/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33162730
Good

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Good

>>33162730
Good

Good.

>>33162730
Good

>>33162730
Good

Good.

At what point will retarded-ass Niji management realize this collab ban hurts their own talents more than Hololive?

I can understand why they can't stream it, but that's nice that they're at least allowed to publicly acknowledge that they're on good terms with each other. It only makes sense that these two companies wouldn't stream with each other in the English-speaking market.

>>33162730
Good

>>33162730
Good

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>>33162825
Stfu sgut the fuck up tribalfaggots,Pomu will collab with kiara! Unitychads we stays winning!

>>33162819
Honestly, I'm not sure they're too much worse off by denying these collabs. The two companies have such different approaches to English-speaking vtubers that the walled garden approach is unfortunately the right move for them to make, at least at this point in time.

>>33162730
Good

>>33162820
>in the english speaking market
but it's okay for JP because...

>>33162730
I can already tell you how that off collab
>b-btw Ollie have you met Gura yet?
>what's Gura like in person?
>is Gura as cute offline as she is on stream
>hey is there anyway you can set up a fun get together like this again? B-But can you invite Gura too? H-Haha...

>>33162819
Given that Kiara had to get special permission from her manager to mention Enna and Millie on stream, I think the ban is the other way lol

>>33162819
Later when they got cucked by chinks

>>33162730
Good

>>33162860
They're buddies, but the reality is that Pomu works for Pepsi and Kiara for Coke, so naturally they won't be appearing in the same advertisements together.

>>33162730

>>33162820
>that they're on good terms with each other
based on the replies here, i don't think that's true

>>33162730
holo id colabs with the niji branches on stream tho, risu and mika for example had multiple for example
ollie too

>>33162876
I think it's because Cover and Nijisaniji are indisputably the largest Japanese presences in the western vtuber market. There's just more competition for the two of them in Japan, or at least there was, so they can afford to collab more over there. The English-speaking market is just more competitive of an environment for these two companies. I doubt there are even any real hard feelings between them over here; it's just business.

>>33162882
proof?

>>33162730
pretty sure they played together with main branch and id branch nijis in the past, only niji en is the on that seems banned

>>33162730
pomudachis not like this..

>>33162865
Different how?
>both have male and female talents
>both play largely the same games
>both have collabed with a known racist
They’re basically the same quality-wise at this point. I don’t get how a collab between them could go wrong, at least not anymore than the average Vshoujo collab

>>33162935
The talents are on good terms with each other. Based on the replies here, Mori tied Gura down during a house party and had ten burly, drug-addled men throatfuck her a couple months ago. Come on man.

>>33162730
Trust in the plan.

>>33162882
Source: The voices in my head

>>33162981
A collab wouldn't go wrong, but the two companies are competing for more or less the same audience in the Anglosphere and have been since their respective branches' inceptions. That's the only reason they don't collab. Pretty cut and dry.

>>33162964
https://youtu.be/YBbYqj7mTnM?t=141

>>33162992
I unironically do. I will protect all four of these lions.

>>33162730
so ollie will leech nijien boys this time
literally become Mika of Holo ID

>>33162880
That shit will never not be funny to me

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hd0rZHNHUqQ

>>33162730
>tribalniggers seething on sight in every interaction they see on twitter
>ended up playing games with themselves off stream
congratulations faggots we won't see these kind of interaction with them ever

>>33162730
As God intended.

>>33163071
Why are you mad at them? It's clearly the fault of autistic management. Both sides want collabs.

>>33162992
I’d slam my hands together in this scenario.

>>33163071
>And that’s a good thing

>>33163113
>Both sides want collabs.
Source: The voices in my head

>>33162730
>Hololive fans getting cucked on and off stream
this is all Tempus's fault

>>33163113
Honestly I'd rather not have NijiEN collab with HoloEN especially the girls. The fans of the HoloEN girls are nuts.

>>33163267
bruh

>>33162819
We still don't know who is actually stopping collabs from happening.
Yes, I realize Pomu has done incredible damage to her EN branch's perception and now everyone believes it is all on the Niji side, but we have no real confirmation of it.

>>33162730
This red monkey again

>>33162730
Damn, greedy holo management still haven't lifted collab ban?

>>33163625
Cope

>>33163479
Pomu? She didn't even say anything odd really. "Feels like an all out war lol" or something like that? It's hardly weird to acknowledge that the two biggest companies in an industry are competing. The one that said stuff that actually got peoples backs up was fulgur I think with him saying council didn't perform as well as expected.

>>33163645
Delusional seething holokek...

>>33163678
Your seethe in the future will be delightful. Or denial, whichever.

>>33162992
>they were hired to collab with NijiEN

I've heard some pretty wild rrats in my time but what the hell

>>33163071
thats fine, I just don't want to see them on stream together

>>33163709
>in the future
2 more weeks...
In the meantime, the only one seething is you, pathetic holol

>>33163071
And that's a good thing. Fuck Nijiniggers

Chinks got NijiEN by the balls so much that one whiff of Holo on their stream means goodbye fanbase.

>>33163064
Right, Gura?

>>33163787
unironically this

>>33163787
I swear to god holofags just keep repeating what they want to think regardless of facts. Dare you to watch this stream and then try and say NijiEN won't talk about Hololive.
https://youtu.be/WlEbI_NDyKg

>>33163787
Then just ban Vox and let the others collab. He doesn’t seem to care about Holos that much anyways.

>>33163769
More like, laughing at NijiEN's fear of HoloEN.

>>33163872
And Nijis keep trying to deflect what is actually true. Maybe stop sucking small chink dicks once in a while and look around you.

I get the YouTube rivalry bullshit but surely anycolor could open a bit they allow vshojo off all people

>>33163872
Holokeks always live in their fantasy world, completely disconnected from reality.
They take Niji's reddit removing a post containing holo merch as a "proof" of "Niji blocking collabs" (which is a right decision, as poster has no right of advertising other company merch) and completely ignore Holo reddit blocking a post mentioning Niji.

>>33163050
nah she just wants some dick, she's trying to collab with every single male vtuber in the business that has clout

>>33163909
Ah, I've been laughing at HoloEN's fear of NijiEN for a while now, since their pathetic attempts to sabotage Niji events.

>>33163987
>>33163924

not enough cocks in hololive for ollie. time for some new cock from nijisanji

>>33162819
Somehow, I feel that if they allowed the collabs, you'd call them leeches.

I'm still mad we never got that Selen Ollie stream

>>33163924
You can literally watch the stream and see and hear Holo hundreds of times.

>>33164177
>I-it's true b-because I said so
Holy kek, holofaggots are so fucking dumb

>>33163872
And we know Hologirls can talk about NijiEN on stream so where does that leave us? It just means none of this is proof of anything.

>>33164347
>>I-it's true b-because I said so
Holy kek, Nijifaggots are so fucking dumb

>>33162935
Anon for your own sake don't take the things said on this board at face value. Most of the time it's either a gross exaggeration or just wrong.

Genuinely, what's stopping the talents from just telling people what's going on? They can't fire them all.

>>33162882
If this is true. How is it a cover problem that Kiara needs permission to name a character that isn't owned by cover?

>>33163028
There's nothing about permissions here though?

>>33162730
>i'm cucking my fans even off stream now.

Prelude : Most holofans assumed that the collab ban was from HoloEN side for a long time, because Myth was quite isolationist during their first year.
But once Myth started doing vshojo, indie and 3DPD collabs(TT), people slowly started to notice that they were avoiding NijiEN, despite a lot of the talents (Pomu and Kiara especially) being on good terms.

1. Ollie collabs with Gundou from NijiJP on 28th July 2021 (https://youtu.be/Ghzt6N1WB14).). This was around 2 months after NijiEN debuted.
2. One day before this collab, Pomu and Kiara have their first of many on-stream (chat only) interactions (https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6497).).
3. 3 months later - on October 25, 2021 - Kiara reports that her collab request for Pomu has been rejected (https://youtu.be/eMQF7VPADI8).).
She did not specify who did the rejecting. Considering that she had been quite candid about shitting on HoloEN management at the time, but avoided blaming any party in this instance, it indicated that the block may not have been from HoloEN management. But since there was no confirmation and Myth had precedence in isolationism, most casual fans simply assumed that the block was from HoloEN.
4. On Nov 23, Selen reveals on stream that she finally was allowed to collab with "the zombie" soon, which most people naturally assumed to be Ollie (https://youtu.be/K9Z6N3p-5XU?t=20813, https://youtu.be/qH_lYfNNw78).).
5. 3 days later, on Nov 26, Selen announces that the collab was cancelled (https://youtu.be/tfIGSTTuauI?t=26323).). Summary : "In the end, it had to be cancelled. Both of us were looking forward to it. I can't say too much about it, we both tried their best to make it happen. But the decision was out of both me and my collab partner's hands."
> In both of these instances, Selen did not namedrop Ollie even once.
6. The very next day (Nov 27), Overidea + Bilibili announce a VTuber singing festival that includes Lazulight as guests (https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/r3koxh/half_of_2434_international_will_be_attending_sing/, https://twitter.com/OverideaHQ/status/1464532414512828421).).
> Speculation is that Selen's manager got permission from Cover's side for the collab and so Selen thought it was fine to announce it on stream (since once Cover's side was clear, obviously she assumed NijiEN would be fine with it). But the Lazulight Bilibili announcement may have caused NijiEN higher ups to veto it so that Lazulight could still attend the event.
7. Event itself happens 1 day later (Nov 28), streamed on both Youtube and Bilibili. Lazulight timestamp : https://youtu.be/Md2HAlsr3_Y?t=12947.. Side note : 3 chuubas (including Hana) from NijiID also participated in this.
8. December-January : Luxiem debuts and gains a humongous audience from China, inclining the entire branch and becoming the most successful NijiEN wave to date.
> Pomu - Kiara interactions - both on-stream(YT chat) and off-stream(twitter) - are still happening in the middle of all this.
9. March 5, 2022 : NijiEN discord leak. Irreparable damage to NijiEN perception in the eyes of hololive fans - specifically Fulgur. Damage is far more to NijiEN fans' reputations thanks to their reaction, but the livers' behavior was also frowned upon since they were outwardly friendly towards Holo. Pomu didn't have any major involvement, so her reputation is still relatively clear.
10. May 1, 2022 : Luxiem officially get Bilibili channels (https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1520712132718964736).).
11. July 13, 2022 : Pomu Birthday stream, when starting to read pre-recorded messages, reveals that there was "one more" but asks her fans to pretend that she read it on stream. Highly likely that this was Kiara's birthday message, but Pomu explicitly avoids confirming it despite freely being able to namedrop Kiara in prior streams (https://youtu.be/zkAecWb_yTs?t=10401).).
12. July 21, 2022 : Kiara SC reading stream, SC references Pomu collab. Kiara reveals that she had been hopeful for a while, but looking at "recent developments", it felt like it was never gonna happen (https://youtu.be/qEPw2vxjTaw?t=15873).).
13. Aug 06, 2022 : Pomu sends the contents of her bag for Kiara's bag reveal stream (https://youtu.be/wtRj5RGlMHA?t=6371).). Indicating that Hololive management has no problem with Kiara involving Pomu in her streams.
14. Pic related is the latest clue we have, where the post discussing the aforementioned incident was deleted from the Nijisanji subreddit with no explanation, but was not deleted from the Hololive subreddit, which explicitly has a Rule against "advertising VTubers outside of Hololive". Even the Hololive mods commented on that post, telling people to chill, but did not lock the thread, delete the post or otherwise prevent discussion.
15. Sep 08, 2022 : when Selen was talking about Zeta, she accidentally slips out that they are not allowed to even talk about holos; and then she quickly tries to retcon it as they are just "discouraged" to do so

>>33163028
Uh oh holobros, black company bans mentions and gotta tip toe around fucking names. Kiara is based not to care. Why don’t En3 just debute robots? Obedient and soulless

>he doesn't know the NijiEN ban is because the branch manager is from /here/

>>33165493
I thought it was because the branch manager is from India.

>>33165310
>Ollie collabs with Gundou from NijiJP
Basically all niji branches (except for en) collabed with all holo branches (except for en) and vice versa. That means your first point doesn't prove anything
>Kiara reports that her collab request for Pomu has been rejected
Of course didn't say who rejected it, doesn't prove anything
>Selen reveals on stream that she finally was allowed to collab with "the zombie"
Only proves that Niji allows those collaps
>Selen announces that the collab was cancelled
Didn't say it was from Niji side, so considering previous point, it's more likely was due to holo decision
> Speculation is that Selen's manager got permission from Cover's side for the collab and so Selen thought it was fine to announce it on stream (since once Cover's side was clear, obviously she assumed NijiEN would be fine with it). But the Lazulight Bilibili announcement may have caused NijiEN higher ups to veto it so that Lazulight could still attend the event.
A fucking speculation that stupidly assumes that they didn't plan the event beforehand and knew it only after it's official announcement
>Event itself happens 1 day later
Which supports the point that Niji knew about this event beforehand, making this speculation even more bullshit
>but the livers' behavior was also frowned upon since they were outwardly friendly towards Holo
Yeah, so much frowned upon that nobody even said a thing beside a bunch of /vt/ faggots
>Highly likely that this was Kiara's birthday message
No evidence that it was indeed her and no evidence that the it wasn't holo that protested against showing the message publicly
>but looking at "recent developments", it felt like it was never gonna happen
Once again, could mean anything, both from niji or holo side
>Hololive management has no problem with Kiara involving Pomu in her streams
Has no problem having a bag on stream. As seen before/after, both branches have no problems mentioning each other on stream
>aforementioned incident was deleted from the Nijisanji subreddit
You mention that Niji reddit removed a post from a stream with a bunch of holo merch (pretty much justified), but ignored that a few days before that Holo reddit removed a post simply mentioning Niji/Holo interaction (and the same post wasn't removed on Niji reddit)
>she accidentally slips out that they are not allowed to even talk about holos
absolutely blatant hololie. she mentioned how some fans react about interactions and didn't say a word about ban from management

>>33165310
>>33166084
Astel and Reimu also talked on Twitter after the last VSaikyou about collabing but mentioned that they need to talk with management first. Nothing ever come up after this so it's likely that they got rejected by management.

>>33162730
Alban is a homie tho
Id touck tips any day

>>33166084
Cope

>>33162876
Japan is a tiny island with like 45 inhabitants

>>33166255
Fuck off Fulgur

>>33163479
Break the chains. Vtubers be free from the yokes of their Imperial masters.

Vtubers of the world unite.

>>33164995
They probably wouldn't be fired but possibly sanctioned or simply made to feel uncomfortable by management (that's the Japanese way).
And it's only really Kiara from HoloEN's side that wants unity collabs, the others don't give a shit or actively do not want them.

>>33166272
I see, holokek started seething because after holocope was broken down piece by piece, it's became evident that it's most likely holo who are blocking collabs.

>>33165310
>Irreparable damage to NijiEN perception in the eyes of hololive fans - specifically Fulgur.
The fuck is this nonsense? You dramafags are a tiny minority. Nobody fucking cares in the slightest about this shit.

Fucking get out of your circlejerk once in a while, goddamn.

>It's hololive that's banning collabs!
Ok so why can holoJP and NijiJP collab?
>It's HoloEN that's banning it
Ok why can't HoloID and NijiEN collab
>SHUT UP FUCK OFF OMEGATRANNY!
Have fun with your collab fee faggots

>>33166711
>It's hololive that's banning collabs!
>Ok so why can holoJP and NijiJP collab?
I always find it funny how holokeks show examples of collabs where Holo leeching on Niji as a "proof" that it's not Holo blocking collabs. What a bunch of retards
>It's HoloEN that's banning it
>Ok why can't HoloID and NijiEN collab
>HoloEN
>HoloID
Do you have a 5-second memory? One moment you started to write about HoloEN, the other moment you switched to absolutely irrelevant topic of HoloID.
But the most likely one is this:
>It's hololive that's banning collabs!
They are banning collabs that are not profitable to Holo, like NijiEN-HoloEN or would ban any collab of top Holo (regardless of branch) with any Niji.

>>33162730
Ollie has become honorable Niji.
Who want to watch Niji 2.0? Holodeath truly bring doom to the brand

>>33162819
How does it hurt their talents?

>>33166962
>Do you have a 5-second memory? One moment you started to write about HoloEN, the other moment you switched to absolutely irrelevant topic of HoloID.
It is irrelevant to you since it proves that HoloEN management is not the one blocking collabs
>They are banning collabs that are not profitable to Holo
Yes I am sure that the NijiID-HoloID is profitable to Cover..
You are a fucking delusional Nijikek that will not admit that it is Nijisanji blocking collabs between NijiEN and any branch of Hololive

>>33166084
hi noor you bitch

>>33167295
>It is irrelevant to you since it proves that HoloEN management is not the one blocking collabs
And how does a thing that has nothing to do with HoloEN proves that it's not HoloEN blocking collabs?
>Yes I am sure that the NijiID-HoloID is profitable to Cover
Yeah, say that again once Kobo collabs with NijiID. In my post I said "top Holos", not some irrelevant shitters who are just a tiny bit less irrelevant than NijiID.
>You are a fucking delusional Nijikek
Says the one who can't provide even a single good evidence to support his claims
>Nijisanji blocking collabs between NijiEN and any branch of Hololive
Did you forget that HoloEN didn't collab with any Niji branch?

>>33167484
Hi Omegatranny, how are you doing?

>>33163872
I swear Pomu did this stream to call out NijiEN management for their dogshit merch

Do you think the nijis are secretly doing holo auditions behind anycolor's back?

Do you guys remember ichikara hired 10-yen army to defend their talents/management for online harassment?

>>33167815
No, but I remember cover hiring 5-yen army to promote tempiss /here/. Too bad they flopped anyway.

Fuck nijiniggers and KYS ollie

>>33167886
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1461574961626333191
OH NO NO NO Nijikek. your 10-yen army is doubling their hussle

>>33167971
What you gonna spend your 5 yen for? I know you worked really hard for it.

>>33168039
Can spend it for an hour of Noor's pussy
also cope nijikek

>>33168097
>Can spend it for an hour of Noor's pussy
Too bad she has a dick
>also cope nijikek
seethe more holokek

>>33167531
>Yeah, say that again once Kobo collabs with NijiID. In my post I said "top Holos", not some irrelevant shitters who are just a tiny bit less irrelevant than NijiID.
>Muh Top Holos
>When Marine has collabed with Ange and Mikoto from NijisanjiJP
RUMAO you are fucking delusional Nijikek

>>33162730
this talentless bitch should have been in niji instead, good thing she become the runts of holoid now

>>33168205
>When Marine has collabed with Ange and Mikoto from NijisanjiJP
Like 2 years ago? What's gonna be next? You gonna mention Pekora collabing with Hima 3 years ago when they all were irrelevant midgets? At that point that was obvious leeching from holo side.
Lmao, holokek's seethe is reaching some critical points.

>>33167971
Oh no, it's the AISTFCTBD.

>>33162921
are they under a noncompete? whats stopping nijis from applying for hololive? hololive already poached korone and okayu before so this wouldn't be a first for them.

>>33163479
>We still don't know who is actually stopping collabs from happening
why are nijinigs like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdoqxROjAQ

>>33167599
In fairness Niji merch is pretty bad from what I've seen and most vtuber merch is pretty bad.

>>33162819
Chink money is a drug

>>33169975
its been confirmed its NijiEN management

>>33170480

I don't know who bans collabs and i don't care because i don't want the rabid, schizo and retarded holofags watching Nijisanji

>>33162865
It's not like they will be forced to mingle. The talents could only benefit from having the option (but keep the faggot and tranny away from Holo). I think Nijikeks in general are pretty accepting of the idea, since it'll get more "Holo-only" viewers to check out Nijisanji.

>>33162880
Ren's gonna be messaging Gura at least once everyday to try getting a response from her.

>>33165310
Hmmm, yeah, seems like Niji is the one doing the blocking to me. They could've leeched from the biggest vtuber group but their weird pride doesn't allow them to, but then again Holos are snakes, it might be better this way, now if only JP stop interacting with them too, they're literally promoting Holostars for free when most Holos don't even acknowledge those guys(they also don't acknowledge any Niji), fucking dumbasses.

This makes me curious how many are actually friends off stream or Ollie is just exceptionally outgoing

>>33171122
It's like they're telling people to just Super Chat so they don't have to waste their own time ordering and shipping this crap.

>>33162730
Ollie and Alban? That’s random as fuck

>>33165310
Thanks for the rundown. AnyColor needs to lighten up. All NijiEN viewers have seen HoloEN (and ID I guess). They're not gonna lose any viewers from Holo collabs when their viewers are people who prefer NijiEN. Riku and his fuckin' chin, man.

>>33171371
Literally all of the big name vtubers share a discord server together. Talents from HoloEN, Vshojo, and NijiEN are all talking to each other behind the scenes, even if you don't see them together on stream or tweeting each other.

>>33163872
>I probably shouldn't show this, but I'll do it anyway
How the fuck would that make sense if the niji management is OK with hololive?
Also
>Is that the half year anniversary merch? did it ship before the lazulight 1 year?
Pomu went rogue that stream

>>33172196
>Talents from HoloEN, Vshojo, and NijiEN are all talking to each other behind the scenes
No they aren't lmao. Twitch streamers aren't all friends, Youtubers aren't all friends, so why the fuck would Niji and Holo be friends when they're direct competitors? Holo shit on Niji behind the scene just like how Niji shit on Holo in their secret discord.

Are you still pretending its Nijisanji and not HololiveEN which is know for putting a heavy shoe on their talent's throats when in comes to restrictions, responsible for the collab ban?
lol. lmao even.

>>33165090
Anon, you have to understand one simple thing:
Being the first comapny to debut in EN they attracted HUGE asmount of ironic western weebs. Even if they donate much per person and hardly watch streams, there is still lot of them. Most of them dont even know about or hardly heard of nijisanji.
Because Holo tatsed that sweet, sweet taste of monopoly, they will do everything they fucking can to not expose their audience to alternatives. An average person who actually watches streams and has revenue to share with the streamer, has time to watch maybe one streamer. And inb4 someone "yes but this might apply to nijisanji": almost everyone watching NijiEN knows HoloEN very well. The opposite isn't true.

>>33166272
This is such a sad answer. Zoomie brain could handle reading?

>>33171553
Not really, Alban is a known Holofag and Ollie would collab with a fucking Hobo if he asked.

>>33172196
https://files.catbox.moe/t6uipf.mp4
> Diamond City Lights? What's that?

>>33172889
Gura is a bad example, she unironically doesn't give a fuck about anything

>>33173210

>>33172196
>Literally all of the big name vtubers share a discord server together.

Nice goal post moving

>>33173263
Not the same anon you were replying to, I'm just saying that Gura is generally an exception for this kind of stuff

>>33162981
>>both have collabed with a known racist
me?

>>33162882
Niji literally forced Pomu and others to cancel their Nintendo Direct watchalongs because of a Hololive collab teased in it for like 0.5 seconds

>>33173760
Source: voices in my head

>Selen organizes collab with Kureiji "Unity Prime" Ollie.
>greenlit from holo, greenlit from whoever Selen asked at niji
>Selen announces it on stream with a big happy smile
>Paul Li got involved and shuts its down
>Selen has to take care of the damage
>nijifags: HoloEN Evil !!!
nijibros, you deserve better

>>33173933
So why did multiple nijis cancel their planned streams at the last second with the same canned "sorry" message? Frames were up and everything

>>33174222
nta but they most likely didn't consult their managers if they were allowed to do a watchalong
Selen got in trouble for streaming the gamescom event without asking first

>>33163321
That's fair nijifag. Your boys have nutty fans as well as the girls but they are few

>>33173933
Selen was able to talk about State of Play during the end of her Saints Row stream, Sasaki from NijiJP was able to do it just fine.
Call it a rrat but it’s fucking weird that “something came up” for both of them at the same time. Either it’s because they got something important planned for NijiFES or it’s because their chinamen overlords are incredibly butthurt. It’s also weird that Aster cancelled his Little Witch Nobeta stream with no reschedule.

>Albert shipping himself with Ollie, while he's on break
No...

>>33174398
>It’s also weird that Aster cancelled his Little Witch Nobeta stream with no reschedule
It's pretty clear that they're avoiding Holo then. Not like there's anything wrong with that though, the Holosnakes also avoid males for unicorns money, it's all the same everywhere.

>>33174222
>>33174398
Because they were busy with business. They do work in the same corporation and they work together. Buissness takes priority over streams in any corpo. Do you think that each and every one of them have separate calls with management? The level of wishful thinking you do and desperation in seeking patterns you display is really sad.

>>33173760
Little Witch Nobeta didn't even show up on the JP Direct

>>33162876
Nijisanji is big in China, not in the western world. Hololive and Vshojo are the two top companies in the western world.

>>33165310
>9. March 5, 2022 : NijiEN discord leak. wah wah wah
It only ignited tribalism among jobless hikkis who don't know shit about working environment dynamics. Fulgur, a newfag, was the only retard on those chats.
Holo fans don't have anything against NijiEN, as they would have to interact first to have something to get mad about

>>33175039
>Nijisanji is big in China, not in the western world
This is the most retarded post in this entire fucking thread, what an achievement.

>>33162730
Blame china. They are almost certainly holding nijisanji hostage with game permissions and fan backlash since they have so many chinese fans.
china hates hololive. The people of china are the most petty people on earth.

So she's playing with the niji homos off. Why not play with any of the girls? Why is it this woman only plays with men? I genuinely don't understand.

>>33176743
>png from the vtuber wiki
>retarded post

>>33176743
You wouldn't watch Ollie either way so why're you pretending to care anon

>>33176743
Make better bait ESL (I'm sure you stuggled to use proper english)

>>33176864
Literally her fault

>>33176812
>>33176864
I put up with her when she's collabing with better Holos. Now answer me, I'm curious why Ollie only seems to go after male chuubas.

>>33171085
Source?

>>33177021
>Now answer me
You don't watch Ollie regardless of who she collabs with so why're you pretending to care

>>33177154
Because she stains the Hololive name for the rest of ID and even Holo as a whole.

>>33177021
Why is Ollie not allowed to like men? Isn't it basically the same as Holofags liking women while hating all men? But in Ollie's case she just prefer men instead of being deranged schizos.

>>33163660
NTA but I think he's referring to her birthday stream where she mentioned she got a video message that she "couldn't play on stream" which Kiara later confirmed was from her.

It's technically possible Kiara made it without permission from HoloEN management, but the simplest explanation is HoloEN gave the OK and NijiEN shot it down

>>33175628
China hates Hololive so much that they let every other Nijisanji branch interact with every other Hololive branch AND let NijiEN interact with the company Kson went to.

Whatever the problem is, it's with one or both of the company's managers, as members of both EN branches have had to walk on eggshells about mentioning the other (Pomu not mentioning Kiara by name, Kiara **having to ask her manager for permission to finish the story about a dream she had** because it involved naming Millie and Enna).

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd put money on both companies being fucking terrified about collabs causing fans to emigrate to the other company. NijiEN got very lucky with Luxiem's success, and Hololive only stand to lose their bottom line with by bringing down their walled garden. I think there is mutual corporate autism going on between them.

>>33177281
Kobo collabs with males way more than Ollie every has and Fubuki has been doing it for years before either even existed
Are you gonna say Fubuki stained Hololive?

Oh yea Sora has AND DOES STILL as well.
Is Sora staining Hololive?

Everyone in Hololive must be sick of her Yuri baiting crap. Alban must be retarded thinking he has a shot to get close to Gura, must not be a real chumbud unlike Syukko

meanwhile on the JP side https://youtu.be/T6tIq2No038

>>33177569
What else did the voices in your head tell you anon

>>33177438
Yes, Fubuki collabs drag hololive down too.

>>33177438
>retard tries straw-manning argument
I'm not asking about any of those girls.

My question is: why does Ollie enjoy collabing with male so much that she's even resorting to playing offline with restricted agencies?

>defending Nijisanji male off-collabs

Somehow zombraps are even more pathetic than cuckbeats.

>>33177438
Neither Kobo, Fubuki or Sora played offline with Nijisanji male talents.

>>33177681
Holo doesn't restrict niji ESLchama
Learn English
>BUT THEY DO BECASUE
No Selen already said they're dicouraged from talking about "others"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JdJZlhRzeQ

>>33177730
>WAAH NO ONE CARES ABOUT MY FORCED DRAMA
Kill yourself tranny

>>33177780
proof???

>>33177784
I know Hololive doesn't restrict Nijisanji; I know the restriction is on Nijisanji's side. Doesn't matter who restricted who, it's still a restricted corp.
>Learn English.
Your brain must be overheating trying to come up with any real arguments that you need to resort to the ESL boogeyman.

>>33177780
You're right Fubuki did it on stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQB--nLwIF4&t=0s

>>33177973
>2 years ago
Bruhhhhhhhhh
>>33177626
She would rather collab with some random Niji but not Holostars, why?

>>33173760
How would they know Nobeta would be on the direct you fucking moron? Are you saying Nijisanji has a Nintendo insider? Their dad works at Nintendo?

>>33165310
>when Selen was talking about Zeta, she accidentally slips out
not really a slip, she intended to say anyway

>>33175039
go outside this godforsaken board once in a while, please.

>>33177666
add to your pathetic list the following
roboco, towa, matsuri, choco, mel, subaru, risu, calli, kronii, mumei, bae, amelia, irys

>>33165310
nijiEN management is shooting themselves in the foot. how the hell are you this delusional?

>>33177681
Why you still asking a question you know the answer?
Ollie prefers to play with men, because they are better to talk and more competent in most games
Alban probably manhandled her in Raft and the game went smooth, most other girls would just be as incompetent as her not knowing what to do

>>33162819
At the exact point that any of you actually explain why is it detrimental for their talents or companies without any fanfiction headcanons

Jesus Christ why can't nobody tell me Ollie pushes so hard for male collabs without bringing in other Holo girls?

>>33163064
>Her name is Gurin Petra
>Massive weeb refers to her by her surname instead of her given name
>NOOOOOOO THAT SOUNDS TOO CLOSE TO MY COMPETITOR'S NAME YOU HAVE TO CALL ME BY MY FIRST NAME
>啊

>>33179217
ollie is a degenerate zoomer

>>33177432
>Luxiem success
>Holoen decline
Nijinnigers always.

>>33179217
>>33178966

>>33179282
what the fuck are you talking about
nobody ever referred to her using only the surname, dude was just reading chat

>playing off stream with a fucking niji dude
disgusting

I hope it is nijiEN blocking the collabs
cause it guarantees nijiEN won't have to walk on eggshells doing a collab with Idol Meeting Productions
No second guessing if they can banter or not with the Holo while fearing the raging mob waiting to twist anything said

>>33174222
Sasaki literally streamed it.

>>33180533
its 100% nijiEN

>>33174398
aster said he's gonna play it towards the end of sept because it's supposed to get a new update around the 29th or so

>>33173760
and yet Niji management literally did not care about her room review stream where half the rooms had holo merch

>>33162981
>both have collabed with a known racist
o it's the schizo.
KILL WHITEY!

>>33181485
Good.

>>33165203
Yeah, she was just pausing the story right before mentioning their names to write a text message for no reason

>>33179362
Learn to read, retard.

Simple solution is to just let Ollie join nijisanji
win win
take Mori while you're at it

>>33165310
This comes from both sides. They know that the western audience is retarded and tries to shoo away the gachikois that brings in the money.
So instead of trying to gather money from that, they are trying the same approach sports team does, where they create a rivarly between teams so that a person feels more inclined to support their own team.

>>33162730
This is why now she regularly streams to less than 1k viewers despite a million subs.

>>33162730
Good

>>33162730
Please keep your underage Chinese fangirls away from my oshi's chat. Thank you.

>>33171085
It's both sides.

>>33166711
Has Holo EN collabed with any Nijisanji branch as well? I don't keep up with them so I don't know.

>>33162819
who knows

>>33165310
I'm looking at posts like these and realizing that it might actually be better for the two companies to never collab. I get the feeling the niji vtubers would get swarmed by resentful holofans, antis and schizos if they were to mingle. Better to just play it safe and do their own thing.

>>33180533
>I hope it is nijiEN blocking the collabs
It isn't.
>>33186255
Sorta? It's literally ONLY NijiEN and HoloEN that can't collab. Every other branch is free game.

>>33189393
Nijicen can't collab with anyone from holo, even former holo like kson who was blocked on political bases.

>>33162730
Good

>>33191693
I wonder if this is an order from the shareholders, didn't bilibili has some anycolor's stocks? Either way I get the sentiment that a holoEN collab will fuck the shit outta anycolor's stock prize

it's holo blocking since they're the only vtuber group that has to watch what they say when it comes to males and anything china related. All other vtuber groups are fine in comparison

>>33193984
Your deflection is as charming as usual.
Just admit NijiEN is a horrible branch staffed with horrible people targeting deeply flawed (dare i say rotten) people as their audience.

>>33194828
My oshi is thriving dispite you holofags seething and chink fans you hate screeching on bilibil
holo can seethe, chinks can be subhuman, anycolor can accelerate 10 waves, my oshi still all that matters

>>33183826
Do you think it's working outside /vt/?

>>33162820
Except NijiJP and HoloJP collab all the time, and it's not a problem. It's just the EN management that has a stick up their ass for some reason.

>HoloJP/ID can collab with with their NijiJP/former ID
>HoloEN cant collab with any Niji branch
>NijiEN cant collab with any Holo branch
>Plenty of proof for it being both and also neither at the same time
So who is it exactly? Couldn't they just collab with Vshojo and have a sort of proxy collab

>>33193888
Just think for a second
it is worthy as a corpo to collab with Kson if you're not a big fan of her?
in terms of clout, you won't gain much her viewers are loyal to her
in terms of headache, you get bunch of chinks spamming chat, comments, twitter and so on

The bigger the company affiliated with the chuuba collabing the worst it gets

If I die before watching the Pomu/Kiara collab my soul will not rest

>>33162730
Honestly, nobody gives a shit about Ollie. Collabing with males is degenerate filth. NTR-ing your boys for another corpo is fucking betrayal. Hang her high

>>33174900
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1569633209855639552
Selen actually used astral projection to talk to management while sleeping.

ollie really wont stop until no one watches her anymore huh?

>>33202937
Anon Ollie is still top 2 in ID like it or not

>>33203067
yet she and anya have almost the same number of live views(~1.5k) despite her drastically larger sub count

>>33204143
>>33202937
Holy retard

>>33204143
>Number nigger
>Doesn't know numbers
Every
Single
Fucking
Time

>>33204143
I bet you think 1k is normal for IDs too huh

It amuses me that Holofags would rather have their women ALONE with a dude than on-stream. It doesn't take a wizard to figure out which is more dangerous.

>>33204785
Who are you quoting aside from the voices in your head

>>33204251
she struggles to outpace her in a stream that they are both in lmao

>>33205030
>A multiple POV collab

>Number nigger
>Doesn't know numbers

>>33205030
You just proved him right retard..............

>>33205030
You're embarrassing yourself anon

>>33204869
The first 8~ posts?

>>33205124
okay these two streams happend a day apart

>>33205720
>FoTM that EVERYONE's playing
vs
>Fucking splatoon

>Number nigger
>Doesn't know numbers

>>33205720
>>33205030
Numbershit should be bannable especially when it's this fucking pathetic

>>33205720
>Numbertranny
>Doesn't know numbers
Jesas

>>33205855
splatoon 3 released that day

>>33205720
anon.........
Just go back already >>>/vt/numbers
Your kind will never be accepted by the rest of the board
No one but you ESL brownskins care about this sad shit

>>33165389
Finally a gen I could get behind.

>>33162946
the context here is Holo and NijiEN anon

>>33162730
Good

>>33177681
Holy shit. Not that guy, but fucking A.
>I will ignore this pertinent question because it invalidates my entire argument, please argue against me in this tiny world of my imagination.
My dude, your argument is:
>Because she stains the Hololive name for the rest of ID and even Holo as a whole.
You can't just say "Nah dude, just this one, the others are not part of the problem."
You argue like a spoiled woman, and it's sad. At least the crazies that think they're going to fuck one of the shiny anime girls and feel existential dread the shiny anime girl might fuck every male that she hears in a voice chat are interestingly unstable.
You don't even have principles.

>>33162730
>NijiEN has to fucking play off stream with Hololive because they can't play on stream.
thats how it works

>>33178797
Subaru doesn't collab with males anymore faggot. She learned her lesson and went the idol route.

>>33218786
>and went the idol route.
I like how you idol LARPers like to pretend Idols don't collab with males every but in reality actual idols do frequently for business

>>33163787
Then ban Luxiem as a whole.
HoloCN didn't stop Holo/NijiJP collabs.

>>33218786
Sora isn't an idol?

>>33164717
>no argument

Can we trade Ollie to NijiEN, we get Pomu or Petra to Holo?

>>33218786
This implies Sora isn't an idol and we all know damn well she's the best in all of Hololive and she interacts and collabs with males all the time

Stop fucking pretending to know about shit you know nothing about

>>33170984
>t. seething mutt

>>33162730
Good

>>33201017
>Collab with same company: aaaaa she's not respecting le idol culture (according to whatever 4chin niggs wanted it to be)
>Collab with other company: aaaaa it's NTR why didn't she collab with men in the same company
Can never win

>>33218962
I'm convinced these guys are just SEA muslims.

>>33218943
Please take Petra

>>33162730
Ollie is out of control.

If she is allowed niji male collabs she will next be looking towards av male model collabs

quit begging for a collab. Niji gets nothing out of collabing with the unicorn pandering company. Go collab with indies and vshojo, lift your collab ban, and get rid of your shitty fans before asking

>>33169732
>Korone, Okayu and Polka from upd8
>Luna from Niji
>Lamy from IRIAM
>Lui from Re:Act
And I'm pretty sure I'm still missing someone in JP

>>33226321
Good, I hope she spreads it to the rest of Hololive.

>>33226321
you just fucking know Kroon would "suggest" to collab with Magnum