you even lurk infinity during that mengen? Do you know how fucking relieved that entire thread was when she said that she'd take their (retarded) opinions into account?You don't do that to people, and you NEVER do that to actual schizos. It's the type of thing that psychiatrists create school shooters from.
Real fucking tired of thread boogeymans ngl.>it's the unicorns>it's the discordfags>it's the nijiniggers>it's the homobeggarsHyper schizoid behavior, mods should nuke these threads on basis of mental health concerns already if it's incapable of nearly being on topic half the time.
>>33709163Ey ey ey ey, my oshi is not. She's learning Indonesian's language.
>>33709009>even making her own live2d software, she was talking about what programming books she was going to getAND SHE DID! >SUMMONING SUPER3D
>>33709099don't mind if I do
>>33709079who is harassing her? Show me the harassmentSaying "I don't like this, I'm not going to watch you anymore" is not harassmentYou are brain broken by marvel/star wars/ghostbusters bullshit that you believe saying you dont like something and wont give it your money is a crime
Was Reimu always a 3view or has the increasingly larger overlap of NijiEN killed her?
too many essays being typedjust graduate kronii and be done with it, losing nothing of value anyways
>>33709293Anon, the schizos will just spread like cockroaches in the board if this thread is banned. Also Pekora's split will be fucking shit again especially if she plays DQM.
>>33709260who the hell is bessan? I'm a hoshiyomi and I don't know, yet faggots keep mentioning it every once and then for some reason.
>>33709115And unicorn =/= idol culture
>>33709293>mods should nuke these threads on basis of mental health concerns already if it's incapable of nearly being on topic half the timeThis but the entire board.
>>33709195>in other news, tamaki has a cover with nobuhime to be releasedHow the fuck would that work? does nobuhime also get some of the earnings?
>>33709331was picking up pace before the whole Vox-Reimu incident. she was having a good week too average 1.1k iirc
>>33709248but doesn't nene also have a lot of covers?
>>33709235Stop pretending burger, the rest of the world don't throw tantrum because the waiter is a bit slow with their order, they just don't come back.You can even see this mentality on Hololive JP fans, unicorns leave when they think their oshi couldn't provide the stuff they wanted.The Rushia yab isn't even a year old you know.
>>33709287>tvtropes
>>33709195>tamaki has a cover with nobuhime to be releasedNo way! With Polka I can believe but Nobuhime? >PAGING WRONG TIMELINE ANON!
>>33709260Roberu? I remember that time there are tons of falseflaggers raiding Suisei split while the actual Hoshiyomi didn't have problem with that.
>>33708687>He doesn't know about us frenchPitoyable...
>>33709285>muh professional corpo sponsorshipNo one cares
>>33708536Sperging is cringe and harmful to your portfolio unless that's the field you are getting paid for.Self-depreciation is the way to go when walking out of a bad deal. Ghosting does work, too, but it's not professional.Just say it's personal. It's not you, it's me.Idk how shit is going outside, and I could care less about starving niggers living with their parents.
Reminder that kronii pandered to the twitch crowd hard before she couldn’t handle it anymore. Then she pandered to the people that liked her even if she wasn’t a tts machine. Pandered hard selling booba mouse daki and basically only doing memeber karaoke. Then she dropped those to pander to the twitter crowd.That’s the difference between her and Bae. Bae never changed, bae always knew what she wanted to be.
>>33709385yes, she only has 2 above 1 million though. Most of her stuff have been flops
>>33709352Get the fuck out newfag
>>33708301>The only way to win it is either to appease them or to completely suicide your career.That's why Cover needs to invest money learning about the psychology of parasocial relationships so that they can understand their own market. It is frustrating that a shitpost thread can produce better ideas on handling their own fans than them.
>>33709387>the rest of the world don't throw tantrum because the waiter is a bit slow with their orderAnon, the examples provided were>being rude>spilling food on you>ignoring you for 20 minutesThat's way more than "the waiter is a bit slow with their order"
>>33709365no idea, dont covers make little to no profit anyway? doubt nobuhime would care
>>33709443that's not an answer.
>>33709193Being a pillar doesn't mean you have to support the homo too. Gura is not a pillar material rn due to some others reason, like not using twitter to promote stuff not not supporting the Homo. Marine and Coco don't even touch the Homo and they're still deemed as one of the pillar of Hololive.
>>33709334The only one that needs to graduate is Fauna. She does nothing for EN and her personality is as fake as her voice
>>33709331The vox thing killed her
>>33709482Graduate kronii, fauna and mumei. The shittiest trio in all of hololive.
>>33709009What happened to kson gang anyway? I remember she used to collab regularly with VOMS.
>>33709293theres only one boogeyman anon and they take the form of a lot of people.
I wonder how much twitch and YouTube reclined from the lockdowns being over vs how much they reclined over multiple bad decisions in a row, specially twitch making user experience increasingly worse these last months.
>>33709285I don't trust people like Kronii, Mori and Ame to be professional and mature because that's the image that they have built since debut.
>>33708794That's the worst of both worlds.JPs speaking English worked for Coco, Haato and even Pikamee years ago when HoloEN didn't exist and proper EN chuubas weren't widespread but now it's pointless.
>>33709407I'm not talking about this board reaction anon, come on now, don't believe the MOST INFLUENTIAL BOARD bullshit.Suityan even addressed it on stream, though most of the dissenting voice either begrudgingly accepted it or left her.
If we want to at the very least make this whole discussion numbers related, just observe Kronii's and the other girls metrics post Tempus interaction then. I honestly think some of you are just overreacting and paranoid.
>>33709349I'm keeping it in check with my DQ autism, don't you worry. Also they're not as retarded as before to bite any numberfagging bait.
>>33709293Aaand out comes the true culprit
>>33709482Seeth faggot
>>33709331>Was Reimu always a 3viewPretty much, yes, to a point joked the >Anya-Petrameme became outdated when Ethyria debuted and Reimu became the new runt, with>Reimu-Iofibecoming the candidate for the next meme
>>33709200Uh your point?
>all this garbage timeloopMeanwhile, im so happy bossu got 7k CCV yesterday. thank you, pekker for making FGO as buff content
>>33709385Heck no, not anywhere near the amount Polka has put out, and not half as successful either. Not for lack of singing skill, she's good enough, but she's not good at picking popular songs.
>>33709201>CommunityFandom communities are always trouble there are nothing but greynigger retards fighting for power. Never involve yourself with that paradigm. There are only customers and the seller/streamer
>>33709539>Suityan even addressed it on streamI'm hoshiyomi and I don't remember that.
>>33709555Fauna is a whore and will never be a real idol
>>33709532You made me curious to see what's going on with twitch and GOD DMAN they are not having a good week. Literal bloomberg exposes being written up about themhttps://twitter.com/cecianasta/status/1572550288699191296
>>33709115You can use Gachikoi or Gosling as well.
>>33708713Yesterday are unicorn-friendly chuubas. Today are m*le-friendly chuubas.
>>33709525>>33709553Checked and saved
>>33709624keep crying
>>33709201She's getting them out while invite another btach of retards in the community, dramafag, own le incelfag.
>>33709546Good job anontachi, you guys are doing a thankless job from turning that place into a pure schizo heatsink.
>>33709553NijiEN will never be relevant in the West if you got troglodytes like these jesas
>>33709284I dont mind, congregrate around a talent who has no problems with unicorns and will never collab with male.Go to Gura, even more so Kiara looks like she would love it.On JP side there is a clear understanding of who likes collabing with males and who do not, EN needs that fans segregration
>>33709331>trash’s the spice saying she is EN>does “CN” learning streams>Chooses Vox over her core fan base >Vox pumps and dumps herI’m surprised she is even a high 3 view at this point
>>33709630>. Literal bloomberg exposes being written up about themHOLY SHIT, no way! Secondary mainstream media picking it up?>TWITCH IS DEAD
>>33709293>nuke these threads on basis of mental health concernsanon, that's the entire internet now
>>33709597so is the answer is nene's just shit? that's a little unsatisfying, i thought there was like a specific reason, nene always seemed to have, pardon the expression, mindshare in the community
>>33709465It's pretty much the same thing burger-kun.Hell, Japan even have multiple well-known eatery that are infamous for their rude according to nips standards service, yet you don't see customer throwing a fit, they either don't come back or just toughen up because the food is worth the rude service.
Hey /#/, this is the numbers thread, so lets talk about numbers, I'll start with my bait.Collabing with males doesn't hurt numbers they said.
>>33709388the example works, bite me
>>33709570I Hate Pekora for making Friend lose a ton of money and enabling her gambling addiction even more.
>>33708508I'M GOING TO POST YOUR LEWDS YOU FUCKING FOXCAT
I can't even go fullscreen on twitch on mobile.
>>33709648Enjoy your 5k stream today faggot. No one is going to watch her over Kronii
>>33708006like >>33708122 said, her CCV has been trending downwards for months long before Tempus even debutedShe can still get good numbers when there's little overlap or she plays Minecraft or Powerwash Sim.
>>33709709bad bait, i've seen it before
>>33709329Such an idiotWhy do you want to announce it like you are big deal or something.If you don't wanna watch just don't watch
Jesus fuck, EN fags still arguing about their very own problem even in this timeslot. btw Kenmochi is playing another VN kusoge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf7ODY4ThzUKoronesuki get in, I'm also watching SMOK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYqvfMKR16cKuzuha fag I despise so no frame for you
>>33709709>giga debuff gameI'll wait until she plays a real game
>>33708510Not this time for me hombre, I'm on a diet
>>33709709Fucking GRIM
>>33709709what will happen to irys if she collabed with males?
>>33709539>Suityan even addressed it on streamSuisei doesn't address dramas or fans' bullshit.
>>33708508I'm gonna fap to shiroi_yoru's lewds in your honor friend.Also please someone tell me more artists like him and kujira paste, I beg of you
>>33709542We already have Kobo for short term, and Ollie for long term.>but its ID, they have different kind of audienceMales are males, the only difference with EN audience are that the gachikois are a lot more quiet on ID side.IDfags left on silence, ENfags throws a fit and eventually leaves if they see no hope anymore.
>>33709709It's only going to get worse for Kronii once the troons and twitter/reddit orbiters leave after declaring victory.
>>33709709Try again tomorrow.
>>33709803
>>33709761Didn't Mysta and Ike get 10k and 8k in a split POV with this game? Why can Mumei and Kronii only get 8.6k with it with a single POV?
Okita's lewd today?
>>33709709>can’t even reach 10k with return and drama buffsHonestly think she will settle as a 5k ccv chuuba. Man to think she had the potential to be secondly only to Gura at one point…
Mika, please save your genmates....
To get a bigger normie audience entertainment companies need to get rid of their hardcore fans. Look at how big Marvels/DCs numbers got or DND. Even video games blew up once they became mainstream.I want to clarify I do not see this as a good thing. But as a business you want the biggest numbers possible. Quantity greater quality.
>>33709709Grimmest grim ever.
>>33709709Chuubas that do not collab with males have unicorn and non-unicorn fanbase.Chuubas that collab with males have non-unicorn fanbase.If a chuuba that did not collab with males start to collab with males, unicorns fuck off. It is just simple mathematics.
>>33709761She always play debuff games though
>>33709523I was surprised to find out Tomoshika and Pikamee are borderline 3views now.I guess they also lost their "I speak English" debuffs they had during 2020?
>>33709818Got the (You)'s, I'm satisfied.
>>33709695Shit at getting lots of VOD views? Maybe, but her content isn't targeted at farming VOD views so that's a strange thing to insult her over.
>>33709793"Address" is a wrong word for it, maybe more in the line of "mention".
>>33709760What's there to talk about? Holo is running away with gold on both tallies while the sisters don't want to talk about much because of the very real recline of NijiEN.
>>33709695The answer is because she is consistently menhera and takes breaks like I told you anon. Both those things filter people. She has a bigger mindshare because Kiara really likes her and interacts with her
>>33709786She drops below enna and ennafag wins
>>33709841because en reclinesame reason why mysta only got 12k for a collab with ironmouse and shoto even though this should have been a 20k stream
>>33709834>got pumped and dumped by local e-celebPrime example of how to plummet your career
>>337098411. Debuff game2. Male debuff3. Boring ass stream4. Mumei and kronii both haven't streamed much this month
>>33709880isn't all content aimed at getting views
>>33708166Sora is barely relevant, Mikochi has been much more of a pillar for the past 3-4 years.
>>33709709>Gura AND Fauna funnels>no overlap>1 POV collabthis is not the "own" you think it is
>>33709873I don't about Tomoshika but Pikamee starts to decline after she got her isekai model.
>>33709760> another SMOK collabthey've been ramping up collabs for a while now.I wonder if they're comforting doog.
>>33709701>yet you don't see customer throwing a fitYou are absolutely missing the point. The point is not>the rest of the world is unnecessarily combative when provided bad service. You are 100% right in what you are saying. In most of the world, people just don't go to shitty places with bad reputation. That's the natural and civilized way to deal with this>when a place is shitty, just don't go there again, and tell your friends not to go eitherWhat I am highlighting here with the example provided with the Nroth American "tipping culture" is the depths North Americans go to defend incompetent service workers: you are REQUIRED to leave a tip even if the service was so below par you will never set foot in the place again.It is not socially acceptable for you to complain, it is not socially acceptable for you to even EXPRESS displeasure by withholding the supposedly OPTIONAL tip.You pretty much have the right to remain silent, MAYBE passively agressively leave a smaller tip and to not to come back to the establishment again.This has no parallel ion the rest of the civilized world.
>>33709881I highly doubt she did that, much less if it was just a simple mention.
>>33709852for every 1 succesful case there are 10+ companies who go completely broke due to losing their old fans and not faining new ones because they become souless trash
>>33709890does kiara really have all that power
>>33709968>>no overlapIRyS...But yeah Gura and Fauna overlap and nothing but that is fucking ridiculous considering Fauna got a 3k overlap from Mumei/Ame alone and those were probably already sharing viewers because it was a collab
>>33709852>Look at how big Marvels/DCs numbers gotyou do realize comic books are dying because they did that right?
>>33709970God I fucking hate this model, it's so generic and shit. She literally lost her individuality because of this shit.
>>33709968Isn't the whole point to shit on those numbers....
>>33709857
>>33709850The magic number is 3. EN3 will do some voodoo shit that somehow converts normies into closet unicorns.
>>33709709Here is a # for you:Even if she reclines to 5k streamer she will still be as popular and sellout merch while you wrangle around her ccv
>>33709630Bro I wasn't even aware of that lmao. I was thinking more of how they reduced streamer revenue, ways to find new streamers and pushed for very frequent and longer ad breaks.
>>33709966Kys 35tard, where is your skin?
>>33709675> EN needs that fans segregrationAgreed, there needs to be a clear statement of who will and who won't, it doesn't need to be super direct, but being subtle in giving your stance on debut would save everyone alot of trouble. I understand somewhat why this didn't happen with gen 2, but gen 3 has no excuse in making it clear. Just say 'I look forward to collabing with Hololive' if you are going to keep true to the JP experience, or 'I look forward to collabing with Holopro' if you are intent on collabing with males. Giving statements of intent like this which are subtle enough to fly over the heads of those who want drama, but can be differentiated for those who are looking for the signs can go a long way towards harmonious debuts and reducing fan dissatisfaction from spurned expectations.
>>33709873Tomoshika has always been a 3view and her month-long OP watchalong definitely did not helpPikamee hovers around 1-2k on YT, and higher on twitch due to react content and magic twitch numbers>>33709970also, this (tho she was already reclining due to the 2020-21 EN scene explosion)
>>33710035anon who cares about that, even the iluna shitters make bank, we're here for different reasons
>i have been telling people here about the EN recline trend since the start of the year, every month but I get bullied by hardcore EN fans>myth's pathetic anniversary numbers compared to last years what all it took for people to accept itI feel validated.
>>33710035she couldn't even sell her omocat merch anon. In fact, none of council have except mumei.
Numbers do I have a fun one for you to marvel at.
you nerds are missing kino with this KobAlt stream
>>33710018IRyS is her own little box, she barely looses viewer or gains viewers when someone else starts their stream, her viewers only watch her for the most part
>>33710089If you're right you will be right soon anon. Hindsight is 20 20
>>33709481>Being a pillar doesn't mean you have to support the homo too.Anon, being a "Pillar" goes far more than just having big numbersIt's to support Holo Pro and Cover's visionAnd in that vision there will be Star, no matter how people bitch about itIF, and only IF YAGOO, Sora and Foob are removed from that equation, then maybe it can change to something else. But as long as those three still around, then you can guarantee there will be a place for Star
>>33710032Good for Fauna holding her ground alone
>>33708516nah Ame is closer to being EN Fubuki, they both more known as BTS guy helping other talent, Sora is just different case, special case, she reached her status become the symbol and set the example
>>33710102i don't watch faggots
>>33710159based
Twitch under investigation for grooming minors, users and their mods doing tax evasion and some other crap about sexual abuse, gambling etc. Will we see more vtubers move over to Youtube in the future? I wanna see how well they do honestly
>>33710032graduate mumei
>>33709873It was the loss of magnet that lost me as a viewer. It just wasn't the same...
>>33710089The EN side has been coping till recently. It's sad the the EN vtuber market hasn't made great strides as it should have.
>>33709630Holy shit, pedos on Twitch!?What is the world coming to, will they find pedophiles in local pizzerias next!?
>>33710102Eh I'm watching kino SMOK
>>33709958At getting VOD views? No? If she wanted to farm VOD views she'd be uploading shorts and clips and grinding 12 hour long streams every day. Not even sure why you're trying to sling brickbats at her here when half of Council and holoX wouldn't even be able to catch up with Nene's current views in a year's time at their current pace, despite having song videos that perform far better.
>>33710102I ain't watching they are not having sex
>>33710114Er no, she gets killed by overlapWell, most get killed by overlap (except shork), but IRyS seems to be like 3rd choice or so for the general EN fanbase
>>33710074>iLuna make bankWhy some of their members crying about growth or relevancy thenGetting mogged by Tempus in SC and memberships is not a good sign
>>33709984>North Americans go to defend incompetent service workers>he says this when japs do the same thing with how they just put someone in the retirement department rather than firing someone
>>33709473Just noticed Nobuhime still has membershipsWhere does this money even go? Upd8 is dead
>>33709970>>33710020>God I fucking hate this model, it's so generic and shit.HOLY SHIT, you are 100% right! The one thing I LOVED about Pikamee is the the same thing I LOVED about >Gleipnir: the animeIt was not the generic and mediocre "everybody is doing it"
>>33709709You wanna know how bad it was? IRyS got about as much of a funnel from Reine/Gura on part 4 of a playthrough as Kronii/Mumei did on a single POV collab.
>>33709984>the rest of the world is unnecessarily combative when provided bad service.No you faggot, it's the fucking opposite.Even your analogy to tipping culture doesn't work, tipping encourages customer entitlement, not service workers.You feel entitled to services because you "tip" them, you personally give them money.
>>33710232Uh... isn't that just ripoff Danganronpa?
>>33710114Irys and Mumei especially are notorious for getting fucking murdered by overlaps
>>33710097If she releases the merch today, she will still sell the same amount
>>33710141She actually held her ground up until the Gura/Reine and Mumei/Kronii collab started. People seem to like her at least. I'm worried about today though, with her getting overlapped again. It's fucking ridiculous that they seem to keep enroaching on her territory for literally no reason
>>33710033For that those 5 from EN3 have to be Gura fans loyalist like Fauna.
HOW TO BE BIGGER THAN VERSENStep 1. Grab an xqc profile PictureStep 2. Wait for xqc to not streamStep 3. Name your channel something close to xqcStep 4. Watch some tiktoks while making random commentary sometimes(facecam not needed)Congratulations you're bigger than Versen.
>>33710033Honestly hope rye gets in after watching a few of her streams thanks to rye Schizo. Seems she is chumbud who likes Japanese music so she is already better than 90% of the talent pool.
>>33710181Honestly we are in the timeline that will require people to have a professional license to stream soon. Everything will be regulated eventually, even the internet and we are in the twilight years of internet freedom as everything gets closer to corporatism over individuals.
>>33710159BASED
>>33710319>twitch whore
>>33710159Holy based
>>33709757>provides no proof of harassmentJesus it's like Anita Sarkeesian tier bullshit.
>>33710089
>>33708786Trying too hard Last Samurai
>>33710102Stfu I'm watching my Welcome memba mugyu mugyu wife getting fucked over some squid game.
>>33709365 I think the real question is who own nobuhime thia character.
>>33710268>the rest of the world is unnecessarily combative when provided bad service.>No you faggot, it's the fucking opposite.You retard, read the complete sentence>The point is not "the rest of the world is unnecessarily combative when provided bad service"You are replying to the post as if I was saying the point is that, but it isn't. For fuck sake, lrn2read
>>33710159Based based based
nijisis, where are you? please watch our queen
>>33710319dont talk about yourself in third person, ryeschizo
Kronii solo unpacking: 9kMumei unarchived karaoke(45 minutes): 15k (while overlapping each other)Kronii/Mumei collab: 8kPeople just hate kronmei huh
>>33709991She did mention things related to her on stream tho, the most recent example is when fans wondered why she didn't do bikini stream on her channel during HoloSummer.
>>33710224I think Jap laws prevent them from firing or something. I am not sure.
>>3371040510k floor
>>33709432she even has more 1mil+ songs on other people's channels.That place might be cursed
>>33709984anon you are either shitposting or retarded and know nothing about how US tipping culture works in practice.
>>33710098What is her peak in this stream?
>>33710381It's not being a last samurai or whatever, don't you feel pathetic trying to prop up EN's pathetic numbers beside actual gold on the numbers thread, where big numbers is the king?
>>33710405sisters... the 10k floor became true...
>>33710416>People just hate kronmei huhNo it's actually the most popular council ship even if Fauna has more chemistry with Mumei
>>33710089I don't want to shit on them. But the part where En viewers were just calling everything not minecraft a debuff content was a sign for sure.
>>33710448I saw 5.5k at one point
>>33710311That’s would be 30 viewers stream on YT if you transfer the streamer and viewers exactly.
>>33710275No, gleipnir is not a death game, it's a fucking battle manga with a weird take.
>>33710459Mumei has more chemistry with just about everyone than kronii desu.
>>33710381Kek, ENkeks are pathetic, just face reality already.
>>33710416Kronii just made kronmei weird
>>33710225She's still pocketing it
>>33710275>Uh... isn't that just ripoff Danganronpa?Not really. It is VISCERAL, sticky, naked, violent and gruesome in a way I don't even know how that was approved for all audiences.See this except>Gleipnir episode 2-Fight scenehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP13KkZnyeMFemale to female "almost rape" there is the real deal too, no punches pulled.It's a pity they only did the anime to shill the manga / LN
>>33710489That's still bigger than versen lol.
>>33710425>on stream thoon which stream did she talk about the Roberu collab?
>>33710225well since the company is dead, I believe she got all the money from Nobuhime's channel.
The biggest NijiEN female used to be 3k, with the average stream in the 1-2k range.Now the biggest NijiEN female is 5k, with the average stream in the 2-3k range. Enna has gone from a 1-2k streamer, to a 4-5k streamerSelen has gone from a 2-3k streamer, to a 3-4k streamerPomu has gone from a 1-2k streamer, to a 3k streamerRosemi has gone from a 1-2k streamer, to a 2-3k streamerEveryone is inclining a lot. Many people doubling their viewership. The top NijiEN talents are starting to overlap the bottom HoloEN talents. And yet I hear everyone talking about "NijiEN recline".They went from being 1/5 of the average HoloEN talent, to being 1/3. Soon they'll be 1/2. That's a pretty big deal, to be half the size of the largest EN vtuber group in the world. It means there's now a real alternative to HoloEN, it's no longer a complete monopoly. And that's a great thing for the entire vtuber world.
Your en3 candidates:Adrianah lee, kiarakitty, neekolul, qtcinderella, justaminxTake it and leave.
>>33710225maybe the owners are getting funneled money by people who forgot to cancel it.also it's probably not a duet, tamaki is probably just referencing nobuhime because of the song's lyrics.
>>33710159Based af
>>33710554No thanks, graduate the whole branch.
>>33710554I don't know these whores
>>33709984The pressure is there to tip because the restaurants don't pay their workers minimum wage, so not tipping at all is viewed as an assault on the entire structure supporting the workers' livelihood. Just think of the minimum tip as a sort of tax that has nothing at all to do with service.
>>33710159But anon, you're watching this thread
>>33710554>qtcinderellaOh man, can you imagine the shitshow. She will literally sink hololive within a month.
>>33710268>>33710479>views match her ccv peak>12k likesSomething isn't adding up. Ah well we're not really numberfagging over in Triangle just figured it was something you guys would like to see and laugh at.
>>33710426nope, granted its a lot harder than in the us but in japan they still have that social pressure that translates into the window culture even for people that are very incompetent that prevents them from firing them.
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1572290978173820930?t=nHMEhuhU0mKUc3e7rFXAkw&s=19Why did nobody talk about this? Ad revenue probably isn't much for a Holo anyway.
On the other hand, collabing with males inclines you to mid 3 view.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQwSJr_cZw
>>33710479Well good for her.Hope she can incline more as an indie.
>>33710541no gimmick no numbers
>>33710590good fucking point anon
>>33710541You're kinda right. Individually NijiEN are flops compared to HoloEN but as a whole they are competitive. The accelerate strategy always worked but not to the benefit of the individual niji talent.
>>33710311>Comparing yt and twitch numbers
>>33710416Story coop games seem to be debuff games in general, except for the luxiem fujos for whatever reason
>33710541This is an obvious shitpost.>And yet I hear everyone talking about "NijiEN recline"
>>33710541The time it took you to type this, we will spend 1/100th of it to call you a an indiot
>>33710554I'll take the crazy irish bitch over the other whos. Actually, she should skinwalk ame
>>33710554Yes please, so that these whores commit a yab and make the whole EN branch graduate. T'would be perfect.
>>33710614people did talk about it. Yesterday.
>>33710614Interesting, pekora can finally play Drake's music in her stream.
>>33710128I'm not talking about number anon. And also you're talking about pillar in the way that they're the face of company? What i'm talking about in the first place is the kind of pillar that can wrangle the girl behind the scene, they can include the Homo or not at all, they're the kind that HoloEN need rn. That's why i mention Coco and Marine, fuck Marine is even the pillar for some of the EN girl.
INCLININGJoke aside, has any NijiJP did a raid outside of karaoke relay?
>>33710397I misquoted your post, my bad, but the rest of your post is fucking wrong.Tipping culture started on high level establishment on Europe so that rich client can show off how generous they are.Unfortunately americans run with this idea and turn it into an excuse to not pay their worker a living wage.
>>33710405Wait ... if it is today she would have lost to Ame's meme stream ...
>>33710048Seethe at reality pagpag Schizo.
last samurais/nousagis continue to act like 2019 nijiniggers. can't wait for it to all come tumbling down.
>>33710554I would do literally anything for Adriana Figuero to join EN3. She would absolutely fucking feast. I genuinely think she could even overtake Gura.
>>33710541Talk about Luxiem's decline then, Selen posterLuxiem is their one and only important branchnijien Girls don't matter
>>33709473This is the magic of vtubers. You can't say Nobuhime = Polka becaue they're different people who have different experiences and relationship on stream. Same with Coco = Kson.
>>33710725Continue eating your turd then 35pagpag.
>>33710596Big chunk of her audience is non Japanese, mostly Taiwanese but a lot of US and SEA too.She's culled, like all those with international audiences.Simple as that.https://playboard.co/en/video/3D6YvX_w-C0playboard has her Live2D debut at 7k$ btw.
>>33710731i know right, my fellow hololive, truly despicable liver fans
>>33710756How many layers of makeup does she have on here
>>33710756eeh, Mel is 100 times cuter than herWhere is her 1Mil
>>33710731Oh shut up and stop being so butthurt at people pointing out the EN recline and pathetic performance in the numbers thread.
>>337097098k is absolute normal numbers for Kronii you absolute jungle ape.As always, the animals in this dogshit general are the ones that know the least about numbers and don't watch vtubers
>>33710614a bit too late after they tanked song views from channels who stream too.Ayame's 20 mil views down the drain.
>>33710838You sounds mad last samuraiJust take it easy
>>33710700Waiters that are incapable of earning a living from tips probably doesn't deserve a 'living wage' or the minimum wage for that matter
>>33710731Anytime now sis
>>33710529Are you gonna keep moving that goalpost forever?
>>33710854seethe, tourist. Go back to /hlgg/ or /cope/
>>33710854NIGGA ITS A COLLAB WITH MUMEI, YOU KNOW THE STRONGEST COUNCIL SHIPgod why are EN tards so defensive
>>33710405smallest Z on salome stream?
>>33710731>nousagisHuh? Who the hell are you fighting anon? Are you okay?
>>33710854>1 POV collabAre you retarded or just acting?
>>33710689WTF is this? Raid?
>>33710097They all sold plenty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAAxsv4rq_41.5k nowinclining?
>>33710887nah maybe just you bro. its okay maybe EN3 might save the branch or whatever
>>33710689as far as i know no but theres to many to track.the pressure might be on nijien only since they are expected to 3ple their numbers by the end of the quarter.
>>33710756Surprised more anime and vidya cover singers don't become vtubers. We only have Ren in Niji, Irys in HoloEN, and AmaLee is indie (although she's way bigger than a regular cover singer now). Girls like Kyoresu, Sapphire, and Nyanners.
>>33710919Hey Unicorn fags, she seems like someone who needs help. She has not collabed with male either, go there
>>33710756Why do white women looks like they are in their 50s?
nothing's saving EN, the fad is dead for westerners
>>33710919>Not even 14k without the Z
>another thread trying to claim JP fans hate EN now by linking a bunch of matome and schizo blog postsWhat's with this new angle? Did they realize that Twitter is not on their side?
>>33710814heavy filters too
>>33710561It's a solo cover, but she is in the description as special thanks with some other people, probably some background vocals
>>33710854>8k is normal for a single pov kronii/mumei collabCongrats on somehow being dumber than the average # poster
>>33710700>americans run with this idea and turn it into an excuse to not pay their worker a living wageBased. Why pay a worker a living wage when there are others who are willing to take jobs lower than a living wage? Why pay livers salaries when they are willing to enter Nijisanji without being paid salaries? Anycolor made much more profit than Cover who waste their expenses into salaries. Nijilivers work hard while Hololivers are just lazying around.
>>33710686Anon, Marine couldn't even wrangle her own gen
>>33710773continue seething at Miko's utter success from your mudhut PagPagschizo. You are below us as always.
>>33710990She already did anon.
EN3 will save EN like how the third gen saved JP and ID
>>33710854>stacked buffs>normal numbersThat's the fucking problem retardShe can run with her shenanigans if she can actually bring home the numbers, what we're getting so far are pathetic in all levels
>>33710032And yet more proof IDOLSHITTERS are nothing but an obnoxious loud minority.MUH IDOLE FUNA, MUH LAST BASTION MOOMIGo fuck yourselves. You are not Hololive's target audience and never will.
>>33710896>moving that goalpost foreverhere's how the conversation went.>>33709539>I'm not talking about this board reaction anon, come on now, don't believe the MOST INFLUENTIAL BOARD bullshit.>Suityan even addressed it on stream, though most of the dissenting voice either begrudgingly accepted it or left her.>>33709881>"Address" is a wrong word for it, maybe more in the line of "mention".>>33710425>She did mention things related to her on stream tho>>33710529 (me)>on which stream did she talk about the Roberu collab?
>>33711037shit, no worries. We will find one for them
>>33710990her first fucking collab was with fucking oliver
>>33711019Where? If anything JP are just indifferent to ENs in the same way with IDs because of the langauge barrier and having enough holos in their own language.
>>33711039With EN management and how they push homos, EN3 is more likely to be final nail in coffin.
Toya managed to avoid Kuzuha's Z
>>33710962Not nearly enough to sellout. Which then myth and JP members does all the time, some cases in seconds for thousands of items
>>33711034If you're talking about that one then who the fuck can? Fubuki? Yagoo? Sor.. lmao
>>33711008More like western entertainment is decliningThey can't compete with Japanese games, anime ,KPOP anymore
come on, mods. just nuke /#/ once and for all. it deserves the /meat/ and /ringo/ treatment at this point.
>>33710895No, I'm saying that americans turned tips from simple sign of gratitude to fucking law, just so the service industry could pay their workers less, and americans citizen are expected to shoulder the cost.
>>33711122Tempus is EN3 I'm so sorry
>>33708786Even SEA wants to be JP.JP is the golden standard.As an EOP, I will humble myself and kneel to the JP chads.Please bless my EN oshis so that they stay pure.
>>33710962The fuck? mumei mogs every council in merch sales. How did i not know this?
>>33711154You want your oshi split to be full of number shitposts anon? Be our guest.
>>33711154Not our problem you lack the mental fortitude to filter baitposts with your mind
>>33711154seethe, globalbaby. People are talking about vtubers, sorry your feelings are hurt.
>>33711019>>33711106those are the regular jp schizos who always try to find reasons to attack starsjp, theyre the same people who harassed miyabi and those other 2 quit. they are just using the starsen drama as a reason to start hounding them again.
>>33711019>link 5ch posts as evidence that Japan prefers holoEN to holoJP>link 5ch posts as evidence that Japan now prefers holoJP to holoENMatome screen caps has always been shitposting, why do you care all of a sudden?
>>33711137KEK, the hell happen here
>>33711153>japanese gamesbeen largely irrelevant since 2005>animeniche of niche in the west when it comes to entertainment>kpopcall me when a kpop act headlines glastonbury or something
>>33711167With how retarded EN management is, I wouldn't be suprised if they thought like that.
>>33711174Western culture will never give you EN holos as good as JP
>>33711036Still waiting for the skin of your successful leeching whore.
>>33710405sisters don't watch salami, only tourists do
>>33711154Fuck you faggot. How many bait threads can be disprove by simply posting numbers from here. That’s the main reason people want to nuke this thread
>>33711154Ringo I understand because it was full of pedophiles, but meat didn't deserve the bonk
>>33711154why does everyone hate us bros
>>33711039>ID3Do you see Kobo's shit numbers nowadays?
>>33711137>>33711223It ain't gay if they ain't touching.
>>33711031I love how fucking susceptible burgers are to propaganda, they're literally on par with zhangs but they're too blind to notice.
>>33710032AIIIIEEEE MY GREEN WHORE
>>33711230and the probabilities are lower with the current state of the branch
>>33711167I know we're all fucking around but this is my biggest fear right now.
>>33710102Watching Kenmochi playing horuge Torauma Gokko so no thanks you
>>33711154You want all these fucking trolls to be loose?No numbers discussion is happening right now, it's just a assemblage of skitzos from around vt baiting each other that would infest the board instead.If you want actual numbers talk, come back in ~2 more hours.
>>33711254Probably because baitposters lurk here for material.
Seems like Sega is experimenting by sponsoring NijiEN zatsu streams and having them play an ad at some point in the stream.
>>33711167they wouldn't be that stupid...right?
/#/ has made me genuinely dislike holoJP. good work.
>>33711260ID3 injected numbers for the branch anon you should try to remember what pre ID3 numbers were usually like
>>33711333You keep saying that in every thread anon. Come up with a better material.
>>33711333Success breeds hatred
>>33711333Did you ever actually watch or like holoJP, falseflagger?
>>33711333you have tried this shitpost for 3 days now
>>33710405GRIM 13.6k without Z broken 15k line going 10k
>>33711213Those are taken from Holo central JP side anon. 90% of posters there cares/likes hololive. And the EN sentiment is similar to other threads there and has been for a few months now.Its more or less a /vt/ equivalent, so of course you're not going to see those on JP twitter or something
>>33711266Different flavors of retardation anon
>>33711314Why did they bother to do this with fucking Reimu she's a 3view
>>33711079>"Suisei doesn't address drama or fan bullshit">When she did address the lewd arts and holosummerI'll try to find the exact stream and timestamp, but I can't help but think you're arguing in bad faith.
>>33710700Anon, the main point doesn't connect with that one. The main point is that the service worker in North America, EXACTLY because the customer is on the hook for his compensation regardless of quality of service, is not expected to provide good service as there is no reward structure for that.Service workers in the US will, as people mentioned, PUNISH the customers by spitting on their food (at best) if they feel like the customer is not compensating them enough.That is absolutely unheard in the rest of the world where the tipping culture is a way to compensate exceptional service. Service workers will go above and beyond to impress their patrons so they can be compensated with big tips.The parallel with the vtuber mismatch in culture between North America and the rest of the world is exactly that>North American vtubers will "spit on the customers food" by purposely antagonizing their audience and doing the opposite of what they are requesting (looking at you here, Ame) if they feel the "customer" is being entitled>in the rest of the world they will consider what the audience is requesting with respect because if they manage to provide exceptional service they will get exceptional rewardsAgain, I expect North Americans to consider the first approach the correct one and the rest of the world to consider the second the correct one and I am trying to make a point that this irreconcilable chasm between both audiences is what is causing this friction in the HoloEN branch
>>33711313How is that this thread's problem? I am so confused why people can't just ignore obvious bait, and even let it influence their opinion of vtubers
I'm just mad that /jp/ was proven fucking right about HoloEN, even if it was 2 years late.
>>33709473https://youtu.be/JaNS_-s3pBgNobuhime is not singing, it's just Tamaki adding her as part of the MV as an homage.Which makes me even more confused as for why Tamaki refuses to collab with Polka yet continues referencing Nobuhime
>>33711394she's cheap anyway
>>33711414maybe you should go back to /jp/ instead of shitting up /vt/ then.
>>33710554i just want at least 1 or 2 motivated 2views who will stream twice a day 6 days a week
>>33711333
>>33711391i thought you were talking about the schizos who were planning to harassing starsjp again.
>>33711230They don't have to be as good as JP, even a fraction is good enough.Having five second-army tier EN chuubas for EN3 would be more than satisfactory
>>33707836>current friction between EN audience amd global audienceTouch fucking grass and get off of 4chan for 15 minutes. There is no friction. You are taking shit posting (you) farmers a little too seriously.Remember the old time rule....."take nothing posted here as fact"
>>33711314Jezas, the budget is even smaller than I previously thought
>>33711406jesus christ of all the retarded shit in this thread you are still stuck with your retarded esay analogies with service workers and vtuebrs since the last thread or some shit I barely tldr'd your whole discussion
>>33711166They should, waiters are ripping off the public if they're allowed to double dip normal wages (as every other worker there) and extra tips from generous customers just because they happened to be somewhere visible
>>33711394It's not just Reimu, Mysta is also doing it, and presumably some other NijiEN zatsus this week might get the same treatment
Numbers thread again proves to be incredibly useless with the exception of the tally posters, chart posters and actual horserace hours
>>33711426Because it kills kayfabe/immersion/etc. and you should really consider them as different people at this point. thats the point of vtubers
>>33711406>the service worker in North America is not expected to provide good service as there is no reward structure for that.Hey burger, what do you think tips are?Even on the article you quoted there are lines that said customers only expected to tip more if they're provided with good service.Is that not a fucking reward structure?
>>33711352>ID1 Japan tour hype fading>Kobo decliningI don't know manSeems like their numbers will back to 1k~3k in two weeks
So if we assume Regis floor viewership is around 1k, that means only 4k of Kobos viewers tuned in for the collabmaybe less because it would be buff content for blue boy viewers
>>33711426because nobuhime is a dog whistle to fat polka and tamaki is an architect who wants the old polka back.
>>33711516I wonder why they aren't doing it with their butt buddies HoloJP
reminder that you will never be japanese and that they hate your gaijin ass
>>33711533Its pretty useful, i find most of my bait material here.
>>33711597>you will never be japanesegood, I didn't ask for it.
>>33711597Good because I hate them too
>>33711597
>>33711122i don't know why people keep pushing the EN management angle when it's clear the girls that collab want to collab with the dudes.If collabs were management mandated Gura, Irys, Fauna, Ina, etc. would've already been forced to do one.
>>33711592cheaper
>>33711592https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/06/sega-announces-sonic-collab-with-hololive-vtuber-star-inugami-korone?
>>33710541>NijiEN is stealing all HoloEN's audience>Cover desperately tries to replicate the Niji formulaif someone told me this was going to happen..
>>33711553Regis floor is 1k but 2-3k show up for his buff content and 5k show up for his mega super super buff content like first Minecraft/handcam/Cello. So really only like 2500 of Kobos fans showed up, which makes sense. She only got like 5K today and most of them probably went to bed by now since it's 11 PM in Indon.
>>33711546>Hey burger, what do you think tips are?In the US? A mix between the mandatory supplement of the service workers wage to the tune of 10% of your bill and the eventual reward.That's unique in the world, in the rest of the world the tip is optional and just the reward>>33711488>I barely tldr'd your whole discussionHere is the tl;dr>EN vtubers are American service workers: they'll spit on your food the next time you show up if you don't tip them 15% even if they served you cold food>non EN vtubers are italian fancy restaurant service workers: they'll put their absolute A game if you look rich because they know you'll leave them a 100 bucks tip if they do so
>>33711466that's a cute boy
>>33711414>JPsharts act like Rushia drama didn't happen>JPsharts act like FBK, Matsuri, Suisei...didn't collab with homos before
>>33711592Because they're targeting an English-speaking audience with this initiative.
>>33711570Fuck off Norio, you can't have fat polka back.
>>33711697>SuiseiIn two years, once in a live stream, 3 times in song collabs
>>33711314I remember raid shadow legends doing something similar but they discontinued it.
>>33711139Not even myth is fully sold out on omocatRemaining stock:holoMyth T-Shirt - S , 0holoMyth T-Shirt - M , 354holoMyth T-Shirt - L , 0holoMyth T-Shirt - XL , 0holoMyth T-Shirt - XXL , 0holoMyth T-Shirt - 3XL , 0KFP Hoodie - S , 136KFP Hoodie - M , 199KFP Hoodie - L , 0KFP Hoodie - XL , 0KFP Hoodie - XXL , 0KFP Hoodie - 3XL , 0KFP Ringer Shirt - S , 0KFP Ringer Shirt - M , 0KFP Ringer Shirt - L , 0KFP Ringer Shirt - XL , 0KFP Ringer Shirt - XXL , 0PIXEL KIARA Pocket T-Shirt - S , 90PIXEL KIARA Pocket T-Shirt - M , 0PIXEL KIARA Pocket T-Shirt - L , 0PIXEL KIARA Pocket T-Shirt - XL , 0PIXEL KIARA Pocket T-Shirt - XXL , 0WAH! Sweater - S , 0WAH! Sweater - M , 0WAH! Sweater - L , 0WAH! Sweater - XL , 0WAH! Sweater - XXL , 0WAH! Sweater - 3XL , 0TAKODACHI T-Shirt - S , 0TAKODACHI T-Shirt - M , 0TAKODACHI T-Shirt - L , 0TAKODACHI T-Shirt - XL , 0TAKODACHI T-Shirt - XXL , 0PIXEL INA'NIS Pocket T-Shirt - S , 36PIXEL INA'NIS Pocket T-Shirt - M , 18PIXEL INA'NIS Pocket T-Shirt - L , 138PIXEL INA'NIS Pocket T-Shirt - XL , 180PIXEL INA'NIS Pocket T-Shirt - XXL , 59PIXEL INA'NIS Pocket T-Shirt - XXXL , 74GAWR GURA Track Jacket - S , 0GAWR GURA Track Jacket - M , 0GAWR GURA Track Jacket - L , 0GAWR GURA Track Jacket - XL , 0GAWR GURA Track Jacket - XXL , 0APEX PREDATOR T-Shirt - S , 0APEX PREDATOR T-Shirt - M , 34APEX PREDATOR T-Shirt - L , 0APEX PREDATOR T-Shirt - XL , 24APEX PREDATOR T-Shirt - XXL , 3APEX PREDATOR T-Shirt - 3XL , 0PIXEL GURA Pocket T-Shirt - S , 157PIXEL GURA Pocket T-Shirt - M , 214PIXEL GURA Pocket T-Shirt - L , 253PIXEL GURA Pocket T-Shirt - XL , 74PIXEL GURA Pocket T-Shirt - XXL , 47PIXEL GURA Pocket T-Shirt - 3XL , 57WATSON AMELIA Hoodie - S , 0WATSON AMELIA Hoodie - M , 0WATSON AMELIA Hoodie - L , 0WATSON AMELIA Hoodie - XL , 0WATSON AMELIA Hoodie - XXL , 0WATSON AMELIA Hoodie - 3XL , 0TEAMATES T-Shirt - S , 0TEAMATES T-Shirt - M , 0TEAMATES T-Shirt - L , 0TEAMATES T-Shirt - XL , 0TEAMATES T-Shirt - XXL , 0TEAMATES T-Shirt - 3XL , 0PIXEL AMELIA Pocket T-Shirt - S , 220PIXEL AMELIA Pocket T-Shirt - M , 453PIXEL AMELIA Pocket T-Shirt - L , 265PIXEL AMELIA Pocket T-Shirt - XL , 0PIXEL AMELIA Pocket T-Shirt - XXL , 70PIXEL AMELIA Pocket T-Shirt - 3XL , 54DEADBEATS Track Jacket - S , 97DEADBEATS Track Jacket - M , 0DEADBEATS Track Jacket - L , 0DEADBEATS Track Jacket - XL , 0DEADBEATS Track Jacket - XXL , 0DEADBEATS Splatter T-Shirt - S , 0DEADBEATS Splatter T-Shirt - M , 0DEADBEATS Splatter T-Shirt - L , 0DEADBEATS Splatter T-Shirt - XL , 0DEADBEATS Splatter T-Shirt - XXL , 0DEADBEATS Splatter T-Shirt - 3XL , 0PIXEL CALLIOPE Pocket T-Shirt - S , 228PIXEL CALLIOPE Pocket T-Shirt - M , 137PIXEL CALLIOPE Pocket T-Shirt - L , 215PIXEL CALLIOPE Pocket T-Shirt - XL , 155PIXEL CALLIOPE Pocket T-Shirt - XXL , 16PIXEL CALLIOPE Pocket T-Shirt - XXXL , 18
>>33711705>NijiEN>English-speaking audience
>>33711410Why do you expect anyone to give a shit? to other thread lurkers, this thread generates bait materials, that means less bait would be generated or shared in a centralized manner if the thread is nuked, regardless of the feelings of numberfags. Why even waste the effort to filter baits
>>33711705then surely sponsoring nijiEN(CN) makes even less sense
>>3371167119-2
>>33711705>nijiEN audience>english speakingholoJP probably has more english speakers in its audience than they do.
>>33711597>reminder that you will never be japaneseThank fucking god, it must suck to watch life in 16:9 ratio.
>>33711597>you will never be japaneseDoes global still think that this is an insult?
>>33711677Thanks for the serious reply man but holy shit lay off the analogies for a bit jesus.
>>33711729>It doesn't count
>>3371175218-2-1 halschizo
>>33711732>I remember raid shadow legends doing something similarWell .... >This post is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends, one of the biggest mobile role-playing games of 2019 and it's totally free!>Currently almost 10 million users have joined Raid over the last six months, and it's one of the most impressive games in its class with detailed models, environments and smooth 60 frames per second animations!>All the champions in the game can be customized with unique gear that changes your strategic buffs and abilities!>The dungeon bosses have some ridiculous skills of their own and figuring out the perfect party and strategy to overtake them's a lot of fun!>Currently with over 300,000 reviews, Raid has almost a perfect score on the Play Store!
Why the fuck are people talking about fucking burgers or someshit.
>>33711732It's the usual sponsoring system for short videos but doing it for streams is what's rare.How long until we get "this stream is soonsore by NordVPN"
>>33711734what the hell is a pocket t shit.
>>33711646Because it's easier for them to think that the management forced the girls rather than that's what the girls wanted.
>>33711805It does absolutely count. It doesn't impact her usual content the littlest tho.
>>33711822t shirt that has a poket in the chest area
>>33711822https://www.omocat-shop.com/collections/omocat-x-hololive-en/products/pixel-gura-pocket-t-shirt
>>33711734They restocked
>>33710614Does that mean - karaoke is now viable income stream? or still need permission
>>33711808seethe more nijinigger
Great retention.
>>33711816probably sooner or later. IPO forces the management to go profit hungry. So any sponsorship will suffice
>>33711677But you're expected to tips 20% or more if you got a good service, right?That's a "reward structure", you're "rewarding" good service with more tip.>in the rest of the world the tip is optionalYou can try to tip in Europe or Japan, I guarantee you they would feel insulted more than rewarded.
>>33711734Myth got restocks dumbass. They did sell out. I swear being here makes you faggots dumber.
jesus, /#/ is becoming a shitfest. even twitchsharts are here god knows why
>>33711811>>33711816no i mean the sponsorships in between streams i saw them do it in a couple of local fleshstreamers i watched.
>paying someone to shill for 1,000 viewersThat CANT be worth much right? I feel like you could spend like 100 bucks to shill to tens of thousands of people easily.
>>33711928>becoming
>>33711896better than last time. That was quite a bleed from kobo
KNEEL TO TOMORROW'S GOLD!
>>33711742People are extremely naive if they think nuking this thread would make even a dent in the shit quality of this board. It might make it even worse since all the schizos will scatter to the four winds
>>33711938nijiEN is heavily culled. we only see a fraction of their viewers.
>>33711887I mean if the vod is just gonna get deleted you might as well just split all the ad revenue on the vod to all the artists you're singing songs of.
>JPSharts acted like Noel didn't fuck a fucking dildo live on stream
>>33711955>only 33knice silver
>>33711955Anon...
>>33711333Last Samurai are more obnoxious than any Nijikek I have ever come across.
>>33711955Oh nice, I didn't know that Pekora announced that she is playing DQM.
Another day, another gold for Hololive
>>33710089> headcanon wasn't accepted until it had numbers backing it upHow surprising
actual EN fag meltdown because his side isnt "winning" lmao
>>33711974link?
When is prime time jp?
>>33710159Absolutely based
>>33711913>You can try to tip in Europe or Japan, I guarantee you they would feel insulted more than rewarded.I live in fucking Europe, retard. I know how tips work here, SPECIALLY in expensive places.There is no tipping culture in regular restaurants, your average service worker is paid enough not to need your fucking fiver, thank you very much.But in expensive enough restaurants, leaving your waiter a hundred is a GREAT way to have the most spectacular service the next time you come back to the same restaurant, which you will, because of the virtuous cycle of reward and service
>>33711974How's the cuckening from Enna?
I wonder how many posts will be gone if a single IP gets banned again
So, will Moona, Risu and Iofi become 10k+ streamers after their big days in Japan? The whole holobox was watching them and the first army rolled the red carpet out for them too. Surely this will incline them to the moon.
>>33711955Off collab Pekomoon
>>33711884>>33711923And as you said earlier they should have been able to sell out no problem, the restocks were a long time ago.
>>33710541See you next year reclining anon
>>33712054JP*
>>33712054This Hololive.
>>33711887you might still need perms and you might also get hit by yt retarded copyright bot if its a vod.
>>33712066Like fucking hours ago anon.
>>337120664 hours ago
>>33711019Look at both tallies anon, we're in a position where Holo will win both with 20+ golds. This is the only way they can shitpost now - to pretend that this thread was purely about biggest number and nothing else. They did the same thing when Shien mogged nijien with FGO yesterday
>>33711955It's going to slip to Tamaki's anniversary concert when Polka appears as a surprise guest.
>>33710962This is just pathetic, noone sold out their shirts and hoodies except mumei.
>>33712033That's just Luxiemkeks trying to detract thread from shitting on Luxiem's declining numbers
>>33711697ENfags wish Kroniis collabs were like Suiseis or FubukisAnd literally no one wants their oshi to be like Matsuri lol
>>33712108half of thread
>>33711955Oh look it's this lazy motherfucker who streams twice a month and still can't even make a decent thumbnail despite all that free time.
>>33711758>vox's foot stool
>>33711333This unironically but with EN as a whole. Go make some cripple /#/ for fuck's sake you fags are absolutely worthless.I'm so fucking sick of your homo dramas and reclining talents, you aren't even worth my time. Even Ina whom I used to like is now irrelevant to my eyes and I wouldn't care less about her even if she were to graduate tomorrow.
I wonder why Irys, one of the most unicorn friendly EN holos, is struggling to hit 5K these days.Fellow unicorn niggers, what's happening to us?
>>33712107Baffling post.
>>33712126>>33712128I meant what time frame, from what hour to what hour?
>>33712054>Another day, another Holo gold>Another day sisters larp and seethe
>>33711913>in the rest of the world the tip is optional>You can try to tip in Europe or Japan, I guarantee you they would feel insulted more than rewardedYou can tip in Europe, nobody would feel insulted by it. It's unexpected but not unwelcome.
>>33712121
>>33710731> ENsharts can't take the bantztry molting once in a while, might get you thicker skin
>>33712178you're free to go back to /jp/ if you want, ken-sama.
>>33712118>EN: 19:2>JP: 18:2:1EN wins
I would actually laugh if NijiMaid bans /#/ because Hololive just won too much this month.
>>33711026I mean, she killed all the shippers with her retarded rant, so I wasn't surprised about this recline.
>>33712174I'll be honest, even gayer than Vox's >deep dick pozzais Chicago's>deep dish pizzaHere is the deal, Chicago niggers>pizza is supposed to be flatIf your pizza is "deep", it is not a pizza, it is a pie.Damn Chicago niggers
>>33712178You maybe shitposting but /#/ needs an actual split for the cripples. Even the indos had the decency to split away.
>>33712182>most unicorn friendlythats a weird way to spell gura anon
>>33712182>open stream>female ogre shows up on screen>close stream>don't recommend any videos from this channel
>>33712085That's my point you euretard, tipping outside of US is a special case, not "optional".Of course you would be expected to tip in expensive establishment, even kabakura do tipping culture.
>>33712084>holocuck deflectiondelicious
>>33712182AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEE MY GOBLIN WAIFU YAMEROOOOO
>>33711019learn how shitposting meta works anon
>>33711482There is one issue that is true>EN and JP audiences don't really have a true 'bridge'Like her or hate her, Coco brought both branches together with her dumb reddit shit, and the sense of unity was good for everyone. If you were a jpnigger, this is THE WORST POSSIBLE THING, but if you were a Hololive fan, it was great, even if the memes were retarded it really helped bring the fans of both branches closer together. The loss of Coco, the debut of Council, and finally the release of Holox really ended up separating the fanbases a lot. I don't think Hololive will ever manage to get another Coco though, the mix of talents to serve as that kind of bridge is ridiculously hard to come by, and I'm not sure even Cover's scouting could manage to pull a second rabbit outta the hat like that.
>>33712235at this point maybe it's for the best
>>33711955PekoMoon or Pekora Minecraft will beat this shitty amount of viewers senselessly.
>>33712235The last time a janny tried to fuck with /#/ they got fired within the day
>>33711154> ENsharks absolutely assblasted
>>33712260>That's my point you euretard, tipping outside of US is a special case, not "optional".Wait, don't that mean that you are agreeing with me, except very combatively?Well done, retard
>>33712121Theres a male in between La+ and matsuri though
>>33712182>part 4 of fucking RE1>Still hits 5kDamn, IRyS is pretty strong
>>33712235A ENfag janny might kill this general soon if it doesn't stop shitting on HoloEN and their pathetic numbers
>>33712182seething irystomeido
>>33712269HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DEFLECTION FROM NIJICN, How's the picture from Millie to Alban? Did she spread eagle on that?
>>33712317why couldn't cover save her, lads?
>>33711254The board needs a boogeyman to function anon.
>>33712182How her numbers looked before? natural recline maybe, she takes a lot of breaks due to recordings, also she has talked a lot about guys on her stream so is not THAT unicorn friendly
>>33712330Lmfao. >>33712182This just proved that possibility happening.
>>33712219>JP: 18:2:1nice try halschizo
Reminder that out of the 6 streams (5 if you don't count Amelia's shitty click bait) a jp speaking English mogged two if them, and was on the way to mog the 3rd stream... And that's during a shitty time frame for EOPs to watch her, puts into perspective how shitty that branch has become
>>33712255No I'm not shitposting, that's my genuine thought.
>>33712277nah its>>33711213>>33711467
>>33711705> English-speaking audience*mostly you mean
>>33711426>why Tamaki refuses to collab with Polka yet continues referencing NobuhimeAssuming the rrats are true, it makes perfect sense. Norio supposedly hates re-incarnation, seeing it as betraying the fans. If that's the case, she'd obviously take umbrage with Polka, but still think of Nobuhime fondly.
>>33712235> This monthI can only see the streak continue to next months as well since we will probably have new Gen, Among US collabs, Birthdays, 3D lives and first army can literally revive any game and make it a buffWhat does Niji have??
>>33712108Depends, probably at minimum 20+ bait posts, more if you hit the correct IP.Start by hitting the posts that star the JP vs EN dumbfuckery like the dumb "JPchad" shit (cringe, bro) and you probably get the biggest chunk of posts though
So have the nukes fall off yet or what? I haven't left this thread for hours.
>>33712278as the resident disillusioned tatsunoko I need to chime in on this. EN fag always thought Coco was the "bridge" but she was extremely JP centric and used EN fags to her own benefit. It was a one way funnel from EN to JP.
>>33712321Depends, are you this >>33711406 retard?
>>33712178Honestly just ban discussion of streams below 10k I'm so sick of reading about 3k CCV NijiEN or Tempus streams here all day
>>33712353Because she was a shitty person who tried to talk shit about another vtuber but then shat her pants the moment she got criticized back.Im glad holofags had the decency to run her out of their company. Now if only they could do something about that bandwagon fag Luna.
Here's the latest update of these two decline talents subscriber gap
>>33712436>new GenJP7? It's far too early for ID4.
>>33711705>English-speaking audience
>>33712442Soon my brethren. Those with guns will feast after the fallout.
>>33712464dead subs duo.
>>33712361fuck off already you timelooping retard, why are you so obsessed with gaslighting the thread into thinking a vtuber tournament gold doesn't count?
>>33712360he got sent to the shadow realm by saying the n word
>>3371210820+ if its me kek
>>33712463aaah, so its a new workaround to say no EN3Gotchaa
>>33712417But Tamaki already collabed with Luna
>>33711314Wait is this true? That sounds scummy as fuck from Niji to even accept that. Oh wait they're profit driven now lmao. I remembered last year saying they could earn a lot of money putting ads during stream which are unslippable if it's manually inserted by the streamer but I didn't even think they would do that
>>33712360More like the dumb faggot was shitposting in other places and got smacked by a janny after they reported him for trolling.
>janny was a irystocrapyikes
>>33711697Fubuki, Matsuri and Suisei never lied to their fans and never flipflopped about their position on male collabs.Most of all, the HoloJP corporate account has never had to wipe their ass for problems they created.
>>33712504take your meds halschizo
We get SalomeYou get irysDeal?
SMOK NNOOOOO DON'T LEAVE MEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>holo vs holo
>>33711426I'm more curious how she got permission for hime's likeness. you'd think Activ8 still holds them, which means potential trouble if she's doing it without permission. curious how that all played out.
>>33712464Dead subs
>>33712521You can't betray your fans if you didn't have any
>>33712521...maybe the bullying rrats are true then.
>>33712517It's blatantly obvious that EN3 is never happening at this point. Nobody from Cover has even hinted at it being a possibility. Updating the audition pagae without announcing a new gen is a massive red flag too.
>>33712443Be that as it may, there was flow-back as well and the FEELING of unity was what was important too.
>>33712464oh, the hunt begin
>>33712235If meido bans /#/ please make /news/
>>33712464Kobo before getting low numbers which is just debuff shit by the way, she literally revived the whole ID marketWhat did your Salome do?? Shill a PC ??
What if we just outschizo the schizos? Or has the issue always been from the regulars larping too hard?
>>33712603>Nobody from Cover has even hinted at it being a possibilitySo like HoloX and ID3 then
>>33712542Tamaki is officially a indie. A lot of groups say they're indie group kinda like vshojo to slip away from the permissions hell
>>33712219Remind me already by who sharky was carried during her live?
>>33712538JPnigs started it like they always do. This thread has turned into a /jp/ outpost in the past week and it has suffered greatly because of that.
>>33712567Fuck off, there are multiple Morurufag on this board, you even need two hands to count us.
>>33712443I would argue that her Asacoco series and Meme reviews were what introduced a lot of the EN audiences to JP Holos.And well, these programs were mostly before HoloEN ever became a thing.The "bridge" in this instance is introducing EOPs to more cute girls from the Box.
>>33712637People are too retarded to detect sarcasm anon. Also some posters here can't even fucking read or respond to the right posts sometimes.
>>33712637It's definitely a chunk of the regulars going on overdrive. Even if Niji does well, JP vs EN has been a staple of /#/ since it existed, especially Gura vs Peko.
>>33712604>FEELING of unityYeah that's true.
>>33712659As you say sister, is your favorite liver also Pekora?
>>33712654Cardboard Kronii lifted her over the shitpost line so, Kronii I guess
>>33711533Why are you ENfags so averse to criticism?EN Holos aren't some mythical creatures you know, they're western women, and that comes with a culture.
>>33712643HoloX and ID3 were always a sure thing. None of their gens underperformed like Council.
>>33712615/news/ just dies with all the bait there is on the catalog. A /vtr/ - Random would be better.
>>33712659>"jpnigs"sure, whose your favorite liver btw
>>33712278>Coco brought both branches together with her dumb reddit shitHow? She couldn't even collab with EN until her last few weeks and the Reddit review was just a 1on1 collab with another JP where she translates terrible tierlists.
>>33711597And thank god for that, I wouldn't want to be a cog in the machine, I like my individuality thank you very much.Still a HoloJP chad though, seethe about it.
>>33712724Gen 5 was a failure along with ID1 and ID2
>>33712724Focus on your Luxiem sister, they are crying for some help
>>33712615actually, what's the criteria for a meido to be able to ban a general completely? why is /vtwbg/ okay but not /meat/ or /ringo/?>>33712637the issue is people responding to obvious bait, so the shitposters keep coming back for easy (You)s
>>33712724rent free
>>33712726no just move everthing to >>>/trash/
>>33712182wait for the remodel, she will become a 10k chuuba.
Fully caught up on this shitshow of a thread. Did we ever get an explanation for why Mysta's POV with no Shoto couldn't beat Ame? I remember Shoto's audience boosting Vox to 30k. Do they not like Mysta as much?
>>33712770ID1 is one of the strongest gens in all of hololive though. It has fucking Moona and Risu in it.
>>33712680Maybe. But I know for the fact she refuses to cater to the EN audience even if she had the bilingual thing going on because her English was terrible and she really didin't want to alienate her JP fanbase as much as she can because all she wanted was to be accepted as Japanese but I don't need to get into that shit anymore.
>>33712659Not our fault that holoJP always gets better numbers
>>33712825Mysta is trying to shake off the fujos with the thumbnail
>>33712805off yourself, globalfag. People talk about streams in this general.
>>33712235For what purpose?People are just discussing HoloEN's reclining numbers, no one's even botting anyone or doxxing people.Idk what you people are so butthurt about.
>>33712723???There's plenty to criticize about EN, and if you ask me what issues any of the talents have I'd be happy to discuss.The problem is 9.5 times out of 10, outside the few hours when Euros are asleep and only East coasters are home from work (and SEA hasn't woken up yet, so like, 6-7pm EST), it always gets hijacked and devolves into mindlessly shitting on EN instead of some reasonable talk. Luv me the shark, but hoo boy there are a bunch of things I could talk about that she needs to work on.
I will resume the posting of my irrelevant gaijin chart on Sunday or earlier. Should Watson Amelia's announcement stream be included to the tally?
>>33712825Wait I missed this, there was a Mysta x Shoto Collab with solo POV Mysta tonight? Surely that at least got 10k
Did Anycolor made the right choice going IPO? Is it for the sake of the industry as a whole or for themselves?>ENs being huge numberfags>Taking any sponsorships left and right>Playing an ad during a stream>Accelerating with no room for growth to other vtubers>Building VTA which doesn't really enhance the Vtubing experienceIt's seems like Hololive is carrying the industry and they're just milking it from behind
>>33712834Iofi exists and ID2 is a failure compared to them
>>33712360he got banned for breaking Rule #1 with a NotNoel reference
>>33712875yes
>>33712637i have a feeling the shitposter is a 35piss they have been getting off the hook for a while now
>>33712531Did Cover release a statement for Matsuri's sperg out over Haachama?
>>33712858>>>/trash/
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>52,693: Fubuki (Hololive)>43,222: Pekora (Hololive)>32,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>27,762: Subaru (Hololive)>23,194: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>21,741: Korone (Hololive)>20,649: Haachama (Hololive)>20,599: Tachibana (VSPO)>18,236: Koyori (Hololive)>16,715: Lui (Hololive)>15,807: Salome (Nijisanji)>15,380: Koyori (Hololive)>14,503: Okayu (Hololive)>14,488: Ame (Hololive)>13,032: Flare (Hololive)>12,975: GatchmanV (Indie)>12,340: Mysta (Nijisanji)>12,316: Lui (Hololive)>12,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>11,230: Shiina (Nijisanji)>11,035: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>10,348: Runa (VSPO)>10,032: Luna (Hololive)>10,020: Tamaki (NoriPro)Fate still packing a punch
>rurudo got a new outfitFuck I missed it.
>>33712615Just make "/#/ - General" at that point.
>>33712875why would it not
>>33712770But gen5 is doing better than holox though
i think JP needs another rushia tier yab to make their fans behave wataamage.jpeg
>>33712931>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day218) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order>PER COMPANY19x: Hololive2x Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora3x: Miko2x: Ayame, Marine1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY170x: Hololive84x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER35x: Pekora17x: Miko16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>33712733THE FANS of both branches, anon. Asacoco and Reddit shitposts were great for engaging the EN fans and letting them learn more about JP, and for some of the memes that flowed from EN->JP, for JP fans to get an understanding of what the EN fandom was like. Yea, those tierlists were HORRIBLE, and that's why it worked, as cringe is universal.
>>33712863remember the nijifag who hates this thread and wants it removed due to making that "fake discord screenshot"
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/33707697/#33712182>self-delete 3 minutes later>spam hurr durr meidoWhat is this retardation?
>>33712931>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY168x: Hololive85x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte4x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER34x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>33712922>Did Cover release a statement for Matsuri's sperg out over Haachama?Not really for two reasons1) Matsuri sperged at her personal account2) There was pretty much a consensus in the fanbase that Matsuri was out of line, even if she was not wrong
>>33712603They don't "hint" new gens they just drop the announcent out of nowhere on twitter or do some teaser bullshit 24 hours before the reveal like that whole Council cube nonsense.
>>33712353she didn't want to be saved leaving was her own decision and all went downhill until she put her shit together at least I hope she can find happiness as an Indie
>>33712931wife lewds lets goooooooooooo
>>33712947I'm just waiting for some of the girls to quit because of throat hort. It's far too common in JP right now and something is going to snap eventually.
>>33712940I like the white sundress more
>>33712931>14,488: Ame (Hololive)>13,032: Flare (Hololive)>12,975: GatchmanV (Indie)>12,340: Mysta (Nijisanji)Recline branch huh ...
>>33712883It did. It didn't beat ame's sussy shitpost though.
>>33712949>19x: Hololive>2x NijisanjiRiku, do something
>>33712945gen 5 is doing better because of holox
>>33712536Deal. Irys is dead weight at this point.
>>33712949Hololive is too powerfulAnother HoloMonth is the bag.Another HoloYear is coming soon.
>>33712846She didn't need to "cater" to them, but her regular shows did a lot to promote the other Holos to the EN audience, which is why she was labelled as the "bridge".
>>3371218719-22 in general but for chuubas it's probably more like 20-24 JST
>>33712536no
>>33712947>roberu's discord shows up and IRyS is actually trying to fuck him.>peko is also his actual sister tooAnon. You have to think big. Get the side branches too
>>33712353Her issues, mutlipronged.Her environment, too kuso for anyone to do anything about.
>>33712536Is Salami bundled together with Debi?
>>33712931FOX LEWDS FUCK YEAH
>>33713083bigger>Pekora is actually Gura and Kobo too
>>33712949>>33712978Which one fucking is it why can't you faggots decide already?
>>33712908>Banned for a post shitting on JP>His other post was shitting on IRySSo like I thought it's the usual shitposters flaming both sidesWhy do people even respond to obvious bait?
>>33712931THE TIME HAS COME FRIENDO
>>33713025I just found it, did Lux really fall off so much from a being able to leech 30k zatsus from Shoto? Now they have him and IM and it's still not enough to get 15? School ending effect should not have been a 50% debuff
>>33712825>>33712930
>>33713155kys crossposter
I decided to give Salome a chance and I fell in love with her. She's so perfect, she deserves all the views she has.
>>33712922No, Matsuri apologized quickly. Most anons didn't even know until her apology
>>33713134To be fair that would be fucking hilarious.
>>33713058Thank to clippers and translators reallys especially the chinese ones like Hololive Moments even with the stigma against them today. Coco used English as a punchline to her jokes, not to give EN fans a heads up about what she's talking about. Asacoco didn't even get subs till very late into 1.0 and it was always one day late.
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>>33713147Luca still got 30k from THE FIRST HANDCAM STREAM so it's not like they have fallen off that hard. Their music views are also very healthy, comparable to top JP Holo, and are the top for the whole Niji.
>>33713155>Nina debuffKek, I'll take that
>>33712983>>33713178I do remember a rather PR sounding statement but that was from her own Twitter. I guess Matsuri consulted with management then wiped her own ass.
>>33712931at first I saw Salome peak and thought she was inclining but then I realized it was a Z...
>>33713083>>33713134>Migo raped Moona when ID1 was in JP, which is why there's no PekoMoon celebration stream>Aruran still has his dick, and Moom has sent pictures of his to Gura, she just lied to her audience and said it was her brother >Anya is actually Japanese, and was a failed scout to HoloXAnd the punchline:>Pekora monkey is actually Kanata's hand in a very tiny suit (Just a single hand)
>>33712977Again, he got ganked for the NotNoel reference.
>>33713249
>>33713144We have seen multiple times that shitposters play both sides. I remember that there was a series posts shitting on both Niji and Holo during August where the mouthbreather mispelled Koshien as koshian. Made it extremely easy to tell that the posts were from the same guy
>>33713266The stuff on her personal account was the self-hatred stuff mostly if I remember right. She went to a really dark place
>losing to normal gaming streams from NijiEN shittersDamn, HoloID really declined huh. And Choco is back to being a shitter already.
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>>33713257>Luca still got 30k from THE FIRST HANDCAM STREAMshit like that would have been 40-50k 5 months ago also>music vews
Guys, I think PekoMoona offcollab won't happen because Pekora met Moona Irl and realized that she is brown.
>>33713155>not a numberfag anymoredyrbi
>>33712643Actually for ID3 they specifically had auditions for a 3rd gen then closed it a few months before debutshttps://twitter.com/hololive_Id/status/1430424705673031687But EN is open auditions like JP now so nobody knows
>>33713176Counting the bots as well or just her current floor?
>>33712931>only one fbk lewd posteryou owe me fubufagst.nousagi
When will Pekora recline? I'm so fucking tired of her retarded fans here.
>>33713257Ah, they're just burning through their feat/event virginity stuff too hard, makes sense that a long-awaited one-on-one with Shoto would do better than a 4th Shoto appearance in 2 weeks
This could sell well /here/. Predict sales numbers.
>>337129787-13 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>33713396>>33712931
>>33713299Kek
Do EN branches even have candidates for the tally today? I know that Ina's drawing again, and Ame probably has another kind of shitpost prepared for 21st of September.Anything else?
>>337133631ST GEN LOVE
>>33712443at least Coco tardwrangled redditfags
>>33713300>DoxxfagOf fucking course ...
>>33713420I prefer Kaela's GSH
>>33713440>>33712931
>>33713395And do you have any proof of that?
>>33713420>Predict sales numbersit won't sell, schizos don't want the meds.
>>33713358SISTER NOT LIKE THIS AH AH AH AH AH AH AH
>>33713300Sigh, of course, I mean, not that it really needs any confirmation considering our shitposters have outright stated they play both sides, but this is just sad.
>>33712931
Finally some FBK sex timeI think I'm suffering from extreme porn addiction and in the two years I had no job I just fap to hentai what should I fucking do I think I'm in deep shit but I dont realize it. I still live with my parent but they can die anytime soon and im scared about my future as a 34 year old single male with no stable income.
>>33713455Kronii and Vesper is pretty much a lock for cripple gold unless Luca and Enna Switch Sports does gangbusters
>>33712983>1) Matsuri sperged at her personal accountNah it wasn't her personal account it was her official Matsuri 2nd account. And I think she said her manager gave her permission to post it.
>>33713500>>33712931
>>33713420>Reinewould get poor numbersuse moona or kaela instead since their the autism ambassadors.
>>33713510the meds are made out of your oshi's cum
>>33713537Just get off the fucking site you idiot.
>>33713505Her past graphs proved that much, do YOU have any proof about her viewers all being tourists and nothing else?
>>33713358Use this updated pic instead.
>>33713455Kronii Nowa maybe?
>>33713462
>>33713550>>33712931
>>33713521jezas, this is what kronii wants
>>33713455Depends heavily on>Is Gura streaming?>WHAT is IRyS planning to do?>How long does Bae intend to do the Batsu wheel for? Actually, is this first 'punishment MK8' someone from HoloEN has done???
>>33713537learn to code.
>>33713194https://youtu.be/2di61BNqMekI take umbrage to this because Asacoco was a DAILY program, and that she was relatively early in getting Asacoco to the EN audience.I say this because March to May 2020 was the time that the EOP surge was happening in full force.So she was relatively early to it.I got into Hololive in March that year, and one month later we had subbed Asacoco. It was quite quick by JP standards.And being one day late wasn't really a big deal since nothing else even had fucking subs, and LiveTL didn't really exist at the time.
>>33713521NijiEN management won't be satisfied until all their 52 of their low performing talents are below the Roberu line and all 7 of their heavy hitters only barely get 15k on one-off events
>>33713590FFOOOOBBBBSSSS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>33713412We're waiting for (You) to kill yourself, then we'll surely get bored about not having any competition at all.
>>33713581>No proofThought so.
>>33713602>>33712931
>>33713300just curious, what would it take to convince the meidos to enable thread ids? i feel like that would greatly reduce the amount of this kind of baitposting
>>33713537I feel sorry on your parents lol atleast get a fucking job
>>337135371. Get the fuck off 4chan, what the hell man, if you don't have a stable income at your age, go out and do some manual labor. Stop being a waste and at least contribute to society in SOME way2. Actually seek help if you can't stop, like legit help.
>>33713616its bae, nobody will care
>>33713640
>>33713420Oh shit I remember that, I have one with Lightning McQueen lmao. I'm getting old.
>>33713537You will never escape porn addiction (or any addiction for all that matters).But you can turn into a productive self sufficient member of society so get a job and get your own money
nice larp there
>>33713616Did she finish Resident Evil? She said she was either going to finish it or play Mega Man X.
>>33713651>>33712931>>33713412you dont even contribute in this thread kys
>>33713660Anon, a fucking Meido got caught samefagging in global, you think they'd EVER enable thread IDs?
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>>33713687
>>33713537high end prostitutesit cured me of my porn addiction
>>33713727Why is Kuro less stacked than Fubuki?
>>33713660Not like meidos even do much work here since jannies are usually 3-4 hours late to the party during certain timeframes.What's an incentive you could give them? Not like they're much invested in the health of this thread in particular, and the mods themselves have been caught samefagging, so why would they want that to stop?People should simply lurk more and learn to identify shitposts better, or just go back to their reddit hugbox or wherever it is they came from.
>>33713727>>33712931
>>33713726Ah shit, IRyS definitely not making it then.
>>33713732can we get flags at the very least? that'd solve at least 50% of our problems.
>>33713649You don't seem to have any either though.
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