/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

fucking nijiniggers cant even defend their own girl

>>324168
qrd pls im crying

shouldn't have been such a menhera bitch

>>324168
She is kill and also black listed.

goodbye monkey
goodbye

proprietary accent, pls andastand

A timeline where one of the cutest and purest daughter chuubas turns out to be a total bitch...I don’t like this either.

What happened this time?

>>327253
She dead.

>>324168
Who?

>>327253
Literally destroyed her career over dumb middle school level feuds.

>>327505
Who was she feuding with?

>>327588
Another nijinigger. I forgot her name. Roa was basically cyberbullying less popular nijiniggers. The thing that ended her career was a fued with another nijinigger because that girl was doing an accent that sounded like Roa's. That other girl was also a total menhera too and quit over it. She then proceeded to release her chatlogs with Roa. A part of the nijinigger fanbase turned on Roa and now she's been gone for months. Someone else can probably explain in more detail what exactly happened.

>>327710
You forgot the part where niji disowned that bitch for releasing the logs that also proved Roa just wanted to talk about it, but since the other girl is mentally ill she tried to do a pretend retire (again btw), and this time the company was tired of her antics and went ahead with it.

>>328289
I don't see how that changes the fact that they were both menhara retards.

>>328331
Roa didn't do anything though? How is it menhara to try to solve conflict among co-workers? Not her fault she was dealing with a menhara.

>>328420
>MUH PATENTED ACCENT

>>328420
She created that conflict to begin with. She didn't stop when she realized meiro is menhera, and decided to continue pressure her through management.

>>328420
It should've been done through management only. She never should've tried reaching out to Meiro directly.

>Meiro leaves
>pocks herself up and immediately goes back to her old work
>Roa goes on hiatus
>cant come back due to the shame and guilt she feels over what she did

>>324168
I don't understand how they were so heated against Roa. Isn't she like 12? Just treat her like a kid

>>328460
More like patented character trait within the same company.
Not that it fucking matters when the menhera lied about it being her real accent.
t. someone who barely even watches nijis and still thinks she got shafted

>>324168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWyckdbfwnY

For a moment I loved this girl, then I was faced with the reality that lonely people tend to be shitty people.

>>328420
Anonchama, dont post in a circle jerking thread. They're not even Niji fans, you gain nothing trying to correct them.

t.Holofag

>best friend bullied Aloe to graduation
>she bullied Meiro to graduation
They are better staying away from her.

>>329056
Sad thing is that I don't think she can ever comeback, people say you can't be cancelled if you are narcissistic but japanese can hold a grudge for multiple years.

is she officially kill?

>>329288
Anon work on your reps.
Turns out Meiro was menhera lying about her treatment.

>>329291
Stupid jap faggots and their obsession with cancelling others over the most stupid shit. Roa shouldn't be treated like this, the other bitch was worthless. Roa was up there with Lulu, and Debi.

>>326955
Is that why Aloe still is in hololive

>>329476
Except the bullying that led to her putting in the first graduation request was real

Reminder that she's now active as the indie Nekoma Shiroa.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgF7nAJ85yIopVHSheUaYsw

Idk what is worse, HoloCN harassing Coco or Roa and Meiro shit. This industry is so fucked.

>>329613
Fuck off, this thread has enough misinformation as it is.

>>329613
That makes no sense. Why the fuck she doesn't graduate then

>>329568
Bullying AKA being told by management to stop copying her seniors affected verbal tics.

>>329631
It wasn't HoloCN, it was china.

>>329613
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgF7nAJ85yIopVHSheUaYsw
FUCK?????

>>329689
Yes, it was HoloCN. There's more than enough proof about Rosalyn and Artia encouraging chinks to harass Coco to make her get out of hololive.

>hire a girl who is still in Middle School
>get Middle School drama

>>329682
I doubt that would cause someone to put in a graduation request by itself.

>>329613
>ロア -> 新ロア
I dont believe you but its funny.

>>329631
Coco deserved it, though for the wrong reason.

>>329103
>>329682
>she's 12
>verbal ticks
Holy shit, you roa faggots are more insane and gullible than KFP-fags.

>>329732
Then you won't mind posting it, yes?

>>329765
Go die in an escalator, Chang.

>comes back
>immediately starts bullying Derem for copying her heterochromia gimmick
Maybe the fact she keeps 1 eye covered normally will save her.

>>329751
Unless you're a menhera or manipulating nip antis.
>>329783
The accent is a fake one for both of them. Hence it's an affected thing like the catchphrases and verbal stuff vtubers do.

>>329660
>>329760
Give it a listen, she sounds exactly the same. She even kept her nanoda.

>>329861
A tic implies it's involuntary. Either you were lying to make her look better or you're a retard.

>>329907
If that were true Nijisanji would've actually graduated Roa. I don't think they like their vtubers going indie behind their back.

>>329910
Obviously i'm referring to the verbal affectations vtubers use.
Either you're a legit retard or you're being obtuse on purpose to sidestep the actual issue, that she tried to rip-off her company senior and claimed she was bullied for her 'native accent' which turned out to be bullshit.

>>329795
I wouldn't mind if it was months ago. I don't have those links anymore. HoloCN becoming persona non grata in the fandom isn't a coincidence.

>>329967
Yeah, not like we have constant Tia threads or anything...

>>329999
This is something unique on 4chan. On twitter, youtube, kiwifarms and reddit, all the chikins are badly viewed with the exception of Yogiri and sometimes Civia.

>>329288
This is now peak hololive eop audience's narrative

>>329631
>Idk what is worse
Mel's manager sexual assault her

>>329961
Yeah, right. They won't even graduate Tsumugu, the girl who streamed three times and hasn't done so in about a year.

>>330041
Why would they be? According to Cover they only graduated due to not making enough money. Cut off due to Cover's greed.

All she had to do was following the new girl on twatter. What the fuck was she THINKING?

>>330116
Because there were tons of proof about Artia and the others about them being nationalists and actively posting messages to fuck with coco. Artia had a video about harassement against a taiwan girl as well.

It's funny when the anti in japan already pardoned Roa and shitting on Meiro now after the truth comes to light but the holoEOPs on here are still parroting the old informations kek

>>330104
What the fuck. I didn't know a situation like this existed. Now I can see Roa being out as well without any problem.

>>330176
can you give an update about the situation? I only know the old information

>>329820
Go make your epik reddit meme

>>330176
No they didnt. Meiro fans still want her back.

>>330102
And Cover did nothing when she told them.

>>330176
>ITT roafags being completely delusional and lying to themselves

>>330104
What the hell is wrong with Nijisanji?

>>330157
Give me proof about Spade Echo because I've never seen or heard anything.

>>329549
What does hololive have to do with anything

>>330104
>>330333
It's believed to be some behind the scenes stuff based on a tweet of hers but who the fuck really knows.
Niji has 104 vtubers and even more retired ones. It's hard to say if it's genuine fuckery on their parts, bad managers or if the vtubers in question are responsible.

>>330077
Please dont put us on the same level with the dramafag who make this thread. And please dont be the same level as them by replying in this thread

t.HoloEOP

>>330428
It was just Artia and Rosalyn. There's no proof about the other ones.

>>330220
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm38179716
Read the comments for japanese's opinions, basically Meiro is a menhera similar to western thot who played the victim card with the thing she said like her accent was a lie with a track record of copied other works

how tragic

>>329291
I don't know Nijisanji seems to be making effort to bring her back and her image does seem to be getting rehabilitated as more information has come out about Meiro. She still releases voice packs monthly so she can make a living, the people who are her friends still retweet fan art with her in it, multiple other people within the company have said publicly on stream they wanted her to come back and not been flamed for it, they credited her name in a video recently on Himawari's channel, she has even started gaining subscribers again recently she put on 2k in the last month without doing anything.

>>330504
KNIFE

>>330449
Even more retired ones? fag, they have 11 graduated and 1 suspended between 104 jp vtubers, while hololive have 5 between the jp with their 30 jp vtubers.

>some homostar gets fired because they have sex with hologirl offscreen
defend it holoidolfag

>>330774
Fuck off birdkun

>>330795
That kind of narrative is on the same kind of level as half the shit you see spread about Nijisanji unquestioned to be honest.

>>330706
It's 2 suspended.

>>330774
You got it all wrong, he raped rushia in front of yagoo then pulled out a knocked Sora out cold by cockslapping her. He proceeded to finish on A-chan's face while declaring his undying allegiance to the CCP. That's why they fired him.

>>330815
>unquestioned
Mostly because nijis tend to be pathetic gatekeepers about the japanese-only nature.
Which'd be fine but they also keep numberfag bitching and get whiny about anti-narratives when most of them come out of nip nijis to begin with.

>>330815
>>330855
Why can't we just stop tribalfagging and watch both?

>>330706
True. So 10 graduations and 2 suspensions. I forgot that Hitomi also is a suspension for hololive.

>>330855
I think most of that numberfagging shit is intentional trolls looking to bait arguments out of hololive fans. I don't really get what you mean with the second part though you mean you go to the nijisanji anti thread on 5ch and see anti-nijisanji narratives? Who would have thought it. It's an anti thread.

>>330983
I mean most of the meiro/roa/tsumugu/etc shit is spread by nijis gossipping and not simply by committed antis.
Not counting the effect of that flaming homosexual Narukami doing videos on it.

>>330795
How about Matsuri, Shion and Subaru lets that poor holofan worked alone for two days while other companies vtubers and their fans are happily working together in that one Minecraft collab program and those holobitchs at that time are doing a collab with niji males because it will give them more views and them lying about it afterward? I bet you holo eops never hear of it because it happened before the N4 translated clips boom appear

>>331055
People spreading harmful rumours are not antis?

>>331107
The stereotypical nijinigger rears his swarthy head.

>>331107
>Calling others EOPs when your English is so fucking bad that it's impossible to decipher what the fuck you just wrote.

>>331107
Holy mother of ESL. I'm struggling to understand what the hell you just typed out.

>>331174
>>331198
not an argument holoniggers

My Uncle works for Nijisanji and he said Roa originally wanted to make a character called Hoa and her gimmick was that she'd suck gachicucks (her words) off for 5¥ under the Tokyo Tower.

>>331248
How are we supposed to even start augmenting when we can't even understand what you just said.

>>331107
Clip it.
>n-no I won't prove it they're whores I swear

>>331323
Are you really asking someone to clip an old hololive stream?

I found it funny that neither Japanese or English can actually pinpointed what accent did Meiro claimed from her hometown.

>>331385
extremely rare thing that only 5 people know about, 2 of them being meiro and roa

>>331374
Clip it to prove your claims nijigger.
You should be wanting the proof their "lies" floating about if you weren't full of shit, right?

>>331107
>>331385
Can someone explain to me how these nijinigger threads are full people that sound like fucking chat AIs?

>>331445
I wasn't even the guy you were talking to I was just pointing out that old hololive streams don't exist.

>>331475
Convenient to make bs claims about then.

>>331471
Rumao camouflage mixed with genuine "it's good because it's not popular" autism.

Hey Holofags, explain
>>330102
>>330278

>>331440
Well it's a made up to begin with

>>331655
it is indeed a made up

>>331692
Yet, some people in this thread claim it as something that actually exist.

>>331807
I think he's just mocking you because you forgot to type a word.

Is this Roa's "no da" suffix bullshit again?

>>331635
Reminder that Mel is still with Cover and it was solved long ago.
Meanwhile Nijis still have ongoing issues right now that still aren't solved.

>>331579
> it's not popular
> 94 vtubers over 100k with 40 over 200k.

>>332335
Ah yes, and that excuses a fucking manager wanting to rape Mel. In any other place not called JP, Mel wouldn't be on there.

>>332643
Nigger I have 100K subs on a channel on which I posted shitty 30 second video game shitposts.

>>332643
That guy probably mean "not popular with english viewer".

>>332813
I always assume that because its the only way that makes sense, but you never know how retarded people can be.

>>332812
Link it

>>332923
>dox yourself on 4chan

>>332866
The ironic weebs on his discord server aren't talking about it so it must be obscure.

If Meiro didn't want to get fired then she shouldn't have spoken.
Simple as.

>>332812
doxx yourself, now

>>329907
Cunt, I've given it more than just a listen. I watch Roa since 2019 and that's obviously not her.

>>332948
Yes

>>331323
It's actually one of the more well known incidents already so I have no idea why you guys are choosing to die on this hill instead of explaining what actually happened, just add it to the list of things that Hololive fans play 0 attention to while complaining about how Nijisanji has too much drama.

A Minecraft building contest was being hosted as part of Reality Festival 3, hosted by https://twitter.com/kenchikuou?lang=ja, and you can check the link in the twitter description too to see the teams.

4 members per team, up to 10 vtuber helpers per team, and 3 non-vtuber helpers (called supporters) per team, were meant to compete. Unfortunately, on the first day, none of the Hololive members showed up at all.

They later "clarified" it, by saying Fubuki had another event at Reality Festival 3 (which is true), so the others didn't want to start without her, and just planned to start on the 2nd day instead. They wouldn't have won anyways, but the event was for fun, and missing an entire day is eh.

https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1161295012803600385
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1161483801824043009
https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1161306474708029440

The problem, was that they tweeted this out the day after, without telling anyone at all what they were doing. The rules didn't specifically say you couldn't just ditch and not build for a day, so maybe they thought there wasn't any need to tell the organizers, but people were confused as shit as to why only a single Hololive supporter was building shit during their time for hours while the rest are away doing other shit. The organizers were also stuck streaming a literal random building whatever instead of actual vtubers, and were unaware that Hololive was off doing something else.

>>330931
Cross borders make this thread to shit up the board along with AO threads and that other Hololive vs Nijisanji threads. Logically the ones who left jaypee chose to stay because they hate the shitflinging/gatekeeping that happens there, just see the diffrence between the old Nijisanji/Hololive threads and the ones here. The best way is to just report such threads since the mods here are actually doing their job instead of commenting but then me and the other naive or idiots commented here just can't resist the temptation.

>>330464
Looks like Roafags spamming the comments to me. The kouhai was always outnumbered but that doesnt make the bullying justified.

>>331655
If that was true why were japs saying it was a normal accent at first? How come only now the narrative has changed to it being made up?

>>337616
They weren't, not sure where you got that from. Most people were asking whether or not that's an actual accent because they never heard of it before, but most settled on "You shouldn't ask someone if their accent is natural, because it's discrimination", "Whether it's natural or not doesn't excuse Roa DMing Meiro", or they pointed to that one video of a Kyushu Chef talking for like a minute while cooking in which you could sort of hear a mumbled ~deyo.

The narrative changed after someone went back and actually compiled all the ways Meiro was "copying" Roa, instead of it just being her speech patterns. Then within these, someone noticed one of Meiro's drawings resembling something from [redacted], people went to check, and it turns out they find out who she is, and she doesn't talk with an accent at all, and an employee actually leaking that Meiro used Kyoto dialect into standard dialect during auditions. Now the thing is, Meiro has always said she tries to not talk like Roa, just that it comes out when she's scared or nervous during stream, which somehow happens to be every single stream except one. So the current narratives are still "Even if it's made up, Roa shouldn't have DMed Meiro", "Streaming to a smaller community of around 70-80 people isn't the same as streaming to a few thousand, and she got nervous", or "Meiro can't respond since she's dead, so whatever happens doesn't matter because we only hear one side now".

>>337616
Which Japanese say it was normal?
>How come only now the narrative has changed to it being made up?
That because Japanese don't found the origin point of Meiro accent's even more when they look at Meiro previous life she didn't use the said accent, But there are proof of Roa making that accent.
Also the whole thing has went beyond accent as Meiro actually ghosting.

>>338510
>"Even if it's made up, Roa shouldn't have DMed Meiro"
I personally find this is stupid, as if people have problem they should talk with each other first.
All we know Roa want to talk, but context/intention can be lost when typing on internet.

>>340708
You talk to the company about it. Talking to the person directly behind the companies back makes it look like a threat. If Nijisanji thought it was a problem they should've told Meiro to stop.

>>338510
So wait she was an artist before? I thought she did asmr which is why she went back after leaving.

>>343455
They did

>>343455
That's the thingm the intention was lost. The fact that Meiro see's Roa DM as threat can be seen she's doing something wrong but instead of clearing up to Roa she decide to ignore it, based on what we know that's where Roa talk to management about this problem.

>>343590
She is both, she's has been selling ASMR on DLsite.
Her doing illustration was on her introduction stream.
Apparently Meiro supposed to have joined collab between Her and Kirama doing some animation, but for some reason Meiro decide to cut all of contact with Kirame.

>>343590
She did a variety of things. Managing an asmr circle is a lot more than just doing voices, and people blogpost all the time. Meiro did the cover art, mixing, voice, and scripts for her asmr works. She also showcased her animation sometimes.

It's like being a solo game dev, saying someone does "solo game development" is really saying they drew all the assets, created the soundtrack, designed the levels, programmed the code, wrote the story, etc all by themselves.

>>330464
That's the following Roa had?
Good riddance.

>>343914
>>343954
Is she on pixiv? Would it be doxxing to post it?

>>344055
No,a DLsite
In fact the video linked >>330464 is her latest product

>>344055
She's not on pixiv, she's active on Cien. Yeah, but you can easily just go to /jp/ or the archives. I just don't wanna eat a ban.

>>344129
I meant for the art, not the asmr. Or is art on dlsite too?

>>344178
She's also the illustrator/scriptwriter on that circle.

>>329961
Have you never heard of Luene?

>>330223
Redditors are still better than chink symphatizers

>>331471
Actual chinese falseflaggers who are under the impression that 4chan is some nexus of the western cultural zeitgeist.
just two days ago we had three people try and shill bilibili stocks in the /jp/ hlg thread. They are that retarded

>>350458
Combining two bogeymen into one now, eh.

>>350511
If you can explain the level of ESL in that post better than I can feel free to go ahead

>>350524
Could be someone from any of the over 200 countries where English isn't spoken natively, but no, it's gotta be the niji-chink menace.

>>350614
And those people would come to 4chan of all places to defend nijisanji... why exactly?

>>350644
I'm defending Roa because I like her and she's innocent.

>>350684
Yes but you type in decent understandable english. Not whatever the fuck that thing is

>>350703
And I don't give a shit about some hololive drama from minecraft but the other reply about the accent is perfectly comprehensible, even with the crappy grammar.

>>350894
Agreed on the accent post, but the point still stands about the minecraft post

roa is pregnant

>>350644
I'm defending Meiro because I like her and she's innocent.

>Thread about a niji
>Holobronies swarm this thread
You guys really love to give vtubers a bad name

>>351913
Rent free

>>352047
Yet again proved me right

>>351913
Woah, hold up here

>>351913
>noooo, not my shitty narrative drama thread, fuck you holoniggers!
>>>/jp/

>>352141
>>352159
Legit same as bronies before you cant make this shit up

>>335084
Ew, literally western thot in asian skin, no wonder only EOPs and chinks love hololive when in japan people loves niji and other agencies

>>352225
>thot
cringe

>>329521
>Roa shouldn't be treated like this,

Can't take the heat don't go power harassing people for months.

>>352281
>cringe
Ah yeah, of cource holofan is a redditor

>>352305
>cource
ESL-kun...your duolingo reps...

>>351913
It's because holoniggers outnumber nijiniggers by a factor of about thousand to one

>>352316
i have big hands

>People forgetting Roa was acting like a crazy bitch on twitter months before all this shit hit. Talking about people taking something that belonged to her and only her.
>Gundo fucking came to hate her guts to before this shit show.

I still believe this cunt is the reason Luna took up her nanora after she left.

>>352305
The fuck are you calling a holofan, I don't even watch their cringe idolshit, I was just checking the thread to see if there was any new i fo on Roa and it turn out it just the same narratives and schizos with holoniggers living rent free in their heads and who unironically use "thot" in [current year]

>>329838
Since Nijisanji ID is pretty much drama-free this could be the first controversy that involves one of their talent.

>>351913
>he thinks a literal Nijifag would create a Roa drama thread
Anon, you and everyone here ate the bait of whoever boogeyman is.

>>324168
Nijisanji has a rampant bullying culture inside their main JP branch and their overseas branches CN and KR. Moruru, now Luna, left Nijisanji for Hololive and when the whole Meiro-Roa controversy escalated Luna’s roommate tweeted out about backstabbing coworkers in her former workplace.

Nijisanji and their fanbase are trying to clear Roa’s name, after they were the ones that harassed her into hiding in the first place, by putting all the blame on Meiro. The thing is looking at Roa’s Discord logs that she publicly shared, Roa was the one who instigated the entire drama. Roa used her senpai seniority, in JP culture they wield a lot more power over their kouhais, and management to bully Meiro into stopping her accent. Meiro was the fastest growing Nijisanji liver at the time which explains why Roa approached Meiro the way she did. What Roa didn’t expect was for Meiro to be a menhera as well, so management gets involved and shit hits the fan. Now Meiro is graduated and still pissed at Roa and Roa is only attached to Nijisanji by her voice packs.

Jesas. Is there a single normal female vtuber? Probably just Subaru.

EOPs should stop getting their misinformation from leddit.
roa literally did nothing wrong unironically.

>>352377
>Gundo
No one cares

>>330931
because we're on 4chan and there are only retards here

From what I can tell Roa is at fault. The stupid bitch isn't even streaming anymore.

>>353183
All narratives are started on 4chan

>>352377
>Gundo
You mean the whore? Why would her opinion be relevant? If anything it's a sign of good character that someone like Gundo can't stand her as it suggests that she isn't a normie.

>>353128
This is you typical hololive EOP fan who eats up hlg's narrative everyday

>>330931
>>353453
A good half of niji posters on here and /jp/ don't actually watch niji. It's just an attack vector for chinks and braindead anti-lurkers like AO posting.

>>353677
This is your brain on hlg

>>352383
You're right, but imagine using "current year" in current year.

>>353685
t. faggot who goes into niji threads to whine about holos

>>353715
No one goes in nijisanji threads to talk about hololive, except for hlg denizens trying to start shit.

>>353677
What's AO posting?

>>353528
Tell me what's wrong about it then, N1-kun.

>>352358
For you

>>353751
lurk more than 5 minutes

>>353894
Quit gatekeeping and just tell me.

>>353965
fuck off. if somebody spoonfeeds you it will not be me. literally refresh page 0 twice and you will know what AO posting means.

>>329795
https://imgur.com/a/5Lgmho0

>>354146
>based on Chinese vtuber community
Sounds like a bunch of made up shit by antis to me.

>>354188
she's been on stream talking about her support of chinese extreme nationalism online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtHiwkmkqwE

>>324168
She'll be back.

Its okay she will recover

I OWN THIS SPEECH PATTERN
GET OFF IT

>>354568
I will literally become an anti for the first time if some new gen tries to steal -peko.

>>354568
yes she does peko

>>353128
YOU ARE LYING. YOU ARE JUST HOLOFAN HATING ON NIJI
THERE IS NO BULLYING IN NIJI

>>354643
cute

>>354643
Only one thing i despise 2434 for. THEY CAN HAVE FUCKING PANTSU without shitty spats. I WANT MATSURI SWIMSUIT 3D STREAMS GOD DAMMIT

>>354606
Kiara already copied Pekora's laugh. It's only a matter of time before she steals the -peko too.

>>354888
They have spats in the vast majority of their full 3D streams, they only turned off spats for that stream for fun.

>>354888
Well the main point of that particular stream was panstu.

>>355214
>>355246
How based. Makes me hate them even more

>>354916
Will that be before or after she goes full Yuri and cuts Pekora open to live inside her?

People keep saying that Roa wasn't in the wrong, but when I read the Discord log she posted on Twitter it doesn't come off that way. In the Discord log Roa showed off her seniority and talked about how hard she worked to cultivate her identity and fanbase. There's no way she would bring up that shit in a private conversation with Meiro unless she wanted to threaten her with her seniority/superior position. Maybe it's true that Meiro was a crazy bitch and did actually deliberately rip off Roa's accent, but that doesn't justify the very unprofessional way that Roa reacted.

>>355441
Japanese kinda treat seniority/superior position more seriously, as it's pretty normal for people on upper position to to lecture their junior even more when she's doing some misconduct.
So of course she would bring it in private conversation, because there is also the chance Meiro will be the one that got burned even without this shenanigans.

>>355441
Not a Nijifag, but I heard she is socially introverted, she probably got uppity about it without even realising it

>go ask the managers to bother Meiro then bother Meiro herself on discord

If Meiri didn't want to drop the accent what was her plan

I mean if the drama never happened and Meiro kept using the word what would've happened? Roa was way more popular than her and always would be. It's not like Meiro saying it caused Roa to lose subs.

>>355676
Nothing would've happened, Roa is a menhera bitch.

>>324168
Bullies OUT

>>355676
Most likely Meiro would be the one that burned, People will notice she's copycat and then started to look at her traced illustration.

>>355694
this but meiro

>>355656
Managers were already scolding Meiro, she would've been graduated if she didn't drop the accent. Roa was trying to resolve a situation that was already bad for Meiro without her involvement. Because the managers knew Meiro was faking the accent.

They checked all her previous life's content and her audition tape and in none of it did she mention or use an accent. They would have privately known where she grew up to verify if it's a "natural accent". They aren't just some redditors begging to be dripfed drama.

Roa was looking to resolve the problem privately before it turned badly for Meiro, both as her senpai and not wanting to be publicly blamed by rratfags if Meiro was unceremoniously graduated, but Meiro went full menhara and took Roa down with her.

>>355721
They both are

roa did nothing wrong

>>355765
>muh accent

It was Roa who told management to go bother Meiro though, this "she was actually trying to prevent her from getting fired!" is bollocks, you can even see it in their discord conversation how crazy she is about that accent, Roa is a bitch and was harassing a newbie.

>>355589
She's socially awkward and introverted, that's one part of it. The other is that the accent was something she developed together with Chitose, a now-graduated Nijisanji streamer, to whom Roa was very close to. It's likely she was overprotective of that character trait as a result.

>>355765
>she would've been graduated if she didn't drop the accent
It wasn't that drastic. Meiro had earlier in her short career put in and withdrawn a graduation request over trivial matters (Shiina Yuika talked her out of it), and when the management inquired about the accent thing, she put in a couple more. Nijisanji simply felt it was best to cut their losses and deny a withdrawal after she did it for the third time.

>>355834
Yeah and I bet it was Pekora who went to Kiara's manager and told her to stop fangirling so hard over Pekora in her debut stream?

This is so dumb, managers can read chat, they were aware everyone was comparing their accents and wondering what the fuck Meiro was doing.

Clinging to someone else's work and trying to leech off them makes a really bad first impression and any manager worth their paycheck would be aware of that.

>>355868
Why didnt she copyright it then? Then she could've just sued Meiro instead of going on a twitter rant.

>>355922
:D

>>355765
>Only 1 person is allowed to use this made up word
Pretty sure that isn't in the contract

>>355940
I guess every Vtuber can use -peko at the end of their sentence and getting money from it.

>>355963
They can but they wont since it's a shit word.

>>354916
>Kiara already copied Pekora's laugh.
Funny how HLtards defend Roa because Meiro "stole" some weird-ass speech pattern so it was justified to kill her. But yet they stay silent on that matter.

>>355991
It'd doesn't matter if it's shit word or not, Like you said they can.
The thing is will it sit well for everyone else?
Remember it was VIEWER who first pointed out Meiro change of speech.

>>356034
I see a lot of viewers pointing out that Kiara stole the stupid arrow laugh from Pekora, yet Pekora isn't going full retard by trying to make her change.

>>332948
What's the worse we could do? Give you down thumbs and increase your algorithm?

>>356006
They don't stay silent on the matter. Kiara gets shit on constantly.

>>356034
I've heard a ton of vtubers say ogey rrat and no one has gotten anal about it.

>>356075
>stealing a laugh
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

>>356103
It's an amazingly stupid laugh, gotta agree.

>>356103
Yet that's what she did, and she still have simps. It's really telling of the state of HLtards

>>356075
The difference here is that Kiara is Pekora fans, so if Pekora went full shut down on her it would impact badly on her.
There's the thing we really don't know why Meiro went full Roa speech at all, hell she's even went ghosting on Roa twitter and her fanart.

>>355881
Roa herself was sperging to Meiro about her accent

>>355881
They should've just made Meiro Roa's apprentice or something. Would've been a good way to help promote their newer talent and got Roa fans interested in her. Problem is Nijisanji is a cutthroat company that's oversaturated so Roa took it as an opportunity to take out competition instead.

>>356087
>ogey rrat
I don't understand

>>356199
Maybe if Meiro actually answer her question or actually talk to her, she' wouldn't sperg like whatever you implied.

>>356006
>HL tards
>Defending Roa
Literally in what universe? The people who do that are all nijiniggers

>>356261
In the universe where Roa is the only of the two that to have translated clips, Holotards (99% EOP) are only aware of her so they defend her.

>>329732
Yogiri did nothing wrong

>>356249
Now that just naive assumption, why would Roa fans like Roa 2.0 when you can just watch Roa herself?
She's already have niche of Illustrator or Animator, instead of developing those she's went copying some else speech pattern.

>>356286
Look at the state of this thread and tell me they are defending her. The holotards don't actually give a shit about this whole incident other than as a point in their hat to prove that nijisanji is a black company that allows older members to bully younger ones. Why the fuck would they defend Roa, the supposed bully in this scenario?
Also you assume that holotards actually watch any of the nijis, which they don't.

>>356186
Kind of like how Meiro still has simps defending her despite her having a complete meltdown, getting fired because the company was sick of dealing with her bullshit, and dragging one of Niji's more popular members down with her. It's really telling of the state of Nijiniggers.

>>356187
I figure it's because Kiara adores Pekora, has no ill intent when(/if) copying her, and will probably readily admit she's doing so if pushed. Pekora is hugely popular and her -peko and laugh are extremely distinctive, they're basically impossible to bootleg because everyone knows immediately who's being copied.

When it comes to Meiro, she's been found to be a prolific copycat in many ways (tracing the art she's famous for, for example). She sought personal gain in adopting others' traits and creations, and when pressed on the matter, she responded very badly. Had she been Roa's fan in the same way Kiara is Pekora's, the situation could've been easily defused, I gather. Roa was very cordial and careful towards her in her messages, after all.

>>330706
2, homos don't count, and both of them right at the beginning
Hololive workplace environment is clearly superior to nijisanji

>>324168
Does she even have anything other than being vtuber? She might come back when she needs money.

>>356337
There's also the bigger issue in that Pekora herself doesn't care, and none of her fans care either. The Roa Meiro thing only became a problem when Roa wanted Meiro to stop.

Roa should have been less of a paranoid bitch. Anyone defending her is likely a Nijifag who's come out of their discord to defend her.

>>356367
she could just join Hololive, she's friends with some of them.
in which case it'd be a step up for her.

>>356377
Ah yes the secret discord hlg came up with.

>>356385
Hololive isn't accepting right now.

>>356418
Hence why she hasn't officially graduated from Niji yet. She wouldn't have to apply, they'd just scout her like they did for Luna for their eventual gen 6.

>>356337
>>356372
We really didn't know why Meiro suddenly went full ~deyo and when asked she's resort to lie.


>>356367
I believe she was a schoolgirl.

>>356367
She's apparently active behind the scenes at Nijisanji, helping with some of the bigger collabs and events they've had since she went dark. She'll be back when she feels ready, the fallout of this scandal has essentially settled everywhere that matters (JP). These daily Roa/Meiro threads should be a pretty obvious exception, you can probably tell 90% of them are pure schizo rrats and shitposting.

There's no reason to defend either of them. Both Roa and Meiro are shit and deserve what happened to them. There are better Nijis you could be watching instead of wasting your time on menhera trash.

>>356477
Based. This but unironically.

Can someone explain to me who Luna was in Nijisanji, because this is the first time I heard about Luna being in Nijisanji, and I like Luna.

>>356561
Moruru of gamers.

>>356561

>>356332
I mean Aloe has simps despite being a whore who only streamed twice so I don't see the problem.

>>356476
It's never really left japan in the first place. The only place in the west that gives a shit is this place, and it's mostly just used as fuel in the Holo vs Niji console war. Pretty much nobody else even knows who Roa or Meiro is.

>>356569
>>356587
Damn, she's just as lovable as she was in the past.

>>356587
>>356569
doxxing is against the rules

>>356754
It's not doxxing, Cover very publicly bought her contract from Nijisanji. Everyone knew she was joining Hololive since before they even announced her gen.

>>356332
Aloe still has a legion of western whiteknight for her then nothing is impossible

When the hell is Roa going to start streaming again? I know she reincarnated as an indie but she never formally retired so surely she plans on returning, right?

>>330104
chances are it's a joke account, who knows. the videos arent really disliked and no one's asking anything about it. and if you bring it up they just laugh and make a joke that "Once every nijisanji vtuber graduates, i want you to stream again!"

>>356346
>homos don't count
Holostars are very much JP vtubers associated with the company. It's disgusting how Holofags try to sweep them under the rug like they don't count as part of the company. The person you were replying was talking about JP talents. That's a total of 1 suspension and 4 retirements out of 47 JP talents in Hololive Production.

>>357091
I mean it's not like Cover doing any better than our folks here.

To me, it's another one of those nothingburgers spiraling into something bigger than it should be.
A talent calling out his/her co-worker happens sometimes. It's just that, how much pressure did Meiro got to the point that a mid-tier Niji felt that she needed to graduate.
If anything, it's probably the management's fault to not bridge them and handle it properly.
Which create these assumptions that the management leaned to 1 side instead of being the middle-man.
I also don't think "menhera" is simply the answer to all of those problems.
At the end of the day, it's the viewers' judgments that matters. If Meiro's audiences find it distasteful, they'll just unsubscribe and stop watching her, therefore she'll drop whatever copycat things she's doing eventually.
It's not like the viewers watch them "only" for the accent, it's just a "bonus".
What's Roa's accent again? "のだ (no da) ?"
I personally don't think that it's super unique or anything.
I haven't really found whatever Meiro did that was a blatant plagiarism of a super unique thing other talents do.

I'm not really a Niji watcher myself, but it kinda irritates me when this kinda of nothingburger drama happens.

>>357196
Management already tried being middleman.
The problem is more on Meiro decide to strike first with passive aggressive stream despite told not to then Narukami came in to prepare some oil and put a sign "There will be fire here"

>>353313
>>353526
>>352225
>>356588
Nijiniggers really is the preferred company for handholdless incel virgins.

>>357196
なのだ is just standard Japanese. Roa's was でよ, which is also standard, but she uses it to replace だよ, which isn't really in any dialect.

Management tried to not bridge them probably they didn't want either to be getting into a fight ironically. Also, they definitely weren't leaning into a side until mid August. They told Meiro to use standard dialect, and when she didn't, Roa went on hiatus, and they told her that if Roa's ends up quitting because of this, that it would affect her collabs. Of course, Meiro doesn't really give a shit and just continues, 6 weeks of management not doing anything at all, and it isn't until Roa vague tweets on 8/15, do things really blow up.

Once Roa has brought it into the public, viewers start to realize that it really is a feud between Roa/Meiro, and Meiro was the reason Roa took a break for a few weeks. Meiro is obviously furious that people are flaming her, and for some reason, gives management an ultimatum. Either they put out a statement that her accent is real, or she quits. Management obviously does not want either, and gives a pretty good response imo. They retweet their policy against harassing members, a clear reference to the current situation, and give Roa a warning about vague tweeting. Meiro can go on as usual, and if Roa ever vague tweets again, they'll take her twitter and temp. suspend her. For some mindbogglingly stupid reason, Meiro decides to quit instead, saying that tweeting their policy against harassment isn't actually going to get people to stop talking about how she's copying Roa now.

Whatever else she did copy, was after Roa went to twitter to vent. She created Eve, and put up a twitter header that resembles Roa/Chitose. Roa, in her twitter description, says that she'll wait for HxH no matter how long it goes on hiatus, and Meiro on her castlevania title, says she doesn't mind if HxH never comes back.

Management only leans to one side after her resurrection stream.

>>357854
Oh right, management obviously does not want to put out a statement saying Meiro's accent is real, because they knew that it wasn't really, and it would basically be completely taking Meiro's side, and result in Roa quitting.

>>357196
Meiro having a screw loose became apparent when people realized after the mess that the illustrations she uploaded to her Twitter is very obviously ripped off from Roa's Twitter header, and that happened way before the mess.

>>358230
should let the menhera graduate in peace

>>358534
Yeah idk why they're still acting like Roa is coming back. Let it go.

>>357091
>Hitomi Chris scandal right after her debut about stuff unrelated to the company
>that homo that went indie because he wasn't getting enough views
>Kaoru, that another homo that left because of personal issues
>Aloe, who got harassed right after her debut by rabid nijiniggers for comments she said when she was an indie while trying to pose as concerned idolfag trolls
>Kira, that homo who left because of health issues (he was barely streaming prior to that)
Meanwhile, nijis retired or got suspended because of workplace drama and bullying

>>358817
Suzaku couldn't stream due to school for a while. both as an indie and his stars sefl. He lives and breathes among us now, but back at the end of 2019 and early 2020 he only streamed like 4 or 5 times over several months between both accounts.

>>358817
It's hard to have any drama when all you do is read from a script. Soulless hololives can't fight because they are weak unlike the soul nijisanji.

Does anyone that follows Meiro now know if she's talked at all about becoming an indie vtuber? I know she went back to doing asmr but I'd rather see her back as a vtuber.

Roaches deserve to be killed. I love this timeline.

>>330504
You are underage.

The thing I dislike most about english nijifags is that they unironically push that parasite narukami's shit.

>>358949
Take meds

>>358949
meds

>>331107
Seethe ESL sperg

>>331107
What about that time Miko collabed with Shiba for a while during her early years, then proceeded to ghost her on Twitter completely. She was just using Nijis like Shiba and Maimoto as a stepping stone on her way to popularity, discarding them as soon as she got more popular than them.

>>359594
>ghosting furfaggot nijiniggers
sounds pretty BASED to me

>>359594
Well, most of hololive was niconico camwhore, they are in to this fad for money after all

>>359687

>>327710
forgot how the other girl released cherry picked chatlogs. Roa released the full logs that showed she didn't do anything wrong and was polite. the other bitch now does 18+ streams and makes fun of Roa being gone, because she's a mentally-ill slut that was trying to steal Roa's gimmick.

>>328515
>she should have just let meiro steal her character trait once she realized she was mentally ill!

>>359971
>the other bitch now does 18+ streams
link so I can SC her for attempting to destroy nijiniggers from within

>>360054
>wanting to support a cunt who ruined the only good niji

I know this is the Nijisanji anti thread but it boggles my mind as to how people can be so blind with hatred. Yeah, I know Nijifans were jackasses who made Aloe graduate. But being this vigilantly hateful of Nijisanji and willing to spread misinformation about their talents means you're pretty much being the exact same kind of person who got Aloe to graduate. Not trying to make excuses for Roa or Meiro here, it's just that there's nothing to "win" from being tribalist against Nijisanji as a whole, it's just an empty ego boost, and if it gets bad enough it can just lead to more damage done to both fanbases, just like how the blind hatred from hololive antis led to hololive fans being vigilant in the first place. Hololive and Nijisanji vtubers themselves are generally friendly with each out anyway, so if we really respect our oshis, maybe we can learn something from them.

>>356754
doxxing really lost its meaning, eh?

>>360341
>pro niji post
>uses Luna
Nice falseflag anon.

>>361210
I used Luna because I support vtubers from both companies. I genuinely want all of them to do well. Believe it or not, not everyone is out to hurt you or falseflag, anon.

>>329751
Bugmen detected

>>361210
It's less "pro niji" and more "holofans and nijifans are both being dumbasses and maybe they should consider not doing that"

>>328420
Yeah it's completely reasonable to try and force someone to stop talking the way that they have their whole life to satisfy your retarded lore autism.

>>331107
Just type it in tagalog already you SEA nigger

>>328420
>original accent, donut steel
Although, yeah Meiro was mostly in the wrong for being absolutely mental asking for permission to graduate (for like the 3rd time since her debut) and then posting cherrypicked screencaps to make Roa look even worse when management finally had enough of your menhera antics and let you go

>>361542
>force someone to stop talking the way that they have their whole life
>their whole life
That's the thing, Meiro never talked like that before she joined Nijisanji.

>>361683
Proof?

I'd like nijifans a whole lot more if they were promoting their oshis in threads instead of whining about holos and jerking off over old drama.

>>361941
This is anti thread you imbecile

>>362242
Well yeah but it's indistinguishable from regular niji threads is the issue.

>>362660
Regular niji threads don't even talk about drama or hololive though?

>>362660
There's an actual niji thread here and on /jp/, although the one here is constantly on the verge of getting bumped off.

>>362660
Lol, you are still trying to push that narrative nijisanji fans are all anti to their company? I guess the mod doesn't ban you here unlike /jp/ huh?

>>360341
>you're pretty much being the exact same kind of person who got Aloe to graduate
I don't recall any of us calling to niji streamer's house to tell them to kill themselves 24/7

>>362749
Because they are dead threads. Nijifags practically live in holo threads

>>360341
>Yeah, I know Nijifans were jackasses who made Aloe graduate.
Can I have the proof for this
I have seen holofans going around and said it but every time I asked for the proof, they can't bring any, maybe you can answer me this time, you seem to be honest and sane guy

>>363042
Think that is probably just you guys getting trolled by people that know it is easy you's.

>>363042
>if the thread doesn't have the /pol/ speed it would be dead thread
holofag everyone

>Anon makes comment about nijis in a totally not niji-antis thread
>immediately three niji antis jump out of the woodwork
>>362749
>>362763
>>362946

>>363181
Then they know an awful lot about nijisanji. And they always come out of the woodwork when someone dares tos ay something bad about nijisanji

>>363377
Maybe there are people that are fans of both companies?

>>363466
That's why they defend nijisanji while attacking hololive at the same time in a hololive thread. It all makes sense

>>363377
How do you know what they say was true?

>>363466
>Maybe there are people that are fans of both companies?
No way! That's impossible!

>>363596
Sachou is really out of the place with your taste desu

>>363573
>someone talks about a holo doing something impressive
>no, X niji did it first, holos are just copying nijisanji, here's the proof holonpc
>>363466
So the ones that like both holos and nijis are more prone to shit the thread compared to the ones that don't know anything about nijis

>>363844
That sounds like the hololive hating troll from /vyt/ to me.

>>363377
>Then they know an awful lot about Nijisanji
How high is the bar for knowing a lot here when 90% of the Hololive threads only know Nijisanji as "that other vtuber company that does terrible things". I mean, you can just take a look at the archives too, most mentions of Nijisanji in the Hololive threads are just shitting on them.

>>360341
This is just how humans are, most people are jackasses anon. They don't know what they're doing.

Between >>357545 and >>357854, there are definitely some contradictions.
But, based on >>357854,
>Roa went on hiatus
>until Roa vague tweets
These are unnecessary. It means that Roa was also at fault to a certain point.
Like I said, she should just let the viewers be the judge and proceed calmly.
>>358230
Wow, again with this "she is a menhera" type of answer.

>>363177
Nijiniggers were part of the issue, after the antis tried with the "muh ex-boyfriend" angle they changed their tactics to focus on the comments about Chitose and nijisanji and some retards jumped into the hatewagon

>>358817
Please list all the ones that got out from Nijisanji due to drama and bullying because this doesn't seem realistic as you think it is.

>>363844
Are you going to act like Hololive created and popularized streaming? Because if you're in there since 2018, you know it wasn't hololive even though holo came one year before nijisanji. Same for the Live 2D models.

>>354643
>Implying Sasaki doesn't regrets not standing up for Luna.

Anon she spends 1/4 of her streams raging at management and pushing Chaika's labor union.

>ghosting
You guys know the other leaked chat logs have othe niji members telling Meiro to just ignore Roa and her management right?
And we know that shit is legit, it is after all what got Meiro caned for breach of NDA.

>>356385
>she's friends with some of them

Any proof of that?