/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>56,583: Tsukasa (Indie)
>38,454: Miko (Hololive)
>27,525: Koyori (Hololive)
>25,752: Korone (Hololive)
>25,299: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,006: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,583: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,398: Reid (Neo Porte)
>16,575: Linglan (The Box)
>16,018: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>15,445: Met (774 Inc.)
>15,084: Botan (Hololive)
>15,011: Mio (Hololive)
>13,952: Lui (Hololive)
>13,763: Miko (Hololive)
>12,967: Rindou Mikoto
>12,574: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,445: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,884: Matsuri (Hololive)
>11,806: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,288: Calli (Hololive)
>10,353: Lamy (Hololive)

>>33078110
kys crossposter.

>>33077944
Nice. Not as based as Atage, tho, but that's just my Ragnarok bias.

>>33078174
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Ayame, Marine, Pekora
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Miko, Sora, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
160x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
31x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
15x: Miko
10x: Subaru
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

so EN3 is happening soon right

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>38,454: Miko (Hololive)
>27,525: Koyori (Hololive)
>25,752: Korone (Hololive)
>25,299: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,006: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,583: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,398: Reid (Neo Porte)
>16,575: Linglan (The Box)
>16,018: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>15,445: Met (774 Inc.)
>15,084: Botan (Hololive)
>15,011: Mio (Hololive)
>13,952: Lui (Hololive)
>13,763: Miko (Hololive)
>12,967: Rindou Mikoto
>12,574: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,445: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,884: Matsuri (Hololive)
>11,806: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,288: Calli (Hololive)
>10,353: Lamy (Hololive)

>>33078242
Pretty sure it'll be holox style, no weird drawn-out nonsense weeks ahead of the debuts this time.

>>33078262
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
1x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko, Pekora
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Sora, Subaru

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
162x: Hololive
83x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
32x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
10x: Subaru
9x:Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Nijifaggot

>>33078242
October.

Why are we having 2 tallys?

>>33078309
>no weird drawn-out nonsense
Are you sure about that? This is EN management we're talking about here. Omega needs his LORE.

>>33078377
halschizo forgot to take his meds

>>33078377
CYOA and Meatbags.

>>33078377
meatbags disqualified tsukasa stream but halschizo refuses to take the L

just noticed something funny
i think linglan lily still have the channel key for the cloud horizon channel
this started before the chat stream yesterday. similar title too. probably forgot to update her obs settings for the chat stream presets.
did anyone manage to archive it?

>NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) :https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805>>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776<span class="deadlink">>>5591760>>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732<span class="deadlink">>>11015414>>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222>>>/jp/31524177>>>/jp/34129071>>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283>>>/jp/36404268>>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946>>>/jp/31923947>>2689172>>3342175>>3343926>>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034>>>/jp/29352658>>>/jp/34766571>>1843302>>3773035>>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083<span class="deadlink">>>1784574>>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380<span class="deadlink">>>10959272>>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905<span class="deadlink">>>4283312>>24804708)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392<span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348<span class="deadlink">>>14752560>>14752914>>21529067>>22935912>>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896<span class="deadlink">>>8648645>>13972862>>14457547>>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272<span class="deadlink">>>13922827>>14015995>>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805<span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399<span class="deadlink">>>5902529>>15489004>>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493<span class="deadlink">>>12457630>>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803<span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844<span class="deadlink">>>12533326>>12955114>>13021182>>13045705>>13445167>>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553<span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

And when all else fails...
> #45 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...
> #46 Playing the Victim :>>5836502<span class="deadlink">>>11753740>>13804174>>14751831</span>

>>33078400
Omega appears to be firmly shifted over to StarsEN, since I haven't seen them comment on the girls at all in recent history.
Also, the shift to open auds makes me think that CoverHQ probably had some.....words with the EN branch.

>>33078110
/news/ roundup for 12-09-2022
>>33035765
Recent clip numbers
>>33019589
>>33019614
>>33019722
>>33019747

>>33078501
>CoverHQ probably had some.....words with the EN branch.
based if true, time to put their shit together

where's faunaschizo, i miss him

>>33077924
>>33078000
No she didn't
IRyS said she failed an audition, not that the audition was for hololive
For all we know, that audition may not be related to vtubing at all
What she did say was that it was "hololive or nothing"

Super 3d poster I-I kneel...

>>33078572
Kys crossposter

>>33078593
NO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

>>33078572
I wonder what i could've been to make her go "holo or nothing".

>>33078567
ill stand in his place
green whore will not get 5k

>>33078572
She said she would need to ask her manager for permission to talk about it, and went on to talk about Nene's experience. She then went on to talk about another singing audition she did that was specifically not Hololive. If she could freely talk about that one and would need her managers permission for the other one it heavily implies it was Hololive.

>>33078572
Niji reject?
Niji reject.

https://twitter.com/Priichu/status/1569501613760614401
https://twitter.com/Priichu/status/1569501613760614401
https://twitter.com/Priichu/status/1569501613760614401

So the outfits are official and he based his 3D off of that, right?
That means either this has been in the work for a long time, or poor mf had to pull up an all-nighter

Btw, I'm kinda sad that Mori doesn't use black as her main color like AZKi

>>33078625
judging by her previous zatsus I gather that it was likely about being part of a more permanent singing thing for anime or something anime-adjacent

>Myth streams end
>thread become slow and peacefull
Jesas.. there really are dedicate discord antis for myth huh?

>>33078688
The pure irony if this actually was true
Ennaschizo seething that IRyS got into holo instead of Enna
IRyS somehow a niji reject

>>33078770
they're still shitting up the catalog

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1568311064680603648
What the fuck is wrong with Gura

>>33078780
>>33078572
Imagine if true.
>irys & enna on niji auditions, wanna go music
>irys fails, she goes to her second shot
>gets in
>retard growth, but can pump out music
>meanwhile enna
Enna...

>>33078876

I don't watch vtubers anymore but what happened to Myth anniversary numbers? 30k is Gura karaoke numbers, I did know they debuted StarsEN is that why?

>>33078876
>ISREAL

>>33078899
i mean, it tracks, Niji has awful recruitment as Iluna proves, they literally lucked into their boom

https://twitter.com/CyanNyan6/status/1569459395712663552

youtu.be/CB7m8-VMKzw

Not related to VTuber per se, but I wonder how much opsec the talents in big corpos are receiving (Especially after the Rushia yab)

>>33078876
Sexually repressed 12 year old pls understand

>>33078876
needs correction

>>33078693

>>33078939
Yeah, Tempus was such a a mistake. I coudlnt bring myself to watch HoloEN anymore.

>>33079014
These models suck

Is monday bad for numbers? Everyone's numbers look awful including nijis.

Sorry IRyS, 6k is for grownups

The absolute state of HoloEN right now.

>>33078876
She knows what she's doing

>>33078970
>repressed
>when she fucks every friday

>>33078958
Ultimately it depends on the vtubers not being retards, but the corpos try to do what they can, as showed by the airtags thing.

>>33079068
RIP trackers, it was above 6k for 2 checks

ok green whore wont get 6k thats for sure

Myth killed EN numbers of the day.

>>33078262
Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJmnk_B8R2M
hoooow?? SAO author is 35p

>>33078876
God I hate these models, I need this but in real 3D.

>break

>>33079125
>HTML editing

>>33079190
To be fair Ina has to work on designs for her upcoming anime adaptation and her gacha shit work. She actually has an excuse.

>>33078958
sponsorship is handled by managers to relay information back and forth. the ways for the talents to get viruses are they need to be dumb enough to browse shady sites, click on those links/download random things

>>33078876
Watch stream and listen to what she said, it will turn you on

>>33079173
Atahuta is a winning son fan too.

>>33079068
?

She got it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRq4-uktHiI
Dan Dan 900k

>>33079244
>her upcoming anime adaptation
what?

>>33079190
How come Ina can still stream while having 3 times the workload of Sana?

>>33079327
The LN she works on got an anime and she's doing the designs.

>>33079014

>>33078501
You mean you haven't seen him say anything at all, right? His last tweet is in July.
Unfortunately he liked something on twitter as recently as 5th of September, and it was a HoloEN thing. And he keeps retweeting HoloEN shit. It firmly looks like "Omega is the tempus manager" is just a retarded rrat and wishful thinking.

>>33079339
Ina is fast as fuck with art.

>>33079361
What LN? I didn't know this

now that we have enough proof, Why is NijiEN inclining? and why is HoloEN declining?

>>33079324
it took some time for the algorithm to favor it
I don't think I started seeing it immediately recommended until it had like 600k views

>>33078876
how hours till rent @ her?

>>33079399
do your reps

>>33079390
So you are telling me Sana is just shit at her job?

>>33078688
There is literally, literally no way NijiEN would have rejected Irys.
They'd have gone AWOOOOOOGA 127 GORRILION VIEWS ON HER PL GET HER IN RIGHT NOW AWOOO AWOOO NUMBERS just like HoloEN did

>>33079361
Oh shit
That's big
I might give that LN a read now

>>33079456
Irys and Council were all AWOOOOGA numbers hires for the most part.

>>33079361
Too bad it's shit

Mock Aia all you want, but it's still a massive improvement over the amount of viewers she used to get on her PL account.

>>33079434
basically ever mama/papa comments about how freakishly fast ina is

also sana designs higher rarity gacha units than ina, so by that metric she's better

>>33079406
they aren't

>>33079434
No, Ina is just an anomaly. Watch her streams and other artist and you'll see.

>>33079456
Irys? Niji reject
Marine? Niji reject
Pejora? Niji reject
Haachama? Niji reject

>>33078400
Tempus wasn't drawn out. I think they learned their lesson and found a nice middle ground. EN3 probably will be the same thing.
A trailer hyping them up will appear one week randomly and by next week they will debut.

>>33079551
based Niji rejecting those whores

>>33079305
Yeah I'm gonna need a source on that one

>>33079051
>>33079084
Yeah me

>>33079434
Sana draw better, but slower. Ina draw well, enough, and she's way way faster than most artist in the industry, though.

>>33079434
nah, Sana is the better artist in my opinion

>>33079633
Tentacles power

sapling status?

>>33079603
https://twitter.com/atahuta_/status/1567016338169950208
https://twitter.com/atahuta_/status/1567016338169950208
https://twitter.com/atahuta_/status/1567016338169950208

>>33079633
>>33079692
you guys are fucking crazy, GG is aan actual ripoff design and her eyes suck.

>>33079434
No, we're telling you Ina is a freak of nature. Though, she does trade that for having kind of a bland artstyle

>>33079725
>I only know ONE of her design, I'm a retard
Yeah, we know.

Can Fauna reach 6k or will she get cucked like IRyS did

>>33079704
I can't believe he's cucking Roberu behind his back...

If Enna played Splatroon, she'd get 12k no problem.

>>33079725
What is GG a ripoff of?

>>33079839
not now enna larper

>Faunaschizo posted in global and got banned
What a retard
Anyway I can see this crawling up to 6k but it won't make it to 7k before she bleeds out to Mubae

>>33079807
Irys reached 6k tho?

>>33079807
Holostats caught 6k >>33079312

I imagine Mubae brings in more numbers than BaeRyS on average right? I mean irys is a flop.

>>33079997
Mumei solo brings more numbers than BaeRyS

>>33079997
Fauna too is such a flop, unbelievable.

>>33079407
Mumei re-uploading with little fanfare probably didn't help. That and there's like 3 copies of the original video with all high views. Despite all that it's already got 900k is probably good news.

I'm actually surprised NijiEN got 20k for an offcollab with this lackluster combination, at this hour, even with an offcollab.

>>33080028
She lost to irys yesterday anon.

>>33079997
>>33080028
Not after her failed Holocure stream

>Fauna on track to passing IRYS while overlapped while IRyS was alone for an hour and didn't climb
What the fuck?

>>33080077
>>33080078
IRyS started earlier and had no overlap. Do you truly believe that had they started at the same time, IRyS would beat Mumei head to head on the same game?

>>33080061
I love this cope after you were saying all day that it would beat the Myth stream.

>>33079406
And why arent (You) touching grass?

>>33079434
Sana is not bad at all. Ina is just special.

>>33080028
did you somehow timeslip from June or July anon? this is literally from 8 days ago

>>33080135
Context is not allowed here
Get out

>>33080135
Cope

>>33080232
Delusional IRyStotard

>>33079434
No. I actually like Sana's art better. Sana's style is super cute and it tightens my balls more than Ina's art. The thing that makes Ina elite is that she can crank out super high quality art at light speed. Sana needs to take her time.

Why is there always CouncilRys fighting in this thread?

>>33080137
I know there's no way to convince you of this, but I'm no nijinigger. Just hours ago I was mocking them for thinking they would ever beat this. But desu I didn't even expect 20k because I distinctly remember actual male, 2-3 Luxiem offcollabs in chinktime getting less than that.

>>33080293
They're the only relevant ones streaming

>5ch talks about JP being soulless and reclining while saying EN has soul and is innovative
>4ch talks about EN being soulless and reclining while saying JP has soul and is innovative

Holy hell Cult of the Lamb is debuff city.

Timeloop

>>33080112
Wow, you just figuredbout that no-one watches Irys!

>>33080334
The Japanese have a lot more knowledge of vtuber culture since it is a lot more mainstream over there. The fact that they recognize that EN is better should be a huge wake up call for the last samurai in here.

>>33080341
That game is better streamed in twitch, where there's a extension for it.

>>33080341
Not as debuff as being IRyS. Ina peaked higher than IRyS non overlap while Fauna was playing Holocure at the same time.

When you reply to bait you're part of the problem.

>>33080334
JP misses the scuffedness of the olden days, while EN longs for the planned events of today

>>33080334
nips want male collabs

>>33080410
Or, get this.
Each region see what the other is doing and wants what they're doing for their own branch, because something something grass greener.

>Scarle's stream got private
>Aia is still streaming
What happened?

>>33080334
EN is prone to taking more risks. They kind of have to since they don't have easy access to Cover studio like many JP does.

Irys is unironically a bigger debuff than Kiara and Ame.

>>33080334
JP isn't reclining. They're talking out of their ass if that's true. EN is objectively reclining.

>>33080470
Pretty much. The EN anniversary was fun, but dissapointing since it's the only type of content they deliver. Similarly while all the 3D lives are kino, it would be nice if they had some more creative 3D stuff from time to time.

>>33080519
VR is a considered a risk now?

>>33080334
>>33080410
stop repeating shit from last thread fag

>>33080334
so what HoloEN has that HoloJP don't? unless they're talking about more stars x Holo collabs

>>33080334
I don't think JP is more innovative than EN. The problem is that EN needs to be innovative because they don't have the kind of studio and support that JP has which is what makes JP content superior.

>>33080470
Cope

You have the home base of vtubing (Japan and Japanese people) admitting that EN is better. They would know about what works in vtubing a lot more than us since it is much more ingrained in their culture. Wonder if the Last Samurai feel betrayed by the people they worship.

>>33080550
I know we in the numbers thread, but you know most people don't really care about the numbers.

>>33080609
They don't have 3D yet. If they have official 3D debut their numbers would sky rocket.

>>33080564
>wanting Niji's garbage variety show shit
Nah, I hope they keep doing the concerts and stay away from that trash.

>>33080662
Hopefully they'll get it soon. With ID finally getting theirs this month, and actually being in Japan for it, I'm hopeful.

>>33080609
You are actually retarded

>>33080590
Yes

>>33080600
too bad i'm gonna post this on every thread to own the last samurai

>>33080687
Botan's recent 3d was kino though

>>33080687
Variety is the spice of life anon. Keep doing the same shit over and over and anyone will get tired of it. Being daring every now and then and experimenting is an easy way to find some brand new hit. Companies don't succeed in the long term by hunkering down and refusing to take risks. Just look at modern Marvel shit - after Infinity War they're lost at sea because they are incapable of thinking outside their niche.

>>33080772
Still not as good as myth anniversary.

>>33080490
she showed her real tits on stream

>>33080729
that doesn't answer my question

>>33078486
based

>>33080814
"Variety Show" and "Variety" aren't the same thing. When I mention variety shows I'm talking about those garbage Japanese skit/sketch shows. They are the worst form of entertainment in the world and Niji does that shit all the time. I don't want Holo coming anywhere near that style of trash content.

Tempus is just lite-NijiEN at this point
>Hoping to see MAgni solo stream
>Open stream
>Another VC

holy autism >>33080505

>>33080814
Doesn't help that the well they have to draw from after Infinity war is full of 'woke shit' that no one even fucking wants to buy the comics for, let alone shitty movies made from them.

>>33080968
It's literally in the title anon...

>>33080927
I think gura is the best at creating variety content. Maybe they should ask her for some idea

>>33080687
Why are you talking like Hololive doesn't do variety shows? They keep doing that every week in the main channel

>>33078110
Where are the statistics that say something correct about male collabs being good for Hololive pure idol culture????

Nooooooooo
My 0-0-0

so uhh, ID1 3D showcase number prediction?
can moona or risu get 50k?

>>33081003
who's got that LOTR watchalong image saved? it was pretty high quality and to the point

>>33081003
my bad I'm dumb

>>33081066
Depends. Are JP clearing the timeslot for them, or are they gonna reap the whirlwind for all those overlaps they gave JP?

>>33080968
HoloEN being anti-social doesn't make that kind of collab bad

>>33080328
fuck off, nijishill

>>33081126
that's ok, to be fair Tempus have been doing a lot of collabs (though that's not really what NijiEN's issue was imo).

>>33081066
With gura buff its possible for moona to get 70k-80k, risu would probably around 60k and Iofi since gura fans hates her will be around 40k

I give it a month before she passes FlopRyS

>>33081061
I N C L I N I N G
T O
T H E
M O O N

>>33080927
They've been doing them for years you muppet.

>>33080687
80% of Holosummer was variety show anon

>>33079509
Only two of council got any big numbers in their past lives, what are you talking about?

>>33080968
The Sims was always a collab sine the very beginning, even in the schedule...

>>33081196
what the hell guys I thought she pissed off all her fans and was going to recline?

>>33080334
Grass is always greener on the other side
The nips will never understand the value of what they have

>>33081026
right here anon *unzips*

>>33081138
i think so? they are doing it on the main studio so JP management should've been talking to JP mem to clear and not to use those timeslots.

I know no 3D access management bad poor EN being neglected and all that, cool, but what was stopping Myth from doing a month-long celebration like Sankisei did with full gen collabs on each of their channels, you don't need to go to a 3D studio for that.

>>33081220
Where's that retard that told me Fauna wouldn't pass irys?

>>33081232
>>33081126

>>33081220
pomu's on MC, eh? do we finally get an update on the world seed fuckery?

>>33081196
Bet your balls clockcuck

>>33081266
>but what was stopping Myth from doing a month-long celebration like Sankisei did with full gen collabs on each of their channels, you don't need to go to a 3D studio for that.
Liking each other.

>>33080927
You know, I think Japanese variety shows is just heritage from their old days of kabuki performance art
And since I think the equivalent of the West is ... Broadway, which is fucking DED all things consider, I know why EN viewer don't like that

>>33080328
If you're not a nijinigger then why do you make posts like a nijinigger?

>>33081196
Kronii practically dead/in hiding and still almost doubling IRyS. Absolutely pathetic.

>Noir solo POV (albeit with Myth funnel) >>> Magni big collab
Did Magni unironically recline hard from the Daph thing?

>>33080968
Retardchama ...

>>33081061
DOUTER FOREVER BTFO

>>33081220
Finana...

>>33081330
Tempus buff.

>>33081306
Don't forget being able to make a schedule for the collabs.

>>33081282
I think they're migrating this week and will copy paste buildings using a mod.

>>33081330
It appears that Kronii's on pain meds (wisdom tooth removal, she did a twitter space).

>>33081377
anon this is the same numbers all the Sims parts have gotten, why would you compare it to Zomboid (which might as well be super-buff for Tempus)

>>33081377
Magni meme buff wears thinner, Vesper is just more popular.

>>33081266
Time zones and organizations
These girl have to wake up at godly hour to did this one collab and you want them to keep doing it for a whole month? Also none of them really want to host anything
I sometime keep hearing random anon saying Pekora organize that gameshow but I wonder how true was it

>>33081330
Bae about to catch up to Fauna kek

When you see stuff like this, does it mean the stream is being buffed by bots?

>>33081196
>>33081237
OH NO NO NO NO UNICORNBROS WHAT HAPPENED?

For real tho sub has nothing to do with her day-to-day CCV
Merch sale, maaaaybe, but we don't have number for that yet

>>33081377
>Project Zomboid
kino game choice, you'd never see any of the girls play it

>>33081306
Ok bro this is just straight up a cope

>>33081266
Timezones

>>33081459
its really the return of the old TICK TOCK INA/KIARA wars from way back when....

>>33081252
Are you a bunch of faggots? Why will you need to watch males in Hololive. Idol culture is best when is pure and good for unicorns, gachikois and goslings.

>>33081461
i'm being optimistic, it's just a connection problem.

>>33081463
Shut the fuck up you dont even watch Kronii.

>>33081377
Magni needs to decided what to focus on, he has the loopstation bit, the artist bit, the scriptwriter bit and now he's going to singing lessons but he doesn't lean on any of these potential strenghts and is just kinda the artsy/drama kid of Tempus.

>>33081449
I don't think 5 days out of an entire month are too much to ask

>>33081459
>Bae about to catch up to Fauna kek
Bae for the past like 2 weeks have been doing nothing but 1 POV collabs and buff shit on her channel while Fauna has been streaming sporadically and taking breaks. It is actually baffling that she hasn't caught up

>>33081461
Lag-spike into Z most likely. I don't see why all of you fags are so obsessed with BOTS BOTS BOTS when Zs and Lag have observed patterns we've seen for nearly a year now.

>>33081266
3 time zones vs living in one city make organizing stuff harder than it already is
Has been a problem since early Myth, is still a problem now, and will be a problem in the future unless either Kiara go back to Japan or Gura go to Sweden

>>33081538
what about this?

>>33081513
Timezones never seemed like a problem back in 2020 when they collabed all the time, if the issue is Kiara being in the EU then Kiara can just adapt. Not like she's that busy anyway.

>>33081599
Cope. Fauna is just a shitter without Gura buff.

>>33081425
>compare it to Zomboid (which might as well be super-buff for Tempus)
This sound so funny to me. Fucking Zomboid, a super buff game, in the year 2022.

>>33081602
we all know that there's no way Riku would waste money on botting LOE anyhow, nor are any of their fans on that viewfarm grind

>>33081671
ban evading already faunaschizo?

>>33081647
are you a newfag? you don't even know Z?

>>33081691
You have Vesper to blame, convinced half his fanbase that it's a good game.

Slightly worrying because it feels like the real en market is shrinking more and more. Feels like vtubing in the west is just a fade. And no niji doesn't count because half of their viewers are chinks.

>>33081461
>>33081647
Zs are the true vtuber peak without cull. They happen more to NijiEN because they're culled harder than holo.

>>33081542
Alright calm the hell down Gabe
You will have another chance to spregg out when she's back

>>33081734
Doesn't the Z mean the stream is botted?

>>33081066
>>33081188
Not a chance.

>>33081647
How new are you to not a Z

>>33081570
Myth can barely organize one gen collab due to time zone so yes asking for 1 day every week does seem a bit too much for them
Not to mention Ame autism so it HAVE to be 3D

>>33081741
>chinks.
And SEAs anon, don't forget about them.

>>33081741
They should expand their market to EU. Lots of untapped potential here.

>>33081691
The key is that Noir built the fucking foundations for that game to be a giga-buff with his first few streams and then it paid off super hard with the first hardcore Zomboid stream. His first Zomboid stream is one of the best solo streams I've seen in a while.

>>33081741
Nah when holoEN gets their 3D they would get back those fans.

>>33081599
That's exactly the same scenario that allowed Fauna to close the huge lead between them, Bae streamed like 4 times in 22 days during that time

>>33081741
Not really. Gura number are still on par with the big streamers in western market…but only Gura

>>33081762
holy shit you are a newfag.
Z graph is youtube shenanigans.

>>33081671
Neck yourself, Nijifag.

>>33081741
It's not shrinking, 90% of the EN audience just catch VODs or watch clips instead of watching it live now that lockdowns are a thing of the past.

>>33081865
anon even Kiara would be considered a big streamer (west or east)

>>33081905
Is this vodcope?

>>33081741
I mean, it kinda is
Like, the anime avatar is their only drive, and despite growing popularity, the weebs are not that powerful when put next to other form of entertainment fanbase (Capeshits, flesh streamer/Youtuber crow, just to name a few)
And honestly, I don't know how to get around this. EN entertainment is fucking wack man

>>33081944
No, it's reality, last samurai

>>33081865
>Gura
>on par with the big streamers in the West
Never knew Gura regularly hits 100k CCV like xQc does. Oh wait, she doesn't. She can't even hit 9k these days.

>>33081762
No, it's yt registering the real peak for a brief moment and then the Pajeet code "fixing it" afterwards, which is why they shouldn't be discounted from tallies.

>>33082063
>Twitch numbers
>Lying
What do we call this? Besides shitposter?

EN fanbase just moved on to JPs because ENs are lazy

>>33081905
I remember using this to explain the high number of VOD view but then you start shutting and crying because it goes against your cull theory

>>33081762
No.
Fucking no.
You've been eating too many shitposts. Zs have always been an issue on YT's end.

>>33081997
>EN scene is dying
>ID scene is just beginning few months ago

I've wanted to ask this earlier but I couldn't get the chance
This person seems familiar, like I've seen them before somewhere but not exactly sure where, any bros here know?

>>33082063
XQC is the top, most popular streamers is around 20k

>>33082063
Fix your numberrot, 5k+ and you’re good to go

>>33082129
They're just a shitposter.
The "gura can't even hit 9k" means you shouldn't have even fucking BOTHERED with it since we have the numbers for her, and anyone can easily check in Holostats/Vstats/Vrabi.

>>33081944
I mean, how many time do you watch stream for the last 3 months?

>>33082210
I think even a 10k average can make you be the top 50 English-speaking streamers on twitch.

9,3M soon
https://youtu.be/vV-5W7SFHDc

>>33082170
ID already has their version of ABK in the pass, so I'd say growing the scene in ID is way easier just by the notion of how close ID is to JP

>>33080112
>IRyS making way more SC money than Fauna despite having a debuff model and not doing any GFE pandering or ASMR
What the fuck?

>>33081997
You are retarded as fuck. You know nothing about statistics and a worse than /biz/ in prediction.

>>33082145
One being true doesn't disprove the other, they're both happening. The only one crying here is the last samurai desperate to pretend that the EN market doesn't have a far larger potential than JP.

>HoloEN dying
only HoloJP can save this company

>>33082210
Well, consider Gura is the top of EN Vtuber in term of consistency, she should be held to the same standard, no?
And no, I'm serious

>>33082353
Fauna doesn't do any GFE pandering. IRyS does

>>33082353
>Fauna
>GFE
You what

Doesn't XQC average 50-60k viewers on magic twitch numbers? Isn't Jun with youtube cull more popular?

>>33082359
What the fuck does statistic has anything to do with this?
Unless you can pull numbers to disprove that, then by all means, go ahead

enjoy your cowkini mommy, i guess that's more Oedipal experience

>>33082424
>>33082460
Catering to mommyfags is just another subset of GFE. Don't delude yourself.

>>33082081
Nijicope

>>33081997
I agree, jp can appear in radio shows, magazines interviews and collab with actual seiyuus/game producers etc. Meanwhile the only option for en is collab with twitch streamers which majority of them is controversial. Honestly, 39daph is weak shit in terms of yab level.

Reminder that Ludwig said XQC is not the biggest streamer because he gets high CCV, it's the people with literally millions of views per VOD.

>>33082469
IShowSpeed mogs Jun and every vtuber.

>>33082129
Being a nijinigger

>>33082395
Nah anon here forget that taco bell sponsorship save hololive back when they are struggling.

>>33082487
Where is JP's sold out omocat merch? Where is JP's sold out Korean cafe? Where is JP's sold out convention panel appearances with only standing room? Where is JP's record-obliterating plushie sales?

>>33082422
>"Gura can't even hit 9k"
>No, I'm serious
Pick one and only one

>>33081066
I'd give it 40k if all EN, JP and ID check them out. Needs the other girls to prop them up though especially EN and JP

>>33082554
>Catering to mommyfags
Please watch streams

The fuck happened? Why did this suddenly turn to HoloEN vs Fleshtubers?

>>33082487
Numbers and all that is statistics. You are braindead hooligans with no nothing about real numbers. You are sports fans with nothing to value more than numbers. This general is fucking cancer to real statistical analysis out there.

>>33082622
There it is.

hello # fag, what is your opinion about the Myth anniversary number compared with last year?
Is it because of tempus or did they already recline way before tempus interaction?

>>33082554
i always felt like she tried to veer more towards oneesan but her fanbase just goes mommy route.

>>33082703
Shitposter brought xQc up

The Mumei and Bae duet will do better than any of Irys's songs

>>33082579
>he says this
>meanwhile Mori is the only holo who has a Universal contract and a Rolling Stones interview
>and Gura is the only holo who has been sponsored by Taco Bell

>>33082703
Nijiniggers
Nijiniggers is what happened

>>33082806
Kino! The best and the biggest anniversary stream of hololive.

>>33082806
Poor timeslot + culled audience + most people had to watch on phones = less numbers, but the VOD views will do fine, stop doomposting some imaginary Myth recline.

>>33082848
The ______ will do better than any of IRyS songs.

>>33082638
this is a shitpost but it's actually hilarious to me that the fuckin dancing curry sponsorship is the big turning point for hololive

Kneel

>>33082677
what if there are guests? like Peko for Moona, Sora for Loafy, and Koone for Risu? would that crank the CCV? no, sora is a buff for every holomem.

>33078939
>33082806
your first one only got yourself to samefag so you tried it again and got a response, kindly consider rope nigger

>>33082996
>2 months ago last streamed

>>33082703
What in the flying fuck is a flestuber is now a new buzzword for YouTubers and streamers. By the way YouTubers and streamers are biggers in numbers that vtubers will ever be.

>>33082806
It was bad but nothings changed. Gura is the only Myth that matters. The male talent in HoloPro still don't matter. EN3 will decide the fate of the branch. If it's as good as Holox / ID3 the branch will experience a second wind. If it's a flop the branch will die and Yagoo will look to other regions for expansions.

Wtf is happening with mumei numbers?

>>33083051
Are you lost, little faggot? Why do you think this is news to us?

>>33082806
i love when mori be feminine and can't wait she wear idol outfit officially

>>33083063
And other hilarious jokes nijiniggers tell themselves!

>>33083043
Ayame exists

>>33083051
No shit retard

https://youtu.be/gkubheGDwiE
I have just realized that Kanata's new cover has english lyrics both inside the video and in Youtube CC, I checked all her orisongs and covers and this is the first time she does this and only another 4 or 5 HoloJP members do this too. She's also been shilling her last 3 or 4 songs on Reddit
Smart numberfagging? Showing appreciation to her EOP fans? trying to reach out to new people?
EOPs don't boost stream numbers so much nowadays, but songs are filled with english comments and they usually do their song reps

>>33082806
there was a lot less scuff than i was expecting, i hope they expand on the idea and do some kind of knockoff VARK karaoke collab instead of just abandoning it forever after proof of concept

>>33082353
lol?

>>33083051
>By the way YouTubers and streamers are biggers in numbers that vtubers will ever be.
And that's why no matter how big the "numbers" you think Holo gets, they will always be irrelevant and why Niji is smart to collab and integrate with fleshtubers

>>33082703
Check the NijiEN off-collab number
Check the Myth anni number

>>33083149
>she checks her channel static and her viewer mostly oversea

>>33083051
>What in the flying fuck is a flestuber
It's a tenga

>>33083149
That's probably why she posted on the Holo subr*ddit to promote the new cover to EOPs, in hopes they see the ENG CC.

>33083257
Fuck off

>>33083253
IRyS will get more after her 2 hours of SC reading

>>33083257
>can't even match Risu's singing
why bother kek

>>33083257
nice bait, prop for the ms paint effort

>>33083256
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

Mysta and Shoto are in the top 50 now.

>>33081266
they could never organize something like that

>>33083302
>IRyS will get more than her by keeping SCs on during SC readings when Fauna doesn't
Well no fucking shit retard

>>33081660
They were split into two timezones in 2020. Now its three.

>>33083257
Post it in the catalogue it'll get more yous

>>33083332
Once Vox and Mysta collab with KSI and the Sidemen, you Holobronies are fucked.

>>33083038
You don't even know how to post in 4chan,are all vtubers fans a bunch of normalfags that are redditors. Oldfags like myself are crying at the state of this website. Why the fuck happened to 4chan culture of imageboards. I am 31 years old and do want to live anymore.4 chan is gonna celebrate 20 years in 2023 and this place is nowhere is was before.

>>33083364
But they already did

>>33083253
Are you retarded or just baiting a grudge post?

actually, a lot of Nijisanji Liver who have good voice even I can say better than Sui
it's just that they can't shine brightly because they're under the shade of Nijisanji

How do we save PewDiePie bros?

>open up Mubae stream
It's in Japanese
This is your HoloEN?

>>33082850
>meanwhile Mori is the only holo who has a Universal contract and a Rolling Stones interview
Okay, spoonfed me this: Were both of those thing for the Japanese branch, or the big boy international branch of UMG/Rolling?
>and Gura is the only holo who has been sponsored by Taco Bell
Which is still less significant than Nissin, consider Gura got like 1 second of appearance and 1 stream out of it

>>33083427
>once x happens
>if x happens
>cant wait till x happens
>x will happen

>>33083483
Gura collab.

>>33083463
nijiJP? oh sure there are chima and toko.
nijiEN? yeah no.

>>33083506
Based Bae making sure Mumei gets her reps for Towa

>33083451
seethe

Liver

>>33083506
ISRAEL

2 EN chuubas speaking completely, no tl, in nippon

>>33081660
>if the issue is Kiara being in the EU then Kiara can just adapt.
Good luck with that

>>33083483
>4th in subs
Who the fuck are the other 2 that beat him?

>>33083256
Doesn't mean shit if their solo content can't pull viewers from that section

>>33083506
i will now watch your holoEN

>>33083451
Are you drunk, anon?

Whos this retard Sapling going into every thread talking her up likes shes the next big thing because shes pulling 5k? False flag?

>HoloEN has more marketability and international outreach
>their names and recognition can generate sizable sales
>however their streaming performance has been in decline
Its sad to see Myth slowly turns into nothing but a promotional piece whose use is to sell merch and other shit while their stream slowly lose relevancy and forgotten

>>33083562
sorry, holo or niji, EN never exist for me

>>33083574
A way to detect if someone is a nijifag

>>33083520
I wonder what will happen with ryeschizo once she finally debuts in EN3. I hope they give her a cute and funny model.

>>33083605
1.- T Series
2.- Cocomelon
3.-Set India

>>33083605
T-Series, Cocomelon and SET India. MrBeast is also very close to Pewds in subs and is going to surpass him soon if trends continue: >>33082996

>>33083664
No shit, probably not even a Holo fan. Why are people even engaging?

>>33083740
>>33083749
>pajeet website for pajeet users

>>33083677
Let's be honest. Myth only got popular because they got monopoly on the EN market.

>>33083740
>2 Indian channels beating Pewds
Indibros WW@

>>33083063
>as good as Holox
You mean one bland talent that streams a lot and whose popularity comes from being a leeching syncophant to Pekora, 2 inconsistent and lazy talents who wasted their potential, and two shitters?

>>33083677
Nice English

>>33083677
Purely because 3 out of 5 Myth really got a hard on for debuff shit.

>>33083918
Holox literally replaced Sankisei. It's a wildly successful gen. Seethe.

>>33083918
>2 inconsistent and lazy
Looks like chloe is back with her normal streams schedules, with like 6 streams this week, while Laplus.... yeah laplus need to get her shit straight

>>33084064
I think this is a good experiment
>Make a 5 day schedule good for numbers in the current meta

>>33084123
Iroha is arguably worse than La+

>>33084103
I like holox but even I know they are a fraction of what sankisei is numbers wise

>>33084103

>>33083063
>If it's as good as Holox
If EN3 performs the same as HoloX I can guarantee you this thread will consider it a failure.

>>33084103
They're all sub-10k midgets besides Koyori lmao

>>33084215
>they are a fraction of what sankisei is numbers wise
just like myth

>>33081066
100k+ for moona
60-70k for risu
Sub 50k for lofi

>>33084103
roru
rumao even

>>33084273
>stream monster who leeches gura
>hag nobody likes despite asking for
>background iroha clone
>superchat slut
>eceleb cock carousel slut

>>33084103
Ogey dude

>>33084386
Yeah that actually sounds pretty grim now that you lay it out like that.
Also I missed Iroha only having 4 streams this month, is she out sick or something?

>>33084543
yes, iroha was sick, her latest stream was a return zatsu where she spoke about it

>>33084386
Just give me Koyo and Lui please. We NEED a hag to wrangle these retards.

>>33082703
>magandang umaga
>Selamat pagi

>>33084610
>wrangling
stop using this stupid shit, they never wrangled anyone, it's part of why they have 0 unity

>>33084386
>eceleb cock carousel slut
but that's towa's role...

>>33084610
until you can wrangle them into the same timezone (ideally the same apartment complex) within walking distance of a Cover owned 3D studio it'll never be close to the same

>>33083257
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGER TELL THEMSELVES

Is there a reason why Teamates just don't fucking SC.

>>33084752
They improved themselves.

>>33083520

>>33084668
Toi my beloved

>>33084386
Laplus is a sweetheart who cried watching her genmates 3d debuts. Don't fall for the nijitroon propaganda against her

>>33084610
you can't wrangle anyone who is an ocean away

>>33084752
they're improving themselves

>>33082996
Is this the only fucking channel playboard will give all greens to? I swear its insanely critical of everyone