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32959802 No.32959802 [Reply] [Original]

>when you don't speak Janapese
>you can watch the girls of a well-established corpo, but you have to suffer the presence males
>you can watch the girls of a small corpo, but you must be into GFE
>vtubers of a small corpo without GFE can't survive on the market for too long
Am I missing something?

>> No.32959877

>>32959802
where is nijisanji?

>> No.32959956

>>32959802
the moment you stop thinking about this shit, the more you can enjoy anime people shitting on each other

>> No.32959966
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32959966

>>32959802
in conclusion, companies cringe and gay

>> No.32960016

>>32959877
suffering the presence of males

>> No.32960054

>>32959966
And Indies always quit too fast and can't make money, so you are fucked, that's the entire dilemma of the post.

>> No.32960099

>doesn't want gfe
>also doesn't want them interacting with m*les

what the fuck do unicorns want at this point

>> No.32960199
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32960199

>>32960054
pain-peko.

>> No.32960240

>>32960099
they don't realize they are the cancer, please andastand

>> No.32960251

>>32960099
Define unicorn.

>> No.32960276

>>32960099
OP wants no gfe and no males baka

>> No.32961165

>>32959956
actually this, if people stopped being obsessed with all this muh males, muh unicorns, muh cuck, muh ntr, muh gfe bullshit and just watched the streams they would have a lot more fun

>> No.32961394

>>32961165
While I agree with what you said I also need to tell you that these businesses like hololive niji and vshojo are all designed to seduce incels into giving them their hard earned money. Who you think buy their garbage over priced merch? Not the gigachad that can deadlift 300lb and fuck any woman he wants. But is the lonely incels who already are in one sided romance with their oshis who buy it.

>> No.32961439

So the solution would be western indies who already have a source of income and don't want to collab with males. Probably too rare.

>> No.32961548

>>32961165
Why stop there? If they weren't obsessed with anime avatars and just watched regular streamers they would have even more fun.

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>>32960199
Nah...indies deserve to die. Now go enjoy your time with the 2views you've found before they either quit, or sell out to a corpo and you drown in normie shitters. You'll be happier to capitalize on the time you have, rather than lament the time you won't or don't.

>> No.32961690

>Janapese

>> No.32961909

>>32959802
No gfe and viable. I hate gfe and don't mind guys being there.

>> No.32961963

>>32959802
>vtubers of a small corpo without GFE can't survive on the market for too long

That's not a coincidence.

GFE makes money, and small corpos don't have the money to not GFE.

>> No.32962128

>>32961909
To be honest if gfe is going bring happiness to somebody why not? The problem is. People don't know to tell an act from genuine feelings and they get way too emotionally invested gfe parasocial relationships are a service and sadly people take it way too serious.

>> No.32962208

>>32961165
And if people stopped being obsessed with muh anime and just watched entertaining personalities, female streamers as a whole would be out of a job.

>> No.32962481

>>32962208
It's striking to me how its always hololive fans that insist the only value in female vtubers is gfe unicorn fantasy type stuff and that they aren't entertaining.

>> No.32962509

>>32961548
Wrong, vtubers can and should play into their character and there are activities that are enhanced by the "virtual" aspect.

>> No.32962571

>>32962481
Because there isn’t, and they aren’t. If you removed everything but pure entertainment value from the equation, you’d watch male fleshtubers. There’s a reason why they vastly over-perform compared to their female counterparts.

>> No.32962678

>>32962571
It seems to me more like Hololive have just got a load of boring vtubers and a bunch of fans that have never tried out anything else.

>> No.32962737

>>32962678
It’s cute that you think I’m a Holofag despite me purposefully being all-encompassing with the language used.

>> No.32962781

>>32962737
So why do you think there are females in Nijisanji or Vshojo that have never attempted to pander to these types and remain highly successful?

>> No.32962869

>>32962781
Because they’re anime girls appealing to the lowest common denominator. Simple as that.

>> No.32963024

>>32962869
You still don't make sense though. They aren't playing into any of those gfe fantasy things, they collab with males regularly, the aren't pandering to unicorns and yet they still get huge audiences. What exactly is there to keep people there besides the entertainment value? You think people watch merely because of an avatar? If that was the case why are there so many female vtubers that never break 100 viewers after years.

>> No.32963213

>>32963024
>What exactly is there to keep people there besides the entertainment value?
What part of anime girl streamer do you not understand? Are you fucking stupid?

>> No.32963272

>>32963213
So you are saying they are just there for the avatar then. In which case it remains for you to explain why if all it takes is an anime avatar to be successful why are there thousands of them that never get more than 100 viewers?

>> No.32963330

>>32961963
Sometimes it's just a matter of luck. Covid brought an incredible boost to the whole VTubing industry. The companies were able to grow even without the perfect product. GFE seems like a natural starting point for new players, but someone may come up with other innovative ideas to set themselves apart from the competition.

>> No.32963441

>>32963272
>if rich people are real, how do poor people exist?

>> No.32963713

>>32963441
If some people with anime avatars do well and some people with them don't, there are factors beyond the existence of an avatar which influence their success. You have undermined your own argument.

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>>32963713
Your wisdom leaves me speechless.

>> No.32965274

>>32960276
And no women. No collabs with anyone.

>> No.32965278

>>32959802
from the vibe im getting from you, you watch twitch vtubers and probably a sub to ironlung. so i shall give (you) and fuck off

>> No.32965293

Please for the love of God stop inviting schizos towards Kawaii. I don't want /pkg/ to turn into the next /pcg/

>> No.32970735

>>32961548
>>32962208
this is such an uneducated take.
do your reps faggot. most popular holo chubas are way more fun then most of your flesh streamers. anime attached or not. most of them are NND veterans and streamed without anime avatars for years before they got into hololive.

>> No.32970883

>>32959877
on its way to the grave (losing money)

>> No.32972075

>>32962128
gfe is exploitative and will at one pointor another end up badly for the viewer.

>> No.32976650

>>32959877
Too busy collabing with an overt bigot who implies whites should be exterminated by likening us to an infestation. Nijisanji is over.

>> No.32976804

>>32960099
What's so hard to understand?
I just don't want males.
I don't want fake dating or shitty ASMR. I want a girl streaming without men.

Its that fucking simple
why are you so brain damaged?

>> No.32978119

>>32976804
Those who don't get it mainly can't grasp that the concept isn't anything new. It existed in Japan decades before the first VTuber debuted. It existed in manga, anime, VNs, and games. Those who are used to reading manga without having any relationship with the characters are simply interested in the same content in different forms. Even VTubers often call themselves "anime girls" because they are clearly aware of this legacy.

>> No.32981246

>>32959877
holofaggots like to conveniently ignore the other half of the duopoly because it doesn't fit their narratives

>> No.32982300

>>32976650
so they cooperate with people who have common sense.
good.

>> No.32982409

>Another kawaii production shill thread
You already have a general thread that doesn't die within 20 replies. Isn't that enough?

>> No.32982563

>>32960099
>>32960240
The meaning of "unicorn" lost its meaning because of you retarded tourist faggots. Go back. For the love of god just fucking go back.

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32982571

>>32982409
No

>> No.32983428

>>32959802
Dude Phase is bigger than Kawaii, stick with them.

>> No.32983515

Kawaii shilling > Phase shilling

>> No.32983661

>>32963024
Both NijiEN and JP have GFE chuubas.

>> No.32983834

>>32965293
Sorry, I want Kawaii to be successful. The girls deserve to be rewarded for their hard work. Also, /pkg/ will be fine.

>> No.32984002

>>32982300
>what niji fans actually believe
Absolutely cancerous, a divisive blight on the vtubing fandom who can't stop inserting politics into everything.

>> No.32984179

>>32965293
I want my wives to incline

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32984266

>>32982409
The shilling will continue until they're all 4 views like they deserve.

>> No.32984433

>>32984266
Lua doesn't deserve happiness

>> No.32985394

>>32960099
I had enough of males with vshojo and nijisanji, I'm tired of the shipping shit, it was new and funny at first, now I just want things to go back to normal

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>> No.32994487

>>32959877
in the trash where it belongs

>> No.32999156

>>32970883
Nijisanji literally outgrossed Hololive

>> No.32999172

>>32960054
While many indies have quit, there are plenty who are still going, and have managed to get enough viewers to support themselves.

>>32976804
If you aren't trying to see the vtuber as your girlfriend or wife or whatnot, why do you care if they collab with men?

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