/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

petition to remove kronii from the blue women group

/news/ roundup for 18-09-2022
>>33477027
Recent clip numbers
>>33463009
>>33463039
>>33463446
>>33463486

>>33522522
Fitting FGO Bunnytoria for the FGO thread.

Ruler Peko shall make FGO great again.

>>33522512
BASED last post. Unicorns eternally blown the fuck out.

* YESTERDAYS’ FINAL TALLY*
>92,264: Gura (Hololive)
>66,656: Risu (Hololive)
>40,618: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>39,915: Subaru (Hololive)
>38,919: Miko (Hololive)
>31,542: Luca (Nijisanji)
>24,822: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,850: Towa (Hololive)
>16,946: Iroha (Hololive)
>16,709: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,335: Sora (Hololive)
>15,243: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,344: Maria (Nijisanji)
>14,225: Met (774 Inc.)
>13,820: Mio (Hololive)
>13,378: Lui (Hololive)
>13,097: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,472: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,540: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,428: Watame (Hololive)
>10,899: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,885: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,781: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,653: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,331: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,282: Mio (Hololive)
>10,229: Noel (Hololive)
>10,166: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>10,089: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>>33522617
Do we still have updated versions of the Niji charts where it was divided between the male/female livers?

Rate it

>>33522693
Pekora is Mooncancer tho

There is one thing that I notice between HoloEN and NijiEN management:
From HoloEN members themselves, they have never talked about management forcing them to increase numbers. Heck, even during member streams, they complained about some management stuff but never about numbers.
On the other hand, we have seen multiple instances where NijiEN members said something about feeling pressured from management about increasing numbers, from Vox to Yugo. Man, even I feel bad about NijiEN.

This is just sad.

>>33522117
well I think it's time for anons to do rep and watching JP. Personally I don't care about the males but the brand culture is changing, some people like it, some hate it. They clearly going for a different type of audience so it's better moving on.

I took a quick 30 minute shuteye, checked twitter and woke up to everything on fire again earlier than expected, sasuga ideologues

>>33522723
>Psychiatry Side Hustle
What game is that? Psych Simulator?

>>33522801
Feels like a dying person being sustained by blood transfusions.

>>33522824
Nothing's changing unicuck, even JP collab with males all the time, Fubuki has collabed with the Stars more than HoloEN has collabed with Tempus

>>33522723
Kinda feel bad for noir
his kid and wife is kinda cute.

suisex

>>33522693
She will be a Chang'e pseudo using the body of the rabbit that created the Immortality Elixir

>>33522395
wada chuuba

>33522250
Does Yagoo even have an influence in his company in the first place?
We haven't heard anons shitting directly on Yagoo when Cover fucks up, even though he is the fucking CEO.

>>33522921
He has family fr? or you just bullshitting?

>>33523015
He's bullshitting we know nothing about Vesper's RM

>>33522896
I honestly hope that with the success of the collabs in en and how it helped stars incline will make yagoo have no other choice but to try the same tactic in jp. A korone oga peko gacha collab would be kino and bring numbers to starsjp.

>>33522801

https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1571722765576851457?s=20&t=LhH5uVCcrkSIR3HkMsRzdA
Pekora already have a partner for the upcoming stream. She enabled FBK FGO autism

Reminder male collab is not nijification. It's a common occurrence in ENSphere. Only unicuck think otherwise. Insisting on separating HoloStar and Hololive only serve to limit creativity and growth of HoloPro in the western market as evidence by their continuous decline of HoloEN

>>33522896
Didn't someone do the numbers and found that there have been more Tempus collabs in the past month than Fubuki has had star collabs the entire year?

>>33522968
Because Yagoo is like Gabe from Valve. When the company fucks up, it's always the other people, never the CEO.

>>33522801
Why are you sad? There is no need to be sad. With the power of friendship, we can still turn the world upside down.

>>33523055
>korone
>men collab
kek

>>33522801
I mean, if you noticed their schedules etc, they're likely minmaxing numbers for weeks already. Even the big collabs are floor testing rather than ceiling. NijiAU was also disappointing yesterday.

>>33513319
Sana would go fucking insane if that happens

>>33522694
They were both invited by someone else to a one on one collab? Absolutely baffling post.

Reminder that the only people sperging out about this are nijiniggers feeling threatened that hololive is also better at them at doing fun male-female collabs and desperately wishing to reverse the trend.

Ryeschizo status?

>>33523162
Late to his ritualpost
He fell off

I'm surprised none of the pro-collab HoloEN girls has been stabbed yet. In Japan, this shit always happen with idols.

>>33523081
Fake numbers unicuck, Fubuki had like 9 star collabs for the entire year while Tempus x HoloEN only had 8 this past month since the collab ban was lifted

>>33523162
Most likely larping as another schizo until he gets his chance to larp as a Rye fan again

>>33523015
yeah he has magni was the first one that was hard doxed after his mishap with his computer early on. vesper was doxed through his pl.
>>33523056
>He's bullshitting we know nothing about Vesper's RM
Anon where have you been the past couple of weeks the boys unironically put a target on their backs when one of them collabed with daph39 since she has antis from the most schizo fanbases kpop, minecraft and pokimane stans.

numbers

>>33523201
Japan is not the rest of the world. You cannot have obnoxious idol fans if there is no idol culture in the first placs.

This thread isn't very good I suggest we start over and try again

>>33523106
Haters btfo, if you aren't willing to invert reality can you really say you're a NijiEN fan?

>>33523162
Considering the rope since he caused Rye's chance of getting in EN3 go from 'maybe' to 'absolutely never'.

>>33523074
Eigo jouzu, totally-real Westerner vtuber fan

>>33523261
And we still don't know anything about Vesper besides what he has shared.

>>33523231
Are you accounting for the upcoming Kronii collab with vesper and the next two weeks of worm collabs?

Can we all agree that rust stream without big fish is not kino and generates less numbers? Big fish comeback please.

>>33523056
nta but last time i went to the nest magni had his info posted their due to his computer mishap and noir got tracked through his pl activity.

>>33523280
Not happening. homobeggars, CGDCT defenders and Unicorns are going to be fighting 24/7 thanks to Kronii, and /#/ is one of the battlegrounds.

>>33523280
>start over
For what? You can't accept losing the public opinions unicuck?

>>33523352
Anon, just check the thread, he's the retard spamming unicuck, he's just your usual retarded schizo larping as whatever he finds in catalog

There are still only 25 IPs in this 50 post thread, it's like playing samefag Among Us

ehhh i'll just wait for the NA nijifan to be converted to holo by the pro homocollab EN and Idolchads can still have their no male oshis. Just like JP.

>>33523342
vesper maybe i cant check since they moved the site 5 days ago due to kiwifags trying to get in but magni's info was already there.

>>33523369
Yes but the old man doesn't have children i know we know about his PL but never in his PL he mentioned having children, this is as dumb as trying to know if he's black or white based on his voice.

>>33523367
big fish is punching the cloud man right now.

>>33523405
I know that but I genuinely want to see what he comes up with next cause oof that's a lot of homo collabs in a monthish

>>33523074
Based. Can't wait for Gura to drop her facade and embrace what she wants to do which is collab with Tempus and her "friends"

how many members do you got to have to have the max number of emotes again?

>>33523157
Hahaha there's zero threat from Tempiss. They were born to be just leeches The Nijichad dynamic works because the men are far more popular than the women. Kobo already reclined from all the homobeggar collabs. By all means, do as many of those collabs as you can. It will only cause the girl's numbers to go down the shitter even more.

>Pekora FGO
Lmao who fucking pissed her off in the numberthreads.

>>33523483
>never in his PL he mentioned having children
he actually did

If this was in JP the homos gonna get death threats already or maybe somebody got stabbed already.

>>33523622
>comparing random guerilla streams from super-culled Kobo
Kobo still has 40k viewers watching her, retard, her popularity is just as high as ever if not higher

>>33523616
5k

>>33523461
Dude you can't drop a full spoiler post about Vesper's roommate and then when someone calls you out you just go "idk maybe it's in the rrats nest I guess but i can't find it"
This is why no one takes your posts seriously

>>33523694
Oh im just waiting for the gura collab for that to happen.

>>33523694
Western cucks love to take it. They literally get cucked by BBC all the time so they are used to it

>>33523689
3 days straight of playing wingman to ID

>>33523201
Only when they are dating. Have you mistaken unicorn with idol culture anon? You know that JP idols are collabing with men all the time right?

>>33523689
It's the other way around
Schizos were getting uppity because of her DQ numbers so she bring out the big gun today, and just for one day, to spook them a little bit

>>33523694
>Implying a burger homo is gonna get stabbed by a pasty nerd when they're probably strapped to the gills and ready to shoot

>>33523367

Gura probably gonna get bored this season like most old timers.
Though I think this event battle the JP's are doing would be great for Gura also I would love a Haachama + Gura.

>>33523616
5k

>>33523785
Mutt’s law

>>33523369
I thought the computer mishap didn't show anything new

>>33523367
Big Fish was kino last season. Why isn't she coming back?

I feel like vtuber culture is one prophet away from turning into Islam

OH NONONONONONONONONONONONO BROOOOSSS
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1571727564833705984

The unicuck homobeggar fighting is so tiring.
For me, anybody can say on which direction a chuuba should have, but they should back it up with numbers that matter, and the only numbers that matter is OKANE. And a chuuba should have filtered potential fans that he/she does not want to have as early as possible to prevent being choked as time passes.

>>33523731
Not my fault that you cant do you reps but if you actually followed the drama even daph39 said that someone already doxxed the boys and that she was afraid they might threated her and their family if she collabed further.
You are honestly naive if you think there arent people who are schizo and crazy enough to track down the boys.

NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN

>>33523998

>>33523694
roru, rumao even
Let's be real, most unicucks have twigs for arm and either severely malnourished or could give fungus a ran for his money.

>>33523958
beggar bros.. it's over...

>>33523622
Kobo low number are because of cull and shit game choice
Male collab didn't destroy her number, in fact, they made her even more popular
Soon enough, she will return with 10K+ stream consistently to shut your unicuck mouth up

>>33523908
It showed a part of his first name i think half of it iirc.

>>33523958
Twa is a brony? You guys told me he was based? So much for your purple devil brotuber

>>33524043
>2 injections
It's like they are trying to keep a near dead person alive for as long as possible

>>33524043
Poor Aia receiving blood transfusion but the bleeding never stops.

>>33524045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5g5GrKGdSY

The only reason why I'm pissed at the Kronii Collab is that they're fucking over Fauna for no reason. Literally neither of their timeslots and they're invading it for no fucking reason

>>33523961
Unicorns are fighting a losing battle. All of the collabs with Tempus have done really good numbers and most everybody have really enjoyed them. Eventually the unicorns are going to have to accept that they are a very vocal minority and that most people don't give shit about the collabs.

>>33524054
I thought unicucks have the body of Fungus.

Everyone keeps talking about Aia...
but at least she's getting raids, Scarle is fucking drowning right now

>>33524172
Who cares about fauna

https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1571727564833705984
what did she mean by this?

>>33523785
Anon, stop talking about nigger dick, no one else has you fucking porn-brained faggot.

>>33524201
Oof, so much for family.

>>33524209
Have you seen Kronii's numbers lately
People seem to care about Fauna more

>iLuna general
Ok Nijifriend what happened now? Did iLuna got kicked out of /nijien/?

>>33524137
Nah the site she is accusing of here isnt the same site but i would not doubt that they have a huge crossover or people on both sites.

>>33524241

>>33523132
Now I want it to happen. Even more, for Ina to draw the servant as a fuck you.

>>33524201
They're choking out Scarle because of her perceived closeness with Tempus... Paul she doesn't deserve this, even with the model mismatch, accent mismatch, streaming style mismatch, the person behind Scarle is still just a human with feelings, dreams and aspirations.

https://twitter.com/DomoKunClipper/status/1571334966369472513

>>33524232
Tower is Niji adjacent.

>>33524270
What numbers? Kronii has TWO (2) streams this month

>>33523760

The Homos are doxxed already I wouldn't dismissed a shooting if that happens lol.

>>33524328
Really? I thought I saw Ren or Kyo more in Tempus chat these days.

>>33524137
This still doesn't reveal anything about "Tracking down the boys" when all the information they have is the same as in debut.

>>33523694
Remember Lamy misread someone's Kanji name as Kenmochi and yukimin already complained on 5ch. Oversea fans are tame, they won't dare to do anything, maybe just moving to other girls or quit the hobby.

>>33523961
I'm just curious that Kronii throws away her solo streams just like that, even other girls from EN/ID/JP that collabs with males still prioritize their solo streams first.

>>33524054
I know like two recruits that arr unicorns and they are really fit.

>>33524289
numbers too low

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1g3rkwKrhI

Orca my beloved

Orca zatsu 10k get

>>33524201
Hehe, Family. Am I rite?

>>33524365
Anon, that's not a pony.

>>33524412
I mean the fact that she knows that they can get the boys means that she knows they've been doxxed her kind also frequent those sites.

>>33524183
They've all done super meh numbers anon. Not a single one has broken 20k mind you
Post how great their numbers are when they can beat the girls randomly guessing urban dictionary words kek

Orca taking a nap mais stream

>>33524481
Seems like Chloe is getting back into the groove of things after all the shit she has had to deal with (grandma death, ghosts). I'm glad this loveable cute retard is back.

>>33524136
I don't watch her but seeing her numbers makes me feel really bad because her drawing style is pretty good

>>33524418

I agree this is why both parties are afraid.

Who's down to colab with males:
>Mori
>Bae
>Ame
>Kronii
Not yet but soon:
>Ina
>Mumei
>Irys
Long shot but we will get there eventually:
>Gura
>Fauna
Final boss:
>Kiara

Does Kronii even pull numbers to be relevant here

>>33524412
anon she literally said that she fears not for herself but her family and the people who she worked with and as a twitch dramafag she knows whats there.
you also assume that they are gonna target the boys directly when in fact their barons might also be a very juicy target seeing as how even people here were able to see them.

>>33524481
I got a gifted membership
hehe

>>33524619
Gura is the final boss retardo
Actually it'd be more like Kiara is the final boss and Gura is the second phase

>>33524581
ACCELERATE BABY

>>33524552 (me)
Mid*

>>33524418
>5ch
Come on man, that's nothing.
Look at waht happened to NijiEN during Reimu yab.
These days, it's the opposite, JP unicorns are not what they used to be.

>>33524513
>her kind
Anon she's a retarded normalfag and a streamer. She's not spending her days on doxx sites like a schizophrenic. Also you're taking her words at face value and not assuming she isn't over exaggerating at all. For all she knows they could "get the boys" using just their names

>>33524680
nah gura will fall before chicken screencap this

>>33524732
Gura can't even Collab with JP members.

>>33524732
None of them will

>>33524715
>Anon she's a retarded normalfag and a streamer. She's not spending her days on doxx sites like a schizophrenic
anon i used to follow these people back then and they unironically do spend days in doxx sites since they like to get dirt on someone or even giving dirt on someone.

>>33524732
Screencap that yourself, retard.

>more collabs with the homos in a single month than Fauna an entire year

Bruh, just saw Chloe jumping from 9k while sleeping to 11k when she did a noise. Is this the tab thing that I saw mentioned here before?

>>33524619
>mumei
https://youtu.be/XFpv8TTYEdg

fyi, one cute retard literally doing nothing (she was napping, without moving or saying anything) and looping a 4 secs gif of her swimming in the air would have won cripple gold today
JP is on a different level

This talk about doxxing is boring me already, call me when something actually happens and not just some anon's fanfiction.

>>33524863
Aruran and Oga have a negative male point value, so it equals to zero males on tream

>>33524732
Gura won't even log onto her corpo Discord, you honestly believe she'd get into a Tempus Collab? Feel free to grudgepost me. In fact grudgepost me if she does more than 3 one-on-one collabs OFF her channel by year's end

>>33524894
>some anon's fanfiction.
Remember mito's stalker was once fanfiction as well.

>>33524619
You people are utterly repellant. This is why letting homobeggars be welcome is always a mistake, regardless of your stance on male collabs.

Updating
1.7k waiting room, 5 hours left, 4k likes already

JWU and saw the schedule.
I was joking when I said "Kronii needs to consult her mental state problem to someone like Vesper" on Tempus debut because she has daddy issue.
Anyway what is # CCV prediction for this collab?

>>33524850
Could be. That sudden jump was strange.

>>33524894
Anon, did you see Chloe is being a cute retard o. Stream?

>>33524847
This isn't true though. If you're only going to count 1 on 1's with Fauna, who she's done PLENTY of group collabs with, you should only coir 1 on 1's with the homos. And this will be the first.

>>33524964
>by year's end
why by year's end? i said it's a long shot but will eventually happen

>>33524659
>when in fact their barons might also be a very juicy target
Actually thats a very scary route if they actually do it.

>GTA 6 leak ISREAL
Will Rockstar put Miko reference in their game?

Bunch of long time Kronies are leaving, let's see if today marks a turning point in Kronii's decline.

>>33525014
Whose waiting room?

>>33525055
I wonder if they will even put nigga in it

>>33524619
gura doesn't even followed or mentioned any of them yet, unlike Kiara

>>33525020
Isn't that a Z? So the cause of Z is actually ghost? Are NijiEN's talents haunted?

>>33525034
Count*

let's play a game, /#/. can you guess the holomem based on their mouth shape? here's an easy one

>>33525068
https://youtu.be/NSeTUJyAC3Y

>>33525020
kek

>>33525068
peko

>>33525068
Pekora's
Also the pre-chat is the grayest I ever seen from Peko, this stream really attract load of tourist

>>33525123
Koone

>>33525049
and also a very smart one since targeting the oil barons will also result in a fallout in jpstars as well seeing as how they almost share the same barons.

>>33525125
120K prediction
>ALL BALLS IN!!!

>>33525123
Selen

>>33525145
what about this one

>>33525238
danchou

>>33525238
Noel

>>33525123
What about this? Can you guess the vtuber?

>>33525271
There is nothing virtual about nightmares

>>33525034
well you are right but yeah when collab again with Fauna..?

>>33525271
SUPER
>>33525253
>>33525255

>>33525271
Hold on!!!

>>33525370
My friend, Lap

>>33525173
Let's just keep our expectation low, I will start with 30k

>>33525413
you're pretty good

>>33525423
Thats her normal CCV, this is a Bery Big Buff Content and its Pego of all people

>>33525461
Neneti

>>33525423
My fingers slipped. I meant sub 30k.

>>33525461
nenechi

>>33525123
That's Doog. What about this vtuber? She is a non-holo but still.

>>33525370
This is the only super I will acknowledge >>33525461

>>33525461
Nene

>>33523201
Stop getting your entire understanding of shit from that one girl who shaved her head.

>>33525173
48k - 58k
Feeling a blueball number in that bracket

>>33525461
https://streamable.com/svvwrp

>>33525616
Nta but the shaved head girl isn't even the one anon is probably referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Mayu_Tomita

>>33523055
why not fubuki and oga collab? fubuki is more famous than korone and peko

>>33525018
>16k - 17k
male - female interaction and drama are buff

I'm running out of mouths that are easy to identify

>Pekora shilling her Fate watchalong.
Is that a restream perm? That would be disgustingly huge if it is.

>>33525522
You mean not yet holo?

>>33525625
There's load of debuffs in early stages of FGO, the real meat is wayyyyyyyyy later on into the story
Depend on players progression it might take months to get to the actual good stuffs later

>>33525018
I cannot believe it became a reality. kek

>>33525271
FUCK YOU
STOP LIVING RENT FREE IN MY HEAD
I HATE IT

>>33525746
To show the unicorns that they have no place in hololive and to give the boys more exposure seeing as how pekora is one of the talents with high ccv.

>>33525786
Ayame. This one was the easiest

>>33524431
Hasn't Kronii specifically said that she likes collabs because she finds them less stressful? She's also well known for not streaming her POV in groups where everyone else is doing so for this same reason.

>>33525786
OJOU AISHITE

/#/s on how many civvies the orca just merc'd?

>>33525804
Do you beleib?

>>33525018
14k-15k

>>33525746
fuck you for making me read that retarded post. i successfully skipped it over and you had me go back and read that absolute retarded bait you dumb double nigger

>>33525835

https://youtu.be/VEI2ONcM--Y
Angory tom, from Yogscast has played Holocure multiple times. That's some reach

>>33525877
>>33525763
You people are retarded. Look at the fucking timeslot and there will be overlap.

60k for peko?

>>33525913
qrd on this guy?

funny thread

>>33525746
Pekora is more famous than Fubuki.

>>33525838
some of them are really hard since they look kind of generic. I'm picking out ones that have more unique features so that it is easy to guess

>>33525938
Sub 30k stream

>>33525964
Yogscast executive producer. He is also a streamer and is behind some of their biggest events

>>33525938
90k - 110k

>>33526014
this is serious business fuck off

OK Cover, let's get EN3 out. I'm fucking tired of waiting. Stop delaying for Omega, his boys have had more than enough exposure and are getting multiple weekly collabs from half of HoloEN so it's all in their court now.

>>33524946
cope

I cannot really predict Peko's numbers, but if she flatlines early, then 42k minimum.

>>33526010
My russian hagwife

>>33526010
Button

>>33525020
let's see wtf is going on on that stre-

Chloe stream is interesting
13k just for shitposts with her model

>>33526175
Kek

>>33525926
Kronii drama has built up. I will not take anything less than 15k for this collab

>>33526058
They need to find a replacement for Rye so it's gonna be delayed again

>>33526175
Hey, that's me

>>33526058
The only thing you'll get is StarsEN 2. They already have some who got in and just finding the others.

>>33526105
>>33526125
you guys are too good.
this one I think it's quite challenging

>>33526195
>>33526175
Pretty soulful

>>33526175
>>33526195
based

>>33526175
>>33526195
is this what ghosts do to your mental health?
I like it

>>33526241
Foobs?

>>33526241
Friend

Difficulty: Nightmare mode

>>33526255
>Ghost
No this is what happened when you overlap Pekora's big return. She is now permanently schizophrenic

>>33526361
Lamy

>>33526298
>>33526337
yup. I personally think Fubuki has a pretty generic-looking mouth.

>>33526361
Christmas Festival

>>33526361
Gura

>>33526298
>>33526337
NTA. Try to guess this. Hardcore.

>>33526361
Not Ramy

>>33526397
Miko? Fubuki's mouth kinda disappeares in the middle

>>33526397
Her flat spaced out look is pretty defining imo

>>33526428
Nanora

>>33526384
It was the fucking monkey anon.

>>33526397
Iconic.

How about this?

>>33526458
>Nanora
Wrong!

>>33526428
Da baby

>>33526471
Kiara

>>33526428
that's hard. Luna?
>>33526361
Christmas Nene?

Somebody force this orca to take her meds

>>33526507
>>33526491
Wrong! see this >>33526485

>>33526438
>>33526401
>>33526393
>>33526403
>>33526507
1/5 got it, literally nightmare mode, told ya

>>33526485
This doesn't look very mating pressable

>>33526551
I'm so fucking happy that I'm finally the last chumbud.

I'm scared looking at Pekora waiting room.
Is this mega event stream?

>>33526554
not with that attitude

>>33526515
It's better this way

>>33526551
I said not Ramy... my guess was right too...

>>33526515
Nah, more ghost stories in her head is even better

I'll do a couple more since I don't want to spam this thread too much. I should take it to the catalog in the future

>>33526058
they all gonna collab with tempus tho

>>33526567
Well it is the top trending "Gaming" event on JP Twitter right now
It's a Japanese thing

>>33526507
I promise you. This is hard.

>Kroniis gachikois actually going for the boys oil baronesses.
Most influential thread really isnt a meme huh.

>>33526640
Captain marine

>>33526640
Lui?

>>33526640
Marine
>>33526695
Gozaru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PeYmbEIXXQ
Why is this Moona dancing clip gaining so many views?

>>33526567
Hell Fucking Yes Anon!!!
Its already trending on twitter means JPNormies are preparing to crash PegoStream

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1571740877793394688
Another great mindshare, collab with JP top model

>Ayame already stopped streaming again
why...

>>33526738
it's Marine
>>33526734
>>33526740
correct

>>33526742
Sex sells

>>33526726
I get being upset I guess, I mean I think it's a little stupid to freak out for hours instead of just leaving when you're not having fun anymore.
But a harassment campaign against totally normal civilians just sounds like it'll end in indictments

>>33526740
>Gozaru
Nope. That one is hard. Even I cannot answer it if I don't know.

>>33526742
Uses a song from a home-grown Indonesian meme it looks like, funny clip is short and funny

>>33526759
It's on the Fanclub, so ehhhhhh

>>33526695
the blush makes me think Anya

>>33526726
wait what please tell this is a joke
whoever goes after fans is mentally deranged
im disgusted if true

>>33526695
treerat

>>33526864
man, I want it to be true so we can see some murder

>>33526923
only if the murdered are unicucks

>>33526788
>end in indictments
thats only if they are on the same country.
>>33526864
I was reading the thread before some replies got pruned and it seems like they are retaliating by going for the most damage.
If this does actually happen the fallout might actually be bigger than the last one.

>>33526726
That's stupid af. Idiots, the lot of them. Not a fan of the collabs, but to go and target people not involved like this is disgusting.

>>33526923
The one oil baronness has had her insta linked /here/ so I believe it. All it takes is one schizo anti and I feel confident at least one of them are mind broken enough at this point to go after her

>>33526864
clam down sister, they're obviously not serious

>>33526987
This is so going to be fun, but Tempus oil baroness will not be able to match the number of fans Kronii has.

>>33526864
Im not sure if they are serious or not but i would not put it pass kroniis gachis which are also unhinged to pull of this kind of stuff.

>>33527018
Kek, it's not like those Tempus fans can do anything since unicorn Kronies probably outnumber them a lot.

>>33526987
maaaan i feel sorry for kronii. having some retarded psychos latch to your content must feel tough. she never even pandered to cucks so why are they sperging out?

>>33526726
>have been falseflagging as homobeggar to stir conflict among holofags on this thread
Maybe i should stop

>>33527112
See, this is kind of question is how I know you're not a member of hers.

>>33527151
she doesnt pander to you in her members. take your meds.

>>33527112
>she never even pandered
lol

>>33527018
I'm shocked that Tempus fans would do that to their own just to try to pin it on unicorns.

If a HoloEN ends up killing a StarsEN fan, it might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Yagoo will have to fold the branch.

>>33527080
I don't think anything will really happen, people talk a lot of shit.
But Kronii's fanbase is such a fucking mess. I hate to blame her for it but she has always had a really weird culture with her regulars and paypigs. Too much individual attention, too much parasocial stuff both ways. It's important to keep a distance and stay professional even if someone is giving you $500 every stream.
Especially because that amount of money won't mean fucking anything to the talent after about a year compared to the real revenue streams Holos get, but those people will still be around and expect to be pandered to.

>>33527186
Not even kill just harass to the point that it becomes a legal issue. Would honestly be a huge blow to cover if it were to escalate that far.

>>33526695
>>33526771
I NEED ANSWERS, WHO ARE THESE FROM?

https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1571744796817100801
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1571744796817100801

>>33527112
Kronii has handled this entire situation as awfully as possible. She unironically probably would have been fine if she just ignored everything from the get go but doing a members stream and going so far as to make promises to your gachi members is completely retarded. Then going back on some of those promises immediately after is even more brain dead. I obviously don't want random donators getting harassed but I have very little sympathy for Kronii in this situation
Management told her to ignore everything but she wanted to handle it personally and she's done a terrible job of it

>>33527236
lol, she's handled this so poorly

>>33527186
>Yagoo will have to fold the branch.
so en will be males only?

>>33527236
welp that just only lit the fire even more so i guess some of them might actually retaliate with the boys fans.

>>33527236
damn, I'm so sorry kronies

>>33527186
Yagoo would just wait for the perpetrator to be revealed as a Nijifan.

>>33527236
Should've just gone with this stance at the start if that's what you wanted, you retarded clock. Playing these stupid games with your fanbase just fans drama both ways.

>>33527236
She's legit retarded

>>33527235
I'm not that anon, sorry. I also include a nose because it makes it easier

>>33527186
Kek, JP and ID is good enough for me anyway

>>33527236
A HA HA HA HA KRONIES BTFO

>>33527236
AHAHAHAHAH, oh man.

>>33527261
yeah kronii's content in general lacked direction from the get go. seems like she isnt ready to be a streamer
we might get a Sana 2.0 from this actually. depends on kronii's wallet though. cause sana could afford that. i dont know about kronii

>>33527216
>I don't think anything will really happen, people talk a lot of shit.
Anon i think with this tweet >>33527236 she just incited her ex fan antis even more. And remember ex fan antis are the worse kind of antis you can get.

>>33527236
Is she graduating? She can't collab with whoever she wants in Hololive.

>>33527236
Maybe kronii should take another break if she’s going to be this retarded
Preferably a month or two

>>33527236
Lol the passive agressiveness tone

>>33527236
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>33527236
BASED.
>>33527433
MEDS

>>33527236
Should have said this from the start, but better late than never. Once more into the breach, hopefully this will be the last one for a while.

>>33527327
You think fans harassing another fans wont spread to jp and id especially when people including antis know that its an effective tactic to close a branch?

>>33527261
>Management told her to ignore everything but she wanted to handle it personally and she's done a terrible job of it
Rushia....

https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745933754503168
Another retard joins the battle

To all Kronii fans:
Take your goddamn meds.

seems like even management got involved
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745933754503168
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745936111710210

>>33527433
This, and the lack of professionalism in how she's handled all of this, will kill her more than simply collabing with Tempus will in the long run.

PROTIP FOR ANY FUTURE HOLOEN TALENTS: STRAIGHT FROM THE GETGO, BE CLEAR IF YOU WILL COLLAB WITH DUDES OR NOT. No one gives two shits about Bae collabing with stars for this reason.

Why does Youtube keep recommending me NijiEN shit even if I click "Not interested" or "Do not recommend"

>>33527236
You know what? I wonder if this tweet came because her unicucks being whiny on the comment section after it was revelaed that she's gonna participate in Worms collab?

>>33527513
AHAHAHAHA jesus christ. some JP will build a collab wall against EN soon.

>>33527236
Didn't watch her outside of Council collabs and clips before

But now: I'll watch her collabs, the solo content that appears entertaining and will furiously RBI all the schizos who are undoubtedly gonna try to RLviolence threaten and suicidebait to get their way

bet she wished she listened to management in the first place now lol

>>33527513
Dear fucking god EN looks like an actual clown show next to JP

>>33527572
Shit happens to me too, maybe watching some clips trigger that?

>>33527513
>giving attention to the drama
holly fucking retard, shut the fuck up and just do the collab, they learnt nothing from JP

>>33527572
They're trying to help you out

>>33527236
>took a break for two weeks
>schizos died down
>one of her very first Tweet since coming back is this
Even Ame handled it better than Kronii HAHAHA

>>33527461
Hoping she just doesn't address it in general, hire a mod and deal with whatever wave of angry unicorns that come her way and just stream with whoever she wants to stream and play with whoever she wants to play with, giving any kind of legitimate control to her own fans, specially the ones that go crazy on you when they see you interacting with your co-workers is just asking for a Rushia 2.0 situation

>>33527535
jesas

>>33527513
>>33527535
How many meetings have they had about this the past week
What a stupid mess. Management gets a lot of blame here. These problems could have been anticipated. They could have gotten ahead of this scenario and set proper expectations. Fucking incompetence.

>>33527535
Okay, looks like kronies did something bad to warrant this kind of rebuke.
Good on management, kronies are the worst.

>>33527572
It's been happening to me too, I guess it's because Tempus shares HoloEN and NijiEN viewers and the algo is mixing both of them in the recommendations (I don't even watch Tempus)

Yagoo, for the love of god, please get rid of HoloEN already. Let those wanting to play with males go their own way while the remaining girls can join HoloJP as special foreign members.

>>33527535
>>33527513
Fucking hell, just graduate all of EN management, this is disgraceful to even get involved.

>>33527642
I dont even watch NijiEN clips - heck I always report them for sexual content whenever I get recommended one

>>33527513
What a shitshow lmao, fucking sidebranch

>>33527513
>management trying to stoke the fires even more
So the chances of her gachis attacking stars gachis just increase tenfold at this point.

>>33527704
Coco was a mistake....
Vtubing should have been stay JP excusively

>>33527513
>>33527535
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>33527679
The problems were anticipated and they told her what to do. She ignored them.

>>33527513
EN management continues to be fucking retarded.
Blocks a live for half a fucking year, but immediately jumps on drama

>>33527535
Not feeding the schizos is a good way to start, Omega. You dumb fuck

>>33527709
What? Did you somehow missed the Holo JP management tweet about Rushia?
This is pretty tame all things considered

>>33524710
>JP unicorns are not what they used to be.
only because the JP girls keep the fanbase happy and avoid yabs, and don't break their fans' expectations out of spite of all things.
JP gachis (not unicorns btw, they are imaginary creatures) will fuck up both their own chuuba as well as those they interact with if they get crossed.

>>33527658
Do you think it'd be better if she put this before the break?

Okay, it might have been shitposts, but the rrat about HoloEN3 not coming might be true after all.
I can't expect them to debut HoloEN3 when this shitshow is still around.

>>33527712
There's was a algorithm change, sometimes you'll get 2 views, indies, vshojo or niji recommend to you randomly

Did you like it?

>>33527513
>>33527535
>khyo in the comments
Prepare for another dramabait clip from this fag

>>33527506
If you isolate the incident to just "the male issue" and ignore the part where Rushia was trying to leak stuff to dramatubers, I'd say Kronii has handled it worse. She went from trying to compromise with her members to becoming Mori in the span of two weeks, that sort of whiplash will split her fanbase apart.

>>33527662
Problem is that some of her fans have decided to target tempus fans which is might turn into another shitshow.

>>33527770
She needed coaching and advice before the male collab stuff started, not in the aftermath. She was confused about why her fans even had a problem at first

I only care about numbers here. If kronii gets good numbers in homo collab then I think its all good.

>>33527799
Retard, Suityan-Bessan collab happened this year. She literally said she won't pander to gachis ever as a result of unicuck hoshiyomis whine.

>>33527885
She hasn't even streamed any of these colllabs LMAO

why are people blaming management for this?
>tells Kronii what to say
OMG, THEY ARE FUCKING SO CONTROLLING. WHERE'S THE FREEDOM
>doesn't do anything about it
WHERE'S MANAGEMENT? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HELP THE GIRLS!!!

>>33527885

>>33527819
actually it's very entertaining for me
I did my rep enough to understand JP streams, now I'm chilling here

>>33527823
I posted that before >>33527535
Now I know that both Kronii AND the management is retarded.
Well not as retarded as Rushia, but still retarded

>>33527679
They literally have Gura as a model in their own fucking branch, I can't believe how stupid these '''managers''' are. #1 rule is IGNORE. Now this will be on the catalog for days and every drama channel would feast on this shit

>>33527871
But Council isn't even the first non-JP gen, she literally has ready examples of how to (or not to) set expectations from Myth and ID.

What went wrong ENbros?

>>33527940
Remember, unicorn is a brain disease.

Do you guys think Mori feels bad?

>>33527885
Unfortunately, I can't see any possible way for her number to not get cratered after all this pisspoor handling. At best she'll experience a Mori level drop, and she never had anywhere near Mori's peak to begin with

>>33527770
>The problems were anticipated and they told her what to do. She ignored them.
What did they tell her?
>Your fanbase is extremely schizo, don't upset them

>>33527885
Eh it's going to be the veibie/manjisanji effect. Soda gets extra numbers if Vei appears in his stream, but vei remains a hardstuck sub 10k bitch.

I hope Kronii graduates from Holo as a result of this.
Shit has been boring lately - it's been a while since we've had actual drama

>>33527971
Thats what the manager told kronii retard. She just ignore it.

>>33527885
Just from a numbers perspective, I really wanna see if her numbers drop off or stay the same in the long run over all of this mess. Oftentimes it's not just the issue itself, but how one handles it that fucks up their numbers, and Kronii looks like she's handled this pretty poorly overall (and that usually means a drop in numbers in the long run).

they're actually going to can the EN branch aren't they? that's why Gura has been sucking up to JP so much...

>>33527997
Expecting a talent to watch other Hololive talents for examples is actually pretty fucking stupid. Yeah, some of them do it, but some of them clearly do not.
Clear communication and planning is key. Management shouldn't expect the talents to know all this stuff from osmosis just because a subset of them do

Reminder that anyone using 'unicorns' or 'unicucks' unironically instead of the proper terms (goslings/gachikoi) is a twitterfag trying to prop up a strawman.
Don't fall for it.

>>33527971
To be fair, the rrat of Tempus doxx is too big to ignore and would potentially damages Hololive brand in the future.

>>33527871
She needed therapy before even becoming a vtuber

Ah shit i just realized that most of the boys baroness dont have any opsec based on what happened last time.

>>33527997
Unfortunately she's too dumb for that. I get that part of the idol's journey is learning, improving and discovering what kind of streamer you're going to be, but when you're on Holo level you really need to figure out how to set expectations from the start and I don't think Kronii is smart enough for that

>>33527513
This confirms it. HoloEN is dead

>>33528053
''ignore'' by making a Tweet about it? Nice job ignoring schizo

>>33528005
Dumb menhera clock tick-tock'd and now drama channels shall feast.

>>33527513
Is this an attempt by management to get numbers by causing drama? I think some people on twitch roll that meta.

>>33527535
Wow staying silent about Gura live but suddenly come out to be vocal about male collab

>>33528014
being a unicorn is retarded to begin but let's not pretend Kronii is doing a poor job handling this. she wants to have her cake and eat it too. just stick with one side. compromising leaves no one happy and makes the situation way worse. you either go Bae/Mori or Gura/Fauna/IRyS

>>33528107
I won't respect your pronouns, unicuck

>Gura finally gives HoloEN branch a rare W after months of being mocked as a shit branch.
>HoloEN just ruins it with this bullshit.
Jesus christ, that fucking sucks.

>>33528107
unicorns = goslings ≠ gachikoi

Someone is going to get fucking murdered for this, since I've seen some unhinged replies on Kronii's twitter.

>>33528005
I'm sorry...
it's still not too late to start doing my reps right...

If the kronies really will go through with their plan to harass the tempus paypigs, can the tempus paypigs actually try to sue them for harassment or is this pretty complicated considering it’s both online and likely from another country?

Nanikore?

>>33527535
>We would like to remind the community to refrain from attacking any of our talents
But what did they do? I didn't really follow the drama that closely, neither did I catch anything particularly bad on the catalog.

>>33524418
>俺気づいたんだけど
>ホロライブ辞めた人らはまとめサイトで誹謗中傷の記事だらけ
>にじさんじ辞めた人らはまとめサイトでまとめられてない

>ホロライブのファンって怖いね
Holofags are scary man

ETA on either Kronii or Vesper graduation? Better yet Termination?

>>33528057
Honestly I don't see any way for her to recover except to shut up, keep her head down, go all in with collabing with boys and try to salvage the pieces. Anything else coming from her would just make it worse at this point.

>>33528203
OA