/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32836616
coping mechanism

homoshill thread

>>32836616
mumei is just autistic everywhere

>>32837350
That stream was definitely a different kind of autism from her other JP interactions, though. I wouldn’t suggest other girls take that route, all the same.

>>32837146
Not really. Say Gura collabs with a Tempus member. How does she handle it? That's the important part, not the collab itself. Management may have forced it and we may NEVER know. It's not fair to her if she handles it well: Does she make the viewers the third guy in the room? Or does she make the collab partner the third guy, as she should?

Male collabs are still useless, but it is true that kronii completely shat the bed

Kronii faked laugh for almost a year to her unoriginal unfunny krocucks and released the most orgasmic belly laugh when collabing with a hot sexy tempiss. Make of it what you will.

>>32836616
Not even once

>>32836616
Gura treats her fans like shit, never streams, constantly ghosts them, yet is regarded as the queen of /vt/ and the flagship girl for unicorns. It was always about cuck shit, unicorns have cuck brains and are a fragile bunch that require death.

>>32838413
kek no one likes shartmelia fartson

nah dude. I don't care if the chuuba acts professional, I have zero interest in watching males or watching her interact with males. She can do that in her personal life if she wants to, I don't give a fuck but I hate men who are not me and that's final.

>>32838413
Yes, I like this development.

>>32838480
I'm not saying you should want male collabs. I wish they'd never happen but they do. I'm just suggesting to take them as opportunities for your oshi to prove herself.

>>32838413
>Ame lost To graduated Sana

>>32838413
Tempus subs momentum is already shit? Not suprise then those collabs are pushed so hard.

This makes sense, in NijiEN, Rosemi bailed during a date stream to collab with Luxiem. It wasn't the male collabs that were the problem it was the timing and it displayed how fickle she was towards her fanbase

>>32837473
People insult Mumei by saying she's a watered down fake Haachama, but that was Mumei's most Haachama stream, and it was 100% real.

>>32838707
In Ame's case she went out of her way to arrange a collab with the homos, there's nothing left to prove, she clearly wants to do it.
Now some of the other participants, maybe. I can see Reine being too nice/passive to change her mind after finding out tempiss is also in that collab. Someone like her might yet be saved.

>trying to bait as a hooman

Collabs between genders are extremely boring unless Roberu is involved, I think the girls are better on their own and so are the men.

>>32838952
>bailed during a date stream to collab with Luxiem
If this is true, Jesas

>>32839411
And even if Roberu is involved he's better on his own

>>32838952
>Rosemi bailed during a date stream to collab with Luxiem
good lord, really?

>>32838413
>Less VOD views than Kiara
Roru, rumao even

>>32836616
>getting cucked isn't inherently bad it's how you're cucked

No. Don't give beggers an inch.

>>32838480
This.

>>32838480
You really should hate yourself as well.

>>32839584
Male collabs are not sex. If your oshi treats the male collab partner as the third guy and maintains her connection to her viewers, it's the male collab partner who is "cucked". And it would be glorious.

>>32839674
I'm not advocating male collabs. In fact, I'm encouraging you to see if your oshi cucks their male collab partners. I wish male collabs would never happen but they just do.

>>32839814
If you don't hate yourself you are a normalfag and shouldn't be here.

>>32839552
What the fuck is wrong with Ina? She is the worst performing EN yet ccv is always high. Another reason why to laugh at ccv fags.

>>32838413
it's funny how 100k and sub 10k views is all Tempus can do, why the hell do they get so many upvotes on reddit and twitter then? That's the shit that really confuses me

>>32836616
Kys homobeggar

>>32840059
4 posts above yours.

>>32838952
This never happened.
Got the date for when it happened? I'm in the mood to search the archives for rosecuck cope.
>>32840133
>I'm begging for homo collabs so you can test your oshi, totally different
Weak falseflag beggar.

>>32836616
Nah fuck off homobeggar

>>32840518
Since you're too retarded, I'll say it directly for your record. I already said this, but I'll say it in a direct reply to (You). I wish male collabs never happen, but they do.
>>32840631
Another retard who can't read

>>32838413
Oof, I thought it was only /vt/ getting sick of Ame's shit!?!?

>>32839863
>but they just do
no, they don't "just" happen
they happen as the result of a choice

>>32836616
I wish I could hang you and watch as you piss and shit yourself.

>>32840677
At least play a flute while you're begging. Nobody likes a talentless beggar.

>>32838480
This is where I’m at. Maybe if it had been handled differently but I have a zero tolerance policy for sharts now; one collab and I filter your channel.

>>32840800
Think. Rub those brain cells together. It could be management. Or, and I doubt you had the wits to consider this, your oshi wants to prove herself. If she's the one who initiated the collab invite, and she disowns the fans, great, now you know.
>>32840869
Hey, you're the Reddit reject who can't read

>>32840846
That's a horrible take anon, why do you want to see and smell some faggot's piss and shit?

>>32836616
fuck off homobeggar

>>32840977
Think. She could say “no” or “management requires this”.

>>32840677
People are probably calling you a beggar because you are suggesting that people find the silver lining in homo collabs instead of denying them out right.

>>32839071
None of the ID care about that stuff, cross-gendered collabs are completely normal for all the girls.

>>32841050
And you'd know the truth during the stream based on her attitude. Get what I'm saying?
>>32841077
I'm saying IF the male collabs happen (I made it clear by now I wish they'd never happen) then you should at least judge the attitude of your oshi instead of condemning her as a whore. We may never know the reason the collab happened and what matters is how the collab is handled. Does she flirt with the guys and put you in an awkward third guy situation or does she never break that connection? That's all I'm saying.

>>32836616
>merely collabing with a male taints a female vtuber
>Do they make the viewers or the collab partner the third guy in the room?
There isn't supposed to be any third guy in the room. It's not about not tainting the VTuber, it's about not tainting the lore. The world of CGDCT is an all-female world. Males cannot be anything more than background characters. When you go to the opera, you will hear the same genre for the whole evening. If they started playing Metallica in the middle of Puccini's Tosca, it would ruin your experience, regardless of whether you like Metallica or not.

>>32841414
Beggar, your falseflag is so obvious. There isn't a grayarea. Either she's a whore that collabs with males or isn't. Apply this for your next bait, yeah?

>>32838731
Not necessarily. If you’re above 1M subs, it doesn’t show growth in increments below 10k.

>>32840518
From what I heard it involved Luca. Still searching though. It might just be the 200k stream. The easier to confirm thing is when Rosemi bailed on Petra's birthday.

>>32841604
>>32841640
Then your stance on what CGDCT should be is needlessly cruel. For all you know, the collab could be forced and she tries her best to prove herself. You're playing right into Reddit falseflaggers' hands.
It's easy to tell what the truth is anyway during and after the stream. Arrogant women can't help themselves.

>>32839972
Ina's erratic schedule since January has made her streams events so Takos show up when she does.

>>32836616
You people are space aliens. I want my streamers focused on the game they're playing and, if they have collab partners, the people they're talking to. What does "severing her attention to her viewers" even mean, do you want her to talk to chat during a collab? That's just straight up rude to her collab partners.

>>32842491
>he puts the collab partner before himself
You'd never get it.

>>32836616
Do you guys really consciously believe that CGDCT being a thing immediately invalidates the "third wheel" argument? You do know that they're also paying attention to their collab partner in every collab they're in, right?

>>32838235
t. hasn't actually seen what happened when she laughed

>>32842073
CGDCT is a well-established genre. Take a look at Manga Time Kirara. It's a magazine that published dozens of manga titles will all-female characters. They are source materials for many CGDCT anime shows. They are successful because they maintain the kayfabe.

Mumei was almost certainly forced into it by Bae, she didn't really want to do it but she didn't have the courage/social skills to turn Bae down like IRyS did
I don't hold it against her

>>32842817
>You do know that they're also paying attention to their collab partner in every collab they're in, right?
It's the attitude, if you haven't figured out already. Again, Mumei vs Kronii. Learn the difference.

>>32842904
That's cool, but vtubers are real people and male collabs do happen and it may not always be your oshi's choice. To shun her as a whore when she tries her best is still not fair.

>>32842909
She talked a bunch that week about how Bae was going to help her reach out to ID and JP girls. I’d say it was less forced and more transactional. Allegedly Bae talked about Mumei and that collab at some point, and it seems she wouldn’t pull Mumei in for another one.

>>32843050
When did Mumei collab with a male? I didn't know about that stream, pretty sure it would've made the rounds here, but I haven't seen the board get.. brown.

Either way, I'm pretty sure that the amount of interaction a chuuba has with her audience when collabing with someone else has never really been a problem or anything anyone complains about... until it involves males, funny how that works.

>>32836616
>it's clear that it's more about the attitude towards the fans
hmm okay i'll keep reading to give you a chance
>Mumei collabed with a male, but did not sever her
why are you using mumei to shit on kronii

>>32836616
>...
>...
> negotiation
(you) are here

>>32843050
I do not watch whores.

>>32843562
>never really been a problem or anything anyone complains about
The desire to not feel like a third wheel goes back beyond vtubing. Are you female?

>>32843968
How each handled it. Read.

>>32844029
>>32844126
I just think it's not fair if the collabs are forced and your oshi tries her best. I think it's reasonable to not shun her as a whore if that's the case.

>>32843050
Manga is also written by real people. There is neither a whore nor an oshi mentioned in the referenced post.

>>32844156
I will never watch whores.

>>32844159
Yes dude, but vtubers have managers and bad peers.

>>32844298
Ok good. Just make sure you're not shitting on a victim.

this whole thread stinks of reddit.

>>32836616
>Instead of abhorring male collabs, I suggest we view them as opportunities for our oshis to prove themselves
Nice try, Homobegger. But no.

>>32844749
It's a thread on how to deal with male collabs IF they happen. To be reasonable and fair to one's oshi.

>>32844870
I guess I should have worded it differently for you drooling retards. I wish they'd never happen, but male collabs just do and you should take them as opportunities to see where you stand.

>>32845129
>male collabs IF they happen
Unacceptable. Male collabs are not an option.

>>32845238
It may not be an option for your oshi to refuse, sometimes.

>>32845357
You're a cuck and this is a cuck thread. You're trying to push a false premise that male collabs are inevitable which is absolutely fucking laughable. Go crawl back to your cuckshed.

>>32836616
This. Males are unavoidable. The real difference is how she behaves around them.

>>32845617
>Males are unavoidable.
>Kiara, Gura, Fauna, Mumei, Ina, and IRyS avoid males
Take your cuck fanfiction somewhere else. I'm sure reddit would appreciate it.

>>32845617
Don't you feel embarrassed for replying to your own post?

>>32845565
>>32845877
Look, I hope your oshi never collabs with a male. But you don't know 100% that she won't. If she HAS TO or graduate, I'm just saying don't outright shun her as a whore if you can tell she doesn't wish to third wheel you.

>>32846536
>I hope your oshi never collabs with a male
She won't
>But you don't know 100% that she won't
I do
>If she HAS TO or graduate
Hololive doesn't work that way

>>32838413
when the most annoying of the branch is 2nd in sub count for the month you know shit is bad

>>32840797
the whole branch is going nowhere even 40k for Gura weak considering her name

>>32842073
its as easy as saying "management wants me to do this" theyve thrown management under the bus before. then not a single person would care, but if at all, it would be directed at those in charge.

>>32846769
>Trusting women

>>32844298
based

>>32836616
Mumei collabed with males who she can hardly speak to and live on the other side of the world. If she collabed with tempus who she can actually speak to there would absolutely be backlash.

>>32862564
this. I don't know how people equate Mumei's male collab with some of the other holos. It almost seems like a calculated move to say "Look! I'm not a GFE unicorn baiter! I collabed with a male. Now excuse me while I go back to never acknowledging the existence of male vtubers on stream ever again"

>>32862719
Or a calculated move to shut down homobeggars. She has the fewest people in her chat talking about Tempus, possibly because she’s openly displayed a complete disinterest in engaging with opposite sex vtubers, even on stream. Can’t say she’s avoiding it because of toxic incels.

>>32836616
> Male collabs are CGDCT tests
Who are grading them?

>>32867905
Anyone who cares to? Fans that care about not being third wheeled? Isn't this obvious?