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petition to remove kronii from the blue women group
/news/ roundup for 18-09-2022 >>33477027Recent clip numbers>>33463009>>33463039>>33463446>>33463486
>>33522522Fitting FGO Bunnytoria for the FGO thread.
Ruler Peko shall make FGO great again.
>>33522512BASED last post. Unicorns eternally blown the fuck out.
* YESTERDAYS’ FINAL TALLY*>92,264: Gura (Hololive)>66,656: Risu (Hololive)>40,618: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>39,915: Subaru (Hololive)>38,919: Miko (Hololive)>31,542: Luca (Nijisanji)>24,822: Pekora (Hololive)>17,850: Towa (Hololive)>16,946: Iroha (Hololive)>16,709: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>15,335: Sora (Hololive)>15,243: Salome (Nijisanji)>14,344: Maria (Nijisanji)>14,225: Met (774 Inc.)>13,820: Mio (Hololive)>13,378: Lui (Hololive)>13,097: Lauren (Nijisanji)>12,472: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,540: Haachama (Hololive)>11,428: Watame (Hololive)>10,899: Kanata (Hololive)>10,885: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>10,781: Fauna (Hololive)>10,653: Okayu (Hololive)>10,331: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,282: Mio (Hololive)>10,229: Noel (Hololive)>10,166: Pomu (Nijisanji)>10,089: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>>33522617Do we still have updated versions of the Niji charts where it was divided between the male/female livers?
Rate it
>>33522693Pekora is Mooncancer tho
There is one thing that I notice between HoloEN and NijiEN management:From HoloEN members themselves, they have never talked about management forcing them to increase numbers. Heck, even during member streams, they complained about some management stuff but never about numbers.On the other hand, we have seen multiple instances where NijiEN members said something about feeling pressured from management about increasing numbers, from Vox to Yugo. Man, even I feel bad about NijiEN.
This is just sad.
>>33522117well I think it's time for anons to do rep and watching JP. Personally I don't care about the males but the brand culture is changing, some people like it, some hate it. They clearly going for a different type of audience so it's better moving on.
I took a quick 30 minute shuteye, checked twitter and woke up to everything on fire again earlier than expected, sasuga ideologues
>>33522723>Psychiatry Side HustleWhat game is that? Psych Simulator?
>>33522801Feels like a dying person being sustained by blood transfusions.
>>33522824Nothing's changing unicuck, even JP collab with males all the time, Fubuki has collabed with the Stars more than HoloEN has collabed with Tempus
>>33522723Kinda feel bad for noirhis kid and wife is kinda cute.
suisex
>>33522693She will be a Chang'e pseudo using the body of the rabbit that created the Immortality Elixir
>>33522395wada chuuba
>33522250Does Yagoo even have an influence in his company in the first place?We haven't heard anons shitting directly on Yagoo when Cover fucks up, even though he is the fucking CEO.
>>33522921He has family fr? or you just bullshitting?
>>33523015He's bullshitting we know nothing about Vesper's RM
>>33522896I honestly hope that with the success of the collabs in en and how it helped stars incline will make yagoo have no other choice but to try the same tactic in jp. A korone oga peko gacha collab would be kino and bring numbers to starsjp.
>>33522801
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1571722765576851457?s=20&t=LhH5uVCcrkSIR3HkMsRzdAPekora already have a partner for the upcoming stream. She enabled FBK FGO autism
Reminder male collab is not nijification. It's a common occurrence in ENSphere. Only unicuck think otherwise. Insisting on separating HoloStar and Hololive only serve to limit creativity and growth of HoloPro in the western market as evidence by their continuous decline of HoloEN
>>33522896Didn't someone do the numbers and found that there have been more Tempus collabs in the past month than Fubuki has had star collabs the entire year?
>>33522968Because Yagoo is like Gabe from Valve. When the company fucks up, it's always the other people, never the CEO.
>>33522801Why are you sad? There is no need to be sad. With the power of friendship, we can still turn the world upside down.
>>33523055>korone>men collabkek
>>33522801I mean, if you noticed their schedules etc, they're likely minmaxing numbers for weeks already. Even the big collabs are floor testing rather than ceiling. NijiAU was also disappointing yesterday.
>>33513319Sana would go fucking insane if that happens
>>33522694They were both invited by someone else to a one on one collab? Absolutely baffling post.
Reminder that the only people sperging out about this are nijiniggers feeling threatened that hololive is also better at them at doing fun male-female collabs and desperately wishing to reverse the trend.
Ryeschizo status?
>>33523162Late to his ritualpostHe fell off
I'm surprised none of the pro-collab HoloEN girls has been stabbed yet. In Japan, this shit always happen with idols.
>>33523081Fake numbers unicuck, Fubuki had like 9 star collabs for the entire year while Tempus x HoloEN only had 8 this past month since the collab ban was lifted
>>33523162Most likely larping as another schizo until he gets his chance to larp as a Rye fan again
>>33523015yeah he has magni was the first one that was hard doxed after his mishap with his computer early on. vesper was doxed through his pl.>>33523056>He's bullshitting we know nothing about Vesper's RMAnon where have you been the past couple of weeks the boys unironically put a target on their backs when one of them collabed with daph39 since she has antis from the most schizo fanbases kpop, minecraft and pokimane stans.
numbers
>>33523201Japan is not the rest of the world. You cannot have obnoxious idol fans if there is no idol culture in the first placs.
This thread isn't very good I suggest we start over and try again
>>33523106Haters btfo, if you aren't willing to invert reality can you really say you're a NijiEN fan?
>>33523162Considering the rope since he caused Rye's chance of getting in EN3 go from 'maybe' to 'absolutely never'.
>>33523074Eigo jouzu, totally-real Westerner vtuber fan
>>33523261And we still don't know anything about Vesper besides what he has shared.
>>33523231Are you accounting for the upcoming Kronii collab with vesper and the next two weeks of worm collabs?
Can we all agree that rust stream without big fish is not kino and generates less numbers? Big fish comeback please.
>>33523056nta but last time i went to the nest magni had his info posted their due to his computer mishap and noir got tracked through his pl activity.
>>33523280Not happening. homobeggars, CGDCT defenders and Unicorns are going to be fighting 24/7 thanks to Kronii, and /#/ is one of the battlegrounds.
>>33523280>start overFor what? You can't accept losing the public opinions unicuck?
>>33523352Anon, just check the thread, he's the retard spamming unicuck, he's just your usual retarded schizo larping as whatever he finds in catalog
There are still only 25 IPs in this 50 post thread, it's like playing samefag Among Us
ehhh i'll just wait for the NA nijifan to be converted to holo by the pro homocollab EN and Idolchads can still have their no male oshis. Just like JP.
>>33523342vesper maybe i cant check since they moved the site 5 days ago due to kiwifags trying to get in but magni's info was already there.
>>33523369Yes but the old man doesn't have children i know we know about his PL but never in his PL he mentioned having children, this is as dumb as trying to know if he's black or white based on his voice.
>>33523367big fish is punching the cloud man right now.
>>33523405I know that but I genuinely want to see what he comes up with next cause oof that's a lot of homo collabs in a monthish
>>33523074Based. Can't wait for Gura to drop her facade and embrace what she wants to do which is collab with Tempus and her "friends"
how many members do you got to have to have the max number of emotes again?
>>33523157Hahaha there's zero threat from Tempiss. They were born to be just leeches The Nijichad dynamic works because the men are far more popular than the women. Kobo already reclined from all the homobeggar collabs. By all means, do as many of those collabs as you can. It will only cause the girl's numbers to go down the shitter even more.
>Pekora FGOLmao who fucking pissed her off in the numberthreads.
>>33523483>never in his PL he mentioned having childrenhe actually did
If this was in JP the homos gonna get death threats already or maybe somebody got stabbed already.
>>33523622>comparing random guerilla streams from super-culled KoboKobo still has 40k viewers watching her, retard, her popularity is just as high as ever if not higher
>>335236165k
>>33523461Dude you can't drop a full spoiler post about Vesper's roommate and then when someone calls you out you just go "idk maybe it's in the rrats nest I guess but i can't find it"This is why no one takes your posts seriously
>>33523694Oh im just waiting for the gura collab for that to happen.
>>33523694Western cucks love to take it. They literally get cucked by BBC all the time so they are used to it
>>335236893 days straight of playing wingman to ID
>>33523201Only when they are dating. Have you mistaken unicorn with idol culture anon? You know that JP idols are collabing with men all the time right?
>>33523689It's the other way around Schizos were getting uppity because of her DQ numbers so she bring out the big gun today, and just for one day, to spook them a little bit
>>33523694>Implying a burger homo is gonna get stabbed by a pasty nerd when they're probably strapped to the gills and ready to shoot
>>33523367Gura probably gonna get bored this season like most old timers.Though I think this event battle the JP's are doing would be great for Gura also I would love a Haachama + Gura.
>>33523785Mutt’s law
>>33523369I thought the computer mishap didn't show anything new
>>33523367Big Fish was kino last season. Why isn't she coming back?
I feel like vtuber culture is one prophet away from turning into Islam
OH NONONONONONONONONONONONO BROOOOSSShttps://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1571727564833705984
The unicuck homobeggar fighting is so tiring.For me, anybody can say on which direction a chuuba should have, but they should back it up with numbers that matter, and the only numbers that matter is OKANE. And a chuuba should have filtered potential fans that he/she does not want to have as early as possible to prevent being choked as time passes.
>>33523731Not my fault that you cant do you reps but if you actually followed the drama even daph39 said that someone already doxxed the boys and that she was afraid they might threated her and their family if she collabed further.You are honestly naive if you think there arent people who are schizo and crazy enough to track down the boys.
NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN
>>33523998
>>33523694roru, rumao evenLet's be real, most unicucks have twigs for arm and either severely malnourished or could give fungus a ran for his money.
>>33523958beggar bros.. it's over...
>>33523622Kobo low number are because of cull and shit game choiceMale collab didn't destroy her number, in fact, they made her even more popularSoon enough, she will return with 10K+ stream consistently to shut your unicuck mouth up
>>33523908It showed a part of his first name i think half of it iirc.
>>33523958Twa is a brony? You guys told me he was based? So much for your purple devil brotuber
>>33524043>2 injectionsIt's like they are trying to keep a near dead person alive for as long as possible
>>33524043Poor Aia receiving blood transfusion but the bleeding never stops.
>>33524045https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5g5GrKGdSY
The only reason why I'm pissed at the Kronii Collab is that they're fucking over Fauna for no reason. Literally neither of their timeslots and they're invading it for no fucking reason
>>33523961Unicorns are fighting a losing battle. All of the collabs with Tempus have done really good numbers and most everybody have really enjoyed them. Eventually the unicorns are going to have to accept that they are a very vocal minority and that most people don't give shit about the collabs.
>>33524054I thought unicucks have the body of Fungus.
Everyone keeps talking about Aia...but at least she's getting raids, Scarle is fucking drowning right now
>>33524172Who cares about fauna
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1571727564833705984what did she mean by this?
>>33523785Anon, stop talking about nigger dick, no one else has you fucking porn-brained faggot.
>>33524201Oof, so much for family.
>>33524209Have you seen Kronii's numbers lately People seem to care about Fauna more
>iLuna generalOk Nijifriend what happened now? Did iLuna got kicked out of /nijien/?
>>33524137Nah the site she is accusing of here isnt the same site but i would not doubt that they have a huge crossover or people on both sites.
>>33524241
>>33523132Now I want it to happen. Even more, for Ina to draw the servant as a fuck you.
>>33524201They're choking out Scarle because of her perceived closeness with Tempus... Paul she doesn't deserve this, even with the model mismatch, accent mismatch, streaming style mismatch, the person behind Scarle is still just a human with feelings, dreams and aspirations.
https://twitter.com/DomoKunClipper/status/1571334966369472513
>>33524232Tower is Niji adjacent.
>>33524270What numbers? Kronii has TWO (2) streams this month
>>33523760The Homos are doxxed already I wouldn't dismissed a shooting if that happens lol.
>>33524328Really? I thought I saw Ren or Kyo more in Tempus chat these days.
>>33524137This still doesn't reveal anything about "Tracking down the boys" when all the information they have is the same as in debut.
>>33523694Remember Lamy misread someone's Kanji name as Kenmochi and yukimin already complained on 5ch. Oversea fans are tame, they won't dare to do anything, maybe just moving to other girls or quit the hobby.
>>33523961I'm just curious that Kronii throws away her solo streams just like that, even other girls from EN/ID/JP that collabs with males still prioritize their solo streams first.
>>33524054I know like two recruits that arr unicorns and they are really fit.
>>33524289numbers too low
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1g3rkwKrhIOrca my beloved
Orca zatsu 10k get
>>33524201Hehe, Family. Am I rite?
>>33524365Anon, that's not a pony.
>>33524412I mean the fact that she knows that they can get the boys means that she knows they've been doxxed her kind also frequent those sites.
>>33524183They've all done super meh numbers anon. Not a single one has broken 20k mind youPost how great their numbers are when they can beat the girls randomly guessing urban dictionary words kek
Orca taking a nap mais stream
>>33524481Seems like Chloe is getting back into the groove of things after all the shit she has had to deal with (grandma death, ghosts). I'm glad this loveable cute retard is back.
>>33524136I don't watch her but seeing her numbers makes me feel really bad because her drawing style is pretty good
>>33524418I agree this is why both parties are afraid.
Who's down to colab with males:>Mori>Bae >Ame >Kronii Not yet but soon:>Ina>Mumei>IrysLong shot but we will get there eventually:>Gura>FaunaFinal boss:>Kiara
Does Kronii even pull numbers to be relevant here
>>33524412anon she literally said that she fears not for herself but her family and the people who she worked with and as a twitch dramafag she knows whats there.you also assume that they are gonna target the boys directly when in fact their barons might also be a very juicy target seeing as how even people here were able to see them.
>>33524481I got a gifted membershiphehe
>>33524619Gura is the final boss retardoActually it'd be more like Kiara is the final boss and Gura is the second phase
>>33524581ACCELERATE BABY
>>33524552 (me)Mid*
>>33524418>5chCome on man, that's nothing.Look at waht happened to NijiEN during Reimu yab.These days, it's the opposite, JP unicorns are not what they used to be.
>>33524513>her kindAnon she's a retarded normalfag and a streamer. She's not spending her days on doxx sites like a schizophrenic. Also you're taking her words at face value and not assuming she isn't over exaggerating at all. For all she knows they could "get the boys" using just their names
>>33524680nah gura will fall before chicken screencap this
>>33524732Gura can't even Collab with JP members.
>>33524732None of them will
>>33524715>Anon she's a retarded normalfag and a streamer. She's not spending her days on doxx sites like a schizophrenicanon i used to follow these people back then and they unironically do spend days in doxx sites since they like to get dirt on someone or even giving dirt on someone.
>>33524732Screencap that yourself, retard.
>more collabs with the homos in a single month than Fauna an entire year
Bruh, just saw Chloe jumping from 9k while sleeping to 11k when she did a noise. Is this the tab thing that I saw mentioned here before?
>>33524619>mumeihttps://youtu.be/XFpv8TTYEdg
fyi, one cute retard literally doing nothing (she was napping, without moving or saying anything) and looping a 4 secs gif of her swimming in the air would have won cripple gold todayJP is on a different level
This talk about doxxing is boring me already, call me when something actually happens and not just some anon's fanfiction.
>>33524863Aruran and Oga have a negative male point value, so it equals to zero males on tream
>>33524732Gura won't even log onto her corpo Discord, you honestly believe she'd get into a Tempus Collab? Feel free to grudgepost me. In fact grudgepost me if she does more than 3 one-on-one collabs OFF her channel by year's end
>>33524894>some anon's fanfiction.Remember mito's stalker was once fanfiction as well.
>>33524619You people are utterly repellant. This is why letting homobeggars be welcome is always a mistake, regardless of your stance on male collabs.
Updating1.7k waiting room, 5 hours left, 4k likes already
JWU and saw the schedule.I was joking when I said "Kronii needs to consult her mental state problem to someone like Vesper" on Tempus debut because she has daddy issue.Anyway what is # CCV prediction for this collab?
>>33524850Could be. That sudden jump was strange.
>>33524894Anon, did you see Chloe is being a cute retard o. Stream?
>>33524847This isn't true though. If you're only going to count 1 on 1's with Fauna, who she's done PLENTY of group collabs with, you should only coir 1 on 1's with the homos. And this will be the first.
>>33524964>by year's endwhy by year's end? i said it's a long shot but will eventually happen
>>33524659>when in fact their barons might also be a very juicy targetActually thats a very scary route if they actually do it.
>GTA 6 leak ISREALWill Rockstar put Miko reference in their game?
Bunch of long time Kronies are leaving, let's see if today marks a turning point in Kronii's decline.
>>33525014Whose waiting room?
>>33525055I wonder if they will even put nigga in it
>>33524619gura doesn't even followed or mentioned any of them yet, unlike Kiara
>>33525020Isn't that a Z? So the cause of Z is actually ghost? Are NijiEN's talents haunted?
>>33525034Count*
let's play a game, /#/. can you guess the holomem based on their mouth shape? here's an easy one
>>33525068https://youtu.be/NSeTUJyAC3Y
>>33525020kek
>>33525068peko
>>33525068Pekora'sAlso the pre-chat is the grayest I ever seen from Peko, this stream really attract load of tourist
>>33525123Koone
>>33525049and also a very smart one since targeting the oil barons will also result in a fallout in jpstars as well seeing as how they almost share the same barons.
>>33525125120K prediction>ALL BALLS IN!!!
>>33525123Selen
>>33525145what about this one
>>33525238danchou
>>33525238Noel
>>33525123What about this? Can you guess the vtuber?
>>33525271There is nothing virtual about nightmares
>>33525034well you are right but yeah when collab again with Fauna..?
>>33525271SUPER>>33525253>>33525255
>>33525271Hold on!!!
>>33525370My friend, Lap
>>33525173Let's just keep our expectation low, I will start with 30k
>>33525413you're pretty good
>>33525423Thats her normal CCV, this is a Bery Big Buff Content and its Pego of all people
>>33525461Neneti
>>33525423My fingers slipped. I meant sub 30k.
>>33525461nenechi
>>33525123That's Doog. What about this vtuber? She is a non-holo but still.
>>33525370This is the only super I will acknowledge >>33525461
>>33525461Nene
>>33523201Stop getting your entire understanding of shit from that one girl who shaved her head.
>>3352517348k - 58kFeeling a blueball number in that bracket
>>33525461https://streamable.com/svvwrp
>>33525616Nta but the shaved head girl isn't even the one anon is probably referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Mayu_Tomita
>>33523055why not fubuki and oga collab? fubuki is more famous than korone and peko
>>33525018>16k - 17k male - female interaction and drama are buff
I'm running out of mouths that are easy to identify
>Pekora shilling her Fate watchalong.Is that a restream perm? That would be disgustingly huge if it is.
>>33525522You mean not yet holo?
>>33525625There's load of debuffs in early stages of FGO, the real meat is wayyyyyyyyy later on into the storyDepend on players progression it might take months to get to the actual good stuffs later
>>33525018I cannot believe it became a reality. kek
>>33525271FUCK YOUSTOP LIVING RENT FREE IN MY HEADI HATE IT
>>33525746To show the unicorns that they have no place in hololive and to give the boys more exposure seeing as how pekora is one of the talents with high ccv.
>>33525786Ayame. This one was the easiest
>>33524431Hasn't Kronii specifically said that she likes collabs because she finds them less stressful? She's also well known for not streaming her POV in groups where everyone else is doing so for this same reason.
>>33525786OJOU AISHITE
/#/s on how many civvies the orca just merc'd?
>>33525804Do you beleib?
>>3352501814k-15k
>>33525746fuck you for making me read that retarded post. i successfully skipped it over and you had me go back and read that absolute retarded bait you dumb double nigger
>>33525835
https://youtu.be/VEI2ONcM--YAngory tom, from Yogscast has played Holocure multiple times. That's some reach
>>33525877>>33525763You people are retarded. Look at the fucking timeslot and there will be overlap.
60k for peko?
>>33525913qrd on this guy?
funny thread
>>33525746Pekora is more famous than Fubuki.
>>33525838some of them are really hard since they look kind of generic. I'm picking out ones that have more unique features so that it is easy to guess
>>33525938Sub 30k stream
>>33525964Yogscast executive producer. He is also a streamer and is behind some of their biggest events
>>3352593890k - 110k
>>33526014this is serious business fuck off
OK Cover, let's get EN3 out. I'm fucking tired of waiting. Stop delaying for Omega, his boys have had more than enough exposure and are getting multiple weekly collabs from half of HoloEN so it's all in their court now.
>>33524946cope
I cannot really predict Peko's numbers, but if she flatlines early, then 42k minimum.
>>33526010My russian hagwife
>>33526010Button
>>33525020let's see wtf is going on on that stre-
Chloe stream is interesting13k just for shitposts with her model
>>33526175Kek
>>33525926Kronii drama has built up. I will not take anything less than 15k for this collab
>>33526058They need to find a replacement for Rye so it's gonna be delayed again
>>33526175Hey, that's me
>>33526058The only thing you'll get is StarsEN 2. They already have some who got in and just finding the others.
>>33526105>>33526125you guys are too good.this one I think it's quite challenging
>>33526195>>33526175Pretty soulful
>>33526175>>33526195based
>>33526175>>33526195is this what ghosts do to your mental health?I like it
>>33526241Foobs?
>>33526241Friend
Difficulty: Nightmare mode
>>33526255>GhostNo this is what happened when you overlap Pekora's big return. She is now permanently schizophrenic
>>33526361Lamy
>>33526298>>33526337yup. I personally think Fubuki has a pretty generic-looking mouth.
>>33526361Christmas Festival
>>33526361Gura
>>33526298>>33526337NTA. Try to guess this. Hardcore.
>>33526361Not Ramy
>>33526397Miko? Fubuki's mouth kinda disappeares in the middle
>>33526397Her flat spaced out look is pretty defining imo>>33526428Nanora
>>33526384It was the fucking monkey anon.
>>33526397Iconic.
How about this?
>>33526458>NanoraWrong!
>>33526428Da baby
>>33526471Kiara
>>33526428that's hard. Luna?>>33526361Christmas Nene?
Somebody force this orca to take her meds
>>33526507>>33526491Wrong! see this >>33526485
>>33526438>>33526401>>33526393>>33526403>>335265071/5 got it, literally nightmare mode, told ya
>>33526485This doesn't look very mating pressable
>>33526551I'm so fucking happy that I'm finally the last chumbud.
I'm scared looking at Pekora waiting room.Is this mega event stream?
>>33526554not with that attitude
>>33526515It's better this way
>>33526551I said not Ramy... my guess was right too...
>>33526515Nah, more ghost stories in her head is even better
I'll do a couple more since I don't want to spam this thread too much. I should take it to the catalog in the future
>>33526058they all gonna collab with tempus tho
>>33526567Well it is the top trending "Gaming" event on JP Twitter right nowIt's a Japanese thing
>>33526507I promise you. This is hard.
>Kroniis gachikois actually going for the boys oil baronesses.Most influential thread really isnt a meme huh.
>>33526640Captain marine
>>33526640Lui?
>>33526640Marine>>33526695Gozaru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PeYmbEIXXQWhy is this Moona dancing clip gaining so many views?
>>33526567Hell Fucking Yes Anon!!!Its already trending on twitter means JPNormies are preparing to crash PegoStream
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1571740877793394688Another great mindshare, collab with JP top model
>Ayame already stopped streaming againwhy...
>>33526738it's Marine>>33526734>>33526740correct
>>33526742Sex sells
>>33526726I get being upset I guess, I mean I think it's a little stupid to freak out for hours instead of just leaving when you're not having fun anymore.But a harassment campaign against totally normal civilians just sounds like it'll end in indictments
>>33526740>GozaruNope. That one is hard. Even I cannot answer it if I don't know.
>>33526742Uses a song from a home-grown Indonesian meme it looks like, funny clip is short and funny
>>33526759It's on the Fanclub, so ehhhhhh
>>33526695the blush makes me think Anya
>>33526726wait what please tell this is a jokewhoever goes after fans is mentally derangedim disgusted if true
>>33526695treerat
>>33526864man, I want it to be true so we can see some murder
>>33526923only if the murdered are unicucks
>>33526788>end in indictmentsthats only if they are on the same country. >>33526864I was reading the thread before some replies got pruned and it seems like they are retaliating by going for the most damage.If this does actually happen the fallout might actually be bigger than the last one.
>>33526726That's stupid af. Idiots, the lot of them. Not a fan of the collabs, but to go and target people not involved like this is disgusting.
>>33526923The one oil baronness has had her insta linked /here/ so I believe it. All it takes is one schizo anti and I feel confident at least one of them are mind broken enough at this point to go after her
>>33526864clam down sister, they're obviously not serious
>>33526987This is so going to be fun, but Tempus oil baroness will not be able to match the number of fans Kronii has.
>>33526864Im not sure if they are serious or not but i would not put it pass kroniis gachis which are also unhinged to pull of this kind of stuff.
>>33527018Kek, it's not like those Tempus fans can do anything since unicorn Kronies probably outnumber them a lot.
>>33526987maaaan i feel sorry for kronii. having some retarded psychos latch to your content must feel tough. she never even pandered to cucks so why are they sperging out?
>>33526726>have been falseflagging as homobeggar to stir conflict among holofags on this threadMaybe i should stop
>>33527112See, this is kind of question is how I know you're not a member of hers.
>>33527151she doesnt pander to you in her members. take your meds.
>>33527112>she never even panderedlol
>>33527018I'm shocked that Tempus fans would do that to their own just to try to pin it on unicorns.
If a HoloEN ends up killing a StarsEN fan, it might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Yagoo will have to fold the branch.
>>33527080I don't think anything will really happen, people talk a lot of shit. But Kronii's fanbase is such a fucking mess. I hate to blame her for it but she has always had a really weird culture with her regulars and paypigs. Too much individual attention, too much parasocial stuff both ways. It's important to keep a distance and stay professional even if someone is giving you $500 every stream.Especially because that amount of money won't mean fucking anything to the talent after about a year compared to the real revenue streams Holos get, but those people will still be around and expect to be pandered to.
>>33527186Not even kill just harass to the point that it becomes a legal issue. Would honestly be a huge blow to cover if it were to escalate that far.
>>33526695>>33526771I NEED ANSWERS, WHO ARE THESE FROM?
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1571744796817100801https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1571744796817100801
>>33527112Kronii has handled this entire situation as awfully as possible. She unironically probably would have been fine if she just ignored everything from the get go but doing a members stream and going so far as to make promises to your gachi members is completely retarded. Then going back on some of those promises immediately after is even more brain dead. I obviously don't want random donators getting harassed but I have very little sympathy for Kronii in this situationManagement told her to ignore everything but she wanted to handle it personally and she's done a terrible job of it
>>33527236lol, she's handled this so poorly
>>33527186>Yagoo will have to fold the branch.so en will be males only?
>>33527236welp that just only lit the fire even more so i guess some of them might actually retaliate with the boys fans.
>>33527236damn, I'm so sorry kronies
>>33527186Yagoo would just wait for the perpetrator to be revealed as a Nijifan.
>>33527236Should've just gone with this stance at the start if that's what you wanted, you retarded clock. Playing these stupid games with your fanbase just fans drama both ways.
>>33527236She's legit retarded
>>33527235I'm not that anon, sorry. I also include a nose because it makes it easier
>>33527186Kek, JP and ID is good enough for me anyway
>>33527236A HA HA HA HA KRONIES BTFO
>>33527236AHAHAHAHAH, oh man.
>>33527261yeah kronii's content in general lacked direction from the get go. seems like she isnt ready to be a streamerwe might get a Sana 2.0 from this actually. depends on kronii's wallet though. cause sana could afford that. i dont know about kronii
>>33527216>I don't think anything will really happen, people talk a lot of shit.Anon i think with this tweet >>33527236 she just incited her ex fan antis even more. And remember ex fan antis are the worse kind of antis you can get.
>>33527236Is she graduating? She can't collab with whoever she wants in Hololive.
>>33527236Maybe kronii should take another break if she’s going to be this retardedPreferably a month or two
>>33527236Lol the passive agressiveness tone
>>33527236HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>33527236BASED.>>33527433MEDS
>>33527236Should have said this from the start, but better late than never. Once more into the breach, hopefully this will be the last one for a while.
>>33527327You think fans harassing another fans wont spread to jp and id especially when people including antis know that its an effective tactic to close a branch?
>>33527261>Management told her to ignore everything but she wanted to handle it personally and she's done a terrible job of itRushia....
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745933754503168Another retard joins the battle
To all Kronii fans:Take your goddamn meds.
seems like even management got involvedhttps://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745933754503168https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745936111710210
>>33527433This, and the lack of professionalism in how she's handled all of this, will kill her more than simply collabing with Tempus will in the long run. PROTIP FOR ANY FUTURE HOLOEN TALENTS: STRAIGHT FROM THE GETGO, BE CLEAR IF YOU WILL COLLAB WITH DUDES OR NOT. No one gives two shits about Bae collabing with stars for this reason.
Why does Youtube keep recommending me NijiEN shit even if I click "Not interested" or "Do not recommend"
>>33527236You know what? I wonder if this tweet came because her unicucks being whiny on the comment section after it was revelaed that she's gonna participate in Worms collab?
>>33527513AHAHAHAHA jesus christ. some JP will build a collab wall against EN soon.
>>33527236Didn't watch her outside of Council collabs and clips beforeBut now: I'll watch her collabs, the solo content that appears entertaining and will furiously RBI all the schizos who are undoubtedly gonna try to RLviolence threaten and suicidebait to get their way
bet she wished she listened to management in the first place now lol
>>33527513Dear fucking god EN looks like an actual clown show next to JP
>>33527572Shit happens to me too, maybe watching some clips trigger that?
>>33527513>giving attention to the dramaholly fucking retard, shut the fuck up and just do the collab, they learnt nothing from JP
>>33527572They're trying to help you out
>>33527236>took a break for two weeks>schizos died down>one of her very first Tweet since coming back is thisEven Ame handled it better than Kronii HAHAHA
>>33527461Hoping she just doesn't address it in general, hire a mod and deal with whatever wave of angry unicorns that come her way and just stream with whoever she wants to stream and play with whoever she wants to play with, giving any kind of legitimate control to her own fans, specially the ones that go crazy on you when they see you interacting with your co-workers is just asking for a Rushia 2.0 situation
>>33527535jesas
>>33527513>>33527535How many meetings have they had about this the past weekWhat a stupid mess. Management gets a lot of blame here. These problems could have been anticipated. They could have gotten ahead of this scenario and set proper expectations. Fucking incompetence.
>>33527535Okay, looks like kronies did something bad to warrant this kind of rebuke.Good on management, kronies are the worst.
>>33527572It's been happening to me too, I guess it's because Tempus shares HoloEN and NijiEN viewers and the algo is mixing both of them in the recommendations (I don't even watch Tempus)
Yagoo, for the love of god, please get rid of HoloEN already. Let those wanting to play with males go their own way while the remaining girls can join HoloJP as special foreign members.
>>33527535>>33527513Fucking hell, just graduate all of EN management, this is disgraceful to even get involved.
>>33527642I dont even watch NijiEN clips - heck I always report them for sexual content whenever I get recommended one
>>33527513What a shitshow lmao, fucking sidebranch
>>33527513>management trying to stoke the fires even moreSo the chances of her gachis attacking stars gachis just increase tenfold at this point.
>>33527704Coco was a mistake....Vtubing should have been stay JP excusively
>>33527513>>33527535LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>33527679The problems were anticipated and they told her what to do. She ignored them.
>>33527513EN management continues to be fucking retarded.Blocks a live for half a fucking year, but immediately jumps on drama
>>33527535Not feeding the schizos is a good way to start, Omega. You dumb fuck
>>33527709What? Did you somehow missed the Holo JP management tweet about Rushia?This is pretty tame all things considered
>>33524710>JP unicorns are not what they used to be.only because the JP girls keep the fanbase happy and avoid yabs, and don't break their fans' expectations out of spite of all things.JP gachis (not unicorns btw, they are imaginary creatures) will fuck up both their own chuuba as well as those they interact with if they get crossed.
>>33527658Do you think it'd be better if she put this before the break?
Okay, it might have been shitposts, but the rrat about HoloEN3 not coming might be true after all.I can't expect them to debut HoloEN3 when this shitshow is still around.
>>33527712There's was a algorithm change, sometimes you'll get 2 views, indies, vshojo or niji recommend to you randomly
Did you like it?
>>33527513>>33527535>khyo in the commentsPrepare for another dramabait clip from this fag
>>33527506If you isolate the incident to just "the male issue" and ignore the part where Rushia was trying to leak stuff to dramatubers, I'd say Kronii has handled it worse. She went from trying to compromise with her members to becoming Mori in the span of two weeks, that sort of whiplash will split her fanbase apart.
>>33527662Problem is that some of her fans have decided to target tempus fans which is might turn into another shitshow.
>>33527770She needed coaching and advice before the male collab stuff started, not in the aftermath. She was confused about why her fans even had a problem at first
I only care about numbers here. If kronii gets good numbers in homo collab then I think its all good.
>>33527799Retard, Suityan-Bessan collab happened this year. She literally said she won't pander to gachis ever as a result of unicuck hoshiyomis whine.
>>33527885She hasn't even streamed any of these colllabs LMAO
why are people blaming management for this? >tells Kronii what to sayOMG, THEY ARE FUCKING SO CONTROLLING. WHERE'S THE FREEDOM>doesn't do anything about itWHERE'S MANAGEMENT? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HELP THE GIRLS!!!
>>33527885
>>33527819actually it's very entertaining for me I did my rep enough to understand JP streams, now I'm chilling here
>>33527823I posted that before >>33527535Now I know that both Kronii AND the management is retarded.Well not as retarded as Rushia, but still retarded
>>33527679They literally have Gura as a model in their own fucking branch, I can't believe how stupid these '''managers''' are. #1 rule is IGNORE. Now this will be on the catalog for days and every drama channel would feast on this shit
>>33527871But Council isn't even the first non-JP gen, she literally has ready examples of how to (or not to) set expectations from Myth and ID.
What went wrong ENbros?
>>33527940Remember, unicorn is a brain disease.
Do you guys think Mori feels bad?
>>33527885Unfortunately, I can't see any possible way for her number to not get cratered after all this pisspoor handling. At best she'll experience a Mori level drop, and she never had anywhere near Mori's peak to begin with
>>33527770>The problems were anticipated and they told her what to do. She ignored them.What did they tell her?>Your fanbase is extremely schizo, don't upset them
>>33527885Eh it's going to be the veibie/manjisanji effect. Soda gets extra numbers if Vei appears in his stream, but vei remains a hardstuck sub 10k bitch.
I hope Kronii graduates from Holo as a result of this.Shit has been boring lately - it's been a while since we've had actual drama
>>33527971Thats what the manager told kronii retard. She just ignore it.
>>33527885Just from a numbers perspective, I really wanna see if her numbers drop off or stay the same in the long run over all of this mess. Oftentimes it's not just the issue itself, but how one handles it that fucks up their numbers, and Kronii looks like she's handled this pretty poorly overall (and that usually means a drop in numbers in the long run).
they're actually going to can the EN branch aren't they? that's why Gura has been sucking up to JP so much...
>>33527997Expecting a talent to watch other Hololive talents for examples is actually pretty fucking stupid. Yeah, some of them do it, but some of them clearly do not. Clear communication and planning is key. Management shouldn't expect the talents to know all this stuff from osmosis just because a subset of them do
Reminder that anyone using 'unicorns' or 'unicucks' unironically instead of the proper terms (goslings/gachikoi) is a twitterfag trying to prop up a strawman.Don't fall for it.
>>33527971To be fair, the rrat of Tempus doxx is too big to ignore and would potentially damages Hololive brand in the future.
>>33527871She needed therapy before even becoming a vtuber
Ah shit i just realized that most of the boys baroness dont have any opsec based on what happened last time.
>>33527997Unfortunately she's too dumb for that. I get that part of the idol's journey is learning, improving and discovering what kind of streamer you're going to be, but when you're on Holo level you really need to figure out how to set expectations from the start and I don't think Kronii is smart enough for that
>>33527513This confirms it. HoloEN is dead
>>33528053''ignore'' by making a Tweet about it? Nice job ignoring schizo
>>33528005Dumb menhera clock tick-tock'd and now drama channels shall feast.
>>33527513Is this an attempt by management to get numbers by causing drama? I think some people on twitch roll that meta.
>>33527535Wow staying silent about Gura live but suddenly come out to be vocal about male collab
>>33528014being a unicorn is retarded to begin but let's not pretend Kronii is doing a poor job handling this. she wants to have her cake and eat it too. just stick with one side. compromising leaves no one happy and makes the situation way worse. you either go Bae/Mori or Gura/Fauna/IRyS
>>33528107I won't respect your pronouns, unicuck
>Gura finally gives HoloEN branch a rare W after months of being mocked as a shit branch.>HoloEN just ruins it with this bullshit.Jesus christ, that fucking sucks.
>>33528107unicorns = goslings ≠ gachikoi
Someone is going to get fucking murdered for this, since I've seen some unhinged replies on Kronii's twitter.
>>33528005I'm sorry...it's still not too late to start doing my reps right...
If the kronies really will go through with their plan to harass the tempus paypigs, can the tempus paypigs actually try to sue them for harassment or is this pretty complicated considering it’s both online and likely from another country?
Nanikore?
>>33527535>We would like to remind the community to refrain from attacking any of our talentsBut what did they do? I didn't really follow the drama that closely, neither did I catch anything particularly bad on the catalog.
>>33524418>俺気づいたんだけど >ホロライブ辞めた人らはまとめサイトで誹謗中傷の記事だらけ >にじさんじ辞めた人らはまとめサイトでまとめられてない >ホロライブのファンって怖いねHolofags are scary man
ETA on either Kronii or Vesper graduation? Better yet Termination?
>>33528057Honestly I don't see any way for her to recover except to shut up, keep her head down, go all in with collabing with boys and try to salvage the pieces. Anything else coming from her would just make it worse at this point.
>>33528203OA
>>33528079>Expecting a talent to watch other Hololive talents for examples is actually pretty fucking stupidWhat the fuck are you talking about, that's literally the least any holo candidate should be doing. You don't have to ape or admire your predecessors but you should know what to expect. It'd be far more convincing than some lecture from management that'll just be forgotten in 5 seconds anyway.
I'm so sick of this fucking drama. Thanks for flushing the atmosphere of the branch down the fucking toilet for your pet project, Omega.
You are welcome EN fans, I started 3 months ago and I'm already enjoying the true Vtubing experiencehttps://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
>>33528113>the rrat of Tempus doxx is too big to ignoreYeah i was also doubting that anon earlier but I think tempus got doxxed and now they are trying to put down the flames but pouring gasoline instead of water.
>>33528177I mean, it's Kronii.Dumb bitch let her own fanbase to groom her.Better late than never I guess
>>33528274t-thanks...
>>33528203Preferably EN managementTheir goal at this point is beyond my understanding, anything they do benefit no one
>>33528177This is what happen when you neither have a direction on what you going to be as a streamer or even as a person in general. Stay away from depression, kids
is en management legit retarded? this is some mori shit
>>33528274based
>>33528057It should be boosted in the short term by people watching her to "own the incels". Up to her whether she can make them stay.
>we support out talent decisionThe last time they said something similar, someone was fired
>>33528203I doubt it, but if it were to happen it would result in unicuck being more persecuted in the future, just like what happened to JP idol scene.
You know, if Yagoo hadn't been too invested in his Stars project, none of this would happen.Are we sure Omega is the one to blame if there's only Hololive?
>>33528240YT comment sections, Twitter etc have a bunch of derganed schizos and shit-stirrers starting shit, and now that Kronii fucking tweeted that tweet after Vesper's schedule dropped, Management felt the need to step in because they're anticipating a mess.
>>33528203I would like to see them try but I doubt that'd happen
>>33527535100% sure that this is some Kronie's fault
>>33528298>Better late than never I guessI don't think she's gonna learn anything from this>>33528320Shion has depression but she was never like this because she knows her fanbase.
so what's the chance that this grows and EN goes the way of CN?Gura is big enough to survive right? that's all I care about
>>33528410What do you mean? YT and Twitter comments are pretty supportive though.
>>33528379"Own the incel" types NEVER stay.NEVER.These people are dramafags and tourists of the HIGHEST order, and are locusts. They leave whatever landscape they migrate to a barren wasteland in the long run.
>>33528390That's true, you're right. That's basically the initial Rushia tweet. Stupid, stupid, and so unnecessary. None of this needed to happen. Just do the collabs you want, yes even the male ones, and ignore the fallout. They'll either adjust to it or go away. It was that easy all along
>>33528431At this point gura's brand is much much bigger than hololive brand. Gura will be fine on her own.
>>33528390>Kronii is going to leak some shit shit to Khyo and getting fired LET'S GOOO
>>33528426>Shion has depressionit's just a meme retard-bro, I don't think Shion has ever come forward with her mental health beside that one time after Coco's graduation announcement.
>>33528203/vt/ gonna get its first body count, will it be a talent or a paypig?
>>33528203murdered nofan to fan harassments maybe
>>33528431None, but it's definitely going to completely split the fanbase into factions on the wider HoloEN side instead of it being kept mostly on the down-low.
>>33528005Kroni is going to collab with a *drum rolls*MALE!Unicorns are shook!
>>33528390Last time they had also added the "we will investigate rumors of misconduct" or whatever they said alluding to the NDA breach.So no need to worry on that.
>>33528472Probably got DMs
>>33528240They're literally talking directly to /infinity/
I know I said I liked retarded girls but this is not what I meant
>>33528503>92k>Bigger than Hololive brandkek cumpedos are fucking delusional
Enough said, you're falling for Reddit troll campaign
>>33528431It'll fizzle out pretty soon, I don't think you'll see an impact on numbers either, at least not immediately. "Unity" might be damaged though.
>>33528511You never took a look at her RM tweets, right?
>>33528490The reason why they are doing this is because kronii addresses this already despite management advice to ignore it.
collab beggars always ready to pounce
>>33528472DM's members messages and probably some of them check sites to see if theres any spark of trouble.
>>33528203oh really? how deep did you have to look cause all i saw was based support.
>>33528431none, but Kronii usually doomposts about "let's enjoy our time together" and "I will remember you after everything is over"so with that mind, I think she might legitimately not renew her contract next year
Kneel to Paul Li /#/ kek
>>33528431I don't see why they would can the whole branch over drama involving one talent, unless some deranged kronie actually does murder someone, which seems like a long shot.
>>33528643Nijibeggars....
>>33528605Atleast LSF drama fags watch the fucking streams. Holoredditors are clipniggers.
>>33528107>proper terms (goslings/eat a dick
>>33528410Yeah but I've never seen any screenshot of these supposed attacks circulating on this board besides some Youtube comments expressing discontent with males collabs in a fairly tame manner. That's why that line felt odd to me.
>>33528690>>33528533Which would also be a shitshow for cover especially if it becomes a targeted harasment.
>>33528667I kneel. You did it! You forced HoloEN to kill itself
>>33528471Yes unicuck, please seethe more.
>>33528242it's sad not scary. i only feel sorry for holomens who have "fans" like that
>>33528690I actually do wonder what the response would be if a murder happened
>>33528612No, I'm not a doxxsis.
>>33528778check infinity a couple of her members quit and wrote long letters about it so i guess management thought that they had to step in.
>>33528667retard Nijinig drama brings number
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY ROBERU AND POLKA COLLAB.
come home kroniieshttps://youtu.be/5-hwTE_O8WY?t=2436
>>33528113>the rrat of Tempus doxx is too big to ignore and would potentially damages Hololive brand in the future.If I were one of the fags, I would even avoid collabing with these stupid ass girls. I just want to earn easy money, not attract schizos because their oshi can't control them
kronii actually turned into mori lmaoooo
>>33528643Do the beggars realize that if they take the management statement on its face that means than all of the talents (except Kiara) think its best to ignore nijisanji?
>>33528862Right, so you don't know anything about her
>>33528792Retard, I'm not even supporting the dumb unicorn idiocy you homobeggar, these are the same twitter trannies that are all 'YAS QUEEN', but when it comes down to putting down the money, don't buy the comics, don't watch the movies, don't support whatever 'hobbies' they've infiltrated, don't fucking back up their empty words with long-term support. Time and time again, over and over, you see it happen.
>>33528809that would be something worse than kaguya luna and would effectively shut down hololive and would also give the vtuber antis a new effective weapon.
>>33528889No, fuck no, don't come anywhere near Gura's fanbase you fucking idiots. Not welcome.
>>33528908Anon, i don't think holomen and holostars wants "easy money".
>>33528809PandemoniumIt would make global news much the same if any big YouTuber was killed in spectacular fashion
>>33528238>our talents can do whatever the fuck they want, stop flooding the feedback page
>>33528203Wow, so what you’re saying is Kronii and Cover want to break away from literal schizos who will actively harm their talents? No way! How about people start holding /infinity/ Kronies and other like-minded people accountable. No talent should feel quite literally uncomfortable with the prospect of streaming because “fans” are breathing down their neck with a knife faced towards them. Not to mention, people are just trying to look directly at the holo girls here. No one is addressing the fact that this absolutely insane behavior by fans is also attributed to the fact that people are treating normal guys just playing games as the fucking antichrist who are trying to taint everything around them. I don’t really care about collabs. I’m more than happy watching my oshi whether she collabs or not, and if anything I do prefer things stay separate. But enough’s a fucking ‘nough.
>>33528956Wait, it's that easy to shut down Hololive by killing someone and admiting you're a Holo fan?
So much for HoloEN saving Hololive
well, time to try anki again
>>33528113>To be fair, the rrat of Tempus doxx is too big to ignorewith the way that management is responding and daph39 video i dont think this is a rrat anymore.
>>33528920Tell me more unicuck, i bet you think you know Shion more than she herself.
C'mon guys Vesper is just a little guy c'mon
>>33528956Won't be kaguya luna tier but it would be Sio tier.
Personally I don't get how someone can get so invested in a puppeteered anime girl that they have some sort of shizo breakdown when she does something they don't like.
>>33528887Never happening as long as they both remain autistic about their roommates’ lives
>>33528809hololive goes to shitI'm not joking
>>33528867>members displeased and quit>management basically sends an official message of good riddanceThat would be the worst ever reason for management to make a statement, dude.
Walk me through this one.You make millions of dollars with your female talents.The ONLY time your money is at risk is when men are involved.Why the fuck do you keep trying to make male talents, who are never even matching up in popularity, a thing? The definition of insanity.
A lot of comments in Peko pre-chat is worrying that she might not get the story of FGO and so it won't work as streaming content
>>33528917make sense. the original /infinity/ dwellers were ex-deadbeatsthey should just stay out at this point instead of causing a ruckus
>>33529084Welcome to the parasocial business industry anon. Juicers went into months of schizo posting because xqc gambled.
>>33529055Anything not outright confirmed is still in rrat territory anon.>>33529120Why would management tries to placate a couple of schizos?
>>33528809all the girls go on indefinite hiatus or become absolutely soulless for their remainer in hololive.
>>33529068just look at the usual site, no one is going to risk a ban
>>33529043yeah it would damage any brand hell it would even damage vtubing itself especially when its still a niche.>>33529070nah its way worse than kaguya, sio, rushia or even taiwan. shit like this can cripple a hobby.
>HololiveJP inclining>HololiveID inclining (kobo reclining)>HololiveEN dyingits over...
>>33529140As if that was ever the meat of the content, I'll be there for the autistic gacha
>>33529140I was under the assumption she'd just pull the gacha for an hour
I just slept for around 3 hours and I'm now waking up to yet another EN drama, wtf?? I swear EN as a whole was a genuine mistake.
>>33528889Send them to IRyS she needs all the help she can get
>>33528908I mean until something physically happens to them (like getting mail with their holo name) I don’t think they’re gonna think too much about it to be honest.
I take it back about Scarle, Kronii has the worst model to streaming style disconnect - the unholy matrimony of which attracted these literal schizos who shouldn't be in any fanbase, JP, EN, Niji, PC, PK or otherwise
>>33529125stars literally only exists to make things awkward and leech, it's been that way for years and cover insists on it, i fucking hate yagoo
>>33529125the main branch and holostars have coexisted for years without issuethis is only a problem in the western community
>>33529055>daph39 videowell, well. Collabing with a Twitch dramafag has it's consequences, I see I see. This is why Gura created her own bubble, she knows these Twitch whores tendencies
>>33529181If you write a long letter and quit, you're not a schizo, just someone who got overly invested and then decided to leave. Or did they threaten to stab anyone in those letters?
>>33529191So nothing would change?
>>33529084We discussed this last week I think.It's the combination of waifu stuff from weeb and their false perception on how JP idol scene is.
>>33529205>>33529197You can't really pull the gacha without story progression in FGO. Like shit is straight up locked
>>33529193>shit like this can cripple a hobby.I can imagine it being regulated or banned if the murder was done in Japan.
>ignore numbers for the evening>check the thread early in the morning (2:45 EST)>kronii meltdownit's my fault guys... me being away from the thread caused her to say that
>>33529273>Have coexisted>Without issueYou seriously are not saying this right?
My condolences holoenbros
>>33529140Anon, the game is shit, the franchise is shit and gacha was a fucking mistake. She'll get huge numberes because Japan was a mistake too and JOPs love gachashit
>>33529273>the main branch and holostars have coexisted for years without issueLMAO you actual lying whore
>>33529244Fuck off, we're full with our own schizos already.
>>33529298No it's not, you can roll any banner that's currently up after you complete the tutorial. The fuck are you talking about?
What's up with these dramaniggers. Go create your thread in the catalog.
>>33529273>without issuedude...lol
>>33529181its still rrat but its a very very strong rrat now.>Why would management tries to placate a couple of schizos?because ex fans becoming schizo antis are the worse kind of antis and most of the worst harassment from both vtuber and real idol groups comes from those types of fans.
>>33529210>Try not make HoloEN look like an embrassment(Impossible)
>>33529287The problem is they don't really quit after sending that letter
>>33529298Also right now in FGO JP, the only banner up is the new event banner, would be weird if she pulled the character without being able to touch the event
>>33529351It's just one girl who didnt even stream. I dont understand the absolute meltdown im seeing here.
>>33529287>If you write a long letterYes, like schizos do.I doubt they would outright announce their intention to do crime, at least I hope kronies are not that stupid but who knows.
>>33529336You motherfucker, I hope you're sorry (I forgive you)
>>33529383Ah yeah sorry I mistook it with story chapter lockI personally never have to experience being behind so it slipped my mind
>>33527639Yeah, totally, JP isn't a clown show at all"We don't care about what our talents do in their private lives>fast forward a couple days"Lel, just kidding, Rushia is fired"
>>33529140Even if she doesn't get it she'll cook up her own galaxy brain theories and stories anyway
>>33529273Delusional, the issues took a lot of time to minimize, and even then they're not gone.
>>33529432>being invested enough to write out a long message is badgo be a zoomer somewhere else you adhd riddled fuckface
>>33529296So Western idolfags are somehow crazier than JP idolfags?
>>33529400Trying to placate schizo antis is the worst decision they could take, best to set the boundary and threaten them with lawsuit.
>>33529351Better than getting cucked
>>33529491retard.
>>33529417>>33529432You guys are claiming that management decided to make an official statement that's basically "fuck off and good riddance" in response to some people writing long-winded posts on 4chan (the fucking anonymous board 4chan) about quitting. Let that sink in.
>>33529432I mean some of them planned to target the homos fans and oil barons and that was before the kronii tweet.
This is the same message they released during Rushia's drama but english. I have no idea why people are malding over cover for this.
>>33529427It's more sperging about the potential future meltdowns etc etc etc.You know, the usual dramanigger nonsense (surprise surprise, homobeggars are also dramaniggers).
>>33527235>>33526891>>33526862hehe
>>33529528>Trying to placate schizo antis is the worst decision they could take, best to set the boundary and threaten them with lawsuit.Its the only route they got especially if the schizo is not from japan so they really cant do shit.
>>33529273Stars literally got harrassed HARD in their fisrt year, like death threats level hard.It had gotten so bad that Sora thought the harassing come from unicorn Stars fan.
IMAGINE WE GOT EN3 INSTEAD OF TEMPUS, NONE OF THESE THINGS WOULD'VE EXISTED AND WE GOT MORE STREAM TO WATCH. NICE JOB, OMEGA
>>33529594Lack of drama, we need to keep up with lsf with unnecessary drama
You think EN homos ever look at this shit and think "hmm maybe this is my fault somehow, maybe I have a way to stop this"? No, join every collab with wamen every week you say?
>>33529125Homo is a fucking mistake since the beginningYagoo should sell that brand to Brave or some other companies and sticking with female market. >>33529273newfags, you weren't there when JP shitting on Homo.
>>33529481Only thing you don't have access to, gacha-wise, will be story-locked servants being missing from the story gacha. >>33529419There's multiple banners up with older rate-ups at the moment, not just the new event character.
i just want someone to graduate over thisit would be perfect drama
>>33529396You thought this thread was about numbers? It's the holosister general.
>>33529546>in response to some people writing long-winded posts on 4chanNot in 4chan you retard but a lot of kroniis member literally wrote long winded posts of why they were quitting and were posting it on her general.
>The virgin KiaraI won't collab with males if you don't want me too, uwuvs.>The CHAD KroniiI'll collab with whoever the fuck I wantBased Kronii. Unicorns eternally blown the fuck out.
>>33529615okay, that's cheating since it's not her original art
Dude imagine being in EN3 and seeing all this shit go down LMAO
First Cover supporting her, next Twitter actually showing more support, and now even Reddit is showing even more support. Fuck, Kronii is never going change her way with these two massive support groups.I feel like only /vt/ is the sane group in this situation
>>33529615That's cheating, I even went through all the 2d models and couldn't find anyone who matched the pic
>>33529750>i don't care about what my audience wants is based nowdamn, can't believe you like taking it so much
>>33529615Watanya…
>>33529518I don't have issues with unicorns that wrote long-ass posts as long as they really drop her, the problem is they write those long ass post essentially trying to gain Kronii attention, and that is prime schizo behaviour.
>>33529594Because Kronii """""dramas"""""" was an enormous nothing burger that they just made bigger for absolutely no reason. 95% of the viewerbase was probably unaware of any kind of Kronii drama before this tweet.
So miko gold today?
>>33529615OH COME ON, YOU CHEATING BASTARD
>>33528057Drama buff will actually increase numbers at first. Once the drama wanes tho, that's when you can start seeing if it will affect her numbers or not.
>>33529874Lol
>>33529819I'll screencap your post for when the Kronii collab with Noir easily gets over 10k viewers and everybody clips it due to how entertaining it was. You unicorns are a very vocal and annoying minority. You don't matter and you never did. Kindly fuck off.
5ch status?
>>33529874How so? It's Pekkers FGO my man
>>33529874Peko fgo first strean
>>33529651This is on Yagoo. I don't blame him too much normally, but this one is on his own sick obsession with trying to make the stars work, and transferring that over to the EN branch as a result.
>33529792Improve your baits anonCalling /vt/ sane is just about the least sane thing someone could say
>>33529874The fuck
>>33529792Why would Kronii ever change her mind?It was clear she was going to collab with males ever since she had that Q&A after her first collab where she didn't even know what the issue people had was.Anyone who didn't realize that and kept deflecting to people like Ina Kiara or Mumei was a fool.
>>33529874>30k gold>In the face of Pekora not playing DQEven her Splatoon 3 got over 30k
>>33529935now say it without crying
>>33529874Pegors is (unfortunately) streaming fgo for the first time today so the gold will go to her
My oshi can't carry this doomed fucking branch alone and she's too retarded to really learn japaneseShit's fucked
>>33529521JP idol scene these days is "healthy", but that's the after effect of 2013 AKB48 member scandal and MULTIPLE assaults on idols by their crazed fans.
>>33529792>supportMore like dramafags jumping in, no one truly gives a shit about Kronii or Tempuss.
>>33529594Releasing a message during Rushia's yab was necessary because it involved not only the hololive fanbase but also angry mafumafu fans, and Rushia also saw fit to run right to korekore who promptly spread the drama to at least 100k+ people watching live that very night. Not so much here. Well, before they released that statement anyway.
>>33530020Marine need to adopt her asap
https://youtu.be/vV-5W7SFHDc>9.99 millionAitore hitting 10 mil by next thread.
>>33529935HOLY BASED
>>33529792It's impossible to actually criticize your oshi on a non-anonymous account for most people. Especially Kronii, who last time it happened picked the posts apart line by line on stream and then took a two week break.And if you tweet about it, a million people who don't even watch Hololive will call you a cringe incel.Most fans that are bothered by this and aren't attention whores don't want that kind of heat. They'll just fuck off.
cover made this way bigger than it needed to bewhy are they so incompetent
>>33529941
>>33529864I don't know man, kronies trying to doxx Tempus is pretty bad, worse than Rushia lusting after mfmf dick even.
>>33529846well yeah thats cringe attention whoring
>>33530020You just have to wish fauna, irys and ina can incline enough to help your oshi
>>33529688Dont think so since they dont get affected either way unless those kronii members were legit and will actually stalk and harass the boys fans and paypigs.
>>33529911It will help numbers. Hololive always comes out of drama looking good when they can frame themselves as the victim. The official Hololive account tweeting that was the perfect victim framing. Now the majority of fans think that a bunch of weirdos are attacking Kronii which will just increase their support for her. Hopefully the weirdos who are attacking Kronii are bullied out of the community.
>>33530010What about gura stream earlier? How much number did that stream get?
>>33529941>When Hololive EN was first created, I was hoping that Hololive would expand overseas.>Please don't act like an official to cut off listeners who are attacking (complaining).>The disgruntled listeners must be fans too.>I'm not interested in EN anymore because they don't deliver enough in the first place.>They regularly take a week or more off, and every time they do, I lose the same connection.>EN, a box that ended after a brief moment of brilliance after its inception.>If this decline had been JP, they would have been beaten to a pulp.>I've declared that I won't collaborate with Holostar, so I'm relieved. >I've heard a lot of men's voices in the real world, so that's enough
>>33527961That's not a very high bar to set to be honest.
>>33529792>/vt/>saneI got bad news for ya buddy.
>>33530081>813 hits where it hurts
>>33530118Postponed
>>33530020She'll be fine. EN will be split into two awkward sides though and the chats of the idol side will probably get quite bad in the coming months
Will Yagoo fold HoloEN?
>>33529935You should also screencap her numbers before, during and after the eventSee if after the dramanig*ers fuck off she will have the same amount of numbers
Does Kronii even get numbers to be relevant in these threads
>>33530118She was having issues with her power due to bad weather so she delayed it to tomorrow
>>33530081>809based
>>33530111I'm pretty sure twittertrannies and redditfags will buy merch, superchat, attend to conventions, support whatever she shills or watch streams after the collab
>>33530020Nothing has changed though, Kronii was always in the collab with males campWhy the fuck are people doomposting? Cover's statement here >>33527535 even points out every talent is doing their own individual branding so that kills the rrat that it's management forcing homo collabs. The people on Gura's side will continue to not collab with the homos.
Kronii has finally killed any hopes for SNOT podcast or more collabs - I don't think Gura is willing to take the risk that Kronii will mention HomoEN during stream or will praise them.
>>33530150>If this decline had been JP, they would have been beaten to a pulpYeah this must be one of those numberfagging nijifags who jumped ship after dodgeball kek
>>33530081>809i approvetake gura too
>>33529792>/vt/ is saneHahaha, good one anon. Made me chuckle.
I know we are busy shitposting on Kronii but I just found out Nasu and Takeuchi watch Hololive regularly
>>33529819>I don't care about aome loud minority twitter cancel mob and 4chan morons who convinced themselves they're getting cuckedIs unfathomably based
>>33530210None, she always debuff herself anyway
>>33530230Unicuck, please, do you really think your kind make the bulk of Kronii membership?
Lmao the upcoming therapy stream gonna be funny, because Kronii will actually have mental problem by thenMaximum immersion
>>33530206If some fan gets harassed or worse killed then maybe.
>>33530081>its overtruly just a mirror.
>>33530187>EN will be split into two awkward sides thoughDunno. The chances of at least Fauna and Mumei showing solidarity with Kronii just spiked a lot. Now Kronii has literally put them in an awkward spot where they're not making a choice in what content they do, they're siding with people who "harassed" poor Kronii.
>>33530081>809gura abandoned...
>>33530239The majority of the people here are larping and shit posting. Very very few people actually care about the issue. It's just an excuse to be an asshole.
>>33530312She should reach out to Yugo and get some tips from her.
>>33530238Now this is prime grudgepost material.>>33530273Uh, did you miss their C100 interview?
>>33530273No? They only mention Vtuber once in that interview
>>33530327this is why it's so fucked and why i hate kronii nowdon't fucking make management pull this shit, you're literally fucking over other people
>>33530210I guess people were jerking her off in her debut buffs. Because 40k for frostpunk is p nuts.
>>33530273Fgo x holo sponsorship or promotion when?
>>33530327Nah the cover management tweet gave them a way out which is why i hate that tweet.
>>33530081
>>33530363I just want to see some people get killed, especially if it hurts the Hololive brand
>>33530380qrd on c100 interview?
>>33530386Retard, it's literally veering into outright crime, not addressing this would only make Cover looks bad.
>>33530327They're just coworkers I doubt they care that much
>>33530327Nah, the official tweet gave them the perfect out. It basically said the direction of their content is completely up to them. It was actually a very well thought out and strategic tweet. HoloEN management did something good for once.
>>33530451Based gang
So.. Mori team Vs Gura teamWhich side are you on /#/ bros?
>>33530020If Gura breaks, you know this shit is about to go down. She's basically the final boss.
>>33530363>The majority of the people here are larping and shit postingI truly hope thats the case but kronii has one of the more schizo fanbases in en anon and having an ex fan as your anti is the worse kind of anti.
>>33524289People kept posting lies on /NijiEN/ about them during dead hours and no one corrected it because no one watched them.A NijiEN-only thread was never going to work out.
>>33530354Does Gura stream? Sounds like the resounding majority only want chuubas who stream at least 40 hours a month
>>33530309I'm not a unicorn, I don't watch Kronii, I don't even watch EN Vtubers, I have never paid a single dollar for Vtubers besides merch I really liked even though I could afford to send a red SC to my oshi literally everyday and wouldn't notice any difference in my income.You picked the wrong target retard, and yes, those people are who give them money, just look at Marine, Pekora, Lamy, Rushia, etc.
Do we know when will the gura splatoon tournament happen?
>>33530462Nasu and Takeuchi thinks vtuber is the next anime/manga and that they watched vtubers, namely Hololive.
>>33530529Numbers speak for themselves, and the Gura camp is the one with the numbers.
>>33525018Minimum : 10kExpected : 15kKneel Territory : 25k+
>>33530327Based on how Fauna has handled this in the past she'll either ignore it or say that Kronii handles her own content.
>>33529874>2k waiting 4 hours remaining for PekoraAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA no. Tonight will be a bloodbath and nothing else https://streamable.com/0i3g38
How do you like Holostars so far?
>>33530561>RushiaYou literally picked the worse example retard.Most of her gachis are still with her, even after she did surprise totsu with male chuuba last month.
Ngl, reading the kronii threads feels like reading the jp real schizos who go harass people in real life and stabbing people.
>>33530363>he says this when kroniis are legit mental like their oshii wish i had your enthusiasm anon.
>>33530674Lol
>>33525018I thought this will be around 10-15k. Now I believe it could break 20k
>>33530363Kroniis are legit mental and she even said on stream that the other Council members have commented on it before. I'm going to go have fun in /inf/ for a bit now, see the rest of you there.
>>33530657It's funny because someone was saying she can't pull 60k out of her ass on demandThat anon will probably feel really dumb tonight
by the way, just preparing you but the collab is gonna get drama boosted, so expect a lot of shitposting about the numbers
>>33529765>>33529814>>33529892ehe
GUNDOU THE LEECHhttps://twitter.com/g9v9g_mirei/status/1571755846283198465
>>33530674Thats why i feel that there might be something that will happen.
>>33530759la+...
>>33530759>549Kek, even they know that Laplus is retarded.
>>33530759>549man, they really hate laplus now
>>33530759LmaoYeah at least HoloX don't actively go out to make controversial statements
>>33530363>larpingroru rumaoThat faggot K1 even spammed Regis chat for almost the entire stream, how's that not a schizo behavior?
members really need to get transferred to JP fast before the drama gets worse
>>33530782Wasn't she just talking about hololive being SC whores just a couple months back or was that taken out of context.
>>33530759>538Add Mumei, Fauna and Kiara and we're good to go
Is Peko playing FGO that of a big deal? WTF
Perhaps one of the stupidest posts>hey guys don't attack our talentsLike the fucking police giving a PSA with don't murder. Whooooooooo the fuck do you think will listen to you AND was planning to attack talents? What is the overlap there?
OH NEW DRAMA!!!>It's just the same male collab bullshitYou people are fucking boring
>>33530841the only one that makes trouble is laplus, the others are really well behaveddespite all the ghost shit, chloe is just weird
>>33530797Niji already wagging their tails to Pekora
>>33530674And now you understand why Kronii would want to break away from those type of people, anon. This is why the whole “Kronii’s fault” stance is fucking dumb. Even if she didn’t handle things as good as she could’ve, you can’t make sense with people who are legitimately insane.
>>33530782>>33530797>shittalks hololive one day>now this????
>>33530665read your original comment again retard and stop replying to me when you have the reading comprehension of a 5 y/o kid
>>33530883I mean did anyone or even (You) expected her to play it? Like, ever?
>>33530883Unlike what Genshinfags and horsefags would like you to think, it's still one of the most popular mobage in Japan despite no longer being the undisputed no.1.
You have to imagine at a certain point the JP branch steps in to ask what the fuck is going on with EN management right?
>>33530239It's disappointing that she can't handle it with as much dignity as Baelz.Also, I think Bae literally just doles out GFE to make up for male collabs, pretty smart.
Waht is your r prediction on Kronii x Vesper numbers?13-17k CCV for me
>>33528778It's the VTuber version of pic related.
>>33530925You don't break away from these people. They will never leave. What you should had done was put your stance at the beginning like Bae.#grimmie'd
>>33530899...what?ANon, police regularly gives PSA about ANY crime, yes, even murder. What is with unicuck and stupid analogies?
>>33530905hey, it's literally kronii faultshe could just stfu and be done with it
What cracks me up about these >I AM AN ENTERTAINER NOT YOUR GFEN holos is that...they're not very good entertainers. They really don't seem to realize that either. They think people are there for their ebin funny times.
>>33530972They are the Ayame of gacha. 90% of time they are down there but whenever they DO release something, the money pouring in and they shoot up to the top immediately (in Japan)Genshin is more like the Pekora of gacha that they always somewhere in top 5 but rarely 1st in Japan
>>33531033honestly with how this drama is going i feel this will get 20kshitposting will be crazy
>>33530905Dramaniggers raiding please understand.
>>33531012Having male collabs and doing GFE seems counterproductive - unicorns won't watch her for male collabs and beggars won't watch her for GFE. It would explain her number though
>>33531033Is it on Vesper's channel? Yea, then 13-17k is the expected range. I also don't expect it to be nearly as interesting as the BOOMER VS ZOOMER collab was, but that's more due to the topic at hand. >>33531011Maybe, but we're not at that point, not yet.
council unironically killed hololive
>>33530883Her GBF streams is still among her top 10 most watched streams.People love gachas.
>>33530661This is the first time that I have an IRK to punch you Yagoo, but I still respect you because Im a JPFAG
>>33531033Yeah i go with something arround there, maybe more with drama buff
>>33530767Shit's gonna be impossible to use for a while.
>>33531039Considering the coordinated tweets, I wouldn't be surprised if management's plan to incline Tempus is to use this tactic.
>>33528746>>33528193fuck off man, it's the same concept.
>>33531012Kronii is a retard yes. I don't have much hope for her growth even if I don't really care about male collabs, she just seems directionless and manages to turn a simple decision in a month long dramafest.
>>33530905They're using Kronii to deflect them from the fact the Enna cucks her fanbase
>All these drama>Only 20k predictionPathetic, it doesn't even worth it
Come home kroniies
>>33530963Seethe more unicuck, the sooner you and your kind drop my oshis the better.
>>33530661Suddenly Pekora 2m wish to become Cover CEO even as a joke, makes so much fucking sense now.
Reading through both reddit replies and 4ch replies, it's funny how different both communities are. On vt, people are shitting on Kronii. On the Holo reddit sub, people are praising Kronii's statement.Both sides are, of course, shitting on the other. Also, there are only 105 posters here while the reddit thread already has almost 200 replies.
>>33531012The main difference is that Bae has better fans
>>33530797>the queen is on her move
>>33531160I don't think her gbf is in the top 10.
>>33531074This might be a bit unrelated, but what do you think of Axia's situation? Do you think his old fans that he hates will keep watching him after his return?
>>33531246who cares about reddit numbers, fucking homo memes from 1k streams get more traction than fucking 60k+ lives
NijiEN still need to learn from HoloEN.This is the right way to create drama and boost your popularity and not by fucking nuke your minecraft server
>>335310337-10k
>>33531264Wasn't her first GBF stream got 80k?
>>33530782pekolacho follows her at least
Little did we know, he was talking to /hlg/ all along.
>>33531136Bae has a lot of Korean fans right? Literally every Korean piece of fiction I've seen has some form of NTR it in so I guess it depends on if your audience thinks male collabs interfere with GFE that much.
>>33531299lol yeah I'm expecting big numbers from Kronii unpacking stream
Wish people would stop pretending this a JP idol culture thing when the exact same thing with crazed fans happens even with the supposedly enlightened and non-unicorn Western entertainment scene, and it doesn't even have to be over parasocial relationships. Pretty sure Western entertainers have had a higher death-by-fan rate than Japanese ones too.
>>33531232I wonder how would it be if Pekora was in charge since she did talk about it once. Basically she will encourage streaming, and while you are not required to stream everyday, you will have to stream at least a certain number of days per weekWho know what else she came up with at that moment but didn't say
>>33531246redditnigs dont watch streams
>>3353103310k min15k expected20k dramaboost actually working25k kneel
>>33531223The worst part is not that you are larping as the retard you actually are, but that you can't even read
>>3353103312k, maybe up to 14k with the drama boost.
>>33531012Again, I will stress this.SET EXPECTATIONS EARLY AND NO ONE WILL GIVE TWO SHITS.This Kronii flip/flop and drama comes from her not understanding her own fanbase and what she herself really wanted.
>>33531246>redditIt's just Twitter for nerd
>>33531299dozo
>>33531380And do you think /here/niggers do?
>>33531317I mean counting celebration streams and outfit, that is like 7 streams. The other 3 could be sub 100k
I mean the holo walled garden (cgdct) for en clearly failed and the numbers are decreasing so you need to appeal to the more normie crowd. Holo image looks really weird outside for the normie en crowd like how weebs are look down upon.
Nijibros can we trade Kronii for Honma please.
>>33531465>trading one whore for another
>>33531374Björk with the fan that ended up killing himself because she was in a relationship is a good example.
>>33531246>ignoring global and the catalog postsAnon you forget that this place is still the most active discussion board for vtubers. A single one of our threads reaching bump limit is more posts than /r/hololive gets in an entire day. Don't forget you can samefag on reddit tooPlus it's past midnight in the entirety of NA now. who do you think is commenting on reddit right now? Most likely it's Euros and we all know how much they tune in for streams.
>>33531465axia cumdump? no thanks
>>33531465Well no, Honma actually fucked a dude
>>33531418Am I now?Whose the one claiming that only unicorns SC/member/buy merch again?Here, have a Towa, unicuck.
>>33531203Enna is a femcel and a virgin. The real deal, she's the bitchy GFE that Hololive can't provide.
>>33531437>SET EXPECTATIONS EARLY AND NO ONE WILL GIVE TWO SHITS.I mean Kronii literally just DAMNED EN3 to all acknowledge and say they'll collab with stars on debut. Thousands of possible gachis scattered and lost because one fucking retard had to cry to management about it.Do you realize the amount of backstage bitching it must have taken for fucking EN management to do something, even a simple tweet? Jesas she must have threatened to graduate on the spot.
>>33531465>HonmaAia is fine, too
I really feel like Hololive at its core is just Nijisanji, but with idol reps when Yagoo started his idol project. Since many of their talents are such introverts, they do not collab with males, and the "no males" fanbase developed out of it. The holobox also developed, I believe due to sankisei. Sora being an idol-type vtuber made the Hololive brand more different. Thus the brand evolved away from Nijisanji-style vtubing.I can be wrong, though.
>>33527535Retarded homobeggar being in the reply, obviously!https://twitter.com/Khyomaru/status/1571746073689096192
>>33529084Biggest problem with Kronii was not making her stance clear.See : MoriShe had no issues in collabing with fleshies, males, or whoever the fuck she wanted right off the bat, and so her fans were filtered over time.Kronii pandered to her gachis in member streams, and was somewhat parasocial herself with her audience. She had not gone for any male collabs or even references since debut (also tried to imply that she was gay).And now with the advent of Tempus, she's breaking all the expectations she set for her audience after so long.She had a chance initially, during the very first spergout. She could've said "fuck you guys I collab with who I would want" and well, her fans would have to cope.She tried to placate both sides, said she wouldn't collab with them unless it was as a group, all that jazz.And then she went back on it AGAIN.Lying to your fans is a cardinal sin in this industry. And she will now have to suffer whatever happens due to her actions.
>>33531456My bad then, I forgot Pekora top 10 most watched streams are full of 100k or more.
5ch screenshooted infinity
>>33530661The jp ones are alright since they mostly stick to themselves and their friends outside the company but tempus is a mess
>>33531540>Enna>virginLol. Lmao even. Having a dogshit personality doesn't mean she's a femcel it just means she's your average Zhang.
>>33531374The day when someone gets Grimmied is the day western vtubing dies.
>>33531516Seafags are also reddit, ma dude. (except ID if they aren't using a proxy since reddit is banned over there)
>>33531450every post from Gura's animation had some top posts wondering where it came from and chastizing it as CPreddit is literally clipwatchers and twitter crusaders
>>33531377Based on what she said/ or at least joked about that I'm genuinely thinking she planning to work in Cover management after retirement.
Remember when this thread was a safe zone during drama and we could calmly discuss it when all the schizos left to shit up the catalog. What the fuck happened?
>>33531465Axia's literal cocksleeve, that Honma? Or did I mistake one of the million sub-1k Femjisanji?
>>33531540Hahahaha remind me again that clip where she would like an australian meat?
>>33531633>reddit is banned over thereSo is 4chan, but you know the result
>>33531569>I mean Kronii literally just DAMNED EN3 to all acknowledge and say they'll collab with stars on debut.Where did this happen? No where is it implied anyone is forced to collab with stars. Kronii is collabing with stars because she wanted it. Cover has made it clear everyone sets their own content, so no one is being forced.
Holokeks made joke about niji lie verse, but guess what, their talent is actually compulsive liar lmao
Magni collabing with that fleshtuber posed more potential harm imo, though fortunately nothing came out of it
>>33529594It's basically a statement of "TALENT FREEDOM".
>>33531652We allowed holoEN discussion.
>>33531533>Am I now?yes>Whose the one claiming that only unicorns SC/member/buy merch again?Me, point stands still and doesn't contradict what I said unlike you sperging as a retard without even being able to read or remember what you said>Here, have a Towa, unicuck.Thanks, I like Towa
>>33531569Nah, they can just choose to say they're interested in collabing with girls, like Mumei did, and most people will get the hint. If homobeggars don't take the hint and STILL pop up, then they'll just get ignored like Fauna and Gura ignores them. If it gets bad enough that they need to take a HARD stance, then they can just refer to the management statement and tell the beggers to fuck off. That is, if they're interested in choosing that route. If they're open with collabing with dudes as a holomem, then better they state it on debut and get it over with.
Somehow Yagoo has gone from the most loved vtuber CEO to the most hated thanks to his support of Tempus.
>>33531594She actually don't even have enough 100k+ stream to fill top 10 entirely. Her outfit and Pekomama make 2. She's been here for 3 years so that mean 6 anni/birthday stream except make it 5 since she did not do her birthday on 1st yearSo 6-7 stream that is a sure 100k+, the rest can be sub 100k including the Sankisei quiz show finale
>>33531699>though fortunately nothing came out of it>he doesnt knowanon magni and maybe vesper got doxed hard because of it
>>33531748Not really. I don't give a fuck.
Kronii is trending on Twitter..... the whole Vtuber comunity is talking about this drama.
>>335316844chan is banned but not 4channel. Also some smallerindonesian ISP doesn't ban 4Chan in Indonesia
>>33531569>Literally saying she would like to collab with whoever she fancies>Management reassert their decision to support their talents decision>"HURRR DURRRRRRRR THIS MEANS EN3 WILL BE FORCED TO DO OFFPAKO ON STREAM DURRRRR"
>>33531599I hope they post in it too.
>>33531767Sounds like nothing.I was referring to burger politics making its way on stream
Worldwide schizos let the skitz begin!
>>33531652We allowed homobeggars to get comfortable, so they dragged that garbage alongside the opposing side into /#/.
>>33531647She certainly have the skills for it. Being an ex kindergarten teacher mean she can at least manage a group (and managing a bunch of kids is arguably harder than adults)She also seem to love guiding and teaching her kouhaisAnd with her knowledge of the industry, god imagine the future kouhai who got managed by her
I hope someone gets stabbed though
>>33531811This place gets sadder and sadder by the minute
>>33530327Not really.It basically just states that the talents can do whichever brand they want.Fauna and Gura can stick with their CGDCT ways.
>>33530740Timestamp? I bet she blames the boobs
>>33531748anyone that followed jp would hate him already for funneling shit from the girls to his pet project of losers
>>33531767Unless it actually gets released anywhere it's as real as the supposedly leaked Ethyria and Lazulight auditions which haven't been spread around yet.
>>335316844channel isn't (of which /vt/ is a part of, surprise surprise).
>>33531790>Meanwhile Japs on Twitter are still focusing on Peko-chan FGO and the typhoon
EN management really fucked up Myth and Council by not setting expectations, they should have offered all the girls the option of a quick collab with Trash Taste early on for those expectation setting streams. Obviously now they have Tempus they can use Tempus for collabs instead, but there was no Tempus back then so they should have asked Trash Taste. Utter incompetence.
>>33531738kek, says the one saying they're not unicuck while sperging like >>33530561Have another Towa, unicuck.
>>33531246Fun fact: Reddit doesn't watch streams, all the do is watch clips.
>>33531569are you from the opposite timeline?
Can someone pull the top 10 stream of pegors?
>>33531811>cause drama instead of just going through with collabing with whoever you want>do a fucking YASS QUEEEN IMMA COLLAB WITH WHOEVER MHMHMMM tweet to get twitterfag drama ball rolling>management has to basically defend you (not like anyone perceives the other girls as being attacked by homobeggars)at this point having a debut where you say you will collab with homos is opsec. its a requirement, even if you won't. just like they made id3 do it.
>Gura goes viral for an awesome animation and 3D Live.>Rest of HoloEN goes viral over drama and fighting their (rapidly declining) fans.Well then.
Peko FGO or Kronii drama?
>>33525107>or mentioned any of them yetThat's the crazy part honestly, I'm amazed she's actually gone that far. You'd think she would at least be cowed into acknowledging their debuts.
>>33531898dude she's a hikki who has trouble interacting with a takeaway store.she's definitely not CEO material.
>>33531915STFU treerat, I want to see you pegs Ogaman live on stream.
>>33531920They could, but it raises the very uncomfortable question of why they continue to refuse to collab with men when they do so all the time off-stream.
>>33532095JP care more about FGOKronii drama is strictly EN problem
>>33532000I would bet my balls that you are the kekaroo guy
>>33531940It was in her anniversary stream somewhere. I don't care enough to find the timestamp but if you care enough you can probably cross reference with people talking about it in the archives here.
>Vesper pretend playing a doctor with Kronii.This is sounds hot and lewd
>>33532068Doing the opposite is ALSO FINE, just pull a sanseki and say you're not gonna do male collabs. People WILL defend it, and they'll reference the management statement as a shield as well, and the only ones who continue to attack will be outed as the deranged homobeggars they are and rightly shunned.
>>33530033So you're saying that the EN scene needs a couple people to kick the bucket? Is that what you're implying?
>>33532145This is a eunuch general anon we've bet away all our balls
>>33532108That is what people believe anywayAlso no one said CEO, just a manager
>ID 3D showcases were chock full of males>Everybody loves the 3D showcases and there is nary a shit poster in sightCan't believe that indogs are legit less schizo and more mentally strong than EN fans. Burgers were a mistake.
Nothing good ever lasts forever but goddamn they didn't need to speedrun this shit
>>33532095Kronii drama probably. The absolute number 2 talent of EN is having a drama will get more numbers.
>>33532204I never bet
>>33532252>absolute number 2 talent of ENKronii hasn't been this in any metric for months
>>33532199Yes, Hololive has to go through some stabbing incidents for the industry to wake up. However, while HoloJP might be safe, HoloEN might be in danger.
>>33532204You lost them by betting against peko? That's what I did
>>33532186>People WILL defend itLiterally no one will fucking defend it. For 90% of the fanbase, the only reason Gura/Pekora/w/e has not collabed with the boys is because of the scary unicorns. 5% think its because they love them. The other 5% think its because they're manipulative whores who know what makes them money.
>>33532068People like to spout bullshit like this but only Kobo outright said she wants to collab with Stars and male fleshstreamer.
I really think she got some creepy DMs she told managment and the branch have a meeting, that's why gura didn't stream today.
>>33532000Please go back unicuck-schizo. There is plenty of drama on the catalog for you to enjoy.
>>33530230I'm pretty sure 92k people who watched Gura are all her unicorns then, going by your logic
>>33532242Sure thing bud.
>>33531246>105 posters herethe carnage here is split across this thread, the 3-4 bait threads in the catalog, and infinityfar more people are talking about it /here/, especially considering the lurker-poster ratio.
>>33531898You are insane. Pekora is a mental midget who can't organize anything to save her life. Miko is the one who actually organizes huge events and has much more connections to other Hololive members.
>>33532342Aren't her DMs closed?
what a fucking trash generation council wasnot even one of them made it to 50M views in a year and they cause nothing but drama
>>33532105AHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA. If she was going to do it, she would've done it when they debuted. She's made her stance loud and clear with her silence. Before you go dragging up the fact that she mentioned starsJP, she's savvy enough to know that they're small and distant enough that such a small mention doesn't really matter that much.
>>33532309Now you're just full of bullshit. Even on the shitholes that are reddit and youtube, I've seen plenty of people telling off homobeggars because they know not all the girls want to do it for some reason or another. The western audience is all about "talent freedom" so they hate the idea of anyone forcing a streamer to do anything, including streaming more or yes, male collabs.
>>33532309Lol no Marine have talked about this before. Sankisei don't collab with guy because Pekora dislike being around stranger in general, especially if it's a guySo all of them just decided not to
>>33532284Found the newfag.
I don't even understand why this is such a big deal in the first place, Cover's >"Our talents can do whatever they want, collab with males or no males at all, just don't harass them."stance isn't exactly a new thing.The only real issue is that this entire situation dragged on for way too long.
>>33532252>absolute number 2 talentLmao not even fucking close, tourist
>>33532365Why do people always overestimate the amount of people here in /vt/? 4ch is literally one of the smallest vtuber commutinies, falling behind even reddit and discord.
>>33532242>ID 3D showcases were chock full of malesSo you didn't watch them, huh ?
>>33532342The DM's came after vesper posted his schedule and a lot of the kronies sperged out and wrote long schizo like letters in the reasons why the left membership. Kronii knew her members were nutcases so she told management about it.
>>33532434Except rushia
>>33532456they're unironically pulling a "let me have fun"
>>33532308I lost them by lowballing the 2nd STARTEND scrimmage stream.
>>33532309>Literally no one will defend it.That just makes me want to see someone make the statement in EN even more, to see the trashfire that will erupt if that's the case.
>>33532461posts here often eclipse /pol/ during big days anon.I would say you're underestimating just how influential this board truly is.
Bros... Is this the karma for making fun the SUPER 3D?
>>33532456Because its poking a drama nest (from Kronii) then cover themselves getting involves makes it mega news.If I was in tempiss my head would be buried in the fucking sand. There's no way they don't KNOW this is what they're causing, I guess they're all onboard on changing the culture so they can larp as EN3.
>>33530759>495Pot calling kettle lmao
Numberchads, prediction on Queen's FGO Stream?
>>33531246>On the Holo reddit sub, people are praising Kronii's statement.The thing is, you don't see the upvotes/downvote ratio. If you sort thing by controversial (will put the comment who have an upvote/downvote ratio close to 1/1 at the top), you will see a tons of supportive message. People will downvote because it's anonymous, but won't comment to avoid the backslash.
>>33532491I did watch themhttps://youtu.be/VxnwBm49egM?t=2193
>>33532349Fuck off newfag, /#/ is literally the only thread I live in after /NASA/ died
>>33532508I mean, did she collab with mafumafu? No
The funny thing is that NijiEN has gone through many more drama, but somehow they stay intact with no one graduating.On the other hand, this might force Kronii to graduate, thus causing HoloEN to become 9 member with no new debuts in the horizon.
>>33532170Thank you
>>33532434>Pekora started the vtuber unicorns schtick despite being the most unsexiest vtuber alive.Pretty funny ngl.
>>33532621don't say it you fool
you guys realize that if tempus unironically causes a graduation it's fucking over right
>>3353263460k min
>>33532634Starting at 30k floor
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>>33532604It's just a few people spamming mogu mogu on cooldown
>>33532604Kek, thinking vt ins influential in anything is like saying Yagoo is a good guy.
>>33532646>Risu have ONE homo in her stream, Iofi and Moona have none>ID 3D showcases were chock full of maleSSo you don't speak english, got it.
Remember that Kronii always asks Sana's advice first when she goes on a menhera trip but she's gone now
>>33532656>might>if>if only>probably
>>33532634Sub 30k. 29896 will be the peak
>>33532634I'll be generous and say sub 30k.
>>33532430>I've seen plenty of people telling off homobeggars because they know not all the girls want to do it for some reason or anotherYeah, and they qualify it with "because of scary unicorns".
>>33532682In my eyes, pekora is sexy
>>33532646>males
2222 waiting 3 hours and 25min remaining on the clock. Isn't that better than what Gura had at around the same time?
>>33532700not even a graduationif somehow this whole debacle causes some sort of mess like a tempus fan being harassed then it might be over.
>>33532415kek
>>33532604Newfag please, no one truly believe MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD meme unironically.Even on "good' day, there are still more IPs in /MANS/ than here.