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/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit?usp=sharing

>>33228884
If you want a more accurate date go for archive.alice
Warosu started archiving a few months after /vt/ formed. Some earlier 4 digit posts cant be found

First civilian contact
Actual creation of /vt/: 29 January 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/3/

First contact of the ryona/guro civilisation post-split.
>29 Jan 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/13939/#13939

First reappearance of Akira
>1 Feb 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/150941/#154623

First appearance of the holo abuse civilisation that will become /wg/ and the other half of /sbg/
>7 Feb 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/320645/#320645

First reappearance of the ryona/guro civilisation, /sbg/
>17 Mar 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/1621567/

The event that possibly triggered the Holo Meat expedition
>15 Dec 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/14640023/

First appearance of the Holo Meat expedition
>17 Dec 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/14807358/

Establishment of the /meat/ colony
>20 Dec 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/14961505/

Beginning of cultural exchange with Holo Abuse
>24 Dec 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/15171024/

/meat/ and /sbg/ realised they already share the same faith
>28 Dec 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/15394921/#q15395363

/meat/, /sbg/, and abuse merge into modern /meat/
>29 Dec 2021
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/15400762/
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/15453787/

>>33230948
>>33228884
Forgot to anchor

hello!!! Im back from work!

>>33230948
>>33228726
A tag should be added together with a filter for all the major events. i.e. First Threads(founding of a new nation), Major graduations, and big yabs. Or there could be separate sheets for minor events. Though a single big sheet with filters would be easier to maintain. The priority between having debut/announcements or thread creation as the major dates are also debatable.
For cases like /meat/ here the timeline sheet would be a little hard to navigate if everyone starts having a very detailed timeline.

people seem to frequently forget that this is about thread culture, not chuubas. disappointing.

>>33232461
What are you talking about? The time period is based of /vt/'s reaction not official dates

>>33232335
HELLO YOU SEXY FUCK DID YOU SEE LAST THREAD!?

>>33232773
Yaya. sammich friend came back.
but I didnt get all the details

>>33232981
Well basically I told em about re launching our pretty tri fleet back there and setting up shop to hopefully obtain their magics in exchange for our magics. Hoomans weren't too fond of it and saplings themselves basically said "sounds neat but not exactly life changing". But I think they might reconsider once I actually lost off what each gem does especially since emeralds are meant to increase plant growth. If anything I would think they would want emeralds.

>>33232335
I am back from sleep, nanora!

>>33233133
hmmmmm
send a small fleet, and classify it under diplomacy and pilgrimage
that way /who/ wont see it as a threat and the magic exchange could be called religious/cultural. not militaristic
oh and someone said that the Risuners that can sense plant health could be useful to communicate with saplings
>>33233225
yay smol Lunaito!

>>33233438
9 pinisi is kind of small desu. The problem is that the witch is considered such high importance that his safety has to be guaranteed. That's why we gotta pay the deadbeats some serious monies for a large escort. I was planning on investing A LOT into this. Also this isn't militaristic anyway if you think about it. This is just a way to massively boost our national security. Imagine having trees that can fight for us? Or even manipulation of branches and foliage to hide off our villages? Shits badass.

>>33232547
what do you mean by that?

>>33186997
>Keep in mind the Serene Republic is quite a ways from /rushia/, so economical and political consequences would be delayed a bit
We have priests for all the deities of the holopantheon, I think the knowledge of a god's fall would arrive almost immediately.

News about the fate of the land *f fandeads may take a bit longer to reach the Serene Republic though.

The important thing for the story is that the actual death of rushia as in, the moment of termination or channel deletion, not sure which one. The events themselves would have probably been ongoing for a few decades. shouldnt happen much before 1123 VTE ideally. But that is just my preference and Im not the one who ultimately decides how the timelines work. I can adapt my plans, i would just prefer not to.

>>33230948
Very cool!

>>33233438
>>33233673
What year would this happen? Depending on the date, you have /risu/-friendly a /nasfaqg/ company who has an outpost in Sabatangan,and they have been described as having at least three "boats with a lot of guns". Hiring a few ships from a company to protect you may be seen as less aggressive than making a deal with a military force

>>33234824
Just because the timeline says it's the announcement of something doesn't mean we are representing the actual thing in the world. It's more about how the world's inhabitants react to them. Since stuff like this gets posted on /vt/ almost immediately when they are posted I don't see the problem.

>>33232461
>he isnt up to date with how chuubanite works
Superreality and the Heavenly realm affect our magic, and this affects the world

Conlangbro, I have a few ideas for a possible nanolish dialect nanora, outside of the ones listed in our doc for nanora and nora.
I like the idea of a language that is very cute sounding for the lunaitos, with lots of Uu, Oo, Ah, and Ee's. Also I had an idea that rhyming could have meaning in the language, maybe as an emphasis towards certain concepts like, "Nanodozo." Would change the meaning of dozo to a more urgent and exasperated form than if it was "Nanonanodozo"

To the nasfaqg bro the second tri fleet is gonna be in 1130.

gentlemen?

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What's everyone working on. I am currently working on behalf of mepman (on vacation for supporting /meat/) and OGsuner the greatest battle Risu shall ever receive.

Moonafic, if you are here. Please respond to this post.

>>33242335
Also Tako and Peko as well please. Need to clean up house with you guys really fast.

>>33228767
Since we might be voting on the province system tomorrow. It's especially important that new reps read this since some have joined over the week voting on it was put off. I've done my best to make a complications proof system but I'd recomend thoroughly reading over the document any just to make sure.

Here's the rentry, please read it:
https://rentry.org/Provinces

If there are any objections to the map, or to the way the province system is handled, please bring them up and I'll see what amendments I can make. As mentioned previously It's important we discuss this now since voting may start tomorrow.

>>33242775
as per tradition here's a sexually provocative image to make sure people actually look at the post. The province system has been in the works for a month, you have no excuse not to know about it.

>>33241954
Cant fucking wait desu. Also sapling I have some things for you my friend. Ive been focusing on me a lot but I want to focus on you.

What are saplings primary interests? I get they are forest lovers like ourselves but what is their essentially end goal?

Do you lot have money? Would you accept nuts as payment?

Do saplings have metal tools of any kind and if not would you accept them as gifts for stuff?

When the risuners come over would there be any work/services you would like them to provide? (i get that prostitutes is probably out of the question)

Do saplings play games? We could introduce you to soccer if you dont have it already.

I like to design my characters around something that makes sense so was thinking of having the witch be more of a docile character that is sweet and gentle. If that is what the saplings can relate to then thats what ill decide.

>>33228703
Hi, anon from /vsj+/ here. Can you please remove Flaggot's flag from "Flag posts" link and update it with the current one?
Thanks.

i lost my damn account pp. need to make another

>>33243541
How’d you manage that? Write down your account information next time, dummy.

>>33243100
>Proliferating the forest, ensuring the survival of the forest, ascending into Saplinghood and to hopefully be graced by Fauna in their lifetime. SImply put, there is no grand scale endpoint here unless it is to spread out the forest as much as they can. Because saplings by nature are tribal each tribe has its own small goals but at heart, all serve a singular cause.
>We work on a barter system, nuts would be acceptable to people who enjoy nuts especially if they are nuts of species unknown to saplings.
>Metal tools are not looked down upon by saplings as iron is just as a natural material as wood is in the ground, but because there is no organized industry, metal tools are hard to come by for the average saplings and would fetch a high value.
>Hamdani would be a good example of what kind of services to help the sapling. Foraging, hunting, tanning, any other basic necessity would be invaluable to saplings as they would appreciate the help and develop closer ties to even the Shamans (while Shamans are elusive, they are not impossible to find especially with how agile Risuners are compared to the average human sapling).
>We play games that test skill, so there was a game known as "Hunt" where it is an extreme form of Hide and Seek that can span acres and even last whole days. "Callout" is also a game where saplings identify targets they want to shoot with arrows and the first person that fails to hit their marked target loses. We would not have anything like Soccer previously.

>>33238399
Does this mean that the newest ships would be participating in it?

>>33246238
Thank you so much for answering. Your society is strikingly similar to ours where we do kind of the same shit. I think as pretty much the OTHER nation of forest lovers we will get along great.

The ultimate long term goal of this is to permanently have risuners stay there and obtain magical artifacts so we could use sapling magic for our own national security back home. I know that your not just gonna be handing those things out though but thats what we want.

I also remember that you may not be too interested in the gem magic but emeralds in particular do accelerate plant life. So if anything I think you would love those. But its up to you what you want

I hope your ok with the idea of risuners setting up a permanent settlement on the beach using some of the ships as housing. Were not trying to invade or occupy you obviously.

Finally we would come differently the second time now that we know about you. Tome down the prostitutes A LOT for obvious reasons. Of course anyone who tries to forcefully fuck saplings will have their cocks chopped off like the last guy. If we are gonna get magic shit from you guys then it is only fair that we give in return after all.

>>33246279
Yes. Any pinisi thats been upgraded or well maintained. We need only the best. As well as hatever we invest in for escorts which will be sunstantial. I think I decided that this time we will initially use nasfaqg bros primarily for escorting with deadbeats being visited and paid for escort services secondary. Seems like we should give you lot a turn IMO and see what your made of. Consider it a risuner trial of dependability if that makes sense.

>>33246972
What's your budget?

>>33246972
Oh, and what exactly is the planned route?

>>33247065
Well. Nuts of course. But iron tools, low grade coal (lignite) and peat. All the prostitutes you could ask for with a reasonable amount of requests you would want from them for your kink needs. Grape agate gems probably. We usually never use gems for money but since this is top priority we would be offering gemstones for this extremely special occasion. Mainly nuts though if you accept. I dont know of a number wise budget but if anyone wants to do the math then this is a VERY HEAVY all in kind of investment.

>>33247243
A rough one is fine. Low budget, medium, high, no-matter-the-cost, etc

>>33247169
Gimme a second so i can draw it out
>>33247283
Do you know anything about national budget averages around this time period? Or for that matter anything about the size of most escorts? Im doing a lot right now so would be of great help.

>>33246238
>metal tools are hard to come by for the average saplings and would fetch a high value.
I would argue that it depends on the time period. When the Atlantic NorthEast Native Americans encountered European Christian settlers stone axes were rather quickly abandoned in favor of steel axes. /who/ in the south has a robust industrial base so metal tools should be relatively common in /uuu/ by now over centuries of trading. Metal tools are maintained and sometime reforged by druids who learned to smith.

>>33246972
With how in tune Risuners are with the forest, there's certain to be some kind of integration and understanding between us. I wouldn't even be surprised if there was a Risuner shaman in the future (while they may have to forsake their previous faith in devotion to Fauna's Forest)

>>33247545
This is me.
>>33247456
Sorry to have disregarded the trading that we already had with /who/ but I didn't really think that there would be much success between us trading because we do not have any adopted currency. In the future though, I'll keep in mind that saplings of the UUUing Woods already have an established trade and metal tools with /who/. But as for the Darkling Mire saplings, metal tools from their far neighbors are very hard to come by.

pic related for planned route. Start at Sabatangan and stop at /morig/ for refresh of supplies and additional escort boats then continue on the way. Most if not all risuner boats will be filled with food for the journey and there will be stops along the coasts for just scavenging. Fishing also would be a thing to ensure food is always available.
>>33247545
There might be one or two. After all we are sending just over one hundred risuners over there.
>>33247773
Again. Pic related for the two landing zones I was thinking of. I think the one away from the hoomans makes more sense.

>>33247773
There should still be a lot of bartering going on. That's how the native Americans got their tomahawk heads. /uuu/ should still have a lot of stuff /who/ want like rare herbs, mushrooms, timber and fur. Some border communities are probably reliant on said barter economy. And there should be internal trading networks right? Saplings in the Darkling mire could be mostly inheriting the tools instead of trading them because all of them are coming from the South. Some cultural differences could also form around the tools. Where the saplings closer to the border could custom order their tools, with beautiful etchings and engravings on the metal parts, Saplings living deeper would only decorate their shafts as the metal have been reforged many times.

>>33247907
I would personally recommend creating just one large central port at any of these circled locations.

>>33247991
I should adopt this instead, it doesn't really make sense for saplings to be unable to trade with at least one another.

>>33236068
Oh, that's a good point the whole Rushia "happening" wouldn't start with her graduation, it would with the big Yab. It follows that the graduation as such would be a few IRL days/IC years later. Okay, I'll dig up a post for the yab, and have both events on the timeline. 1122 VTE for the termination itself then? Or you meant 1123 VTE?
>>33230948
Great, thank you anon! I'll add those once I'm back to my PC.

>>33248074
I JUST HAD THIS OPEN FOR RESEARCH! Tell me more about the areas. The UUUing woods are of interest but i was thinking the darkling mire would be where we spend the majority of time. The bottom left circle is looking the most promising.

>>33228726
Anchoring
>>33243415

>>33248342
So just from observing the topographical map, it's a large sandy bank that translates directly into the swamp heading north. Hypothetically, the darkling mire is basically Florida. I've highlighted areas in blue where more stable long-term infrastructure could possibly be built because otherwise you'd be building upon mud and a slow-moving river.

>>33246972
>>33247243
oh oh oh give them permission to set up trade posts! i would pick Ceres since it's the more developed city by the coast
>>33247419
Question... who is the one behind this expedition? simce we dont have a unified government telling us what to do
>>33248074
>>33248342
hhhmm. according to the comparison map, /uuu/ is as big as France. maybe a bit more. travelling inland would take days. cant wait!
>>33247907
brother... use the tradewinds map as reference. anyone saved it?

>>33243415
idk which anon is the one who maintains the flag rentry but I think I'll make a new one.

>>33243415
>>33248543
The new flag is in the archive, the list of flags in the OP is just kinda out of date and only includes some of the earliest flags created here.

>>33248604
Keep in mind that risuners are aware of the sapling transformation thing. In your lore docs it says that they could go a month or two before noticing original symptoms. The first tri fleet scouts would retreat as soon as they saw these things to heal it off, essentially dipping their feet in the water. Just keep in mind we need a safe space where we can cure ourselves of this process. If the shores are good then we shall use the shores.

>>33248630
Trade winds map is in the ocean climate rentry. The current ClimateAnon never did a more in-depth wind map I think. So it's only ocean currents and general direction of the wind.

>>33248723
THANKS!
>>33248721
Hmmm. if they dont stay too long, Risu chuubanite in the risuner bodies could counter the transformation. they could adapt to the environment a little bit to uhh... stave off transformation
farm and forest risuners would be best at resisting it since theyre used to being around magic plants and trees

>>33248630
Hi ri2ner. I believe that nasfaq bois already are in sabatangan as it is.
I picked a witch who I will name soon as well as Hamdani being second in command due to her expertise of the area and of sapling behavior.
Being in a swamp will be interesting but we should be able to handle it. Its not like our land is poor in moisture kek.

I dont have the tradewinds map. Feelsbad. Hell I never looked at a trade wind map ever I just put arrows and say BOATS GO FROM HERE TO HERE EZ and it just happens. I know that people from niji side talked about this.

Anyway ill be posting more about stuff in about an hour so pls be patient. Ill also be here all fucking day. I love you ri2ner

This Saturday: come watch as we face off against /vsj+/ in the first game of the knockouts! But before that, we need to get HYP! If any anons want to help out with our hyp video, we need someone to record themselves reading the narrator's lines in the first paragraph of https://rentry.org/PierreVonFlaggot.. Send in your submission and become a part of team history!

>>33248723
Because the prevailing wind doesn't really change, as it's basically dependent on how fast the planet spins and little else. The only notable exception would be monsoonal effect, but that doesn't really apply to /uuu/'s case due to its location.
tl;dr sailing from /risu/ to /uuu/ doesn't require a lot of sailing against wind, although I would say it might be easier for the Risuners to sail eastward towards /uuu/ (by the westerlies) to minimise the time they might have to spend in the doldrums.

>>33236794
only through chuubanite. there is no magic outside of it’s interactions.

>>33249074
Also agree on that aside from the shorter distance they need to travel if they sail east. Though that part in the northern Indie continent might be painful due to the horse latitude being there

>>33249312
If you want to be pedantic, the horse latitudes describe only the subtropical high-pressure area, which the Risuners would go through if they sail west. The one they'll meet towards the east would be the polar front, which would still suck somewhat but probably still better than having to brave both the doldrums *and* the horse latitudes.

>>33249074
>>33249312
fair point, especially that they will get re supply areas from both vrt and inf. But they also know the way better from experience the first time going west and thats where most of their boats are. And I doubt the area east of vrt and surrounding areas is mapped well. Actually vrt does have an onobot in uuu i think so maybe it could work?

>>33249778
Would they really know the way better from experience when it comes to sailing further west beyond /morig/?
/inf/ would probably be your main help in the eastward route since /vrt/ isn't really on the way in that regard (unless they sail in the westerlies region more often than I assume, which sounds likely given the mention of onobot in /uuu/).

>>33249930
Well both ways have advantages. Its a reasonable choice to go with either one. By the way how much shorter is the distance?

>>33250014
Based on the map viewer's tool, going westward will take ~20,000km assuming a mostly straight route around the landmass, while going eastward will take ~12,000km. The main cause of the longer distance in the westward route would be the need to circumvent the /ggg/ peninsula.

>>33247907
For low budget, I would use Edelweiss Co.
For medium or high, I think the best would be to go for Chronobanks (deals with Infinitum) or Tripoint (deals with Moriji). I can only write for the former so I recommend that.

For the former, I sort of would have liked to establish relations with /who/ anyways so this is a bit of an opportunity for a bit of cooperation. Could send some company representative with an escort fleet, and /risu/ could hire the escort fleet to help them as well (at a discount).

>>33250212
fucking shit....almost half the distance eastward. I might have to reconsider stuff after my lunch

Do we need to host a vote this week? I will do it if that is ok?

>>33250212
The shorter distance seems to be due to sailing near the poles, which brings its own difficulties. If you go eastward travelling between the indie landmasses, then the distance is similar to travelling west.

>>33250514
>>33250519
I don't know how bad the east route will be with ice and such, but just something to consider.

Alright, for this weeks vote we are discussing the province system. Anything other proposals?

>>33250678
Shouldn't be too bad since it's relatively low in latitude and not afflicted by a cold current from the pole (like in eastern Canada). They would still want to pack some clothes but it should be relatively fine in terms of weather.

ATTENTION: WE ARE VOTING TOMORROW AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS THESE TWO THINGS AT LEAST.
1. Province System: Read more about it here. https://rentry.org/Provinces
2. By-Laws: When should the voting discussion ideally begin and when should it finish? When should be the deadline for new proposals?
Suggest more and proper wording!

>>33242335
Hey.

>>33251119
can we please wait another week, we really haven't discussed these that much and such a big change needs more time

>>33251294
Agreed, many anons haven't really said anything and we lack the time to discuss it.

>>33251233
Have you chosen your spot on the map?

MOUNTAIN AND KINDRED REVEALING HOW THEY REALLY FEEL ABOUT Z. I'M FUCKING KNEELING!

>>33251447
no. I was thinking after the province system was passed actually would be the best time to try it out, right?

>>33251500
Sort of what I was thinking but you can still be the test this week.

>>33251640
Nah, I can wait. Not enough time to discuss me and all right? Besides I still have not chosen!

>>33251726
Very well. Thank you for your patience. It's refreshing actually.

I can vote whenever just tell me when.

>>33251484
Fucking based!

>>33228726
https://rentry.org/the-owl#vii
I wrote another chapter since it’s getting close to the end. I didn’t expect what I learned in English classes ended up being used here

>>33228703
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-flags
New flag post. Next baker please replace the on in the OP. If any of your flags are missing please reply to this post. Preferably national flags only. All the /inf/flags are leftovers from the old one.

>>33251484
Its great. They hate PP and Alice too because they are both chads. Love it. Mountain made alice cry like a wittle baby too

>>33254701
>>33253730
>>33251484
they can try to take back what they said but we know now their true beliefs. think mountain alone has bullied 4 of them off the thread

Kindred has such a great solution to problems, take a prozac. She is a psychology major so she knows what
She is talking about

>>33254899
its amazing to see how based some anons are. they are walking deities. Not that she ever does any worldbuilding but i can respect the sass and the condescending attitude a lot

Reminder we pay people in nuts. Our money grows on trees. Come at us richbros

>>33251119
>>33251294
>>33251393
Speaking of the province system, I think I've realized more glaring flaws in it, nanora.
It inherently gives way too much power to any new reps as well as giving an incentive to falseflag as a new rep. Think about it, nora, I'm a nation that would reasonably have some sort of relationship with a different nation and we don't share a thread, Luna + Matsuri, Gura + Ame or Gura + Shion, any of the fetish threads with + horni, what's stopping me outside of good faith, self control, and writing ability from subtly slipping into the thread under a new IP and claiming to be another rep? It would probably be accepted as well because as I said, it would make sense for those nations to congregate with one another and make deals, it would probably go by with the rest of the thread without issue and it makes absolute sense for a rep who knows a decent amount about both chuubas to just decide, "Why shouldn't I write both of these? It would probably be like what I'm writing even if another guy was writing it." Even if the check was something like a basic lore doc, that doesn't help much considering lots of people have different writing paces, nora.
There are problems with the current rep system and we should be dealing with those before we actually decide on something like this nanora.

>>33255015
Love her. Just like us, no worldbuilding and all drama.

Do not bite bait.

>>33255562
least obvious falseflagger itt

>>33254619
It looks like you're missing /pcg/'s flag, https://files.catbox.moe/47pu18.png.. /cig/ should probably be listed as luna since that's the name used on the map nowadays. Everything else looks good to me.

>>33255390
What do you believe should be done personally?

>>33255672
Well, you can't help but make the discussion about how others are wrong and need to take meds. Pretty based, ngl.

Anyone that has mental health issues shouldn't be a menhera, just take your meds and worldbuild.

>>33256227
t. Z still seething

>>33256227
Words from a wise Psych Major.

>>33248979
I missed the "narrator's lines" part and just read the whole thing, I hope that is alright.
https://voca.ro/14Tva7aHgRTD

>>33256272
Probably crying from his feelings being hurt hahahaha

>>33256315
Kek nice

Mountain and Kindred are avenging our fallen comrades. Praise them.

>>33251119
Can we vote to ban people from the project?

>>33255390
>>33251500
>>33251393
So... anyone else have an opinion on this? I would appreciate it?

>>33256733
>>33255390
Lunaito brings a good opinion here that has sort of made me on the fence about this honestly. I would like more to speak about this because, frankly, this is important. One of the most important votes in a while in terms of sheer changes

>>33256315
That should be fine. Thanks for your contribution!

>>33256733
not involved but i agree, not enough discussion has been had. Mountain honestly should be directing the discussion over this since he is the one behind it.

>>33251119
I like this idea in principle, but I have one issue and one remark.

First, the remark: maybe try to involve the threads themselves rather than individual reps when it comes to map placement, or rather try to have the reps consult it with their home threads. Otherwise, some nations might be permanently located at a place only one person has chosen - yes, I know that right now countries don't really choose where they are placed, but it's much easier to be dissatisfied with "wrong" placement when a decision could have been made. This also plays into what the Lunaito said - by placing the burden on the thread in question rather than a single person, you could avoid that incentive. Plus, people who'd swing by their own thread wouldn't say "hey does anyone want to write for our project from your thread" but rather "hey, I'm writing for our thread in /vtwbg/, any preferences to the location"? Additionally, I'd want to encourage nations to write a short overview of their thread and culture before choosing their placement to avoid situations where the barely any lore is written, yet space is claimed. If they go inactive afterwards, c'est la vie, but at least the nation will be "alive" in this world.

The issue: wouldn't that make some areas of the world completely barren? I feel like people will pick places closer to other nations, which will lead into very "blobbed" developed areas. How would the provincial system address that, if it is the case?

clearly the panon generation does not like this so this wont pass. you can bet every single one of them that can vote will vote against this to spite mountain kek.

>>33257603
Yeah... we need to iron some kinks of this out and I fully agree. Because I will also say this much about asking a thread, most of the time they do not give on shit at all. That's just not how it works. I really do not know solutions to some of the issues raised at all. In principle, its nice but there are still issues and Lunaito in particular made great points.

>>33257780
Well, /nasfaqg/ cared plenty. Either way, my primary issue with it is the blobbing of development and activity, but I can see it being wrangled somehow, it's not a flaw inherent to the method, and we desperately /need/ some system for getting new threads on the map.

To be honest, i need to inform myself more on both sides on the province issue. I do agree about the ByLaws proposal but cannot offer any real suggestions. Must we do this vote this week since clearly there are things that need to be refined? If my opinion matters, if we want this change we need to make it as good as we possibly can and address concerns. No method is perfect, but if nothing else we can have a truly better method in the end.

>>33257883
Yeah, it depends on the thread. All of our systems will have some sort of flaw but what is needed is a system that as you and sol just said, is more refined. I cannot offer any suggestions myself.

>samefagging on cooldown
the absolute state of this thread

>>33255390
I'm unsure how this is unique to the Province system.
I hate to revive a drama but I'm frankly worried we already have this issue. It doesn't even have to be from different IP's, we allegedly have multiple people writing from the same IP. Frustratingly we don't realistically have a satisfying solution to this because of the nature of 4chan: we can never realistically prove beyond a doubt that they're not separate people and they aren't likely to own up to it either.

We kind of just have to continue as we are now and pray everyone here is operating in good faith.

>>33258428
Well, frankly, anyone having multiple people from the same IP is sockpuppeting no matter how you look at it. Anyone doing this deserves to get banned immediately because it compromises the integrity of the project. I don't know who is, but if you do, tell us please.

>>33255390
I have one idea.
When a new rep wants his nation place we give them some options.
1. The old border
2. Easy Mode: Rep pick a region on the map with geography, climate, and location that fits their oshi's theme, their thread's status, or their thread's relation with friendly threads.
3. Hard Mode: Similar to above but the opposite. A water themed chuuba gets a desert (/ehe/) while a plant themed chuuba gets the cold (/rose/)
4. Let the old reps pick for them.
Someone who is serious about worldbuilding will consider these options and think. Balancing out their responsibilities.
An impersonator will not.

>>33258609
These are reasonable for me personally.

>>33258609
option 4 is clearly an awful idea considering we have voting blocs that you can already see based on who supports in the province proposal. not going to name any names.

>>33258428
I think the issue isn't that the province proposal gives rise to an impersonation problem that can't exist otherwise, it's that it gives more incentive for someone to impersonate other nations since they have more deciding power if they strike first.

>>33258428
you mean alice and her 20 sockpuppets? kek should have just said it my man. I know you hate her and Z a lot so just tell us. Stop hiding in your safespace and be a man.

>>33258840
You do know this is not a videogame

>>33256733
My only opinion is that alice needs banned.

>>33259071
There is a precendent of them doing this last voting session. It's rather simple man. Open your fucking eyes.

>>33258609
These work for me

>>33258840
voting blocs already exist. morig and nasfaq usually vote the same already and most of the nijis do too. that's just how this works man.

>>33259312
More than just the Nijis but let's not go there. OGsuner might be the only one not part of a voting bloc. We need to break up voting blocs somehow.

can we PLEASE wait on this vote.

>>33259569
This. I don't think anyone is ready for this vote and we will have another /mans/ timeloop.

So I went back to look through the previous vote, and it turns out that Warkop's placement did not pass. Option 2 only received 9/18 votes when it was decided that a proposal needs strictly greater than 50% approval to pass. With that in mind, the bylaws state that Warkop's placement should be revoted on with no abstaining option, so I am requesting that >>33251119 add that to the list of issues to vote on for next time.

>>33259312
>morig and nasfaq usually vote the same already
Except they don't?

>>33259503
i just write about horny squirrels.

ATTENTION: WE ARE VOTING TOMORROW AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS THESE TWO THINGS AT LEAST.
1. Province System: Read more about it here. https://rentry.org/Provinces
2. By-Laws: When should the voting discussion ideally begin and when should it finish? When should be the deadline for new proposals?
3. DECIDE WHERE WARKOP IS PLACED. YOU CANNOT ABSTAIN.
Suggest more and proper wording!
https://rentry.org/or3ub
I fixed it thanks for correcting me.

>>33260243
I just write about horny mindbroken pregnant chicks

>>33260135
>refutes this but not the other one
Nice move at revealing your opinion to me, nasfaq. Glad you agree about the nijibloc

>>33258609
I think realistically this is the best solution we can get. It's not perfect, but its really elegant and its about as good as we can get it with the limitations we have.

I'll work it into the rentry.

>>33257603
I agree with most of what was said in paragraph one, the main issue is that threads usually don't give a shit. I'm not sure if attitudes have changed but when I originally went to KFP to ask about they seemed pretty indifferent.
I agree with the idea of forcing a thread to write some basic lore up first before making their placement concrete, or making some sort of clause that would allow us to uproot and move threads that have very little lore.

As for the second part I'd argue that's actually an improvement from the current system where threads can end up entirely stranded without anyone to write with. the reason why naval writing is so popular, I think, is because it's the only way of getting around the fact that if you don't have any land borders you're kind of fucked. I'm going need more convincing as to why blobbing is a bad thing.

>>33259569
>>33259625
Fine. We can put it off for another week....

still annoying that I bother the thread none stop, posting my rentry every chance I get asking people to give me feedback and bring up their issues and not hear a peep, then after being in the works for a month and already being put off for a week, people pipe up again and ask for it to be put off for another week the day before it's supposed to be put through.

>>33257506
I tried to direct a discussion up here >>33242775 and got nothing. apparently people don't care until its imminently being voted on.

>>33260357
>I tried to direct a discussion up here >>33242775 and got nothing. apparently people don't care until its imminently being voted on.
That is always the case. If we delay a week, there will be no discussion again until the vote is announced, once more. I wouldn't delay the vote for another week.

>>33258428
Inherently, the best way to solve this problem is to make lore a universal collaboration in terms of contributions and just argue against lore that we find to be an issue in some way, we essentially already have that system in place nanora. I mentioned that Lunaitos could use Takolaunchers to invent long ranged artillery and that it would make alot of sense technologically, it didn't become official lore though because anons pointed out that it didn't make sense culturally since we're oriented around traditional warfare and an honorable knightly code, both through our own lore and Luna's own lore. This was also the general consensus with /nasa/ when bread dog (love you nanora) made a whole buncha odd decisions, most odd example being the proposal to make sanalites space dog people, nora. We already do a good enough job at making sure the lore that gets in isn't game breaky, I don't see why we can't just apply that same critical eye to lore that we make for a different nation, especially since the majority of people don't exclusively watch only one chuuba. If we make lore more collaborative, we increase the overall content being put into the thread and also increase the amount of review on each other's lore, this worked great for most of the thread's conception and most people haven't been able to tell me (lunaito writing this) from literally any other lunaito that had posted before, nanora. I don't see how this could even be an issue regarding schizos since they don't make lore.
The only real issue is how voting would occur without reps, but even then I feel like that's less of an issue than the current one nanora.
>>33258571
This is also retarded nanora, shut up baitchama.

Can we get some kind of by-law against voting blocs? I don't know how to fix it but its a clear problem.

>>33260470
thanks for saying it for me anon. If we put it off again I'm genuinely worried we'll just get a repeat of this where no one will talk about the Province System until the day of the vote, at which point people will say that we didn't talk about it enough.

>>33260819
I am trying to get this discussed!!

>>33260777
so fix people who think alike? good luck with that.

>>33260983
they are the same person anyways.

>grrr why are people in a democracy voting for the same thing!!! this is a voting bloc!!
Do you have any idea how rabid you sound like?

>>33261122
When it's the same people every time voting exactly the same, my eyebrows are raised. It's like having political parties. When was the last time Alice and PP voted differently or Morig or Nasfaq

>>33260345
Man, this is the lamest gotcha I've seen in months. Work better on your material, of course I'll be more inclined to respond if my thread is mentioned.
There are general similarities in everyone's votes, and I don't think there are "blocs" in the way that there's a whip who sets a "group's" vote. That being said, countries in similar situations tend to vote similarly, which is another not-at-all surprising discovery.
>>33260357
You delayed the vote too early, the current situation generated discussion. Well, I was only basing the point about going to the threads based off my own experiences - I was essentially approved by the thread to represent it. Then again, /nasfaqg/ isn't a regular split.

Regarding blobbing, I believe it's not bad short-term, but can generate a lot of awkward placements over the long term. Consider, for example, /nasfaqg/. I think placing it next to /#/ would make sense in-lore, and let's assume that a potential /#/ rep will think so too, for the sake of the example. However, before they appear, EN3 debuts, and seeking the hot-spot of activity that is the Holosea/Niji area, some settle for the ex-Neutralcontinent. Now, if /#/ rep comes in, they are left in an awkward situation if they'd want to border /nasfaqg/ or maybe /hfz/, or other neutral threads.

It'll generate a non-zoned world, which was the right idea from the start, I fucking hate zoning bros but the dispersion of threads will be more or less random as they gravitate towards centers of activity. Yes, blobbing won't be a problem when 1, 2, or 3 new threads join in, but 6 months down the line we might find ourselves silently cursing not thinking about it sooner.
>>33260773
Isn't lore already collaborative? Aren't Reps solely just designated voters so we get the good ol' one thread = one vote?
>33261197
Hi. Last time I voted differently from /morig/ was on the 2nd of September, 2022, aka. last time a vote was held. Thank you for coming to my talk.

>>33260773
I agree with the idea of loosening up how lore is written, and allow people to write for threads they aren't the rep of, and make all rep a little more collaborative, I still think we should keep reps around as a central authority on the lore of a country, and we should avoid writing lore for threads that don't have reps.

>>33261325
you know what you're right. Fuck all of you the votes happening anyway, you should have brought up your issues on Saturday/Sunday/Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday instead of complaining last minute that it wasn't talked about enough. I refuse to put the vote off, you retards brought this on yourselves.

I get what you mean though. I'm honestly not sure if we have a good solution for it right now. I'll get back to you on it in a bit.

>>33261325
>>33261341
I kind of mean more like, we should collaboratively decide some of the lore for repless nations and where they would end up on the map, maybe not both for every nation, but we could at least do some for nations directly related to nations already repped.

>>33261993
That has an issue of setting a double standard. Why would some newcomer threads be shackled, while others let to pick from the provinces? Deciding on a lore for repless nations is also pretty yabai, unless it's some general lore AND it's written in a way in which it can easily be removed/changed.

>>33258609
I have some opinions.
1) This is doable with enough creativity. I got lucky with /nasa/ tech in the tundra. However other countries might not be lucky enough to have culture that.
2) This is fine for now. However this is first come first serve. The more territory that's claimed the less likely you'll get territory you want the further along the project goes. It benefits early adopters the most.
3) I don't see the difference between this and 2. Even if you pick the opposite of your thread theme now you might not be able to pick what you want later on.
4) This option is at risk for timeloops and corruption. Naturally you will want to vote for your own interest. Its the same with old reps deciding land for new reps. If you're on the reps' good side then you'll get land you want. If not then then tough shit you get the frozen desert. This is my least favorite option so far.

I think 2 and 3 can be reasonable. Its first come first serve with territory. We can still use the old borders but Nuefag just put territory arbitrary. With the province system is a risk good territory being taken first and late adopters having crap land to choose. But that's life in general. I don't know if I have a solution for late adopters other than get creative with what you have.

>>33261993
I'd ask you to define how much lore we'd decide, how much the new rep has the power to retcon that lore, and how we decide whose related.

I can already see a lot of ways what you're suggesting could go wrong.

>>33262325
>>33262382
Ideally, any entry would be entirely collaborative and the rep could either provide their own entry or tell what he agrees and disagrees with and we'd all have a say in what we think, nora. Pretty much any lore that a writer is motivated to write would be put forth and looked at to see if its compatible with the Vitubia lore thus far. I don't particularly see a reason to put a special emphasis on the position of rep outside of voting, nanora.

>>33237846
alright, what i'm hearing:
>long vowels (especially aa), possibly simple-structured yet numerous diphthongs
>vowel harmony(?)
>lunaitos have to be spittin' bars to speak grammatically
can you explain that last part to me about emphasis? i don't get that. and do you also want a pitch accent? it wouldn't be full-blown tones but i can make it lexically significant to heighten the pitch of the word "love" (or final vowels in general), relative to previous syllables. this would probably be using a binary pitch system like i did with moriji, but it would be more of a euphony thing than utility, like latin and its ass declension system. this would also not replace stress accent, which base holodhennet has

>>33263435
The point of a rep is also, in my opinion, that they know more about their oshi, their thread, and the lore of their country, than anyone else, which gives them the authority to approve something for their countries lore.

For example if I were to write "/Nene/'s closest ally is /KFP/" you'd expect that to be passed by an actual nekko before its made cannon, right?

bump

>>33262362
As much as it is flawed, Nuefag's borders can be a neutral option. Plus, with the new provinces they can request a different border in the same spot now ie Nuefag borders being too huge for their taste

>>33263745
You think it should be the same language family as Holodhennet?

I'm not trying to dump on Mountain's provinces. I just think each system has its own advantages and disadvantages. Well I don't have a vote anymore. I just hope my opinions have some insight on that.

>>33267305
Well the province system is almost done. The borders should be re-adjusted to that at least.

>>33267365
ah wait no, i just misread that. i meant everything else though

>they know more about their oshi, their thread, and the lore of their country, than anyone else, which gives them the authority to approve something for their countries lore.
Really, nobody can prove that when someone comes into the thread though, nanora. Even if they did know all about their oshi and was an active fan, if they're not good at making that into lore as a nation, they're also not too qualified. I don't watch Nene too often but I've seen lots of Nene posters and I see the occasional Nene clip, I gather that she's extremely hyperactive and she has the nickname CEO. I do know she and Ina have a thing and could be allies. With a little research, a base concept could definitely be made that represents Nene well enough.
>>33263745
Imma be honest nanora, i don't know alot of those terms. I kind of want something that sounds both cute and simplistic like that of a small child which is where those sounds and the rhyming idea came from, the rhyming could be restricted to more specific linguistic scenarios more to make the language more flexible if it'd be needed. Pitch accent would be good (I think i know what that means). The emphasis idea is just a toy idea really but I was thinking that the less usage of nano or nora would equal the more serious the situation or would modify the total meaning of a sentence.

>>33268613
Shit, mate, if a non-hooman had come in to make up lore for /who/, it'd probably be the most basic clip-watcher knowledge of "I forgor" that I despise so much, ideally, the one that builds lore should actually be inmersed in what is being talked about. Not just do something that seems "good enough"

I only watch risu and Kaela from the holos. Repping another nation would seem weird desu.

>>33268613
I'm going to have to agree with what the hooman said. While it varies I think as a general rule most fanbases aren't going to trust someone who doesn't frequently watch the vtuber to write lore about them without having someone who does look over and vet that lore first.

Nene also has a thing with Kiara, they're even in an unofficial unit together called "O'riends", who decides if Nene's thing with Ina or Nene's thing with Kiara are more important?

Z, take your meds. Our opinion of you is rather low because we see what kindred and mountain think of you. And they are the wisest ones in the thread. So as Kindred say, take Prozac.

>>33269886
His wittle feewings got hort like alice, who is dying from mountain hahahahA

Ban voting blocs. Well just ban panon generation from votiny. Oldfags know best and those who are based enough to be an oldfag, like Kindred do as well.

>>33269584
Tell us all why you hate Z. So we can hate him too. I missed you!

>>33269886
>>33269987
Hey if you guys are going to make me your messiah or whatever can I give you a commandment?

"Thou shalt write, for he who does not write has opinions are worth only bupkes, amen."

>>33270338
>Mountainism is just a ripoff of JustWrite,Niggerism
I don't know what I expected...

>>33270410
Its true though. 8 years ago I was blessed with great wisdom from an unexpected place: the trailer for battleblock theatre in which the narrator proclaims (in reference to their addition of a level editor) "so hey! if you don't like our stuff you can shut up and do better!"

I've been living by that mantra ever since.

>>33268613
i see, that's what confused me, i'm used to emphasis adding letters and i didn't know what "nano" actually did. pitch accent in this sense means there are two definitive pitches: high and low, usually relative to the previous syllable, which can be used to essentially make sounding cute an obligation for correct pronunciation (what i meant by lexically significant). and euphony just means it sounds good, so i'd be adding pitch accent because it sounds good, that's it

>>33270338
You are the messiah but your words are ours. You said you were leaving and then came back to smite the heathens. There isnt an opportunity you will not take to shit on the great satan, Z. Its why you broke your own rules and ganged up on him. So based are you that you never gave him a chance to speak. Like kindredsama said, he needs to take his meds. O master, and Lord, expell them from our midst.

>>33270338
No but we have a commandment for you. Be our sword of destruction. Divide them all as you are doing. Sow the seeds of their destruction and yours as well. You have done for us antis so much in a short time that you are our honorary leader. Go and accuse in private about who the rat is. You know its actually you.

>>33270338
>making the jew a messiah
You know what happens to them every time?

>>33271000
Mountain Python's Life of Brian?

>>33270338
The rat is Z. Ban him

>>33271124
Agreed. Not only does he hate himself but notice how is targeting his enemies. Also he is an iphone poster and the screenshot came from Iphone. Sus

>>33270646
>>33270763
alright I know who you guys are now for certain now and the only reason I'm not saying anything is because if I do I'll get in trouble, and you'll hide behind a wall of tears and try to paint me as the bad guy for pointing out something obvious. pretty hypocritical and shitty of you but its about what I'd expect.

I'll acknowledge that what I did to Z was kind of hypocritical though, I'll try to do better going forward.

The troll is very young and immature since he unironically use words like 'Thanos snap', 'mald', and 'sus'

>>33269584
>>33268613
My counterpoint is that nations are based on generals rather than oshis. While threads are made for oshis its the posters that make the threads. Also there are generals without general oshis like /nasfaqg/ and /horni/. While they are based on vTubers they don't have a specific vTuber.

>>33271407
point it out lmao. tell us all.

>>33271479
sure but you'd still acknowledge that most threads would rather have some one who actually watches the threads vtuber, or engages in the thread activity, than some one who doesn't, right?

>>33271576
>>33271479
Hah! faggot forgot to remove his trip and caught redhanded repliying to his own post!

>>33271407
>revealing who it was by his own words.
nice work! We all know it's alice now.

>>33271576
True. I may have been a shit worldbuilder but I watch Sana and the threads. I tried to make sure at least /nasa/ was with thread culture. They liked the crash scenario at least.

>>33271407
must be panon or alice by the way he words this. KEK. Knew it and I always believed it. They do this shit to make their enemies look bad.

>>33232336
>>33230948
Added everything. Something I've been doing is not including two nations simply coming into contact with one another, I'm only adding significant deals with some geopolitical implications to reduce filler a little bit. Is that fine? Otherwise, ~20^2, that's potentially 400 events just for everyone meeting kek.
I've added a column for an "Importance" tag, feel free to add comments if you think I did not give the right tag to an event.
Here is what I'm going with:
Local involves one or two threads.
Regional affects three threads or more.
Dimensional affects the whole board.
The others are self-explanatory.
As always, I'm all making it up as I go with little forethought, so let me know if I'm being retarded. I'm gonna add a way for viewers to sort the sheet per specific thread/importance tag as well as date eventually.

>>33272266 (me)

>>33272266
How about making /meat/bro's stuff a separate page?

>>33272399
I expect eventually (hopefully) every thread will have a history as enthusiastic as /meat/bro's, so the extensible solution to this is to allow for filtering out Local and Regional events from the timeline.

>>33272267
very believable... fucking moron kek. I am sure they made themselve sick and its not just him actively caused it himself.

i cant believe it! the troll was Gabe all along!

>>33270628
Yea yea, nanora. Mostly just sounding good is fine, im very tired today due to much running about so I'm not sure how much I could contribute though right now, naaaa.
>>33269013
>>33269584
>>33271479
I agree that the person who writes for a nation would preferably be an active part in both the general and watch streams, I'm saying there's no way to actually prove that for a chuuba that we don't watch, nanora. I think, I'm not sure what I'm saying, I've been very tired lately and I ordered the wrong meal for lunch at an unfamiliar restraunt and it didn't help, nanora. I'm mostly just providing alternate ideas, not to totally replace the current system but to have those ideas collaboratively built upon for something that can replace the current system. I don't really agree with any system that focuses entirely on an individual anonymous poster to be entirety trustworthy because its too open to exploitation, nora.

>>33274575
I think culture is just as important as the systems.

>>33274575
Imo getting lore about your oshi wrong is not a sin. in universe these are myths and religious texts. theyre all up to interpetation. so if a rep has outdated knowledge on their former oshi but is knowledgable on his home thread his myth/religious lore can be considered interpetations to handwave inconsistencies

>>33274764
>>33274844
I am very tired nora.
>I don't even understand
what relation this has to my post, nanora...

>>33275755
Why don't you take a nap.

>>33274575
I appreciate you concern but I am afraid we're going to have to just trust in the anons sometime, at least until we can find a better way of having people to vet out lore that an actual member of the thread/fanbase would see as a misrepresentation.

I can also think of more workable ways of preventing what you worry my system has an issue with than the issues I see your system having. For example if someone shows up whose an actual resident of the thread/actually watched the vtuber shows up and finds the previous reps lore to be wrong/disagreeable then they can alert us and their home thread and get it all retconned or modified. We get a new rep who knows what they're doing and the old rep gets booted out.

Applying the same scrutiny to your system it could produce heaps of dubious lore that would either harm future writing or could lead to masses of destructive retcons that would (since people tend to tie their lore into their lore) effect multiple nations at once, as anons would have no one to make sure what they're writing is accurate beyond surface analysis.

It could also make power playing much easier to get away with since we no longer have authorities on a threads foreign policy: under your system the only thing stopping me from writing both sides of a treaty with /wah/ and making it canon would be the gentlemans agreement that it would be kind of shitty of me to do it, and there'd not technically be any hard way of proving that what I did was wrong.

>>33275995
It's too late to take naps nanora! I'll go to sleep then and if I sleep it'll mean a whole bunch of time I didn't get to use. I'm too tired not to take a nap though, I'd rather just sit around and write lore all day, nora...

>>33276091
I don't have a system nanora, i mean I dont think i do, I think I've only been proposing ideas. I don't want to start building a system off of a flawed premise though.
I'd rather we investigate how to minimize problems with both than to begin making larger projects on the lesser of two.

>>33276091
Alice doesnt watch streams she just anti posts all day right? Feed us.

>>33276739
Fair. my point still stands that reps hold a valuable position as an authority on what does and doesn't fly on a threads specific lore, and that reducing them to "vote only" status would be a poor choice, in my opinion.

>>33276798
Some reps are worth more than others, however imo.

>>33271407
Right here is someone regrets nothing that he says and has proven himself to be an unhinged psychopath. He cares little for the damage he causes to others by his comments, refuses to apologize, and would rather believe that people that contribute to this project regularly are trolling themselves than admit he could be a problem. Shut your fucking mouth for once and stop acting like the loser you have proven to be. I have lost all respect for you when it came to my attention, thats to a schizo no less, that you are this type of person. You play right into their damn hands with comments like this, which are obviously directed at panon or alice. Seriously? Is this you first time on this website because you have done so much damage to this project alone that I no longer have any respect for anything you do. You accomplished in a week of your own retardation what schizos have been trying to do for months. Divide and conquer.

>>33276798
I agree with the spirit of what you say, but I'd like to say there's a subtlety. I think it's possible to have a "loremaster" and a "rep", and they be different people. And this "loremaster" thing is basically just an informal position, that's just the guy who knows the thread, the chuubas and the lore, and you should probably refer to him when doing stuff related to the thread. Now, in many thread's cases the rep and loremaster tend to be one and the same, because the person invested enough in the lore will be the one who can be arsed to put together the votes. But there's nothing really wrong with the two being separate.

>>33277301
>t. Panon bootlicker
Mountain has been around far more and done far more than your idol. Fuck off nigger.

>>33277301
Yeah and look at you, crying and hiding behind your anonymous faggot. Probably Panon or Z. Coward.

>>33277262
>wahh mountain was mean to my buddies

>>33277301
Yeah I can about agree with this.

Its hard for me to take this project seriously or even want to be part of it when we have actual writers accusing other writers of being their own antis. I said before fuck outsider perceptions, still stand by it, but you lost me when i see actual writers blame other writers for what schizos are doing. Sorry but i will not be joining this community after all peko.
:(

>>33278166
D: It's fine if you don't want to care about all the drama. You can still post and contribute and only stay for feedback. The schizo and drama problems only have been a problem in the past 1-2 months. For the vast majority of this project's existence we are pretty productive and conflict free. I'm sorry some of the stuff still leaked here despite efforts to contain it. If you do decide to leave I hope you will check back here after a while and rejoin when the situation improves.

>>33278166
Typical niggersagi behavior, no great loss.

>>33278166
Seconding >>33278504, I'd also argue that for 90 percent of writers here, all this basically goes over their head while they're worldbuilding, especially these days. But if you want to see if it's better later, that's fine too, you'll be welcome any time.

>>33278166
Gonna be real with you, I feel ya there. Seeing some of this unfold and good contributors blamed has sickened me personally. I normally do not feel strongly about things but that kind of breaks the trust we need to have to work as a group. I hope that apologies do occur, as stuff like this is a festering wound at this point. Hope you come back at some point.

>>33278766
I just feel awful for those being targeted at this point. Enough is enough honestly.

>>33278961
Yeah, i am fucking tired of panon/alice blamed for everything wrong in this thread when neither of them do much at all and are good worldbuilders. Mountain doesnt deserve this shit either honestly, but he might be in his own head.

Shill Hour

>>33279207
You must like schizo hour better.

Is there anyone on the discord pretending to be me? I'm not on the discord. Just FYI.

>>33279780
Don't talk about the /dis/ here for no reason, the whole point is that it's containment. Make a burner if you're so curious. also, no.

>>33279874
I just want to confirm. That's all.

>>33280006
Sorry, didn't want to be short with you anon, I like you. It just doesn't work as containment if it's brought up all the time.

>>33280078
I've had falseflaggers impersonate me here. I'm just hoping they're not impersonating me over there.

Anyway I'd like to talk about speculative biology in this area someday. Its also in /nasfaqg/ too.

>>33281404
hi

>>33281495
The pic I just showed is a sea in the middle of /nasfaqg/, /ahoy/, and Lazulight. I'm still trying to understand weather patterns and currents. This sea is unique in that there is no place of this scale like it on planet Earth. So I'm wondering what the marine wildlife will be like for fishing.

There's cold current coming from the south. I think there's a warm north current flowing in from the northern channels? Either way I'm guessing the water flowing in and out of channels would make a unique environment. Maybe the salinity would be unique as well?

>>33282082
oh
I think polar water tends to be less salty so maybe the salinity changes between seasons depending on which inflow current’s stronger?

>>33282082
>>33282349
Salinity map for reference.

>>33282408
So something like this but on a larger scale and seasonal?

>>33282349
>>33282408
>>33282686
Possibly. And maybe the weather also affects the salinity as well. Summers would be more salty due to more evaporated water I think. Though there's only one channel in the south and three channels in the north. Maybe its naturally salty all year round.

>>33283038
But wouldn’t winter wind push more water into the sea since the polar front’s further to the north during winter?

>>33280078
so, how is everyone doing today?

>>33283405
It depends on how strong the winter current is. If its really strong then sure.

>>33283822
What if we say it's really strong because the result sounds more interesting?

>>33284162
I think it depends on what climate anons say. Still what's the result of a strong polar current?

>>33284691
Probably a less salty and colder sea in winter?

>>33284948
So how will the fish behave to the fresher polar water from the south mixing with the warmer saltier water from the north?

>>33287187
They probably will migrate during winter so I assume the adapting ones will mostly be plants or otherwise immobile animals

Noon
Just had lunch

>>33282686
One thing to consider is that the Baltic Sea is a dead end.
The Niji gulf sea has straits for water and wildlife to travel.
So imo the salinity switch would be much spread out.

>>33277301
A loremaster should also be good for cross-thread stories/collaborations.
As advisors and peer reviewers

>>33281404
go on

>>33228884
A correction to the "First Joint Kizuna AI and Siro thread" point: The post in which Siro was introduced was 17575063, but another pair (Barara & Karen) was linked later in the thread. The next thread (17639901) was titled "Virtual Youtuber / Kizuna Ai Thread".

Bonus:
First mention of Mirai Akari: >>/jp/thread/S17805838#p17808145
First mention of Kaguya Luna: >>/jp/thread/S18013406#p18023276

For the purpose of voting, can I get a rundown of who is all banned for fighting for /meat/ and whatnot?

>>33279207
is it?

>>33297478
/mep/
/mhm/
/v7/

>>33228767
ban the reps for /lazulight/, /v7/, /2434/, /nijien/, /nijimales/, /haha/, /nasfaq/, /mep/, and /mhm/ for bullying and participating in clique behavior

>>33302131
I agree!

>>33302131
Why nasfaqg, what did we do?

>>33302131
nasfaqg did nothing wrong.

>>33302131
Yes

>>33302131
agreed

>>33277751
When will we hear more from your Mountainsama? You know you hate them so tell us more! Tell us why you hate them. On topic of course. What evils have they done in lore.

>>33297478
>panon generation claims it.
Let's see you bans.

>>33302470
They won't lol

>>33302428
Masters of sock puppets is being slain and the holocontinent will be saved

>>33278166
Apologies. Sincerely. We have an infestation right now.
>>33302131
>>33302189
>>33302346
>>33302356
>>33302428
These are all the same fucker.
So if you see hate, it's not us/ infighting. It's an impersonator replying to himself.

The logs are all we need to know that the project is compromised along with this message.>>33271407
I trust mountains word on this and I encourage others to do the same as the /who/ rep.

>>33302557
It's not the schizo that has me personally worried but sort of what he said. I am not in the discord to know the circumstances nor both sides but I really feel like this is not only a bad look but seems like there is a real division. Could be wrong but Mountain saying he knows who it is and all of this tears things shows that something else is going on that worries and discourages me. I am not going to judge anyone, but I can see what the Nousagi left.

>>33302761
It's alright, sort of been a bad week for some of us personally but we will all get through just fine and I don't think there is a division forming like the Schizos want. How is your lore coming along, btw?

>>33302904
Good to hear PP! Knowing what you deal with, was concerned it was hurting you, to be honest, I have kind of been quite busy with things and haven't made much progress. Hopefully this weekend I can work on my map some more and improve my lore!

>>33303042
Great, can't wait to see the progress you are making! I am currently "working" on a big battle in Risu Well, I haven't done anything yet and I can't say I have got much done this week either with IRL things. Keep up the great work!

>>33302761
Again it's mostly him overblowing the situation. There are some personal differences and friction between anons but that is kind of expected when you put different people in the same "working" environment for a long period of time. The last thing we need is having factions and cliques, and you can see the schzio trying to create them by the narratives he's been pushing. You can probably guess there's a leaker in the containment zone. But we are currently avoiding making any sort of accusation both towards this specific case and others since this sort of behavior is one of the prime causes of conflict over the past few weeks. If you do want a bit of detailed context you know where to get it. I'm sorry for the crap this has caused to the thread but it is my firm belief that this would pass or at least decrease in occurrence and severity over time.

>>33284691
Hard to tell since RL examples are somewhat rare (as our planet only has 2 poles), but my guess is that it will make the coast in that part (former /asp/, southern /kr/, and Anya-Petra) colder. More tundra might be expected, and the oceanic climate might not spread as far east as it does now, but otherwise the land environment should remain similar.

>>33303231
I generally do not know where to get it, but seeing PP, whom I knows gets the brunt of things doing well gives me hope.

Hanafag, you still here bro?

>>33306670
Returned to lurking after the retro debacle i caused but yes…

>>33307203
We have the ID3 invasion set ahead of time at 700 VTE and the forming of Warkop sometime after that. Obviously this doesn't match the timeline but PP said we can make an exception. What do you think?

>>33307462
I sort of have an idea that we used to control whatever is left of Bakatare but the Watamelons along with the invaders made us collaspe around 1000 VTE or so.

>>33307968
I like the sound of this. I fully approve.

oh and if i was talking to Warsuner, you can take charge of our lore for a while. I am just going to take a break and pop in to express my opinions on votes and stuff. Decide on the times and such, I will be fine since I trust you.

>>33308616
Thanks bro, take your time. I know why you feel down but we miss you and value you a lot. We all make mistakes

>>33308761
Yeah, i will still pop in to check up and all. Ty

>>33302131
the fuck have we done?
we are a clique only in our own thread fuck off with that shit

>>33302247
>>33302286
>>33309467
stop biting such low-effort bait you absolute retards

>>33310490
Maybe one out of three was made by /nasfaqg/ posters. I agree, don't bite bait, even if you feel positively about us. If a certain narrative is being pushed (i.e. /morig/-/nasfaqg/ votes) just answer once with receipts and ignore those posts if they are repeated.
By the way, to the "third" /nasfaqg/ poster aka. >33302247, post wallet.

>>33310490

>>33271407
Not trying to pile on here, feel free to brush anything off as factionalism or me not understanding. Say "I haven't written lore in a while" or whatever. But given that I have been around long enough to know who you are talking about and know thanks to schizos of all people clarity from your own mouth. I am quite taken aback by your behavior recently because not only have you undermined and made life worse for the people we all know you are talking about thanks to your rant; that's forgivable and understandable given that we all have our own moments of weakness and it wasn't your fault that it got leaked.

However, when it seems to me that you likely have no remorse for them at all and now have actively implied that they are plotting to not only anti you, but are their own antis and that they likely have done this for a long time. That's when it crosses the line in my opinion. Maybe I am a schizo too or whatever, but something tells me you not only are not willing to forgive them for whatever they did, but actively want to cause them problems. I don't know the full context, but I am not buying the narrative that some are putting forth that everything is fine when I see posts like this. If this is how you treat two people that have done a lot for this project, I personally have no desire to work with you and this completely has demotivated me from the project given this and the bullshit I had to deal with from Cunt. I am not leaving, but I am not sure how or if I even want to proceed at this point when it is clear that we have actual writers, perhaps with intent or accidently, repeatedly trying to do harm to others reputations and probably mentally in a way. How would you feel if you were in this situation yourself?

I hope you have made attempts to apologize in private and if so maybe my attitude will change but as it stands, I have lost most of my respect for you given the past few days. I am sure that others will come and try to tell me I am wrong, and I hope I am wrong. But I do not believe I actually am all things considered

Good day.

>>33307203
Hanafag i am sorry that i worded my leaving so awful, know that i deeply regret that my words led to such a misunderstanding and was far from what i intended, i hope i can one day earn forgiveness for that fuck up and the way it has led to hurting you. I hope going forward you can enjoy yourself with the others again

>>33313567
I'm aware what I did was really shit and I hope I never return to whatever retarded schizo mental state I was in when I did it. I'm not going to write a big, long, apology post because I think if I did it would in all honesty only make things worse, but I am aware what I did was really shitty and that its highly hurtful for a lot of people I do generally consider friends, in addition to driving away a lot of new people.

I haven't apologized yet, but I'm going to try to now. After that I'm going to take my own advice and "just write nigger"

I don't like petty drama, just write you fucking niggers.

>>33313652
Why kratos retro nora?
>>33313567
I ignore most everything unrelated to or which would affect lore nanora, aka, Just Write Nigger. it is the proven way to proceed and is the superior mindset, nora. I cannot be bothered to engage with dramatic frivoloty when Hime-sama demands lore.
Speaking of that, Vespbro! I actually might wrote something about the Lusquires in second thought, so anything you would add or questions you have about it would be lovely, naaaaa.

>>33303257
We also don't have a continent at the south pole. So maybe the current is stronger without it. Continents do absorb a lot of energy.

>>33295724
Follow the replies. There's quite a bit of speculation already.

>>33314441
Oh Lunaito, here are the posts about the Lusquire training trip that I could find.
>>30503987
>>30525646

>>33314557
Much thanks nanora! Again, if you've got any ideas you wanted to add on other than what I ask from you, feel free to chime in. I still need to look at the entry for mans but I do enjoy firsthand sources, nora

>>33228726
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-sojourning#day-negative-three
The adventure continues! [SPECIAL PATAPHYSICS EDITION]

>>33302582
Oh man, I got namedropped for something I don't give a shit about, please never involve me or any hooman in these affairs.

>>33316354
Right. rep I plan to go over the history rentry you wrote and have my own spin on it. Of course I will include as much of the stuff you wrote as possible. If possible I would also want your opinion on accurately presenting what happened in the thread in the history and the timeline. As this was a big reason why I never touched the Republic's history. Then I think we can move on to the government proper , also chuubanite. Didn't do much writing in the past few days but at least I got some inspiration.

>>33315671
Maybe the Moriji curriculum could include a monstrology course, now that we've expanded the bestiary a bunch. You're welcome!
>>33316350
Damn, this is fantastic, the imagery is beautiful. Foundational work, as always. The Catalog sure sounds treacherous...

>>33316798
Sounds good. I'll tell you now to just not write anything rule-breaking.
>spoiler
Ehhh

>>33316350
>thread bumps mimic quantum energy state
FUCK THATS GENIUS!!!

>>33317162
You know we can't run away forever right?...

>>33317206
We ain't running away, we're just being more selective in our lore, and other doublespeaks

>>33316350
Would this imply that a thread that's only ever bumped represents the Zero-Point Energy of a quantum system?

>>33254346
Ahh the foreshadowing! Amazing! That merchant really got fucked, nice! Seeing the songstress fully mask off is fun. Praying for the captain.

>>33243415
I need to mention that this is not me. I am not being radio silent for days just to say this. I am trying my best to write something decent for the vsj lore.
Also, Morirep i need you know how much i love you. I looked through the archives and i saw that you defended me when a falseflagger said to take down all vsj lore or something like that. And you're always kind to me, and encourage me when i doupt myself. Thank you so much, I would have left long ago if i didn't have you <3

>>33316915
Of course, fighting giant cavern snakes is would make for a legendary tale to tell between nations, we will have it mounted on the training barracks as a sign of our glory nora! I'll need to begin considering other non candy monsters that might appear in the lusquire travels, nanora...

>>33314441
What the hell, I finally swing by for the week and it's like I was summoned. Was there anything particular you were thinking of, or any specific post you wanted me to check?

>>33317454
No idea really. I only know basic energy physics.
>>33316915
Thanks!
Any more feedbacks? Noticed any interesting lore?

>>33318461
The VT-meter being based off of some obscure italian (?) artefact is exactly what I've come to expect from you, and I love it. As anon said, you worked in the magic quanta nicely without getting bogged down in autism like I would, and the glimpses into the various threads is just pure fun. I'm curious about the physicality of beings in the catalog. Can two travelers touch one another? Fight, maybe?

>>33318297
Nothing in particular, I'd just been wondering about how /mans/ generally deals with schizos in terms of their military and what the civilian populace would be like. Kind of just lots of general ponderings about it since the Lusquires would most likely not spend all their time in the barracks and would interact with other trainees and nearby villages, nanora. It's fun to envision the culture shock on both sides so I want to have a good impression of what /mans/ is like, naaaa

>>33319040
UUUOOOOOHHHH LUNA HIME CUNNY ToT
TAKING OFF LUNA HIME'S THONG AND SNIFFING HER CANDY CUNNY! UOOOHHHHHH
PERO PERO PERO PERO PERO

>>33319040
Okay, so stuff in general. Give me a second and I'll see if I can sum things up that I've had mulling in my head. Might take a bit as I'm writing while watching Vesper rn too.

Trust me I would never post something like that other guy. Thoughts like those stay inside.

>>33228726
https://rentry.org/4846o
/2434/ short letter.

>>33320444
I can feel your tears on this. Tastes so good.

>>33320557
*cums in your mouth*
Like the taste of that?

>>33319234

>>33319743
Oh i know nora, men of honor are distinguished individuals. Not easy to mistake.

>>33228726
/2434/ poem from an anonymous poet.
https://rentry.org/rr3fy

new bread doko?

>>33322309
Make it yourself nora!

>>33228726
https://rentry.org/3sd5k
Another poem from a forgotten poet in /2434/

>>33317920
Sorry, I did say "anon from /vsj+/" but I should've make it clearer than I'm not vsj+ rep.
Also consider using Tripcode if someone impersonates you often.

>>33322983
I'm really happy to hear that, anon, makes my heart feel full. I look forward to whatever you're working on! Also, excited for our divegrass match with you tomorrow! I really dislike when when a shitter impersonates an absent anon, and people who aren't familiar with them get fooled, feels so unfair. Clearing out those misunderstandings is the rare moments I'll interact with schizoposting.

>>33321686
>>33320444
Alice, please be safe.

Has Lunatios tried candy bacon before?

>>33323356
Do you mean Luboar bacon or actual candified bacon? Luboar bacon is sweet but not too sweet, it's rich in flavo and is compatible with non lunaito palettes, it pairs especially well with honey and syrup during breakfasts.