/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33552317
Saving it for Kronii's impending graduation

>>33552317
they couldnt even find one entertaining person for en2 give them a break

>>33552317
If cover was smart, they should be announced this friday to get everyone's minds off of the kronii drama

>>33552317
over a year and the number of members has only decreased...what exactly are they waiting for?

Let's just get JP7 or ID4 instead.

>>33552317
The pure EN3s probably saw the male drama which wasn't what they initially signed up for months back. This probably caused one or two of them to back out and this fucked everything up.

>>33552411
>to get everyone's minds off
The Blizzard strat. Could work, but it would require actually decent talents.

>>33552317
It needs to happen asap at this rate. Distraction from the disaster that is HoloCouncil.

>>33552317
fuck up already nigger. we got en3 its tempus

>>33552317
If I had to bet, I'd guess they're waiting until next months so all the anniversaries aren't too close together so they can maximize income.

>>33552501
When people are talking about EN3 they are talking about HoloEN not HomoEN, stop pretending to be retarded

>>33552317
Absolutely not happening this month.

>>33552501
Using that retarded logic. Holostars gen 1 is JP gen 3.
Guess what. Nobody calls them that.

>>33552317
Can't wait for the next twitch normalfag clout chasers who openly declare their love for homos and ecelebs, very cool.

>>33552411
wasn't there a rrat that a new gen will come each time there's a graduation/termination for holo?

>>33552317
Hololive isn't Nijisanji where they release waves every other month. Wait like the good little shit that you are.

>>33552377
>EN3 + kronii graduating

dreams really do come true

>>33552317
ready and willing to drop myth except for gura and kiara and drop council except for mumei and fauna. en3 will absolutely have some collab with males and be on board the mori/ame/kronii sabotage, but hopefully one will not

>>33552317
Good.

Well you're hyping it up a lot to build anticipation. Probably because you're a manager. So I expect it will be announced soon. Probably after NijiFes in a few weeks.

Don't worry she will save HoloEN once EN3 comes in February.

>>33552317
Who cares at this point? They all gonna be tempiss cocksuckers anyway.

Yeah I sure want more cocksleeves that hate their main audience

We need actual whores in this whorehouse, so drop HolowhoresEN already and let me get my membership for her joi and ear blowjob content

the combined power of niji and holo combined has managed to find, at best, two non-whores in the west

>>33552453
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when ID4 turning out to be a golden gen again like ID3 and bury EN3 into irrelevancy, kind of like JP4 after JP3.

>EN3 will see Tempus as their senpais
It's fucking over, they'll be even worse than the current whores, they failed to keep the homos segregated and now there's no turning back anymore

i'm in EN3 and i'm going to force pekora into listening to emmure and there's nothing you can do about it

>>33552317
Same with HoloID Gen 4 audition

>>33552587
>>33552624
in the eyes of cover tempus IS en3. they fulfilled their new talent quota this year so enjoy your homos and look forward to your girls in july of next year!

>>33552317
Thanks Kronii! We all needed more drama

>>33553195
$20 says they are hololive antis, shit talk idols on stream, and won't be able to name a single JP member.

>>33552317
Why wanna get more garbage? Just enjoy the one burning right now lol

i wonder who will graduate next July

Gen3 will have a corpo hetero ship with one of the Stars like Niji. Mark my words.

>>33552704
It's been over a year

>>33552317
Honestly, at this point I hope it doesn't.
I can't take any more dissappointment from EN talents. I'm sure all the new girls in EN3 will just end up collabing with Holostars.

Not counting the stuff that happened years ago, only about 5 out of the 35 JP talent collab with males and of them only two do it regularly.
Meanwhile, 5 out of the 10 EN members have collabed with males in the last year and of them, 4 are going to be doing it regularly from now on.

So I've completely lost all excitement for any news of EN3. I almost just want EN to fade away at this point.

>>33552317
Council didn't print money, HomoEN didn't print money. Whether this delays or hastens EN3 is a mystery. But given how retarded EN management is probably the dumber option.

>>33552317
MENS were our new holomems for this year.
Gen 3 if will happen, will be in 2023.

>>33553789
Nah, Gen 3 will likely be like gen 1 or 2 of JP, with some being okay with male collabs and others avoiding it, but Cover would never push for a hetero pairing

HoloEN 3 would be full of whores that would interact with Tempus.


Just give me HoloES, were all of them are christian girls

>>33552501
Homos will never be Hololive, Omega. Now bend over.

>>33553188
I wouldn't mind that at all.

EN3 predictions

>1 girl who doesn't care about vtubing at all
and is just using holo as a way to boost her RM career
>1 girl who has no personality other
>1 girl who complains about idol culture and tweets about parasocial fucks constantly
>1 girl who would be happier in vshojo and streaming on twitch but applied for just for fun and got in

and maybe one girl who is actually entertaining and wants to be in hololive, but maybe i'm being too optimistic here

>>33554111
I want an EN Koyori. 1 Koyori and 4 duds is fine.

>>33554011
Anon, the biggest anti-male girls on the JP side are lesbians. Miko being the most blatant.
If they are christians, they are not gay, if they are not gay, they are into men.

>>33552317
There has to be an in-between of Nijis strategy of shitting out a new wave every 8 weeks and Holos putting out a new gen every 14+ months

slav based holo or holoen is doomed

>>33552317
At this point I'd rather it didn't happen?
> Another Mori who hates her fans and drinks like an addict.
> Another Kronii with depression who rides dick everyday to feel something.
> Another Sana that breaks her back.
> Another Kiara/Bae annoying voice.
> Only one of them will be a promising talent but will be dragged down by crab bucket Mori and her brainless worm followers.

>>33552317

>>33552317
You know that you'll get 5 tempus's dick riders because of this sockpuppet right?

>>33555427
>Polish trying to be based when they are going against Russia, the only saviour against globohomo

>>33557570
Vatniks fuck off. The only thing Russia can manage to do is kidnap and murder little kids, they suck at everything else. You aren't wanted here or anywhere else.

It's pointless
They're just gonna be a bunch of normie whores anyway

>>33552317
Most likely happening in October desu. Both Fauna and Ina have hinted at things happening then

>>33552474
It wouldn't. Holobronies will eat up anything, that's how Kronii is where she is right now. It's how Council got lazy which caused the entire branch to get lazy.

You're getting 5 more girls that'll go hard for about a month and then settle into cushy 3-day work schedules with no consequence.

>>33560135
With EN, it’s fear or famine with them. We get a day where we have like 0-2 streams and others where it’s like 7 streams, with very little in between. Plus, with Sana, IRyS, and Gura, they know there is no stream minimum

>>33552317
Probably for the better. At this point Omega will make sure only girls who answer yes to "will you collab with the stars too?" will be hired for EN3

>>33552317
They had to fire the entire gen and start over after the male collab shit started

I think today's statement was in advance of a new gen. Just wait.

>>33552317
It’s for the best anon. They’ll be part of this current bullshit from the very start, it’s just not worth getting excited. EN is done. Move on.

>>33552317
By Allah (pbuh) we'll have no EN gens one day.

You just know HoloEN3 will collab with Tempus one week earlier than their Holo senpais because Tempus get priority. This way they also cut the univorn problem in the bud.

Oh and they will do worse on numbers than Myth and Council.

>>33553927
How the times have changed. It feels like yesterday when I was excited for the new gen. Now I feel just big emptiness.

>>33562327
Is there any long-term alternative for English speakers? I don't mean indies who come and go, but a company with a solid long-term vision that is free from Westen politics, and girls that follow that vision. Something like Hololive JP.

>>33552317
Another week and still no signs that EN would be beneficial in any way to the current situation.
Anon, you're getting another Council or worse.

>>33552317
what signs do you expect ? smoke over the Vatican ?

if you're reading, if you will collab with males just say it in your debut stream so we won't get our hopes up and there won't be any drama

EN3 needs to be a group of nothing but lesbians
Unironic lesbians.
They should also pair up and have kissing sex on stream so we know they're lesbians.

Anything less and I refuse to watch them.

>>33554011
>Just give me HoloES
AYY, do you think these pretty scrabbles are yab workly? If cover ever do a holoes we wil see real yabs weekly at very least

>>33552317
>Tempus was EN3 all along
>They really wasted time and resources to push male holo
>Hide behind girls as per usual
EN MANAGEMENT HATE

>>33565721
This really should be a thing.

>>33565721
>>33568501
That would mean an even numbered of members. 4? 6? 2?

only balkans can save hololive

>HoloEN is doing bad
>j-just shit out more gens!
I thought accelerating was bad?

>>33567865
Anglo women are the biggest whores and bitches

>>33552317
Time traveler here, I need to be quick before they find me. Here's the gist of what happens:
>cover finally realizes how much they're fucking up with starsEN and all the drama that started thanks to that branch
>mass graduates the entire branch like they did it for holoCN
>releases holoEN 3 shortly after to try containing the butthurt
If this doesn't turn out to be what happens, it means this timeline may have been tampered with. Be VERY caref

>>33552317
It’s called tempus. You are waiting for en 4

>>33552377
Council losing another member, this time as a result of male collabs would honestly set the precedent that they're bad news.
I doubt the boys would want to endanger any of the other girls if their collab was one of the driving contributions to her getting the boot

Why do ppl believe that EN3 will solve everything?

>>33570836
Imagine everywhere if that happened.

>>33552624
Actually no. Holostars Jp was launched as a whole separate thing unlike tempus. Like not acknowledging the girls existed at first despite all the irrational hate they got.

>>33570956
She'd be a martyr but it'd ultimately put us back on the right path

>>33552317
Omegatranny really wants you to accept that Tempus is EN3 even if they don't even scrap the amount of popularity of a new female only gen

>>33571780
I do wonder how well a new female EN gen would do right now. With Council and IRyS becoming nearly stagnant growth wise for nearly a year, I wonder if any would realistically break 600k subs after a month.

>>33572462
They better have someone capable of being a Kobo-tier breakout hit. Otherwise EN3 is most likely going in very direct competition with NijiEN in numbers and, with the way management is encouraging unicorn purges, niche.

>>33572462
Well Kobo happened there's always miracles

>>33572462
Someone good at ASMR would be nice.

>>33552317
Thank god

>>33570956
It would irreparably damage Council but it would stop the Tempus shilling and male collabs for good. Luckily for unicorns and idolfags Tempus would be dead from the fallout and management would scrap any plans for StarsEN2 after such a fiasco. Not to mention the Hall Of Anal Devastation such a graduation would cause. The catalog would be filled for months with twitter screencaps and drama threads.

>>33575391
>this isn't the current timeline
FUCK

>>33552317
Honestly speaking tempus in partnership with Kronia destroyed all remaining interest in HoloEN, Covid era is over, there are a lot of new indies, this is such a debuff for the new HoloEN3 girls that a Gura type miracle would have to happen for this generation to make sense

EN3 will get groomed by Tempus, your hopes are in vain, unicorns.

>>33552317
Who would join, realisticly? Currently EN is in the midst of the Great Troubles where any girls who joins hololive en would have to decide whether they're going to collab with the guys or not, and if not deal with the CONSTANT stream of people begging for them to and even accusing them of enableing unicorns and parasocials or being something-ist if they don't, which would be draining as fuck, and anyone who joins Stars en 2 would have to deal with people begging for them to collab with the girls and generally getting in the way of allowing them to be their own thing.
Anyone who wants to join and be an actual entertainer with standards and not some drama bitch would be surrounded by an envirment practically made out of gunpowder, and have to selectively avoid all of the numerous landmine women and men if they ever want to do a collab because they'll inevitably drag you into some shitty drama and generally just exhaust you. Not to mention the women who're being less insane than the rest wouldn't associate with the guys, so if you join Stars EN 2 you'll have the sane ones avoid you like the plauge. The only people who'll join now are people who are into drama so wouldn't mind the constant highschool level drama you'll be going through, of which by the way there is almost certainly more behind the scenes judging from Mori's suspicious comments on the subject, or people who are after the money so don't care what they have to pu up with to get it. Literally not one person who's serious about being any form of entertainer would want to be associated with EN at this point, and it's only getting worse the longer things go on. If gen 3 feeds into it and makes it worse it'll become a permanent death spiral as well.

>>33572744
We've got ASMR at council.

>>33576671
Yeah at this point I've lost all confidence in EN management and fanbase.

>>33552317
Because it's not happening.
Council was a total failure. They recently modified the audition notes because they don't want any more Sanas auditioning which is a good indication that they don't have a new gen in the works yet. Might just give up on them and focus on StarsEN.

>>33552317
EN3 was Tempus. This is a mixed branch now.

>>33570836
>>33575391
>>33552377
By my calculations, her graduation will affect the shape of the battle for male collabs minimally, if at all. The Homobeggar and EN managements aggression will outlive Kronii. Indeed, they'll try to get even more collabs as a tribute to her memory. Given a year, they'd have her deified - but by then Hololive Gachikois will be breaking down, riven by internal conflicts, a monster consuming itself.

>>33552317
What's the point of EN3 now that Tempiss exists? HoloEN is ruined forever.

Would make sense for EN3 to debut in early October, then end the collab ban right before Halloween so they can join in on the festivities.

>>33575511
Anon, don't let your dreams be dreams. Make the timeline you want to be in. GRADUATE KRONII

>>33552317
Why do you want EN3 so badly?

>>33577621
Tempus are in HOLOSTARS English

>>33552317
With the current state of indies you do not want this

>>33578028
>the current state of indies
?

>>33572692
>They better have someone capable of being a Kobo-tier breakout hit.
So, what you're saying is, we need another loli?

I hope EN3 is 5 lolis to make up for the shit gen that council was

>>33578473
Wish granted. They're all lolis who go on twitter rants calling lolicons pedos and that they're just using "small" models so improve yourself and never call them something so ignorant again

>>33578473
Why does it matter? They’ll collab with homos anyways.

>>33578596
Nothing that rape correction can’t solve

>>33578596
>all mesugakis/kusogakis
who I need to kill?

>>33578473
based cunnychad

>>33552317
I thought HoloEN wasn't like NijiEN? Shouldn't Cover focus on supporting the current talent instead of rushing out a new generation? EN3 can wait.

>>33570836
If she keeps getting the critical comments on twitter, youtube comments under her videos, and in membership post comments where it'll really hit hard, it can happen. If you keep at it and don't let up, you would actually be able to make some change. Look at Finana as a perfect example: she got hounded left and right about the whole trap fiasco and walked back her words and corrected herself. Believe it or not, they do see what people say. Twitter may be a lost cause but before you end your membership, let her know how you feel in order to make some real change. It starts with you.

>>33579208
At this point the only "support" en deserves is hair trigger suspensions and someone on call at all hours of the day to call them out as retarded whores whenever they think of saying something stupid.

>>33579598
I'm not a Kronie, I don't hate her either but at this point her sacrifice would be necessary for the long term health of Hololives core values.
Its nothing personal Kronii, its just business. Think of the bigger picture

>>33579208
>focus on supporting the current talent
I agree but there has to be a compromise
+1year
-1member
is a bit ridiculous

>>33579598
Specifically, be insulting. Be so toxic that it destroys her self righteous and entitled attitude. She won't change so the best thing you can do is make her go full menhera until she stops streaming for months on end due to "back surgeries" and "dead dogs". Sometimes she'll come back, shit on that too, never give her a break and eventually she'll give up. Her ego is too big and fragile to take real hate. Eventually she'll leave and even if you seem like the bad guys to twittertroons, that would be the definitive end of the homobeggar bullshit

>>33580151
I swore long ago that I'd never perform anti activities but I see now that to keep the status quo intact in Hololives culture. I must become that which I hate.

>>33552317
tempus killed the hype
blame pink and yellow cunts

>>33552317
good

stop adding new members. fuck off

>>33581570
based villain story