/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>2ch
lol
lmao

>>33554721
ok? who cares what japanese people think.

>>33554721
StarsJP shouldn’t get dragged into this. This debacle is 100% on Tempus.

>>33554721
KEKED

>>33554721
kronii is so retarded
what tf are managers doing?

>>33554721
Based

>>33554721
>Seriously Nijisanji 2.0
LMAO

>>33554837
Same, this fucking bs are all them and not JP stars

>>33554721
fucking BASED
Only faggots and trannies support holoEN now, time for the destruction of this shitty side branch

>>33554721
>Fauna and Irys
They're just going to let Gura and Kiara drown?

813 know his shit

>>33554721
2ch considered Hololive over when Fubuki collab with a male in 2019.

>>33554817
It's a win because it will finally reach Cover's JP management

>2ch
call me when 5ch cares

>>33554721
>bees nest has been kicked
It's over homofags

japanese people are idiots, that's why we like their women so much

>>33554898
>what tf are managers doing?
They're normalfags pushing it hard to "own" the incel. What did you expect when one of them don't even know who Miku is?

>Nijisanji 2.0
awesome, Nijisanji is now obsolete

Gura and Fauna should become JP holos. Ina, Mumei, IRyS and Kiara can come too if they behave.

>2ch
Fucking newfags i swear to god

>HoloEN got the attention of the biggest schizos of the Japanese internet
ALL OUT WAR

>>33554721
what an elaborate coverup for PEKORA MONKEY

>>33554837
ALL OUT WAR, SHART

Iry and fauna to JP LMAO!

>>33555062
Well they need to speedrun their language reps then

>>33555052
>What did you expect when one of them don't even know who Miku is?
wtf did cover hire literal american boomers?

>>33554898
Giving them freedom. No, I'm not meme-ing. This is why freedom isn't always good.

>>33554721
Considering Japan brought vtubing into the limelight to begin with I'd take what they have to say seriously. It's literally their thing and if they think the West is fucking up that's probably not far off from the truth.

>>33554837
Are you fucking kidding tempus hasn’t done shit it’s been the en girls who have been milking this drama

she's a tainted now, there's no coming back from this only graduation

>>33555063
Nijifemales and Tempus should stream together. NijiEn males are boring fags and HoloEN are boring cunts that don't stream.

>>33555063
was this Yagoo master plan all along? now all he needs is to find males a large amount of people actually want to watch

What's wrong with choosing who you want to collab with? Why is it even an issue in the first place?

>>33555159
tempiss could have refused every collab

>they are literally gatekeeping now
Yeah how?

>>33554721
>2ch
>gatekeeping
Gatekeeping what, exactly?
A cherry-picked collage of alleged translations ain't exactly valuable proof of anything either.

>>33554898
They're poking Kanauru with a molten branding iron to continue making 90% of HoloEN's 3D content for them. No time for asinine shit like one of your employees pissing off the fans to the point where a statement was warranted.

>>33555159
>tempus didn't do anything wrong
>chose to audition
>chose to speak about having romantic interest coworkers
>chose to collab with them
Cope

Good. Protect the JPs 2ch. They are all we have left.

>>33555159
EN girls like ame and kronii are retarded so you can't blame them. Tempus guys should have realized hololive's social dynamics instead of leeching the girls

>>33555195
Go back

>>33554898
What are you expecting? If even HoloJP doesn't have an actual ban on male collabs, there is 0 chance HoloEN will, lmao.

>>33555195
Why have management at all? Just let the whole thing turn into png twitchthots

2ch are a bunch of virgins

>>33555195
Kronii didn't set her boundaries properly and she allowed schizos to fester, if she had done it like Bae did from day one, everything would be fine today

oh no its soooo horrible the JP would never do anything like that

>>33554721
>pretty much ended any possibility of all Tempus members to conquer a JP fanbase.
speak for yourself, there are JP people rallying around Axel because he's the only one who speaks Japanese

Why should they care about the other three?

>>33555272
>chose to speak about having romantic interest coworkers
Yeah but she isn't one of the talents so who the fuck cares.

Where is zhang? This is perfect opportunity to destroy hololive

tempus needs to go

>>33555159
This whole collab shit is tanking their numbers lol, the girls are really makings people hate them.
Vesper is a funny autist but he is also a fucking idiot.

>>33554721
>2ch
we're 4ch, twice more than 2ch
even numberfags understand 4 is more than 2
kek, this dumb dumb

i'm here but i only hate coco
fuck that bitch

>>33555288
>2ch
>Protecting HoloJP
oh the naivety

>>33554721
the kronii situation is fucking retarded for obvious reasons but caring about what autistic japs think is even more retarded

>>33555315
The guy who burned down KyoAni was also a virgin

>>33555195
Hololive unarguably grew basically 100% of its fame off the cute girls feeling. Literally by definition you cannot have a cute girls experience with boys in it. That's a mixed/co-ed experience. It's pretty fucking simple. EN management is bending over backwards to shoot itself in the foot and make shit harder than it needs to be.

They could have just not had Tempus and had a regular girls EN3 and I guarantee you EN would have been revitalized. Instead Tempus are sitting pretty as 3views despite all this collab shit and associated notoriety and the ENs being the most forceful and shitty about this are already sinking mysteriously in CCV, just mysterious coincidence by spooky ghosts surely right.

Even if/when they go have a proper EN3, just the question of "which ones are gonna be mori 2.0s/3.0s and which ones are going to actually try to be a real Holo in the JP vein" has pre-emptively ruined them. Some of them will be fucking hated right out the gate unnecessarily if not most of them. Shit's fucked. Omega's incompetent to the core.

>>33555296
and who are you to tell them what to do? You don't watch them.

where are bilibili bros when we need them

>>33555431
I'm a big guy

>>33554721
ogey

>>33555351
It's about the fucking principle, never mention you want to bone anyone on fucking stream

>>33554721
>niji 2.0
Well they are right. Cover was fucking stupid to put out that statement.

>>33554721
The west only can destroy but never build anything, like the orange man say " what EN touch is just to become shit" was always right, anon

>>33555426
Hololive grew in 2019 and 2020, with Fubuki as the biggest Holo.
Fubuki collabed with males during that period.

>>33555138
IRyS is already half a JP, might as well. Watame's other EN harem member (Fauna) can come, too

>>33555195
She was from the start playing a sort of hard to get, slightly crazy and moody gf.
She didn't go the "just friends" way like Bae, Ollie, FBK, etc. Even Mori, who got a hard time over collabing with males, had never marketed herself as a "gf" type.
So she cultivated unicorns, many of them and is now telling them all to fuck off.

ALL OUT WAR PART 2

>>33555426
They let kronii tweet that shit lol

>>33555302
NTA, but I am expecting them not to pour oil into the fire. All Kronii had to do was to shut up. And now, after she made numerous idiotic comments, management adds to it too.

>>33555573
And look how that halted her growth, to the point Gura beat her to 1mil milestone

I bet Coco feels real stupid for graduating right about now considering EN has full talent freedom.

>>33554721
Teste

>>33555573
Fubuki also had her biggest growth/fame period before she started forcing males and got shit on hard in Japan for it. Gen 3 took over as the growth engine of Holo and guess what, that was the first truly idol/cabaret club type gen and the model stuck.

>>33555195
Mentally ill fags think the snake woman will date them.

>>33555573
Cool, but it's now 2022. FBK has been a mid-tier Holo since, well, ages ago with a few exception (like during her Pokemon arc).

>>33555426
if that's true, then why does HolostarsJP exist? Why is this a problem for Tempus but not them?

Oh wait I get it, it's because they're Japanese. They know their place, they've never openly collabed with the girls and all that jazz.

You'd have to coping so hard to actually believe that.

>>33555431
>it’s not their fault!
>they can do whatever they want
>but they can’t refuse a collab request...
>pfft, so what if it is their fault, you don’t even watch them
And you wonder why people treat you antagonistically.

>>33555573
More than that, in response to the backlash she got, Fubuki's 2020 valentines day audio was her making a male voice and taking out the viewer (girl) into a date. Imagine if Kronii did this, lmao.
Fubuki continues to be the most based Holo

>>33555426
>They could have just not had Tempus and had a regular girls EN3 and I guarantee you EN would have been revitalized.
insane cope lol stopped reading here

>>33555484
I can also lie and say I'm a big guy.

>>33555426
Omega being a retard is nothing new, but let's not pretend that EN3 would be the second coming of Christ for the EN branch. The same shit was said about EN2 and we can all see how that's turning out with or without Tempus.
EN is what it is because of when they hit the market, and now that the market has changed, nothing will recapture whatever illusion you're still clinging to. Again, with or without Tempus.

>>33555370
Unlike women, the guys can actually handle people hating them and expected it. I doubt they really care about people hate superchatting them $5 in poorfag currencies.

>>33555210
>>33555272
>>33555296
>NOOO FEMALES ARE NEVER WRONG IT'S ALWAYS THE MALE'S FAULT!
You sound like a twitter fag

>>33555630
Yeah I bet she does, considering her current situation, I have no doubt that she does.

>>33554721
>No more unishits
>No more 2chanfags
It's like Christmas

>>33555573
Fubuki started collabing in 2020.
It coincided with a significant drop from the top
You can blame on it on spamming animal crossing and avoiding the main minecraft server if you want, but there was a clrrelation.

>>33555673
If you exclude Fubuki, literally the only JP to spam stars collabs, I think starsJP has had less interactions with holoJP over the last year (maybe even last two years) than tempus has in one fucking month. it's not the same at fucking all.

Are we living the final yab?

>>33555052
>They're normalfags pushing it hard to "own" the incel.
The whole dramas start from there, it's a typical EN thing. I don't understand why anyone thought bringing idol culture to the West would actually work. There's a reason why JP have *idols* while EN have *vshojos*

>>33555860
Yes, and it's glorious
I hope Omegaytroon gets fired and has to eat pagpag for the rest of his life

>>33555700
I don't care who the boys collab with. They can refuse but they don't have to, if it's an opportunity to show some of the fans what they can do then they're going to take that chance.

I'm not like the Tempus defenders that go:
>b-but it's not their fault
I really give no shits. If my boys have fun doing it that's good enough for me.

>>33554721
Discount Niji

>>33555860
I wasn’t certain about it until Cover’s statement, but now I am, so yes.

>>33555860
The final yab isn't real

>>33555645
>>33555663
>Muh GEN3
So... we are just rewriting history then? The argument here was that JP wasn't this, when in fact it was and still is for the earlier gens. There is also the argument that what fucked Fubuki's growth was her making a stance against the chinks for the sake of Coco, but neither you nor I will have proof of what caused Fubuki to stagnate.
Gen 3 isn't all gens, if people are fine not aiming to be the biggest gachi milker, it is fine. As the Cover twitter said, talents have the right to decide their branding and if they will be the type who collab with males or not.

>>33555573
Fubuki was memed for a good anount of time as the ARS beggar, guess when that was? And guess when that stopped?

>>33555625
Gura only grew so fast bc of her tiktok song and her pedo fans. She also beat Korone and you're not mentioning her because it doesn't prove your point.

>>33554721
Yes! Gatekeep them out!!!
They're not allowed in the JP Paradise!

>>33555968
This doesn't change the fact that Pekora is the top HoloJP and Fubuki is an irreverent bitch, homobeggar

>>33555195
allowing women the right to make her own choices has literally never had a positive effect, women were one of the main proponents of Prohibition and look how well that turned out

>>33554997
So why are they complaining now?

>>33554721
I'm all for gatekeeping but when your hobby hits the mainstream it's hard.

>>33555426
okay

>>33555996
Korone rocketed up the positions fast doing pure cute girls content however. So did Peko and Marine who both outright have said they don't and won't collab with males, Marine specifically says she considers her fans' feelings on the matter and so on. You'd think "please your fans and they'll be happy" is basic common sense but a lot of ENs are apparently like "fuck the fans, I don't care if I upset them they can fuck off." which if you read this thread's OP is literally the first and prime beef JP commenters have about it. that's just a fucking shit attitude to have, pure dogshit.

>>33556150
>Its ok to gatekeep the poison out
>They can reopen as soon as the poison wears down

>>33555774
She seems fine where she is, but zhangs aside all she had to do was tough it out until now and she could just point at the EN management statement and say "Okay I want to do whatever I want, I've been with Hololive way longer than Kronii" since seniority is the most important thing to JP.