/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining

>>33665557
hey man

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>89,156: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,076: Hololive Indonesia (Hololive)
>24,929: Lamy (Hololive)
>21,554: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,820: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>16,775: Gura (Hololive)
>16,415: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>16,105: Nose (VSPO)
>15,537: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,884: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,076: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,892: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,734: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,669: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,724: Ina (Hololive)
>11,536: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,479: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,214: Runa (VSPO)
>11,143: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,936: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>10,926: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,816: Sango (Nijisanji)
>10,068: Linglan (The Box)

>>33665594
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
2x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Ayame, Marine
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji Sora, Subaru, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
169x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
17x: Miko
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>33665594
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
167x: Hololive
85x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
34x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>33665594
>no delta
Tally anon hate

https://youtu.be/BdPT8IiPQ0k
ENTER GOLD

It's painful watching Fauna building a dead server.. But the ccv is decent so whatever

>>33665763
>haachama ch
no

>>33665763
17k max.

>>33665778
Bae is playing Minecraft later this week. So that's two!

the blue leech getting fucking massacred again, die faggot

>>33665808
>>33665857
TRUST THE PLAN ANONS, I BELIEVE
I'm just glad she's finally back in the box

>>33665778
watch it more like a solo playthrough

*sidenote this date is cute

Mumei recline?

>>33665922
It doesn't even fucking make sense that Ame is getting the views she is her camera fucking blows donkey dick and you can't see shit

>>33665763
dokilaby coming back together for christmas is october?

>>33665905
I hope the old haatons will be back again... They're the most based fanbase

>>33665922
>>33665936
People are probably watching Ame's stream to see Mumei's character.

>>33665936
Ame debuff + overlap+ Multi POV

>>33665936
Not only is her POV first person, it doesn't have any kind of model or PNG on it. Ame's POV has the third person camera

>>33665936
Her and Ame's POV are different, I feel like people are gonna end up swapping between them while keeping one muted, so you might see some funky stuff with their graphs.

>>33665905
I still want that Tetris stream with Suisei.

>>33665969
she started 5 mins before Mumei

>>33665729
Tally anon did gave her a special mention at 13k since there was no site that actually tracker her. Still Tally anon can go fuck itself.

>>33665936
what the fuck

>>33665729
Just his usual retardedness. Hardly surprising at this point.

>>33665981
Did they ever leave? Her diy stream wasn't that long ago, and that should've shown that they're absolutely still there
>>33665763
Her channel isn't as big of a debuff as it used to be so I think 15k is nice, not gold though... Man I still don't get how she got 30k or some shit like that on her collab with Luna some time ago

>>33665936
Ames stream started 5 minutes before Mumeis

>>33665936
multi-pov watchers went toward ame's pov since she started first
see >>33665922
waiting room was about the same

>>33665936
Ame started earlier plus this isn't her timeslot anyway

3 view homo nice investment Omega

>>33665936
mumei didnt do as well as they expected

Mumei and Ame both in front of Fauna. Saplings status? Incline doko? Not even 6k yet oh no no no. Won't make it past 7k.

>>33666266
I can't believe ame shilled mumei's pov in the middle of the stream and it's gonna past fauna

>>33666229
In a day where Shien got 7k with FGO, that gotta give one pause and something to think

um sapkeks what happened? you told me fauna was the number breadwinner of council?

fauna being absolutely crushed by the double overlap

https://youtu.be/BdPT8IiPQ0k
I highly doubt this will hit 10k given the time but it'll be in the cripple tally right?

>>33666266
>Even Nijisanji's best streamers have downward-trending view graphs
>even Cover's Stars branch's second-lowest streamer manages upward-trending view graphs
Why is this phenomenon consistent even across the widest margins

holoen status?

>>33666351
Not really. No one gives a shit about Shien. 7k is probably more than his 3D got. You could even give FGO to someone in Niji and they would get a decent number with it.

>3 view regis
Holy shit lmao

>>33666446
winning

>fauna cant even beat debuffson with a buff game
OOOOOF

just 3 streams and everyone is 5k, how fucking thin is the en box these days jesus

>>33666351
That speaks to Fate Grand Order more than anything else, just as Pekora getting multiple near 3D-Live level streams off of fuckign Fuyuki.
Unless it turns out there's a massive demand for "Olga Marie Murder(?)porn" streams or something, it seems like Fate is a god-draw for the Japanese. Which, makes sense.

>>33666478
Fast, fire up gungeon for part 12381!

>>33666465
Niji already did FGO streams, though ? Didn't do as well, tho

Lot of Fauna antis in this thread huh? I used to think there was just a single Faunaschizo

>>33666420
I don't want to drop too much scientific analysis on you at once but it's probably because the two Nijis have been streaming significantly longer.

>this is what happens when only 3 streams overlap each other, two of them are a collab with different POVs
Grim, wonder what's going to happen when actual jp tier overlaps start happening

Disappointing numbers from Fauna, Amei overlap is no excuse since she's playing minecraft

>>33666504
The holoEN box is just the Gura box at this point

>>33666504
The amongus collab is going to be a massacre

He will make 4 view
I belieb

>>33666400
She'll get her 10k.

Twitch drama at all high peak right now

i have NEVER seen this thread be so slow when fauna wasn't the one mogging everyone

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572367814190825475
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572367814190825475
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572367814190825475

If Reine gets cripple gold with Gura, the tally should be deleted

>>33666557
Notice how most anti fauna comments are one min apart from each other, it might be the Faunaschizo having a field day.

>>33666351
>Pekora can save a homo and make him incline to 7k CCV without collabing or interacting at all
>EN can't even save one from becoming 3view despite spamming collab with him
ENkek status?

>>33666530
Did they? Which Niji? Might just be because Holo is more autistic about permissions so they just not started doing them since years back with the permissions thing. Interest will drop off.

>>33666557
Looks mostly to be that guy to me.

>>33666560
I can give you that for this specific instance, but that tends to hold true for most of these streams. Nijis grow for about half an hour outside of exceptions, then plateau until decline, whereas Holos tend to grow for hours at a time.

>>33666601
Will she? Overlap with IRyS by the time the collab ends then later Gura/Reine collab. Might be hard today

>>33666601
Really? A show of strength is streaming for 6 hours until everything ends to catch every last bit of funnel you can, all of that and to only edge above 10k? That's just sad.

>>33666626
I FUCKING HATE THIS CHICKEN
MORE SPECIFICALLY HER DUMB ASS TIMEZONE
MOVE TO BRAZIL OR SOMETHING YOU STUPID BITCH

>>33666609
Share it with the class, come on now

>>33666562
EN3 gonna be brutal

>>33666626
>that time slot
Yeah, now I understand why IRyS isn't participating.

>>33666609
VTdrama sisters mogged... Should just stay in LSF circle to join the hottest drama.

>>33666615
People are enjoying the cute aquarium date so nobody is biting the baits

>>33666609
jesas 200k

>>33666573
There is no HoloEN. It's Gura and friends

>>33666562
This is why they don't grow the branch to 26 people in a little over a year. EN market just doesn't have that capacity without fucking some of the streamers over. of course if you don't care about your streamers and just want to farm cash off sheer volume, acceleration is fine (until it's not fine and kills your entire market like ID/KR).

>>33666755
But fucking IMAGINE someone streaming amongus at fucking 5 AM.
It would've been funny.

>>33666504
It's a tuesday afternoon right before prime time in burgerland

>>33666626
eurotime debuff

>>33666627
Reine is a debuff and the stream is a language learning stream for fucking Indonesian, which is also a debuff. In all likelihood, it's going to be that dumb ass graduation bait AMOGUS stream Ame did earlier. I kind of hope it is honestly, because you know the sisters will flip their shit about how it doesn't count because it was like 4 minutes.

>>33666758
I wish they fucking would rather than dropping that shit here all day

>>33666626
my hatred for this whore will only increase, why the fuck she has to ME ME ME every fucking trend. you poison number bitch

Is the twitch drama responsible for the current terrible numbers of EN? Fauna's minecraft is just too low

Homo$sh4rts are kill

>>33666896
More like she's overlapping with Mumei and Ame collab.

>>33666893
>>33666738
cry more

>>33666800
I was literally about to say, if holoEN had thr dame amount of streamers... I wouldn't say they'd go down to their numbers but their numbers wouldn't be looking all that pretty as well
En3 shouldn't be coming any time soon

>>33666896
I don't know SHIT about ANY of this, but I have to assume that this is a sizable number of people

Little disappointed with Mooms and Fauna numbers, but at least they're not in 3view territory

>>33666626
yep this will do bad in numbers even for the main organizer

>>33666896
>twitch drama
qrd?

>>33666982
Their normal averages are 60k and 30k respectively

>>33666943
Get fucked leech

>>33667023
Check the first posts in the last thread

>haachama's English rust stream will probably get more than all 3
MY FUCKING SIIIIIIIIIIIDES

>>33666954
can't wait to see her shit numbers in that timeslot,
ppl will evade her grating pov anyway.

>>33665606
September is another HoloMonth
Hololive is too strong

>>33666943
QUICK, SCHEDULE MORE COLLABS WITH THE GIRLS!

>>33667082
I hope so! If she sees the support she will do more english streams and I like Chammer's english!

>>33666943
RUMAO THAT'S WHAT THEY GET FROM LISTENING TO REDDIT

>>33666626
Jesas cover needs holoEU to stop this chicken from crying how she's lonely and shit. They also need more NA based holo too though, hopefully not canadian

>>33667112
don't worry he has one with Kobo again, he is gonna suck her dry

>>33666961
Quite frankly a lot of the EN girls seem fine to only stream 4 times a week. Most of them already feel overworked, make plenty of money, and have other stuff to do outside of pure streaming anyway. EN3 will alleviate some of the need for people to feel like they're obligated to stream. I think there's plenty of room for it, as long as they're smart and don't all crowd into the existing window when most people stream 6-10 PM EST. If they do that and end up with like 5 people streaming at once yes that will be brutal for the people on the bottom of the pile.

>>33666982
I think it does have more to do with the overlap but that is a damn big chunk of the NA livestream audience. Are any other big NA streamers getting lower numbers than usual on Twitch or YouTube?

>>33666982
why one of those girl sounds like kronii?

>>33667079
im still left confused did selen expose a bunch of twitchfags or something?

>>33667192
Mexicans?

>xqc 200k
>hasan 137k
Wait wtf happened while I was in work. Is twitch final yab happening?

>>33667023
No fucking clue, but checking in on the stream, the guy streaming is listening to a girl talk about some kind of rape accusation while putting his chat on stream and using MSPaint to draw a slot machine. And I think it's also reaction content?
So, whatever is happening, it's fucking weird.

>>33667082
English Rust stream?

Drama box is so huge right now vtuber got no chance to get good views in EN right now.

so did ame unironically raise her numbers with her announcement stunt? i feel like these numbers would have been switched if it didn't happen

>>33667158
What she needs is more confidence in her English, she already gets plenty of support, too much support in fact hence why she became insecure about it in the first place.
No one to tardwrangle her, only to pat her head and give her hugs and kisses.

>>33667265
Ironmouse is mexican right? she's not so bad

>>33667266
gambling drama led to everyone bringing every single piece of dirt and past drama they had with each other, it's a fucking mess
also twitch banned gambling now

>>33667212
only the just chatting section of twitch is over 800k rn, the dramas+slot bans polarized a fuckton of audience.

>>33666626
>During football time on Sunday
sorry chicken but I ain't watching this shit

>>33666626
It got deleted. What was it?

>>33667266
>>33667344
Fuck off

>>33667280
https://youtu.be/lZ6PnoI5xy4
Don't know what that anon is talking about, slot isn't very good for EOPs, highly doubt it'll even break 10k
While mumei and ame I think are sure to hit 10k...at one point, unless it's a 1 hour stream

>>33667328
>announcement stunt
??
I thought she just started earlier than Moom

>>33667328
ame started earlier and more people stayed with her

>>33667337
>Ironmouse
>mexican

>>33666573
It really is dumb. The rest of EN just loves "filtering" their audience down to barebones + tourists. Except the tourists are usually fans of different Holos who stop showing up since their own oshi filtered them. The result is a really weak box.

>>33667377
If you want to understand numbers, you need to understand externalities that effect them.
That's why /#/ is the widest topic of /vt/ by a large margin. Because the externalities of numbers are infinite.

>>33667212
There's no real twitch vtuber streaming just a bunch of shitters so it's hard to tell. Technically Veibai is on...her boyfriend's channel. Getting 20k. IDK what his normal number is.

>>33667418
>stayed with her
ok but we need an explanation on why

>>33667344
>twitch banned gambling now
Oh no how terrible for x his average viewership won't go to sub 60k now since he actually have to make real content.

>>33667460
lazyness

>>33666001
That's some pretty holesum cope

>>33667460
you get to see mumei's model

>>33667259
oops, it was two threads ago and some posts got deleted and I think nobody summarized it in one single post. There are multiple yabs at the same time, all of them pretty big and I don't know all the details because I don't really care. Only for this time I recommend you to check Reddit (LSF)

>>33666943
I don't think the homos realize that the constant collabs with HoloEN are counterproductive towards their growth.

>>33667210
The real issue is lack of schedule coordination which leads to no one streaming for hours on end and then 3 girls streaming at the same time.

>>33667444
>i want to discuss my offtopic faggots
Go back

>>33665491
>>33665523
>>33665594
Narrow eyes are hot. More vtubers should have them.

>>33667509
>why numbers lower across the board
>don't explain why or else I'll bitch tho

>>33667337
Shes from one of the american islands they speak mexican on not mexico. Thats why she knows english.

>>33666800
HoloEN have shrunk their market by underserving it.

>>33667422
knife-mexican

>>33666626
Shitter branches during EU primetime, the best conditions of stream for me to not watch at all.

well atleast fauna is beating mumei.......

>>33667574
The only thing Fauna should be beating is my dick, sexually, if you know what I mean

>>33667444
this thread can't even understand how nijijp events affect holojp and you expect them to understand this

>>33666943
They get shit views comparative to the amount of virtue signaling attention they get on reddit and twitter.

>>33667479
Laziness means they don't give a shit about the drama.

>>33667502
I don't see that changing. A few girls try to schedule around other people but the majority ignore it and just do whatever is best for their personal schedule.

MUMEI YOU LITERALLY HAD A FRAME UP A WHOLE DAY EARLIER HOW DID YOU FUCK THIS UP?

>>33667344
how will nazuna milk gacha stream now?

>>33667542
They're not, stop posting your twitch e-celeb shit

>>33666573

And most EN girls are sabotaging that box for being dumb only Fauna is helping her and maybe Kiara but her streaming time is bad.

>>33667460
You watch ame to see Mumei's model and Mumei to see Ame's model

>people won't watch mumei unless she's doing a karaoke or some bootleg haachama-like schizophrenic shit
Huh... Where did I see this beforehand...?

>>33667460
Ame's pov has the 3rd person cam so you see both of them

>>33667614
What other way would she be beating your dick?

>>33667634
Never forget Coco's Shitpost Review stream where a Redditor ranked the levels of the "Hololive Rabbit Hole" and
>watch streams
was on level fucking 9 or 12 of the fanbase

>>33667653
gacha is not banned, the announcement is very specific about slots, dice and other shit and focuses on specific websites

>>33667649
Waiting room numbers usually mean nothing expect in big even streams

>>33667460
It's like how IRyS got more CCV than Mumei when they played Holocure on the same day because IRyS started first. Some people just stick to the first stream they get.

>>33667708
With a cricket bat.

>>33667708
Out of anger, I suppose.

>>33667653
>>33667718

r/hololive btfo

>>33667493
Proof?

This has over million views btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET5X4voZsag

>>33667856
the blue faggot's numbers right now

>>33667765
>>33667776
As long as I'm hard it's still sexual to me.

>>33667833
You've got 110k of your own kind to discuss this shit with and you still bring it here?

>>33667828
Poker is a weird exception, how is that different from other gambling?

>>33667867
What did she mean by this?

>>33667902
skill based game

Another day, another HoloGold

i think what alot of people dont realise is that alot of ame viewers also watch other holomems but not the other way around thats why you see mumei tend to get a higher ccv than ame but when they both stream a pov the numbers tend to go the other way

>>33667902
It's not a real game of chance like the others.

>>33667902
I imagine
>being able to bluff, therefore, having some semblance of skill
is the thing here, compared to
>pull the lever and watch the spin go wooooo with flashy lights

Selen's numbers started dipping right before the hour started, i wonder if that was just natural bleed or if it was Holotourists jumping into Holo streams.

>>33667902
poker is treated as a sport in the US, where Twitch is based

>>33668013
It's usually impossible to maintain raid peaks, even if you can hold them for a while, because your replacement rate isn't high enough.

>>33667972
this is the most twisted cope i have ever seen thats basically admitting most of councils viewers are just bored ame fans

listening faufau talking about building the id portal all togheter and they will use her farms ... my kokoro

>>33667867
meanwhile kingworld is still stuck under 700k...

>>33667902
It's not about being different. They don't really care that much. They just want to get rid of the sketchiest looking shit since that's what people complained about

It's also not about being skill based because if that were the case they'd ban black jack

>>33668108
>most of councils viewers are just bored ame fans
Exactly

>>33668013
Selen is like consistently at the top for Holo crossover with Pomu, so probably

>>33668155
>black jack
is a skill game too

>>33666800
I think HoloEN really needs a new gen, though. People want to switch oshis, but there aren't many options. Also, there are a lot of dead hours, and they lack a strong gamer.

Mumei equipped fidget spinner

Fauna shitting on JP flattening.

>>33667972
I think you got the wrong point somewhere, ame has been showed to be number 2, not in terms of being the second most popular but being a second/third choice. Same kinda goes for mumei and you can see it in both their floor to ceiling differences

>>33668248
online blackjack won't let you count cards

>>33668108
>>33667972
well it cant be denied that a huge portion of councils viewership relies on tourist but if were talking about core audience than yeah obviously ames gonna take the cake when it comes to a stream that filters most people

>>33668290
i don't know if i love or hate that the jp server is a giant flatland filled with half destroyed buildings

Ragus may become a 3view today.

>>33668108
I mean it fits me. I got into Hololive with Ame but ended up watching council because I got filtered by her.

>>33667833
This is where the whole EN audience is right now btw.

Shilling Fauna
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xjhznn/vtuber_reads_the_mind_of_her_average_follower

>>33668248
yeah if you want to get banned

Watame please play MC together with fau...

What happened to this fag? I swear there are more faggots on leddit and Twitter shitting on incel and unicorns than actual people watching homos.

>>33667480
I mean it's literally what I'm doing.

>>33668401
he will catch a funnel from Ame/Mumei

>>33668290
why is she flattening the grass land though?

>>33668356
Makes it a more interesting theme park.

>>33668249
Give a lot of Kronii fans a half decent alternative within HoloEN and they'd ditch her yesterday.

>>33668436
Today isn't the day he will become a 3 views, though.

>>33668249
I mean Niji EN has 26 people and they haven't found a strong gamer. Seems like a hard time to find one. Blue guy from Tempus is probably the closest western vtuber to a "gamer"?

>>33668405
we need EN3 now. pic is irys announcement numbers

>>33668453
iron golem farms that are leveled with the floor require flat terrain and cave filling
she'd have a way easier time with this if she built this elevated like 40 blocks but then she can't follow a tutorial

>>33668453
Required for the iron farm, I think.

>>33668436
That's literally what Twittertrannies do, complain about things they don't actually care just because. Why do you think people laughed so hard at iLuna and hate Twitterfags?

>>33668512
Selen...

THIS people seriously underestimate the amount of tourist viewership that go to councils way compared to myth

Saplings care to explain? Why have you abandoned mommy?

And Fauna goes past Ame

>>33668401
That pattern clearly shows he's gonna breach it next bounce, unless he quits right now,

oof

Jesus Kanata.

>>33668436
you are only just figuring it out? they watch the homo collabs to own the unicorns not because they are interested

So how you important do you guys think hags are for holo ecosystem?
They are pretty important for JP but ID managed without them pretty well while EN seems to not be managing at all

>>33668564
Anon?

>>33668583
KANATA LOVE

>>33668249
>Lack a strong gamer
I mean, Fauna tries
Big emphasis on tries

>>33668539
Selen is actually mediocre to bad at almost every game, she just brute forced learned to be halfway decent at Apex. She has no natural gaming aptitude.

>>33668583
Coco really fucked her up didn't she

>>33668528
isn't there a big rift under that area?

>>33668582
>they watch the homo collabs
You haven't got this as figured out as you think you do

>>33668603
people oversell them a lot, they don't actually do that much

What happend to this thread during jp time their people talking about streams celebrating numbers and during en time there none of the same hype.

No JST kek
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572366608588218382

>>33668564
I AM SORRY!! UUUUUUU

>>33668506
>Debuffs himself almost as hard as Ame
>Still a 4 view
How does he do it

>>33668689
Because all these numbers are mediocre as fuck

>>33668506
I mean he's doing worse and worse every fucking day. I don't know how the homos will do in two years considering they still have some novelty buff and the EN audience has the attention span of a fucking mosquito.

>>33668583
I mean, that's legit how you improve your pronunciation, tho, like actually saying/speaking it out loud instead of just reading/listening to the words.

>>33668676
yes, the farm is gonna break immediately if she doesn't fill that cave

>>33668674
I think seeing how much better Chloe is at English earlier made her realize how much she'd been slacking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onKujGHpcsg

>>33668689
Oh yeah, I'm hyped to see if Ame or Fauna can get to 6500 viewers

>>33668603
What is "hag"? Over 30? Only like 3-4 JPs are that old.

>>33668689
Huh? There is nothing fancy happening today anon. Don't say VR/MC cause people are bored with them. Where were you during Gura big brain / 3d live?

>>33668724
Luck

>>33668706
>1PM EST
why?

>>33668506
STOP THE COUNTING

>>33668583
I don't even want to fuck Kanata anymore, I just want to hug her and tell her everything is okay...

>>33668788
it's actually 10 of them

>>33668689
EN isn't competitive for actual real gold very often. People just use this as a chat hangout or to shitpost during EN hours.

>>33668797
For ID, I guess ?

>>33668797
Because it's Kiara's event! Well, that's what KFP would say.

>>33668687
>>33668788
Hag posters are obnoxious faggots who can't shut up about their meme categorisation

>>33668724
Loyal fanbase from the start. I don't think he can go lowers unless he goes full SJW or drama.

>>33668689
The highest EN stream so far besides Ame using the ultimate bait buff is Kiara with 7k viewers playing fucking GTA

>>33668685
the mixed collabs, they don't care about them otherwise

>>33668583
Based Tenshi doing her reps, I hope it pays off for her

>>33668706
I'm on EST and 1 pm is probably the worst slot to put a game, is one hour before the lunch hours so no one will even watch it...

Which is more pressing for Fauna, a cow costume or a emo costume?

>>33668603
Only if they're actually good at tardwrangling like Mio or Botan.

>>33668838
Her popular phase has passed.

>>33668788
>Over 30? Only like 3-4 JPs are that old.
Anon, sit down for a moment, we need to talk...

>>33668964
can i get both

>>33668689
Holo vs Holo bait only works during JP time because HoloEN #'s get mogged. Its not like Nijifags are even fighting anymore the tally is like 18-2 on both normal and cripple tally.

>>33668583
Kanata...

>>33668945
Who eats lunch at 2 PM?

>>33668911
The most vocal reddit and twitterfags don't watch streams full stop, let alone specific collabs.

>>33668838
>>33668989
It's ok anon, I still want to fuck Kanatan.

>>33668724
Because he's chad af!

shit magni going to collab with girl...

>>33668964
Gotta be the Emo one, though I doubt it will be anytime soon unless it becomes her casual outfit.

>>33668674
She's always had a menhera streak, splitting from Coco just revealed it again.

>>33668689
North American hours are very dry and lack the numbers to compete for daily gold, plus NA is just NA. JST prime gets JP, SEA, EU, AUS, even some NA neets.

>>33668874
big events like this should be scheduled at either primetime JST or primetime NA. no in betweens. it's bad for numbers. Fuck EU

>>33669048
Another racist?

>>33668989
>>33668838
I still wanna fuck Kanata tho. Her ASMR is the best

>>33668964
Emo. She herself has said the cow thing is too much of a one-off novelty, like Pekora jail costume. Council's outfits will probably be "themed" though and so they'll be kind of constrained until their 4th outfits which can be more personalized.

>>33668964
Emo. It's like an actual part of her brand at this point

>>33669081
chupado lol

>>33668603
What's more important is a coordinator and tardwrangler, it just so happens that the best of those is a hag in JP.(Mio).

>>33668989
I still believe she will incline!

>>33668603
Hags are good not because they’re old, but because they have more experience streaming and making contents so they can navigate a Vtubing much better compared to zoomers. Pekora/Miko aren’t hags, but they’ve been active since middle school/high school with a much more hostile viewers on NND, so they are better at making contents that appeal to their fan bases and avoid land mines that the EN can’t help but trigger.

>Nigga streaming FGO
>No one rolling my Queen Himiko or Sen no Rikyu
>All of them lusting after Okita
What the fuck

>>33669048

>>33669078
It's an ENxID collab, schedule it at primetime JST, the NA girls won't wake up for it, schedule it at NA primetime, the ID girls won't wake up for it.

>>33668506
DAMNIT. I HAD MY SHITPOSTS READY AND EVERYTHING.

>>33669159
my wife gotalu is just that cute anon

Imagine the sex

>>33669159
Okita kind of looks like Iroha

>>33669048
it's a male(female)

This thread's numbers (PPM) are too low. We need new, more creative, baits, something like 'Mumei's zatsus are better than Vesper's' or some shit to increase engagement.

>>33668706
At the very least it's a Sunday for those of us who don't care about sports or church, but oof.

>>33669241
What's with Fauna and having these weirdly sensual graphs. She's done the same with Ina multiple times

>>33669241
>Imagine
Just draw it anon.

I don't know why some say CCVs are not important. We can glean lots of information out of it.

Why is Moom bleeding while Ame keeps inclining? I knew Ame started earlier but I expected it to even out after an hour

>>33668689
Because Gura 20k+ are the top number of EN side
It’s depressing

>>33669288
We need EN3 to post new baits about beating/being beaten by (pick literally anybody)

>>33669196
isn't eu time like midnight ID time?
moona is still in japan so JST is more her time.

>>33669346
mommy want to have fun with her coworkers anon

>>33668706
why is vox green texting in twitter. Does all of nijiEN hang out on 4chin?
>millie volunteering
damn nijicucks are still way ahead of Kronii's level of cucking

>>33669357
I want to have a date with Mumei, so I watch Ame POV

>>33668506
>1000 likes
>1000 CCV
Fucking kek, that's some bullshit

>>33669357
Ame's POV is more stable.

>>33669357
Ame has a cameraman pov so it isn't technically her, it's both of them

>>33669241
It's Mumei who's on a date but it's Fauna that's scissoring with Ame. At least Mumei likes to watch

>>33669357
You can't see Mumei from Mumei's POV

>>33669357
Mumei probably got a larger overlap with Fauna, could be her fans are moving over. Or maybe Ame's PoV is just better for some reason.

>>33669352
Lack of perspective. CCV is not "money important", but it's the most honest metric for someone whose primary content is streamed live. If you have low CCV it means your "fans" aren't actually fans because they prioritise other activities over watching you live, which in turn hints at weak engagement.

>>33668788
there's 5 gens that have 2 of them anon

>>33669352
People who say that have a favorite vtuber that gets low ccv but has high metrics in something else (SCs or whatever) or they dislike someone who gets high ccv.

>>33668689
show me the numbers

>>33669346
Mother nature invented sex

>>33669417
It's called viewer churn

>>33669357
ame's pov is better because it has both of them

>>33669417
Why would it be bullshit, its ame's fans dropping by and leaving a like only to go back to Ame.

>>33668583
Kanata still owes me sex

>>33669357
Mumei's PoV makes me want to throw up

>>33669417
>+1 hour stream + waiting room
come on anon

Among Us x Hololive is spreading to normie-sphere already. God save us all.

Current HoloEN box: 17k
Current NijiEN box: 7k
All of EN is grim. Not even worth 1 Pekora.

This tweet awfully sounds like this fucking thread. The daily hornyposting just won't stop.

I thought gacha was a buff this kinda low consider there barely anyone else streaming on nijisanji en side.

>>33669352
It's not important because it's magic YouTube numbers that Susan makes up out of thin air.

it didn't stay that way but this was the difference in peaks for a bit lol

>>33669067
Well, it also needs to be said that the streaming world in both regions are just completely different. This can't be said enough, because there's always dozens of new posters here who don't know shit on top of the hundreds of lurkers, but vtubers dominate the streaming market in Japan. What you see in the western world of streaming is that in Japan but reverse. There are less than a handful of facecam streamers that have any relevancy at ALL in Japan. The market is completely dominated by vtubers/vtuber adjacents and the streaming world centralizes around them, as evidenced by the fact that a simple Peko FGO stream made a giant ruckus on twitter.

It's just not the same in the west. No matter how many times people want to try and spin things, like low numbers or growth or whatever, people just need to understand that vtubing is and always will be a small corner of livestreaming in the West. Like, I sincerely hope those reading this understand that there are literal celebrities and sports stars collabing on twitch with these streamers. Drdisrespect just had a collaboration with a fucking football team recently. You seriously cannot think that HoloEN vtuber #4 is going to compete with that.

The fact that vtubing gets the viewership it does right now is already a feat of its own, and the fact that someone like Gura can still get millions of views rolling in says how powerful of a streamer she is on an individual level. But believing they're somehow a top dog in the streaming world is just lunacy. People believing that EN is capable of having like 4 10k streams happening at the same time knowing how fucky YT numbers can be too is just.. no

>>33669352
Unironically cope. I mean you can say it’s wrong on multiple levels but just saying it doesn’t matter is plain wrong. Otherwise Vtuber would still be making videos instead of streaming

>>33668506
Made it by the skin of his teeth, jesas blue boy.

>>33669421
>>33669438
>>33669451
>>33669539
Huh? Then if Ame POV has both, why is Mumei POV even needed? They must have thought of that right?

fauname sex!!!!!!!!

>>33669573
Proof? I want to post racists stuff holos have said if they are calling them cringe

>>33669595
Wrong thread sister.

XQC is ending let's see if EN gets boosted a bit

>>33669655
Idk anon, those graphs look weirdly synchronized

>>33669573
That's a lot of mindchairs, I would say.
Is exposure to normies really that bad? I mean, Nijisanji is salivating for that.

>>33669686
Too late, Ame and Mum are ending as well

>>33669686
wtf

>>33669603
Anyone ever even heard of that game? Genshin and Honkai impact seem to be the only gacha people care about. Also it's Finana.

>>33669643
>They must have thought of that right?

>>33669729
>Is exposure to normies really that bad
yes, most recent example: Kronii's drama

>>33669620
>People believing that EN is capable of having like 4 10k streams happening at the same time
Right now? Maybe not. But JP vtubing didn't start out by having >200k total overlap between all the corpos either.

>>33669686
did he end up breaking 200k?

>>33669417
You clearly haven't seen the worse that is ID

>>33669643
>They must have thought of that right?
lol

Dont see that often, pretty neat

So despite all the shitposting, Fauna won in the end

>>33669830
Yeah he did

>>33669729
Why would Niji want a dead game like Among Us?

>fauna is getting a funnel
SHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>33669643
So people who don't want to give Ame a view can go watch Mumei and make sure the money they SC goes to her hands.

>>33669620
tl;dr
fuck en, 1 JP>all of EN
Note this is what pniggers say/think with all their dumb shit, that just because EN was competitive with JP with Myth for a period of time that the realities of the different markets wouldn't catch up eventually

>>33669762
>Honkai
>People care
L fucking mao might as well put GFL or Epic 7 there

>>33669729
indirect exposition like this is good, if someone find holo thru the collab and is interested enough to check clips then streams it's organic growth.
direct expositions like the twitch collab that starsen did or the eceleb that mori and ollie did only fuck em up.

>>33669869
Drama really brings in the views, fucking hell.

>>33669230
>>33669262
I think Iroha should pay FGO

>>33669872
Oh yeah they should go for the goose goose duck collab

let's see the funnel

>>33669288
Interesting question actually. How would you rank the best zatsus in all of EN? I've only listened to a few people so I can't say I'm an expert. I know for someone like Mumei, her energy levels heavily impact the quality of the zatsu.

She's not going to get 10k in 30 minutes, maybe if they had ended earlier. IRyS is going to ruin it

>>33669620
It's like comparing anime movie box office returns in North American to regular movies. Yes DBZ can get like 20M or whatever which is amazing for an anime movie, but it'll still be like #8 for that week. The 9th remake of Batman will earn 50X as much.

AAAAAAAAAA ILLEGAL

>>33669561
Is it safe to say that Mumei's POV is for autists?

>>33669902
Who gives a shit when HoloEN can just rely on idol reps and 3D performances to help them stay afloat. I mean, if HoloEN continues to tour conventions all over the world, I doubt they will be buried in the future.

>>33669573
you can't say that without showing some reactions

WHAT NOW FAGGOT? MOMMY IS IN THE LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!

>>33669907
Around 350k between him and Hasan's streams

>>33670035

>>33670035
Where is the 1m sub for green whore?

>>33670029
Dude, you can check out the Among Us tweet. It’s the easiest place to spot normies.

>>33668706

UUUUUU

>>33669810
Anon, once you climb to the TOP of the streaming pile, it becomes easier to maintain your position as long as you don't royally botch it with a series of big yabs as NUMBERS BEGET NUMBERS.
EN's problem of insufficient momentum due to lacking consistent 3d LIVES + events, being separated by geography, and insufficient members that are just hard streaming monsters (whereas JP had Choco+Aqua early on to really crank those hours) means they've ended up bleeding a lot of their more casual viewers into being clipfags too, as the EN scene has always been very heavy on clipviewing over full-stream watching due to the timezone splits as well.

>>33669875
NEVER PUNISHED!!

textbook example of illegal funnel

>>33670085

come on now

>>33670085
pomu's a fucking whore

>>33670085
Nijisisters? You ok watching this shit?

how illegal will this funnel be

>>33669686
Have the twitch vtuber tab open. One is Vei's boyfriend (not a vtuber), another guy who's not a vtuber, and 3rd Nyanners boyfriend (actually a vtuber). The first person anyone mightt even recognize is Bao at 4th, with 3k. Pretty grim. No evidence of any inclines.

GO FAUNA GO

>>33670085

>>33670085

>>33670143
Who's more autistic in this image?

>>33670143
He's too cool...

>>33670076
>subcope
HAHAHAHA
And Gura is bigger than Pekora right?

>>33670119
In no timeline is this the market's maximum potential. If holoEN sucks, then it sucks. But it just means the experiement was shut down prematurely.

I hate this gay world

>>33670205
begone timelooper

>only 1800 funnel
where did the other 8000 go holofags

>>33669620
It's absurd that a single vtuber holds pretty much the entirety of the NA audience on her back but how do you expand that without cannibalizing the existing talents? It's clear from NijiEN that they did not exactly grow the NA fanbase so much as they just fled to CN/SEA. Is the EN audience just permafucked from now on?

>>33670144
I thought that too at first, but it's actually just Millie with a Pomu-ish avatar.

>>33670248
verification hell

>>33669897
Mumei disabled SCs

>>33659404
she didn't have to have a company press release, she chose to; in fact, this rama was more due to her comments on it than the actual collab.

>>33670248
fauna's style is a tourist filter

>>33670085
Why are SEA women such whores? SEAcels, this one's on you.

>>33670237
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>33670237
>breaks 3view not by his own power but dripfed viewership from girls ending their streams
god i hate this leeching blue nigger like you would not believe

>>33670248
waiting rooms for upcoming other holos and bed

>>33667091
cope, seethe and dilate

For the people asking if EN Holos will get xqc funnel.The answer is no. Twitch numberfags already have data on twitch funnels and chatter overlaps.
https://twitchatlas.com/

>>33670237
Teacucks

>>33670257
holy shit lmao i didn't even realize

>>33670338
Good. Faggots can stop bringing them up now

>>33670237
>/vt/ supposedly hates homos
>still hasn't harassed anyone to suicide
pathetic

>>33670248
Watching clips, go to bed, go to work, go to toilet

>>33670085
cumpscare incoming

>>33670237
now you know why management pushes collabs with the girls so desperately

>>33670237
Why do they exist...caused nothing but trouble, brought nothing to the table, barely anyone gives a shit about them

>>33670237
HAHAHAHAHAHA
ANY DAY NOW, JUST NOT TODAY

>>33670226
Taking over a year+ to debut EN gens was a big mistake on Cover's part. In an ideal world, Council would have come out around....April, and EN3 sometime around Feb 2022.
This is not an ideal world, so all there's left is cope.

>>33670338
How do I read this? What do any of these names mean? Are Ironmouse and Nyanners on here?

>>33670471
Those are channel names. Just search it in the bar anon.

So Tempus really is the EN3

>>33670237
literally need the girls to stay afloat

>>33670435
because yagoo is a fucking nerd

>>33670338
Is this the eve online map every one talks about?

>>33670338
>/#/ get btfo by Twitchtard
Fucking hell ... Why does this thread exists again?

Love to see it