/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33168796
What a bizarre thing to be upset over

>>33168796
No. My oshii is Vesper who reads all the same anime and manga I do, and is too old to have sex with whores.

>>33168796
No

>>33168796
It is weird they get into such a niche subculture while having no exposure to it prior. Some outright dislike anime/manga as a whole.

I find it weirder that you losers enable the behavior.

>>33168953
bro, unless he's like 50, he's not old to have sex, and even after that he can get hookers, my grandpa used to get his dick wet in his 60s-70s
also, he's a bit of an eceleb now, getting pussy shouldn't be too hard unless he looks like an ugly bastard

>>33168796
They copy it without understanding a fucking thing about it, it is quite literally cultural appropriation and sheerly for ethot monetization at that. It's not like vtubing is some great noble pursuit, but the least western girls can fucking do is not actively shit all over the model they're allegedly inspired by and trying to rip off for profit.

>>33169341
lonely virgins do, what lonely virgins do
they simp

>>33168796
>>33168796
Yeah, it is really weird, especially the western indies that are total EOPs. They even get the kanji of the JP name and everything.

Any of the EN had a decent list of favourite anime posted in their debut? The ones I've seen are about as normie as it gets.

>>33168796
Are the grifters really that bad? I don't bother looking up all these whores on twitch.
The over-the-top cringe names are a thing with real weebs too. That's been going on for 20 years now l0l

>>33170009
Do you realize that the management fills out most of that info just to make Vtubers more appealing to Otakus that are supposed to fawn over them?

>>33170009
I remember ina put SAO on hers

>>33168796
Such as, Gawr Gura

>>33168796
Good, who watches Anime in 2022

>>33170130
Altares had SAO on it, I think his whole list was cursed as fuck.

>>33170009
I respect IRyS for being a boomer, but goddamn, Gundam SEED is fucking terrible. Watch 00 please... Amazing OPs & EDs too, she'd love them.

>>33170025
On twitch you'll find the whole gamut of otakuness, from complete normalfag ethots to autists with powerlevel higher that 99% of this board.

>>33170334
>00
>not the OGs
Get a load of this fag.

>>33169341
Actually quite a lot of us look down on it, the problem is the natural defense of ethots and their orbiters is to call all opposition to such shameless grifting raging incels to deflect from any questioning of how much they care about this whole thing or not.

On most of the vtuber internet, you can't talk back, can't question it and that only enables the whole scene to get worse when there's no quality control and the content creators actively band up to try and cancel anything that would actually make them do even a bit of work or put in a bit of effort (such as understanding otaku culture, maintaining being a character separate from the actual person etc).

>>33170334
She would have been like 11-14ish when it came out i think? Athren or Kira may have been one of her first crushes.

>>33170461
>crushing on Kira
Absolutely disgusting

>>33170334
>seed
at least my oshi is unabashedly a casual weeb and dont need to pretend, or on the other hand, have taste so bad you'd be laughed out of old /a/
no i dont think shes even a weeb, she just like cute things and cute girls mostly (like hatsune miku)

>>33169501
> he lacks critical information

>>33170334
>>33170461
Women who mostly liked it because Kira is a bishie are like a full half+ of SEED's success to begin with, I don't really find it surprising Irys liked it.

I also can't see her really getting into something like say War in the Pocket, she just doesn't take anything seriously enough for it, same with Mori as a general impression. While I could see maybe some of the other ENs might get into it and tear up at the end.

>>33170009
Vesper is legit enough to be a Hajime no Ippo fan. A really underappreciated series, but just about everyone who comes across it & gives it a try loves it.
Unfortunately Vesper also enjoys trash like Hunter x Hunter. A pitiful attempt at a shonen that deserved to fail and be forgotten. Togashi better be at Studio Madhouse sucking everyone's dick everyday for saving his pathetic manga.

>>33170565
>she just doesn't take anything seriously enough
She takes her ships seriously.

>>33170542
goomba seems to just like cartoons/cartoony stuff over all and truly is home in didney worl as that one MC tour stream very-tellingly displayed, but yeah she isn't particularly attached to anime but does at least appreciate some parts of it in the kind of casual ironic memer/shitposter kind of way.

How fucking strange it is, that someone of this description, who would sound fucking repulsive and irritating if I didn't know how she is, is actually the most chill/understanding one as you don't really sense malice about it, she's just ignorant but also honest and not trying to bullshit you too much about it.

>>33170009
Vesper and Sana's

>>33170552
How old is he, actually?

>>33170658
>in the kind of casual ironic memer/shitposter kind of way.
I don't think an ironic memer/shitposter would be based enough to like Tatsuro Yamashita, she probably just likes Japanese culture in general but not particularly deep into anime.

>>33170783
His past life was grumpy jiisan

>>33170871
doesn't sound like him at all, and he looked about 60 11 years ago

>>33170130
SAO is great.
As long as you realize that everything wrong with it was caused by Asuna and that she is the true mary sue self insert who single handedly derails the story with her very presence because its supposed to be about her and nothing else. And that Kirito is a character who only exists to be a bystander to everything that is remotely interesting.
Progressive is supposed to be a soft reboot to the series, yet its pure trash thanks to Asuna wank.

>>33168796
New age weebs are fucking cringe
Japanese culture became mainstream and somehow you still manage to be the outcasts kek

I cringe more at how bad they are at games while playing a role that implies playing a lot of games and consistently talking about them. Good example was Gura playing DMC5. When Dante shows up she hyperventilates over hime but she doesn't know what's going on and sucks shit at the game, so clearly she has no real experience with DMC. Her prior participation that she is pulling from to have a reaction is the memetics component. She knows who Dante is because of other people and is aware that he is the le wacky cool guy with red coat but that's the end of it. Instead of thinking for herself she's part of a reddit-tier feedback loop. At least she played a couple of the games at this point but I have no idea how anyone with any familiarity with them could tolerate watching the streams. It's like those people who say watching a playthrough is the same as playing a game but even more pathetic.

>>33171759
If you want people who play games then go watch 1-2 views on twitch or pro gamers on twitch if you want to see skilled play.

>>33170009
Kiara said she liked Monogatari and Toaru which is cool, but for the former I'm sure it's only because of the cute girls and for the latter I'm sure she's a clueless anime-only.

>>33168904
Not really. Hating ironic weebs is VERY common on 4chan, newfriend.

>>33170871
I doubt that. There's no way he's still alive.

>>33171759
You try being entertaining and also good at a game. Just trying to talk makes you like half as good at anything, but trying to be /funny/ and clippable? It's why the good ones shut the fuck up when they play, and also why they're 1-2 views on twitch

>>33172180
There's a difference between sacrificing ability to talk more and being completely fucking clueless, which is what a majority of Holos are.

>>33168796
Gura is clearly a casual but she respects the culture

>>33172180
My favorite 1 view on twitch always does commentary on what is going on in the game that he plays.

>>33170009

>>33172596
>IRyS
>Sidonia
unexpected

>>33169341
“Vote with your wallet” is quite literally impossible in the modern era. For every one person who sticks to their principles, whatever they may be, there are ten complete fucking idiots who practically direct deposit their paycheck into someone else’s savings account.

>>33168796
>watched anime
who cares about anime

>>33172596
They really are basic bitches. All shit taste.

>>33172596
I like how people are shitting on IRyS for liking Seed, when she was fucking 13-14 or something kek. She is a dummy even now, let alone in her early teens. Cant expect from her to be some kind of a anime critic and realizing why Seed is bad and cheesy.

>>33172596
Mori has the biggest normalfag taste. The rest are honestly fine and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

>>33172798
Bae is worse.

>>33172771
Basic bitches don't watch half the the stuff in those lists. Go filter MAL by top 100 or something for the kind of stuff ironic animefags watch.

>>33172596
Ame is almost based. Pic related is my favorite movie.

>>33172798
Almost all of them are incredibly obvious mid 2010s-now English streaming shill pics. I'm surprised they let Sana list Great Pretender and others pick Devilman since Netflix owns them.

>>33172701
There are still good ones out there. Btw posting "who care about anime" on a board about Vtubers is hilarious. They are like, at least 5 tiers below anime in entertainment value (watch 5 hours of streams to get 15 minutes of quality content).

>>33172876
Agreed, Ame's list is actually quite decent. The only real disappointment is JJK.

>>33172951
and? go seethe somewhere /a/ bros

And most of these western fubers get to collab with the real comoanies like hololive and nijisanji

>>33172596
Mori's taste is great wtf is /vt/ on about?

>>33172991
/a/ bros are the majority here.

>>33172789
Seed's plot is pretty shit, the animation recycling is also pretty shit, yet its still my favourite gundam series purely because it's my childhood memory. I just love using the MS from Seed everytime I play SRW and Versus.
Its ok the like different things and for whatever reason. And its ok to shit on other people for whatever reason too I guess

>>33170009
Ike Eveland, Sonny Brisko

>>33173045
>jojo
>dr stone
>one piss
>higurashit
>baki

>great

>>33168796
Who are you talking about?

>>33170359
00 is one of the best Gundam series to date, and has exceptionally aesthetic designs. Of course I don't expect you old fucks to know about anything that doesn't involve Zeon.

>>33173261
No Zeon, no buy, simple as.

>>33168796
Western counterpart to kirakira names like "Lion King Blizzard." They adopt silly English names, our whores adopt silly Japanese names. Unironically a WE ARE moment.

>>33172596
Babbies first animays - The List

>>33173307
>Lion King Blizzard
Sounds like the name of a Kamen Rider form.

>>33172596
>actually liking violet evergarden
>let alone putting it in a top 10 list
But why. It was unremarkable at best.

>>33173261
Can't wait for the Age zoomers to replace you 00 fags next.

>>33173348
I don't think Bokurano is that popular anymore.

Gura knows nothing about anime or manga, or japan. Literally just an e-whore farming simps

>>33172596
None of them have Code Geass on their list. Absolutely shit taste, state of EN.

>>33173368
>implying anyone liked Age

>>33173386
This. But chumkeks will tell you it's because she had "too many loli anime on hers" or some lie like that.

>>33173193
Yeah it's not lolicon hentai that you usually watch, maybe try watching those shows and see that those anime deserve the praise they deserve.

>>33173520
>But chumkeks will tell you it's because she had "too many loli anime on hers" or some lie like that.
Try researching her and see what anime related contents she did in the past. You'd find gochiusa

>>33173430
>They have shit taste, because Code Geass is not on there
Actually it is good that Code Geass is not on because it is mediocre

If I debuted as a male chuuba and listed Gall Force as one of my favorite childhood anime, would that be considered based or cheesy?
I'd also slide in Excel Saga and Puni Puni Poemy in there.

>>33173520
That taste just screams Reddit

>>33173430
Based
>>33173675
Cringe

>>33172596
>shit taste this
>shit taste that
People seem to be forgetting that they are women

>>33173386
Her thing is vocaloid and rhythm games.

>>33173580
The absolute irony of not knowing that the creator of Higurashi is a lolicon

>>33172596
Why do women hate isekai?

>>33173904
If Ryukishi is a lolicon then why did he create Maria?

>>33173998
Fuck isekai, when will we go back to urban fantasy?

>>33174043
>urban fantasy
More like battle harem.

>>33173680
I would slide in Excel Saga too, but probably not Puni Puni Poemy due to it being a spin-off, so I will save the spot for something else since I only have 10

>>33173193
honestly just kys at this point

>>33173998
Everyone should hate Isekai

>>33173193
Based

>>33173998
Familiar of Zero is an Isekai though...

>>33174155
Digimon Adventure is kino.

>>33170783
He's like 38-40, and refining his wizard powers.

>>33174377
not that old, he talks about it like he's 50 or some shit

>>33173998
Because almost all of them are teenage boy power fantasies. Why would a woman like them?

>>33170783
There's a roommate clip from about a year ago where he was 35, so 36/37 is the best current estimate

>>33172596
Mori's is a basic /a/ 3x3

>>33172596
A similar chart, but for videogames
It's gonna be nothing but MC, RUST and MK8

>>33174191
Isekai AND magic academy. And before both got popular. Man was visionary.

>>33175413
Someone will guarantee have
Genshit Impact

>>33174469
In Anime terms he's a literal grandpa, destined to die within a few years

>>33175493
100% Ina (unfortunately)

>>33174669
That's shounen and harem anime too though.

>>33170616
Vesper is actually extremely entry level, he's just old enough that some of it is vintage now. Hajime no Ippo was so entry that my friends who don't watch anime might have been fans. It's like how most under 20 haven't seen Dragonball.

>>33172033
Very common on the weeb boards you mean

>>33175608

>>33174155
>Everyone should hate some of the best masterpieces made in anime history
faggot

>>33172596
Isn't this from Crunchyroll? So are they compelled to list only Crunchyroll animes?

>>33176861
Nope, they weren't limited to titles available on Crunchyroll. I even did a quick test to see if any of them didn't show up in a search on there and came across some right away.

>>33174155
Isekai is not modern isekai

>>33174244
>>33177231
Isekai wasn't a "genre" before modern Isekai. Even though there are other shows that technically fall under the definition, it's strange to include them when people talk about Isekai.

>>33176127
>

>>33172991
and you're coping anon; there is a reason why clipping channels exist

>>33177231
Nobody is talking about Orguss and Magic Knight Rayearth when they're complaining about isekai doofus. You know very well they're using the term colloquially and referring to I Can't Believe My Shitty Web Novel About My Self-insert MC Fucking His Slave Harem Got Published by Dengeki and Now There's an Anime Adaptation!!!!

>>33178490
>referring to I Can't Believe My Shitty Web Novel About My Self-insert MC Fucking His Slave Harem Got Published by Dengeki and Now There's an Anime Adaptation!!!!
NTA, but that's more like the LN meta instead of Isekai meta.

>>33175620
then 2 of them will guarantee have
Genshit Impact

>>33178530
i think the Extremely-Long-And-Retardedly-Specific-Lightnovel-Title meta is not the isekai meta, they just emerged around the same time period.

>>33178915
Thank you for agreeing with me.

>>33168796
I used to, a bit, and then I realized people still like Gura. So I stopped giving a shit.

>>33178530
>>33178915
The isekai "genre" really refers to the group of series that were clearly inspired by the popularity of Sword Art Online. Which are mostly light novels, but only some of them have absurd long names.

>>33179007
no problem anon who is actually not me samefagging

>>33179441
>The isekai "genre" really refers to the group of series that were clearly inspired by the popularity of Sword Art Online
No, the isekai meta started way before the rise of SAO's popularity. People just spammed it on Syosetu brainlessly because its easy to write and for self-insertion, most of the shit isekais you see in LN are actually already filtered out from the worst pile of shits in there.
>>33179763
No problem, me myself.

>>33179897
Isn’t writing a shitty isekai web novel their equivalent of writing cringe mlp fan fiction?

>>33179441
>Says complete bullshit
STFU EOP you know nothing

>>33179897
I guess it's just my assumption as someone who just reads manga and watches anime. But I only noticed isekai series flooding the market shortly after the popularity of Sword Art Online. And they all seem to use a lot of the same tropes SAO used. But maybe that's just because SAO was the first one to break into the mainstream.

>>33180093
Yeah, yeah. I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot by not reading the superior nihongo version of all the shitty web novels.

>>33180093
cringe weeb

>>33168796
I honestly cringe when Any Western vtuber has a Japanese name. LIke just call yourself Casey Owens and stop appropriating Japanese names when you have nothing to do with Japan.

>>33170616
Unironically kys HxH is one of the best manga of all time, you raging faggot. get better tastes

>>33173580
Nigger most of those are overrated trash on the same if not, worse than Narutard. Just add DBZ and you'll complete the anime tourist babby's first animes.

>>33172596
So does goomba not like anime or something?

>>33181118
I can understand it is debatable. But it's a fact that it is not trash.

>>33180718
What about Japanese vtubers that have non-Japanese names?

>>33180261
It helped start a trend of licensing web novels to have the author write a LN version, which would then get an anime to promote the LN. 1990s and 2010s LNs were much more focused on shonen fans and older males (A Certain Magical Index, Zero no Tsukaima, Shana, Boogiepop, etc.). Unfortunately most web novels are really, really, REALLY derivative even by jap standards. The isekai part of them usually happens because the author is shit at worldbuilding. Having an unfamiliar world means they can asspull whatever they want, and the gamelit variety of them lets the author make anything happen for the thinnest, laziest of reasons (as someone who has dabbled in writing web novels over the years I can say it's a lot easier to say that the protag moved faster than the enemy could see because their speed stat was higher than it is to come up with a lore heavy reason for the same outcome).
Ultimately calling most modern isekai shows "Isekai" is almost a misnomer. They take place in other worlds but almost none of them have events which are informed by this predicament (think how Wizard of Oz is very focused on Dorothy adapting to and trying to leave Oz). Instead the other world is merely a vehicle so the author can serve up shit contrivance after shit contrivance.

>>33168904
Yeah, pretty much this.

>>33181368
Gura hasn't watched ten anime in order to complete the list

>>33168796
the JP ones don't watch anime either OP

>>33183259
Okay, I guess that makes sense to me. Although, I want to give the authors the benefit of the doubt and believe that it didn't catch on just because they were lazy writers. I think the escapist fantasy was appealing to (Which would be fine if it was done well).
I kind of miss the days when most light novel adaptations were more like Haruhi.

>>33185815
Dunno if upset is the right word but it does look weird. Kinda like a nigger named Wilhelm von Weiß or something.

>>33186631
Me too brother. 2000s were a golden age for LNs. Index and Monogatari are just about the last holdouts from that era, and I'm not sure Monogatari is going to keep going after concluding it's "epilogue season" last August.

HoloEN?

>>33168796
>Anime in 2022
People who started watching Anime long ago should have already moved to to manga and LNs by now. Anime is way too slow.

>>33181368
>>33186117
her list was Shoujo Ramune and a bunch of other loli hentai so they took it down

>>33168796
>never read manga
kronii was stuck in the scanlation loop, but chat mostly didn't care. You're sharing a board with people that carry around jump in their school cafeterias.

You'll never be japanese

>>33189769
Normies don't delve too much into the manga, collectionism, and to have more dedication to watch anime than hardliners, though.

>>33189769
You know you don't have to watch seasonals, right? You'll never run out of good anime to watch, you just gotta filter out the generic filth. Also I watch anime, read manga, read LNs/VNs etc. They're not mutually exclusive retard

>>33168796
You mean like this thing?

>>33168796
This is like complaining that the stripper won't marry you. Why would you be watching whore shows and pretending they're not whores lmfao? Just jerk off and pay and cry yourself to sleep.

>>33172676
And for each of those 10, there are typically another two or three who will say they hate X, but will still use or give money to X because they can't actually stick to their principles, or don't want to be left out of their social circle. Shit sucks. This is also why dicksword is so large.

>>33190841
Me and Kiseki games holy fuck.

>>33175641
Where do you think you are?

>>33191261
A weeb/streamer hybrid board silly
People didn't come solely from /jp/ even when the board was first made

>>33168796
Yeah but you learn to live with that

>>33170334
You fell for her blunder my man she doesn't like anime

>>33173348
>>33172771
Let's see your lists then, lads. No curating. Inb4 you put down LOTGH or some other /a/ 3x3 poser title for brownie points.

>>33172596
Gura is based
IRyS is cringe

>>33177231
>>33177859
The Chronicles of Narnia was the first isekai that wasn't some ancient religious text.

>>33168796
>If theres one thing that I respect Vshojo girls for
What the frick!?
Never thought I'd see a chumbud type that

>>33186117
I haven't watched any of the animes from this season call me normie now

my god, imagine someone having other interests outside a very niche interest.
that would be so fucking weird. they might have, like, different discussion topics and references and shit. fucking disgusting.

>>33188904
More like Twitch thots that hate anime (except IRyS she's a vtweeter)

>>33191688
>animes
You clearly are one.

>>33168796
After I got into vtubers in late 2020 I haven't watched a single full anime nor read a single chapter of a manga, I'm totally out of touch with current weeb culture so I dgaf.
I don't think I'm the only one.

>>33173358
t. unfeeling psychopath and/or normie who never had any problems fitting in

>>33192235
>normie who never had any problems fitting in
so a based person
dumb shonen protagfag

>>33181118
>>33181483
Hunter hunter is MOSTLY trash
I remember being incredible upset that i was wasting my time watching it for the first few arcs.
Gon and the tall dude are insufferable characters and kurapica is mary sue as fuck.
The Chimera ant arc has some really good stuff in it but even that is 40% shit no one cares about.

At its best, its definitely way above average
But its only at its best for like 30% of the series, the rest of the time its generic garbage

>>33192412
I don't get it, how does one end up with such shit taste? post your favourites right now fag

>>33192558
nta but that's a pretty common take

>>33192558
Also I hope that doesn't mean you like fucking Borderlands

>>33192646
Yes, a common incorrect take. Literally normie tier comprehension if that's what you got out of hxh
>>33192692
I just had this pic on hand, don't insult me.

>>33192139
I'll give you the rundown
>Netflix bungled JoJo
>Spy x Family Good
>Lycoris Recoil not total shit
>ANOTHER fucking Attack on Titan season
>women crying over Hero Academia spoilers
>men crying over One Piss spoilers
>Chainsawman pseudposting galore even though people only know about due to jacking off to pics of Makima on booru.

>>33168796
infinitely anon infinitely

>>33187009
Not a great analogy only because we are talking about fictional anime streamers. Being upset over the use of weeb names implies that said fictional character's actor behind the scenes was a well-known whore. Most of them are not and most people don't care beyond that. Like reading a book the names don't really matter in context to the creator so you are left with just the character. Stop being schizos.

Not really the most disgusting western thots also happen to be asian american.

>>33172596
>Mori has better taste than 90% of /vt/
it's over

>>33194822
90% of /vt/ doesn't watch anime

>>33171759
She straight up said during her DMC5 playthrough that it was her literal first exposure to the series, that's not something she tried to hide, of course she wasn't going to know jack shit about anything regarding the series outside the memes. Gura is very transparent about the fact that she isn't much of a gamer outside of rhythm games. I will say she does have a very secretive competitive nature, and will literally grind for days off-stream to train like fucking Goku for major holo events like the Mario Kart tourney. She can definitely git gud, it's just convincing her to wanna git gud that's the struggle.

>>33168796
It reminds me how I would see weebs online on forums or MMOs with made up Japanese names to be extra weeb, shit that doesn't make sense and it was so often that I could have compiled at least a thousand unique original made up Japanese names

>>33168796
remember when kardashian on whoever the whore is tried to name her clothing brand "kimono"? It's basically that, they think it's chic to use jap culture despite knowing nothing of it

>>33173348
Clannad is great tho
though to be fair, im more of a fan of the VN than the anime

>>33192235
>t. antiantartica faggot
but of fucking course

>>33198287
I couldn't stand the girls from that VN. Did 3 routes that I absolutely hated, then kept going blind. Ended up doing the sunohara siblings route then misae, enjoyed both of them and dropped the game since I knew I wouldn't enjoy the other routes.

>>33192788
Shounen shitters have no right to lecture anyone about good taste if they have not read or watched at least 10 seinen works.

>>33198287
I got filtered by that ghost retard who makes the wooden stars or whatever. It was 10 years ago, I don't remember.

>>33173348
>NGE and Bokurano on the baby list
Let's see yours then, anon.

>>33168796
It's called leeching, anon. They'll go indie or worse to Niji or VShojo soon. Ame will reinvent herself as this unicorn slaying queen but in reality she'll just delete waves of negative comments and just fade into obscurity. She deserves worse desu

>>33200104
>>33200316
i get that, ive played a few VNs where i didnt like any of the girls, only liked one, or one that everybody seemed to like was insufferable to me.
i enjoyed it less for the girls and more for the life can hit you hard, but its the little moments of happiness and humor you hold onto that count, angle of it.
though it always makes me laugh that everyone always seems to say worst girl was the canon one, as i didnt mind nagisa too much. though kotori was my favorite cause for some reason i like autists.
regardless, play the VNs you guys find enjoyable, for shorter ones more focused on the dating sim and humor aspect with well written characters but are much shorter than clannad, i like smee's games like fureraba and making lovers.

>>33172180
Flakes rocket league
I got nothing else to say

>>33172596
>We know she likes Ryuo no Oshigoto
>We know she likes NekoPara's cunny maid outfit figures
What's the bet that Crunchless Fatrolls wouldn't let Gura release a pure cunny list since they're a bunch of faggots?