/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>Gamer wave for december when they just started the audition campaign.
Wait isnt that a little bit too fast even for nijisanji accelerate?

what did we learn last thread

>>33338076
ID vs ID is real

>>33338076
chumbuds will do whatever they can to bury their heads in the sand and defend their declining shark

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>87,402: Moona (Hololive)
>76,923: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>55,236: Subaru (Hololive)
>40,349: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,313: Salome (Nijisanji)
>19,515: Shion (Hololive)
>17,458: Umise Yotsuha
>15,398: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,352: Lui (Hololive)
>15,298: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,217: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,930: Miko (Hololive)
>13,903: NeruMero (Indie)
>13,689: Noel (Hololive)
>12,383: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,140: Choco (Hololive)
>12,078: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,035: Toko (Nijisanji)
>12,032: Belmond (Nijisanji)
>11,493: Hinano (VSPO)
>10,891: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,139: Ponto Nei (Nijisanji)

>>33338172
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Moona, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
164x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
32x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
10x: Subaru
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>33338172
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
1x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Miko, Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Moona, Sora, Subaru, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
166x: Hololive
83x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
33x: Pekora
17x: Miko
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
10x: Subaru
9x:Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>33338076
That IDCHADS made Pekora and that without Indonesia she would be a mid tier holo.

>>33338076
No one believes in Iofi

>>33338076
Flare lives in the box.

>>33338076
Liver is retarded

>>33338218
so in terms of audience importance its ID audience>>>>powergap>>>>JP>>>>EN?
Since ID seems to be the kingmaker audience while JP and EN are only good for exposure.

Can Iofi hit 50k?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHMGdX1kC00

>>33338196
>>33338219
Pick one already you faggots instead of spamming two different ones every fucking thread

>>33338065
>Iluna auds = Early March
>Iluna debut = Late July
Almost a 5 month cycle

>Gamers auds = Mid August
>Gamers probably debut = Late Nov/Early Dec
About 4 month cycle

since its male only games probably less pool to sift than Iluna auds

>>33338289
but you need to one to live

>>33338314
how did that extra to get in there
i think i'll be back later

>>33338300
I want to be generous and say 60k

>>33326480
>>33311442
>>33326480
>mogged by catalog shitposters in number discussion
Oh no no no numberniggers

>>33338308
>>Gamers auds = Mid August
I forgot they specifically wanted EN male games.

>>33338300
doubt, she's literally the last place holo

I would like to thank ryeschizo for making rye lose her place in EN3. I look forward to her fansly arc.

>>33338300
without doubt. the 3d debuts are guaranteed at least 70k going by moona's performance. the real question is can the shark even get close to that?

>>33338300
>ID
>Getting numbers without Pekoras blessing.
Lol, she'll be lucky to get 30k.

>>33338302
But tally anon said it was CYOA

>>33338300
she'll get 70k on her duet with Sora

Polka and Suisei nendos announced
https://twitter.com/gsc_kahotan/status/1570918202045079552
https://twitter.com/gsc_kahotan/status/1570917951926145024

>>33338443
cakes says that's reine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNKHQsQATls
>Less than 20k views
Where's your VODcope now?

It's always nice seeing Holo parents being supportive. I can't imagine how it must feel for them as well to see something they designed come to life in 3d like that.

>>33338300
>cant sing, cant dance, cant be funny, homobeggar
yeah, no

>>33338300
No
Even if Sora and Watame showed up hell maybe she will bring oga as well

>>33338587
I mean, it also helps that making content of hologirls can make you more money if they are more popular.

>>33338300
Risu and Iofi will mog the shark.

>>33338457
that was for the fuwa fubar graph, tsukasa was unequivocally declared the winner and some retard decided it doesn't count even though his earlier stream with the same meatbag ratio is left untouched in his annual golds

>>33338300
Nah, there will be a homo as a guest. Expect a dip.

>>33338662
tally anon should have counted vspo and goldship then cause this is gonna be a reoccurring problem going forward.

Holokeks status?

>>33338769
>>33338196
>>33338219
winning the month

>>33338587
Becoming a Holo mama is huge, but having the character do well must be even more gratifying. Didn’t Fubukis mama drop some absurd dono? They are making bank doing Fubuki clones for various gacha

>>33338587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAyw_7eroCg

always remember

>>33338300
Sub 50k

>>33338805
imagine being Pekora's or Marine's mom

oh right that worms collab is today, and its going to take place over 3 different days even. Amelia providing lots of good food for catalogsisters in the coming week.

>>33338974
it's one per week

>>33338974
so they actually try when they collab with the homos

>>33338931
Who's peko's illust anyway? I barely ever heard about them

Dont let all this shitposting distract you from the fact that vesper has become a sub 3.5k streamer and that this bleed didnt start until the first collab with the girls.

>>33338974
What are the chances the chat will be membership-only?

>catalog
Refined actual number discussion for gentlemen.
>/#/ - Numbers
Turd worlders baiting each other and using only le max CCV for shitflinging purposes.

Take the catalog pill anon.

>>33339080
https://twitter.com/yuukihagure

>>33338974
3 days now??

>>33338769
24 hours away from watching their shark get BTFO

>>33339172
yea the two group days and then a final with the top 3 from each group.

>>33339114
ogey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VrlgWhXg

first time seeing Botan playing at this timeslot

>>33339117
it would be the smart move, so high I would say

>>33339217
>tempus collab can only hit 8k now
damn

Will this Tempus Worms thing beat Gura's Big Brain collab?

>>33339222
Maybe she just wants to finish it as fast as possible.

>>33339210
where the fuck are these tournaments for holoen, suddenly now it's time to organise stuff

>>33339319
>amelia's channel
lmao no

>>33339257
Yes? It was a split POV and had their small ass box split into 4

>>33339324
Well having 4 people who wanna sign up makes it easier to arrange stuff to be fair, but yea it is kinda striking how all of a sudden Mori and Ame are organizing shit for once.

>>33338076
Fucking nothing

>>33339319
>Mori debuff
>Ame debuff
>Reine
>2 POVs
No

>>33339319
12k is my conservative estimate

>regis under 2k despite vr being buff content
what went wrong?

>>33339324
>>33339384 (me)
Having 4 More people I mean.

>>33339384
Didn't Ame also organize collabs the first years? I think she did the Don't Starve collab

>>33339217
>Stabalized in the 5k area
>Can only get above above and near those numbers on collabs and events post female collab..
The homobeggar/unityfag audience rrat is getting stronger each day.

>>33339415
>>33339416
2 povs? 10k on ame's channel then

/news/ roundup for 16-09-2022
>>33314262
Recent clip numbers
>>33299494
>>33299520
>>33299728
>>33299761

>>33339384
What? Mori organised Jump King, Pokémon, Eikaiwa, TTRPG, Teatime and is the main one behind CHaDCast. Ame is behind all of ENs VR shit. What fucking world do you live in?

>>33339470
They also stop showing up to your male/female collab if you do it long enough. Poor Kobo lmao

>>33339319
>No council
>No Gura
>Split POV
It won't even get 20k combined ccv

>>33339436
see
>>33339470

>>33339482
Magni has a commentator POV with vesper, I don't know if they are gonna show the game or is more like a watch along

>>33339436
>what went wrong?
Debuting male chuubas into the female chuuba company.

>>33339502
>Jump King
shit
>Pokemon
shit
>Eikawa
not bad
>TTRPG
unfinished
>Teatime
meh
>EN VR
kino every time
Quantity doesn't mean quality.

have fun jerking yourself off for the next three (3) hours, gonna do vod and music reps

>>33339569
>>EN VR
>kino every time
Are you sure about that?

>>33339502
>TTRPG
hows that going by the way

>>33339546
>spills oil on you

https://youtu.be/yj3NqUzMsnY
>IGN

>>33339569
>I-it doesn’t count because I didn’t like it

>>33339595
>nijifag mad that nobody went his pathetic thread
lmao

>>33339595
will do m8 thanks

>>33339611
Oh, uhhh, Mori ditched it to run another one for males I think.

>>33339749
>Mori ditched it to run another one for males I think.
She wishes.

>>33339611
Still the collab series in EN with the second most episodes after HoloTalk.

>>33339749
She's still doing that for TT?

>>33338300
60-70k

>>33339117
Doubt it, unless someone is crazy enough to get a spam bot

>>33339117
Live chat moves too fast for it to matter. Complaining about male collabs is only really visible in comments on vods/community posts.

>>33339749
>>33339887
That was an sponsored oneshot

Is this going to be the largest bait avalanche this board has ever seen heretofore? Fitting it's a Worms collab of all things.

Fauna mentioned that she's at the cap for emote slots. (5k members) Not surprising, just something to note.

>>33340143
for now yes.
next month is gonna be something else for both companies though.

>>33340217
We knew already, like, three weeks ago

>>33340143
The Gura Risu baits will be bigger

>>33340247
What would that be? EN3 wouldn't be bait that would be a legit event not just people shitposting for responses.

>>33339222
gen 5 used to stream in this time slot when they first debuted, except Polka.

>>33340143
the answer is: it depends
for example if kronii hadn't laughed as hard as she did during the dbd collab, I can assure that the entire situation would've been much more mild

>>33338587
Meanwhile my oshi is abandoned by her mama...

>>33340311
first ever tri-company collab.
screencap me.

SISTERS IS THIS TRUE?! I FEEL BETRAYED RN

>>33340311
EN3 collabing with Tempus immediately via mandate by Management. For NijiEN, maybe their 3D quality or just as usual with JP companies, they'd be regulated to 1 song but as a group instead of solos

https://youtu.be/2YeeQWitHx8

>>33338587
Has any member ever been disowned by their parent? besides IRyS

>>33340417(me)
Oh, also that Idol title timeloop

>>33340217
her recent membership vod average is 5k+ so depending on what % of members you think watch all streams she probably has quite a bit more than 5k

>>33340390
Is this that same faggot that had the Ollie screencap about fans begging for collabs? He needs to have his channel deleted. Falseeyed isn't great but the lamb guy is gutter trash.

>>33340466
Aqua?

>>33340466
Magni seems to have hinted at that with the can of worms thing. I dunno if it's just strained but Kanata with her mom(no mention of dad dad)

>>33340466
Does Nacho ever talk about Gura anymore? Neither of them got the other in their Twitter bio anymore.

>>33338552

>>33340530
Yeah, it's Khyo.
Literally worse than Oboretai.

>>33340571
nacho is probably embarrassed because gura reclined so much

>>33340466
Gura. Her artist mama became a nijifag for some reason.

>>33340466
REDJUICE HATE

>>33311442
>>33326480
>>33320865
The Chad catalog poster vs the virgin /#/ low IQ third worlder

>>33340566
They meant their vtuber parent, anon

>>33340566
By "parents" that anon means their designer, not IRL parents.

>>33340466
Miko original?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-hwTE_O8WY&ab_channel=GawrGuraCh.hololive-EN

GURA LOVE

>>33340466
Suisei

>>33339319
>low-tier holos
>no council at all
>no promotions until a few hours before the stream
>split POV
Doubt it. Maybe in a combined CCV but that's a big MAYBE

>Nijisanji EN is playing Goose Goose Duck instead of Among Us for Rosemi's birthday.

Hm, I wonder why...

forget about the worms collab for a moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-hwTE_O8WY

>>33340617
Nothing is worse than drama channels. At least clipfaggots don't have a voice and people who actually watched the streams drown out the rrats. Drama channels run a narrative and the drama faggots eat that shit up no matter what

With one day left before Gura's 3D Live, are there any revised opinions about how it will do?

>>33340694
Well so much for finding out anything for the description lol.

>>33340466
Suisei, kinda, yes, her original parent is herself, but the artist she got for her further designs eventually disappeared and deleted all suisei mentions and retweets from his account

>>33340390
Probably taken out of context but qrd? I'm not giving clicks to that faggot.

>>33340708
d-duck game > among us
IT'S JUST BETTER OK

>>33340694
Okay, if in 12 hrs there is still no JP and ID to shill Goomba, then it really is owarida

>>33340723
100k+. I predicted 80k on Moona so that should be the range

>>33340694
Only 215 waiting, grim. Sub 1k? Is she a 3view now?

>>33340694
>No description
WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB GOOMBUS, ANNOUNCE YOUR SECRET GUEST ALREADY

>>33340723
60k

>>33340694
Description really gives it all away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-hwTE_O8WY
Is up fuckers, prepare the cunny and the doomposting.

>>33340694
Out of all the numberfagging things, this one is the biggest. Just a reminder the reason she ever got a 120k karaoke is because she put the frame up and had to delay it 24 hours

>>33340694
Damn, her new manager works hard.

>>33340743
It's drama channel anon, of course they would take things out of context

>>33340789
>100k
EN audience is dead, everyone is moving to NijiEN

>>33340723
60-70k
Gura isnt that popular anymore.

>>33340723
80k
honestly I hope it goes higher than that but Gura chose EN primetime over JP primetime

>>33340356
RORU RUMAO

>>33340637
Nah, that isn't it.
It's that Nacho basically dove head-first into streaming on Twitch and integrated herself into the JP FPS circle on there.

>>33340458
>Have you ever wanted to get big on youtube but lack the discernible skills or talents to be entertaining or interesting?
NijiEN should watch this video

>>33340755
There's literally people saying this in the Niji EN thread. It's more or less "We've always been at war with Eastasia".

>>33340789
It will be another 60k concert, just because she refuses to promote it.

>>33340143
Were you not here in January? Or for TT forma de original? Or hell for Rushia yabbing herself out of existence?

>>33340723
her last one got like 60k. i can't see this doing better.

>>33340851
>Sunday morning JP time
Trash numbers

So whats in contention for Gold today aside from King and Iofi? Are there any potential dark horses?

>>33340905
It will be a stress test for the EN time slot, we'll see if Cover can build an audience for it.

>>33340879
This is the absolute bare minimum anon, and she still doesn't tweet about it.
For reference ID1 girls tweeted about their concert daily.

>>33340714
Not only that, his stream is literally sponsored by Idol Corp (Israeli vtuber company). You're reporting news on people who are paying you money? I'm not expecting professional journalistic ethics out of a dramatuber but that's like..high school newspaper club level knowledge.

>>33340907
Nah, that is actually what got her gachis and unicorns in such a state.
Mumei's collab with starsJP happened and ultimately no-one gave a fuck for that reason.

>>33341070
The Worms tournament with the male collab western fans have been asking for, it could get gold.

>>33340887
>he thinks only EN audience will watch
It is Sunday JST and we saw Sana's graduation numbers. This will have SEA, JP, CN, KR and NA.

I'm curious to see what an ID 3d without first army shilling looks like. Iofi is the best shot right?

>>33341164
Risu would be the neutral bet.

>>33341148
>jews sponsoring a drama channel?
what?

>>33341082
Are you dumb? We've seen the upper limit of EN timeslot, fucking Gura 195k outfit stream was on EN timeslot.
The difference this time is Gura ABSOLUTELY REFUSES to do groundwork, 2 days since the announcement and she hasn't tweeted a thing.

>>33340708
cause Paul Li and Noor are still employed and breathing. Imagine NijiEN without those chinks breathing down their talent's throats

>>33341164
Hololive clearing out their primetime block for it is default shilling. It's 'watch this because there's literally nothing else" and that's the absolute strongest buff of all.

https://youtu.be/5-hwTE_O8WY

>>33341164
There's a non-zero chance that she will have homos as a guest. It's debuff central.

>>33340723
If Moona was already a hard guess for most people, Gura will be the biggest question of them all. If that doesn't make too much sense, let me explain:

In Moona's case, there was always a wonder of just how many JPs would shill the live and how much fans would be directed to it. From her word bubble, the SCs and overall shilling, it was pretty obvious that a hefty sum watching were JOPs. THAT was the big turning point in how many guesses shifted from "60-75k" to "oh shit, 80-90k is possible" because no one really expected THAT many JPs to go out and promote her.

With Gura, we already understand her potential. We know what she's capable of, but we also know how fickle EN fans are as well. Some things they turn out for, some things they don't. But because Gura is such a driving force in the industry, and because there's this mystery behind what guests are appearing and what the announcements are, there's this possibility looming around the corner that this -could- be bigger than any of us could ever guess.
Everyone is tempering their expectations and rightfully so. I think 80-90k is kind of certain here, at least to me. But because of her past, it's really fucking hard to ignore the reality that she COULD in fact get 100-120k. Fuck, we can't even dispel the possibility of more. This is the same girl who got 194k for her first outfit reveal. We REALLY can't say what can happen

>>33341257
gura will never experience this. she only gets ass o'clock in the morning for a huge chunk of her fanbase

>>33339749
She wishes. Vesper is running the Tempus one, and he's nerding out so hard over it that she'd have to pry it out of his cold, dead hands.

>>33340738
What? Why?

>>33341267
Depends how late they appear. If they're in the first set....that would be grim. If it's 45 minutes in after she's peaked it's whatever.

>>33341239
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1570931720542916609
Speaking of that
lol

>>33341239
Nigger she's tweeted and pinned the announcement. She has the live up. She's definitely doing the standard shilling.

It's not her that is lacking ,its the Cover shilling + JPs. The entire EN sphere knows already

>>33341009
Are you implying that prime NA hours produce bad numbers for a stream like that?
Sounds like a dead market to me then.

>>33341301
They felt cheated by their contract, it's the Mizuryu Kei drama basically.

>>33341277
>We know what she's capable of,
we know what she WAS capable of. it isn't 2020 any more.

>>33341337
Preparing the groundwork to blame Cover + JP Holo I see.

>>33341327
She should've streamed today. Would've been more effective.

>>33341293
Gura could do it in JP time and get a better number but it's not fair to her actual fanbase, which revolves around the 8 PM EST slot. Getting a higher peak CCV isn't the ultimate goal. For us it is, but for actual vtubers and companies it is not. It's better for Gura's actual fans and the general EN audience to watch it live than some bored Japanese tourists that will never otherwise watch her.

>>33341154
Worms won't even get cripple gold thanks to Rosemi. I'll bet my balls on this, remember there are 2 POVs. 10k max on each pov.

>>33341337
Retard, ID1 girls tweeted about their 3D DAILY since their announcement.
Gura tweeted once ever since her announcement two fucking days ago.

>>33341374
what do you expect, it's never the ens fault

>>33341164
Risu. Fucking treerat overlapping everything

now let's see if any of the JPs acknowledge the tweet.

>>33341419
Wait whats rosemi doing?

>>33341401
Streaming drains her too much, best she comes in fresh. Unless it's all prerecorded, then that's whatever.

>>33341452
Birthday stuff, she got 12k on an unarchived Karaoke that got raided by like 4 different people.

>>33341337
You expect her JP senpais to shill about her 3D even though she's done almost everything to sabotage it?
Holy shit you ensharts are entitled fucks.

>>33341277
Pros for big numbers:
>early frame for all the subs to get a chance to see it
>previous big event ceilings (195k, 112k)
>63k for a fucking surprise 3d

Cons:
>shitty NA timeslot that's reclined massively for all EN vtubers. whatever numbers she gets here she'd have doubled in JP timeslot
>no shilling from JPs (yet)
>Gura has used her 3d waaay fucking more than Moona, including another "live" just 3 months ago

>>33341489
Its her bday today?

>>33341419
Rosemi peaked at 12400. Decent but not untouchable especially for a one POV collab.

>>33341373
Her biggest streams were in 2021. shut the fuck up already, take a break from posting this shit

>>33341475
Bullshit, her 3D isn't even live like Moona's.
She's just being lazy as usual.

>>33341525
>previous big event ceilings (195k, 112k)
>63k for a fucking surprise 3d
both of these things are irrelevant. gura has reclined a lot since then and you can't compare the numbers ot what she gets now.

>>33341529
from what I could see on Vrabi yea. She is doing an endurance at the moment after the karaoke.
It's kinda grim graph

>>33341239
This is over a year later, so it's a new stress test.

>>33341529
No she just does birthday stuff on random days sometimes, it's weird but a lot of her fans really like it.

>>33341164
Well, to be fair Iofi is literally the absolute rock bottom in Hololive by a huge margin

>>33341577
Worms will mog this 100% maybe even the mc'ing homos as well.

>>33341601
Anon how many hours a day do you spend in this thread?

>>33341619
That's not how you stress test thing anon.

>>33341627
>No she just does birthday stuff on random days sometimes
Damn they really are numberfags.

>>33341475
Anon, she's not in Japan. It's 100% pre-recorded, and there's really no excuse not to have streamed today to help build up momentum to the live.

>>33341641
It has to be more than one guy. He just posts it like a bot, to every reply

Watch: Gura will get 2020 numbers!

>>33341641
He does it for free.

>>33341611
This is accounting the fact that all of NijiEN not streaming and shilling this btw. But props to them for giving space to Rosemi.

>>33341659
>she's not in Japan. It's 100% pre-recorded,
Did she say anything about this? And if its not pre-recorded then it might make the yagoo got a new 3d studio in NA rrat true.

>>33341525
You forgot to add these as the pros
>The first-ever Cover produced 3DLive
>Mystery guests. JOPs will at least check it out for a chance to see their oshi

uhhh where's Subaru weekend slot bros?

Will Gura's waiting room surpass homoworms before it starts?

I just can't with Gura, not anymore.
She's done the least amount of stuff in Myth, even Kiara worked harder than her.
I don't think it will happen, but I hope her 3D gets less than Risu, maybe then she'll try a little bit harder.

>>33341713
wait is it actually her bday or is it >>33341627

>>33341783
anon, you are making me cringe

>>33341768
Doubt she will even look at the numbers

>>33341733
Mystery guests is a debuff. She might as well be broadcasting
>Marine, Mori and Shion
She needs to hard confirm others.

>>33341768
risu will get at least 70k. gura will be lucky if she gets 60.

>>33341729
Yeah, it's Ame's studio.
Did you not watch her multiple 3D appearance since HoloFes? Do you think they fly her to Japan for that?

>>33341768
All of Myth and Coucil are lazy and are only relying on the hololive brand.
Nijien is actually more hardworking than them and would get double their numbers if they had the hololive brand.

>>33341768
Is this the she doesn't deserve it Ayame guy?

>>33339222
She has nepolabo collab later

>>33341637
You really think so? Remember who's playing today. None of these people get great numbers individually. The super hyped dead by daylight collab which also had 2 POVs and 5 people got 11k and 13k, barely scraping past this. And Worms is not as popular as DBD.

>>33341783
>>33341713(me)
I know Jack shit about NijiEN, I just thought it's really her bday with how every NijiEN gave her space

>>33341756
No. Moona's waiting room was 25k+ 40k Pekora

>>33341843
Delusional

>>33341849
really? please don't lie to me...

>only 900 waiting
grim

>>33341363
Tshima Nari? What happened? They didn't get the clause where future content should be created by them? Suisei is really ruthless huh.

>>33341835
>Yeah, it's Ame's studio.
I mean there was a rrat saying that yagoo went to NA in order to scout for a new studio thats why i was asking. Since it was strange that he would only go there for a con.

>>33341835
Anon, not Ame's studio, that thing isn't up to snuff for 'Official cover-produced 3d' levels. Probably did rent a studio for it though to do it properly.
We'll see in 24 hours for sure though.

>>33341844
Ojou has valid reason, I doubt Gura's mom is dying of cancer.

Speaking of waiting rooms, why the fuck do 1k chumbies rush every Gura stream the moment its up. It can be a huge buff stream or a big debuff, she'll start with 1k within minutes

>>33341835
>Ame studio
>for an official cover produced 3d live

>It's on track to surpass the Worms collab waiting room
She shouldn't have invited the homos and invited Gura instead.

Why are people thinking that Gura will get lower number for her official 3D than her outfit reveal lmao.

>>33341931
rrat is rrat for a reason anon.
Beside, there's no way they could get a brand new studio up and running this soon. It's only been a month since CRX.

>>33342018
no one wanted to participate in the worms thingy, only reine

>>33342035
and theres no way Ame's studio can handle a official cover produced 3d.

>>33342020
Shit poster's have posted "It's not 2020 anymore" so many times they unironically psyoped a significant portion of this thread

>>33341925
No, they felt cheated when they saw hololive exploded in 2020 and demanded more money.

>>33341991
She has thousands of gachikois.

>>33341853
If fucking Regis and DBD with only Kronii, Bae and Mori, then this worms one will probably do better. It was also hyped to shit by both sides

>>33342020
she might not even beat her latest outfit reveal

>>33342018
>Gura joining an open invitation collab
>Gura reading discord
NGMI delusional anon

>>33341919
it is listed on holodex, on Lamy ch
2 hours before Iofi 3D showcase

Just a hypothetical here, don't think too much about it, but what would the state of /here/ be like if Gura somehow defies all odds and gets the highest CCV 3D live in Holo history after literal months of shitposting and reclining posts?

>>33342126
>Nepolabo funneling to iofi
now this is interesting.

>>33342020
I mean without a doubt, she will get less than her first outfit reveal.

But second of all, 3d lives actually do tend to get way shittier numbers than outfit reveals for popular holos. Dunno why the fuck. Remember, this shit ain't a 3d debut, just a live. The amount of tourists that give a shit about "Cover live" vs "kanauru live" is very small

>>33342149
>lol, she couldn't even beat Coco's graduation

>>33342080
eh if 1 week setup can have kiara quality, anything is possible. Kiara's concert issue with cover studio was more about the waiting queue rather than the data.

>>33342020
The outfit reveal in 2021 was something very special and got super-charged by fashion week hyping up all the outfits.
194k is way too high for a 3d Live, that's delusional. The weird 60k lowballs are too low though.

>>33342149
Sisters would go into overdrive with JP vs EN timeloops.

>>33342116
That's my point. Open invitation = inviting Tempus. What she should have done is to DM the girls personally.

>>33342149
Chumbud victory lap and smugposting for months. Shitposters would slink away until they think of some other bait. That's about it.

>>33342020
>Her number is trending down, albeit not as dramatic as nijinigger say it is.
>She already did a 3D concert
>She has done nothing to hype it beyond stating that there will be some secret guest.
I will grudgepost the fuck out of you when Risu gets more than Gura.

>>33342149
They would shitpost about koshien being higher and how if she was still popular she would have beat it

>>33342149
EN vs JP circa 2020 2021 shitposting all over again.

>>33342149
Everyone will be happy and excited, of course.

>>33341835
nah. ame studio was missing hand tracking. that's why kiara's birthday live was rejected by cover.
she's mentioned doing studio recording several time. it sounded like somewhere local/close-by to her. the one for holofes was done around nov-dec iirc. another round of recording was before (apr-may) and after (jul-aug) the off-collab.

>>33342076
Ame's explanation is really bullshit.
>no one replied but Reine
>then I invited Tempus and Mori, Bae and Zeta just warped in
Also Tempus being huge hypocrites who take every single collab given lmao. I would respect the hustle if all of them didn't brag about muh solo content, muh don't think about numbers but then bite down on every bone holos throw them. And don't give me the "I can't say no" to a fucking open invite collab.

>>33342210
#ameway

>>33342149
why do you think people wouldn't timeloop forever no matter what happens

>>33342149
/jp/ would become unusable and chumbuds would be eternally smug.

>>33340905
Gura got her 194 in that timeslot. I’m not saying she’ll get anywhere close to that tomorrow but Mori got 135 in the JP slot with shilling and funneling and Gura still blew past that

The Worms tourney got shilled hard and has every buff, so this will pretty much determine the ceiling for Tempus.

>>33342203
>eh if 1 week setup can have kiara quality
that was subpar quality anon and that was the full extent of ame studio.
If this is ame studio then rip goomba.

>>33342149
>Besides Summer Climax
I'm going to assume you're not counting that, because 200k is a fucking ABSURD bar to cross, that would require Gura to beat 147k. Given the lack of advertising from her (Streams every day leading up to it, hard-shilling like Suisei, etc) I doubt it'll hit 147k.

>>33342149
she'd have to get billie eilish as a guest to achieve something like that.

>>33342093
That is retarded? They can just get those money back in comiket and designing for other indies? Nabi basically based her career around "I am Watson Amelia's mama" and sold her art to the highest leec- I mean highest bidders.

>>33342315
>Ceiling for Tempus
>More females than males
What did you mean by this?

>>33342149
"""chumbuds""" would start a EN v JP timeloop

>>33342149
I would eat my words, but I think that would not bodes well for EN.
Gura needs an impetus to change, she can't be this fucking lazy and expect chumbuds to pick up her slack every single time.

>>33342149
There is literally no wincon for Gura.
Let's say she somehow beats Suzie, in fucking NA primetime mind you. Then what?
>4.1 million subs
>barely beat 1.6 million subs
>RORU!
You clearly weren't around for the 195k CCV outfit reveal. It didn't shut anyone up, they went right back to doomposting her numbers the next stream.

>>33342353
It has every Tempus in it plus guests.

>>33342093
Now, understandably that was ages ago, but do ou have any sources for these claims?

>>33342371
>There is literally no wincon for Gura.
beating coco numbers

>>33342286
What? From your post, it's clear that Ame invited Tempus directly after no one responded to her open invite except Reine. They can't say no after that.

>>33342224
>Risu gets more than Gura
You're setting her up for failure with that.
Moona is like, I dunno, 2x-3x as popular as Risu, probably more, and got directly shilled and funneled by Pekora, and got 87. Which is fucking awesome, but even that is quite slippable for shark 3d live.

>>33342332
Like I said, it's literally another Mizuryu kei.

You know one thing I wish Gura did (and not just to shill the 3d): karaoke rebroadcasts.

Stick that shit in JP primetime every time you do one in NA primetime.

>>33341525
Was Gura's big outfit number also in her usual time slot? I would assume that there were plenty JP tourists for that, so if it was at the same time there's an outside chance they could show up for this (not in the same numbers I'm sure).

>>33342149
the sister will seethe as usual, and the time loop HoloEn Vs Holowhatever branch starts again. if Gura somehow beat all of that they will shitpost about their Koshien. and as add-on bonus obviously they will call Gura whore out of jelaousy

>>33342305
That first outfit reveal had tons of non-hololive fans tourists.

>>33342402
anon the guy basically deleted everything suisei related so finding tweets from years ago is gonna be hard.

>/#/ niggers
CCV CCV CCV CCV CCV. I'M TOO DUMB TO DISCUSS NUMBERS THAT AREN'T OBVIOUS AND DIRECT. ALSO I ONLY USE THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF SHITFLINGING BETWEEN COMPANIES.
>catalog Chads
Ah yes, this financial report was a fascinating insight into Nijisanji and Anycolor. I hope they release more data like this for us to analyze.

To help people gauge Gura's potential numbers, here is her top 10 in the past 365 days

>peak :: date :: title (nameEn) :: video_id
>112093 :: 2021-12-12 :: NEW OUTFIT REVEAL #GURAPARTY (Gawr Gura) :: fH2L5O8CmOM
>63036 :: 2022-06-21 :: 【BIRTHDAY】PARTY TIME! #gawrgura (Gawr Gura) :: lsFr7NzVVM8
>52622 :: 2022-06-20 :: 【KARAOKE】 #amesame (Gawr Gura) :: oTcuzkiU-XE
>50982 :: 2022-01-09 :: . . . ? (Gawr Gura) :: nA_dh5agT78
>43127 :: 2022-06-17 :: 【UNARCHIVED】4 MILLION Celebration singing! (Gawr Gura) :: onN6jLXrUZY
>42785 :: 2021-12-13 :: JACKBOX with MYTH (Gawr Gura) :: fg0YRiHiJkc
>41710 :: 2021-09-16 :: [UNARCHIVED] jazzy singing shark (Gawr Gura) :: tf4drNFLbT4
>40764 :: 2022-04-05 :: [UNARCHIVED] la laaaa la (Gawr Gura) :: Gm_zeU3Hr10
>40354 :: 2022-06-20 :: BIRTHDAY COUNTDOWN + Call ins! (Gawr Gura) :: u7EWIbzTKAY
>39455 :: 2022-04-02 :: 【 ? 】 (Gawr Gura) :: r12ApuXBpPM

And here is her top 10 overall
>194140 :: 2021-05-07 :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】Gawr Gura #CatShark (Gawr Gura) :: QdG2fpj1ybk
>119493 :: 2020-11-13 :: [UNARCHIVED KARAOKE] I sing #GAWRGURA (Gawr Gura) :: WnHaQOhuj_s
>112093 :: 2021-12-12 :: NEW OUTFIT REVEAL #GURAPARTY (Gawr Gura) :: fH2L5O8CmOM
>76134 :: 2020-10-24 :: [AMONG US] SHARK IS NOT SUS #holoAmon9us (Gawr Gura) :: hDGsg-X6kTk
>68474 :: 2020-10-01 :: [KARAOKE] Shark sing #GAWRGURA #HololiveEnglish (Gawr Gura) :: jzD_IGjaFTQ
>67938 :: 2020-10-11 :: [MINECRAFT] HOLO EN SERVER #HololiveEnglish (Gawr Gura) :: NS3_sNTwIRw
>66971 :: 2021-01-23 :: [2MILLION PARTY] HOLOLIVE KARAOKE!! #gurats2M (Gawr Gura) :: qTwHCC4stu8
>65511 :: 2020-10-24 :: [MINECRAFT] MOM? IM LOST. #GAWRGURA #HololiveEnglish (Gawr Gura) :: YTbvDqCYID8
>63900 :: 2020-11-08 :: [A WAY OUT] WE'RE COMING FOR YOU HARVEY (Gawr Gura) :: EBIn-P0bgNY
>63036 :: 2022-06-21 :: 【BIRTHDAY】PARTY TIME! #gawrgura (Gawr Gura) :: lsFr7NzVVM8

I say the overperformance would be beating the 112093 one, and the underperformance would be trailing the recent 63036

>>33342414
Anon, she clearly then extended the open invite to also reach Tempus. The alternative is some retardation where
>she open invites everyone
>no reply
>she then directly invites each Tempus, but didn't think to directly invite the girls

>>33342399
I think this might be true for Magni's POV

>>33342414
>I invited everyone but nobody responded and the other people only appeared after tempus agreed.

>>33342305
we all know that that was back then and this is now
circumstances are different

Gura's japanese fanbase are oji-sans who like that she sings 80s music. Straight from Yagoo's mouth.
These people are responsible adults and they'll e up at 10 o'clock sharp on a sunday for their oshi

Based on what happened with Moon 3D Live, I'm never going to take predictions here seriously again. It's just a bunch of shitposts

>>33342481
Right oops, I forgot about that little issue. The only competing theory I've heard was they were concerned over Cover getting into shit with China and cut ties over that, but money being the issue seems more likely.

If JP members are going to shill Gura's live, they should do it today, there is no point in just tweeting about it tomorrow at 9am JST when a lot of ojisans are still sleeping and there aren't any JP streams to funnel her. JOPs need to know it beforehand

>>33342502
>anycolors magic numbers
lol

>>33342451
Her big outfit number was buffed by golden week+ first time buff. EN's ceiling really has reclined since then, whatever others want to say. We've seen fucking Mori barely get 79k for her 3d live and that had all the shilling bells and whistles this thread is demanding, JP primetime all to herself too.

>>33342509
60k looks like a pretty safe estimate

>>33342546
I fucking predicted she would get 80k, last samurais were just being dumb.

>>33342286
Well, Tempus kinda reclined once all the tourist left. They have to use collabs to prop up their numbers. Their absolute floors without collabs: Axel and Regis are 1k streamer, Magni is a 2k streamer while Vesper is a 3k streamer. Not that bad compare to JP stars but they are trying to grapple with the reality that they can never get back their debut medians.

>>33342210
sister, falseflagger, whoever you are, Ame hasn't done a non-fullMyth collab with Gura since fucking April (overwatch full stack)

Ame ripped that bandage off in like early 2021 or late 2020, the vast majority of shipbeggers know that Amesame / Gurame has been dead for forever

>>33342596
If you're so smart put your balls on a Gura prediction.

>>33342573
Koyori didn't even mention it in Asakoyo. I don't think any of the JPs really care.

>>33342509
Caveat, the 50,982 peak for the ? outfit happened during PEAK CCVID. Understandably annotating that sort of thing is a pain in the ass, but just for clarity' sake for anyone looking at the list.

>>33342437
Gura doesn't have that sort of min-max drive. She doesn't want to optimize her channel numbers, she can barely psychologically handle her current level of popularity. She has anxiety every time she has to hit the live button on a public stream. She streams half the time these days in members because it's the only time she feels comfortable.
It would be awesome though, good advice, her manager should just do it for her...

Whatever happens with Gura's 3D, I hope some retard from here will grudgepost every single wrong prediction from the last 24 hs

>>33342633
I would almost guarantee that is just on Gura not reading her DMs

>>33342530
>IDs
>Mori
>Bae
So, the usual suspects.

>>33342634
>ccvid cope

>>33342651
we've talked about this for like 20 threads, no one's that autistic

>>33342633
Gura couldn't even bother shilling her stream, why do you think she'd have bothered giving Koyori permission

>>33342399
I don't think it's really all that indicative of anything for Tempus. The thing is, most Tempus fans don't really care about the girls being there. It might be a nice bonus for some, but it's not really being hyped all that much from their side. This is an Ame project, and it's her fans that are going to care the most about it, for better or for worse.

>>33342437
shes commented on those before and i can't remember exactly what she said but she essentially doesn't like them/want to do them

>>33342679
The only stuff i find weird is that nobody supposedly replied to her for the collab and only replied to her after tempus agreed.

>>33342596
All thanks to Pekora of course.

>>33342673
High chance. Koyori can't even shill for her. I seriously have no idea why ENs won't promote themselves more.

>>33342651
That’s a lot of 60k- predictions to grudgepost

>>33342628
If the rrat is true and the secret guest is Miku, then 90k is fair estimate, but my gut says 70k

>>33342712
Shouldnt the permision come from cover instead of gura?

>>33342731
I mean, I am guessing that once the boys were in more talks were done because I bet there was no shot of ame playing alone with the boys. Either managers got involved or ame reached to the usual girls to fill in

>>33342731
what i think happened:

she does a @here or @everyone in a HoloID + HoloEN shared server and only Reine responds positively

a couple days pass, she decides fuck it and posts to the HoloproEN server and all Tempus say OK

she goes back to the other kaigai girls server and says, well, now we got 6 people including me, can we at least get to 10? and then the last 4 hop on from there

Gura would get less than Mori 3D, mark my word.

>>33342752
It's bizarre Koyori has to get permissions to talk about Hololive news. She probably should have started doing it without asking for perms, it might be a case of "Oh, since you're asking, yeah get permissions for every topic".
I think a lot of these girls need to learn about the fine art of begging forgiveness vs asking permission especially for minor shit

>>33342815
Anon the permission in this case isn't really "am I allowed to talk about this", but more "will this person be fine with me talking about this".

>>33342634
given it beat niji main channel's new year mahjong, she would've done well if CCVID was in effect

>>33342752
what if Gura doesn't want the JP audience or doesn't care about it?

Just a reminder so people don't forget, this is the Holo members who either shilled or participated in chatting about Moona's 3D live:
>Sora
>Roboco
>Miko
>Fubuki
>Aki
>Matsuri
>Subaru
>Pekora (Literally had a stream dedicated to her)
>Watame
>Towa
>Kanata
>Polka
>Lamy
>Lui
>Koyori (Asakoyo)
>All of ID
>Kiara
>Bae
>Mori
>Various ENs brought it up during stream
>Achan
>Nadoka
>Yagoo

That's basically a minimum of THIRTY Hololive affiliates who brought attention to Moona's 3D live. I don't think Gura can ever match that much traction, but I hope at least she can find half of them who'd be willing to bring attention to it

>>33342149
A singular stream isn't enough to change anyone's mind, especially if EN CCV stays otherwise the same.

>>33342731
they simply don't want to play worm lmao
but after the cocks were invited ofc bae & mori will join

>>33342731
My guess? She might be begging in the general channel because they didn't have enough people then enter the usual suspects. As for why no one replied to her was because the girls were waiting to see who joined the collab.

>>33342719
>I don't think it's really all that indicative of anything for Tempus.
It's indicative of how popular homo integration is with the wider holoEN box. If this was a real holoEN tournament composed entirely of myth and councilrys members, how much more popular would it have been?

>>33342845
Newfag, even Coco asked permission for her asacoco stuff.

>>33342883
Kiara wanted to play worms

>>33342859
Pretty sure JP love Gura as much as they love Moona

>>33342891
Not by much?
It's a fucking WORMS you faggot.

>>33342859
It just shows how far EN actually is from Hololive itself. It's barely even the same entity any more.

>>33342845
>doing it without asking for perms,
the state of ENkeks lmao, imagine Koyo somehow taking some out of context gura moment, ask no permission to feature it on asakoyo and chumkiddies went nut on her like it was with fbk and iofi

It seems most /#/ predictions are 60k for Gura's 3D Live, with the most optimistic prediction being 100k.

>>33342845
i mean i can see the reasoning, imagine if koyori announced it without realizing that gura hasn't announced it yet

1.3k waiting for Gura 3D

>>33339514
Indosisters literally told me implying they only watch clips of Kobo Altare. They weren't much of them, but they're loud in Twitter. Male Kobokerz prefer THE BOYS collab with Fleshtubers (Manca and His friends). Male fans are more likely to rewatch the VODs, female fans only watch clips

>>33342891
Unless Gura had a POV, not by much

>>33342980
60k is optimistic anon.

>Niji is playing the goose game out of nowhere on Rosemi's stream
Extremely sus

>>33342838
Psh, like hell would it only be the usual suspects then (Bae, Mori, Ollie). It's more like
>Ame @Hololive Kaigaiki and only Reine so far joined, maybe even Bae or Ollie joined in
>Then with few members, she goes to @Holopro and got 100% Tempus and then Mori jumps in

>>33342993
She's closing on the homoworm waiting room.

>>33342705
>No one's that autistic
Anon...

>>33342940
I doubt that. Moona is basically honorary first army now. Okayu and Shion are really the only JPs that will ever mention Gura.

>>33342596
I'm still surprised that Moona got higher numbers than Mori considering Mori's was right after the Holofest hype. She also had Suisei in the show, which seems like a bigger buff than Towa. Maybe it did really come down to having more JPs in Moona's corner pushing it.

>Gura's waiting room, 24 hours to go
>1.3k
>Worms waiting room, 2 hours to go
>1.4k
This is just sad

>>33342841
As a deadbeat I’m expecting Gura to beat her and I’m okay with that. 20 minutes of charades isn’t great for numbers.

>>33342573
Her own branchmates can't even be bothered to shill it. There's no way JP members is going to care except for a few unityfags.

>>33342980
If Gura's budget 3D could get 60k, this will too. I doompost but only within reason.

>>33343060
b-but the UMISEA BOND...

>>33342845
having to ask permission for everything is actually part of why asacoco ended and a lot of people are discouraged from doing that sort of content after a while, i'm surprised her show's still going after like 90 episodes

>>33342980
100k is far, far, far out of the reach of current HoloEN.

>>33342845
Retard.
That's exactly how you end up butting heads with management over every little thing. That was the MO of Coco, and it ended up fucking things up in the long run.

>>33342596
Moona only got that number thanks to Pekora. If Pekora hadnt said a word about it then she would be in the 30-40k range.

>>33342634
It also happened at 7AM JST, I fucking missed it because of that.

>>33343069
Was Suisei announced beforehand? Because surprise guests can help sure, but not that much.

>>33342353
From Nodoka's chedule tweet last night, it's seems the worm collab is some kind of mandatory collab pushing from management. Hence the frame was up very early just like some kind of events. They basically using the girls to shill their males.

>>33342977
Yeah chumkek here, if anyone said on stream "Gura will have a live on saturday" i'd literally fly to japan and disembowl her. Ok with permissions tho

>>33342731
>reine got in since she is the only one who responded to the open invite
>ame extend invite to tempus, they all agree
>announce this new update
>mori and bae jump in because of the boys
>reine invite the rest of ID because she doesn't want to be alone

>>33343127
yeah Coco simply did not have Koyo passion for their own project

>>33342627
Does the offcollab karaoke just not count?

>>33342845
It's a company, anon.

>>33343127
You can blame asacoco for that. The hanging Kanata episode was the cause of this retarded rule.

>>33343089
EN idol btw

"You live and die by your solo content" sounds really hypocritical.

>>33343127
Koyo is a grinder.

>>33343069
I think the fact that it happened so soon after HoloFes AND Suityan 3D played a big factor.
3 3D appearance in a month is a bit much, especially when we saw how janky her model looks on HoloFes.

>>33342980
60k sounds about right desu.

>>33342977
yea imagine if those 3people were still around, bet they'd be pissed

>>33342126
IKZ!!!!!
it's been so long since their last collab

>>33343089
Who's pov is that? Ame and Magni has their frames up

>>33342582
It also had a 20 minute charades segment right at the start and fucking Rikka as the first guest. Dude is great but if you tell me he’s a buff I will piss myself laughing

>>33343238
It's still true even if a hypocrite said it.

>>33343191
Yes.

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1570940602694377472
>same time as Gura 3D
oof

>>33343273
to be fair, that live version of spiral tones was amazing.

>>33343264
Ame. Magni's POV has lower numbers

>>33343283
broken clock yadda yadda

>>33343192
>making the girls accessories to the boys
Welp they want to turn holoEN into nijiEN.

>>33343040
doesn't really matter the entire order- if 17 talents (not including Reine and Ame) weren't interested enough to fill out 8 slots and do commentary for a 10 person tourney then it was never gonna get off the ground without the 4 tempus.

>>33343238
Think of it as his final moments of clarity before he was seduced by quick fame and became intoxicated with hubris.

>>33342509
is there any other chuuba where our over/under range is nearly 50k

error bars on this gura live are gigantic

>>33343191
Don't remember, but she also had one of the homos in a duet, which could have potentially hurt numbers.

>>33343192
How can you tell its a mandatory collab?

>>33343306
lmao. get fucked shark.

>>33343323
Except the boys are boring, so it's the other way around

>>33343351
The voices in his head told him, of course.

>>33343238
It's an incomplete thought that can't fully summarize the complex dynamics of streaming in a company of fellow streamers, the box supporting you even if you aren't collabing a lot, etc. But it's mostly true. If you just turn into a collab whore your solo content tanks and then your career is in the shitter where you're on a treadmill of constant collabs to keep audience attention.

>>33343127
Coco is la creatividad but edgy. She can't not have edgy shit that she always gets pushback from management and thus eating away at her mental. Koyo is a grinding machine under Peko's tutelage

>>33343192
What? It looks like a regular stream promotion tweet to me.

>>33343069
At that point she had shown up in HoloFes a month ago and Suiseis birthday literally the week before. Also fucking Rikka of all people.

>>33343238
They've done 6 collabs with HoloPro in 2 months, that's in line with every other HoloPro gen except Uproar

>>33343238
>he believed this when it came from the guy who was supposedly a bro tuber but then turned to gaybaiting.

>>33343202
"Non-fullmyth" all of Myth were there, it was a Gen collab, not something that she organized as a personal project

>>33342859
I've never watched Moona in my life, but even Axel ended his Apex stream early to encourage people to go watch her stream. That's the only reason I heard about.

>>33343311
It was a good ass song, can't lie

>>33343382
JUST LIKE REN

>>33343351
>Imadeitup.jpg

>>33343069
Imo the biggest reason was Pekora turning her stream into a Moona waiting room

>>33342993
You know in EN you can get a 20k waiting room and end up only having a peak of 30k

>>33343306
Oh my god. Riku has fired the counter-programming missile. It's OVER

>>33343403
>HoloPro
Homos were a mistake.

>>33343192
They should make this clear in the auditions form for all future applicants looking to get into holoEN. It's a huge change.

>>33343311
I don’t know what the fuck that mixer was doing with the auto tune on the studio version.