/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33537412
lol no

>>33537412
i hate twitter so much its unreal

>>33537412
and donate of course

>>33537412
>twitterfags
>doing something outside of twitter
There’s a higher chance of anons touching grass

>>33537412
The clips will get a lot of views

>>33537412
twitterfags dont watch streams

>>33537412
>clipwatchers and twitter troons
>watch streams
There's a reason the biggest vtuber in the world barely uses twitter.

>>33537412
for a month, yes. dunno after that though

>>33537412
hell yeah, if they all red supah her she could even afford her own bull.

twitter and reddit retards will watch every clip and like it to show support

>>33537657
she's not the biggest by any metric 2020bro

Nah, twitter likes don't mean crap. Ina being a huge example of that when her back was the highest trending at 100k for her art tag but you saw none of that reflected in views in the streams that followed.

>>33537412
They will subscribe to her channel, buy her merch and watch her clips
#believe #talentfreedom #Ouro_Kronii #Collab

>>33537412
>>33535709

>>33537412
Remember when that Mumei/stars collab was announced and the reddit post had 5 times more upvotes than all viewpoints combined?
Yeah....

>>33537771
Didn't Fauna actually get a boost from her CowFauna stuff? Granted she played into it and even had a cow outfit prop.

Of course they will watch kronii in solidarity, unicorn is like a russian bully and kronii is a helpless virgin ukraine getting molested by unicorn fascist

Slava Ukroninii
Heroyam Slava

Pump and Dump!

>>33537412
It's not like she cares about numbers

kronii streams at 4 am

>>33537412
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>33537412
>22K
Wow that's almost Gura ccv, Lets see how it go

>>33537412
half of those "people" probably don't even have youtube account.

>>33537412
I didn't see anyone in the comets with an hourglass

>>33537867
Kek i will put a “hourglass” in my username beside my ukraine/LGBT flag

>>33537867
but who is Putler?

>>33537412
I don't hate Kronii and unlike most retards on /vt/, have 0 problems with her collabing with males. It's just that between her misandry and this, it's so hard to like her. I don't hate her, but I don't like her either despite all the tools being there for her to be bigger than Gura if I'm being totally honest.
What she also doesn't realize is that the people who gave her the tools to be successful are conservative as fuck and weeb as fuck. Classic case of biting the hand that feeds you; I know teenagers being liberals are inevitable, but if you're an adult and you're still a liberal? You're either privileged as fuck or a manchild.
Let me reiterate: I don't hate Kronii. But I don't love her either, because of how she behaves. I know she doesn't need me to like her, I'm just saying that she would be bigger if she didn't pull this stupid stuff. She's free to graduate like Coco did if she feels boxed in at any time, let's see her survive without the Hololive brand.

The luxiem boys literally mog every other vtuber other than the Niji JP boys with Twitter likes but still lose to holoEN and JP in viewership. Dream gets 300-400k likes on his tweets but gets less viewers on his streams than xqc does. Twitter likes don't translate to live viewers.

>>33538123
It must be this Unicorn dude, grrrr i hate this unicorn dude, he is worse than putler

why wouldn't I like her post, I was almost bored but she made another banger content to consoom

>>33537867
So unicorns are going to be the 2nd biggest donating group?

>>33537856
To be honest she didn't get a boost maybe the first week

>>33538057
It's funny how a lot of people praising her have fucking NijiEN profile pictures.

>>33537412
Save this anon for the future shitpost

Kronii will get a boost for couple streams but then they'll all fuck off back to their clip channels and meme twitter accounts

>>33538317
>NijiEN profile pictures
They know that a Holo collab will boost their 3views Niji.

>>33538295
Unicorn is getting sanctioned as we speak, putlercorn is getting btfoed

>>33538317
and/or trans flags, pronouns etc

>>33537657
>/vt/ schizos of all people blaming others of not watching streams
Kek, good one nigger

>>33538501
>Unicorn is getting sanctioned as we speak
So they're going to superchat Ukroninii a lot

>>33538640
Yes the we hate idol culture will be a far more reliable base of support.

>>33537412
Why is she trending in my country? YOU FAGGOTS ARE TOO POOR TO EVEN GIVE HER SUPERCHATS.
Fuck Philippine twitter, they're all wannabe Californians but without the cash. Flip /vt/ denizens buy more merch than the 2000 Peenoise talking about Kronii.

>>33537412
nah their retarded attention span only lasts a 2-3 weeks at most, unless there's more drama to go on

>>33537412
Extremely based and a common Kronii W
Seethe and cope

>>33538848
kek, fucking this. Most of them are poorfags from SEA. Good luck to Kronii, please enjoy your new flip and indog viewers.

>>33537412
lol
lmao even

>>33537412
Yes, I will watch her VOD to support her. If she gets more than 22k VOD views for her next stream that means us homobeggars won.

>>33538848
how pinoy twitter trending is always kpop.
also fuck this country you guys need more loose women in school.

>>33537412
For the first stream, yeah. Remember the "Terraria WITH MY FRIENDS!!!" Mori stream after her big fuckup? Massive swarm of redditors that werent even membered. She got 10k USD that stream. THAT was the nail in the coffin for the whole "owning le haters" mindset. We'll see how Kronii reacts to the wave of "support"

>>33538317
lel

>>33537412
Another cope thread? how many unicorns she losing? it exceed 22k? no? LMAO

Why do people keep saying Kronii lied?
Not in this thread but it was in a previous thread that archived before I could ask

>>33539539
She said she wouldn't engage with homos before the break.

>>33539171
Kek

>>33537412
As a day one kronie who isn't a unicorn and is loving their seething, hell no lol

>>33537515
Why is it every site that starts with a "T" seems to do immeasurable damage to society as a whole
>tumblr
>twitter
>tiktok
At this point I'm developing a vendetta against a letter of the alphabet

>>33539600
Where? I figured that was it but I can't find her saying anything like that.

>>33539171
the legendary nijiSEAhomobeggar exists

>>33539539
Her audience pressured her to say she wouldn't collab with men even though she clearly didn't want to agree to that. Now they are mad that pressuring someone into something can result in them going back on it. Keep in mind this was after she had already collabed with Tempus and said it because people were harassing her about it.

>>33539756
last members stream

>>33537619
I touch grass everytime I go for smoke break

>>33539792
Sounds legit

>>33539681
hey man twinkies ruined my body but not my soul

lmao /vt/ btfo again

>>33539780
This anon has never worked a job in his life. Pressure is part of work. Saying that her audience, the ones who watch her regularly, donate to her regularly, and supported her from the beginning, are the ones in the wrong, is proof that you're a spoiled fag who needs to go back to r/Hololive and stay there.

>>33537412
I'd give half of that, probably around 11k because I know some of you don't watch the streams you're just waiting for the clips.

>>33538317
Gee it's almost as if a big part of the pro homo side are seething nijifaggots who want to drag HoloEN into the mud with them

Luckily HoloJP will have it's boot on Nijis face forever but it's disappointing how easily EN was infiltrated and subverted by the Niji femcels

>>33538848
Enjoy the indogs and kiwifarms roasties!

>>33539060
>you guys need more loose women in school
There's a lot though? You just don't have game. If you're a white guy then it's easier for you to get women here.

>>33539967
I make 6 figures a year and bought every merch and superchatted 20k worth to our clock queen and even I’m not salty over this fake yab collab. I fuck hookers monthly so im not a mentally ill parasite like you

>>33540128
>calling a whore a queen
continue with your sunk cost fallacy

>>33539681
Isn't the cover employee that handles their leddit called "T-chan"? It all makes sense.

>>33537412
I wonder how she will feel once her whales will stop donating and buying merch.

>>33537412
Imagine 22k twitter trannies watching Unpacking for no other reason than to stick it to those heckin' meanie weenie lonely boys that sunk over a year of their life watching every second of content she put out. lmao
What a sad situation for everyone involved.

>>33540128
Not what I meant, mama's boy. Kronii doesn't understand the repercussions of going against her primary audience, which isn't you btw, then she's gonna lose. A big part of that 22k likes won't be around for too long, they'll only be around for that drama.
Ofc I don't expect you to get this. Your spoiled faggot ass will never know what it means to work the 8 to 5 plus overtime. So why don't you fuck your hookers with your 6 figure salary and leave the real talk to those who have actually worked in their lives, okay kid?

>>33537412
I don't see any of her VODs with less than 60k views and that's a SC reading, most are above 100k. they will

>>33537412
lets be real no one watches streams anymore even in this place. they just read the threads and form an opinion on what is happening

>>33541111
I'm almost positive he means concurrent viewers. 22k won't happen. Even 10k would be a lot for her.

>>33537412
lol maybe 8k at best thats just my guess

>>33541668
>V-VOD views are not real views
it's just the typical numbernigger cope

>>33537412
I hope you take payment in retweets and likes. Money? Membership? Merch? Whoa sorry I don’t have the money :^)

>>33537412
Don’t like her, don’t care. /here/ to watch a car crashes in slow motion. Nothing of value was lost, she can join the drunk fat wigger at the bottom. How those CCV views doing Double Chinigami? Troonii was the Frosk of HoloEN all along, kek.

>>33541848
You don't have to get mad at me for explaining /vt/ to your unappreciative ass.

>>33542249
implying I didn't know about numbernigger culture, it's funny how they are so attached to the most useless metric out of everything they could measure

>>33537412
They'll show up to one or two streams, give her a pity membership, and then fuck off for good. These are the people you were nice to and let into your fanbase.

>>33537412
Maybe on the first few streams until clock becomes a 3 view all of a sudden. Feels good to be a nijichad right now.

>>33542822
Can we switch? Kronii for Rosemi?

>>33537412
Anglo niggers and their immigrants cant have any new standards other than their own old as fuck garbage.

>>33541848
Actually you are coping, vods don't show how well vtuber is doing...

>>33542402
Remember Mori got showered with a bunch of support and like 10k in SCs after the Connor lean shit. Now a few months later, her CCV is the lowest in HoloEN, her income shrank and her newest music is getting less traction than random other new EN's. Even Kiara's new song beat her latest release.

Opponents will deny reality and go to the usual fallbacks of "pfft she's still in the top 1% of streamers lol" acting as if she actually has to get 0 views and 0 income to be considered damaged by her remarks. Which is impossible when even the lowest of the low Holos are still at least 1-2k CCV.. and Mori is not far from hitting that floor in viewers for solo content. She relies on collabs and promos to constantly paper over the fact that her solo content tanked like the Titanic.

>>33543455
they show it much better than live viewers

>>33539171
>anti parasocial
>voxfag
Jesas the hypocrisy

>>33543548

>>33537412
>only 22k
lemao.

>>33537412
What a fucking waste of such a nice model. Wada is so unlucky.

You think the 63 posters itt donated more than 10$ to Kronii ever?Who am I kidding, whats the blue supa ARS equivalent?

>>33546027
why do you think people pay Kronii and buy her dakimakura and titpad?

>>33545688
>Mori
I mean to be fair, JRPG and VN games aren't exactly buff in here west.

>>33545688
>can't break 10k with buff games
>only announcement stream get 10k
She's in the shitter...

>>33543591
Cope, cover shows who cares enough to tune it to watch it live, instead of coming for clip material

>>33545688
says be free.
uses slutty artwork...
sighs white karens and their double standards

>>33546471
Ccv not cover

>>33545688
>More likes than views
Huh?

>>33537412
>watch nect kronii stream
mori are one of those, and shes busy, so probably she dont have time for that

>>33545688
>7k with Holocure
JESAS. Even Sora got 15k and she usually hovers around 4-5k ccv for normal streams. Mori is fucked

>>33545688
>announcement stream barely breaks 10kccv

>>33546935
At least she got homo collabs. Thats what counts

>>33545688
It gets worse. KIara's new song is about to surpass her new song in a day or two even though Mori's has been out for a month.
It already surpassed her latest cover.

>>33537412
22K CCV is rare for anyone in EN when it's not an event. Kronii will get her normal 11-14K live viewers like she always does. She won't gain anything from this, but she will also not lose from this either.

>>33537412
>>33537412
OPBP

>>33537815
holy fucking shit idk if i should laugh or cry at this

>>33537856
Fauna is actually entertaining and cute. Takodachi's always feel like they are forcing themselves to feel entertained by Ina.

>>33547126
I'll give it a few listens to help it along. Fuck Mori and what shes done to EN

>>33546553
I don't know about anybody else but youtube and twitter notifications on my phone come with a like option now

>>33542178
>Double Chinigami
i giggled

>>33537763
post an english speaking vtuber with more views than her, then

>>33537412
22k for a drama tweet , WEAK

There's 80k people watching Pekora stream a fucking shitty gacha game... HoloEN really was irrelevant after all

>>33537412
Who knows. A return stream usually nets you a buff to numbers

>>33545688
Nice views Mori

It always comes back to mori. Let's not forget who opened the gates fpr EN in the first place

>>33537412
>drama
>only 22K
forsen

>>33548470
lmfao "use gil noble phantasm"

>>33542178
The last 30 days? Pretty good #1 EN and #3 over all

>>33537412
She can count on the vshojo audience!

>>33538949
>>33540091
Why the fuck do you guys always bring up indogs? just because flips is next door doesn't mean that we would do the things that they do.
In fact, PH is the most alien people in SEA, acting like they're a western country.
Most of us only cares about Holo ID, don't make a narrative that a lot of us are involved in this retarded EN drama.

>>33537412
>So i assume that those 22k are going to watch the next kronii stream right?
>LEEEEE LIIIIIIIIIIVEEEE NUMBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one cares retard, why do you think most streams have 5-10k viewers and a week later they have 100k-200k+?
Not everyone can catch streams live, most of those will be watching her regardless.

>>33550326
Go open Kronii's tweet, don't think anyone from PH has Wahyu as their name.

>>33550353
>most of those will be watching her regardless
kek

After a week they will stop caring about her

>>33545688
All whores deserve this

>>33537412
What's funny about that tweet is that she doesn't even understand what her job is. She's a streamer, she's not here to have fun and make new friends, she's here to entertain her viewers. If she has fun and makes friends while doing that then that's a great but that's not her job.

>>33548291
The world isn't limited to just the West, anon. JP is part of "the world", too. You should've said EN / Western if you wanted to limit it to just "EN Speaking VTubers"

>>33548291

>>33537412
Depending on how much she dramafarms that comeback stream title. What they're definitely not going to do is stick around for later streams.

>>33549223
>The other anon talked about CCV
>Link VOD Views
Why are deadbeats like this?

>>33551556
>a week
Unbelievable optimism here. Most of those upboats will not even open the stream.
>>33551869
Western women. What else can you expect but endless solipsism and ego the size of a continent?

Lulu got more likes on her graduation announcement that Coco's despite Lulu's being on the 23rd and Coco's being on the 11th; they graduated within a day of eachother. Lulu's graduation was 190k viewers. Coco's was 490k viewers.

>>33550326
I could answer that, but one of your kinsmen WILL run to a janny about it....if this post is not itself bait.

eventually holoENs will be tweeting this

>>33540128
>I make 6 figures a year
Nobody asked about your model kits, fag.

>>33552441
and then this.

so glad western culture has finally influenced vtubing...

>>33552533
>Using the meme tweet her viewers voted on during her subathon
At least you could have pointed towards her patreon.

>>33540128
The irony of posting this sad tripe on /vt/ of all places shouldn't be lost even on your retarded ass.

>>33548291

>>33537412
44k now, kronii is gonna be so popular!!

>>33552496
Kek nice one

>>33552854
Imagine updoots overtaking the actual VOD number, now that will be a laugh and then some.

>>33552826
Nigga, Kiara is mogging Mori these days.

Didn’t watch kronii before, will continue to not watch her.
Simple as.

>>33553008
A lover scorned, kek.

>>33537412
I assume the VOD will have at least 22k views, yes.

>>33537412

>>33537412
Just like how Finana has 10k viewers!

>>33553008
>moving goalpost
kek

>>33537412
1243 + 2797 + 22.4k = 26.4k

>>33547483
Literally the only chuuba I've seen whose fanbase tells her "Your stream was so _____ it made me fall asleep!" and they unironically think it's a compliment, lmao.

>>33553225
bad comparison, twittersanji only exists on that website

>>33537412
I'll watch her if she actually streams...

>>33539171
Don't worry, his fans actually like being called that.

>>33537412
Enjoy your reddit/twitter audience kronii. I'm sure they'll treat you well

Why do any of you care, Kronii has always been boring and a shitty streamer

>>33537412
If she collabs with a man one more time I'm never watching her ever again. I was just starting to forgive and considering reinstating my membership.

If she does it again I won't even watch collabs with her present. She can collab with whoever she wants, but on her head be the consequences. Can't say I'm not disappointed.

>>33537412
I wouldn't be surprised if they did for the return stream. Its the one after that that they won't show up for.

>>33537412
She wishes, but the retards with an agenda are sadly they're the most vocal, and it only takes one woman moment for the girls to fall for it. Like some diseases, it's better to fall for it and get out when you won't suffer that much from it, like other vtubers have experienced.

>>33553658
Return? From what? An unannounced hiatus? Embarassing.

>>33545688
How absolutely fucked do you have to be to only get 7k on a fucking Holocure stream? Jesus Christ, someone put her out of her misery already.

>Verification not required.

Here's hoping she collabs with more males :^)

>>33554187
Is she getting fucked by Vesper or by the blue dude?

>>33554187
Got it in original resolution?

>sex model and voice position her as potential breakout of council
>makes it clear she hates being seen as a sex symbol. gets depressed doesn't stream.
>gachis still oshi and throw money at her despite lack of streams and low effort content
>Announces she will do male collabs but hates shipping leaving her audience shrunk to femcels that are going to use her as a self-insert for their homostar fantasies.

Her self sabotage game is strong. She should just Sana if she hates it so much

>>33537802
>buy her merch
Yeah, those 22K people will buy her dakis and oppai mousepad?
>tags
Those tags are weak, create something like #wesupportRushia

>>33537815
Not their fault
They had to touch grass you know often

>>33539171
>A kindred
>parasocial shits
Whoa the projection is strong

>>33538028
lel

>>33537412
So you assume a majority of people here would watch her stream otherwise?

>>33537412
Bitch you're here to entertain me, I'm here to be entertained. It's your fucking job and I'm paying well figuratively speaking. You'll be collaborating with whomever your boss wants, you can associate with whomever you want on your off time, stupid whore.
t. don't even watch her

>>33540032
because homo collabs have never been a thing in holojp, they would never

>>33554437
If Kronii fucking wastes Wada's sex model I'll just have to figure out how to use it for myself.

>>33543591
i hate numberfagging but this just isn't true

>>33552002
>Like oshi like fans
Both are retards
And they also can't understand Mori's VOD views would always be high up there since she is a music focused Holo

>>33542304
>useless
Not really
High CCV means a lot of people are willing to abandon whatever they are doing or make time to watch your stream live
It can be used to measure how loyal your fans are since they are willing to show up for regular streams no matter what

>>33554187
i dislike homobegging because i don't want the girls to leech off of our boys but...
i'll tolerate it if it means more unicorn tears

>>33537412
lolmao

>>33537412
It’s possible, but I wouldn’t believe for a second that they’d stick around for long.

>>33549223
How many millions of dead subs does gura have

>>33537412
It's a well known fact that Twitter likes and retweets don't translate to views.

your parents would be so embarrassed if they knew how schizo you all were. it's just streaming, you fucking weirdos lmao

>>33556236
go back.

>>33537412
>Twitter trannies
>watching streams
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>33537412
why would someone that hates idol culture join hololive? is she fucking retarded?

>>33556269
to where, virgin? lol

I want these whores to stay away from Vesper

>all those threads getting deleted
This one's probably the next

>>33538167
No I agree, she could be ao much more if she wasn't such a woke cunt

>>33556322
Money

>>33556383
jannies are on maximum damage control mode

>>33556322
>is she fucking retarded?
she will always be a woman

>>33556437
but wouldn't she get more money if she acted like an idol? i just can't understand the female brain

>>33556383
Jannies are timebeats, I thought this much was known.

>>33537412
lmfao of course not. more than half of them just watch clips only.

>>33537412
Hahaha no. Just like not rushia, Up a little while then boom down down down. Twitter and reddit ppl are not that loyal and watch stream.

>>33537412
Why do the girls seem to have unlimited time to collab with the guys but not with each other?

It's a deal. You collab with whoever you want and I'll watch whoever I want.

>>33556826
Noooooo you have to keep watching and donating or that makes you an incel to silently stop watching without causing any other problems for her noooooooooooo

>>33556779
You know why.

the fact that she was even considering NOT collabing with whomever she wants is fucked up. She is not your gf, your mom or your friend. She is an entertainer...period. If you dont like it then you and your parasocial relationship can fuck off...

>>33556508
That would require effort from her and western (or westernized) women are lazy whores

>>33556916
>writing blog posts about she has betrayed her fans and sending abusive superchats and spamming the /vt/ catalog with anti threads
>not causing any other problems for her

>>33557007
>you're parasocial if you'd prefer the entertainer to continue doing the same thing instead of abandoning that to do something entirely different and worse

>>33556540
I was one too.

>>33556324
But you've never left the virgin in the first place.

>>33557007
I'm not entertained by this. She should have probably considered that, being an entertainer.

>>33557007
She’s part of a company where the main appeal was that it was an all female group.
If they want to change that then maybe they should quit and find someplace where they’d be a better fit.

>>33557117
>Nooooooo you're not allowed to express your opinion on a site she doesn't even read or acknowledge

>>33557007
Why wouldn't an entertainer of all people put her fans feelings ahead of her own? Isn't that kind of the whole point of being an entertainer? Isn't it more parasocial to expect her to act like she usually does in front of an audience, even if it is unentertaining, because you consider her your friend or something and would watch her do whatever?

>>33557007

>she's an entertainer so she should do whatever she wants

no, she's an entertainer so she should put the good of the show before her own personal feelings

>>33556916
>or that makes you an incel
if you voluntarily choose to be an incel, doesn't that make you a volcel? I mean, it's not involuntary anymore

GURA'S GETTING A FUCKING DAKI AND ALL YOU FAGGOTS CAN TALK ABOUT IS SOME PETTY DRAMA
A FUCKING CUNNY DAKIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>33540128
Proof next thread?

>>33557291
>You can't leave her or else you're bad
Damn double standards, kek.

>>33557291
At some point enough people started claiming it means "thinks he's owed attention from women" instead of literally just "involuntary celibate" but people really just use it as a generic insult even when neither definition applies

>>33557291
People who call others incels think volcel is a cope because their entire self-image revolves around their sexuality

>>33537412

I’d watch if she streamed in EU friendly hours and not 3am. I’m left with just clips and scraps.

I hope this means NijiEN collabs!

>>33537412
It's at 44k now
Going to be biggest Kronii stream this month!

>>33557857
reality and fiction LOL
redditer and twitter in fiction land

>>33537895
She will when the money dries up

kson gets like 50k likes when she uploads a selfie but 3k watching her stream.

go figure, twitter likes mean jackshit, just a bunch of morons masturbating their egos.

>>33538317
Color me surprised, the people that like mixed gender showers company don't mind if other companies do the same.

>>33539539
Because she did. Straight to their faces.

Morning cucks, I see your recommending tempus streams to watch. Glad you guys finally got to the acceptance stage.

>>33557277
This. The twitch whoretubers that want numbers live by this.

>>33539171
Top kek.This has to be a troll account

>>33545688
>only 6k on Rust
goddamn...

>>33558217
>tweet that is up 24/7 gets bigger number than stream that is only up for two hours beginning at 6 AM EST
big if true

>>33555690
It's more demographics than anything. Ignoring the recent Live a Live and Va-11 hall-a streams since no one on EN wants to watch multipart JRPGs or VNs, Mori generally gets similar vod viewership to Ina despite averaging sometimes less than half as many live viewers. That's because Ina has mostly NA viewers and streams at decent NA hours. Mori on the other hand has a large JP viewership and NA, while also streaming at not great times for either since she is generally busy with music during JP prime time or sleeping during NA prime time so she gets a lot of VOD viewers who miss streams.

>>33537412
Why she virtue signaling? Just fucking collab with whoever. No need to post about it.

>>33537908
Timezones, how do they work.

>>33547353
>normal 11-14K
kek, nice joke

>>33553008
>Comparing a sponsored Cover to an Original song
I mean if you want to make a proper comparison why not compare Mori's latest original song?

>>33545688
At this point just Graduate, she’s pretty much sinking and bringing everyone with her as a final bang.

>>33549835
oh Lord...

>>33551869
Howndid Cover fuck up so bad with her? If you want to make your audience laugh you hire a clown, not the guy that wants to laugh.

>>33557782
Take that up with NijiEN management.

Female Nijisanji EN experience, virtue signal on Twitter for likes and shit but end up hardly getting any views on YouTube. Take note of how the vast majoirty of people agreeing with her are Nijifags or troons, clockcucks continue losing.

>>33553521
It's funny as fuck because the only thing people cared about kronii was her tits.

>>33537412
Oh they will, its always like that after drama, people tune in right after to hear more but she'll slowly bleedout viewers.

Twitter experience in a nutshell:

>Say something that the circle jerk agrees with
>"OMG BASED BASED BASED"

The bastardization of calling something someone said based because you agree with it, has got to be one of the biggest offenses of Twitter.

>>33538167
How is Kronii a liberal or a misandrist? I follow all of her accounts and nothing has ever given me this indication.

>>33556322
Probably thought she was going to pull an Ayame and get paid for doing nothing because sex model/voice. Didn't realize she had to pretend to like her fans for a while for that to work.

>Clockbeats

>>33557007
>She is an entertainer...
Exactly why she should do what entertains her audience, not what makes them angry. Do you think famous singers never get tired of the same song over and over? But they know that's what their audience wants to hear.

>>33560358
post your famous songs

>>33552441
If they ever become like this I will become a HoloEN anti

>>33537619
unironically i was touching grass for 5 days and was curious what i missed in the vtuber sphere.
nothing much.

>>33559975
not OP but I consider myself a great judge of character after all the studying I've done. She's may not hate men but she definitely doesn't like male fans, crying for your own struggle is different than crying out of gratitude

>>33557327
That will be another drama when it will be released
Probably something along the line of Gura's fans are pedophile or Hololive is encouraging pedo and the variations

>>33537412
I'll make sure to do it just to spire you

>>33560901
Meanwhile Gura will ignore twitter, make cute and funny jokes while raking in cash

>>33560961
inb4 good morning sirs

>>33545688
Gura's 45 second holocure stream beat mori's lmao

>>33559975
Her rm used to follow a anti male account that posted that stuff all the time. Someone months ago asked her about in dms and she drug it to public to shit on him and claim she forgot she was following that account before deleting the evidence.
I believe the lib thing is because on a youtube comment she said she was genderfluid. Don't know if it still exists but someone screenshotted it and put it on google images.

>it's the cuckbeats all over again

>>33548291

>>33538167
If you're an adult and watch vtubers, you're a manchild

>>33562216
who?

>>33540609
Can't wait to see the inconsequential, flesh wound-tier hit she's gonna take from this MASS EXODUS of "real" fans you speak of.

>>33561854
I’ve heard both stories, still isn’t indicative of political leaning.

>>33537412
I will watch for Vesper

>>33537412
yep kroni WON

>>33562749
no dude, the obsessed fans who INCREASE her CCV are the TRUE FANS and their views are worth MULTIPLE TIMES more than VOD views. believe /#/, mori and kiara should be graduating any day now

>>33556826
that is just petty behavior
just don´t watch, no reason to unsub her

>>33562999
She doesn't deserve the sub if she doesn't make content you want to watch anymore

Can’t I just have some FUN?

>>33537412
HOMOCHAD
DOMINATION

>>33562999
>stay subscribed to someone who's content you actively do not want to watch
Sounds like anti behavior to me. Why are you encouraging acting like a schizo?

>>33537412
Bought likes and twitter NPCs pretending like they're fighting a culture war add up real fast

>>33559279
>If you want to make your audience laugh you hire a clown, not the guy that wants to laugh.
Kek. Fucking perfect analogy.

>>33559837
So true, this is only on twitter, and doesn't happen anywhere else. Certainly not on a website that starts with "4" and ends in "channel"

god I feel depressed just knowing this drama exists

Can someone collab with me?

>>33537412
>those 22k are going to watch

>>33537412
I am just to piss off /vt/
Don't like males but this constant retarded drama annoys me far more.

>>33537412
>make friends and have fun
Isn't that what everyone says on tinder..

>>33537412
HAH
fuck no.
About 1% of those retards will even CLICK on kroniis next stream
20% or more are probably botted in the first place. Absurd amount of bots on twitter

>>33539171
Have you ever become so much irony that you literally transform into a black kettle
Voxfags... It's like an intellectual blackhole

>>33563768
i know right? this could have been avoided just by not collab with males! what a stupid fucking mistake

>>33537412
penis won

>>33540128
>fuck hookers
>donate a tonne of money to women on the internet
>use 4chan
>like about how much money you make and donate
>not mentally ill
lmao
toppest of keks

>>33537412
Did it ever occur to you that Kronii main viewership is not on either Twitter or /vt/?

>>33552533
What does this entail exactly
She's gonna do lewd MODEL porn stuff or actually post her irl nudes or both or what

>>33562999
Nta, but why do you even bother to subs to channel you won't watch?
And subscribing is an act of showing support to a certain extent
Why would I support someone ungrateful like her?

>Hate idol culture
>Join the biggest virtual idol company
????
Women

I don't understand hololive fans.

You don't want your oshi to collab with males. Yet you draw a billion fanarts of her being fucked by random men.

>>33565160
Porn is not reality, anon.

>>33563745
Shut the fuck up retard.
Even HERE the bastardization of the term is NOT that bad.
It may be used incorrectly but it's still almost always used when someone is going AGAINST THE GRAIN, and saying or doing something that is RISKY and "brave" by going against social norms and whats generally socially acceptable etc.
And not just hehe i like this opinion hehe like the retards on twitter and plebbit

>>33565160
Those do things are not the same you fucking idiot.
That's like saying
>You people claim to hate carrots but now you say you love potatoes???

>>33560961
you're from twitter so I'm not worried. you'll have forgotten about the clock before the day is out

>50k
OMG xisters, Kronii won so hard!

>>33537691
This, and they Will preach in the comment section to farm likes, and feel morally superior

>>33566115
Why are people who seek morality points, are the actual lowest scums on earth?

>>33559975
What the others have said, plus her general behavior in streams.

>>33562336
I'm too old to be bothered by what labels you're attaching on me, a literal 48 year old comedian watches Pekora in his free time in Japan.

>>33545688
Looks like Sana didn't leave after all

>>33565160
Are you saying me doodling you sucking dick is the same as you sucking dick?

>>33565233
you are not unique or different anon. 2022 4chan is literally as watered down as any other social media no matter how hard you try to cope about how special your circle is

>>33552496
I admit that was pretty good

>>33553856
>Jesus Christ, someone put her out of her misery already
I don't know why you think Mori cares. She is probably just glad that she has her core fanbase and less eyes on her.

I dont' get it. Why Mori and Kronii are seeking validation FROM the people that don't give her money nor donate? What is this thing with western girls and their rejection to a faithful fanbase? Those numbers are so weak in comparison to the even new Rushia, who usually gets 7k or 4k whenever she is streaming chat. Like, why can the rest of HoloEN imitate what Gura, Fauna and Kiara are doing?

>>33565160
Those random men? Me.

>>33562999
why sub if you are not going to watch?

Guys, kiara's new song is pretty good if you haven't listened to it yet

>>33566626
You know how when parents tell their teenager not to do something, they will do everything in their power to do exactly that even if they know it will hurt them? Some people never grow out of that, most commonly women.

>>33566575
Mori will never be happy and it's her own fault idiot

>>33546287
NijiEN's Elira Pendora with 400k subs pulls roughly the same number of CCVs playing JRPGs like Xenoblade as Mori as this point in time.

>>33565878
That we will see in a few months if her numbers remain the same then she truly won, Twitter likes are a meaningless metric, IMO I truly believe that her numbers won't change

she's gonna go on a rant isnt she

>>33566626
Are you retarded? Who do you think give money to streaming girls pretending to be anime?

>>33566626
But Mori has been up front about male collabs since her debut.

>>33566626
>Why Mori and Kronii are seeking validation FROM the people that don't give her money nor donate?
They think "integrity" can feed them, clothe them, pay their property tax, etc. Probably girls who grew up TOO opinionated and never lived a life of struggle. Even the fatass could get a Japanese boyfriend if the rumors were true, there's no way to break down all those walls of female privilege at this point.

>>33566942
A faithful fanbase, anon. Mostly unicorns and based antimale collabers.

>>33566961
Yes and look how slowly has she declined over the time in two years.

>>33567024
When has "integrity" been show up to feed them or save them? By your post you are also telling me that Gura, Kiara and potentially Fauna have lived within struggle. Kiara is the better example?

>>33566646
Me? Gongaga

>>33567195
Kiara is the best example, and I think Reflect pretty much tells the story about Gura.
>Fauna
Still have no idea. She's wishy washy.
>When has "integrity" been show up to feed them or save them?
We live in a world where people think there are several genders instead of just 2. Reality is not a thing for people like Mori and Kronii.

>>33566626
This is how women who have been spoiled their whole life with no exposure to things outside their bubble deal with criticism.

>>33567416
>We live in a world where people think there are several genders instead of just 2. Reality is not a thing for people like Mori and Kronii.
It should be, otherwise reality will hit you hard. And yes, people think and it is okay to say that there are multiple genders. But like a wise man said, does it matter? 100, 150 years in the future, when we are all dead, scientifics and archeologists are going to look upon our rests, find them, and then there, they will show up that either the corpse is the one of a female, or a male, nothing in between. This is a bad allegory because it means that whatever you are doing or attempting to do right now, will no longer matter since the actual facts were already there, specially about Kronii rejecting her unicorns.

>>33567475
How can WE show them the real life? I live with a female that has endured pure bullshit and I don't think she would reject the unicorns as harsh as Mori and Kronii did.

>>33567684
>How can WE show them the real life?
legally? you can't

>>33567684
the ugly one knows how hard real life is...

>>33567684
>But like a wise man said, does it matter?
Yes. Yes it does matter. Especially when those people start to enter most positions of power in society and start to enforce their shit on children in elementary school. Those children are the ones who will forge the next generation.

>>33567684
>This is a bad allegory
No it's not. I know the guy you're talking about, and while that's one example, there's numerous other examples in the current time, like medicine. You can't say you identify as anything else because medicines are catered towards a person's characteristics, INCLUDING their birth gender. If I say I identified as an attack helicopter, should I go to the airport hangar for repairs whenever I get sick? That's reality. Either you accept it or you don't. Kronii rejecting her unicorns isn't in line with reality, despite those retards being the people that primarily compose her fanbase, buy her merch, send her akasupas, and watch her streams from start to finish, not just clips.

>How can WE show them the real life?
Experience is the best teacher. Boot em out of Hololive, see if their careers flourish. It's an expensive lesson but it's the best lesson they'll ever learn.

>>33537412
Oh nyo, Sharkie is reclining too!

>>33567195
>Yes and look how slowly has she declined over the time in two years.
But you can't exactly she said tricked them when she has been upfront about them since the begin. She never wanted those kinda fans.

So why didn't some of the girls just collab with men from the very beginning instead of leading on their fanbases for 1 or 2 whole years?

>>33568131
>Kronii rejecting her unicorns isn't in line with reality, despite those retards being the people that primarily compose her fanbase
This is literally just delusional unicorn cope though.

>>33567024
I don't know about Kronii but Mori had her struggles but obviously not as much as Ame.

>>33566626
>Why Mori and Kronii are seeking validation FROM the people that don't give her money nor donate?
Probably because they relate better to and think more along the lines of these people rather than the Hololive fandom. I'm sure they 'appreciate' money but not to the point of selling themselves out fully (just partially).
Oh and in before 'well why the fuck did they join Hololive/Idol Industry/etc. then'

>>33568649
>implying that I'm a unicorn
What I don't get from you reddit tourist fucks is how pissing off your most loyal part of your fanbase, your biggest source of income, is a good move to do business-wise. I'm just a realistic person who understands that actions have consequences, that joining a big corporation means you have to adhere to their rules, and that the culture that comes with that work should be respected.

>>33568761
Mori had her struggles but monetary struggles aren't one of them at least. To live in Japan for an amount of time without any substantial income is a very expensive endeavor. Even Kiara had to take dubious shit just to survive, all Mori had to do was hangout in her personal paradise.

>>33568549
Because there were only JP members of Holostars until two months ago, and only 4 of the current HoloEN roster can speak Japanese at a conversational level?
Not like most of the EN girls collab that often with the JP girls, even the ones who do speak Japanese.

>>33565878
Holy shit its so passive-aggresive, why cant they just let mane-chan write a statement for them?

>>33568980
>but monetary struggles aren't one of them at least
I never said that.

>>33567914
No it doesn't. Because in the end, whatever the fuck people are doing right now, it will also not be true in the future. But the only facts that have been proven truth over the milleniums have standed still.

>>33569374
Never said you did, don't worry.

>>33568980
>how pissing off your most loyal part of your fanbase, your biggest source of income, is a good move to do business-wise
I don't know if I'd say that unicorns are the "most loyal" "fans". They're certainly the most delusional. All your other claims about "biggest source of income" and the like are up to you to prove, good luck with that.
>I'm just a realistic person who understands that actions have consequences, that joining a big corporation means you have to adhere to their rules, and that the culture that comes with that work should be respected.
You were pushing this "I'm just being realistic" notion in the last thread. You aren't. You're delusional and coping.
>joining a big corporation means you have to adhere to their rules, and that the culture that comes with that work should be respected.
Do you as a fan not have to abide by the rules the company sets for the engagement you have with their talent? Because they've made it pretty clear that schizos harassing their talent under the guise of "we do it because we're your most loyal fans" isn't going to fly.

>>33569544
>and the like are up to you to prove, good luck with that.
It's common fucking sense? What the fuck do I have to prove. There's decades worth of this shit, that's why the word wota exists.
>You were pushing this "I'm just being realistic" notion in the last thread. You aren't. You're delusional and coping.
No, I'm being realistic. Piss off your most loyal fanbase, and chances are that the status quo won't be enjoyed for too long. Ask the Japanese Sony fans how they felt when Sony started closing down Team Asobi and switching up the button layout.
>Do you as a fan not have to abide by the rules the company sets for the engagement you have with their talent?
No, because I don't work for Hololive, therefore I don't have an obligation. The idols working for Cover on the other hand, DO. If this basic fucking shit evades you, then please for the love of everything holy do not talk to me about delusion. You clearly have zero knowledge about the real world.

>>33566938
She's gonna >>33552441

>>33552441
This tweet will never stop being funny to me. This is peak EN girl streamer energy, and they still are giving her their money.

>>33570079
Finana's so fucking dumb, but her simps are dumber.

Wanna bet some retard thought this would be a good way to promote the Psychiatry collab?

>>33569733
>No, I'm being realistic. Piss off your most loyal fanbase, and chances are that the status quo won't be enjoyed for too long. Ask the Japanese Sony fans how they felt when Sony started closing down Team Asobi and switching up the button layout.
IDK I think Sony moving their game HQ from Japan to California and censoring the fuck out of their anime and other otaku content in general, along with horrendous supply issues for the PS5 (and other consoles) in the past two years played more of a part than just that. It was years worth of poor decisions. Then again, this is only tangentially related, and you're still operating under the assumption that unicorns are "the most loyal" when that's your opinion.
>No, because I don't work for Hololive, therefore I don't have an obligation. The idols working for Cover on the other hand, DO. If this basic fucking shit evades you, then please for the love of everything holy do not talk to me about delusion. You clearly have zero knowledge about the real world.
Good job sidestepping my question yet again because you are a fucking retard as you've showcased throughout all your other replies. I'll restate it just so you can't keep acting oblivious/sidestep.
Cover has rules for not just their talents but also for the fans. They've made it clear in the past, and with this recent debacle that they won't tolerate harassment towards their talents, even from those "most loyal" "fans" you keep talking about.
>You clearly have zero knowledge about the real world.
Rich coming from someone pedaling and pushing acceptance of mentally ill fan behavior.
Still waiting for something to prove any of the shit you've been repeating.

>>33569733
Common sense is bs. The unicorns are a considerable source of money but their leverage is vastly overstated. Your median loyal kronii is closer to the people who write supportive comments in her community posts and on archives. Moreover, the "rules and culture" angle is shit because pandering to unicorns is not cover policy. ffs they just released a statement in support of talent freedom

>>33572312
>IDK I think Sony moving their game HQ from Japan to California and censoring the fuck out of their anime and other otaku content in general, along with horrendous supply issues for the PS5 (and other consoles) in the past two years played more of a part than just that. It was years worth of poor decisions. Then again, this is only tangentially related, and you're still operating under the assumption that unicorns are "the most loyal" when that's your opinion.
>Good job sidestepping my question yet again because you are a fucking retard as you've showcased throughout all your other replies. I'll restate it just so you can't keep acting oblivious/sidestep.
Cover has rules for not just their talents but also for the fans. They've made it clear in the past, and with this recent debacle that they won't tolerate harassment towards their talents, even from those "most loyal" "fans" you keep talking about.
>Rich coming from someone pedaling and pushing acceptance of mentally ill fan behavior.
Still waiting for something to prove any of the shit you've been repeating.
NTA But piss shit and cum

>>33537412
>after much consideration
Translation: After Mori told me to epically own my fans for the lulz.

>>33556916
>typing "no" with too many o's is worthy of deletion

>>33573097
i'm sure it was the other buzzword in the post

>>33572926
At the same time? Seems like you need just as much help as the schizos here.

>>33573126
Jannies have a problem with people mocking that buzzword then?