/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33088529
They hosted the collab in the whore's channel

Gura herself said it was disappointing

You fell for the ccv meme since The VOD will get more views than Council which is only sitting at 380k views after over 3 weeks.

>>33088529
So people who have been shitting on Council are insecure Mythfags who know they're losing relevancy and are desperately trying to bring others down?

>>33088529
Mori slowly undermining Hololive to be more like vshojo and Niji. Amelia and Ina ouright hating their fans. Gura barely streaming. Kiara being Kiara and demanding the do it in a bad timeslot that suits her better

>>33088529
-Watson Debuff
-2 hours before NA primetime
-Takamori already had their own anniversary

>>33088529
Mori collab

>>33088529
These idiots still think that the majority of their fanbase uses twitter. Which they don’t. At most Gura gets 30k likes on her twitter which isn’t shit compared to her vod views on YouTube. So how the f do they expect their fanbase to check out the collab when these idiots don’t even grt in touch with us.

>>33088529
Myth is winding down. Less to talk about, less amazing things, more complacency in content, more distance between girls

In essence, the magic is dissipating

>>33088529
>Gura's 20k viewers plus another 10k split between the other 4
They literally threw everything they had to those low quality models

As a group Council is more interesting. Even if Myth is still bigger, council is the glue that makes the EN collabs interesting.
Hell, they've even going after ID rather than making Myth relevant to collabs again

>>33089160
Why should they?
Ina is distant
Gura is an island, only really opening up to Mumei
Mori torched Kronii to cinders with the male collab
Kiara is Kiara
Ame barely does collabs, and when she does its "Experience a losing streak with Amelia Watson"

>>33089160
Council are good sidekicks for myth, but they can’t hold a conversation between the 4/5 of them alone.

Dead branch

>>33088529
Invested too much on the 360 but forgot to make it an interesting stream

>>33088529
Gura is the 5th council.

>>33089337
I love this relic

>>33089286
Eh, I like the Council dynamics. Bae and Fauna both bounces off really well with Kronii while Mumei makes incomprehensible noises

>>33088529
1st year anniversary is a bigger milestone than 2nd year. And Sana being featured in the picture was clickbait

>>33088652

Why are they still doing these shitty VR streams does anyone even enjoy them?

>>33088567
it wasn't on gura's channel

>>33088529
Myth is shit.

>>33089343
This

>>33088529
I'm not subbing to Watson's channel, so no point watching it live

>>33088529
the 2022 holoen burnout happen. why would i care about your lazy ass whore who didnt even care to do the bare minimum of shit people would expect of a professional streamer when my boy regis fucking altare did 3x of their average output without even trying? fuck en girl man.. if they rather do anything than fucking stream i would rather gag on homos cock. fuck. them. i have had enough of this shit.

>>33088529
Sana

>>33088652
At least myth lost their relevance, council never had that opportunity since they were born irrelevant

>>33088529
Goslingniggers left Ame

Not watching Ame's channel after she gave the finger to her fans with the male collab push. (former member even though she wasn't my ohsi)

>>33089644
>would rather gag on homo cock
I don’t like lazy streamers either anon, but thats no reason to go full faggot.

>Doesn't stream
>Antisocial Autist
>Worst voice in EN
>Hates her fans
>Mori
What a gen folks!

>>33088529
it happened you didn't hit that concrete hard enough when you were a toddler, numbernigger

>>33088529
I refuse to watch anything with Mori in it or give Ame views. Simple as.

Both Ame is Mori are on my ignore list so I just missed it and i heard nothing ahead of time from any of the other girls channels

>>33088817
Some of these absolute retards refuse to put updates or schedules in their community tabs. It's ridiculous

>>33090002
based.

>>33088529
I'm seeing barely any difference, unless the problem is the lack of growth

>>33090493
oh wait I'm retarded, I just looked at the numbers and thought you were comparing their first anniversary to the second one

>>33090493
Myth used to absolutely mog Council 6 weeks after they debuted and their collab buffs ended.
Council beating Myth is unheard of.

>>33090580
judging from the responses, it's clearly the fault of the fans.

>>33089883
fuck cgdct man.. after watching tempiss i realize that what i needed is brotherhood and comaraderie, not cgdct bullshit. myth is an absolute social retard, fuck myth, council is a lot better but still is below tempuss in any way shape or form. for jp side, fuck them too, i prolly needed a few dedicated month to learn jp enough to understand them but i would rather do something else desu. i as a fucking indog actually hate id, dont fucking ask abt it. where the fuck did i needed to go to sate my desire then?

>>33088529
>Bae and Ame
HoloEn leaders debuff

>>33090815
A gay bathhouse?

>>33090815
Nijisanji I guess
HoloEN is bleeding audience
Thanks Mori, Ame, Omega

>>33090037
Same. I have them both blocked on twatter and aren't subscribed to either, obviously.

>>33090815
you are gay

>>33090002
based

>>33090815
Your gay kek

>>33089548
Exactly, Gura isn't a whore.

>>33088529
male collab

>>33088529
Sana graduated

>>33088529
I improved myself and blocked her channel.

>>33088529
they got their 3d models, what else is in store for them now. Nothing, the magic's over, show's done.

>>33089271
Kiara's hours are the real isolating factor, and will continue to be really. It's something she could technically change if she wanted, she just doesn't wanna.

>Not advertised, in none of the girls schedule (because most of them don't have schedule or their schedule don't go to monday)
>Shitty timeslot, because Kiara can't sacrifice her precious sleep
>Shitty gimmick
No secret

>>33092346
Okay, remove Kiara of the equation, how often do the rest of Myth collab together ?

Council is better than Myth, that's what happened.

>>33088529
this
>>33092236

if it wasn't on Ame's channel I would have watched.

>>33088529
Tempus has more chemistry than Myth and Council

https://streamable.com/2ag4n0

>>33092514
I have no idea why this triggers people. You don’t have to watch them or even prefer them over HoloEN to admit that they have better chemistry, because chemistry between genmates isn’t everything anyway.

>>33089031
Shit sucks man

>>33092681
>You don’t have to watch them
Ok.

I imagine management keeps Gura on a tight leash. She's their golden goose, number 1 top vtuber in the world based on subs, she must never be allowed to have a yab so the scope of her streams must be very tight and controlled. Must be pretty enervating based on her roommate's previous content. Amelia definitely is feeling the burnout, anyone with half a brain can read that one. Calli is focusing more and more on her musical career and has basically embraced that she enjoys hanging out with the boys more. Kiara still plugging away at the idol grind, and still completely isolated from the rest of Myth because of it. And Ina is uhh, Ina I guess. Perhaps the most frictionless popular vtuber I've ever seen, she's got that tomorrow meme and coomers obsessing over her ass and that's about it after 24 months.

>>33090002
dangerously based

>>33090002
Correct.

>>33088529
I watched the first 5 minutes and saw how Gura was avoiding the group. She couldn't stand them. Everyone feels the tension.

>>33090002
>>33092236
Based.

>>33088567
Fpbp

It’s on Amelia Whoreson ch
Easy skip

>>33088529
Council knows that most people are at NA primetime, so they do the fucking stream at NA primetime so everyone can watch it. If they decide to make a stream at that random hour where only takos are awake so the poor Kiara doesn't get eye bags, it's their problem. Plus, the only one advertising the stream were Ame and Mori, the others don't make schedules and tweeted 15 mins before the stream, the one that moves the most people has been radio silent for weeks because she's depressed and promoting more her own projects than the anniversary that she just talked one time for 4 secs.

That was the shit that happened, 0 hype and bad time management, I've seen people that didn't even knew that the stream was today. Council anniversary was indirectly advertised by Sana's graduation and the stream was like a fucking funeral to her, viewers wanted to see Sana's ashes dumped in the sea and they got that. All of them are retardeds and Ame should stop paying things for them to see what happens when she's not doing all the work at special dates, but just an "Ame pls" will brainwash her to spend all her money on them

>>33092681
>You don’t have to watch them
Then why you faggots keep begging for collabs

>>33093906
>All of them are retardeds and Ame should stop paying things for them to see what happens when she's not doing all the work at special dates, but just an "Ame pls" will brainwash her to spend all her money on them
Litteraly anything would have been better than another shitty VR chat stream.

>>33093943
We don't. The voices in your head tell you that retard

>>33088529
I skipped the stream just because it's streamed on Ame's channel. Not going to give her even a single sec of my watch time. I'll gladly be a clipfag for this one.

>>33093943
Any collab begging going on here is very obviously false flagging to dupe farm fresh rubes like you. If collabs happen, that's up to them, I'm not going to ask for any because I would rather watch solo streams.

>>33088529
Fucking Botan's birthday stream got 70k+ a week ago, how is en so irrelevant in comparison? They should have global appeal yet they still fail to maintain an audience past the honeymoon phase, it's genuinely pathetic.

>>33088529
Too early, chose EU time vs Asia. Lots of fans in Asia

>>33090002
I hate gura's teeth in that pic

>>33088624
>Vod cope
lol

>>33094285
You don't like that she has one massive incisor?

>>33094239
>EU time
Middle of the night is not a good time

>>33088529
The size of the HoloEN fanbase is insanely exaggerated by this board. At the end of the day Hololive's main branch is the main draw and close to three quarters of its fanbase is Japanese.

>>33089644
kys homobeggar

>>33094566
Do you send akasupas and 50 memberships? If you do those everyday maybe I'll do it.

>>33088529
No one gave a fuck so fans stopped giving a fuck.

>>33089548
Council's was hosted on Bae. So council fags clearly don't care as much as Myth fags. Emblematic of myth's troubles. They're all at each other's throats to the point that people would not watch the anniversary if it's held on someone's channel they don't like.

The solution to Myth is to start graduating bitches until they start streaming or making music more.

>>33090002
Fuckin' cringe

>>33088529
council had the "sana is dying" buff

>>33089337
It was fun to use it on Ragnarok and make a mess out of the farming spots

>>33090002
Based, those three plus Mumei and Fauna, and you have the perfect holoEN plus IRyS

>>33088529
EN vtubing is dying while JP is still going strong. That's a good thing.

>>33090002
Based, you can always rely on the Holo Trinity to carry Myth.

I'm so fucking sick of off-site niggers trying to drive a wedge in the holo community

>>33090002
Since when are orange woman, alcohol addict and NEET making ching videogame arts viewed as the best vtubers of myth?

>>33088529
Maybe annihilating your fanbase for the sake of shilling the homoshit wasn't a good idea after all, thats just gura + 10k ccv, kek

>>33089031
Yeah, they dont believe in themselves anymore
They just want to squeeze some buck before leaving
>Luckily I dropped them once the Homos announced
I'm on full JP Paradise and cannot be more happier

ENfags coping hardcore in this thread

>>33096502
Since the others became male accessories.

>>33094185
>>33094534
>>33095442
Remember when faggots kept spamming about how JP vtubing was oversaturated and dying and how EN were the new top dogs? Good times. I wonder what they're doing nowadays.

>>33088529
Males happened. HoloEN has lost all its appeal as a group. There is nothing to celebrate anymore. Kiara, Gura, and Ina can only be appreciated as individuals.

It's about to pass Council's anni in views lmao
Its shorter and 1 month behind, despite that, it'll still mog Council

>>33098167
VIEWS DON'T COUNT YOU FUCKING TEAKEK
STREAMERS MAEK MONEY WITH CCV, NOT WITH VIEWS

>>33098167
And there we go, CCV dopamine poisoned idiots don’t understand that views are what prints money on YT.

>>33098207
Actually, its the opposite
YouTube pays streamers by VOD views, not by CCV

>>33088624
That's not a very high bar, anon.

>>33098207
>>33098222
The fucking layers of duality between these two posts

>>33093906
>Blaming Kiara for shitty time schedule when she just did a 12 hour marathon stream poving she has no issue streaming a celebration at NA primetime
Eggs truly are pathetic creatures. Sorry to break it to you but Kiara is not to blame for every problem in the world.

>>33098286
Neither is Mori or Tempus but I haven’t seen you guys stop on that front

Tempus ruined EN but that pill is too tough to swallow for some

>>33098248
well the bar is cleared within 24 hours so

>>33088529
It's called the "Amelia Watson Debuff' and get ready because it's all downhill from here. I'm so fucking glad. I hope Ame is SEETHING and I hope she knows that she's a stupid whore. Gura needs to figure out an avenue of survival or the other girls are going to drag her into the dirt. Not that she doesn't deserve it but you know, is Gura

>>33098434
See:
>>33098167

>>33095442
That's because it's infested with males. With a few small exceptions the EN corpos failed to notice that vtubing is about separating girls from males. The males can earn a few bucks on their own, but mixing them together is like mixing ice cream with roast beef.

>>33098434
>seethe
I'm sorry to tell you this anon but she doesn't care about you. And don't drag my oshi into this

>>33098497
Lmfao she's been such a downer since this all started. I don't care if she doesn't care about me because she's not my fucking wife. Your oshi is to BLAME I didn't drag her into it

>>33088529
Myth and Council were failed hires. The entirety of EN rode the wave created by JP. In reality, EN management are complete imbeciles who squandered good fortune like an inbred third-generation potato.

>>33098115
This has been happening for a while already, probably a little over a year. The EN audience is just too volatile when compared to the JP funnily enough. They don't have the same dedication to watch streams, probably because a huge part of it got to know Hololive through clips and they never graduated from that to become regular viewers, and those who were at the start ended up dropping for one reason or another. I wouldn't say it was due to lack of consistence because people like Ayame and Shion managed to keep a decent viewership (higher than almost all EN members) while being essentially semi-retired, and Gura is also on a similar situation and is the only member who has a shot at competing with the JP members, but she does struggle a little bit. Maybe the novelty of anime girl playing games is starting to wear off in the west, maybe the decentralized nature of EN is their biggest enemy due to timezone differences and the lack of offline interaction between members, maybe it's a combination of all those issues.

>>33095442
Only hololive. Vshojo and Niji are inclining overall. The west prefers whores. The market is speaking. Seiso idols can't maintain an audience. Iron Mouse is the Queen of English vtubing now.

>>33098552
>t.teakek
So you really know more about Ame than Gura huh

>>33096502
My inner is both educated and employed

>>33098621
You are a literal retard and I will not engage with you any further, cuckmate.

>>33088529
Mori-Kiara-Ame-Ina happened.

>>33098782
>I'm so fucking glad. I hope Ame is SEETHING and I hope she knows that she's a stupid whore.
>I don't care if she doesn't care
>b-baka don't talk to me anymore
I don't know what your engame was, but it's pathetic. My nutsack on your nose and don't use Gura's name for your shitposting.

>>33098341
You do realise we're not a hivemind? Addressing my point with 'but mori' is irrelevant.
Saying that Mori has at least earned her hate even if it is slightly excessive. I don't even hate her but if I have to hear her shitty Japanese stock phrase gag or the same sodding shrek reference one more time I swear to god

>>33094566
why would i beg for my boy to collab with your lazy ass whore? what can they give to tempuss except for views provided by the low iq trash of a fanbase that the girls bring? the girl cant play game, they cant banter, they arent cute even. why cant they collab with each other? there is almost a dozen of them, even the id girl can speak english, how about jp? oh wait, your lazy ass oshi cant even speak nip! what a patethic piece of shit, 'i wanna learn japanese so i can collab with my senpai~' my ass.. its not my fault that your oshi would rather suck regis fucking altares cock than collab with other girls. its not my fault that your oshi so fucking lazy they hardly improve their jap after 2 fucking years, making them so starved for collab partner so much so they do rather suck regis fucking altare dick.

>>33089337
Fpbp (Fourteenth post best post)

>>33091604
>>33091526
yes i am now.. believe me when i say that i dont wanna be gay, if i can choose i wanna enjoy my oshi again like the old time when they still care. everyday i would go outside my workplace, enjoying some solitude with a cup of coffe and a cigs, the thoughts of my oshi streaming later that day give me hope that in this boring normalcy we call living there is something worth hoping for, something fun, until i finally home and found out that my oshi didnt stream for 5 days in a row and when she do stream, WBAM!! a fucking minecraft stream... fuck me dude. fuck. me

>>33097462
>>33090002
Ina had a Hologra with Shien & Kiara had a collab with Gigguk though.

>>33088529
People just watched it later?

>>33100155
WAU what a great improvement in one year. People are clearly so excided to turn in whenever the girls feel like to stream.

>>33088567
FPBP

>>33090002
/thread

>>33100080
They were Professional about it.

It's about to pass Council's anni in views
COUNCIL MOGGED

>>33100669
By hiding it away from their paypigs instead of being open to their fans about it weeks before?

>>33095288
It's fun to see GDCT
It's fun to see GDCT

They have everything for young men to enjoy.
Come hang out with the gachikois.

Myth collab was up against the NijiEN offcollab which had 21k viewers. Probably the reason it was lower.

>>33090002
Based beyond belief

>>33092681
>You don’t have to watch them
No problem.
Kindly go tell every faggot over at /mans/ to stop fucking shilling and begging then

>>33090815
I'm sorry anon it must have been hard for a faggot to live in ID
>fuck cdgct
The exit door is right over there

>>33100877
Lmao I forgot a C

>>33100669
Can you elaborate on how ame and mori were unprofessional

>>33092681
It's insane how you beggars keep forcing tempus into threads discussing the girls

>>33088529
One year anniversaries are more relevant and this one was conditioned to by the departure of Sana.

>>33088652
>Acting like Council is about to overtake Myth or something

Missed the stream due to reasons. How was it? Just more VR stuff? I heard they didn't even use their official models.

>>33101760
They didn't do it because someone paid them to, they did it to:
> 1) be friendly with them and form bonds
> 2) own the "parasocial" fans

>>33101857
already did, outside of Gura who is basically council as of late.

>>33090815
I would have still called you faggot during moe vs GAR. Men should not be underperforming in any circumstance.

>>33092346
>Kiara's hours are the real isolating factor, and will continue to be really. It's something she could technically change if she wanted, she just doesn't wanna.

Obviously we need more Hololive members from the EU so they can hang out with Kiara at appropriate times.

I cannot believe that HoloEN had everything and threw it away.

They had the EN audience by the balls, yet they failed to stomp out LazuLight and gave Nijisanji the space they needed to start accelerating. They have better models and riggers, but wasted them on Council members who barely stream, and IRyS who was abandoned almost immediately. They had a chance to make their OWN Luxiem, but wasted it with shit designs, and put the boys in an awkward situation where they had to rattle the Holo-Hornet's nest to get collabs.

A collective 10 million subs and they were only able to get 10K more live viewers for an anniversary than fucking Petra playing 1-2 Switch on her channel a few hours earlier.

Tribalfaggotry ONLY exists and thrives because Hololive got complacent and continuously let their competition eat away at them. Fans of other companies should NEVER have had an opening to be tribalistic after 2020.

people realised that council are better entertainers than myth. Even gura has been pretty much a council recently and has been hanging out with fauna/mumei. Good for her, being able to realise that myth is a dying gen and moving over to council.

>>33101550
That's the fun part, we don't. >>33085456
Anyone shilling them is a falseflagger

>>33102105
Nah I reckon people who have a fetish for sadness (which most Holobronies do) watched Council because they wanted to see what was said about Sana.

>>33101857
Council has been mogging all of myth bar gura and ina for the past few months. Ina herself is pretty much equal ccv wise to fauna and mumei.

>>33102178
its true though, council are better entertainers than all of myth except for gura.

>>33088529
Myth is a dying gen. Gura realised this and moved on to snot. Ina is just doing her own thing and getting numbers like usual. The other 3 are lost causes.

>>33102137
Imagine thinking all of the homofaggots are in /mans/ or even care about what they have to say, your small community may avoid begging, but they as a whole beg and attack anyone who don't want it like they were proposing slavery or something.

>>33102322
Kiara is also stable, not going down like ame and Mori.

So are NijiEN and small corpos slowly eating into Myth's audience? Or is EN vtubing just declining as a whole?

>>33102364
EN audience is going back to JP because holoEN want to be normal streamers and not idols, normal streamers compete with normal streamers and their viewers don't get as attatched.

>>33102356
>stable
>literally zero'd on subs for a month
>even haachama is about to pass her
Ame is keeping her 6K average, while Kiara and Mori are in the shitter

It’s a job and none of them like this anniversary and special event shit

>>33102500
>Gura streams:4
>Ina streams:5
>mumei streams:5
why are all the heavy hitters of holoEN so lazy? Fauna is the only one getting good numbers and still putting in the work. Bae has had a good month so far.

>>33102500
Ame is also on the triple 0 for the month in sub count, at least compare the same stat.
Kiara CCV is the same as always has no drop at all and Ame has been dropping for a long time, she only get numbers on Rust nowadays because of what? chance for interaction with Gura and holoJP, literally carried by idols. Let's see her numbers after her retarded worms collab.

>>33102691
Ame retained 6K for a whole year already, history-revisionist chama
Its literally hard data
The only ones reclining like crazy here are Kiara and Mori

>>33102500
>thinks she had zero new subs for a month
>thinks subs even matter
You can't really be this stupid, can you?

>>33092349
>Shitty timeslot, because Kiara can't sacrifice her precious sleep

>>33088529
Only Gura and Ina are good Holos. Thats what happened.

>>33102769
>Ame retained 6K for a whole year already, history-revisionist chama
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1477112893632319489
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1477112893632319489
Kiara had a 5K average for all of 2021 and she still have a 5K average, Ame had a 7k average in 2021, she's falling on 6K.

>>33103127
It's clearly the case, people denying it are just puffing copium for Ame's sake.

>>33103127
You posted the same tweet twice. I’m assuming that was just a typo

>>33103511
Yeah, I meant to post
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1565204928527990784/photo/1
Which are the 2022 average from January to August, but since the guy is already aware that Ame have a 6K average right now, there wasn't much point in correcting myself anyway

>>33102325
They are, you are just seething mad that you can't get them out of your head so you see them everywhere they aren't. Tempus Derangement Syndrome to the max.

The honeymoon is finally over
>If you want somebody who streams there is NijiEN
>If you want somebody who will actually read your chat messages there are 2-3 views
>If you want idols there is HoloJP

>>33103645
fuck off stealth nijipusher faggot

>>33103644
They are what /mans/ are the entire homo fanbase? in what planet do you live?

>>33103644
>Tempus Derangement Syndrome
>TDS unironically back but in vtuber form
I hate this board yet it still finds ways to amaze me

>>33098286
Her 12 hour marathon started around JP hours and ended around the same hour that the anniversary started (EU and takos), that's not NA primetime of viewers you fucking retard. It's not my fault that your chicken always makes other people wake up for her, but she never does that for other people. Understandable because the real NA hours are fucked up for her, but then don't ask why people are "not participating in the conversation" or not asking her for collabs if they have to wake up "early" for her. Ask cover for a EU holo to make her happy

>>33103703
>Originally mentions the anons in /mans/
>Projects afterwards saying anons outside of /mans/ when your original argument was about the ones in /mans/
Next time, specify correctly, or gtfo.

>>33104001
>makes other people wake up for her
3PM to 7PM is considered morning now ? If any NA holos did a Kiara collab in JP primetime, you might have a point, but this isn't a thing. Kiara time are afternoon for NA. NA times are in the middle of the night for Kiara.

>>33104062
I can already see him moving the goalpost again

>>33104062
that guy wasn't even me, my first post was this
>>33102325

Simple. Have you ever heard of CCVID?

>>33090002
holy based
same, i cant stand pink woman and le trashy creatividad

>>33105446
The point is they're getting mogged by council, CCVID literally doesn't matter here. Both council and myth are getting culled.

>>33105446
Cope, this shouldn't lose to Brain games if Gura herself was there, ame channel is poison.

>>33104798
So you're replying without reading the reply chain and looking like a retard in the process, got it.

>>33105446
Cope. Lost to council anniversary, big brain games, council big smols, some myth off collabs, and almost lost to fucking mumei gura room review. Myth is reclining.

I think it's sana. her being gone hyped up council. people were probably tuning in to see tributes or even her returning for a minute.

>>33096502
For orange woman? She always was. It just took a long time for people to appreciate her. Some are still blind to the truth. She’s the one true idol of EN.

Eh, maybe Fauna too.

>>33088529
The 360 view was a terrible idea + the low video quality

>>33090002
Based
Based
Based
Based

>>33105446
Yeah, they wouldn't shut up about it for nearly 3 years now
8 rushed-out boosters by Orange Man, that Dementia Grandpa is forcing on you for some reason, and it's still not gone

>>33105816
that was true for the big smol collab which also had irys.
theres no excuse to lose to council anniversary with no irys and less graduation buff. Council also had a shitty anniversary and showed most stuff they had prepared in the big smol collab.

better companies with more entertaining talents happened
you know which one

>>33102137
>if i said i won't do this, then i do it anyway, i can't be blamed anymore
fucking retard

>>33106093
>with no irys
That's a major buff, actually

>>33106175
Tempus Derangement Syndrome detected

>>33106113
>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER
1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)
2. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)
3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)
5. Vox (Nijisanji) – 25,137 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 (Plants vs. Zombies)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
8. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 (Unarchived Karaoke)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 12,053 (RUST)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)
12. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,560 (Holocure: Save the Fans)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 10
Nijisanji - 2
Others - 0
nice try nijifag

>>33089429
I never get it when I actually need it...

Does anyone actually like watching Myth collab at this point? If you are a fan of Mori your favorite group is CHAD. If you're a fan of Gura, you're a fan of SNOT. And then if you're a fan of the other three, you probably hate any collab that has Mori or Kiara in it. Even if they don't hate each other, their fans definitely hate each other.

>>33106376
>Even if they don't hate each other
oh trust me, they definitely hate each other.

>>33106274
Bae inclining!

>>33106436
She's currently losing an head to head against fucking Kiara, anon.

>>33106274
oh and in case you pull out the holocure buff bullshit
>EN GOLD FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)
14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)
15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)
16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)
18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,483 (Rust)
20. Amelia (Hololive) - 13,706 (Rust)
21. Baelz (Hololive) - 21,713 (Urban Dictionary Game Show w/Gura, Mumei, and Kronii)
22. Gura (Hololive) - 20,498 (Rust)
23. Baelz (Hololive) - 36,453 (Council 1st Anniversary Celebration w/Kronii, Mumei, and Fauna)
24. Kronii (Hololive) - 13,888 (Rewatching Debut)
25. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 43,075 (New outfit reveal)
26. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,467 (12 hour anniversary celebration)
27. Rosemi (Nochairsanji) - 40,274 (New outfit Reveal)
28. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 35,293 (Nochairsanji International Karaoke Relay)
29. Gura (Hololive) - 21,728 (Minecraft Hololive Summer Festival)
30. Selen (Nochairsanji) - 51,520 (New Outfit Reveal)
31. Mori (Hololive) - 11,227 (Rust)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 21
Nochairsanji - 10
Others - 0

not even close even with the outfit reveals

>>33106656
>51520 views in 30th place
>14137 in 1st place
hmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>33106829
It's a list of the biggest EN stream for each day of August, anon.

>>33106656

>/#/fags think that their shitty e-medals are a good metric of determining overall company trends.

Neck yourself.

>>33106964
that anon is retarded, but can you explain this?

>>33092346
the only reason her CCV and SCs are steady, therefore not loosing any viewers within the past year, is only because she keeps streaming during the EU hours
She would be completely retarded if she dropped her loyal viewerbase for the bigger market in the US, because she would also need to compete with everyone else and has to build up a new viewership from scratch
The "EU debuff" is the best way for her to go in the long term
Most of her biggest superchatters are german speaking and absolute loyal to her

>>33107105
I can. It looks like the result of someone not actually watching the streams they make graphs about.

>>33106908
>ordering it such that the 51k stream is at the bottom and the 14k stream is at the top
7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)
30. Selen (Nochairsanji) - 51,520 (New Outfit Reveal)
25. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 43,075 (New outfit reveal)
27. Rosemi (Nochairsanji) - 40,274 (New outfit Reveal)
14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)
23. Baelz (Hololive) - 36,453 (Council 1st Anniversary Celebration w/Kronii, Mumei, and Fauna)
28. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 35,293 (Nochairsanji International Karaoke Relay)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)
13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
29. Gura (Hololive) - 21,728 (Minecraft Hololive Summer Festival)
21. Baelz (Hololive) - 21,713 (Urban Dictionary Game Show w/Gura, Mumei, and Kronii)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)
22. Gura (Hololive) - 20,498 (Rust)
26. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,467 (12 hour anniversary celebration)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
24. Kronii (Hololive) - 13,888 (Rewatching Debut)
15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)
20. Amelia (Hololive) - 13,706 (Rust)
18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,483 (Rust)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
31. Mori (Hololive) - 11,227 (Rust)
Here you go, faggot.

>>33107514
someone has never been on /#/ before i guess, don't blame you, that place is reclining ever since luxiem debuted

>>33106829
why do you think there are 31 "places" listed you moron?

>>33107854
Because it's a deadbeat trying to prove Mori is still relevant by including her in the top streams of the month

>>33102590
>why do the heavy hitters of holoEN steam less?
So people don’t get bored of their content?

"i AM tales"

...ok Kiara

>>33102183
Uff, really?
I haven't been paying attention outside of watching Gura.
How could that happen?

>>33108899
its been that way for awhile now. Gura, ina, mumei and recently fauna have been top 4 numbers wise with the latter 3 being interchangeable for the past few months.

>>33092966
>And Ina is uhh, Ina I guess. Perhaps the most frictionless popular vtuber I've ever seen

The same Ina that has called her own audience a bunch of weeb losers while collabing with Calli. And then made the most arrogant non-apology the day after in the most condescending way humanly possible. The Ina that despises her fans and so far up her own ass that she's drowning in her own ink?

>>33098494
>mixing ice cream with roast beef.
That's actually apparently a thing in Iowa, but instead of ice cream it's mashed potatoes made to look like it

>>33109159
t. deadbeat

>>33108998
Damn that may put male collbs on a different light.
Maybe it is a move done in desperation.

>>33109449
don't forget mumei is a whore and has done a male collab as well

>>33088612
shedidnt

>>33089160
This is definitely where Council outshines myth. The whole chemistry between Kronii, Fauna and Mumei what made me watch them at the first place while I was not into watching streams before. Myth does/did have their moments too but they have not been as fun to watch as council collabs. SNOT collabs are great fun too as Gura fits in with them better. If i am not mistaken Calli, Kiara and Ame (not sure about Ina) are all a bit older than Gura, maybe that's why she has better energy with council girls who are younger too?

>>33102590
Because you dont have to stream to make shitload of money. Ask Ayame.

It's because Gura doesn't stream and never talks about anniversary stuff. And the details of the stream is not described by Ame until probably right before the day it's supposed to air. No one got the memo.
Not that there's any urgency to watch it live anyway since the stream quality sucks balls and is best seen on mobile devices

>>33088567
Ame isn't a whore anon.

>>33092514
I haven't watched tempus outside of a few clips but i believe you. Guys with good chemistry is just so much more fun to watch entertainment wise than girls. I think people just watch the girls for a different reason.

>>33110319
from the stories fauna tells she's probably late 20s. mumei and kronii are middle 20s, same with gura. Not sure about the myth members. I think calli and kiara are abit older than the rest.

>>33088529
EN fanbase has been progressively culled over the past two years through a series of events. Occasionally it will get a temporary boost from a notable event but this trend isn't new. The heyday of overseas fanbase's impact on Hololive was Fall 2020 and its been downhill ever since. Give another couple years with this trend continuing and I'm sure Cover will forego any further expansions of new EN gens or not bother to ever open a ES branch or anything of that nature.

>>33110771
Kiara is late 20s (from RM stream), Calli seems mod or late 20s too.

>>33088529
>Half the year none of them but Kiara streamed consistently and for the first 6 months of this year you would usually get maybe 2 streams at most a day.
>Everyone barely did karaokes and watch a longs anymore
>Mori Lean yab made some people lose the magic and leave
>Mumei off collab plan ruined the first off collab being all myth
>Airbnb yab
>Cliques forming
>Sana graduating
>The Tempus arc of forcing Tempus down their fans throat leading to fans watching them and jumping ship to be a Tempus fan or being mad because Hololive is now Nijisanji
A bunch more but those are the most obvious. Wasn't just one thing but several things that took bites out of the fandom leading to less and less people sticking around.

>>33090002
was not expecting to come into this thread and see a post this based

>>33088529
>It's already been two years
Holy fuck, I cannot stand with the passage of time since quarantine started
Why did things just stop progressing like they used to

>>33111935
>implying the quarantine made a difference
fucking normalfags

>>33111681
And these are just the 2022 culls, on top of the events that blunted things in the prior two years.

>>33111935
Because she stated streaming once a week

>>33109159
dark ina is so hot

>>33103645
or you can watch Kiara and have all of those

>>33110624
I recommend reps

>>33088567
/thread

>>33090002
This, i would have watched it on gura or kiara's channel

>>33088529
I unsubbed from ame weeks ago and didnt even see it pop up in my recommended

>>33111681
I think it was more people getting tired if Mori's personality than one singular event

>>33112287
It kinda accelerated the totalitarian trend towards globalism tho.

>>33090002
Literally me. Very based, anon. Very based.

>>33113017
Not gonna deny it, but thats a different point.

My first time here, surprised by some of the view points. Especially the Mori and Ame hate but being European I never really see them stream. What did they do?

>>33113427
both of them are not interested in conforming to jp-style idol culture which causes a lot of people here to either pretend to or actually throw a tantrum because they actually have an emotional investment in some of these girls instead of just considering them entertainment.

>>33103644
Anyone or group who tries to bring back TDS as a term but repurpose it for their new thing is a colossal faggot and the only thing gayer than you saying it about them is if they said it about themselves.
Its not 2016, Please kys and protect the rest of us from your faggotry

>>33102425
On the contrary, I went back to JP because they're better streamers than EN. I couldn't care less about idol shit.

>>33113965
JP style idol culture is a hundred times more entertaining than whatever EN wants to be.
Check the official channel and check any of those scripted skit videos, they are also part of "idol culture", you know it isn't just about concerts right?
And this is an EN problem, even the fucking IDs have something in their official channel, the EN channel only has incredibly shitty shorts and the yearly forced gen song

>>33098434
gura did figure it out. she's learning JP and she's going to move to JP and just stream as much JP as possible. That's how she keeps a vtubing career alive.

>>33089644
I was with you until you brought up your "boy" Regis. Tempus is not for males, stop being a faggot.

The only likeable Myth member is Gura and her collabs with Council members are better than collabs with the other people from Myth. There is no reason to want to watch something where you have to put up with those other four whores.

>>33114728
mumei, gura and fauna are 100% confirmed whores as well though......

>>33114786
the only non whores are men

>>33088817
Holofans rarely use twitter compared to Nijifans since they’re all Asian

>>33110771
Kiara is 27. Going back to the original post I doubt anybody is significantly older than Gura.

Anyone get the impression that the Myth girls don't like each other behind the scenes? I feel Calli disliked Kiara, but Kiara liked Calli and then realised Calli didn't like her. Also I get the impression Gura doesn't like any of them but that mostly her being a bitch.

>>33088567
Fpbp

>>33115000
gura is 23 and mooms is 24, bae might be younger than both though

>>33115017
Same but slightly different take. Gura and Kiara are the two who are somewhat capable of going with the flow of being well known streamers, but Kiara is hampered with neurotic episodes that stop them from reaching high heights. On top of this while they may be able to work together the other three retards absolutely tank all the energy in the room and I would not surprise if they are extremely catty off stream.

>>33114467
Even the Stars have something like that. I don't get why it's that hard for EN to make a scheduled show, and it doesn't even need to be more than once per month. Sometimes it feels like it's not just some of the girls, the EN management as a whole wants to do things as different from the JP side as possible, but in the process they end up doing fuck all.

Myth is just a group of strangers, there's no unity at all.

Feels like Holo JP Gen 1.

>>33116794
>, the EN management as a whole wants to do things as different from the JP side as possible, but in the process they end up doing fuck all.
It's actually funny that you worded it that way, can't go into detail but "doing fuck all" is an understatement
Considering our MR department did 99% of the work i don't want to think how they are treating these girls kek

>>33120964
We do have an idea. The long times to get permissions compared to the other branches, the lack of an actual producer figure that helps with big events like how A-chan does for JP, IRyS everything stuck in a limbo and apparently not being allowed to have other members work with her on her songs (I don't have a source for this one, I only read it on a really old /HiRyS/ thread from I believe last December). And when they do it it's not actually for the good, like how Tempus was over managed during their first month with fixed schedules and stream time. EN management puzzles me deeply and I wonder where EN would be right now if they had people that think more like the management of the other branches.

>>33088529
I was too busy watching Tempus sims 4 shenanigans.

People are starting to realize they have options.
Why watch myth when you can watch someone that will actually understands and caters to their fans instead of constantly picking fights with them?

EN are just the background characters of hololive. why so many posts in this thread

>>33088529
myths 2nd year anniversary was really fucking boring

>>33088567
Truth

>>33088624

>>33088567
I thought ame was considered a bitch not a whore. What does she do thats whorish

>>33088670
>Amelia and Ina ouright hating their fans
examples of this?

>>33127178
Organize a collab with tempiss and leave spots open for retards to pressure other girls into joining

>>33121381
With the Tempus thing they were overcompensating to make Tempus as successful as possible. The time locks was most likely trying to copy the Desuwa idea of having only an hour to make the streams bitsized to draw in more people.
Like what they tried with the Tiktok stuff.
Only it backfired and all that and the other shilling did was spread the EN fandom further instead of bringing in more people.

>>33121916
>EN are just the background characters of hololive
I'd like to watch the jp girls but i dont speak japanese so it's not really an option.

>>33088529
>What the fuck happened?
Males.

>>33100080
Hologra is marketing stuff so nobody cares.

>>33115118
Post the updated one.

>>33112906
Liking the cuck comic on Twitter put a LOT of deadbeats off Mori permanently.

it's funny how mythfags try to defend that it's because of ame debuff but doesn't realize how much of a bigger debuff the rat is

>>33088567
Its not on Mori's channel though?

>>33109873
no matter how much you try and shill this, no one views mumei as being a whore like ame, kronii, and mori. she is and still will be a part of cgdct, for now at least

>>33112906
I stopped watching Calli in any collab before I knew about any of her yabs because she was a buzzkill who would (idk if she still does) talk to everyone like they were 10 or retarded or some shit. She’s terrible with that.

>>33088567
fpbp
nobody wants to be associated with Amelia

>>33090002
jokes aside, at the beginning I was all in on the original trinity of gura, ina, and ame. hell, even takamori when they actually played it up was enjoyable and fun to watch. the takamori a way out streams were great. being here since hololive was first discussed on /jp/ and getting to see the evolution of myth, it has been genuinely sad to see how far they've fallen.

>>33088529
>summer buff
>graduation buff
The real question is why's it so low?

>>33108998
>Gura, ina, mumei and recently fauna
and the lowest are Bae, Mori, and Ame? Hmmm I wonder why? Don't bother inserting Kiara, she's a debuff as a whole.

>>33090002
same. I watched for a bit, but seeing Gura being disengaged I just closed it. My oshi doesn't want to be associated with Ame and Mori, sooo I'm out

>>33099981
Besides all the other anon's joke here, I understand this

>>33088529
En twich.

>>33088529
Council is better

>>33088567
Truth.

>>33102500
>Kaela 16 streams 80 hours
>passing holos who have 2x-3x the ccv for hours watched through sheer force of will
absolutely monstrous
Koyori and Kaela need form a unit, they would release 60 songs a year and collab at least five times weekly

>>33088529
normies left

>>33088529
Tempiss

>>33088567
And council was on Bae's channel whats your point

>>33090002
Unfathomably based

myth is dying

Covo insulted the Chinese then left the company after they backed her.

>>33088529
covid season is over

>>33114631
fuck, the tds is real. just replace him with kaela then, my point still stand, that en are lazy as all fuck.

>>33158094
Cope, JP is getting higher numbers, why doesn`t covid affect them?
EN is losing the trust of the fans.

>>33088529
they dont stream

>>33088567
who?

>>33094314
Vods are based. I watched the entire thing tonight with my gf. She got sad because it reminded her she has no friends. I got happy because these girls are autistic and I want to fuck them.

>>33131570
>takamori when they actually played it up was enjoyable
Die immediately

>>33094185
vtubers are normalfag friendly in Japan, while they are a niche sub branch of the already niche interest that is weebshit in the west

>>33114600
>gura
>learning
HAHAHAHA! The most ridiculous delusion I've ever read.