/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33188962
K. I stand by what I said, any character can clear all of the content.

>>33205454
Try finishing Halu before 29 minutes lmao

Please tell me which characters to use to beat hard mode by ranking them using a "got that dawg in her" basis. Thank you.

>>33205252
>Top Tier edition
Should be High Spec but POn edition

>>33207092
Halu was finished by minute 3. Besides, you realize finishing Halu later is actually worse right? The extra enemies early are free XP you'd miss out on waiting to level it.

>>33207204
What about "got that doog in her"?

>>33207204
I don't speak nigger. What does that mean in human language?

Now that 0.4 is out for a few days, has the meta changed or is it still Mumei even nerfed?

>>33207656
For coin farming, Moomay is still the queen.
Roboco is a top tier too but harder to do.

>>33203607
Membership is core for endurance endless runs. But its not needed otherwise, and has a noticeable drawback.

>>33207656
>>33208412
Also anothers anons have posted similar results with Bae and Suisei.
There are great additions to the roster like Fooboos, Okayu and Migo. Kiara was redesign and Irys had some minor buffs.

>>33207321
13.7k kills is not a 3 minute Halu.

>>33208412
I'm not convinced Mumei is actually better than Bae, since Bae gets more damage and can get more kills + a useful special. But Mumei is far and away the easiest, and if you want to spend effort my Roboco run is still the most at 81k as far as I can tell, so Bae doesn't have as much of a niche. The RNG difference between different runs makes a bigger difference than characters though and with obscene luck you can probably get over 90k.

If you're just trying to farm gold for unlocking things you need to restart for Halu from the first level, then just play whatever you get. Restarting past that point will eat too much into your coins/time spent. But if you're trying to get the highest coins you need even more luck and you'll restart if you don't get a good first few minutes. A single super box is another 2-2.5k coins over a normal box, a golden yagoo is like 4-5k (and gives you a box). Taking a gamble on some of the early boxes is the only way to get a super, but if that doesn't happen you've wasted a box.

>>33207204
Just beat it, guess Migo is the one who has that dawg in her

>>33209424
Didja perhaps take a look at my weapons there chief? I took the extra step and avoided collabs entirely, cuz i figured someone in here would just go ahead and try to move the goalposts per usual.

>>33212072
Not getting collabs won't stop enemies spawning you lying Jew.

Roboco sucks
I don't get the hype

>>33212395
Good lord you are dense.
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Enemy
>Maximum Enemy Limit - This determines how many enemies are allowed to be spawned at any given time. The game will stop periodically spawning enemies when this value is reached
There is an enemy cap limit, once that cap is reached, no more will spawn until you kill existing ones. So no collabs = slower kills = slower spawns.

>background A-chan disappears
I love this attention to detail

>>33213259
wdsdib?

explain the rbc battery. how much exp does it give you?

>>33205252
rentry link is very useful. Thank you

>>33214826
>Batteries gives an additional 100% EXP
Double the xp from the enemy that drops it

>>33215121
has OP added new character-specific hints for the new characters?

bandaid or horns?
>both lol
No.

>>33215711
Horns. Bandaid heals too slow, 3 seconds can a fucking long time depending on game state. Also unless you have very high health (300+ish), Horns will more reliablely heal you

those microphone niggas in stage 2 keep fucking me up, especially with halu equipped

>>33215955
thanks bro

>>33215711
Neither and take feather

>>33214305
because a-chan is truly the #1 fan of the girls

>>33215711
If I have healing with my kit Daki if not can i kill a whole lot then Horns. if im gonna be running away alot on hard mode Bandaisd since any damage you can escape from can be healed

>>33199483
> Korone is noob friendly
> But her ceiling is stupidly low
You are talking AS IF
Korone grows at the same speed of other characters, but she has a lower cap,
NO. Korone has a lower growth rate or ATK multiplier. Korone actually grows SLOWER than most characters, which makes her weaker. She doesn't stop growing.
>Korone is noob friendly due her versatility
But her versatility doesn't compensate enough for her weaker spec.
Also, her special causes fingers to pop up in random pattern, and has delayed explosion, this is totally not reliable in pinch situation and not noob friendly.
Her retaliation might encourage noob to take hits intentionally, things might not end when for noob.
If a noob pick a character randomly, he has fairly good chance to pick a character which gives him easier gaming experience.

Does limiter effect Mumei's Friend's pickup range too?

>>33219695
It seems sowith Mumei I wish picking things up off his arcfrom all over screen when i couldnt with just Friend

are there any immortal builds yet?

>>33221500
The old builds don't work anymore.
Kronii build technically still works but no one has succeded so far.

Is this not the supposed version with glitched super item rates?
I have only ever got one fucking super item, what am I doing wrong? I can't be this much of a lucklet on a broken version.
I am not picking the equivalent regular items early and I am not filling the slots early either.

0.4.1662688581 your version
0.4.1662728581 cheat version
0.4.1662787865 my version
It seems your build is a bit older than the cheat build.
I thought the cheat build is the first version the dev published in 9/9.
Anyway, just download the latest version.

>>33222875
I wanted the cheat version because I am a massive lucklet and will never see the super items otherwise.

I do wonder if they add pvp to Holocure, how toxic would the community get?

>>33223010
>guranogs rolling small body dodges 50 times in a row
kay yu nerf this shit

holy fuck

I dunno why but it took me 2 hours to beat the office stage on Halu level 1 with Suisei. Mikodanye almost killed me because I couldn't see her cone with my Business Partners and Mikodanye's own lava overlapping each other. Energy Drink gave me just enough speed to outrun the end stage explosions which last time one shot me. I think the general problem I'm going to have going forward is that there's so much stuff going on from the collabs I lose track of my character and end up getting overlapped with an enemy and dying.

>>33222996
You can ask someone here to upload the cheat version, but beware of viruses/trojans/worms, etc.
>>33223108
>so much stuff going on from the collabs
Try turning off the damage numbers and visual effects.
Turn of the screen shake too.

>>33223253
GIVE ME THE CHEAT VERSION

Ok just did a successful Halu rush Mumei run. No screenshot because I forgot. Weapons are Feather + Elite cooking + Bomb + Tail without collabing the bomb and tail. Defensive item can be whatever after you get dodge but I got lucky with super energy drink. The enemy can't touch me even though I haven't bought all the upgrades yet.

>>33225709
https://files.catbox.moe/iovg0b.zip
Never choose items

>>33225709
>>33226627
Enjoy the virus.

>poll results
buffs for sora and azki inbound?
please make azki more interesting

>>33226690
I haven't done a run with Miko, Okayu or AZKi yet

>>33226690
>Mio not dead last
>Sora that low
>Miko not top 1

>>33226659
Heh goodluck im going to run it on a stolen laptop i bought from jamal

>>33227136
Beware of the cheese pizza in that stolen laptop.

>>33226690
For me its Okayu. Though maybe her sensitive voice passive should count as a mogu when you kill enchanted enemies.

>cheating in a fangame

Between Sora and Korone I can't really decide who is worse. I'm really struggling to beat s1h 5 halu endless on either of them, though I'd also accept just killing Bae. Korone has haste which is nice, but it's not that much haste, and Sora gets some AoE damage, but really both of them struggle to scale up their damage later on. Ankimo and retaliation are basically useless, both specials are pretty weak. Neither have any speed, both have pretty decent personal weapons, both have some middling recovery from their skills. Mio is also pretty weak but at least she has a clear unique play style even if it's not that great, also haven't cleared with her. Admittedly I'm not the best player but I find these three the weakest to play.

By comparison AZKi also doesn't scale well but her kit comes with speed, dodge, and as much haste as Korone. It's easier to get to 20 minutes, though her poor scaling makes endless at 5 halu harder. Suisei gets attack and crit, Miko and Roboco have no issues. Okayu can do meme crit stuff to charm many enemies and gets huge boosts from eating and Fubuki is speed (and indirectly a lot of attack) and some dodge but a bit annoying to play with the need to stay moving.

Of the lot I'd say Sora and Korone warrant substantial buffs or reworks, Mio needs some number tweaks or some knockback/slow/defense, and AZKi could use something offensive. Her AoE damage has the issue where if you start to slow down in kills it compounds and you fall more behind, but she's fun enough to play.

Wtf why is this game so hard and fun now?

>>33231461
Needs more funny red zones desu

21s halu

>>33233400
i died

>>33222875
I must have a bugged version cause boxes will 100% of the time give me a super item

I have yet to try out new Collab Weapons. Any of them is especially good?

>>33219512
>NO. Korone has a lower growth rate or ATK multiplier. Korone actually grows SLOWER than most characters
She fucking doesn't. For comparison both her and Roboco has the same 1x multiplier in Atk, while Orayo has 85% multiplier (hit twice, aoe) and Hi-Spec Pistol has 60% multiplier (hit quadruple times, single line). Her early game is decidedly stronger than Roboco in clearing early mobs no matter how you look at it, so why is Roboco being touted as the best addition in the update but not Korone? Because Roboco fucking scales, while Korone doesn't.
With Growth upgrade, the higher your level the stronger your main weapon is, also Hi-Level giving 1.2% Atk for every level, Roboco entire kit plays around maximizing her EXP gain. The faster you can get Halu 5 and Glasses going, the stronger she gets. This is also evident with Mumei who has TWO, arguably all THREE of her kit being scalable.
That's the sole problem with Korone, she DOESN'T scale. Yubi has max 30% Haste no matter how late it goes, Endurance gives flat 15% reduction and 60% Atk when hit, Coronet only heals for 5 all game so increasing your Max HP through upgrades doesn't even do anything for the amount healed. She peaks pretty easily by getting Brainwashing to 3, but from then on she doesn't grow outside of making collabs.
All the girls grow at mostly the same pace early game, but some have lower ceiling purely because their kit make it impossible for them to scale past 20 mins while the mobs do. That's where the items come into play. Those who don't scale are forced to cover it by picking damage boosting items, while those who do have leeway to pick whatever they want. Which is why some girls are just better in Endless coin farming while some are pretty shit at them.

Is there no way to show your stats at the game over screen?

>>33234086
Not really, I still choose the previous collabs for my first during runs.

>play stage 1 hard mode
>get stuck on the terrain and die
it wasn't until now that I realized how annoying a piece of fence could be

halu is just impossible for me. I tried

>>33234086
Broken Dreams is kind of nice, the rain dish out some good dps while the slow from bubble helps you getting out in case you're surrounded.
Stream of Tears some people here find it to be good since it has alright damage and it hits everything on your screen but it rotates slowly. Personally I don't build it unless RNG is messing with me for the 3rd or 4th collab options.
Rap Dog has low hit damage, average explosion damage but debuffs everything it hit to take 15% more damage. Definitely not something you build first but would be nice to have as the subsequent one.

>>33235234
>>33234086

I find stream of tears too weak compared to the buffs Idol Concert got making it a good knockback weapon. Concert is like 3 streams with knockback faster and better coverage It actuallys a great utility collab like Rap Dog offering ok damage and a debuff. and it puts stream in the bottom tier of collabs

That being said Broken Dreams is great Frozen Sea is basically Mumei feathers with slow with collab level damage and Rap Dogs debuffs make it a utility choice

>>33236259
Does haste affect broken dreams?

28:10
63k
I should've taken Plug Type Asacoco instead of the potato for the knockback.

>>33213115
damn you bullied that anon back to high school
with that said, I assume you got that super idol dress very early and got to spam hatotaurus a lot which helped you tremendously

Okay nerds now that a few more days have passed, lets do the best character poll again. 5 votes, just pick the characters you think are generally the best.

https://strawpoll.com/polls/jVyGJmlz9Z7
https://strawpoll.com/polls/jVyGJmlz9Z7
https://strawpoll.com/polls/jVyGJmlz9Z7

>>33237773
Horns are what got you killed.

>>33238808
What should I take instead of the horns?

>>33238952
Damage.

>The total amounts of HoloCoins needed to obtain all upgrade:
>Launch : 183,425 HoloCoins
>Ver. 0.4: 963,625 HoloCoins
Jesus christ, what is wrong with kay yu

>>33239110
>Amount of coins you could get in a run:
>Launch: 8k
>Now: 80k+

>>33239154
Max I have seen is like 70k, not every player can even get there, AND you need a good amount of upgrades already to even get that much (coin upgrades alone, which is obviously needed, are like 220k coins)

>>33239288
>>33197853
New record 80k in prev thread.

>>33239288
Nope, I hit 80k yesterday, and the thread record is Roboco with 81k.

>>33239288
While 70k is a bit harder, you should get at least 60k if you're doing correctly.
This Sana run I played is not optimal and she died at 28 minutes, I still got 63k with only Study Glasses, Halu, and Piggy Bank.

>>33239288
>>33239367
I forgot about the 81k >>33146936

>>33240029
The effect that Halu has on your coins can't really be understated. Spawning more enemies means more coin drops, more exp, and more anvils on top of the Halu bonus at the end of the run.

>>33240085
I really should play some Roboco and see if I can take the thread crown.

>>33227390
It already does

I DID IT
I BEAT STAGE 2
FUCK TOUHOU
GOD BLESS YOU SUISEI AND KIARA'S ITEM

>>33242182
Congratulation, anon!

>>33240129
that bonus doesn't mean shit if you get swarmed and die

>>33242952
Skill issue. You can get H5 by 1:30 and be fine.

>Ok so this one is Dr,Who surpised there wasent more British stuff
>Its basically Aquaman as a cute girl/Fins under hood in al costume
>A Lovecraftian cult leader probably villian
>A dancer with Pheonix weapons/Add catgirl after seeing alt outfit
>Overworked Grim Reaper moonlighting as Rapper to avoid job
>Pretty much nailed CouncilRys outside of thinking Mumei was humanity
>A Fox Samurai. Friendzone made him think she was chaste/pure noble type
>A Wolfgirl soceror that summons a minotaur
>A Cat that charmed her way into a resturaunt
>The guard dog at the resturaunt that eats fingers and probably hates the cat
>Sailor Moon expy as leader of the good guys
>An artifical rival to Sora
>Robot girl made by the same people as Azki probably a genius
>An Axe crazy villian only not killing to play tetris
>Thought she ws a loli priestess until ero hero and Demon Lords domain then thinks she a villian with Suisei due to micomet

Ever shown someone who doesnt know anything about Hololive this game with no context and gauging their reactions? Only works if they are willing to play and actually enjoy the game

>>33242952
Its a little character RNG and skill dependant but it can be done and fast. If you cant handle Halu at full power raise it slowly and max glasses first then get a little more power and step it up

>>33243166
I don't have friends.
I can't even friend Fubuki.

>>33242952
On G21 and full Atk upgrade most lv 1 main weapon can oneshot the Miofa in Stage 2, so once you get them there's no reason not to take Halu 5 ASAP.

Can't wait to play as Rushia!

>Max out credit card
>Only two anvils spawned in the whole run
I feel scammed

>>33246028
Credit card is mega gatcha especially if you dont have Halu maxded. You sometimes get absolutely nothing because the chance of them dropping isnt that high and without Halu for tons of enemies you arent going to see much payoff

Anyone else likes how Sora's build makes you stay close to enemies in order to heal them even if it hurts you?
Thematic builds are the coolest shit

How well does Broken Dreams works with Suzy that has ultra high crit?

>>33239110
had to rebalance, even with halu 5 the game is so easy any regular player can get at least 40-50k a run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki4H5KRDqoU
Lui-nee

What upgrades in the shop are recommended first outside of special and growth? I put 5 points into attack and speed and then realized there's even more after that. I think I also put 5 points in the exp upgrade too.

>>33248510
>>33200555
>>33200663

>Super Energy Drink on Mumei
Parry this

>>33248985
Why would she need more speed?
Playing Mumei is AFK-ing after she kills A-chan.

All these weapons and not a single collab...

>>33248387
>struggling as Miko
Lui....

>>33248510
Its the same concept as being in game.Upgrade the thing that gets you more things to make it pay off in the long run. In game you get Glasses/Halu in the shop you get coin/exp

Isn't Broken Dreams redundant if you have Frozen Sea? I feel like when enemies get slowed down by icicles, they don't get even slower when they enter the bubble, seems like they can only be affected by one type of slowdown at a time

>>33248569
I just can't seem to do halu with mumei in s1h
I can do it with rbc fine but I just can't seem to get it with mumei

>>33249999
I don't know if it's redundant but even if they weren't I don't see why you'd want both. I go Broken Dreams if I want MiComet and Frozen Sea if I want Elite Cooking.

>>33237494
So you purposefully didn't collab Cutting Board and Lamy Water for their knockback effects?

>>33249999
because they don't stack each other, anon. you either get one of them and get another collab

>>33250828
Well that explains a lot, I've been getting both in hopes for mega slow

Just started playing after the recent update, finally unlocked all the playable Holos!
Migo is the easiest to use, Mio is hell mode, idk if she's supposed to be that hard.
Can't wait for all the other JPs to get added!

>>33243166
My partner looked over my shoulder and saw me doing Moomy gold grind and asked if I was having fun.

>>33251041
Next update is probably going to be gen1 and 2 unless they go for dumb shit like holostars or id

>>33251041
Mio is a mess, her kits are anti-synergistic with each others. Mama and Laugh want you to stay as close as possible to the mobs, but her main weapon is a single line throwable cards, also her ult does heavy knockback so they're thrown outside the aoe for Laugh and you lose the bonus damage. The special meter filling effect from Omen only proccing if the Omen itself scores kills also doesn't help with how pitiful the range of her cards are and mobs probably dying to your collabs first anyway.
For now just wait for them to buff her, playing her is suffering.

my personal best

I can't survive the first couple minutes in Stage 2, I always get swarmed by those fucking cats

Stage 2 question: near the end of the stage where the Roboco fans are in play, there's the instance of where they do a march from right to left, herding you into a line of explosions. Am I supposed to:

Line break the Roboco fans
Sprint away from the Roboco fans and hope I make it past the explosions?

>>33251041
I think theres enough external healing where Mama can be changed to something to better synergize with her. Omen needs to be changed to a debuff or apply within a range instead of your card throws since once you get collabs like >>33251716 said, you aint getting many omen procs to really get your mileage from it being a skill slot.

>>33252038
you can kill those fans easily enough to make a hole for yourself. What I liked about the stage 2 waves was that they were actually killable to compensate for the small stage space.

Every time the microphones show up, that's the run ender. I'd rather fight like 8 Bae's at the same time if I'm being completely honest with you.

>>33249999
Broken dreams only slows at the bubble and still does solid damage to pretty much everything. frozen Sea is spreading more slow around while still hitting for pretty good damage against a good nunber of things so tis fine to have both with the slow as a bonus

>>33252398
the first microphone wave is kinda rough if you dont have the dps to kill them fast enough. Its pretty much a gear check phase at that point.

>>33248510
max out Reroll. because without this shop upgrade, you're at the mercy of this game's RNG bullshit.

How it works is that whenever you level up, you have pick from 4 items/skills, right? Well, what if you don't like any of those options.
with Reroll, you can reshuffle it and get 4 new item/skills that are (hopefully) less shitty options to choose from.
Reroll Lvl 1 lets you reroll Once per game, Reroll Lvl 5 gives you 5 tries to reroll per game, etc.

>game dropes
>chubas only play as Mori and no one else
>update dropes
>chubas only play as Miko and no one else
Why are woman like this? Have some variety for fuck sake

Fauna, the party's healer.

Can you actually survive through the waves of yagoo after the 30 min mark? All the screenshots I'm seeing suggest you can't, but

>>33253820
Certain characters with certain builds can still survive a little while but nowhere near where it was last version

>>33253820
Some of them could, but there's no real merit in trying it since the YAGOOs will still scale every minute and eventually overwhelm you. It's probably there to prevent stuff like Ina surviving forever in the old version from happening again.

>>33253347
their cleave weapons are very easy mode.

>>33253820
Roboco can last 35+ minutes with super gorilla's paw and enough haste (thanks to the freeze effect of the batteries). Fubuki can survive for a short while with her evasion as long as you stack speed. I don't know if there are any others who can.

>>33213259
You know what would've been funny and something I really want Kay to implement? If you clear Holo Office, when you go to the shop the next time, the A-chan has a bandage on her head and a small tear on her eye.

>>33251663
Is going to be ID the references are a hint.

>>33254273
ID would be rad but bundling gen 1 in it as well might be an easy win since fubuki is already in the game.

>>33254273
Gen 1 and ID1/2 would be fine. They could maybe do ID3 in a mixed set with Tempus down the line

>>33254486
Fuck off back to /mans/ homoshitter.

>>33253820
>>33254159
Longest I've seen so far is ~38 minutes as Gura. I've gotten 37 minutes myself. I'm going to try some different builds tonight after work to see if I can go longer.

>>33254159
I ran with FBK for 5 minutes once. But other than Fubuki and Roboco, another anon in these /vt/ threads got to 8 minutes with Gura.

>>33250934
As a general rule, similar debuffs don't stack. So for example Rap Dog won't stack with Shark Bite, since they are both "increase damage taken" debuffs.

>>33254452
I think Gen 1 (4 slots) plus ID1 and ID2 (total 6 slots) could be a good compromise. Or in a ideal scenario for me: Gen 1 and Gen 2 (9 slots) plus ID1 (3 slots). But how knows. There are not announcements of the next release, so we can only speculate.

>>33253820
gura can
she has an avoidance passive and a healing passive
as long as you have good enough stats and headphones you can survive for a while

>>33254577
>>33254626
>8 minutes
>Gura
literally how? Every time I've tried Gura I get insta-deleted even with headphones.

>>33254574
Kay has already said he wants Stars in in. Cry about it run from it. It will happen all the same

>>33254758
You better ask that another anon for Gura strategies. I dunno how he did it, honestly.

I tried to do Gura myself, but only got to 4 minutes at best.

>>33254758
get more health

>>33254696
to be fair the update hasnt been live for a week. Dude probably wants to chill and collect feedback first. I'm actually super interested to see if Rushia or coco make it into the game at all when their gens come.

Coco seems like a good bet since her graduation was on pretty good terms. Rushia though is a gamble, since yeah shes present on the tv in the hologure screens, but I dont know if as a dev he wants to open up that can, but if you dont include her you open up a different can if you dont include her but coco later since then you cant even fall back on "im not including any graduated holos at the time of development"

>>33254860
i dont know much about Stars but tempest might be some pretty fun characters to play as. Mag alone with his funny arms could be neat and he could throw potions and shit.

>>33254758
This was my setup for 7 minutes, but can be improved. The 8 minutes had only 2 collabs to focus more on stat bonuses and glasses for EXP (more status bonuses). Just Bandage is probably too slow so I plan to sub it for something else. Body Pillow/Headphones/Membership/Halu are core, with the other two somewhat in the air.

>>33255069
Oh and to add, it seems stage 1 might be better than stage 2. Seems to give you more XP.

>>33254758
Here's my Gura run. As for strategies, I just went for as much damage avoidance and XP as possible. Daki gives 25% reduction, Memberships gives another 25%, Headphones stacks with Short height for ~58% chance to dodge. Grab Halu and Glasses early so you have as much XP as possible. Focus HP upgrades for survival. Don't overload on Collabs because you want as many stat upgrades as possible, since damage isn't the issue.

>>33254860
Fucking kek, he ain't finishing this you dumbfuck retard. Even if he said that (which I doubt unless you wanna provide a link to the tweet) he probably just said it to shut up obnoxious homobeggars because he knows he's quitting long before he'd get to them. But again, fuck off back to your containment.

>>33255596
>he knows he's quitting long before he'd get to them
>has been creating hololive content (for the girls themselves) for over 2 years now
>has been creating games even longer
Say what you will, dude's dedicated. I wouldn't doubt he goes through with it.

>>33255596
as a self proclaimed polka I doubt he would let it end without adding Polka to the game first.

>>33255596
>If he said it he didn't mean it!
Boy.

>>33255596
For a guy that hates Stars you sure are downing Magnis copium

>>33254486
I'd honestly give Stars gen 1 the spot first

>>33254969
>but I dont know if as a dev he wants to open up that can, but if you dont include her you open up a different can if you dont include her but coco later since then you cant even fall back on "im not including any graduated holos at the time of development"
To play devil's advocate, Rushia never graduated but was instead outright fired, that should give Kay some wiggle room to exclude her and include Coco if need be

>>33256087
For seniority they earned they spot. But at the same time they present the problem of what to do with the characters of Kira and Suzaku. They are not the same extreme case of Mano, but at the same time they are not being part of Hololive for almost 2 years...

>>33256259
Yeah thats a fair route to go I think. Kinda a shame since a necromancer character could be unironically cool since the tools are already in to change an enemy's hostile state. If rushia brought back dead enemies of skelebros that do X damage before crumbling that would be radical.

>Holocure (base game)
11 girls. Myth, Hope, and Council
>Update 1
9 girls added. Gamers and JP Gen 0
>Update 2
9 girls. ID Gens 1/2/3
HoloID most likely next.
>Update 3
10 girls. JP Gens 1 & 2
>Update 4
10 girls. JP Gens 3 & 4
There's ingame references to Rushia and Coco.
>Update 5
10 (or 9) girls. Gens 5 & 6
The headphones are an Mano Aloe reference, but who knows if she'll actually be added.
Unlike Rushia/Coco and their massive fanbases, Aloe didn't leave the same impact that they did. She was only in Hololive for like 1 month and had so few streams.

HoloStars is iffy. There's a small possibility, but don't bet too much on them being added.
As for Chris and HoloCN, there's no ingame references to them whatsoever.

>>33258140
>Update 3
10 girls. JP Gens 1 & 2
It's 11 girls if you count Hitomi Chris which is very unlikely to be included.

Anyone got that excel Kay Yu posted about his plan on gen updates?

>>33255596
https://old.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/xapm7c/literally_the_first_thing_i_tried_to_do_when_i/inz5al7/

>ONTOP of that, We still have all of ID, 6 gens of JP, all of Holostars, whom all will need their own unique weapons. That's ~50-60 new weapons I'll need to come up with to be unique in their own way plus their skills. So planning for that means there's extremely little room to create additional general weapons and items where it won't overlap with existing effects. This makes proper planning and pacing new general weapons and items even more important. Will this task be impossibly difficult? Yeah probably. Will I make it out of this alive? Possibly not. Will I aim to do it regardless? Yes.

>>33243166
these are pretty close actually, guess Cover's character concepts are generally solid

>>33252398
definitely a damage check wave
you can kind of tell earlier since you'll struggle to kill Mikodayne quickly, and you'll be doing a lot of kiting before 10 minutes. go harder on collabs and get a 50% damage item

>>33257074
Mind you, when I say that, i don't think Rushia will be cut, it's more just in case if management stops letting the holomems play the game if Rushia is added

>>33260713
have none of them mentioned rushia when she shows up on the tv screen? i know some mentioned coco before.

>>33260943
I don't know to be honest

>>33260943
I think Ollie did but that's it.

How to play robor properly?

I also cant tell if the only manager ask is to not talk about Rushia being fired or not even mention Rushia ever in any capacity.

In any case it might be a good idea for the dev to reach out before they start working on rushia to see if its okay to include her for streaming purposes.

>>33261276
>In any case it might be a good idea for the dev to reach out before they start working on rushia to see if its okay to include her for streaming purposes
Smart idea, now getting in touch with a manager is the hard part

>>33261466
i gotta think at this point a manager would at least make a half hour for them, dude provided 100+ hours of content for the streamers, as well as the free advertising that went with it. How they come into contact would be the hard bit, I mean he already has kiaras info since he sent her the update a few days early.

>>33261128
glas

>>33261128
If you don't know what you're doing = Rush lv 7 main weapon then improvise from there
If you know what you're doing = Rush Halu 5 and Glasses

>>33262278
Damn even with over 600 HP you still die.

>>33262507
New Yagoo waves are now joke. The only way to realistically go beyond ~40 minutes would be avoiding them entirely, which is nearly impossible. Kronii could possibly do it, but with less haste being offered on levelup, and the new way her bubble is displayed, makes it unlikely. Fubuki could also possibly do it with high haste, since Friend Zone's cooldown scales, but the amount of haste you would need is unrealistic.

This Rushia talk reminds me that her presence in that one fangame Mumei played seemed fine.

>>33263108
Rushia didn't get Stalin photo'd out of existence, hell she's even still in Noel's background after so long. I'm not sure how many JPs would play as or talk about her but just her being there wouldn't cause any issue.

Do you need a controller to do well? I can't even get to 30:00 in endless with no halus.

Aww, man. I was so close to 40 minutes too.

apparently i got the version where boxes always drop super items, and i gotta say im happy i got that version lol. Farming to even attempt to try stage 2 is way comfier like this.

>>33265953
No you don't need to.

>>33265953
I play with what is effectively sticky keys on keyboard and can easily do 30 minutes endless. Skill issue.

>>33254626
>No Halu 5
You didn't survive the YAGOOs.

Desperately trying to mogu mogu tank YAGOOs but no luck. I think they swarm too fast to apply charm to them effectively.

>>33265159
>she's even still in Noel's background after so long.
she's also on pekora's twitter banner

>>33221500
>Kronii
Cannot reach perma-bubble. No amount of haste will bring it lower than a 1 second gap between bubbles. It also doesn't always spawn on you; so you have to keep running to the next one.
>Bae
I couldn't get enough hits per second to perma-stun everything. Died very quickly.
>Okayu
Wasn't much different from Bae when it came down to the parts of the kit that matter. She might not have to care about Yagoo's HP, but that doesn't matter when she gets overrun.
>IRyS
Eventually dies to RNG heals and Yagoo's scaling outpacing stat upgrades. Mostly the former. Missing a 30% chance 20 times in a row is a mere 1 in 1253. During that time, her other defenses will not keep her alive. For me that was around 35 minutes in.
>Gura
Did okay until the damage ramped up and/or she failed a bunch of dodge rolls. She died around 38 minutes.
>Roboco
Was my best at ~39 minutes, but they eventually outscaled her damage output. The reduced kill speed, starting at ~60/sec and ending up around ~30/sec, led to less batteries and therefore less stuns. The RNG nature of battery drops means she would probably fail anyway given enough time.

The common theme with most characters is that if their survival plan is based on RNG it will eventually fail. As far as I can see, it's impossible to survive enough hits to get Piki Piki Piman to fill an invulnerability special and then loop vulnerable to invulnerable to vulnerable. Mainly because the item has a cooldown but incoming attacks do not. So I'm not aware of any other character worth testing. Maybe if you stack enough movement speed and are extremely good at running away with FBK you could go as long as you wanted. But that's not what people tend to mean when they say "immortal". I'm fairly confident that a defensive setup is not able to go infinite. Unless someone comes up with a hyper-offensive "Kill every Yagoo before it reaches you" build, I'm saying it can't be done.

>>33268728
IRyS and Gura are the only older version's characters who can still survive Yagoo in newer builds.
Kronii can technically do it but requires an impossible amount of Haste upgrades.
Ina was the immortal queen in older versions but she can't survive Yagoos at all now.

>>33266139
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

>>33269097
Let him enjoy the easy modo for virgins.
Kyahahahaha~

>>33268728
>No amount of haste will bring it lower than a 1 second gap between bubbles.
Unless they changes the haste calculations this patch, you get bubble overlap at ~275% haste. Granted, with the way the game is now it would be near impossible to reach that before the Yagoo's, but hey.

Reminder that I'm now this thread's top Mumei at 80k and top Roboco at 83k.

>>33269428
Moomay 71k here

>>33268728 (me)
I got a spam warning when I tried to include Mio in the original post so here she is.
>Mio
She should have been able to hit 100% reduction with the shop upgrade(15%), membership(25%), Super Pillow(30%), and her special active(30%). The Yagoo swarm killed her extremely quickly through all of that. Damage reduction is either not additive or it has a cap. Either way it sucks.

>>33269231
I went to 300% and it felt no different than 200%. I know you used to be able to get overlapping bubbles but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I think Kay capped the cooldown reduction on it. I only survived long enough to even try because I used plushie to reduce the vulnerability period between bubbles.

>>33269929
>capped the cooldown reduction on it.
Unfortunate. I assume that means cooldown has been affected across the board, so haste strats in general probably won't work.

What holos work best with injection type asacoco?

>>33270987
Anyone with enough self heal from skills to offset the damage?

>>33270987
All holos in Hardcore mode.

Did I make it? Is this the longest one for Stage 2 yet?

>>33271574
Scroll a bit, some 39 minutes anons are here.

>>33271609
That one is Stage 1 Endless though, we still have no data whether the stat and scaling on Stage 2 Endless YAGOO is the same with that one. I did see another Stage 2 Endless one with 38:40.

https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1570554756443279360

>>33272366
>minor changes on Sora
I hope she becomes better.

>>33272366
PATCH NOTES DOKO?

>>33272528
It's usually in the zip file.

>>33272528
Latest Build: 9/15/2022

Build 9/15/2022

-GENERAL-
-Fixed a number of bugs.
-Bosses now have a shorter hitbox compared to their sprite height.

COLLAB CHANGES:

STREAM OF TEARS
-Increased overall damage.

BROKEN DREAMS
-Increased damage on raindrops.


-ITEMS-

-NURSE'S HORN
-Increased the chance to activate from 20% to 30%.

-CHARACTERS-

-SORA-
-Changed the behavior and effects of Ankimo
-Idol Dream has a new effect: 10% of damage dealt by the Idol Wings is converted to healing

>>33272637
>Defensive item buffed
I sleep.
>One of the game's best collabs buffed
Real shit.

>>33272637
Why are they buffing broken dreams? I thought it's already one of good collabs?

>>33272637
>Bosses now have a shorter hitbox compared to their sprite height.
Wasn't there some anon complaining about that the other day?

>>33272637
>>-Changed the behavior and effects of Ankimo
>Ankimo runs to the targets closest to Sora and pulls them away. Pulled targets have a X% chance to be immobilized for 3 seconds.
Much better than his randomly taunting enemies in her damage zone further away, but i feel the taunt mechanic may still be problematic. Time will tell.

I fully expect Broken Dreams to be the best collab now.

>>33272637
Current latest version is 0.4.1663282758

>>33272637
I'm surprised they're buffing the raindrops and not the bubble since the raindrops already dealt enough dps as it was. Also buffing the damage on Stream of Tears instead of the rotating speed is kind of whatever since damage isn't really the problem with it.

>-Idol Dream has a new effect: 10% of damage dealt by the Idol Wings is converted to healing
I'm curious if this means all damage dealt while they are active, or just 10% of the 50% bonus they provide. Either way, that makes her special incredibly strong due to the self synergy (boost damage, damage becomes healing, which is also boosted, which damages enemies) Have to see how it works in game, but sounds powerful.

Why is Sora's ult so garbage? Are her wings even meant to kill anything? I swear most enemies just tank through that shit. Her being slow as shit doesn't help

>>33272934
It's a big deal for Yagoo's though, for anyone doing endurance. Yagoo's model is large enough that the both stream projectiles constantly hit it when it's on top of you. Boosting the damage makes it even more appealing in that scenario

>>33272973
Her ult increase her ATK.

>>33272366
Why can't I update the game with the launcher?

The visual on soras thing helps a lot, makes it feel like it actually does damage

>>33273188
Dunno, had the same trouble, try opening the launcher as administrator, that's how I made it work

I did it! I passed the 40 minute mark with Gura! And not only that, I also got 85,465 coins in the process!

Plus, I recorded it on OBS too. Check it out: https://files.catbox.moe/tjl9ls.mp4

Bro, Sora's idol dream heals 20% of damage dealt with ONLY the angel wings for 10 seconds

>>33273236
Already ran it as administrator, still doesn't work for some reason

>>33273273
By running it in administrator I assume you did the right click, run as administrator, right? the game tends to ask for perms when I open it by double clicking, but that doesn't count as running it as administrator.
If that's of no help, then the only thing I can advise you is to search how to allow the game the launcher to write files

>>33273512
Yes, I did that

>>33259763
Good to know my favorite hags will be playable in future before he drops the game
Whats the time gap between releases and the big update with playable JPs? I want to guess the rough estimate when holoX is going to come

>>33273244
Now all you need is to roll super glasses and super body pillow to go further.

>>33273596
The only thing I can suggest them is to search for a way to allow the launcher to write files then, that or manually update the game
>>33274033
He took around two months to add Gamers+Gen0
But that's the first update where he added more holos, so it's hard to predict if that's going to be the usual timeframe

>>33272736
People have complained about it since the first release months ago

finally made it to 30minutes for the first time, using fubuki
>no halu and no SCT so only 2500 coins
it was worth it

>>33276119
Good job. Having upgrades makes it easier.

Soda-chan only got 54k because I spent coins for weapons/collabs anvil (all at least +3) and took ATK, SPD and HP during level ups.
But at least I got tons of anvils (at least 20 without CC) and 3 triple boxes.
If I didn't have the feather (from one of the triple boxes), I won't reach Yagoo because she kicked the bucket at 29 minutes.

>first Sora run past the buff
Much better for sure

>>33258140

HoloStars will be added, according to this image: https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1502097769153974276

>>33277553
Ruined

How would you describe Migo's playstyle /cure/?

I've used her, I enjoy her, but I don't exactly "get" her. Every other new addition's overall gimmick is very straight-forward, in comparison. Her kits' a little all over the place, I don't notice a unifying theme.

>>33272637
Miobros... buff doko...

>>33277770
stack AOE effects to proc bonus damage while gathering up a big train. Then use supper to clear it all out repeat.

>>33272973
Read the description. It increases her healing.
One of her Skills damages enemies based on how much healing she receives.
Burgers become grenades.

is mio's attack a reference to mom's knife
it functions the same way and the whole mio mama thing seems a little on the nose

>Do several clears in a row without a single Halu appearing
....

>>33277145
Did you take stat upgrade when you level up?

>>33277553
Nice, that mean I can play as Pizza dad.

>>33278176
This is why you restart for halu.

>Buffing Sora before Mio

This was supremely easy, but then I died almost immediately to Yagoo. Like, not even 10 seconds in.
I got pickup a few more times, and I think at 600% I didn't even have to move to get anything on the screen.
Got 24k coins, but didn't manage to cap the screen.

>>33277770
She uses AOE to apply debuffs and healing as a back-up as opposed to Sana that is using AOE for damage/knockback

Is Broken Dreams post update the best collab right now?

>>33278283
Sora was weaker than Mio by a good amount. Mio takes a little work to build around her ult whereas Sora had exactly zero builds outside of trying to build the same collabs for damage everyone else did and hoping her generic damage boost could clear things.Now her healing is more useful Ankimo protects her better and her damage is still pretty solid

>>33278283
It was needed desu. Ankimo was striaght up cancer before the patch because he pulled enemies away from her star sweet-spot, and her special felt like it did nothing. Mio's on the weaker side, but she clears better than Sora and while her kit is not the most cohesive, none of it actively works against her like Ankimo did for Sora.

>>33243166
>>An artifical rival to Sora
>>Robot girl made by the same people as Azki probably a genius
thats kind of a neat idea actually.
wot if azki is the ai and roboco is her vessel.

SO there's 39 minutes on stage 2. But I really don't feel like any thing will push past much further playing defensively.

>>33278283
at least with Mio you could spam ult for easy clears, what did Sora even have

>>33277553
>>33278195

There's also a more recent response on reddit
>>33259763

>>33278487
i always thought the lack of coherant builds were her problem but yeah Ankimo was a afterthought at best an inconvience to your strat at worst

>>33278195
Dude is underrated and streams almost as much as Kaela. I love that him and Oga arent the stereotyphical bishie pretty boy too

>>33278642
a multi hit attack that functions like the ripper from dead space?

>>33272716
Broken dreams is better for characters with really high scaling, but I'm not actually sure it was that strong for characters without much bonus attack. The raindrops don't do very much without bonuses, though this probably just makes it even better for Roboco/Bae/Mumei. It's hard to know without an end of game stats page like VS has.

That's a lot of coins. Imagine if I had the glasses

>>33213259
I didn't even know she was there the whole time

Anyone notices that anvils show up more frequently?
Played Sofa-chan before and anvils appears like 20 times without Credit Card.
Now playing Azki and look at those 8 anvils laying around.
Not counting all the anvils I've taken before these 8 appears.
Many times 2 anvils appear almost at the same time.
And I don't have Credit Card.

>>33226690
>spoiler
What exactly is interesting about her besides being a good singer that never streams?

>Have the game properly updated to the latest version
>Start the launcher
>Launcher claims there is another update
CAILLOU I SWEAR TO GOD FIX YOUR STUPID LAUNCHER

>>33279846
she's also an OL slave married not to me

where does Kay Yu put up patch notes?

>>33280306
Its in your folder for the game whenever you update

question
do i need to have roboco ranked up to start doing 30k+ coin runs or can i do it with the base character

>>33279770
either youre just lucky or this is super bug two: anvil boogaloo

Bae or Suisei?

>>33258140
Yeah aloe wasn't around long enough to have any quirks you could make a character out of. I'm not sure rushia will make it in either because of the termination instead of graduation. It is a big deal.

>>33280726
I miscounted the anvils, it's 9 anvils, not 8, I missed one at the left part near the big vertical table.
I'll post later if I find lots of anvils in my next game.
I feel weird because I found so many anvils in 2 consecutive games.
I sometimes get lucky and find lots of anvils in a game but it happens rarely, not two games in a row.

Did they change anything in the chances for the anvils? I swear I must be past my 10th right now in less than 17 minutes

>>33281160
>>33279770
>>33281062

I'm retarded. I had almost perfect Mumei endless run, first item halu, first collab flattening board, other items piggy bank, glasses, super chatto, other collabs concert, stream of tears, elite cooking... and I lost to a-chan. She insta killed me cause I ate all 5 fast bullets that she does when she rushes towards you. So that being said, whats the best item to save me from a-chan? When I get better I won't have problems with her, I suppose, but for now I'll sacrefice one item slot for her.

Is the Ancient One affected by haste at all? I know Area affects it.
Is it safe to say Ina isn't broken anymore after the horns nerf?

>>33281318
I usually wait till she's spamming rotating blue bullets to attack her.
>>33281358
She can't Yagoo now.

anvil drop was buffed alright

>>33281639
I knew it.
I thought I was super lucky in my 2 games (Sora+Azki).

time to do a credit card run. see if i cant crash the game through anvil spam

This was actually a "better" run than my 81k run but I didn't get a super or a golden yagoo. I got one triple and gambled on three boxes trying to get a super, none of which worked out for me. I spent a few hundred on upgrades so this would have been 80k +- 100 if I didn't. If I had a super, especially super milk (or super glasses, which would have been possible on the first box), I could have reasonably expected 82k+. It's more luck than anything now. I think an unreasonably lucky run could probably do 90k if you get a good super and a golden yagoo after max SC.

Anvils feel more common but given their rarity and the variance I can't really say for certain here. I did finished my 4 collabs earlier this time compared to my 81k run. Can't tell how much buffed broken dreams helped.

>28m endless on 1hard with Ina
Man those bastards near the end are tough, I was simply not damaging them fast enough even with 4 collabs and I don't think AO chan was doing anything since they're bosses. Ina's built for stage mode I guess.

Real question, why is Ame's awakened attack so weak? Why not giver her dual pistols or a tommy gun or something?

I know its peanuts compared to many, but had my best coin run so far, even without superchatto time and a very late Halu

Last line of AZKi's Encore's description "+10% song damage"

But Encore doesn't affect damage of Diva Song. Idol Song, and Idol Concert.

Am I right?

>>33278188
a few crits, but not many

Yeah these anvils are ridiculous, expect a bug fix release. This was a terrible run and it was still 80.5k.

Mio's weapon is garbage but it could be fixed if the upgraded range was the default range.

>>33286349
Okayu: I see. You prefer curves.

>>33280845
I like Suisei over Bae, but I just can't clear the S1Hard without super gorilla grip :/

The Great Dilemma of AZKi's Encore.

"The more enemies you killed in last 7 seconds, the more attack power you will be granted."

WHY THE FUCK do I need attack buff if I can kill many enemies in the first place?

should I just run the fuck away from beeg migo? there's so little space to circle strafe her

>>33286665
It means don't ever stop killing, or you might be overwhelmed

83716
No supers, one triple, no golden yagoo. Two failed gambles for supers and I fat fingered one level up and walked into a third box, directly costing me 720 or it'd be over 84k.

Fucking anvils, this is obscene. This is better than my 81k run with super milk, but if he brings the anvil drop rate back down to something sane I don't think I'd want to count this one.

>>33287798
>those anvils
wtf
is your game up to date? mine is and i havent seen that many even with level 5 card

>>33287881
Yeah, I kinda suspect the newest version (3 hours ago) is bugged and this isn't intentional. If the anvil rate is truly bugged and this wasn't intentional then I personally wouldn't count this one, just like I wouldn't count any records on the superbug version.

>>33287973
did you try updating it again?
maybe im just unlucky on a bugged build

>>33273244
>85465
isnt this a new record?

>>33288038
Only if you count runs going past 30 minutes. Adjusted for time spent it's less than 65k / 30 minutes. We've had a few others that have really high coin counts.

>>33254174
lol

>>33288155
ogey

>>33288016
Yeah I downloaded another new version and it's different, but I'm still seeing a ton of anvils, a lot more than I was before today. Maybe not as many, we'll see how this run goes.

This is the version I'm currently playing

1 yagoo run, i feel like i can get more since i cant find any superchat untill 20mins and i say fuck it just take the milk. can i replace horn ? i feel like i only need it for 10-18mins since they cant even touch me after i finish 3 collabs

Anvil build might be more broken than super cheat build. Feel like you completely blast through level curve

84378, no bugged build, one triple box, no supers, no golden yagoo. No fucking milk either. I think this is the thread record. Anvils have definitely been nerfed from the version I was playing so >>33287798
doesn't count, not that it matters with this run.

Sorry >>33289118, you had a short run, but you did narrowly beat out >>33146936

Way too many anvils. MiComet was actually level 18 and I only stopped upgrading it because I ran out of coins. Weirdly enough, the chance to upgrade after 15% goes back up to 25% on later levels for some reason.

>they suddenly hit pretty hard
what the fuck? this is bullshit

>less anvil
>more anvil
which one is it?

>>33290888
They scale a lot more aggressively in 0.4. In the older versions their scaling was very slow so you could keep ahead of them by leveling up your health enough. Now they either scale a lot more or scale faster than linearly, I think the longest that has been posted in the thread is just over 40:00.

stream of tears still shit

>>33291067
There are three versions. Earlier today there was a build (anvilbuild/anvilbug) with way too many anvils. The current version has less anvils than that build, but still seems to have more anvils than the builds before today.

does anyone have the too many anvils build

>>33291075
Fuck, that sucks. I thought I'd enter loop with this set-up, and Sora was already rank 20.

So new update, new bugs.
Starting the game with the launcher, arrow keys don't work.
Starting the game via the exe, arrow keys work.

Monkeys on a typewriter coding this game.

Based Kay Yu discriminating against k*yboard subhumans.

>>33293178
This is what I found when I'm looking at the save data.
>duplicate outfits, code monkey coding level

"unlockedOutfits":[
"default",
"kurokami",
"kurokami",
"kurokami",
"kurokami",
"faunaAlt1",
"calliAlt1",
"kiaraAlt1",
"kiaraAlt1",
"mumeiAlt1",
"inaAlt1",
"kiaraAlt1",
"guraAlt1",
"ameAlt1",
"mumeiAlt1",
"faunaAlt1",
"mumeiAlt1",
"baeAlt1",
"sanaAlt1",
"mumeiAlt1",
"irysAlt1",
"sanaAlt1",
"kurokami",
"kroniiAlt1"
],

>>33293334
You can also waste 8 tears buying outfits you already have instead of ranking up the base character directly.

>>33293435
Yeah, unfortunately you don't always account for the end user to purposely be retarded

>>33293557
I had everything unlocked and tried it just to see, because that's something I would have thought to test. Kay clearly isn't a coder, but he also just tends to dump out debug builds without testing them. We've had two builds (supers and anvils) that clearly were not even sanity tested once after packaging them up.

>>33293557
You're clearly doesn't know software development.
Users are retarded and it's the programmers' task to keep them doing retarded stuff.
You can't tell them "don't do this", you have to make sure they can't do this.

>>33293625
Ok fella, and neither are you, "real" software development would have every piece of the code go through multiple people, QA, and whatever else to be sure those things don't happen.
Which is obviously retarded to expect from a fan project mostly done by one man.
Not that anon to be clear.

>>33293917
As if every company has the same high standard in their development cycle.
Many companies, especially those who build their own software to use privately, don't even do unit testing, some even let the users do testing.

>>33293178
Do you have a controller plugged in? I thought something was wrong until I remembered I had my fightstick plugged in.

Please include the holocure.fandom.com link in the next OP post.

is the dev gonna fix the anvil abuse?

>>33290888
Idol outfit is a wasted slot. A Piman can perma ult just fine.