/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33120985
Kek calli in the backround saying "nooo its other people not us!!!"

>Ame: tells viewers to improve themselves instead of complaining
>Kiara: says Myth needs to improve themselves to set an example for viewers
huh...

>>33121078
These two things aren't in conflict, autist-kun

>>33120985
I just can't stop kneeling bros

>>33120985
I Kneel for austrian pussy

>>33121075
All four of them were saying things like that, Ina kept pointing out the staff is often the reason why things are slow moving. Kiara once again odd woman out.

>>33120985
Is being based in the Austrian school curriculum?

>>33120985

>>33120985
Why are Germans like this?

>repeatedly throwing her friend under the bus to score easy points with the schizo audience who harass them
Imagine supporting this kind of behavior

I guess Kiara is taking back the leadership title from Ame whose done fuck-all to lead. Sad but expected to see Ina try to shift the blame. At some point simply blaming the managers for their laziness is not going to work like it used to. Year 1 is understandable, but by year 2 come the fuck on. They need a tard wrangler and it's up to the queen of Menhera to have to do that.

>>33121521
Kiara knows she's the only Myth on the idol path aside from maybe Gura sometimes. She probably figures if she signals well enough to the gachikoi that she's offering the idol experience, her numbers will go up.

>>33120985
THEY HATE HER BECUASE SHE TELL THE THRUTH

>i wont improve myself because others dont do it
what kind of retarded logic is that

>>33121521
>>33121683
homoseethe

>>33121521
Back to twitter, tranny.

>>33121683
Reading comprehension reps...

Why should the managers be 100% responsible for events like this? It's supposed to be a special event for Myth, and it gives the girls an opportunity to do something creative to celebrate their 2nd year as a gen. I think all of Myth needs to prep their shit before blaming others.

>>33121388
Kiara once again proving that she's only the true idol in EN.

>>33121765
please take a shower, get some fresh air and have sex

>>33120985
Kiara was our girl all along

I can only imagine she was lowkey calling out someone specific, if there's a cameo from a Myth member in her new song we'll know who.

>>33120985
Virtue signaling narcissist

>>33121683
the kind of retarded logic exhibited by people who haven't improved themselves to the point where the drive to pursue self-improvement becomes self-sustaining

And she sheds crocodile tears wondering why the rest of the girls don't like her.

>>33121845
i doubt you have sex. you spam homobeggar shit on this board day and night like a devout cultist

>>33121614
>so desperate for numbers that she's willing to undermine her coworkers efforts to normalize cross-branch collabs with Tempus even going for low blows like "I can play with the GIRLS later wink wink" and "maybe you should improve yourself, ame"
Shit like this is why she doesn't have any friends whatsoever in HoloEN, and she'll soon notice that pandering to 20 incels who keep spamming the /vt/ catalog isn't actually the key to success

>>33121890
bro, this isn't /infinity/

>>33121521
>>33121890
>>33121845
>>33121923
Homobeggar seethe.

>>33120985
>Ame after preparing half of the things for Holo EN over the course of 2 years being told by Kiara to get her shit together.
>Also Mori deflecting and blaming everyone else.

>>33120985
Kiara has the JP mindset, kneel

>>33121388
Kiara seems to get along with management better. She also speaks Japanese, which certainly helps move things along since she wouldn't need to rely on management to relay stuff as much. She also seems like the kind of person who would just hassle people if she felt things weren't moving quickly enough (not a bad thing really, since it results in stuff actually getting done).

>>33121938
>20 incels who keep spamming the /vt/ catalog
What the fuck are you talking about? It's been days since the Kronii yab and everyone would have moved on if it weren't for you homobeggars making bait threads.

>>33122010
Jenma is a submissive doormat for her, which is funny because everyone else only ever complains about management shutting down their fan and bonking them

>>33121890
my thoughts exactly

>>33121968
Based.

>>33121545
yeah if the en managers suck (im sure they do) you need to go over their heads and talk to somebody high up in jp and get it sorted out, not wallow in mediocrity for months

>>33121966
Are you aware that just because Kiara is capitalizing on all the cucks like you who felt cucked about a woman playing games with males coworkers does not mean the rest of them feel the same way right? Keep holding onto your delusion and watch Gura be the ? In Ame collab.

Orange woman good!

>>33121388
Weird how it's the other four who /vt/ keeps accusing of being lazy because they barely stream these days.
Wonder if there is a correlation.

>>33121867
Probably this. It would be ok if she said that she needs to get her shit together but instead she calls out her whole gen. And it is probably because of what one of the other girls did.

>>33121938
If nothing else I'm actually glad this is happening because I am genuinely curious as to how effective it will be. If people want more of what Kiara is offering, they need to put forth the tiniest modicum of effort and watch her vods. She's still the lowest subbed, bump those numbers up, apply yourselves.

>>33122055
What the fuck are you talking about? If you don't believe it, here's an ex janitor confirming this is what happens:
https://youtu.be/HDkmizGblxk?t=851
There's a reason why this is an accurate meme depiction of the site.

>>33122152
>2 more weeks

>>33122152
Now say that without crying.

>>33122152
Fuck off back to /MANS/ or Twitter you tranny

Why kneel when I knew she was the "good egg"?

>>33122152
It's not the interaction itself. It's the way it's done. Kronii vs Mumei. We told you this multiple times. You're a kiwifarms refugee just shitting up the board for the milk.

>>33122284
Don't talk to literal retards. It's demeaning.

>>33120985

>>33120985
>Kiara saying myth needs to get their shit together
>Ame is the one taking care of everything, events, network, making the new coworkers feel welcomed...
this lack of self awareness must be a german thing

>>33121521
Kiara did well bringing it up and they all look better for acknowledging difficulties rather than pretending things are perfect.

>>33120985
This whole stream was fucking weird and made me feel doomer about the future of Myth. Even this "rally the troops" speech ended in a wet fart when none of them even took it to heart.

Kiara should improve herself by sitting on reine's face, then i'll improve myself by blasting my dick at all the fanart of said event

>>33122429
All Whoreson does is pay people to do everything for her, retard

>>33122429
Seethe more homofaggot

>>33122429
she wasn't calling out watson, she was calling out gawr "i'll show up to the vr stream with no vr, tee hee" gura

>>33122442
>they all look better for acknowledging difficulties
temporarily. if they dont follow up by improving themselves then it makes them look worse. because now they admit there are issues but refuse to work on them.

>>33120985
ME ME ME ME

>>33122212
Homobeggars? Yeah, this is accurate. Although I don't think it's 20. Writing styles are too similar. Maybe like 3 dedicated ones. Could be 1. Could be (You).

>>33122429
>but its fine when she says it to the people who pay her bills
I swear teacucks are mind broken at this point

>>33121521
>>33121938
She's trying to help them you idiots. They're straying into a weird path, she wants to get them back on track. If she only cared about herself she'd leave them to sink into the sea of cocks they got themselves into without saying anything.

>>33120985
Kiara is so fucking based, truly the hardest working EN

>People seething over Kiara saying that all Myth members (including herself btw.) should try to have things ready a bit earlier than the last second
Really are you guys so allergic to criticism of Myth members that it makes you seethe, go back to your hugbox

>>33120985
What a retard.

>>33122525
It's actually "WE WE WE need to improve"
Also you're a faggot

>>33122212
>He confirms it!
Not really? Do you have definitely proof that he is talking about this specific case? The voices in your head don't count
>They don't know is the same people
Sounds lik a newfag too. Faggots do notice, they just can't stop shitposting

Based as fuck chikim

>>33122486
What would happen to kiara future project if Ame decides to fuck her over. She's a retard. She's talking about how they're should improve themselves when her dumb ass streams the most of out her gen and the majority fanbase combined STILL DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK. but please continue to have men live rent free in your mind faggot. I'm sure you're father is proud of you.

>>33122686
Seethe

>>33122645
You retard he's talking about ~2006-2012 4chan of course he's not talking about this thread that was made 38 minutes ago. Only newfags care about being oldfags. Going on 4chan and visiting it consistently isn't an impressive feat of strength.

>>33122686
Mucho seetho

I stopped watching Myth because they are lazy whores.
Kiara says that they shouldn't be lazy whores anymore. And I agree
Anyone who disagrees is called homobeggar
t. homobeggar though I don't want your whores any near my boys. They are just using them to chase their agenda and purge audience from people that actually expect something more than clout chasing and react streams

>>33122736
have sex kid

>>33122835
>Only newfags care about being oldfags
..until Kiwifarms died and flooded this board with homobeggar baits

>>33122863
Then tell your homofaggots to refuse collab invites

>>33122429
The original point Kiara made (and not the one dramaniggers try to spread where Kiara implies that everyone but her is a lazy sack of shit) was that they should not leave everything to the last minute and everyone, Kiara included, is guilty of that and she knows that. Ame is no exception.

>>33122878
you certainly don't

>>33122863
Your bluefaggot has the most annoying voice in Hololive and it pisses me off he'd the one usually accepting the female collabs

kiara redemption arc? A lot of people seem to hate her. People say she's annoying, but i thought you liked GFE?

>>33122861
Faggot

>>33122878
alright I’ve left your mother sobbing in the bathroom with my cum oozing out of her nose. however I reread your posts and you’re still a cringy faggot. what should I do next to better understand you?

>>33120985
Kiara it's just spike them with Ritalin

>>33121521
As a schizo I support this.

Two years in and faggots still don't get that Kiara takes her role in a Japanese company seriously and wants to work at their standards which will encourage the higher-ups to take notice. Ame throwing together a project or 2 a year is nice but it barely even scratches the surface of what JP does. JP higher-ups treat EN like a side branch because FUCKING MYTH TREATS IT LIKE A SIDEJOB.

Mori dusted off her RM career and is on tour as both
Ina refuses to give up her Priestess duties and focus full time like she assured she would
Gura barely streams
Ame and Kiara are the only ones working.

So with that in mind why the fuck would management cater to that? Kiara understand this and has asked all of Myth without singling any one offender out to actually fucking try. It's not that controversial.

>>33123090
Teacope in 3 2 1

I wonder what bait threads homobeggars will make to bury this one

>>33123014
I still hate her but that doesn't make her point any less valid.

>>33122530
There is a ton of astroturfing and falseflagging done by just a few people, and apparently it's so fun for them that they spend hours on it every day.

>>33123090
Based and true

>>33120985

>>33121968
Kek oh myth never change

>>33120985
ORANGE WOMAN GOOD

>>33120985
Ame can start improving by fixing the Worms roster.

>>33123090
The JPs are the exact same way with their RM careers, barely streaming, and not completing many projects. I think it's time to accept that this is just how they run all branches.

Mumei could be the best idol in Hololive if she tried to. I want her to have a gimmick tweak so bad because Kiara is just f'ing annoying at convincing you she's pure.

>>33120985
>https://streamable.com/rzax14
That subtle jab at Ame in the end: " We need improve ourselves, because if we don't then why would other people improve themselves?"

You can even see Ame stop fucking around as she breaks eye contact with the camera and stands still.

>>33121078
Myth can't improve themselves if their fans won't improve themselves and stop this tribalfaggotry. They won't be seiso if there fans refuse to be seiso.

>>33123323
They live in Japan. They work for a Japanese company with known preferences to JP. They can get away with it. EN has to work harder to get that attention, that's just how it has to be if they want to get anywhere.

>>33120985
>The Leader
I FUCKING KNEEL

>faceless viewer and paypig, it is you in this para-social relationship that needs to improve
What are they even saying? Kiara is trying her hardest to save the brand from these retards that still don't get it.

>>33123014
I don't find the menhera thing very appealing, and I don't really care for a good chunk of her streaming content. But I'm also just here for cute girls playing games I like, my favorite Myth streams are probably Gura going through Devil May Cry.

>>33123090
For Ina this very much is a side job and she would be insane to give up her real job to do it

>>33123378
I love that Kiara understands the irony of Amelia Watson telling her fans to improve themselves

>>33122264
CARLOS!

>>33123454
Then she should have cleared that up a year ago. Not do her wishy-washing kick the issue down the road bullshit.

>>33123434
True, but at least she sticks to that and knows what the score is unlike Ame and mori.

>>33121078
Not here, tribalfag.

>>33120985
Fucking based I need to check her out now

>>33123498
I dont disagree

>>33123323
You can count the amount of JPs that do what you're claiming on one hand and one of them is literally the Mori of JP.

>>33121938
Kill yourself cuck homotempus IS NOT HOLOLIVE

>>33123407
Nah, JP branch has the same difficulties with management.

>What Kiara said
We need to improve ourselves!
>What KFPs think Kiara meant
Kiara is the only true idol and the rest of Myth needs to improve themselves

>>33122177
>Weird how it's the other four who /vt/ keeps accusing of being lazy because they barely stream these days.
Ame streams plenty

>>33123498
you want her to talk about her job and all her various off-hololive projects on stream ? or do you just want her to freeze a career she's been working towards for 10+ years ? not saying she isn't overworking herself, but i think she can't just "stop" without becoming irrelevant eventually

>>33123593
I am KFP and I said this >>33122601

>>33123323
Name a few.

Man. Astroturfing, falseflagging and bait threads have really ramped up since KF went under.

>>33123593
Yes, we KFP understand her better than anyone else. And?

>>33123407
>EN has to work harder to get that attention, that's just how it has to be if they want to get anywhere.
But they already clearly make so much money that they're burning out, what is this weird idea that they're struggling and hungry for a win? They made it, they're the top .1% of vtubers. Kiara may want to go down the JP idol path but I don't think a single other member of Myth feels the same way. Ina basically does vtubing to keep her true passion of her art career stable, Mori is very much in that mindset for her music too. Amelia clearly is spinning wheels not knowing what she wants to do but it's definitely not idolshit, and Gura is literally numero uno vtuber, there's no more horizon for her to reach.

>>33120985
why do anything ever since you're gonna die anyway who cares just do whatever or don't do whatever you want lmao

>>33123553
Start counting, you gaslighting retard.

>>33123690
Kind of like how /vt/ retards ended up on KF to shit their pants about Mori getting Gura raped?

>>33123319
Look there are certain individuals I would rather not see in that worms collab as much as you. But if the others accepted the invitation sooner (like how Reine did) then they wouldn't be there in the first place. I'll just echo what Kiara is saying; these girls really just need to get things done faster in general.

>>33121481
ordnung muss sein

>>33123712
>we KFP
You don't speak for me or anyone else.

>>33123014
I like Kiara but her voice legitimately gives me a headache in long bursts, at this point I turn on her streams and run them muted just to give her the numbers. Then enjoy clips after the fact. I really wish she didn't do the fucking chicken voice I want to watch her goddamn streams.

>>33123690
Literally the worst part about it all. The farms may have been a cesspool of Chris-chan level autism and troon level freaks, but it was a good containment for those bottom feeders. Now that the dark rock they were living under is gone, they're skittering everywhere and causing problems.

>>33123651
I want her to not lie about how her current RM project is the last, which is what she did over a year ago. I swear, some of you either have such insanely low standards that something as simple as “don’t misrepresent the situation” is seen as a personal attack on the girls, or you’re just fucking retarded.

>>33122152
leave my bossu out of your shitposting

>>33123651
>It's the homobeggars
>It's the eggs
>It's the kiwitrannies
>It's twitterfaggots
>It's reddit
>It's the deadbeats
Just how mind broken is kfp? If everyone has something against her then maybe she's the problem.

>>33123651
she could just say "hey takos, you are just a sidegig, so regular streams will not be a thing or rather rare." so she doesn't trick half a mil people into thinking she is a streamer.

>>33121521
They are paid employees in a company.

>>33123553
Ignoring the one you are talking about(well since she is the hot topic now), Mel, Noel and Matsuri's RM are also very active. Azki is also active in her own roommate(which is also a vtuber). These are the ones I now of. This was never a problem, I remember when we watched both Coco and Kson since her debut and no one ever complained.

>>33123839
That is how it is.
And look I love Ina but saying "Management is slow" is the exact reason why you need to get started early, to account for management being slow

i miss when the drama was just miko raped pekora, now everything is divided

>>33123957
>Everyone
It is only losers like you, who seem to seethe at Kiara saying something completely logical

>>33123996
Leave this place and everything is the same again.

>>33123957
>It's the homobeggars
>It's twitterfaggots
>It's reddit
>It's the deadbeats
These are all the same people.

>>33123593
Nobody in KFP thinks that you fucking faggot. We don't care about the fucking collective madness surrounding the HomosEN becase we actually respect Kiara, since she is truly committed with what she does

>>33123957

>>33123957
Unicucks and gachicucks don't realize she doesn't give a fuck about what they want in particularly she just want their money kek she's a fucking snake but what you do you know? You can't expect a bunch of fags who last interaction with women was during their senior year high school prom when their mom told them they looked handsome to know when they're being taken advantaged off.

>>33123323
A handful of them do that.

>>33124116
ESL post.

>>33123687
>Barely streams
Shion, Aqua, Marine, Laplus, Ayame, Mel, Suisei, Haachama, Sora, Nene, and some who are borderline like Kanata.
>RM careers
If you know, you know.
>Projects
Most don't do many and they have the same issues with management blocking them.

>>33124116
What does any of this have to do with Kiara saying that they should have things ready a bit earlier? Stay on topic faggot

>>33124116
Last time you watched any stream, vtuber and stream topic

>>33120985
WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO KNEEL THO THE DAMN CHICKEN?!?!?!

>>33123957
>>33124089
>>33124116
homeless Kiwifarm roasties kek

>>33124233
I don't know, but AAAAAIIIIIIIII I MUST KNEEEEEEEEELLLLLL KIARA-SAMA

>>33123957
Cope homotranny

>>33124181
>Sora
Sora has done TEN public streams in this month. Fucking threadreaders.

>>33120985
what did Kiara do for Myth? everything was "MEMEMEME" content from her

>>33123651
That's because every Kiara anti belong to all of those groups.

>>33120985

>>33124380
Kiara is the only one who actually enjoys being in hololive at this point

>>33120985
No wonder myth is falling apart. The others probably hate Kiara for this shit.

>>33123651
I'm not asking she stop working her job. I'm fine with that. She put in a fuck ton of work to get to that point." I'm saying she shouldn't have fucking jerked the chains of every who likes her streaming content with false promises. She should have been honest from the start, but she wasn't. It's probably my only issue I've ever had with her.

every once in a while there is a post like this, where the comment show just how out of touch with reality /vt/ is.
everyone here knows that the myth girls delay stuff until the last moment (including kiara, which she knows).
but just like mori didn't want to hear the truth, anons deny it.

>>33123957
All those groups are the same people, retard.

>>33124508
Mori and Ame hate her because she refuses to take part in Tempiss collabs.

>>33124611
>>33124095

>>33124508
truth hurts

>>33124598
>anons deny it.
It's just cuckbeats and homobeggars denying it.
Listen to how defensive Mori got. Even though she was the one that pointed out they hadn't finished the song yet because she hadn't sent in her recordings.

>>33123957
Nobody has anything against Kiara accept for eggs and salty homobeggers. Even people who can't stand her voice don't really hate her. The only ones seething about her are you deranged schizo retards.

>>33124380
Remember those good ass among us collabs? Coordinated by chikim.

>>33120985
Holy fuck, you can see how they immediately feel attacked and start babbling to make noise before they can even come up with an excuse to defend themselves, I KNEEL.

>>33124116
>Unicucks and gachicucks don't realize she doesn't give a fuck about what they want in particularly she just want their money kek she's a fucking snake
>Source: the voices in my head
Cool fiction bro

why do kiwifags hate Kiara? did you rot your brain with doxx

>>33120985
Based
How did a statement like this ended up in "gachikois/homobeggars bad"?

>>33124831
the homeless kiwifarms roasties will hate anything that men like. they hate men.

>>33120985
>chicken brutalizing 4 people live
God fucking damn I kneel.

>>33124904
Because none of them watched the clip

>>33120985
>sometimes its other people('s fault)

>>33123090
One thing you're wrong about is that telling western women to try is EXTREMELY controversial

Myth will just never truly feel like they've bonded together at all, it's been 2 years and their chemistry with each other hasn't changed.

>>33124923
Pretty much this

>>33124831
She's the girliest of the four, and they will never be real women.

>>33124979
Ina's girly...

>>33120985
if you knew 1% of her past you would know, she's more of a grifter than Mori, this is her virtue signaling for ego points

>>33125085
>I read Orcschizo
OGEY

>>33124710
>nobody has anything against kiara except for those who hate her
Impressive deductive skills, anon.

>>33125178
And those who hate her are only a small number of obese schizos and trannies. Way to miss the point, faggot.

>>33123319
That actually looks like a much better collab. I have nothing against Tempus, hell I watch more StarsJP nowadays than most of HoloEN, but this spam of big collabs with them is getting annoying and I just wanted to see them being more active with their actual senpai, not this overcorrection of something that happened 3 years ago.

>>33125085
if you actually new MORE than just the 1% that has been fed to you you'd know how retarded you sound

>>33125085
>homobeggar seething noises

>>33125085
But you can't post any proof she's a grifter because you'd get banned, right? Everyone just has to blindly trust you and take your word for it. But that's okay because surely you're mentally healthy and wouldn't lie on the internet.

>>33122152
You don't even watch Shien, you fucking tourist.

>>33125486
What does that have to do with anything, dramanigger?

People complaining about Kiara saying this are probably the same ones who complain that the girls aren't doing enough for hololive. I guess if they had actually taken the advice to heart shitposters wouldn't have anything to shitpost about

>>33121521
Kiara, genuinely, has no friends in EN. Ame is the closest thing, and its still massively lopsided.

>>33125804
>Dramanigger
>Just called Kiara a drifter based on nothing
RUMAO the lack of self-awareness from Kiaraschizo dramaniggers

>faggots finally realizing they're not welcome
Seethe more you subhumans

I just wanna see Gura or Fauna collab with a male so all you nerds go insane

>>33125875
>Kiara, genuinely, has no friends in EN
>Source: the voices in my head
As the favorite source of schizos

>>33124508
If they hate her for telling everyone to get their shit together after 2 years of constant fuck ups and delays they really needed her to say this to their face even more bluntly than she already did.

Kiara-Karaage! I KNEEL!
But please, for the love of God, PLEASE drop the chimkin voice.

>>33126243
>just wanna see Gura or Fauna collab with a male so all you
t. you: >>33121966

>>33126243
What if they don't want to?

>>33120985
This is why Kiara remains my favorite Myth member, chicken voice aside. She's had to fight hard to acquire her position and the extremely dedicated fanbase she has.
The other girls were gifted simps on a silver platter, so they easily take them for granted (ie. improve yourself, losers watching anime girls, 5%, etc.) and expect the world to revolve around them with minimal expectation for reciprocating the time and effort their fans put into them. Kiara understands what it feels like to have an oshi, to follow idols and support them. Due to that her mindset is on PLEASING the fans by reciprocating their adoration with hard work and giving them what she always wanted from those she followed, rather than expecting them to automatically follow in her footsteps no matter what she does like mindless cash drones. This is why she doesn't fit in well at times with the others. Wanna know why she fits so well with Reine? Look at their stream hours from last year.
Gura seems to be an outlier and can see things from Kiara's point of view, but she has spurts of low energy and mental fatigue that make it difficult to keep that work ethic up.
>tl;dr chicken has the JP spirit, other girls are too westernized

>>33126243
We'll be waiting for your shitty skit threads if that ever happens, homeless Kiwifarms roastie clown

>>33126358
they will, they can't ignore it until graduation

>>33126243
They’ll shitpost for a few days and get over it. En fans have no conviction

>>33126391
Kiara is the second most stubborn holo after Anya. She can and she will.

>>33126363
Okay Kiara you have some pretty big problems too but in this case you were right

>>33126428
The absolute state of EOPs

>>33120985
Based Kiara. Sad seeing Mori and Ina trying to deflect

>The real war was the one within HoloMyth

>>33126518
The absolute state of homobeggars.

>>33121521
Kys faggot

>>33121075
First thing that stood out. Jesus, is she fucking insufferable. No wonder the chimkin can't stand her guts anymore.

>>33126391
They can and will ignore Tempus. Your homos are completely ignorable. Your cuck fantasies won't come true.

>>33120985
orange woman good!

>>33126579
Who the fuck talked about holostars? Fucking God, Tempus really broke ensharts.

>>33126703

>>33126243
Retard

>>33126542
POMU SUPPORTS KIARA BTW

>>33126826
Pomu isn't an annoying bitch like kiara though stop deflecting.

She's right and all, but doing it on stream is kinda cringe. This is a post stream private thing ideally. Not necessarily though cause it's not exposing anything, but it's better off stream than on.

>>33126798
And who said I was talking about Tempus? Look what I was replying to. >>33126428
>Kiara is the second most stubborn holo after Anya. She can and she will.

>>33126798
>so triggered by a homochad posts he spergs out at a random anon

>>33126961
It ensures that they will be bloody well aware that their fans will hold them to it.

>>33121521
the path of the idol is meant only for cutthroat businesswomen. the rest of holoEN should take notes quite honestly.

>>33121075
>it's not always us... (Mori)
>MOST OF TIME IT'S US!!!
>sometimes it's the staff members... (Gura)
>WE NEED TO MAKE UP OUR MINDS AND DECIDE EARLIER, MOST OF TIME IT'S US!
who's right?

>>33126961
none of these are my oshi so i have no horse in this race but it's absolutely appropriate for an anniversary stream since it gives them all something to aspire towards in the coming year
obviously something more concrete would be more desirable but what can you do
at least they talked about being hopeful for 3D debut

>>33127066
Imagine saying this when Mori regularly attempts to trick her branch mates into vshojo and male collabs onstream by doing shit like this.
https://streamable.com/p8mhh2
What Kiara said is peanuts in comparison to that bullshit.

>>33127106
she sounds obnoxious, reminder that kiara is ESL so you can't blindly trust her words

>>33125311
>only the people I dislike hates her
I dont really think you have a point to begin with. You're rambling, at best.

>>33127106
Compare Gura's stream time to Kiara.
Compare all the times Mori cancels and or delays collabd by 1-2 hours compared to Kiara.
Then answer your own question. Hell, this entire exchange happened because Mori proudly proclaimed she hadn't sent in her recordings in yet despite the deadline passing.

>>33127224
if ESLs aren't to be trusted you're saying 75% of this boards posts aren't worth reading

>>33127224
>reminder that kiara is ESL so you can't blindly trust her words
Do Americans really?

>>33127066
>that their fans will hold them to it
roru
rumao even
Normalfags don't care whether what you do is good or bad. All they care about is how they can interact with it for internet points. It's literally not in their interest to see them improve because in that case they can't farm pity points by posting sentimental walls of text blaming idolfags or /vt/.

>>33127331
Well the number of worthless posts on this board are higher than 75%

>>33120985
Kiara bootylicking cover is kinda sad

>>33127575
>bootlicking
Holy shit, these are the kinds of people homos brought in.

>>33127575
Yes as we all know Kiara has never critisized management...

>>33120985
Kiara is the tardwrangler of Myth and her oshi is Pekora, she's based

>>33124116
>Unicucks and gachicucks don't realize she doesn't give a fuck about what they want in particularly she just want their money
I thought the obsession with what people are thinking rather than what they are doing is a Christian-only thing, but apparently not, ESL-chama.
I don't give a shit how she feels, as long as she behaves they way I want her too it's all good.
t. unicorn

While I agree, it doesn't matter in the end because vtubing is barely a job. There's not enough repercussions for acting poorly or unprofessionally. No one is going to slap their hand unless it's something really absurd. Their only real threat is contract breaching. So of course workers in this situation are going to be lazy.

>>33120985
Lmao this further proves that there is no unity in Myth. Women from Europe usually don’t pay close attention to the words that come out from their mouths. They don’t realize that some words might come out as offensive to others.
As seen in this clip Kiara blabbers her mouth immensely Calli and Gura are on the offensive. Meanwhile you got Ina trying to stray the convo and Ame using the bullshit scapegoat in blaming chat. Kiara is speaking facts but it just comes out offensively that it turns out into a bomb ready to blow.
This is one of the reasons why Kiara has no friends in EN.

>ID holos and their fanbases are more mentally adjusted than EN's
What a timeline.

>>33120985
Based. Shame I'm fucking broke and can't member her now

>>33126961
Well it's a good opportunity to appeal to fans with a forward-facing attitude and give them hope for the future. If it were JPs at worst they'd strain themselves and say "yes we can improve" because it's the right move and stance. Instead you get a sentiment of apathy and resistance to change which doesn't come off as likable.

>>33127924
>Women from Europe usually don’t pay close attention to the words that come out from their mouths
was that revealed to you in a dream?

>>33121938
Nobody wants Tempus collabs normalized, faggot. Myth is dying because of this shit, this years anniversary had less than half the viewers of the last one

>>33128206
I used to fuck a foreign exchange student from France.
Trust me I know

>>33128464
wow. A whole sample size of 1.
very impressive.

>>33127106
>who's right?
The one who streams most often and isn't making excuses for being lazy

>>33126961
Kiara is trying to save HoloEN at the moment. The branch is dying because Mori can't stop fucking up and Kiara is trying to keep her accountable

>>33128188
>Instead you get a sentiment of apathy and resistance to change which doesn't come off as likable.
This has been a constant since forever.

>>33122999
This is what altare looks like when your oshi is sucking his dick in the collab. Now seethe

>>33121521
Based not gonna lie

>>33128736
I genuinely wonder if Mori and Omega have been doing this on purpose together.

>>33120985
I KNEEL

>>33128786
My oshi isn't a whore like Mori.

>>33127924
>Women from Europe usually don’t pay close attention to the words that come out from their mouths. They don’t realize that some words might come out as offensive to others.
More like Americans need to stop being offended when no offense was meant. If Kiara wanted to hurt their feelings, she'd have been much more upfront about it, like most Europeans are.

>>33128188
Only because Mori has EN the way she likes it right now. Fractured with little co-ordination or obligation to actually do anything than a half assed hour long stream every week. If Kiara was pushing for more Vshojo and Homo collabs Mori would be right on board saying yes things need to change.

>>33128446
>A branch that has existed for less than a month is responsible for Myth declining
Damn that's impressive.

>>33121845
your oozing axewound will never be filled by chad's megacock tranny faggot

>>33127924
>Mutts are crybabies that get easily hurt by bluntness
Do mutts really?

>>33120985
Germancucks don't know how to say things without coming as offensive,see how they girls become defensive

>>33128914
Tempus is only symptomatic of ENs issues, not the cause

>>33121938
>incels
Go back to twitter tranny fag

>>33129004
>This is the best meme tempiss cucks could come up with

>>33121968
Ame really needs to get her shit together, at this pace she will never have a solo concert

>>33121845
Ahem.

Crazy how people still parrot ancient rrats about Kiara.
Really is that simple to just astroturf someone, there's always gonna be that one group of people that will believe every word.

>>33122060
Kinda makes you think what shitty ideas the other girls have then...

>>33122152
>Gura collabing with Ame after Rust incident
Why homofags are this stupid?
Oh right they don't watch streams

>>33129195
>BEEEEG

>>33128891
>More like Americans need to stop being offended when no offense was meant.
Don't bother trying, Anon. Americans can't handle banter and have been consumed by outrage culture.

>>33123618
Her streams are shit...
I tried to watch one of mario streams and damn, you really need to be a Gosling to like that...

>>33120985
why does Kiara acts like the leader when she has the lowest numbers, that's like an amateur boxer saying Mike tyson should get his shit together

>>33123957
don't you a tranny to hide from kiwiloser

>>33129532
the actual leader retired from streaming

>>33127924
>Women from Europe usually don’t pay close attention to the words that come out from their mouths. They don’t realize that some words might come out as offensive to others.
Yes, a lot of women in Europe are like that.

>>33123714
Egghhhmmm...
>Pic rel faggot

>>33122429
Getting everyone to put on a VR headset isn’t something a regular person would consider impressive, faggot.

>>33129532
Gura's dead subs mean jack shit and she's lazy as fuck.
Someone needs to tard wrangle and nobody is going to step up.

>>33123714
this, i feel like she's forcing the idol route on the other girls

Kiara is consistently based

>>33129532
Because no one else will take up that mantle. They're too submissive and breedable.

>>33123957
>>It's the homobeggars
>>It's the eggs
>>It's the kiwitrannies
>>It's twitterfaggots
>>It's reddit
>>It's the deadbeats
Same breed of people lmao

>>33120985
why are European women so blunt

>>33129201
Gura is especially suspicious for that. If we apply what Kiara has said yesterday to her situation, it's not that far fetched to explain her projects getting canned last minute because she pitches them to her managers too late when there's no manpower to make it happen anymore.

>>33125512
He actually thinks people aren’t aware of her RM stuff. Basically, he is a retard, a tranny, will never be a woman, and is one more micro aggression away from killing himself.

>>33129532
That's a terrible analogy because most of the best coaches never played the sport they're coaching at the highest level.
If anything you're defending Kiara's case because she knows the most about being an idol and how her JP senpai do things.

>>33129777
beating around the bush is inefficient

>>33129532
>amateur boxer saying Mike tyson should get his shit together
you mean Cus d'Amato

>>33123839
saying this as if the collab HAD to happen regardless of the roster. Maybe they should have gotten xqc to join.

Kiara was based there but I don't really feel like the rest were deflecting. They just (rightly) pointed out that not all delays come from themselves and staff/producers/whatever fuck up all the time too.

I mean if I had to deal with some bullshit delay for the music video because some RETARDED fucking nigger producer couldn't get his shit together for months, and then someone told me "lets get our shit together so there's no delays", I would point out the retarded nigger producer delaying shit too.
They are rightfully pissed at these pieces of shit and don't want it to look like they're the ones to blame for every delay ever.

Of course Kiara's point about their own ability being the thing they can control is valid, but still, who would want to stay quiet and take all the blame when it's actually other people fucking up most of the time?

>>33129421
Sounds like you just have bad taste.

>>33129777
The men are as well.

Sometimes I feel bad for all the shit I talked about Kiara in the past but then I just fap to her nudes and call it a night lol.

>>33129940
>I mean if I had to deal with some bullshit delay for the music video because some RETARDED fucking nigger producer couldn't get his shit together for months
Kiara had Wah Wah World delayed for months because Mori didn't bother to record her lines til a month after she got them

>>33129421
that's literally all of these talents
there's a reason people like irys and enna only peak when they're singing

>>33129922
>Maybe they should have gotten xqc to join.
Yeah you would have loved that

>>33121521
>lets get our shit together
>nooooo, she's siding with the people who harass us
hi deadbeat

>>33129153
Anon that's the point...it was making fun of that retarded shit you KFP faggots kept spamming.

>>33130117
Try saying that without shitting your pants, homobeggar.

>>33120985
Man, I need to watch this shitshow in full.
Holy shit

>>33129639
Are you going to watch her streaming in 1h, so she can prove you wrong?

>>33120985
Praise the Orange Goddess, the savior of Hololive EN.

>>33129777
Not only women. If a coworker shits on our job, we are considering his words, trying to change way we work or learn new thing. After that we go for a beer, understanding that it is nothing personal.
Americans on the other hand, if you criticize them, they are taking it fully personal, thinking that it is because they are 1/27 maorian and 1/8 italian, then due to i security they shoot you and lit up some random school

>>33130155

>>33129947
Apparently my taste is above watching whores

>>33130278
kek

>>33130278
Cope and seethe, homobeggar.

>>33129842
>anything you're defending Kiara's case because she knows the most about being an idol and how her JP senpai do things.
but who wants to be an idol besides Gura? she's just forcing her beliefs on others

>>33128914
the gaslighting begins

>>33121521
Yeah, the same friends that routinely bail on group projects all the time, right?
Kiara is directly complaining about the fact that myth is mostly just a series of guerilla streams

Myth's original song is a fucking meme halloween song for fucks sake, when you have 3 people in myth who are musically inclined.
It's embarrassing compared to blue clapper.

>>33130278
kek saved

>>33130278
Cope and seethe, homobEGGer

>>33130532
>APPLY TO LITERAL IDOL COMPANY
>Nah dude I want to be a whore
They could have applied to fucking vshojo instead. But we both know why they didn't.

>>33130278
Memes are supposed to be funny, like this grude post

>>33130532
Ah yes the skill of being able to be ready a bit earlier than the last second is clearly a skill that is only beneficial for idols...
STFU retard

>>33121075
>>33127106
>>33128587
at least listen to the fucking clip linked, out of everyone Mori is the FIRST to agree with Kiara's point, she only recedes a bit once Gura and Ina mention other people, and even then she mentions it's only "sometimes" but then immediately agrees with Kiara AGAIN that it's mostly on them

>>33130572
Heck it is embarrasing compared to ID

>>33126609
watch the video, shitslinger

>>33130657
36 hours until worms chumpedo

>>33121938
The "20 incels who keep spamming the /vt/ catalog" used to be an entire board of people shitting on her.
You are now the fucking minority and you need to be gatekept out of the hobby.
The tempus collab shit has really revealed awful fans like you that need to be excised like the tumor you are.

You'll honestly take lines like
>girls, we need to improve ourselves first
And think it's some sort of drama line, when it's legitimately the only thing that will save these girls.
HoloEN is fucking lazy, Vesper proved how much viewership you can get if you just work hard.
Mori does NOT work hard on hololive. She works hard on roommate projects that even Kiara dropped because it's a lot less important when your main income is reclining due to your lack of giving a shit about it.

>>33130716
>but then immediately agrees with Kiara AGAIN that it's mostly on them
>cuckbeats are now gaslighting clips that are directly linked in the thread
Not sure if I should be impressed by how bold you fucks are.

>>33122429
ANON IT WAS A GUERILLA COLLAB THAT HAD ZERO PLANNING INTO IT
THE FUCKING ANNIVERSARY

Kiara is the only one trying to save their dying branch

>>33130657
>80% of the pic is wasted space
>apparently this makes it funny
I'd rather have the old format.

>>33130856
>INCELS
>INCELS
>INCELS
>INCELS
>INCELS
The absolute state of homobeggars. Are the incels in the room with us right now?

>>33123014
Kiara's redemption arc started in holofes, she's the only one in myth who still actually tries, the rest just phone it in

>>33123957
Half of those are literally the same people

>>33130278
If you're gonna post awful images at least post tits while you're at it

>>33122010
Kiara was also the one who resolved the whole shadowban shitshow after Mori ignored it fucking up her chat for a year.

>>33130372
If saying that is what helps you cope, Anon.

>>33120985
Damn

>>33125085
>kiara is desperately trying to hold onto her dream job
That's not exactly rocket science buddy, she's not virtue signalling as much as she's calling out EN for being shit, they just had a graduation and the first thing on their minds was male collabs instead of actually making engaging solo content.
All the views the girls have gotten in the past couple of months have all been FOTM streams that are mainly just clipfag borefests

>>33130938
>Kiara is the only one trying to save their dying branch
kek is this really what KFP are telling themselves lately?

>>33130056
Mori was working 3 jobs at the time, Kiara can cry a fucking river

>>33126961
No, all of those girls need to have their ass held to a fire so they can't make these excuses, notice how quickly they recoiled to their common excuses they give to their audience as soon as she said it?
This is why EN has been reclining, Kiara forced it in their face and told the audience they need to hold them to a high standard otherwise girls will just end up like Sana.

>>33131303
>Mori "I learned to drive in a Ferrari" Calliope was working 3 jobs
Imagine believing anything that comes out of her mouth after the revealed that during chadcast, even Bae and Irys were dumbfounded.

>>33130278
kek, incels seething

>>33130997
are homobeggars in the room with us right now?

>>33131375
yes, she made up the JET job, even the fucking record of it that comes on google when you search for her name in the program
or the animated MVs that she's credited on
this is how dumb you fuckers have gotten

>>33131375
you don't watch Mori

>>33131525
And I'm proud of it.

>>33121833
You know, I always used to be a kiara anti because I came into her debut with previous knowledge about her RM and some of the drama around her but lately she's been holding the line on a lot of little things that have been improving my image of her.
Kiara more than any of the other girls, I think, still represents the old-style western otaku mindset with both it's few virtues and it's many flaws.

>>33120985
Time Line of shit Kiara does to make ppl hate her

>Chimkin voice plus bootlegg pekora voice
>TakaMori
>Numberfagg for complaining about being last of Myth to reach 1 mil
>Seething over not being to get cocos reddit meme review

>"Orange woman strong"
>Seething over IRyS debuting during her birthday week lmao
>seething over not wanting a 2nd gen in HoloEN but Council still happens
>MEMEME
>Seething over low views
>Kiara all over Ames chode

did I forget something?

>>33130278
temptrannies seething kek what a flop bitch failed gen

>>33127924
Why would you want to be friends with a bunch of lazy entitled bozos who keep making bank despite doing the least effort possible and treat their fans and Idol culture like shit?

I'd also be outraged at their recent behavior. Gura hardly ever streams, and when she does she's half asleep and unattentive. Ina doesn't hide her disgust of vtuber fans. Mori is openly hostile toward her, vtuber fans and her own fans all the while idolizing ironic grifters like TT. Ame is also a huge contrarian and refuses to do anything for her own fans want so she can do whatever she feels like, which usually entails her playing boring games by herself with no enthusiasm.

She is telling them to their face to get their shit together and stop being so complacent and mediocre. If they get butthurt it's because they are too accustomed to the carefree life, which is only possible thanks to their supporters.
Kiara is always thankful to her fans, the others have become arrogant holier than thou douchebags, except for Gura.

Kiara should graduate and join NijiEN. HoloEN is a sinking ship.

KFP before this pic
>Kiara loves us so much she stalks our twitter activities and can easily remember our pictures
KFP after this pic
>wtf do you expect her to remember some random twitter schizo, do you think she's stalking her fans obsessively?

>>33131788
>seething this hard because she refuses to collab with homos

Eggs general

>>33131829
man, it really shows that KFP follow the "watch only Kiara" bullshit to a T, since most of this shit is pure fanfiction

>>33131997
>until you graduate you donkey
fuck that made me laugh, but fuck KFP two faced faggots just like their oshi.

>>33132199
>>33131997
>screenshotting your own twitter sperging
>replying to your own post

>>33132284
mighty cope, you could be a kekbeat

>>33120985

Crazy how this entirely rightful statement would be written off as schizo, antis, etc. if it wasn't coming from Kiara. I guess that's just the Holofan mindset, ignore obvious problems until you're allowed to acknowledge them.

>whined that making music is hard work and constant problems after a handful of covers and 3 originals
>had to have her Live3D put together by Ame in an improvised studio because she didn't want to invest neither time nor money into existing European studio or her personal setup
>had input on exactly TWO pieces of Hololive merch ever

>saying all that shit in front of Mori, Ame and Ina
kinda funny, if a bit on self-absorbed side

>>33132117
>man, it really shows that KFP follow the "watch only Kiara" bullshit to a T, since most of this shit is pure fanfiction
> most of this shit is pure fanfiction

Elaborate, prove any of it is wrong, come on cuckbeat "enlighten" us with the truth.

The upper heads are faggot jews but what Kiara says is still true, and it'll be more true if the day they become indies again ever comes

I like these kinds of threads, homobeggars and other assorted schizos cannot help but point out exactly who they are.

>>33131252
japs see male collabs as an Cover attempt catalysm to boost the EN branch, and get new viewers, they believe the en branch is reclining besides Gura. though they also think it's a risk move to alienate old viewers and they become inverse antis

>>33132658
Funny how you point out Mori when she's the the one who sided with Kiara

>>33130278
Honestly you're proving him right, not a KFP, Kiara is 100% right that EN needs to get their shit together because even indies are getting better numbers than them right now

>>33130278
>all the replies laughing at this are Homotrannies

>>33120985
At a certain point you just need to know when to fold 'em and accept when your coworkers just don't care about the gen or the job. Gura had the right idea with snot. Rather than continuing to try to force things after 2 years of myth being a shitshow, it's time to just focus on finding new cliques and forming new impromptu units. Holomyth is basically dead.

>>33132658
euro studios quoted her 6 figures

homobeggars keep crying

>>33120985
lol sounds like this but with people talking in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv61yEcOqpw

>>33121847
yet you don't watch her because she's annoying lol

>>33135306
>>33135588
kek keep seething