/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

so whats the current big dick thing to do right now? stage 1 hard on hardcore?

korone sucks

Kiara is overpowered

what's everyone's build and character?

>tfw you have Mumei with Friend, Frozen Sea, and Light Beam
Carried me through hard stage 1

>>32911888
Mori main, but I tried Suisei for the first time last night and she's really fucking fun

>>32911930
Friend should not be able to use collabs.

>>32911996
I don't think he does, I just mean that there's projectiles everywhere

>>32911934
I just finished a run with Suisei too. She's insane with the BL fujoshi weapon. Sana is pretty fun too since you can afk with her once you have the items

>>32911888
I do Mumei, max her weapon first and then aim for Flattening Board as first collab and any of Elite Cooking, MiComet, or Broken Dreams as my second.
Also Halu level 1 ASAP, though I haven't done a Halu hard mode clear yet.

>>32912018
He does, its most obvious with Broken Dreams because he gets the giant green bubble.

>>32911309
With full Halu, yes.
>>32911412
>>32911833
No.
>>32875802
So, how your predictions turned out?

>>32911309
Endless hard mode
Halu level 5
No shop upgrades
Gacha character levels disabled
1hp mode

Some autist has probably done it by now.

>>32911996
My friend used Stream of Tears alot and that was neat since the light beams would overlap and look cool.

>>32912155
>With full Halu
i havent seen anyone beat stage 1 hard on hardcore without halu so i imagine thats a step too far right now
>>32912185
i meant more like in this thread. i havent seen anyone clear stage 1 hard on hardcore period

what's your greed build?
full halu, glasses, piggy bank, and superchat?

So. Did you beat the game, anon?

>>32912301
Unless there's a hard mode for stage 2 that I wasn't aware of, yes

>>32912280
Add in limiter

>>32912357
holy shit. what's the last item slot if you still want to beat the stage

Is there ever a time where the milk is a bad item to take?

I know people are saying Ame's outclassed by Roboco but I really like her with her buff. 60% free damage with Elite Cooking is nuts

What is the ultimate handicap setup to make the game as hard as possible?

>>32912557
how do you even play Ame? she feels very underwhelming, her skills and weapon.

>>32912275
>i meant more like in this thread. i havent seen anyone clear stage 1 hard on hardcore period
i've beaten it with Fubuki, was gonna try it again with Halu5 next

>>32912569
press a single directional button at game start and only move in that direction
For further you take the first selected upgrade only

>>32912745
if thats the hardest thing someone has done here so far then ill just set that as my goal first. did you do stage mode or endless?

what can the devs do to make it more user-friendly? the game has a lot of potentials and I respect them for putting this much work into it even though they don't need to.

>>32912878
Are you saying the game is not user friendly? What do you even mean.

>>32912820
just stage mode for now. i'm too much of a shitter to last 30 minutes with hardcore on

>>32912878
>what can the devs do to make it more user-friendly?
fix the strafe mechanic for keyboard.

Oh she eatin'
She moguin'

>>32913350
>>32913400
How many seconds did you last?

>>32913456
Less then 10

>>32912997
the pause menu should tell you what your items do, some of the effects are too distracting making it hard to dodge. I'm nitpicking since you will get used to it once you play more but it's would be nice still. I guess I should've said quality of life improvements rather than user-friendliness

>>32911222
Could multiplayer for this kind of game work?

How you get new outfits? Just roll the gacha banners?

>>32913858
you can redeem them too

>>32913858
Yeah. Or, you could just "buy" them for 15,000 coins. (you can Redeem alt outfits for 15 Tears)

Since Ina's AO-chan is the easiest way for her to kill hard mode enemies what else would one even pick for weapons and items? Damage would only really be necessary for the bosses, I guess speed and area help?

>>32912610
Rush an AOE collab and that plus her damage bonus gives you a good buffer between enemies. I also like getting the energy drink for the haste.
Her auto attack mows down enemies to make up for its abysmal range. It fires fast, can ricochet, and she gets something like 40% crit from her skills. Plus her special makes her fire even faster. On stage 2 you can pop it and kill Mikodanye before it even attacks

honestly all of the new characters feel really damn good. who's the best for pushing endless from the new chars? miko with the right upgrades feels good until like 26 minutes

>>32913587
Yes, it would probably work just like it does in synthetik. Probably would need a separate wave system to balance things out.
Unfortunately neither this game, VS, or 20MTD have decided to go multiplayer which really messes with me because I prefer playing games with friends over playing alone. I understand it though, since it'd probably require as much work as remaking the game from scratch would.

>>32914257
Roboco really likes endless because of higher scaling and the level-dependent bonuses she has. It's a lot of fun.

Sana seems fun. any item recommendation on her?

>Mio's special is Star Platinum
Holy fuck SOVL. She's possibly the weakest character but that special is amazing.

My gauntlet's still thrown down. Someone top this holocoin count.

>>32914551
Knightly Milk, increasing her area bonuses also increases her damage.

>>32914680
https://youtu.be/YNv5UziZHII
Fubuki drew that for her

does anyone know how to cheat coins or unlocks? It turns out they were pretty serious about the savefile not being transferable between computers.

>>32914850
Legendary. The official art by her papa is a masterpiece.

>>32915385
Why would it not be transferable?

>>32915567
idk man ask kay. I just wanna sync my progress to my laptop. Might try to stream it over nvidia or something.

>>32915759
Man that's so weird.

>>32915385
google holocure save editor.

>>32915854
Here's what you get if you launch with a foreign save

First State 2 endless "clear"!

>>32916224
IRyS lowkey fucks hard in this version. Anyone who can dunk El Grande Migo in seconds is strong.

>>32912878
Actually give you the option to view character unique skills outside of gameplay.

>>32916082
>Inside the HoloCure's save data, the first 80 characters is a PC identifier
lmao nice. I think I can make a pwsh script that corrects this and syncs it through my nextcloud.

Does Suisei's axe skill work with MiComet or only Endless BL?

>>32916308
A few months ago, IRyS complained that her character was too weak.
She wanted a buff and I guess Kay Yu listened.

>>32916732
Both

>Use controller once
>Game stops responding to my keyboard forever

>>32916754
I'll have to give her a shot. Irys never really clicked with me on previous versions

>>32916754
The opinions of all EN members on any game's balance should be disregarded as a rule. IRyS was fine before. I remember someone playing Fauna for like 10 minutes and declaring her the best character for NO OTHER REASON than she had an autoaim attack. ENs are bad.

>>32916973
They should take my opinion and buff Ina, because she's my oshi.

>Mumei
>only Atk spd upgrades
>afk and go to ∞ in endless

i still think he should have reworked astrology. not because sana is weak, cause shes not, shes very strong. but because astrology is just a stupid skill

What are the effects of G-rank again and how far up does it go?

>>32917534
Up to 20 it increases stats by 1% per level. After that it's just dick measuring.

>>32917582
Ah okay. Thanks. I was wondering why I was able to get past 20.

>>32917582
Nothing wrong with a big dick

>>32915385
Use a generic online save editor, not to cheat or anything but to make it compatible with a different computer. Make a new save on the new computer and then copy the stuff in the curly braces {}. https://www.saveeditonline.com/

>>32911888
roboco
get specs/skills/pick up range, max weapon asap
walk the game ez with whatever else you want
the start can be a bit rough

>>32912025
>Sana is pretty fun too since you can afk with her once you have the items
What?

>you can block bullets with blue takodachis

>>32920814
Evolve planets to max
Get limiter
Get Milk
Just chill

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but apparently Super Knightly Milk actually overrides hardcore modes 1HP

I still suck ass and either die at 5 min in hard mode or dodge enough to get to 20 but then die at 25 as I cant kill Bae.
What shop upgrades are essential? Guessing speed and damage but how much?
How many times should I upgrade collab weapons? I think I am almost there but I just need dps and speed early as I cant get distance enough to strafe.

Best collab?

>>32922674
Most likely still Elite Cooking. Got nerfed a bit, but it still provides the highest potential damage over a wide area.

>>32922674
Flattening board by a long shot especially on Ina/Gura/Susei. I finally found raw damage numbers otuside of trying to guess the average on screen and its already better than everything else before the bonus

>>32923505
If you have numbers post them! Do you have the other collabs too?

>>32922674
I'd say Flattening board, you can see it's power as soon as you get it and you won't lose out much if you combine the weapons needed for the collab.

>>32913959
wait, can tears be used as coins?

>>32924645
No.

>>32923505
>I finally found raw damage numbers
Damage numbers alone won't determine what's best. Elite Cooking was clearly better pre-patch despite lower numbers, because it provided overlapping fields of damage, not to mention a much less random attack power. haven't tested since the patch, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's still better overall, at least at high haste levels

>>32922674
Dragon Fire has the best dps

>>32923714
BI Asacoco- 28-52 with 5 projectiles
Dragonfire- 7-13
Elite cooking- 9-16 4 circles
Idol Concert- Glowstick 14-26 Explosion 28-53
Fujoshi- Axe 15-26 Book 5-10
Micomet- Meteor 35-64 Lava 15-27
Flatterning Board- 46-83 Impact 7-13 30% more with Pettan bonus
Light beam- Glowstick 13-22 laser 28-52

Data hasent been collected on the others and damage intervals on Micomet Dragonfire and Elite arent in. Nerfed Elite Cooking is now in line with everything else and solid but not overwhemlingly good

whats the idea in fighting migo? is there a way to do damage while she's attacking?

>>32926184
Once she starts firing she cant turn the cone of flame as fast as you can move. You can walk around it and keep wailing on her. Just stay ahead of it and move to an area yoyu will have room to move

>>32926184
She can't change the direction of her fire that much once she starts blasting so circle around her and slap her ass.

I've never done a speed build before, this is nuts.

>>32926652
I hope you run into enemies when Friendzone pops

>>32926652
I just tried kronii for the first time and with the energy drink I was on Perfection mode the entire time, I only took like 4 hits in the whole stage.

Best and worst new character?

>>32925637
Thanks!

>>32922674
Overall I'd say flattening board. It's just too damn good on most characters and hits hard enough to make maxing out halu early on a breeze because of how much of the screen it covers. For stage 1 hard it's also helpful to make it the first priority because bomb and cutting board make it simple to kill things while running, which also helps make up for characters with poor starting weapons like Mr. Koro.

extremely scuffed run but its done
plushie + headphones +5% regen from perfectionist + bandage regen is ridicoulously tanky
people see kronii as weak cause you lose perfectionist when youre hit, but 5% regen is crazy good too

>Legitimately didn't notice there were more upgrade levels with this update
Well that explains why a lot of the posts in this thread were getting way more gold than I was.

>>32914790
71k

It's time to GACHA!

>>32931578
if you refund all the upgrades, you can gacha even harder
shh just do it

>>32926541
>>32926465
oic, thanks

>>32931808
What a great idea!!!

whats the meta for getting past 40 minutes?

Bae on a controller
https://youtu.be/9T0NNiPGHMQ

Wish the limiter was a full screen magnet at max level

>>32911888
I go berserk korone

>>32935017
Its pretty close especially with Milk. The reular movements you do keeping your kill pattern going is usually enough to grab everything anways

is Ollie the first holo who clear a stage with halu 5?

>>32927629
Probably Roboco. Not only are abilities strong the boost to leveling means you can easily grab all the power-ups you want faster than everyone never falling behind the curve

Worst is hard because none of them are bad. Its probably Sora because shes the least spectacular when you look at things like level 80+ Roboco 4 digit damage crit Susei and "FAQ Ill just hit the entire office" Miko

>>32911888
Speedy Tako

>>32936175
I agree with Sora.
I only died once using the new characters (Okayu) and it was a careless mistake.
I've played using Sora (no rank) 3 times and she always dies at 19th minutes.
I've completed the upgrades from the shop and Sora is level 9 now from gacha, maybe I'll try my next game with her.

>>32934796
>controller
neuron activation

>>32934443
The meta is doing something else with your life.

So for farming gold I'm not sure if the time taken to get to 30 minutes with halu is better than the finishing bonus and faster runs. I'm thinking of sticking with stage 1 for farming since it's the easiest to just faceroll without paying attention, but it's so much faster now any way you slice it.

What's the best stage to grind money on without going full minmax
I wanna try all the new characters but I'm not ready for hard mode max halu full coins yet

>>32936586
>>32936568
I think stage 2 normal is better because you get 1.2 times more coins than stage 1 normal.
Stage 1 normal is easier than stage 2 normal though.
But you're playing Mumei, right?

>>32936416
Shes meant to work with healing as a supplament to her kit but not a central feature unlike Fauna.Really shes about pumping her damage and going "Oh yeah I got damage off a heal too"

>>32936586
The original stage is fine and since its not as hard pile on Halu and pull in tens of thousands with shop coin upgrades

roboco build pls

>>32937038
Study Glasses and EXP boosts will give you so much EXP you can do anything you want and get an attack off leveling. I liked going for ALL the collabs filling the screen with crap

finally beat Stage 1 Hard Endless with my oshi

i love it when I die because the mobs are blocking field obstacle and I can't move

how do you beat yagoo?

>>32937711
You can't.
Yagoo is "Kill one, spawn one thousand more".

>>32937711
the golden one or the endless swarm?
the golden one goes off hits, any hit makes him drop one coin, if you have haachama cooking or an aoe collab going youll shred him

>>32936813
Honestly I've played enough as Mumei for farming and I don't want to grow tired of playing her. I'll just play as anyone, Mumei is a bit better and more afk but not so much that you can't just play as anyone. Stage 1 max halu is just as easy as stage 1 no halu, where some of the things in stage 2 can get dicey with max halu unless you're also taking defensive items.

>>32936175
Sora has the worst super
The wings should do damage

>>32938809
Yeah but she'll be great for the co-op mode

do enemy scale with your current level in any way?

>>32938809
Yeah but stacking 50% to all damage is really nice so its not a total loss like Mumei or Okayu vs bosses

>pick halu 5
>die
keeps happening

>>32939240
ive killed a few bosses accidentally as okayu
since its also a 8 second invincibility and all your weapons still fire, aside from bosses with jumps (ame and bae) you could feasibly use your invuln to park yourself infront of the boss and dump in face for 8 seconds
the trash will path into you anyway

Yeah just playing around I think stage 1 stage mode, with max halu early is the go-to for farming. You don't need any defensive items and can just focus on getting kills. You might earn more per time on stage 1 endless or stage 2 with halu, but stage 1 normal + 5 halu is easy and you don't need any active playing.

Also don't be a dumbass like me and fail to notice that several shop upgrades (including coins) have new levels. If I'd noticed that earlier I wouldn't be needing more coins now to finish off everything.

>>32940027
Yeah its fine just not getting the benefit that Fubu or a FauFau would or lasting as long

kek has anybody not succumbed to golden yagoo tunnel vision? I love that thing.

>>32912275
I keep dying at about minute 12. end up missing a brat biting my ankles and dying

Which characters have alternate sprites?
Fubuki has a Kurokami version, I've gacha all the new characters but it seems only FBK has it.
It seems Mumei also has it >>32913350

>>32940642
myth and council have alt outfits

>>32940642
All EN + Fubuki

>>32915385
>>32915567
The savegame is encoded in base64, so if you decode it, you'll find some gibberish characters at the start of your decoded savegame.
These gibberish characters are your unique ID for your savegame, might be a hash code for your system (OS + hardwares you use).
If you copy someone's else savegame, the savegame contains his unique ID.
The solution is to replace his unique ID with your own (an empty savegame is OK, just need the ID).
But if you're not tech savvy, just google the HoloCure save editor.

I can't clear a stage unless I am using Miko

>>32940748
>>32940773
Great, now I have to gacha them again even though they are at rank 30 (I grinded a lot 2 months ago).

imagine if there are gen collabs that needs 4-5 weapons to craft it

>clear hard mode
>suddenly super tired
It's over for me bros I don't think I an handle it when Kay Yu goes full bullet hell mode next patch.

whew

Fuck Halu makes the end of stage 1 lag. Stage 2 doesn't seem to spawn as many enemies, but 5 halu at the 19 minute wave with something like elite cooking is just pure lag.

Dear fucking lord, I did it. The jump in difficulty between regular stage 1 and hard mode is insane. I would for sure have died within the first five minutes if I hadn't gotten Kiara feather right away. Aside from that I got pretty unlucky with drops, barely got any weapons, had to make do with just Orayo Elite Cooking for most of it. In fact I've been noticing this in most of plays, I wonder if they messed with the drop rates or if it's just in my head.
Also I feel like you need some speed boosts to get by in this stage, I only got one and it was kinda late when the Sanalites were already showing up. The Bae boss is really easy though.

>What if I don't kill A-chan, what if I grind the mobs a bit before finishing her off I'm so clever
>2 minute mark

>>32942023
Now with some halu.

>Also I feel like you need some speed boosts to get by in this stage
Yeah if you don't have all 10 speed upgrades it can get tight, but that was only really a problem with halu.

Halu bonus is real

>>32942275
What about a slow character with no speed boosts? It should still be possible just difficult or is it grindwall that you will need to climb?

Finally finished hard 1 stage with fatto catto.
Hard 1 endless Full Halu here we go.

So is there still a build that can survive YAGOO?

>>32942641
If you're slow in Stage 1 hard you're dead.

>>32942288
Check this out

how do you build Mumei for stage 2? I keep doing at around the 5 minute mark
>>32937542
beating stages with your oshi feels pretty nice. can't wait for the devs to add more characters

Halu 5 stage 1 hard farming how?
The problem for me is I level fast early, possibly not fast enough, but stop doing enough damage later on. Levelups just dry up in the last 5-8 min.

>>32938923
Is that a thing or are you just speculating?

>>32942789
Roboco's leveling keeps her ahead of the curve. EXP glasses can also help a lot

so what's the build for tanking yagoos in endless hard for this patch?

>>32942848
I had the perfect start on Roboco with like 100% uptime on her leveup powerup or ult for 5 min and Study Glasses 4 and still shit the bed later. Skill issue probably but feels like she just stops leveling at some point and the snowball falls apart.

>>32941080
I'm still trying to beat stage 1

>>32942641
I can barely survive with max ranked Moomay + SPD level 5 from shop.
Need to get SPD Up twice (SPD 70+) so I can kite the mobs.
In my next game, I refunded the upgrades and max SPD level 10 (SPD 74) and I had easier run than my prev because of higher SPD.
Both run didn't have Halu, I tried Halu the first time I play hard mode and only survived for 6 minutes.

>>32942787
Mumei is pretty easy if you can get her weapon maxed quickly. This may require some skill in strafing. Rush weapon and then go for collabs and you should be fine.

>>32943030
>that speed
what rank is FBK?
how many speed upgrade did you buy from the shop?
how high is her speed stat?

How am I supposed to do Stage 1 Hard with Ame?

>>32927629
Based only on how easy it is to hit min 30 in office and hard mode 1 with halu 5 for the former
Best is Miko since she gives you easy win for hard 1 while still handles office without much problem. Her ceiling past 23 min isn't that great compared to other top tier new holos like suisei though.
Worst is easily Azki because her only statboost is +30% haste and this completely dissapears (!) if she takes any damage even once with long charge time. So she is basicly a worse kronii in everything with much better starting weapon as her only advantage.

>>32943256
For any characters, get enough speed to outrun the mobs.

>>32943230
Only 5 upgrades in shop

>>32941080
like normal Ame?

>>32943370
FBK's rank?

>>32943256
Everyone is pretty much the same you just need slightly more speed and go hard for collabs. I recommend Mumei's clears they show how her very basic leveling strategy (maxing weapons and then collabing rather than spreading or buying skill levels early) can carry someone on pure dps. She also has pretty great movement when she's not distracted.

>>32942787
>beating stages with your oshi feels pretty nice.
Sure, but some characters like Sora just aren't built to handle Endless runs. I had to do multiple attempts just to succeed once.
And those last 6 minutes were basically me running like hell just to survive. Sora's legs must be tired, lol.

>>32943256
ame is pretty lacklustre in general, worst ranged weapon and all her ultimate does is fire it faster
speed is a must like >>32943308 said
even little things like the fast kfp/rat drive bys need speed cause they count as an event with shield guardian hp in hard, theyre not just free xp and you will get hurt by them unless youre okayu

>>32943415
5. It's more fun in the other stages with more kiting room

>>32942787
Unironically watch Mumei's playthrough of her Mumei stage 2 clear, the only thing I'd do different from her is buying Friend 1 earlier. Also if I recall she didn't rng exp glasses until minute 19 but do pick those up if they come up.

>stage 1 normal for gold
>Don't get halu at all
I think halu is so important that if I don't get it by 5 minutes I'll just restart. The advantage from getting it earlier is bigger than glasses. Stage 1 just feels so boring now without halu.

>>32943308
how much is enough? full upgrades in the shop?

>>32943308
>>32944022
SPD 74 is enough based on my Moomay play (max rank + SPD level 9 from shop).
She has 80 speed now (max rank + max SPD from shop).
Each rank gives you +1 to all stats.
Each SPD upgrade gives you +6 to SPD stat.

I love Okayu so much it's unreal

>>32944022
>>32944142
SPD 68 is not enough, I can run straight from the mobs but if I want to circle the mobs, I got hit when I was turning.

>>32943899
Why not stage 2 for gold?

>>32944278
Because stage 1 is a lot easier to afk/semi-afk.

Bae sucks but took Halu because she thought it gave free coins.

>>32944466
Stage 2 is still easy for Moomay.
I got 71k in Stage 2 Endless mode (no winning bonus) >>32931163

>>32944170
I really like playing with Okayu. I have a suicidally aggressive playstyle and mogu-mode lets you target fixate on anything you want or get out of jail free. She's the first I was able to clear stage 2 with.

G. Rank 23 Mori, 83 tears and still no Ame outfit...

>>32944466
If you have upgrades, stage 2 is ridiculously easy even with level 5 Halu.

I can not finish stage 2 with Sora, might be a skill issue but I've died at the 12 minute Pioneer march a few times. Last time I died at 18 minutes, but I think I melted Miko because I don't really remember her at all. Is Energy Drink 1 bugged? I only got a +1% haste boost instead of the %10

>>32944821
>83 tears
You can redeem her outfit.

Haven't seen anyone mention it but the nerf to Calli's scythe range really hurts. Not the end of the world, but it's a pretty big nerf. Calli is fun with high halu though because she gets better the more enemies there are, and the growth upgrade helps keep her scythe's damage relevant.

>>32944912
I like seeing the number of tears go up.

Knew the run would be good when I got super gorilla paw. Item is borderline broken along with glasses. Regardless I think Fubuki is the easiest to reach 30 mins with. Not strong at clearing waves but the movement speed and evasion more than make up for it.

>>32944996
lmao

>>32940642
>Which characters have alternate sprites?

>>32945309
Update your game cheater

>>32945451
It's updated.

>>32945419
>>32940773

azki has no fucking damage, even with good passives and collabs I'm getting cucked in the mic wave

>>32945481
Post your main screen.

Has anyone ran into a bug where sometimes, late-game, trying to pick up a Holozon box will cause the game to completely freeze and require to be shut down via task manager?

New meta build? Please rate it.

>Friendzone(Level 3)
Gain a buff that increases SPD by 30%. On the next hit taken, consume the buff to dodge the attack and gain 100% SPD and 100% dodge for 3 seconds. The buff returns after 12 seconds.

>Kon Kon(Level 3)
Gain a 10% chance to dodge attacks. When dodging, there is a 80% chance to create a noise burst dealing 150% damage.

>Fubuki Storm(Special Attack)
Summon many katanas, flurrying around for 5 seconds. During this time, Fubuki dodges all attacks.

Build consists in charging into enemies on purpose when Friendzone buff is active. Friendzone will grant 100% dodge chance for 3s and every hit that MISSES, has 80% chance to proc Kon Kon, dealing 150% damage to enemies nearby.
Kon Kon can also trigger while Fubuki special attack(Fubuki Storm) is up, who also grants 100% dodge when it's active.

Kurokami/Shirakami Fubuki.
STAGE 1(HARD) ENDLESS MODE.
HARDCORE ENABLED / ALWAYS AT1 HP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrMrEZJzV_c

HD processing.

>>32945540

>>32945581
Mine is older and I barely get any Super item, like once every 10 runs.
It seems the dev have increased the Super item rate.
Well, time to update and test the game.

>>32945552
nope, haven't encountered that bug at all. maybe it's your pc. try turn off your damage numbers, screen shake, and effects

>>32945690
Oh don't worry, you still rarely get super items. This is the only run I've posted out of my hours of endless successes/fails where I got any super items. RNG gives once, takes forever.

>>32945500
IRyS...

>>32945768
She has a Santa outfit

>>32945794
REALLY?

>>32945815

Suisei is the best character in Holocure and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>32945815
Merry christmas, Irystocrat.
Hohoho

Best items to pick when coin farming aside from glasses/SC?

First clear! Wasn't that bad, just had to get past the beginning part and survive the barrage before the boss. Everything else was pretty easy.

>>32945794
Yes, gacha or redeem for 15 tears.
>>32945750
I never get more than one super item in my run.
And I've played lots since the new characters was released (I didn't play the buggy version where you can get all super items).

>>32945985
I also got lucky with getting a golden item near the end. Probably helped with defeating Bae.

>>32945980
Halu.
It spawns more enemies, but it also gives you lots of coins.

>>32945881
It's no kimono but cool!

>>32945988
Don't have an image but in the archives of these threads on warosu back when I did stages I'd get a lot of gold items and it seems it was the same for a lot of the posted clears in the last few days. And I don't think it was the bugged version because boxes didn't guarantee super. Maybe they lowered the rates even more since then?

>>32945988
>I never get more than one super item in my run.
Same here. I just get 1 at most.
I dunno how you guys can get 3 supers in one run.

>>32946154
The version >>32945690 I play is the patch for the buggy super item rate and I almost never get any in my run, like once every 10 games.
Even if I get it, I only get one super item, no more.
>>32946189
Same.

>>32945512
Yea, her damage sucks. You need damage, health, and defense upgrades + the Yagoo Dakimakura if you want to play weaker characters in stage 2.

>>32946189
The longer you have open item slots the greater the chance. Honestly I think if they're going to remain super rare then the boxes should be able to upgrade the base item into the super variant. I'm probably never going to see super glasses because leaving it for a long time isn't worth the gamble.

>>32946318
>playing super item bug patch
>not getting more than 1
bro stop picking up items that can be super you lock yourself out of them. on that patch I'd consistently get 5 or even a full inventory of them

>>32946318
>>32946189
I forgot to tell you that I haven't tested the newer version >>32945581 that you play.
I suspect they increase the rate OR they enable multiple super items.
Maybe they locked one super item in the version I play.

>>32946416
I almost never take Gorilla Punch and I only found it once in all my plays.
I sometimes still have 1 passive item slot empty in the last 3 minutes, no super items appear especially that Gorilla Punch which I never take because the normal one lowers Crit.

>>32946416
>on that patch I'd consistently get 5 or even a full inventory of them
Are you sure you're not playing the buggy version?
Post your main screen.

>>32946542
oh I thought you were talking about the super bug version. that's the version I meant. the previous ones before that buggy patch a day or two ago I'd get either zero or 2-3, same as now

>>32946603
>playing the buggy version

>>32946770

>>32946770
yeah on current patch I get 2 at max. the 5 is only on the bugged version of course

>Okayu gonna play Holocure
yab

>>32945955
Suisei a shit

Just played the new update, Bae surprisingly great with Frozen Sea, Broken Dream and Rap Dog

>>32947270
If you genuinely think that, you don't know how to properly build her.

Just had it crash on me for the first time. I was playing Mio in the office and the Roboco mascots had showed up and things just froze going for a box.Sad never happened before

>>32947470
>properly build her
Mating press and nakadashi.

>>32939314
it's a cyanide pill for whenever you can't die in endless.

>>32945955
I like everything about how she plays except for her main attack becoming invisible after getting any collab weapon.

hey is ame bugged for someone else in holocure? when I press z to fixate her weapon to a side she doesn't seem to be able to walk diagonally left-down

sometimes going big in the office ,just, kills you? from full health
i died as big sana

>>32947815
Her main attack is nice early game, but fuck it after that. Your bread and butter will focus solely on Stellar and things that hit shit as often as humanly possible.

why the fuck dont the wall batteries or wall microphones have shields or a pallete swap to mark them as tanky guardians
i didnt notice it playing other characters but when youre just staying still comfy as sana or fauna a wall of flesh just comes towards you and you dont realise its supposed to be a wall event until you die

>>32947974
Was it the BotonBomb?

'ure on 'eck

Anyone tried using Okayu for endless runs?
I think she can become invincible with that sensitive skill with enough crit and haste.

>>32948246
this was just after a-chan deletes her units to appear, and shes not under me but offscreen
there shouldnt be anything to kill me here, i assume i just got stuck in a space sana cant fit
the feather didnt even proc

What are your favorite items in the game? Mine is picrel.

>>32948470
The super version of that.

>>32948532
I keep forgetting that exists. The game has only ever decided to give it to me once.

>>32948664
Play the "special feature" >>32947076 version, anon.

>>32948824
no

Im pretty sure i rolled for council 20 times and still only have a g0 fauna (that i had to savescum for)

>>32948532
>>32948664 (me)
Speak of the devil and it shall appear, apparently.

>>32949156
you could've just redeemed the tears

>>32949220

>>32949229
Are you a girl? Most of those were prepatch and fafaus costume costs likr 17

whoa easy with the favoritism now

Who should I play as if I suck?

There is just no way right? the game is fucking with me

Is Roboco better than Mumei for farming money?

>>32949870
Buy her with the tears, it's there to help you when RNG fucks you up.

I just did my first stage 1 hard run, and I'm sure it's been posted before and I just haven't seen it, but Ina's friendly takodachis have collision with the bullets. I kept hearing the damage noise against Bae and thought I was getting hit somehow but my health wasn't moving at all. Finally noticed that the damage numbers were popping up on the takodachis and I could just use them as a shield

>>32949854
Are you at least using a controller? Try Kiara or RBC

>>32911833
Kiara is super strong early game. Baelz is easily the strongest when doing endless modes though, 4x damage multiplier outscales everyone else's damage buffs, and her special instakills everything if you have a collab or two.

>>32950058
No, why? I don't own one. Strafing isn't a problem for me, it's various fuck-ups in middle game.

>>32949968
I thimk?

>>32950107
I'm pretty bad without one. So is it you playing badly or choosing poorly?

>>32950107
If you dont own a controller youre not a real gamer

Well this was an okay run. Waiting for a non-shit 6th item took forever so I lost out on quite a few level-up coins. Halu was a little late, never got glasses, and probably directly cost myself 2-3k by going for a 4th collab I probably didn't need.

Flattening Board, Elite cooking > Frozen Sea > stream of tears, then axe > asacoco as the last weapon.

>>32950235
Actually I should maybe consider trying rap dog in place of tears, see if that 15% bonus damage actually makes a difference. Tears takes a pretty long time to complete a rotation.

>>32950189
Playing badly
>>32950203
Never claimed I was, I rarely play games

Are the unlockable items random or do you have to get to certain score goals to unlock them?

>>32912275
>>32940508
I cleared it with halu5 and hardcore just now, god that was awful

>>32950398
None are random. Some are survive 10 minutes as a character, beat a stage, complete the stage with >5k coins or sake, etc.

Got Kiara's (same) outfit twice from gacha.
And it seems you can even redeem a girl's costume even if you already have it.

>>32950398
Read the rentry link in OP post.

>>32950395
Kiara's special lets you come back if you die for a brief period, she's all around pretty good I think but the respawn is why I recommended her. Miko is pretty good and she has a big swing for her attacks so aiming isn't too important, her main weapon is good, and her skills buff her to be pretty strong and tanky. Her Elite skill buffs the other "Elite" weapons too, so Elite Cooking for sure, her primary, and I think Lava bucket and either of it's collabs. Nothing is really going to fix poor play except getting better, but if you don't know your what works with your character you might not be picking the best items for it or items that work together. The rentry link in the OP has a section for tips, I haven't read it but it might be helpful.

looks like korone is playing it later too

Who seems strong this patch? Who seems weak?

>>32951115
Personally
Strong
>Korone
>Okayu
>Fubuki
>Roboco(Specifically for endless)
>Miko
Weak
>Sora
>Mio
>Azki
Not sure where Sui lands, haven't played her at all.

>>32943030
>all those dodge bursts
はー早い!!

Is Ina still invincible?

>>32951168
Suisei's decent, her mechanic is stacking crit, which gives her attack boosts and falling tetris blocks to damage enemies. Her main weapon is alright, but its range and AoE aren't as good as Mori or Miko. Also, her tetris block gimmick falls off at higher levels of Halu, so she needs strong AoE collabs to clear the tanky chaff that comes with it. She also has a weaker Nurse's Horn when using axe weapons (i.e. her main weapon, Psychopath Axe and Micomet).

so how does the crit % work
you can still crit on 0%, with +crit per level you can get moree than 100%
so what does the ingame % actually mean, if its not the percentage chance of you actually critting
this really only comes to mind cause of GSW pill, what is 15% crit actually

>try stage 2 for the first time
>get booty blasted by the mikochi boss

So who's the new OP character like Mumei was?

>>32951554
It's Mikodanye my dear ENfag

waited over 5 minutes for the golden anvil and it never spawned

>>32951577
Mikochi's pretty good, her passive heal is strong enough that she can use Injection-type Asacoco and still maintain net HP gain with Full Course Meal.

>>32951168
>Korone
really? maybe i'm just ass but she's not playable unless i max her main attack in early game.

>>32951643
Why did it take 24 minutes to prepare your collab?
You should get them ready under 10 minutes.

why aren't sapling affected by pickup radius?

>>32951577
Even after the nerfs and bug fixes Mumei is still the best. Miko might be second with Calli being nerfed, but I'm uncertain. Roboco would be better if endless mode went on longer, but 30 minutes isn't even enough time for Roboco to catch up to Mumei. Kiara's buffs also put her in a much better place but I don't think she's competing for the top spot.

>>32951663
She's really beefy, can tank hits and is crazy good if you focus on haste and attack damage. Her ult is garbage and only really useful for picking up yubis early game if you still don't have her brainwash skill though.

Kronii's buffs+the reworked Energy Drink and Facemask is absurd. I feel crippled playing other characters now on Stage 1 Hard now since I basically glide past every attack with Kronii and nuking everything with Haste boosted attacks.

>>32951682
They already had 2 collabs. 24 minutes is still pretty late to get your third one ready, but it's not unheard of.

Is using chicken feather cheating? I usually scoff at the whole "If you used X then you didn't really beat the game" meme, but even I find the idea of free revies to be going too far.

>>32951897
wouldn't say cheating but you really shouldn't need it outside of a meme hardcore run, it's just there so the more retarded hololive members can clear

>>32951682
how are you getting all your collabs under 10 minutes

>>32951897
when youre giving up a slot that could be 50% dmg, 35% reflect, complete immunity for 1 second, 10% hp regen
no, i think its a balanced effect if were talking endless or hard
for just normal stage 1 yeah probably bullshit

should I take haste ups? It's the only powerup I consider before clearing the pool, there's so few ways to increase it for most characters

>>32951975
On a slightly related tangent, I really appreciate how the new equipment has added so much more flexibility in playstyle. It was pretty stale before where you pretty much needed a specific kit to make it through endless.

>>32952064
Haste was already one of my most saught stat-ups next to health before the update. And now that health's been nerfed it's easily the best one for me.

bros, does the cutting board actually get bigger / smaller depending on the character?

>>32952119
Yes. Gura, Ina, and Suisei all get bigger boards.
It'd be funny if they did extra damage to A-chan too.

>>32952113
You ought to give Mr Koro a try, the sheer amount of haste she gets baseline is ridiculous.

>>32952119
Yes.

>>32952119
It does but it's not a huge difference and it doesn't make it a worse weapon or anything. They just did it as a little gag.
I kinda wish there was a bigger difference between big and small size and also maybe a mid size.

>>32952148
she gets retarded haste but her only attack buff is on getting hit and it has a really long cooldown

>>32952148
Yeah, Korone and Kronii are haste beasts. I wonder if as more and more characters get added we'll start having informal classifications for different playstyles. Like you've already got crit characters like bae and Suisei, or heal characters like Fauna and Okayu.

>>32952187
Yeah. I feel like there should also be a nerf if used by titty monsters. Flattening board is already OP enough that it could afford to be weakened for specific characters.

https://youtu.be/v5p8eHiO0ks

Reine

Best weapons and clothes after the update?

>>32952064
haste works on all weapons as a direct firing speed upgrade
5% haste is 5% damage straight up

>>32952323
some of the new characters badly need their ult so idol clothes is more sought after

>>32952292
what the hell is this piss poor gacha luck

>>32952392
I'm spamming Mio's ult because one of her skill increase the refresh rate of her ult.
I haven't tried it but Idol Costume should make her refreshes her ult faster.

just finished first stage with her, what're you guys running for azki item wise? might swap out headphones for idol costume unless it's a halu run because of her built in evasion and maybe add face mask in the last slot. don't mind the shitty weapons, needed to unlock the tears collab and went for idol concert because it looked cool and stage 1 is piss easy

How the fuck do you kill the rat???

So how god a job would you say this new update did in balancing existing characters/items? What sort of balances could you see being done in the next update?

>>32952763
Just hit her bro it's that easy

>>32952765
The red circle/line colors. You can't see shit if you have micomet on.

>>32952783
I did. For 8 fucking minutes!

anyone tried 1hp hard mode?
made it to 14 minutes
without the body pillow it's hard to even make it past 1 minute

>>32952765
pretty much all the item nerfs were set to cuck IRyS with flat numbers instead of percentages, but I still breezed through stage 2 and hard mode without much pain so seems like he got it right

>>32952800
You didn't hit her hard enough.

>>32952763
dont try to challenge her upclose, just keep poking her at max clock range to keep her stunlocked managed it earlier with a much tankier build
if you have enough speed you can run out each curved line sideways touhou style
apologies for the mario party audio it was in the background https://streamable.com/q7uana

>>32952765
mori nerf feels a bit rough combined with stage 2 having stronger stuff in general, and halu increasing stats makes death combos even more awkward.
All the other old characters feel great, especially irys's innate crit buff and fauna's stupid sapling missing her and coming to you so you don't have to pick them up.

>>32952763
Just kite, bob and weave. The Yagoo Dakimakura helps a lot.

>>32952763
>kronii
>28 minutes
>with BL collab
don't even know how that's possible, record that shit

>>32952804
>>32950431

Why are none of the girls playing with a controller (except Bae who's retarded). They all have consoles.

>pre-update runs: 3-6k
>post-update runs: 50k plus
hyperinflation

>>32952910
controller are for baby

>>32952763
Your build is awful, youve both got only 1 collab, one that isnt even particularly good for bosses, and a random assortment of items that doesn't give you particularly good defence or offence.

>>32952910
>Girls
>Reading the patch notes

>>32952914
I was getting 12k with Ina in endless pre-update. But yeah the inflation is crazy.

>>32952914
It's gonna get nerfed kek. Start hoarding those coins.

>>32951577
FBK, hard moves ridiculously fast to where you either need to be killing quick or out speed past a certain point. FBK does the latter, but is even more special in that she can just delete shit as long as you have some density. Someone else posted the setup above but essentially you just rush FBK's 3 skills, this will give you an invincibility that counts all incoming hits as dodge, she has yet another passive that has an 80% chance on dodge to cause a little burst. In your i-frames the game does not have an internal cooldown on the ability or stuff hitting you. What's more the invincibility maxes out at 4 seconds of invincibility every 12 seconds. So you basically gather monsters until your CD on the iframes is up, then run face first through the mob and proc 30-40 instances of 150% damage real quick and basically delete bosses if they are in the mob.

For bonus popping your special also has all hits being dodged while it's going so it's a great "Damage now" by basically going let your buff come up run into the pile extra long, then "extending" your invincibility with special. I've found also because your exp tends to sit in the middle it's best to pick up either knight milk or limiter (preferably the former as it scales the aoe of your skill). Also Halu especially nice here with our whole "Density=Damage" we have going on.

Oh and ofc your fbk will be outrunning everything on account of all those passives also giving her speed.

>>32952891
no video to proof it.

>>32952292
Reine take Halu on stage 2 btw

What are the best collab items for Suisei? Should I go for BL collab or miComet for her axe collab?

Am I stupid? Is there no setting for dual stick controls on controller?

>>32953193
The setting is to use both sticks

Any run where you dont get exp glasses is so fucking bad. Tbh the dev should remove the glasses and buff exp gain because they seriously feel mandatory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6P_LfdS7sM

>>32953146
>no video to proof it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STiy666_g0Y

>>32953228
damn okakoro at the same time...
sheep also later

>>32953246
>666_g0Y

>>32952910
consoles need capture cards

what's better for healing? bandage or horn?

>>32953246
>gets super body pillow
>drops it
>immediately picks up regular body pillow
Absolute powermove

>>32953684
horn is still better i'd say, bandage takes time to trigger and you don't have that at endgame

>>32953521
gay devil

>>32952928
>>32952855
>>32952825
Thanks for the feedback.
Managed to beat the stage on the second attempt.

>>32952763
>1 collab
>Limiter
>Revivies
>L53 at 28m
The bigger question is how the fuck did you make it to 20 minutes on stage 3 with that garbage build.
You have 2 passives doing literal nothing. Take some damage, healing, crit, haste, dodge, even movespeed. A normal build should have 2 or 3 collabs and at least +50% damage in passives compared to you. Being level 53 with super glasses is not typical and a symptom of running too much and killing too little. Level 60 by 15 minutes on stage 3 seems normal, L53 at 20 is a typical stage 1 run with no glasses.

>>32954174
Yeah, I never really plan out my build, I just take what I get.
And I definitely didn't kill enough.

>>32942657
Aaand hard 1 endless
As fatto catto, food comes to you.

>>32951577
Roboco hyper levels gets ALL the item ahead of the curve and nukes the field while stunning things with batteries. It sounds simple "just level up faster" but the truth is it snowballs insanely

>>32954035
does haste affect the "every 3 seconds" part? if so then it might be better on girls like Korone or Kronii

Just did halu5 stage 1 hard as Kronii. Didn't feel as satisfying as I imagined though since you end up just running away from everything.