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>entire business revolves around preying on mentally ill men
>lash out at them when they have any expectations of you
You know sane person won't buy dakis and oppaipad right?

>> No.33535129

Can't wait for the gura daki, got shion's and aqua as well for the holy trinity.

>> No.33535145

>>33534862
>sane person won't buy dakis and oppaipad right?
Sadly they're Westerners so I'm sure they view those as 'ironic'.

>> No.33535183

>>33534862
I haven't bought shit and pay for my membership in ARS

>> No.33535225

They'll care once their income tanks and they realize clipwatchers aren't the ones paying their bills.
They'll have to choose between giving up their current wealthy lifestyle or come crawling back.

>> No.33535525

>>33534862
Bullying mentally ill men to suicide isn't just hilarious, it's a moral imperative. I doubt she will, but I'd love if Gura eventually twisted the knife on the chumpedos.

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>>33535525
The absolute state of clockcucks and tempiss beggars.

>> No.33535709

>>33535225
This. 10,000 likes on Twitter ≠ 10,000 viewers/dollars. Doing collabs with males won't kill her career, but it will make a dent. Kronii constantly berating her chat like she always does is what will force more of her paypigs to leave.

>> No.33535790

In unicorns' brains, NEETs are the ones with disposable income, even tho there's no UBI or autismbux

>> No.33535860

>>33534862
>You know sane person won't buy dakis and oppaipad.

For content. I do.

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>>33535599
>brings Tempus up completely unprompted
rent free

>> No.33535933

>>33534862
Sane person wouldn't but ironic weebs would.

>> No.33535952

>>33535225
People always say this but are there any examples of this being true? Like a girl abandoning a part of her audience and actually paying the price?

>> No.33535971

>>33535709
>berating her chat like she always does

That part'll do it. The one's who don't like male collabs or whatever are gone or soon to be gone, they're not even there to hear her bitching about it.

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>>33535599
Checked the catalog, lately?

>> No.33535984

>>33535952
Ollie and Finana.

>> No.33536350

>>33535952
Nyanners
Nyanners again
Nyanners for the third time

Although to be fair if you didn't see that last one coming you sort of deserve it

>> No.33536446

>>33534862
I'd buy a daki if I had my own place. They look really fun and the myth around that kind of merch was always intriguing. As for an oppaipad I wanted one til I researched and ir wasnt actually good for your wrists. You can be relatively sane and buy a daki.

People who buy acrylic stands though? They're fucked up in the head. Only people would buy laminated pngs just because it has a picture of your oshi in it. Any justification of it's purchase is insane logic by default.

>> No.33536478

>>33534862
Fuck off Wyatt

>> No.33536687

>>33535145
If you have daki then you are mentally ill and this is the truth

>> No.33536862

>>33534862
most viewers are twitterfags who only like anime and anime merch ironically. They think people buy dakis and oppaipads as a joke

>> No.33536903

>>33535709
I gurantee you these roasties will go radio silent about this and move on to destroy others.

>> No.33536913

>>33534862
I have a daki with no body cover.

>> No.33536926

>>33536687
And that’s a good thing unironically. This is a hobby built by and for no-life, bottom of the barrel, social reject menhera schizo failure total losers, and it should stay that way. This is our space and normalfags will never really understand why and how things work, they will destroy everything

>> No.33537038

>>33534862
Maybe move on then and let them have the normie audience they so badly desire since they don't care about you?

>> No.33537068

>>33537038
>normie
kill yourself

>> No.33537122

>>33535952
Only tourists ask this question

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>copypasted one of my comments as a new thread
That's pretty fucking gay, anon.

>> No.33537348

>>33537038
Most of them will, if they realize there're better options. Maybe they don't known what to do next

>> No.33537473

>>33535952
Did you miss Finana crawling back with fapbait ASMR after her trap drama?

>> No.33537625

>>33537038
The normalfag audience doesn't want them. They already have their XQCs, Markipliers, Pewdiepies, etc.

>> No.33537626

>>33535952
this, someone post charts proving this shit or stfu

>> No.33537676

>>33534862
I would never buy a daki, even from my own oshi

>> No.33537677

>>33534862
>You know sane person won't buy dakis and oppaipad right?
Unfortunately, like someone already mentioned, fanbases today enjoy everything burried under 10 layers of irony, so I wouldn't be surprised if anyone owned those.

>> No.33537782

>>33534862
I like anime stuff and i'm a full weeb but gakis of any kind always felt pathetic. I would never buy that shit.
Action figures are fucking cool though

>> No.33538377

>>33535952
Nazuna. Yes some of her paypigs are still there, but she's not enjoying the same numbers as she was when she was Rushia, and Twitch viewership as a whole is going down at an alarming rate.

>> No.33538564

>>33534862
Sane person don't watch anime girls play video games. Nor do they come to forums to talk about them. Thats right. I am talking to YOU.

>> No.33538614

>>33538564
Yes, and?

>> No.33538885

>>33534862
They will buy them 'ironically.'

>> No.33539323

>>33535952
A lot of the vshojo girls are a prime example, nyanners has lost more than half the audience she had last year since the boyfriend collab shit
Nazuna's numbers were good in the first week, then completely fell off because she kept on trying to appeal to EoP who were never really a fan of rushia
Kson's numbers are just depressing, she's closing in on being a 3view, her fans didn't want all the change with vshojo/male collabs

>> No.33539546

>>33535952
The entirety of twitch camwhores whenever it's found out they have a boyfriend. Slap an anime avatar on them and now you can't even mention a male without tanking your views

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>>33535952
There's ALOT of 2views that this happens to, this girl straight up deleted her old identity and redebuted when she slipped about her boyfriend when she larped as being single for so long.
https://litter.catbox.moe/9jmtd4.mp4

>> No.33540442

>>33535952
Once upon a time, Fubuki was one of the top superchatted holos

>> No.33540755

>>33540262
>this girl straight up deleted her old identity and redebuted when she slipped about her boyfriend
Wasn't that because she became corporate? Anyway, she is, from what I have seen, at least a good sport about.

>> No.33540881

>>33540755
She didn't go corporate until recently, she went off the grid for a whole year for people to completely forget the yab, with how much she baited GFE and being single it was pretty bad, her own audience didn't care too much about it but it basically made it impossible to collab with new people because she became a laughing stock in the 2view community

>> No.33541091

>>33534862
>spoiler

It's probably the only thing keeping me from getting those. I want the daki-cover, cause I'm getting a pillow regardless, but my sanity...

>> No.33541176

>>33540881
I don't think ASS ever baited GFE though. She did avoid the topics on males, however. As for who she is no, I don't know if that changed because I only watch her infrequently.

>> No.33541355

>>33540262
>>33540881
Stop being disingenuous. It just took a shitload of time from the closure of PC auditions to the new gen debut. So long they even sneaked a gen of established chuubas inbetween.

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33541385

>>33534862
The Great Cunny Hope

>> No.33541470

>>33534862
>Spoiler
Am i one of the few people that did buy Kronii's merch and still think what she's doing is fine?
>Why did you buy it if you don't think she's your gf?
To support her and genuinely hope she does well in what she wants.

>> No.33541652

>>33541470
Homobeggar

>> No.33541696

>>33541652
Right, imagine thinking you'd get a proper response in this shithole, thanks for the (you).

>> No.33541870

>>33541470
>Am i one of the few people that did buy Kronii's merch
Why did you buy it
>To support her and genuinely...
You didn't buy anything though, so how would you know fag?

>> No.33541886

>>33541696
Get your screenshot and go back the fuck back to r*ddit troon, ywnbaw

>> No.33541938

>>33541470
It's Vt. This will blow over in a few weeks when the next drama comes up and people will forget clock woman talked to a man.

Just love your oshi anon, that's all that matters.

>> No.33542022

>>33535952
Somebody post the Finana blowjob ASMR for this poor lost tourist.

>> No.33542100

>>33541870
Yeah I totally didn't buy her merch even though I have bought it, you totally got me.
>>33541938
Yeah, fair enough, thanks for the re-confirmation that I'm still sane.

>> No.33542203

>>33541470
What Kronii did was anything but fine, even if you like homo collabs. All she had to do was to shut up about it. Instead, she makes one dumbass comment after the other, which only increase the drama not only by making the already involved parties mad, but also by drawing the attention from normalfags to it, who had no idea what was going on. Just look at the comments under the holopro tweets. So many people didn't know the context.

>> No.33542378
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>>33541938
Not if she keeps collabing with tempiss. The constant drama and flak will whittle her fanbase down and kill her. She wouldn’t have addressed it if there wasn’t significant resistance against it by her fans.

>> No.33542622

>>33542378
I think this is pure conjecture. The amount of actual "fans" that will leave due to her collabing with dudes will be negligible. JP girls do it all the time. Some might not watch those streams, and an even smaller percent will stop watching her entirely, but it's not going to be near enough to really make a difference.

I mean even after the Deadbeats getting literally cucked by Calli, she saw pretty much no dip in numbers. They'll all be fine.

>> No.33542633

>>33542203
>what I really want to talk about is sexism in streaming…
fucking pottery
https://youtu.be/ryHAIdm_eXo

>> No.33542636

>>33541470

I don't give a fuck who they talk to either desu. Content for me is about amusement so I think it's cool if they're happy and coming up with ways to do that.

If you're obsessing that much about someone's personal life or even who they talk to in their professional life you should be throwing dollars at a non-dogshit therapist (hard to find) instead of girls with anime avatars.

This is why FBK is godtier because she does whatever the fuck she wants even if it pisses off unicorns or China.

>> No.33542726 [DELETED] 

>>33542622
>r*ddit spacing
>deadbeat
t.r*dditroon
kys cuckbeat

>> No.33542829 [DELETED] 

>>33542726
I'm a chumbud not a deadbeat. Meaning I'm a pedophile not a cuck.

>> No.33542871 [DELETED] 

>>33542829
Don't ever falseflag as a chumbud ever again, cuck.

>> No.33542922

>>33542622
You really can't compare deadbeats with other fanbases. There has to be something seriously wrong with anyone who would willingly watch Mori.

>> No.33542951

>>33535599
Rentus Freeus

>> No.33543139

>>33535952
Vox, Nyanners, Finana

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33544044

>>33535886
>>33542951
>Talk about Gura "twisting the knife" implying she's going to collab with males
>Muh rent free tempiss
You are such retards...

>> No.33545008

These posts are getting tiresome, there’s nothing of substance to seethe over here, homobeggar

>> No.33549527

>>33543139
What did Finana do

>> No.33552020

>>33549527
Called her audience parasocial fucks who needed to get the fuck out and then banned the ones who stayed from saying trap because its offensive to troons.

>> No.33552349

>>33534862
It's because they forgot they are streaming as anime girls and anime are supposed to be for weebs only
People used to dislike weebs and tried to stay away from weebs but everything changed because normalfags think anime is cool and everything related to anime has been ruined by their dirty hands

>> No.33552469

>>33537625
>pewdiepies
anon let them man rest in japan

>> No.33552570

>>33536350
Didn't she basically stop streaming for an entire month on her channel after that? That destroys your sub number on twitch.

>> No.33552620

>>33536862
What the fuck does it mean to buy something ironically?

>> No.33552680

>>33552620
It's like buying a dildo and sticking it up your ass even though you are not gay for the lols
How do you not know that? Get with the fucking times

>> No.33553016

>>33542636
>This is why FBK is godtier because she does whatever the fuck she wants even if it pisses off unicorns or China.
But FBK knows not to address the shit, nor will she berate chats like EN girls
Even if she wants to reprimand her chats, she will do it in a way that doesn't sound condescending or rude
I really like the way how JP handles most situations without antagonizing their audiences

>> No.33553156

>>33534862
>dakis and oppaipad
full body pillows are actually very comfortable, especially on winter, dont get the full daky if you dot like it but the pillow is good, the same goes for oppaipad, very comfortable if you get one with good quality gel, which is hard to find out of the opai ones, at the end those are the real benefits, normies can have the same if they step out of their very limited world and try new things.

>> No.33553166

>>33542922
Mori has entertaining streams though. Not all of them and when she isn't in her autopilot mode.

>> No.33553196

Unicornonies let us know the day you receive the merch to go to the dump to pick it up, don't burn it pls

>> No.33553691

>>33542622
>using jp girls as an example
Name them, twitter troon.
How many of them flirt during the collab?
It seems to me that the clucks are more angry that kronii said, basically promised, one thing to them in s member's stream and then a week later did the exact thing she claimed she wouldn't do with no further explanation to them.
I don't think it's even about the actual collabs anymore and more that kronii is twofaced.
Twofaced and can't even tell her members direct, has to do it on impersonal twitter general proclaimarion and hide crying behind management because of the fallout.
Holy shit if there's any clock fags left they're not cucks, they're just retarded for liking a pathetic and weak liar.

>> No.33553823

>>33534862
can confirm, I enjoy my Oshi content but I really can't justify a daki, it would likely cause me more trouble than what is worth

>> No.33553862

My mom has my old Reimu bodypillow in her bedroom and she uses it.

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>>33534862
>You know sane person won't buy dakis and oppaipad right?
Do sane people buy plushies? Asking for a friend.

>> No.33554043

>>33553895
Are you a teenage girl?

>> No.33554089

>>33535952
while finana does technically answer your question, her situation is in a whole different ballpark from kronii's case

>> No.33554100

>>33542622
Do you know what's the most fascinating about Hololive?
For both HoloEN and HoloJP, as long as they are inside Holobox, it will be guaranteed for them to be at least 4views regardless of shits they have done
>JP girls do it all the time
They don't? And even when a few of the JP girls do collabs with Stars, they do not create unnecessary dramas
In actuality, it's not male collabs that will affect a Holo chuuba the most, it's drama that will make their career deteriorates
>I mean even after the Deadbeats getting literally cucked by Calli, she saw pretty much no dip in numbers
Too lazy to provide data but # is where you will get answers with data to back it up

>> No.33554121

>>33553862
Your mom is insane

>> No.33554122

>>33536926
how about getting some help instead rather than turning your mental illness into a cool boys club?

>> No.33554178

>>33535525
Even if she wanted to she can't she's the face of holoen she's a mascot. In all fairness this would be almost a rushia level jab because she won't break any NDAs but because she can't take pressure so she'll decide to graduate unceremoniously by quitting.

>> No.33554204

>>33554043
No, I'm an adult __man

>> No.33554214

>>33552680
Huh? People are weird
I'll rather stick with my own pace

>> No.33554239

>>33553862
Your mom is based and comfpilled.
Maybe you should gift her a new one. Dakimakuri sells very comfy monocolored covers to affordable prices.

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>>33554122

>> No.33554383

>>33542378
>Reaction image from a JP that collabs with males IRL

>> No.33554441

>>33554303
Everyone has to grow up eventually, even anons.

>> No.33554535

>>33536926
Why are you proud to be a no-life, bottom of the barrel, social reject menhera schizo failure total loser?

>> No.33554570

I buy plenty of merch but not dakis and oppaipads. Mainly figs, plushies and anniversary merch.
I have over 70 talents to pick from. Why would I spend money on someone who is stirring up shit on twitter over collabs over someone who is catering to me?
Not even a gachi either, I just don't understand the thought process involved here.

>> No.33554667

>>33554441
>"grew up"
>owns a pass
ame-zing.

>> No.33554741

I lost all the interest I still had in kson and stopped watching her completely & unsubscribed when she joined vshojo.
Heard that many others did the same and her number took a hit and now she is in a bad spot.
Almost felt bad for her but she just keeps alienating her fans over and over again by making shitty decisions. She really did need a management keeping her on a leash.

>> No.33554832

>>33539546
That isn't exclusive to vtubers or idolfaggotry. Female streamers on twitch have been struggling for years against dumb unicorns. Do you think that all female fleshtubers are e-whores or something?

>> No.33554928

>>33554832
What a "struggle" to not go on about specific topics on stream for a few hours.

>> No.33554996

>>33540442
What happened?

>> No.33555088

>>33554535
And why do normalfags keep trying to insert themselves into our space?

>> No.33555105

>>33535952
None. Unicorn paypigs are probably just less than 5% of the entire fan base.

>> No.33555173

>>33552020
So did she became lower than a 2view after that? I unsubbed to most holo and niji, I only watch Rosemi and Kronii these days.

>> No.33555319

>>33554928
>Mentioning having a normal social life and/or a relationship in any capacity is somehow "going on about it for hours on stream"
What I'm trying to say is that Kronii is an idiot, but retards lashing out at female streamers for daring to interact with males is very far from a vtuber-exclusive issue.

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33555371

>>33537122
>You need to accept what unicorns believe on faith

>> No.33555377

>>33555173
her ccv is below 1k frequently
she isn't a true 2view

>> No.33555429

>>33555319
>muh I have to talk about X or it's oppressive
Actual children.
There isn't a male out there who doesn't have a slew of topics they can never talk about at work, or in some cases even among family and friends.
I don't even mean anything taboo or pornographic

>> No.33555496

>>33536478
Not OP but I’m /here/ and I agree

The faster vtuber community rallies around the fact we are ALL sadmen and forces every vtuber to accept the fact they are social workers and not sex workers.

You will see all the shitbag tubers leave because fake stacies who think they can be the next pokimane or amouranth will be buried by self concious cringe at their audience and won’t be able to take it

Only truly selfless vtuber who know what their role is like gooba , Pippa, moomie, fauna , and the JPs who have always known the truth will remain

The rest will fuck off and become fleshtubers

Nyan and vei dropping the avatars will be the first sign of victory in this crusade

>> No.33555556

>>33555429
Talking is very important for women.

>> No.33555615

>>33535225
Cover will start claiming the revenue on clip channels to make up the shortfall.

>> No.33555767

>>33555429
>Thinking women will ever shut up
Men are used to not being able to talk.

>> No.33555914

>>33555088
NTA but: Even if you were right and vtuber fans are all losers, there are degrees to this shit. I have a job and a future and I come here to laugh at people like you who fully intend to be the biggest losers you possibly can and have schizophrenic rage about your cartoon girlfriends not doing exactly what you want at all times.

>> No.33555964

>>33541470
Same. She's my gf in the sense that this is the closest I will ever get to having one.

>> No.33556037

>>33555914
I have a job, a future and a healthy social life and come here to laugh at the losers coming here to laugh at the losers malding about mixed collabs just to feel better about themselves.
I'm also pro gender separation.

>> No.33556148

>>33554122
Since when has talking to a doctor been a light-switch that turns you normal? Not saying you should swear off professional help but its not a silver bullet and there are shitty doctors that will just prescribe some random meds and move onto the next patient

>> No.33556181

>>33555914
>>33556037
Hi virgin neet here

I’m too busy getting my cock sucked while watching Gary guru to care what you anime nerds think

>> No.33556323

>>33556148
>just prescribe some random meds
95% of /vt/ would benefit from ketamine treatments.

>> No.33556661

>>33555914
>uh yes I watch le animay virtual gfs ironically

You are anonymous on this site, you can drop the copes now

>> No.33556733

>>33541470
>Why did you buy it if you don't think she's your gf?
Parasocial friendship i get, but why the FUCK would i want cardboard PNGs as girlfriends
ever

>> No.33557053

>>33534862
Cover tends to be retarded

>> No.33557285

>>33553016
Its because people in the west lack empathy (in the true sense of the word), whereas japan has a pathological amount of it

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>>33535952
>Rushia
>Coco technically
>Finana
>Ollie
>Hana Macchia
>Nyanners
>Shirara
>Koopa
Ok so that's everyone on the list so far. There's probably a few dozen more of the notable ones you could squeeze in there but the issue is that after the drama dies and everyone has left them you usually forget they exist entirely. That and if they were relatively obscure to begin with you'd never hear of the small 2/3 views who yab'd and lost their entire audience when /vt/ was never around to witness it

>> No.33557747

>>33555319
You can make the same argument for literally anything people "want" to talk about
Which is why you need competent management to wrangle the whores in

>> No.33558239

>>33555496
We already saw veibae selfie already so...

>> No.33558759

>>33555496
Vtubing blowing up was a mistake, it just brought social-media addled attention-whores who hate the community they want to grift off of

>> No.33559215

Everyone mentioning Nyanners here, but a quick check on numberfag sites shows that she's as strong as ever and still one of the biggest vtubers on twitch. Kson definitely went down, and it's hard to talk about Nazuna because twitch rewards consistency in streaming frequency and hours, and she's anything but that.
Now, bunny_gif and bahroo are amazing examples of betraying fanbase and losing support on twitch.

>> No.33559505

>>33554996
>males collabs
>ONLY FRIEND

>> No.33559542

>>33534862
still trying to understand why unicorns think screaming "BUT WE'RE MENTALLY ILL" is some kind of uno reverse card

>> No.33559716

>>33555105
Today you will learn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

>> No.33559852

>>33559716
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
neat, but the appeal of big corpos versus indie is that they don't need supas to be their success metric. Cover does not value whales, it is not what they're attempting to achieve. Cover can piss off dedicated supa-fags as much as they desire because their business model doesn't favor them, it favors virability and things that will lead to broader marketing deals

>> No.33559919

>>33559542
Exploiting the mentally ill ("vulnerable") is literally a crime, my Discord friend.

>> No.33559988

>>33555914
Look, you have a job so surely you would understand that each job comes with pros and cons
Vtubing is a job that mostly exploits strangers online or else why the fuck strangers would throw money at vtubers? No, don't give me shit reason such as viewers donate solely because they find the vtubers entertaining, that reason is only true partially. This "entertainment" can mostly be enjoyed without spending a single dime. The truth is everyone knew that viewers are willing to throw those crazy amounts of money only because of the parasocial aspect of vtubing, it's just people are denying it. Yes, getting too invested with vtubers means you are already in a parasocial relationship with the vtubers even if there's no romantic aspect involved.
And so, as a result of this relationship, these viewers will set some expectations toward the vtubers.
In Kronii's case, Kroonies have the expectation of her not collabing with males and in the first place if Krooni didn't go through GFE path nor if she manages the expectations of her fans well like Bae (You won't see Brrats seething if Bae collab with Stars because it's clear from the start she likes HoloStars and will collab with them). Frankly speaking, the audience that she currently has is the result of her own doing. I do get that she most likely got disgusted or something similar but if she thinks treating her viewers like rags and antagonizing them as she did on Twitter is good then it's her being a retard. She could have just ignored her viewers' rant the first time they pressured her to not do male collabs but she didn't and tried to ease them by promising no more male collabs and then today change sides again by antagonizing her viewers.
In conclusion, what Kronii did is violating an invisible contract that was established between her and Kroonies.

And it's useless to flex that you have a job because I have one too. It's just I have work mode, socializing mode and schizo mode
>I come here to laugh at people like you
This is weird coming from a big loser like me, but you need to touch grass and get a better hobby
>have schizophrenic rage about your cartoon girlfriends not doing exactly what you want at all times.
This is why I dislike normalfags like you so much, you fags always think those that go against the girls' decision to collab with Stars are unicorns. I'm just a CGDCT enjoyer I don't even fap to Kronii roru she's a bit too big for my taste and if you and your fellow normalfags enjoy being treated like shit then that's on you because I don't enjoy being treated like shit like what Kronii did to Kroonies.

>> No.33560003

>>33559852
That's a lot of words without any actual source my dude and way too soon after the Nazuna being broke timeline

>> No.33560146

>>33557661
I had completely forgotten about koopa, what a retard.

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>>33535952

>> No.33560181

>>33560003
>Cover does not value whales
>Source: cover allows and encourages their talents to collab in ways that piss of whales
well that was easy

>> No.33560253

>>33559919
>exploiting
they're literally telling unicorns "I don't need your money" and telling them to fuck off, how are they exploiting them?

>> No.33560299

>>33560253
Did Kronii debut yesterday?

>> No.33560415

>>33559988
It was nice that bae establishes she liked holostars right off the bat rather than try to hide it. Anyone doing reps would know she had already expressed that during her previous job too so it is nice that she at least had the foresight to be honest about it.
Or perhaps she was just too busy trying to hide that she is a Chinese rat, though that didn’t last long.

>> No.33561140

>>33559988
I don't actually come here to bully randos, I shouldn't have said that even memeing. I have genuine interest in the subject matter of the boards I use and want cute anime and vtuber pictures. But I also get a kick out of posts like the one I replied to. People who take GFE too seriously to the point of schizoposting or literally take PRIDE in being the biggest degenerate loser they can are the ones who need to touch grass. Don't lie to yourself even for this (You). And like I've said in other dramaposting threads about this, if you think this a blow to CGDCT, just watch another vtuber ffs. Plenty of 774 or .LIVE or indie girls or countless others that "act like idols," even if you genuinely believed Hololive was tainted

>> No.33561293

>>33556661
You must have direction brain or some shit. Nothing I said implied I was an "ironic" fan

>> No.33561449

>>33561140
I hope you spend two years building a house and then have homeless people camp on your sidewalk and the city tells you to just find another house.

>> No.33561635

>>33534862
the funniest thing about all this is that idol is precisely how all these contract idols start. At least independents had to authentically grow their brand, Kronii technically just needed to win the audition and she was handed an audience on a silver platter.
It obviously takes work to not lose that audience, but the fact remains that she got a massive headstart PRECISELY because of the same """"""toxic"""""" culture that she's revolting against now

>> No.33561655

>>33561293
sure you're not "ironic", you just follow what's popular and never cared about this hobby

>> No.33561714

>>33554122
you will never be a woman.

>> No.33561739

>>33561655
Buddy my primary oshis are .LIVE girls and HimeHina. I'm not a part of whatever consolewar Niji and Holo stuff you have in your mind

>> No.33561850

>>33534862
Just like f2p video games.

>> No.33561906

>>33539323
desu kson probably has a gnarly savings account, she could 2view for the rest of her life and still outearn 99% of streamers

>> No.33562166

>>33561140
>Don't lie to yourself even for this (You).
nta but what are you even talking about,

>> No.33562259

>>33562166
He said I needed to touch grass, as if people who find the crazies amusing are the ones who need reality checks. That's not the main point of that reply

>> No.33562740

>>33542022
She didn't really do this did she?

>> No.33562849

>>33562740
No, she did it twice.

>> No.33562851

>>33562259
I mean, anon thought you were going around specifically seaching for unwell people to mock, that's something that would make me worry irl

>> No.33562933

>>33554535
Not proud of it, but it can’t be helped. The thing is, we just had completely different lives. The audience for vTubers at its core are otakus, smelly losers who never had friends, never found love, never achieved success, people who nobody ever believed in and who never could believe in anyone else. And the original idol culture was created by people like that, for people like that. And it’s NOT something that we forced on other people through pride, we just wanted to enjoy it for ourselves, we just wanted to be left alone.

But normalfags like you, and like (most of) the western vTubers, just can’t understand that. They grew up feeling validated, normal, part of the crowd, and still feel that way too. The deep feelings of loneliness and rejection never sank in over the decades. Your life experience is fundamentally different to ours and is incompatible.

It’s the same for us too. But unlike us, you people want to force your ideals and standards of what is “right” on everyone else. You want to barge in on OUR hobby that we built and claim it for yourself and change it to what you want. You want to destroy everything you don’t agree with, and that’s why I take pride in opposing you, not because I’m proud of being a loser, but because I hate the even bigger losers like you who can’t even realize you’re a loser.

>> No.33563106

>>33562740
Yes, it was one of the best instances of pottery I've ever seen on this board.

>> No.33563492

>>33534862
i unironically hate streamers so fucking much. just the sheer entitlement is insane. i know they love to call their fans entitled, while sitting on their ass making tens of thousands of dollars a month (which they mostly get from kids, students and the unemployed) just for sitting on their ass and having a cute voice. it's a fucking miracle that their "job" even exists to begin with, yet they're taking everything for granted. fuck these people. only streamers worth supporting are the ones who show genuine affection for their fans - which is incredibly rare, i know.

>> No.33563519

>>33562933
You're out of touch with reality. Vtubers were not created for smelly otaku only. All the first were corpos and normie as fuck. The biggest reference to lonely fags was Luna's christmas joke.

>> No.33563638

>>33562933
You're entirely right anon, but your words won't be heard. Male losers are the last demographic that it's socially acceptable to relentlessly shit on from every angle in western society, so they will do so gleefully in order to give themselves a sense of superiority as they drive you out. Then they will try to furiously gaslight you into believing that the hobby you have been a part of for years was never yours to begin with. There are too many examples to count, and hololive is just the latest.

>> No.33563886

>>33562933
You seem incapable of thinking outside of black-and-white extremes. You really believe anyone who doesn't think exactly like you is one of "them." The reality is different, and validation, normalcy, and rejection and everything else you mentioned are on spectrums

>> No.33564077

>>33562933
Just go for the rope, i ain't reading all this loser snobs

>> No.33564224

>>33534862
>You know sane person won't buy dakis and oppaipad right
Yes, I know. I can't wait for Gura's daki to come out.

>> No.33564355

>>33562933
Fuck you, i dont smell.

>> No.33564494

>>33561140
>But I also get a kick out of posts like the one I replied to.
>The normalfag is a shit stirrer
No wonder

>if you think this a blow to CGDCT, just watch another vtuber ffs
No, why the fuck is it always okay for normalfags to ruin our hobby just for the sake of stroking their ego and to show off their moral high ground? Why don't you normalfags fuck off? Is it not enough for normalfags to ruin anime? Because you fags think anime is the new trend, we have to bear with some of you keep going with your stupid shits of accusing lolicons as pedos, accusing the anime charas are grooming their childhood friend, protesting about JKs getting sexualized, etc. I'm fed up with you and your fellow normalfags shit.
This whole shit started because normalfags keep asking for boys group and non separation of two groups. I do not mind StarsEN as long as it will be like the JP counterpart, but homobeggars keep pestering everyone for some collabs. Yes, they even pester the talents who clearly do not have the interest to collab with males. So, it is okay for homobeggars to do that while it is not okay for "schizos" to ask the girls to not collab with the boys?
Tbf, rather than the male collabs aspect, what is very disappointing is Kronii's way of handling things
They have to remember first and foremost that their job is to entertain viewers, other things will be secondary.

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>>33535525
I'm sure that shit wouldn't come back to bite her at some point.

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>>33564494
>normalfags normalfags NORMALFAGS
Go on believing this if you want. I was into vtubers before Hololive existed. Your view of the world is simplistically tribal

>> No.33565110

>>33534862
if you're mentally ill nobody owes you anything and you should kill yourself.

>> No.33565153

I bought a daki. Should be coming in the mail today.
Not of any character, just a cute OC.

Hope it's nice to sleep with. Was probably a waste of money though.

>> No.33565164

You are angry because your hobby has been cucked away from you by normies, just like they cucked away your first crush.

It's time to find a new hobby, anon.

>> No.33565169

>>33564494
Don't be mistaken, unicorns are the one who invaded this hobby. Normies watching vtubers was perfectly fine until they became streamers and deluded faggots started thinking they should be pandered to no matter what.

>> No.33565977

>>33564979
NTA, but nobody gives a fuck about other chuubas, there have always been other chuubas that don't appeal to the same demographic as hololive. This is specifically about the change in holoEN.

>> No.33566071

>>33565169
>>33565977

>> No.33566188

>>33536350
>>33543139
>>33539323
Veibae also started streaming with Soda a couple months ago and became a couple. She really doesn't seem to give a shit if people are butthurt about Soda being there. They straight up MOCK /vt/ shitposters here.
https://youtu.be/nDPAtwc3I_I?t=44

>> No.33566515

>>33566188
thats torture. soda isnt even funny
at least with nyan aethel is actually hilarious

>> No.33566644

>>33540442
>fubuki was the biggest holo
>the face of hololive
>literally gura of hololiveJP
holy shit
also the doxxing arc didn't help her

>> No.33566820

It's the classic journey of a vtuber, pander at the start when you are a nobody and then once youve made it and your ego skyrockets you drop old viewers like a hot potato

>> No.33566993

>>33553862
Give me your mom's number

>> No.33567051

>>33534862
>pic unrelated

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>>33555556

>> No.33567445

>>33566515
Anyone dating in public a woman who made her career talking about the dicks she sucked can be considered funny. A clown, even.

>> No.33567509

>>33567445
Kek

>> No.33567525

>>33566188
This is the future you chose.

you can cope using Fubuki all day but if she did this her house would mysteriously burn down

>> No.33568123

>>33535525
Crystal Cafe is waiting for you

>> No.33568577

>don't worry, the EN stars will be just like the JP ones, they won't try to get near the girls at all
Meanwhile EN stars literally started spamming girl collabs the moment the ban was over and never decline any chance to be with them
Absolute groomers, you just know they want to play the long con and get in their panties after a year

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