/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Kronii do be pretty cute and lovable

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as expected from a kroNmei OP

>>33674988
Seriously. Why do you people not know how to bake a thread at all?

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We really lost lot of people huh

just die already, why make another thread

Have y'all been behaving?

Stop making threads
Fuck off

do you guys have a favorite kronii ship or you don't care?

Sorry, first time baking and it won't let me delete it. Just report the thread and get it nuked.

>>33675143
Old bakers(the ones who removed the schedule) are gone
Backup bakers(midknight & gabe) are gone/don't care
We are living off tourists who want to keep the threads going and newfag bakers who don't know how to copy and paste correctly

How we holding up clockbeats?

>>33675471
No one actually cares. No one clicks on anything in the OP.

>>33675418

>>33675531
I'm kronalite, but fine deadbeat. Hope you are doing well too.

>>33675531
beating my clock furiously, thanks for asking

kromei..

>>33675464

>>33675659
How the fuck do we stop this man?

>>33675531
I'm an irredeemable neat. Pretty good I guess

https://youtu.be/iX8WRcP4NX0

>>33675500
I miss ice cream poster

REVOLVER !!!! POST SOME THING
and follow me on twitter too

>>33675733

Soon, yay!

>>33675471
you will learn

>>33675500
I haven't baked a thread in months but uf everyone else is gone then maybe I could do it again

I think this'll be my last Kronii stream then I'll look for a new oshi. Anyone else have this feeling?

>Unpacking
>game about (your) lesbian discovery

>We were here
>the game that spawned KroMei as the dominant Council ship

I think Kronii is trying to tell us something guys.

>>33675913
i dont

>>33675860
Kronii always looks better in casual clothes, her regular outfit is awful

>>33675913
Nope.

>>33675941
we were here together wasn't even what made it a ship, that was flower and the shitty minecraft tour

>>33675913
You can still watch her without her being your oshi were you in it for the parasocial aspect?

>>33675962
man i really hope we get something moona style when Kronii gets her casual outfit.

>>33675962
Love the casual Hoodieronii

>>33676014
If I find a new oshi I won't be watching Kronii much if at all you know?

>>33675999
Flower was "Mumei finds Kronii's voice funny" but their collective degeneration during WWHT was what kicked everything off.

>>33675913
don't, you have two collab with males tomorrow

>>33676091
Nothing wrong with that really

>>33675941
yeah, "sorry, she wasn't serious when she said not to ship her, please don't go"

>>33676091
You do you anon.

Stop this shit dude. Have some dignity and let the general die.

>>33675941
>Followed by a collab with a male
Hmmmm, I wonder...

>>33676014
Yeah man he should have been in it for Kronii's
>Game selection
>Game play
>Zatsudan ability
>Karaokes
Oh wait. Seriously, without the parasocial aspect, Kronii is really boring.

>>33675460
Kronii x Vesper

>>33676208
>therapy

>>33676108
ballsack granmaronii...

>>33676250

>>33675500
This, these threads are just for people wanting to dramafag and shitpost now.

>>33675460
timeIrys is my fav becasue of the color scheme and SEX
but kromei is cute ngl

>>33676093
Mumei laughing at "see Mumeiter" and FLOWER led shippers to think Mumei finds Kronii funny because she really likes her.

>>33675460
Kronii X Tempus

so are there any other good sandwiches in canada or subway is the only thing they have.

I made out with a kronie while he slept... like really, really made out... I couldn't stop myself... I want to do it again...

>>33676388
did he consent?

>>33675857
Oh nyo...

>>33676388
You shouldn't do pchan like that Kami.

>>33676448
He was asleep so... maybe... I mean if he doesn't know...

>>33675143
I thought I did good last thread :(

>>33675460
I go back and forth between Kromei and Kroina.
Also, Kromei Love!!

>>33676569
did he enjoy it?

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>>33675460
KroBae is my hidden desire

>>33676735
touristchama...

>>33676682
I don't think he knew... he didn't react at all...

>>33675460
Kromei is my favourite but I don't mind others.

>>33676773
man i really want to see these 2 with a horror game

>>33676883
they'd pee so much...

>>33675460
TimeRyS love!

>actual kromeifags

I want Kronii to play Alien Isolation, I think the motion detector would have a panic attack

>>33676969
kromei will win the kronii bowl

>>33676909
Hot

>>33676969
Better get used to them, they're going to be here for a while. At least until the tourists start shitting the place up again tomorrow.

I want Kronii to play Pokemón Puzzle League.

>>33676996
*would give her

>>33677052
Did the TimeRyS spammers other than >>33676925 all die?

>>33677106
They might come back with the Pico Park collab since Kronii and IRyS will both be there.

>>33677055
You will get 3 months of scarlet and violet only

Kromei is better than homocollabs

>>33677229
You mean we'll get one stream of it and she'll "forget" that permissions for them expire.

>>33677229
You mean 2 streams in total?

>>33677288
too bad kronii doesn't agree with you

>>33677229
She will stream it once or twice and then the rest offstream.

>>33675941
but also she was insanely dense about the lesbian relationship in Unpacking, or purposefully ignoring it. I don't buy that there was some sort of 4D chess going on there.

>>33677229
Anon, PPL is Panel de Pon.

>>33677288
Objectively true. It's too bad we're getting more homos in the future for sure.

>>33677320
i think she will actually play this one since it is not a remake only nor is it arceus levels of openwolrd.

>>33676337
yeah, it was this + Kronii appearing in Mumei's chat during her first draw stream.

>>33677371
She works for a Japanese entertainment company anon, she's not going to exclaim "GAY PRIDE WORLD WIDE" on stream

>>33677371
>OOOOOOOOOOH
>she's playing the ukelele

She can be a good actor at times but she was intentionally acting dumb, it was clear.

>>33677371
she was more focused on criticizing their terrible fashion sense.

>>33676810
Anon, what you did was RAPE. You RAPED that Kronie.

>>33676925
love...

where is velessa chan?

>>33677467
She was pretty good that stream at pretending like she hadn't played it before. Mostly couldn't tell except for after she beat it when she paused silently for several seconds in obvious anticipation of the credits song.

>>33676810
I think that kronie was dead

Do you think she was uncomfortable with Kronii paizuri trending for the first month?

I love kromei

>>33677543
i'm so sorry...

>>33677543
Sorry we just finished up.

>>33676969
We've always been here, I think people who genuinely like the ship just realize it will always cause melties in /∞/, but it's chill to indulge when they're actually collabing.

collab when?

>>33677106
No.

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So TimeRyS is dead eh. Um.

>>33677451
other holomems can at least acknowledge that girls are dating, Mori and Kiara have read yuri on stream. There's nothing political about acknowledging whats in front of you.

>>33677543
w-what is mama doing to friend?

>>33677622
i want more gen 5 * kronii interactions.
but hard to find a game they can bond over.

>>33677688
it's over...

>>33677622
what game would they play together? hard mode: no blockgame, no scrapgame

>>33677688
Name is still there, she just doesn't spam

>>33677560
Why did she even pretend when she said onstream that she played it before?

>>33677750
Wtf, I hate TimeRyS now.

>>33677750
>>33677688
Never...

>>33677756
L4d with botan

>>33677756
splatoon
I KNOW YOU ARE PLAYING OFFLINE KRONII
I KNOW YOU GET SALTY AT IT
PLAY WITH THE JPS

>>33677688
No.

>>33677699
Japanese yuri manga is not the same as western brownie-point pandering.

So, um, Kromei is dead?

>>33677776
Because she instinctively lied and forgot that she ever said that

All kronii ships are cute.

>>33677901
Even x (You)?

>>33677890
who is supposed to be who on that pic?

>>33677750
No.

>>33677890
no.
kromei love

Gentlemen, I have discovered the solution to my schizocity. I have successfully gaslit myself into enjoying male collabs. I can thus continue enjoying Kronii's content henceforth for years to come.

>>33677901
What about kronie x kronie?

kronmei

>>33677941
FUCKING YOUNGRONIES!

>>33677979
>n

>>33677821
Didn't IRyS play L4D2 with Botan, Korone, and Lui awhile back?

>>33677901
what about Kronii x Kronies?

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>>33677979
>n

>>33677901
I ship Sodamom and Kronii so they can both be my moms.

>>33678008
KIRA L4D collab...

>>33677834
>Kronii decides to play Splatoon 3
>"haha guys its my first time playing"
>plays a quick round of Turf War
>results screen comes up and Lil Judd has the earpiece

calling it now

>>33678068
I don't know what you just said but I assume it means she played it before but said she hasn't.

>>33678068
>>"haha guys its my first time playing"
It is not…

>>33678058
KIRA collab...

>Kronii will never play splatoon on stream because she is THE toxic gamer.

>>33678003

>>33677451

https://youtu.be/P457iM1N6VQ
https://youtu.be/mCaUthAfTQo

They're lesbians, Harold.

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>>33677856
This is a retarded take, but also Bloom Into You is pretty explicit about actually talking about le cringe lgbt issues. I'm not sure why you're so upset by the game having a lesbian couple while also doing mental gymnastics to prove Kronii noticed it and didn't have an issue with it.

>>33678201
im pretty sure the game she was talking about yesterday was splatoon

>>33678212
cute dark elf

>>33678201
Maybe Ina and/or IRyS will ask Kronii for a collab and she most likely won't refuse.

>>33678120
Once you beat the story mode Lil Judd gets an earpiece he didn't have before, you can tell if someone hasn't beaten story mode if he's not wearing it during the results. The implication of why would have the ear piece is an actual spoiler and is probably a hint towards the DLC

>>33678256
Wasn't she retconned to not be a 'dark' elf?

>>33678212
Don't call my wife racial slurs...

>>33678212
Maybe one day we'll get the EN version of Noel and Flare

>>33678370
BaeRyS?

>>33678370
All you're getting is baerys

>>33678236
Yeah quite a few modern yuri stories have started to address LGBT issues. Quite a few yuri authors are lesbians themselves.

>>33678323
'black' elf

>>33678323
i belive she was alwasya half elf. but the west is just used to call dark elfs well...dark elfs.

and she doesnt like to be called dark just like she doesnt like to be called the man on noefure ship.

>>33678431
So they whitewashed her?

>>33678236
>Bloom Into You is pretty explicit about actually talking about le cringe lgbt issues
Eh, not really? It's very grounded and honest for a yuri manga, but it doesn't really discuss the obstacles that lesbians face as a community in any depth. It's mostly limited to the personal, not the political.
There are queer manga that are pretty political though, I'm thinking of, like, Shimanami Tasogare. But I can't think of any yuri manga in that vein off the top of my head.

>>33678405
>>33678413
>BaeRyS on the same level as NoeFlare
roru rmao

Cytrus is a cringe manga, Bloom Into You is fine.

>>33678508
im sure they will once they allow the rrat to roam free on japan.

>>33678550
citrus is shit, all my homies hate citrus

>>33678508
That's what I mean, you'll never get anything at NoeFure's level and you'll have to deal with BaeRyS

>no mumei pov
maybe gonna get delayed

>>33678455
The later is because Noel is the top in bed

>>33678582
Yeah, fuck it.

>>33677509
I... I didn't know... it was just heat of the moment... I... I didn't rape him... r-right? I-it was just a mistake!

gifted sc

>Rice
Nigga you have no awareness if you thought she was relaxed

>>33678471
flare first model was bad so cant blame her

>>33678216
My only rrat is that Kronii dances around acknowledging lesbians because it hits too close to home. If she wasn't a lesbian, I don't think she'd be so uncomfortable as to not even mention the word lesbian. She'd just mindlessly say lesbian and even make a joke about it because it isn't that serious. I think it's part of her opsec.

>>33678484
fair, its not like its Wandering Son or anything, but it goes far enough with Sayaka and Miyako that I don't think it can be brushed off as not being comparable to Unpacking.

TAKE
YOUR
kroNmei

TAKE YOUR TIME

>>33678759
it's a retarded thing to say but you could see her visibly relax as the stream went on yesterday

>>33678815
>n

>>33678777
She's said gay before on stream. But not lesbian.

>>33678759
>Rice
>Awareness

>>33678582
I liked Citrus... Mei is so pretty...

Mumei hates Kronii now

>>33678885
his tweet was hilarious man

What's this game about

>>33677371
She just came off a break for mangling her response, better in this case she bit her tongue than risk saying something inadvertently giving idiots on Reddit a reason to dogpile on her again over something stupid.

>Only Kronii POV
SHE'S HOSTING COLLABS

>>33678759
>Rice
>Aware
He's the densest nigger of all time

Is Mumei coked up on caffeine again

>#1
Oh no this is gonna be a series

>>33679203
Just like Phogs!

>>33679203
>Phogs [#1]

>>33679203
wouldn't bet on it, Mumei is not built for puzzle games

>>33679225
>>33679255
korean women...

Okay, time for my tea and hit the bead to watch the stream. Kroyasumi anons.

>Oh I can see the sun
SHINING IN THE SKY, EVERYDAY

>>33679203
yeah sure

>>33678931
I really don't get it. What compelled him to tweet that thing? Him of all people?

>>33679310
good night
*chu*

Can't believe I'm killing myself over a nothingburger like kronii callabing with males. Welp. Guess I wasn't going to breed anyways. I'm a genetic dead end after all. Welp time to go, I'll be swinging like a tranny in t minus 5 minutes. Adiós fellow chuds, might be the best option for you too. See you on the other side!

>>33679324
he has no personality and will only say or do things if he thinks kronii will like it. he's the ultimate yesman.

>>33679324
What compelled him? Being a yes man compelled him, he just wanted to jump on the bandwagon to gain good boy points from Kronii without realizing he's essentially everything she was decrying.

>>33679255
>>33679225
Implying this isnt cause Ina is lazy as fuck and hates streaming

>>33679486
Stream it so I can watch something better than this collab right now

>>33679575
>It Takes 2

>>33679486
Make sure the rope is on a secure structure so your massive weight doesnt break it

>Kronii tells Mumei Hexagon
>it's a pentagon
>Mumei still gets it right
They both are

>>33679710
truly made for eachother

kroni last braincell is overworking again

Guys. I'm laughing again. I'm smiling again. I love Kronii again.

Where is owl pov?

I thought Kronii is smart.

>>33679814
had to match the first collab by having no Mumei pov

>>33679814
They don't want to split the 5k viewers

>>33679800
ANON NO DONT FALL FOR HER AGAIN

>>33679710
>They are
Both Canada and USA failed education system result.

nice got my gold clock

>>33679839
stop beliving rrats

>>33679970
But a shark told me.

>>33679839
Only when it comes to random trivia she googles at 4am.

>I probably scissored you
really laying it on thick there Kronii

Kronii is cute and autistic today too

>5k viewers on a shipbait collab losing to Fauna's 7k building an autism farm for the 5th time again in the block game
Her decision is already impacting her

>>33680202
It is a done deal anon. Give up.

>>33680202
the magic is gone. shipbaiting is no longer effective

>>33680202
I would have skipped this one anyways regardless of her decision

>>33680202
who will be the last hooman?

>>33679936
Same, even though I canceled my membership, it expired today so I still got it.

>>33680202
I just hate Kromei. Watching Fauna and IRyS instead.

she's thinking about her pussy...

>>33680202
Or people just hate Kronmei collabs for whatever reason.

>>33680202
>competing with MC buff game and Gura/Reine

>Certain pussi... Pieces.
Kronii... Your subconscious...

>>33680202
Prefer to watch IRyS struggle to finish RE1 than watch this stream, them playing the game before this bored the hell out of me.

>>33680007
So this stream just proves she used google during Gura's game.

>>33680202

>>33680485
did you ever doubt it?

>>33680485
or it proves that mumei is shit at explaining what she is seeing.
IT'S LIKE, IMAGINE A STICK FIGURE. AND THEN IT HAS NO HEAD. AND ALSO IT HAS NO ARMS.

>>33680583
How would you have described the shape?

>>33680629
An upside down Y

>>33680629
>So it's like an upside-down Y

>Bird brains
Crow and owl.

>>33680485
It could be that the questions Gura asked just so happened to be the exact things Kronii knew already.

>>33680583
she only said that after Kronii didn't get her other hints (because she wasn't actually looking at the symbols or paying attention)

KRONII WANTS OUT OF KROMEII

>"of this relationship"
Why does Kronii bait this ship so hard now when Mumei doesn't at all

>>33680281
huh, this anon is right...

>>33680202
these numbers surely will validate your narrative

Kroni was never even my oshi, but I want to kill myself. I don't fully understand what's going on.

I've been at a vacation, work conference touching grass all week. Suddenly, I see the incel boogyman witch hunters in a wild ferver on Twitter and clips of Kronii upset.

I dug into the drama... I... should've just stopped. Now I'm here again. I hate it here. I DO think that some people are too obsessive and controlling, but I also understand and empathize why those people feel that way. No one chooses to be an incel. This shitty fucking world often puts people in circumstances where they don't have the resources or skills to change for the better. I say that as a person who deeply internalized inceldom as a teen. I feel like the "progressive" discourse around this whole thing is shaking the hive, backing the already on edge incels into being more aggressive... I get it... The controlling behavior is gross and wrong... But there's got to be a better way. I believe you've all got good in you. I really do... I have too. If I stop believing that, I will spiral into hating myself, as well because I relate to those feelings so strongly.

I don't even care about male collabs... Why is everyone being so fucking weird? Their WERE weird ass shipping comments. I SAW them too. I believe it's perfectly valid to feel uncomfortable about that, because I know what it feels like to be in the incel mindset. It's not alright to harass anyone about it, but it's also not alright or smart for those people to antagonize incels. For fucks sake...

I am experiencing major cognitive dissonance right now... I want the incel, gachikoi types to have a place to go so they don't feel forgotten or abandoned. I don't think there's anything wrong with the parasocial stuff that people demonize, because those people are privileged to not understand the kind of loneliness that makes leaning into the obsessive parasocial stuff appealing, and they certainly aren't willing to do anything to help make that lonliness go away in more healthy ways. They'd gladly watch incel types (including the harmless ones) immolate themselves, while claiming to care about the well being of people.

I feel like I just have to kill myself if I feel this empathy for incels. Like, I guess I'm irredeemable after all. I was working my way up to talking to my therapist about this, and maybe unlocking the secrets to moving past it and accepting myself, but I am deeply afraid that she will become disgusted by me, turn me away. I feel so alone. It feels like everyone would just want me dead if they knew. I am just an invalid life, no matter what, because I can't make my empathy for the incel mindset go away, no matter how much I disavow it rationally.

>>33680912
>Mumei doesn't at all

>>33680912
You tried this yesterday and got proven wrong. Shhh

God I hope these girls finally realize how dumb it is to limit the number of POV streams for collabs unless its like Mario Party/AWO games.

>>33680912
Kronii knows how to play the yuri bait game, Mumei has always been flirting for real, and shes' just not into Kronii anymore...

>>33680281
Well it's hard when Kronii herself ruined it with her statements with shipping.

>already cheeting

>>33681017
Kronii ruined EN

>>33681017
Kronii killed every ship forever? about fucking time

>MUMEI CAN'T DESCRIBE A SAFE LOCK

Kronii fake laughter...

>>33680202
>worst ship in shitty game competing with block game
Oh yes, startling.
Maybe you can make a thread about how Kronii is declining now

>>33680990
Mumei is just doing this as a favor to Kronii to help her walk back her shipping fuckup. It's too much to ask her to have her own POV.

>>33681445
kronies seething about ships... home...

that's all fake...fake...

She fucking died....

Kronii is an abusive girlfriend...

>that laugh
im still mad but STILL...

>>33680950
I understand. I also think that if you're too overbearing and controlling and whatnot, that's no good. I myself would prefer it if Kronii doesn't collab with tempus but I've been quiet because I'm a coward like that. But I'm not allowed a hobby because I'm mentally ill? Feels like I don't have a place in this world.

Are you a day 1 Kromies?

>>33681853
That laugh will never be for you.

>>33681928
Yes.

>>33681959
Speak for yourself. I've made her laugh that hard before.

>>33681959
I will make her laugh one day im sure of it.
i will go trough any possible joke to listen to her laughing at something i said

>>33681928
Isn't that character gay? Like me...

Kronii... stop with the fake laugh...

>>33682119
Yellow...

IT’S NOT HER GENUINE BELLY LAUGH
BAE WOULD SAY THE SAME

>>33681928
>posting shitty rice edits

>>33681959
She's literally laughed like that at a superchat I've sent her. Sorry chum. Thats all I really want too. I know she wont be my girlfriend or know who I am but thats all I want, to make her happy

>>33681959
anons here made her laugh before you know, i did too and it was clipped.

>>33682186
Anon it's the Clock King... From Harley Quinn..

>>33682128
man she shouldve never joked about her fake laugh in DBD. Just because she joked about never truly laughing, you guys latch on to it and try to use it as evidence she's not enjoying herself.

>Kronii is pushing kromei again
>She knows her kronies will blame the yuribaiting on Mumei
>She knows strengthening kromei will only make it harder for Mumei to kiss the rrat
>But she tells herself its worth it

>>33682198
one pieceronii...

>It's another "jerk my cock with a boring collab in the background" episode

>>33682329
I can't remember the last time I haven't had Kronii as just background noise.

kromei is over.

>>33681481
if she were really walking it back she'd lay low on the male collabs for a while. Noir stream tomorrow btw

>>33682500
Mumei is too confident and clever now... Kronii can't take advantage of her anymore...

>>33682500
Well the vast majority of kromei is powered by fanart and people who don't watch streams. So a kromei stream not being good isn't the end of the world for kromei.

>Mumei thinks Free Guy was good
Owl...

>>33682745
And Kromeifags will still claim they're the best streams on either of their channels

>>33682759
She said it was entertaining, not good.

>>33680950
I'm so sorry that's happening to you anon. I'd buy you a beer if I could

>>33681927
I think you DO have a place in this world, anon. I don't know exactly why you feel uncomfortable with Tempus, but I am confident that the reason is a lot more complex and nuanced than the incel witch hunters would have everyone believe.

It feels like no one will acknowledge the possibility of that nuance. I DO acknowledge that nuance, and I feel your pain. It seems like the Hololive fandom will be hostile to us for awhile. I hope we can get past this and maybe find something new, or perhaps learn to be comfortable with the changes. Either way, you're not the monster that the incel witchhunters say you are. You're just a human like they are. All of us with partially animal brains that make us feel ways we can't always control so easily.

Why do you think you feel uncomfortable with Tempus?

For me it's because I learned to feel like my fellow men were just looking to fight me, or betray me just to "win" the woman. I don't like that feeling. I've fought so hard against it, but it's in there so deep and I don't completely understand why. I just want it to go away so I can feel human connection. I don't want to hurt anyone, or control anyone. I just want to feel connected to someone.

why do i get the feeling that kronii watches red letter media? from all this movie trivia and memes?

We're not invited to the watchalongs...

Mumei locking up Kronii and making plans for future collabs already to spend more time with her.... my TimeRyS collab... my KroFau collab...

I feel like Kronii isn't playing games as fun as she used to after her statement
The only thing I want is her playing games and laughing happyily
I hope this fuck will be over soon

Ok now stream is entertaining with Kronii and Mumei just talking random topics to each other instead of solving this puzzle shit.

>>33682996
They never said they'd stream watching those movies.

>>33682937
Augh fuck id buy you a beer too, anon.

I take a nap, wake a bit late to the collab and see this sad fuck in chat. How does he get even more pathetic?

>>33683025
She's been laughing her butt off

>>33683163
Stop paying attention to this lost cause

>>33683074
Huh? That's always the worst part of Kromei streams, when Mumei gets bored of whatever they're supposed to be doing and does everything in her power to not focus on it anymore.

>>33683163
He's making a statement

>>33683166
inb4
>"B-but not as hard as when she was with the homos!"

>>33683163
Just block his ass, makes enjoying streams so much better.

>>33680950
As someone whose extremely empathetic to a fault... I also have these feelings. I hate seeing my friends get shit on for being incels because they dont like collabs. My suggestion would be for them to take a break from kronii and possibly watch an indie that can give them a better bfe. Theres a cure to being an incel, and shitting on them online or being holier than thou or telling them to touch grass or get maidens isnt the solution.

>>33682818
How so creepy

>>33682887
Thank you anon. For all the bad things people say about vt (and all the bad experiences I've had on 4chan in the past), people here seem to be more likely to not immediately, outright invalidate my existence. I appreciate your kindness.

>>33682500
you had this post written before you even opened the stream nigger

>>33683293
Bullshit, shaming works better than you would believe and I will continue to do so

>>33682745
This stream has been going just fine though?

>>33683510
TOUCH MAIDEN GRASS INCEL

>>33683623
the grass of a maiden...

>>33683510
np bro, i hope things start to look up eventually

>>33683293
I just wanted to watch fucking cute girls doing cute things. If I'm watching a show like YuruYuri and all of a sudden Tempus bursts in and every other episode will be about them collabing with the girls, it changes the fucking show. JUST SKIP THOSE EPISODES HURR. No fuck you. I can't believe I'm being called an incel just for not wanting change in something I enjoyed.

>>33683613
nono, its objectively awful because reasons!
(the real reason is i dont like kromei and no stream will change my mind, I'm a close minded individual)

>>33683623
You first

>>33683623
You go, girl! you showed them! now tweet about your victory!

>>33683689
Thing is, theres a real person and real motives behind the cute girl doing cute things. This girl wants to hang out with her new coworkers and make them feel welcome. Its not a pre-scripted anime with a plot written out. If you want YuruYuri then watch YuruYuri, you're not gonna get that experience from watching ANY Vtuber, and especially not one in a corporation.

>>33680950
>If I stop believing that, I will spiral into hating myself, as well because I relate to those feelings so strongly
Sounds like you need to unironically improve yourself. This overly empathetic side of you is obviously dragging you down to their level. You WILL get caught in the shaming if you're convincing yourself you're one of them. You either prepare to be treated the same in that case or leave them to their own devices

>>33683243
Does owl have unironic ADD?

>>33683293

>Theres a cure to being an incel, and shitting on them online or being holier than thou or telling them to touch grass or get maidens isnt the solution.

This is how I feel about it too. Just like regular old cult de-radicalization, you're only going to radicalize them more if you don't have an alternate empowering path to salvation.

>>33683731
Oooh, this looks cute, creepy, bouncy and itchy all at once. I'd absolutely touch this grass/bush

>>33684037
In her solo chatting streams she either quickly switches topics or rants for 15 minutes about something

>>33684037
yes

>>33683971
>This girl wants to hang out with her new coworkers and make them feel welcome
Like I said the fucking dynamic has changed. Before she wanted to hang out with her fans and make them feel welcome. But now even Day 1 members take a backseat to some dudes who joined like a month ago.

>>33680950
>It feels like everyone would just want me dead if they knew
Why? You're simply saying that you feel bad for those who take out their suffering on others. Unless you condone and encourage this party saying mean things, but also don't want anyone to be harsh back to them or shut them down, nobody will care.
Even if that was your opinion, plenty of people think you should have infinite patience and should coddle those who hurt others. You'd be fine to think that.

>>33684064
Turn to jesus or some shit and tell them to leave vtubing behind then. Even if the don't do the former, they should absolutely do the latter

>>33684037
ADHD

>>33684144
Feel like you're just getting gaslit about the long-term frequency of events like this, especially since Tempus is the new and shiny toy right now.

>>33684144
>But now even Day 1 members take a backseat to some dudes who joined like a month ago
In her first week of streams she had a large collab. One in which (you) weren't given personal attention. It was a collab not on her stream and she was giving her genmates all of her undivided attention. That's not the problem though is it? the problem is that the person behind the avatar that shes collabing with makes you feel inferior.
The dynamic has changed, she will always collab with new people that joined and she always has. She collabed with Zeta and Kaela when they first joined HoloID and "day one members took a backseat" to them as well.

>>33683989

See, but I disagree that there's any "dragging down to their level" going on. I'm not feeling empathy for the people who are actually exhibiting controlling behavior here. I'm feeling empathy for people who are just feeling uncomfortable with tempus collabs. They didn't intentionally feel those feelings, I gurantee you.

Have you ever had the incel mindset? Do you know what it's like?

>>33684188
Watching vtubers to me was never about getting a gfe. If youre seriously watching vtubers to watch cute girls do cute things you should probably be watching anime instead of this, you're gonna get yourself hurt or become more depressed.

>>33684188
>Go outside and touch some grass
Like that will change anything. you're just kicking them out because they are an inconvenience to you.

>>33684527
I'm 100% in agreement with you

>>33684536
Yes

>>33684536
I mean the cure to depression is very gradual and takes a lot of hard work. Genuinely getting some help and not trying to cope by watching someone you hate and arguing with people on line isnt gonna help any of your issues you have with yourself. Because at the end of it, thats all this boils down to. People have an issue with themselves and its fully something they have to deal with on their own. Your escape for a while was vtubers but after watching for a year or two you're slowly realizing you're not getting better, and it was just a band-aid over a wound thats slowly getting bigger.

>>33684380
>>33684422
>Won't initiate collabs, won't stream POV, won't interact with them on Twitter. She said these words on the members unarchived.
>Interacts with them on Twitter, goes on a 2 week break, comes back and we have 2 male collabs right off the bat. And Holo ID is still under Hololive, so its not like the vibe shifts but you're probably just being a disingenuous faggot.

So I guess no one's watching the collab now

>>33684181
I don't feel as much empathy for the incels who actually act out in violent or aggressive ways (though I am depressed that they got to that point).

I'm talking more about the vast majority of incels who just complain online a lot because they have no other outlet. I don't think those people deserve to be put in the same category as people who ACTUALLY intentionally hurt others.

>>33684825
The ones watching aren't posting right now.

>>33684598
the thing with anime is its not seeded in reality like vtubing is. As much as you want vtubers to be an artificial anime girl play games on her own and be exactly what you expect every time, that will never be the case. With Vtubing you have the human element of having someones own vision of where they wanna guide their own content and hang out with who they wanna

>>33684825
I'm watching!

>>33684825
The magic is gone, id rather spend my time with kronies here

>>33684906
It is the case with JP, just these fucking EN whores are being swayed by Mori and Omegatroon to constantly break kayfabe. Wrestling manages to do this shit, are you one of those assholes who goes around to fans of wrestling and constantly tells them it's not real?

>>33684470
These sad fucks should try to understand why exactly they feel so disturbed by a simple collab and fix that because if it isn't with vtubers, it would be with other similar situations. It's all mental, which is something that, despite what losers/blackpillers would have you believe, is fixable. No, I don't have incel mindset because I realized early on how weak that mindset is; having my mental state be dependent on how much I value women/basing my value on how desirable i am to women

>>33684825
I don't watch kromei shit.

>>33685059
You faggots should try and understand why there seem to be "sad fucks" here. This is a niche hobby, you just came here to feel superior morally and be an ironic weeb. Fuck off.

>>33685066
based, retard owl needs to stop leeching off her betters

>>33685175
Kronii is the leech now.

>>33685140
Vtubing and streaming in general is just another form of entertainment, not some fantasy fulfillment

>>33685059
The fuck? you're from reddit, aren't you?

Why are you like this

>>33685226
Fantasy fulfillment IS a form of entertainment retard, it's one of the oldest ones. What you think the Marvel movies do so well because they're based on real life?

>>33685258
I'm from /vp/ if anything

>>33685175
You don't want me to numberfag, clock kun

>>33685330
Then I respectfully ask you to go back there.

>>33685330
You're basically a fucking brony except with vaporeon. Gtfo.

Why does she always do that weird fake coughing thing

>>33685370
I'm not a clock tho.

>>33685463
I bet she covers her fart noises with her cough.

>>33685424
>>33685461
I don't need your permission to post here. But stay seething, it only makes me happier while I watch the collab

>>33685059
This is exactly what I mean. You don't understand. You don't have the same experience and you have no empathy. You're not helping, you're just antagonizing.

But that's okay. You have your reasons to feel disdain towards people. You seem to be afraid of being weak. I will be disregarding you though, because we don't have enough common ground to have a meaningful discussion.

>>33684810
>members which she was taking in a lot of information real-time and tried to find a middle ground to calm people down
>after the clip incident and the forced early break, did some reflection and re-evaluated her stance and realized that position probably wouldn't be tenable in the long term

The end result may not be to everyone's liking, but she at least made the attempt to try and understand why part of her fanbase might take issue with it compared to Ame who pulled the "IMPROVE YOURSELF" card right out of the gate which by I think burned a lot more people outright.

>Correctly calls it in iron maiden
>Incorrectly corrects herself to calling it an iron maid
Why does she do this

>>33685589
Oh god, he's denying me. that's so hot

>brain hort

>>33684994
Spending time with vtuber fans on 4chan of all places is a objectively bad choice, but you do you man

>>33682937
It's a bit complicated. I'm trying to fully understand it myself. I think it's a variety of reasons. I'm a pathetic human being that can't even make friends. I sometimes read manga of sad friendless protagonists. I'm drawn to them because they're miserable just like me. But they get better and they make friends and they become happy. And I feel jealous and abandoned by them. They were saved through their own effort but also with the help of the people around them. But I have no one and nothing. Then when I read stories with straight couples, I'd see these handsome, strong, confident, kind men getting the girls and I'd feel like shit. If the girls had a choice between the male lead and me, they'd always choose the male lead because they're the better man. So I started reading almost exclusively yuri because I felt a safe distance from the couple. I could just enjoy seeing the two girls being happy. And I watched CGDCT shows because they're cute and nice and I like them but also because I didn't really want to watch men. It's kind of hard to explain. I didn't want the possibility of a mirror that showed me how ugly I was. Combinded with the fact that Kronii was the first time I felt a human connection to in a very long time and I fell in love with her, I just wanted to keep this feeling. I was under no illusion that I could ever be with her. I know I'm a sad pathetic excuse of a human being. I just didn't really want to be reminded of that with the media I consume. And it's difficult to find a replacement when I watch Kronii because I felt a connection and I love her. So I was extremely happy with the compromise she tried to reach with us and was content to keep watching Kronii while ignoring the collabs with tempus because I felt like she cared for us. Now I don't know. Now I feel demonized. I know I'm not mentally healthy. But is it so wrong to have these feelings? If it is, please just make it lawful to execute people like me and kill me. I really don't know how I'm supposed to continue living this sad excuse of a life.

>>33685682
She didn't make up that stance of hers DURING the member's stream. That had been her stance already. We knew that since Stray and the obvious bait SC. It had been her stance for weeks. But then, after clarifying it further and seemingly solidifying it with her members, she immediately went on break just to completely backtrack and change her stance completely.

>>33685675
Works for me. I sleep well knowing a fake anime girl collab with fake anime males will never mentally destroy me like the rest of these sad fucks. Enjoy the collab, as well as tomorrow's

>>33685890
Your superiority complex is showing anon...

>>33685890
I mean I will, I don't really let vtubers revolve around my life some people here do, so I'll personally be having a good time.

>>33685851
>change her stance completely
>"collab with males sometimes on my channel" instead of "collab with males sometimes but not on my channel"

>>33686057
>>"collab with males sometimes on my channel"
it was leaked and everything and you still didn't watch it...

>>33685792

>Apply a basic time limit to any task
>Kronii immediately turns into a sweaty nervous sputtery mess

>>33686109
that's her new stance dumbass

>>33686109
>>33686132
wait, I'm dumb. lmao my bad

>>33686124
Imagine the JOI countdowns...

>>33686109
not him but she clearly stated it wouldn't be on her channel, wouldn't be her pov, and she wouldn't initiate them, only accept them if invited.

and now she's gone back completely on all points. she fucking lied.

>>33685792
All of what you said is how I feel. I talked to my therapist a bit about it (I was being kinda vague cause I'm nervous) but her reaction was that the feelings have no moral value. Those feelings exist in us because they were programmed into our nervous system by exposure to stimulae (some bad experience with our fellow men), like the neural bet it is. So, we got crap training data, and now to fix it we need good training data, but good training data is hard to find because we distrust people, or people distrust us.

So, your feelings are just exactly what your experiences would have created in any other person if they had them. So you're not weird, gross, or whatever for those feelings. Finding the new training data is sooo hard though... Like... You have to find friends or a good therapist, and even then, it takes time.

>>33686041
Glad to hear that. Stay sane anon(as sane as someone who comes here can be, i guess). Have a good day

When will Kronii collab with Reine again? Kronmei is always a snorefest

>>33685851
The bait SC you're thinking of was from Minecraft a week later, Tempus wasn't even brought up during Stray at all, and even then all she said at the time was that she wasn't going to follow anyone on Twitter she didn't really interact with and made no mention of actually collabing with them which is why DBD caught everyone off guard.

Now I think you're just trolling at this point.

>>33686222
Ay, likewise

>>33686293
>Lesbian
>Ouro "Its fine to ship girls because its not real" Kronii
anon...

>>33686293
They bring out the cute in each other. We also get moments where they both wanna argue with each other but they hold back because they really (platonically(?!)) like each other so the back and forth is hectic and cute

>>33686332
Nope, she said she'd be cool with it but would only do it if they or someone reached out to her. That crucial detail is impossible to forget. I'll even spoonfeed you the clip from everyone's favorite clipnigger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacsMqdk7lc

Mumei exploring Kronii's cave.

>I can't see the appeal
SHE LOVES CAVE DIVING

OGEY

RRRRRRAT

>THE RRATS HAVE FINALLY COME TO VISIT
The whole game is /here/

>>33686182
We don't sexualize Kronii here.

>>33685589
>I'm a tourist just here to shitpost
Lovely.

>>33686449
why does a collaboration always have to be about sex? schizos like are you are why we have a unicorn problem

>>33686553
>>33686629
>>33686684
>>33686718
>Watching Kromei

>>33686807
>supporting and watching my oshi even though the stream is mid
you wouldnt get it, anti

>>33686783
I mean I was mostly implying there would be friction between a lesbian and a homophobe, but also kronies have always judged Kronii's collabs for the sex potential.

>>33686783
Seems typical of HoloEN watchers to like the streams more for their headcanon than what is happening on stream

>>33686852
It's so easy to figure out the tourists here.

>>33686724
Oh thank goodness

>>33686539
>but would only do it if they or someone reached out to her
>"If any of them reaches out, I'm okay with it"

I'm missing the part where she says "only" here, anon.

Here's the actual response in non clip form so you know context wasn't removed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YpzYGPjgCY&t=12051s

AWO is fun to watch because there's constant non-stop action sequences split up by fun minigames. This is not that. Good grief co-op puzzle games are not a good watch.