/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33603452
you see all those superchats? Yeah, those are mine.

>comeback stream
Now wait a month.

>>33603452
Why is she making money? The narrative told me she'd have less money and she'd lose viewers immediately.

TRUST ME SHE’S GONNA REGRET CUTTING THE SCHIZO STALKERS OUT OF HER FANBASE
ANY MINUTE NOW SHE’S GONNA GO BACK ON IT

>>33603637
>I-it's going to happen eventually!
The amount of cope in one message

>>33603452
Check out Rosemi's SCs from the day the NijiCN boys appeared until three months later. She lost ~80%. That's the trend.

>>33603452
SHE'LL RECLINE, I SWEAR
2 MORE WEEKS,TRUST THE PLAN

>>33603749
I’ll concede your point if you’re right on October 20th.

loving the great unicorn purge of 2022

>>33603452
No I think farming sympathy from virtue signaling cuckolds instead of people looking for a girlfriend simulator is also viable (and basically the same thing )

>>33603452
all these SC were sent by herself

>>33603452
Where are the 60k people who liked her tweet?

>>33603452
Wait a month for the "yaasss queen slay" tourists to move on. These people won't stay around. Same shit happened to Rosemi and Finana.

she’s gonna regret it! any second now!

>>33603966
Yep

>>33603954
this is particularly pathetic cope considering unicorn fags have also been blasting the wiki link to the pareto principle on this board all day

>>33603793
>Ignored by homobeggars

Its the drama buff, of course You will have more money and viewers the days you return from a break with drama on top off it.Look at what's happening on twitch at the moment people love drama
Now if those numbers can last a week after that we can safely say that the unicorn threat is completly bullshit.

>>33603793
>NijiCN
Kek

See told you we tempuschads would make up for the unicorns and gachis that left her

>>33603452
It doesn't happen instantly
It will be like Marvel Phase 4, the interest drops gradually

>>33603672
Believe what you want to believe, that's my advice

I will end you.

>>33603452
jesas I'd already forgotten about her
well, until the next shitstorm I guess

>>33603637
yeah people come and go, once the unicorns go, new viewers come. it'll always be like that. the more you wish the worse, universe give the other way around

>>33603452
isnt this a comeback stream? what did you expect

>>33603966
holy cope, you lost and you know it

>>33603452
Cool I’m in there!

>>33603452
And this will be her peak, from now on it will only be downhill

It's a little disappointing. But considering we've seen this play out countless times, everyone knows this type "support" quickly runs out.

>>33604606
Like I said, we've seen this play out before.

>>33603452
Kek, ENicorn didnt exist, faggots spend $5 and scream like they are Orca, just check it yourself in Playboard, even chink fujo spend more money for Vox, it's embarassing

8.6k people in Kroni stream hoping to clip drama.

>>33603452
>over 40k reddit and twitter impressions
>not even 15k ccv

>>33603966
Let them celebrate, it will be like with Rushia were they were all cocky saying that the yab would kill GFE once for all in Hololive, and it's actualy the opposite in Japan with more Holos cravinng for her former audience.
Let them be happy they slayed the chudcels and just let them remind them of this when her numbers get worse than Kiara.

>>33604716
Nijisaji isn't a example for that type of shit my dude. Imagine thinking your 5 USD membership is worth anything and Kronii owns you anything

>>33603452
Unicorns didnt claim that, theyve all said it was gradual and you would see this initial burst of donations after drama as per usual
>paying money to "own" others
Lmao

>>33604909
Already looking bleak for her. Oh nyo

>>33604569
honestly if she stops forcing herself to be that awkward thing she's been trying to force herself to be more people probably will come.

I agree that it’s much too early to make a judgement for sure, but to be honest, I doubt she’ll suffer much for this long-term. Like with rushia, her whales aren’t going anywhere, they’re not the type of schizo unicorns so prevalent /here/. I assume.

>>33604569
>new viewers come
Not always.

>>33603452
The stream after drama shit happens always has a bunch of twitter and reddit simps coming out of the woodwork to pay their virtue signaling tithe so they can show they did the good thing to their peers. It's about long term sustainability in the end.

>>33605023
>the identical example to what has happened here isn't a valid example
OK.
Keep thinking a comeback stream after major drama is going to be her baseline from now on.

NNNNNOOOOOOOO I WAS TOLD TWITTER TRANNIES DON'T DONATE THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGG

>>33604796
sure. stay coping

It's the same as nijien
After a big drama you hope they just had a bad case of foot in mouth. But as you realize they're actually retarded and they double down on it you just stop caring and stop watching.

>>33603452
Any time someone comes back from vacation, they get bombarded with super chats welcoming them bad. Add a bit of controversy to it, and that'll triple.

Then it'll dry up. It's the devoted pay pigs, the fanatics, that donate day after day like it's their job. They're the ones that provided long term sustainability. Chase them away and you'll only get a payout for major events like outfits, birthdays, anniversary, or major achievements. The rest of the streams? They'll dry up.

>>33603452
Post this again in a few months, Mori. Those numbers sure are something.

>>33603452
Wait until she doing collab regularly with Homo like those Niji girls. Hardcore fans won't leave instantly, they will lose interest and moving on over time.

>>33605432
>After a big drama you hope they just had a bad case of foot in mouth. But as you realize they're actually retarded and they double down on it you just stop caring and stop watching.
RIP Green necro retard.

>>33605203
Its been a long time since Ame's improve yourself right? Did it impact her significantly?

>>33605484
>They're the ones that provided long term sustainability
Yeah, for indies or smaller corpos. But Cover's big game is endorsements and partnerships. Cover doesn't give a shit about individual whales.

>>33603452
sure buddy I don't even want to shitpost about her and her fans anymore
this is getting too pathetic

>>33605603
Looking forward to seeing this exact post repeated word for word for the next few months while literally nothing changes

Disingenous faggot. I'll wait you to say this shit again after she gets spitroasted by tempus cocks 3 weeks later and when reddit saviourfags dump her for their next drama whores

>>33605814
NTA but the answer is no, incase the anon you're responding to can't figure it out themselves.

>>33605824
>>33605999
The Reddit cope. The same Reddit that said males would do better than females

>>33605999
Lmao you homoniggers would still pretend that nothing changes when /#/ shows you her reclining numbers.

>>33605824
Where are kronii's endorsements and partnerships? At least Ayame's got those going for her.

We've seen this before. They get a big boost right after they come back from the anti-unicorns who want to "own" the unicorns, and then those people get bored and move on because they never actually cared about the vtuber, only the political statement.

>>33604569
Faggot hands typed this post, you don't even watch streams, let alone superchat

>>33606250
>>33606261
The fact remains that not a single vtuber has ever had her numbers significantly suffer because they collabed with a man. You literally can't point to a single case.

>>33603966
Isn't Rosemi super right wing anon? I heard she likes wearing a particular red hat

>>33605824
that's ridiculous, why would my oshii care more about a global sponsorship than some hikki obsessively donating his grandma's inheritance?

>>33606366
No, but kronii's case is more nuanced than "durr hurrr male collab".

>>33603793
>>33603966
Rosemi barely collab with males

>>33606250
It's very naive to think Cover is courting gachi money anymore. They want Taco Bell and Marvel, and they're not gonna get their by slaving to the whims of mentally ill men who still spend half their time shitposting their talents online to the point where they've repeatedly had to sue

>>33606250
They are in Nijisanji anon. The males get about 3x the views of the females, and 5x the donations. Nijisanji's males get so much donations it's absolutely fucking ridiculous. They get more than all the Hololive girls get. They're making so much money on merch now, that the EN branch currently accounts for 1/3 of Nijisanji's entire income.

>Rice
Another namefag Kronie forgives his mistress and stays under her heel. Of course none of you were really gonna do anything once you saw Gabe fucking explode.

>>33605824
>but Cover's big game is endorsements and partnerships.

Nissin isn't going to put a low number whore on their noodles. Council is dead weight for cover and even damaging the brand

>>33603452
You already forgot about lean girl aren't you? I just reminding to you that few weeks after the drama she got tons of supas.
Now she can't even beat Kiara... by any metric... even her songs are doing worse than chiken's...
Slowly, gently, this is how a life is taken...

>>33606779
>low number
The argument I was responding to said numbers didn't matter because it was the select gachis who paid their rent, you're just engaging in a circular argument at this point. Either the tiny percentage of gachis matter or they don't, make up your own mind.

>>33606876
They don't when big sponsors are ACTUALLY involved. Like in regards to the habitual absentees like Ayame and Aqua.

You think kronii's going to have Taco Bell and Marvel going for her? Come on...

>>33606876
But anon, as we've seen in Nijisanji, the amount of money the males bring in completely fucking dwarfs the kind of money the females bring in. Women donate drastically more money than men do. This is certainly the reason Cover released Holostars EN. And why they're probably going to release more males in the future.

>>33604992
Oh God, oh no. Kronii will still have a fan base that likes her for who she is, and helps with her income as she makes content she wants. The horror. All of this while faggots like you go to attack the new vtuber of the week.

>>33604569
that worked very well for mori and finana lmao

If you give money to a vtuber, you are a cuck.
C--U--C--K. KEK.
No if's, and's, or but's.
>b-but she's my oshi!
Why? Because she made your heart go doki doki? Does it also go doki doki to the thought of her using that money to pleasure another man?
Face it. You are a cuck, and any excuse is just a cope.
Don't give money to vtubers.

https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/32171023/#32174398
So where are all you idiots calling this schizo based? Are you on OP's image throwing money at your woman after denouncing her 3 weeks ago?

>>33607012
This is about HoloEN and HoloEN policies. Cover has made it clear across all of HoloEN that these collabs are fine. They certainly took gachi money into equation when coming to that decision. Therefore, it's pretty damn clear to see gachi money isn't a decision maker.

>>33605203
>Like with rushia, her whales aren’t going anywhere
Anon the main difference is whenever Rushia, now Nazuna, fucks up she usually apologizes profusely and makes sure to increase the pandering to her gachikoi and tries to never fuck up again, she's recently mentioned no male collabs again on her streams. Kronni has essentially done none of that and spat in her Gachikois face and will continue to do so, so let's not pretend it's a 1-1 situation. Honestly I don't get trying to use Rushia ad a comparison considering she still pandering and bends to the will of her gachikoi.

>>33603452
>OP doesn't realize her SC revenue will decline over time and not immediately
>OP declares false victory
You just set yourself up for getting btfo in two or three months

>>33607072
Mori is still getting akasupas and memberships, what do you mean? I don't watch Finana so I don't know.

>>33607418
Mori struggles to get 5k viewers on a good day.

>>33607363
This.

It's what people don't get. While rushia fucked up, it was just that a fuck up and she completely realized it an attempted to make amends at cost of her own career.
She was the ideal idol. And covers ridiculous excuse for firing her was pathetic.

I stopped following her in her cat days because I wasn't going to member her, but I appreciate what she stands for.

>>33607564
so does kiara and she's the new unicorn queen according to this board

>>33607337
>Cover can do no wrong and never miscalculates

How very r/holo of you.

>>33607337
I think they just don't give much of a fuck about the EN branch, because it's so small and brings in so little money (with the possible exception of Gura). So they are letting them do whatever they want, because they don't care.

Miko and Pekora alone have more viewers than all of HoloEN combined.

>>33607633
Rumao.

>>33607659
I never even implied that. Maybe this will blow up in their face. But the argument in this thread again and again is that Cover cares about supas when it's super fucking clear they currently do not and bragging about witholding your gachi supas is pathetic cope

>>33607633
Double RUMAO.

>>33607740
if I'm going to numberfag, I'm not going to do it with a retard

>>33607633
she had an incredibly bad start but is steadily inclining. still bad time slot and filters people with the chicken voice and playing zelda for the 103049734th time.

>>33607805
>early access to mega buff game
who kicked you out of numbers buddy?

>>33607633
You stuppid niggers, Kiara already have men in her channel, like 3 times already. Also KFP hates and reject unicorns since many schizo already make stupid shit. Seriously, what in the fuck are you talking about? Go touch so grass and fuck women irl, stop being a faggot.

>>33607852
>>33607880
>REEEEEEEEEEE IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE OF X

>>33607852
You can't numberfag because the numbers aren't on your side and you've been blown the fuck out

>>33607805
This game comparison seems completely fair and balanced, I see no problems here. Kiara truly is the future of HoloEN.

>>33607898
They wouldn’t know anon, they’ve never watched her

>>33607659
kek you faggot "expect a corpo to make basic corpo decisions" is common sense, not an ayn rand love letter

>>33603966
>Y-You'll see, she'll miss us! You'll be sorry!

Unicucks are the sorriest bunch of human beings on this planet. Can't even justify your existence with money.

>>33607852
Well it does seem that Kiara is more popular than Mori these days.

>>33607898
>Kiara already have men in her channel
Kiara will never go anywhere near Tempus
>Also KFP hates and reject unicorns
You're making that up out of thin air
>Go touch so grass
Touch a shotgun to your forehead

>>33607930
"kiara and mori have similar ccv numbers" why is that even controversial or a problem, jesus fuck

>>33607915
Dont be a numberfag if you cant handle being fucking told. Mori is playing a shitty sequential story game at a shitty time zone versus a buff game in which she got early access to content that no one had yet. Why don't you show a nonbuff stream? Oh yea, because its barely 3-4k CCV on EU timezone.

>>33603911
I love cuckshit but I will never lower myself to donate to any girl in this world.

>>33607880
>Kiara cares about her fans and picks a game to provide content they want to see
>mori drinks some lean and gets high while playing an afk game her fans hate and nobody wants to watch
>this doesn't count as kiara deserving higher numbers

>>33603452
Is literally the Mori lean arc all over again intense support to dunk on the haters but now her streams do horrible numbers, just wait

>>33607337
Except EN seems to rarely get any sponsorships, let alone major sponsorships. Not counting Mori's UMG contract, when was the last actual major sponsorship for EN? Blue Archive? Capcom/ Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak?

>>33603966
I checked the names and those people were frequent kronii superchatters. What are you talking about?

>>33604992
Are you really trying to spin RushiaGate as a win for the Unicucks? You're the ones that sperged out over some guy, which ended up being nothing but only after Unicucks prompted Rushia to do something stupid and get fired. But sure. YOU WON!!!

>>33607852
>>33607880
>>33607990
>>33608019

>>33608079
Based

>>33607898
>kokorobeats
known music producer. kiara is an idol.
>gigguk
literally mandated promotion stream.
>yagoo
yagoo

>>33608228
uhhh hasn't Fubuki done holostars collabs?

>>33607740
>>33607805
If you're going to numberfag, do it properly or gtfo.
最大同接 is the amount of viewers max for the stream
Now behold, picrel, the past 9 streams before anniversary, count how many go above 5k, wait sorry you can't numberfag so I'll just tell you, it's 3. The anon you're trying so hard to btfo isn't wrong that she rarely goes above 5k.

>>33607880
>>33607930
You don't wanna compare mori's holocure stream either anons

>>33608079
Based? Based.

>>33608079
>Kiara will never go anywhere near Tempus
She will, not even Gura or Fauna are safe, get a grip in reality already anon
>You're making that up out of thin air
Kakun, nothing else to say
>Touch a shotgun to your forehead
Nah, unicorn tears made my day, come on boy, fuck a girl

>>33608019
>Y-You'll see, she'll miss us! You'll be sorry!
Kronii already had a small mental breakdown over unicorns and had to go on a break. Do you think making the situation even worse is going to help?

>>33607880
>mega buff game
>Mori barely gets 7k ccv when streaming it

>>33608017
Yeah, because holoen's management is totally not into woke shit/twitter crowd and is an example of enlightened corpo at maximum efficiency and effectiveness. Which explains why it's so different from holoJP.

The fuck are you on?

>>33608259
Copium.

>>33608169
>Kiara cares
>Mori doesn't
>Kaira deserves
None of this shit matters to numberfags
Sana didn't deserve the numbers she got on graduation but she got them regardless.

>>33608317
Did she also do a hyped up first look stream for the biggest upgrade the game has ever had before it was released?

>>33608317
Mori's popularity declined a lot. It's hard to imagine this didn't have something to do with all her scandals

>Cucks
>Cucks
>Cucks
>Cucks
When will these retards understand that people don't think under their paradigm lol
Don't tell me they are as undeveloped as the zhangs.

>>33608354
Retard. No wonder you got kicked out of /#/ and thats a very low bar.

>>33608258
She has but for future notice when you see your enemy make a mistake don't correct them
https://youtu.be/o-PB9j_Kw4s?t=402

>>33608259
Numberfaggot I kneel

>>33608440
Cope and seethe.

>>33608174
Kronii is doing a raid shadow legends stream next week

>muh gabe
Faggot has the gall to publicly call Marine an untalented whore. I don't care what he thinks.

>>33608428
They still think they "won" the cultural war in 2016, when i reality they got exposed like the retards they are, the only thing they talk is about how to made a man without doing anything to contribute on society more than proclaiming what is bad or good, when morality has been proven wrong time after time.

>>33608613
>unironic discord tranny
Lmao

>>33608174
Digimon last month. What, bandai namco not big enough for you?

>>33608590
You mean the schizo that's obsessed with Kronii? I thought he died or some shit

>>33608317
>Mori barely gets 7k ccv when streaming it
Seems like yesterday when Mori streamed RE7 and got 20k. The lean yab really killed her ccv, huh.

>>33608856
My bad, it was RE Village.

>>33608856
Reminder anon, the people here don't actually watch streams. They like to larp and pretend they do.

>>33608678
>"Are those unironic discord trannies be here right now anon?"
Calling everything a bunch of /pol/ hugbox buzzwords won't deny the reality of how fragile your morality is anon.

>>33608523
>82 mins ago
Yeah I have to cope with the fact you're openly displaying how retarded you are. Thanks retard.

>>33608856
Twitter trannies don't watch streams. Anyone who panders to themnis doomed

>>33603452
The same thing happened to Mori, look at her now.

>>33608856
>yesterday
>RE7
>20k
lol what? Is your program malfunctioning or something? You need to go back.

>>33608816
no, he is pathetically sitting in Kronii's stream right now

>>33609011
>Only EN signed by record label
>Still on top of total views

>There will be no recline!

>Okay, there is some recline. But that's a good thing because that means the unicorns are gone!

>Hololive management failed to promote the EN branch enough, that's why there is a huge recline. Also, the members were probably too afraid of the backlash to do the popular stuff.

>I can't believe EN Vtubers continue to be restricted by the influence of idol culture. We need more talent freedom in the industry. Time to boycott Cover.

>>33609086
So Mori's got her music to fall back on. Fair enough.

What does kronii have after all this?

>>33609113
>Reddit spacing
Carl Sagan +1 fellow redditor

>>33609054
>>33608928

>>33603452
I gave her $110 bucks, because her record speed graduation journey will be fun to watch.

>>33609066
I guess that's his way of doing "borderline, anti stuff".

Fucking battered wife.

>>33609113
Tale as old as time. Has any industry thrived by kneeling to retarded twitter wokesters?

>>33609113
>There will be no recline!
the end

>>33603452
pretty sure Mori got a buff after the Connor thing too but look at her now. Consistently trailing behind Kiara despite 2 million dead subs. Even Kobo's feeling the Tempiss debuff.

>>33609066
Dude's a fucking bitch with no balls whatsoever, a shotgun to the face would do him wonders.

>>33609271
Explain Mori.

>>33609208
The same thing you said about Mori, and i still see her in Myth

>>33608201
Certainly we did, more of the HoloJP girls have doing GFE stuff since Rushia got fired after all, can't take that as anything else than a win, you like it oe not :)

>>33609271
Explain all of EN right now.

>>33609271
Just like Baelz and Mori...

>>33609054
Holy kek>>33609207

>>33609292
sounds like she had 20k viewers yesterday for some run of the mill game stream, seems like she's doing fine

>>33609292
>Most successful holoEN musician

>>33609183
All the retarded unicorns that absolutely will come back once she's like "ok kinda sorry now come back and kiss my feet"

>>33609292
Mori the one receiving money and still has a record label? Yeah, what about her? I'm 100% sure she has no unicorns left, who the fuck is giving her all that money?

>>33609054
I like how people use the "You need to go back" like it's the jack of all trades to win arguments, even when they're objectively wrong.

Get fucked anon

>>33608461
>its numberfagging when im losing
Dont be that guy anon

>>33609377
uuuhhhh >>33607740
>>33609359
uuuhhhh
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg

>>33609399
She doesn't even have to do that, see >>33609066

They might have to change their username and assume a new identity if they went on a schizo rampage though.

>>33609468
>Let's ignore Spotify and iTunes

>>33609468
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE DONT LOOK AT THE LINK

>>33609331
No real gachis and no real unicorns, just wannabe niggers that wanna be part of something, there explained.

>>33609515
>Kiara has 0 listens on streaming services
ogey.

>>33603452
unicorns are all poor Indonesians.

>>33607072
Yeah Mori is still the number one most superchatted EN, meanwhile Gura and Ina are consistently at the bottom.
Uniggers are a worthless audience.

>>33609496
Yeah i know this is why i fucking cringe at this board existance, all the retards here act like throwing a few bucks a month to a vtuber makes them unicorns or that liking one vtuber over others makes them a gachi, but all of them are just pathetic posers that wanna talk to people, real gachis and unis don't have time to consume drama cuz they are busy idolizing something they deep down know they will never have.

>>33609269
Do you niggers actualy think obsessing over whatever or not your pretend girlfriend talked with men online is "based and redpilled"?

>>33609496
They won’t be able to hide their membership status, especially not a day one like Gabe.

But going back to the other anon’s post. OP’s image has some other Kronie namefags shelling her money right now, so yea, all the big people bitching and screaming about crusading have all kept their memberships and gone back to feeding her next weeks worth of subway sandwiches while telling everyone to not be cucked and walk away. It’s absolutely equal parts hilarious and pathetic. The shitposters were mostly right when they told /infinity/ that they weren’t gonna do shit.

Twitter just doesn't learn, huh?
According to them Rushia's graduation would kill this kind of content because it was too risky and blah, blah it goes against their freedom, blah blah, and look at them now, instead of fighting against gachikois the girls pander to them and try to not upset them.

>>33609845
Kiara about to pass her in a few months just like how Marine passed her subs. Tik tok.

>>33609907
> i fucking cringe at this board existance

You can always return to reddit, where ostriches bury their heads and post unfunny memes while circlejerking only about the "good things".

>>33603452
>drama buffed Kronii still can't beat Gura talking stream
so, nothingburger Afterall

>>33609586
It's like you fags don't even try when the narrative doesn't spin your way.

>>33610106
I actually really like Mera Mera and End of a Life, don't tell anyone though

>>33610106
KFPs are not very good numberfags.
They aren’t much good at anything just like their oshi.

>>33607578
Fair on all points but while Cover did somewhat have a reason I'm mainly talking about people using her new persona as an example. It's retarded because she's essentially buffed up the GFE to Wife Experience and, after what was essentially a minor yab, routinely denies collabs if it even comes close to making her Gachikoi uncomfortable, being Kson publicity asking her if she'd want to collab with RPR, which she denied autisticly on stream, to her pulling out of Ksons collab with Akari when the topic of the English lesson changed to how to flirt and hook up with with guy. This is not and will never be a Kronni situation considering how autistic she is about keeping her Gachikoi, especially after her last unarchived stream.

>>33610106
>strategically only shows the old stuff
>left out the new shit

>>33610315
>Mera Mera and capsule are there

Are you blind?

>>33603793
Post it then

>>33610315
Are you fucking stupid or just resorted to cheap trolling?

>>33603452
Wait and see how it turns out long-term. Stuff like this happens in entertainment all the time. Brief spike in attention and revenue until tourists lose interest. Core fanbase may or may not have jumped ship.

>>33609298
Me? I was never involved in the Mori drama, but her music contract obviously stopped that from happening.
I don't think Kronii will be here in January, she finds streaming too stressful.

>>33603452
oh hey its the same dumb shit you morons did with Mori back then
have you checked how her scs are lately anon?

>>33608259
>Kiara did ironbeads
uh, based and arts-and-crafts pilled

>>33610315
KFP, everyone.
>left out new shit
>Capsule
>Mera Mera
>i-i meant Kiara's stuff!!
>Fever Night

>>33610106
Kiara isn't popular in Japan, but maybe you're new to that drama.

>>33610315
>433,327 vs 86,062 monthly listeners
lol

>>33610545
About to get passed by Kiara just like how Marine just passed her in subs.

>>33610380
Capsule is just leeching off Suisei

>Cuckbeats on the side of twitter trannies and roasties
Can't say I'm surprised

>>33610510
Core fanbase didn't go anywhere. Her dislikes during stream went up 100 but likes are consistent. Stop talking about shit you know nothing of.

>>33610822
>Misinformation being spread
>Try to correct misinformation
>Why are they siding with X

>>33610896
Mori being one of the lowest viewed members in Hololive is the plain truth. Her streams fucking suck and her new songs are struggling too

>>33610545
Here, I bothered to check the 6 streams before anniversary (I left out the 7th but its 500k+ yen)
総スパチャ金額 is the amount made. Looks good to me. About 800 or so a stream almost doing continuation of a game I care nothing about.

>>33611056
A simple look at the long term numbers say that your assumptions are wrong, though. Spotify stats say otherwise

>>33611149
>look at these numbers from 1 year ago these recent numbers are just flukes
RUMAO. No wonder cuckbeats are on the side of twitter troons and reddit tards.

>>33603452
no one /here/ actually sends superchats, these regulars are obsessed with the chuubas and they'll never stop supporting them even if their oshi has sex on stream

>>33611149
Run the numbers on songs released in 2022 anon. Barely anyone is listening to them

>>33611212
You cannot refute Spotify stats, as well as the fact that her older songs still get views .

>>33611271
Where do you get that idea? The views from YT?

>>33611271
Anon, the Backstreet Boys still get money from people playing I want it that way despite not rating for decades now.

Whoa, Deadbeats are actually applying themselves. I'm actually impressed even after all the shits they've been exposed to.
Mori a cute and hardworker. Just lay off alcohol forever please.

Now remember when "vox won' after the Reimu yab. He used to get 160k per month and last i checked it was down to 60k last month before he took his break from stress about ###'s

>>33607863
No she isnt, lol. Myth as a whole has been pretty steady, with Mori being the only notable downward changes, but most likely due to the games she has been streaming lately.

>>33611271
Ok, done. Over half a million on almost each and every song is definitely a lot better than "barely anyone"

>>33610841
Reading comprehension doko

>>33611766
>Only recents songs with big plays are when she's leeching off Suisei and when a large megacorp wastes money marketing her
RUMAO. It's over.

>>33603452
bruv thats not how it works, thats one side's celebratory money. wait till the wave settle before doin the research

>>33611821
You said there's a spike in attention. There isn't based on the likes.

>>33611900
Gee anon, you do realize that older songs still getting views isn't a bad thing for her?

>>33611560
She mostly quit. She never really drank like rrats from here would have you believe. Just talked about it whenever she would drink. Which led people to think it happened all the time.

>>33611900
Anons and femanons on this board. Behold exhibit A of what I like to call "goalpost moving" Alternative names such as "Coping" or "This femanon has no arguments so she falls back to her safety net of buzz words like 'leeching'" are being considered.

>>33609429
>who the fuck is giving her all that money?
Gachikois. Despite the popular belief they aren't same as unicorns.

>>33611766
Holy fucking recline. And this is with UMG shilling her lmao

>>33604098
>it's been posted once today
>4 times in total in the whole history of the board
See you when the pride parade is over

>>33611766
So shes reclined. Why sugar coat it with "w-well 500k is still good"

>>33612400
So what's stopping Kronii from receiving money from gachikoi again? Last I checked she didn't insult them as well.

Just a reminder that 2 songs Marine released this year have more views than all of Moris 2022 releases combined

>>33612520
Because believe it or not, people that listen to her older stuff impacts her just as much as to her newer stuff. Some people only listen to the songs they like and not the rest, which is why the numbers fluctuate.
Lastly, that's only spotify and not including itunes. I'm not an applefag thank fucking god, so I can't fish those numbers off itunes.

>>33612530
Mori still has the same paypigs she had for two years now. We will see how many Kroniis paypigs stay and if not then will they get replaced.

>>33612520
She's not reclining, her older stuff is still getting plays.

>Castle on the Hill still getting plays means that Tides failed.

>>33612667
She still won't leave even when that is true.

>>33603452
>Hell yeah I donated just to prove the unicorns wrong! Just imagining the look on their faces makes me coom. Of course I will never watch or donate to her again, I'm in this for the short term satisfaction!
>I'm a tranny btw

>>33612667
Those songs came with MVs that cost more than Mori's album.

>>33612530
Nothing. Gachikoi will still give you money because they're seriously (gachi) in love (koi) with you. Ame and Mori still have their loyal members, and the people who left were the control freaks or attentionwhores.
>inb4 cuck cuck cuck
My love for my mother and my oshi are different types of love. I wish I could give them the appreciation they deserve though.

Hololive has squandered all good will it had and just continues to suck more. Kroni, or any other chuuba who failed will just sink into the quagmire of a "general streamer" who number in the thousands and are all basically the same. It takes EFFORT and TALENT to be an idol, and people like me like that a lot. The paradox here is that it's actually (you), the people who approve of male-female collabs that are weak. You simply can't say no to a girl. You are so cowardly in fact that you cannot even entertain the idea that she should adhere to some sort of expectations, so you grovel and whimper about how "based" she or Cover are.

You're also missing the real big picture. You're comparing CCV's of say Kroni or Ame or Mori and when you see a slight decrease you assume that the evil unicorns are now gone and few in number. What you are failing to see is that if Kroni, Ame and Mori lost say 5% or 10% of viewers that's a huge number of people that stopped watching Hololive. Those little fractions add up really fast. I am no exception. I only watch Gura and Kiara, and chuubas from other companies who don't collab with males. And if any of you tards and twitter enthusiasts were actually vtuber fans you'd see how people seem to suddenly flood into this or that company and chuuba every single goddamn time HoloEN fucked up. Hololive is slowly, painstakingly rendering itself into shit, and it seems their own management is oblivious to this. You also all forget just how insanely huge HoloEN's audience was during Myth's golden era. What we are seeing now are just lefovers cuckolds and yesmen, with few notable exceptions.

You aren't winning. You aren't owning us unicorns. You're just destroying Hololive. And these measures are just acts of desperation as the EN branch tries to stop the bleeding through meaningless measures instead of doing what is right (it can't be done anymore, maletubers were the death of HoloEN). We moved on from the company because it betrayed us and isn't worth watching anymore. So fight. Fight for scraps with Nijisanji. Devour each other while you sink. The future of vtubing is in indies and small corpos.

>>33612667
As if it were a fair comparison. To my knowledge Mori releases her MVs long, long after the songs are out. Marine's MV releases ARE the song releases, and the first way most people listen to them.

By the time Mori's songs get MVs people have listened to her stuff enough to know whether they prefer X or Y song and not pay attention to the ones they don't like. Can't do that on a first watch.

I don't even like Mori, but come on

>>33613119
Honestly if Gabe necks himself, I'll give Kronii a W for it. Seeing some of the things he's said in her chat, and the gore fanfics he wrote, is pretty worrying.

>>33612226
I mean forever, anon. Just don't touch that stuff again, and don't talk about it.
It's foul substance, and worse in Mori's hands.
She's a great woman besides that, just needs some guiding and not mingle with weird people.

we lost unicorn bros..... this is the normal now
Come back to /jp/

>>33611115
>about 800 a stream
which is a massive downward trend to her early gains
like yeah its not surprising that it would mellow out considering what kind of absolute monsters the early ENs were but not to this extent

>>33604887
He earned the most in supas last month of course they fucking do

>>33613119
What the fuck are you talking about? Being in actual love with someone never stopped any normal human from fighting with and then leaving someone.

>>33614192
Man, I miss RPG sundays.

>>33614478
What? Gachikois come in different flavour. Unicorn is part of gachikois. Shunning unicorns doesn't mean she's shunning all of her gachikois, and she can still pander to her other gachikois by doing something else.
Ame and Mori, for example, have a lot of gachikois who love their personality and journey of content creation. Suisei and FBK too. What's hard to understand?

>>33616432
>YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT GACHIKOI THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS ONE
>No they're not
>WELL GACHIKOI ACT DIFFERENT WAYS
No shit idiot

Poor Clockbeats.

>>33614192
God I miss Mori when she used the fake cute voice in the early days. Now I just ignore her.

>>33603452
It doesn't matter how much you argue on EN boards about unicorns and parasocial or whatever, it's not going to go away in Japan or the JP branches of the studios you watch because tons of Japanese dudes are lonely salarymen looking to throw money at their anime waifu

>>33613161
Hololive isn't being destroyed because most of the Japanese fanbase doesn't give a shit.
There are plenty of JPs who watch the ENs (mainly people like Mori or Kiara in the past, not sure about now), and the JP Hololive side has been untouched by this stuff, because it's a totally different culture in general.

>>33616533
I genuinely don't understand what you're saying.
I was just saying a lot of her gachikois won't go away and will still keep membering and SC-ing as long as she's happy. It's what happens with Ame and Mori. Well, the latter might not mean much, but Ame is Ame.

>>33617158
Knowing westurd fandom, their latest victory will embolden them to start spreading rrats about how problematic some JP stances on male collabs

>>33617358
Yeah, and it will do basically nothing in JP.
In general, Japan does not give a FUCK about what outside sources have to say about their otaku culture shit. Look at 90% of coomer gachas they produce, or the sheer amount of lolishit, or even the recent cyberpunk "controversy"
The JP company just doesn't give a shit, cause they do what Japan likes. most of HoloJP isn't going to start pandering to EN fans in that way, especially if they saw what happened to Rushia or when Towa had a male voice for .1 second on a stream, they know most kaigainiki can't speak a word of Japanese and aren't going to stick around long because of it

>>33617358
It will. That's the worst (best) part.
It's a battle of two extremes, in which the JPs won't actually give a fuck. They know what they're doing.
HoloEN talents though? Start turning off social media like Gura. People will associate Holofans whose oshi pander to unicorns as mentally unstable control freaks and that will refrain people to check them out. A win for people who want comfy streams without newfags, but don't expect any significant growth.

>>33603452
Same thing happens after any big jab that breaks containment
Mori were also rewarded with a massive payday after her cuck jab
But those paypigs quickly drops off, because they dont actually care, they just want to prove a point

>>33617646
>People will associate Holofans whose oshi pander to unicorns as mentally unstable control freaks
Or, just like how porn games become wildly popular on steam, people who like anime waifu experience will flock to them.

>>33606476
Because if your oshi's in Hololive most of her income is from a salary. Superchats and memberships are a slight bonus considering the size of cover's and YouTube's cuts and the number of holomems who can bag a major endorsement deal on their own is pretty small. Merch and record sales are potentially a bigger source of income than spachas but their core income is still a salary.

>>33606779
It doesn't matter who they put on the noodles because the deal is between cover and whomever with the streamer getting a cut, not between the chuuba and an outside corpo. All council, myth, fantasy, whatever id's called, or anyone else has to do is maintain visibility. As long as they're recognizable as cover corp talents they're doing their jobs.

>>33603452
The exact same thing happens whenever any chuuba does some bold anti-parasocial thing.

A bunch of fair-weather YAS QUEEN donations come in. Then those same people move on to the next thing to be outraged about instead of sticking around.

It's a temporary boost meant to "stick it to those incel losers".

>>33619942
Is that initial, fairweather as you say, surge embolden mikecat or whatever the fuck she's called now to make decisions that she's now regretting now?
Because as I understand it that twitter/reddit swell as subsided and what's left is a skeleton crew lol

>>33619074
Talents have already talked about how sponsors actually make demands about who they want promoting their products.

>>33620479
Forget about michael cat, just look at mano aloe. Twittards and reddit saviourfags had been going hard about shitting on cover and wanting to support manure aloe and make her big to own le evil corpo. So what happened next? Well just look at delutaya's current state.

>>33618660
People who like anime waifu experience also go to other corps who don't have drama, or to indies. You're sharing your cake on top of being hit left and right by dramafags outside and your colleagues not doing what you're preaching.
Best way is to jusy shut social media off and stay on your lane.

>>33620479
Nazuna is doing just fine and is in the top 2% of Twitch streamers

It's the fickle EN fans, they show they'll care for day then tomorrow they won't bother.

>>33621333
Anon, you do know that Nazuna is almost entirely supported by her Gachikoi and literally pander to them hard-core now? I don't know how you people use her to make a point when she's literally the worst example, especially since she's not stopped pandering to her Gachikoi from since she was terminated.

>>33603452
Post her SCs from three months from now when she’s reclined after the homotourists lost interest in supporting her. Do it faggot.

>>33607564
>numbrain fags
lol
>>33607072
Finana tanked herself because she is a retarded Tumblrcunt.

>>33603452
>pity supas and memberships
Let me tell you about a whore named reimu....