/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32735297
Ame is a whore and we always told you.
Her CCVs also reflect that. You can ignore numberfagging all you want but there's a reason why she's one of the least watched ENs.

It doesn't matter either way because unicorns don't count as people since they'll never reproduce. Hurting them has no moral weight.

>>32735535
Uh, are you under some delusion the EN girls are going to reproduce? You're fucking retarded. Maybe someone like Fauna but most of them, especially Ame, will never be mothers and die as much a waste of life as the males they mocked.

>>32735684
Whatever you gotta tell yourself to make it through the day, pal.

No, she isn't. But as someone who only watches JP and have watched EN from the sideline, the sudden hostility towards idol culture seems very forced and sudden. I don't really understand it. Very, very unprofessional. I'd expect it from indies.

>>32735809
The truth is that the girls pushing it now always wanted it and faked their interest into idol culture.

>>32735297
Anon it's people pretending to be anime characters playing Worms together. It's not like she's being fucked raw by them while laughing at your superchats. Nobody is denying you your gf fantasy.

What is the actual problem?

>>32735535
>>32735684
Most unicorns are gachikois. Gachikois have a lot of money. They have a lot of money because they work for it; OR got it from someone who worked for it. Ergo, they are worth more than (you) ever be in this world

>>32735929
You say that but why gabe only donate $5 to kronii in his fucking life?

>>32736116
I said most gachikois are unicorns, not vice versa you fucking faggot loser

>>32736172
All cuck posters are illiterate. They must all be from a third world country.
Either that or are just shitting threads and willingly know they're wrong.

>>32735929
Most gachikois are on various welfare programs and failed at the one thing that matters in life. Imagine not being able to find a wife with all the advantages of modern communication.

Absolutely embarrassing.

>>32735535
fuck off moralfag

>>32736116
Oh, please. What's your point against my post?
He's just one out of many unicorns, anon.

>>32736333
>one thing that matters in life
Got you people are so deluded with your beliefs on sex and reproduction. It's sad, really. You talk like a legitimate loser.

>>32736253
They are. Most of them are SEAfags.

>>32735809
The managements of HoloEN is in shambles. It merely took only one chuuba (*cough* mori *cough*) to steer the entire ship into a thunderstorm

>>32735297
>>32735390

Why do you guys choose chuubas who clearly have red flags and then get upset when they violate your trust?

>>32735297
The logical conclusion to a chuuba who commits is Koopa, yet she's shunned for doing what the fans want.

>>32735929
Most of them are neet losers who can barely pay for the membership. Whales are a minority.

Whales are extremely pathetic: They are so physically ugly or have such shitty personalities that they can't get a girlfriend despite having well paying jobs.

>>32736172
Sorry anon, Unicorns are the small minority, Those unicorn that bitch during Kronii's doesn't even donate much at all.

>>32737419
>this one person represents ALL OF THEM!
Admit it. Unicorns always have voted with their wallets. They have more voice than you faglords will ever have.

>>32737303
That's me, but I am not physically ugly. I lean unicorn, but not so extremist as they are with male collabs, etc.

>>32737419
>Those unicorn that bitch during Kronii's doesn't even donate much at all.

This a Leddit troon?

>>32735297
I subbed for her roommates ow scrim team once, and considering the levels of degeneracy in there I'm just surprised it took this long

Bros, >>32736556
do not forget that these retards are LITERALLY seanigs, look at these ESL posts
>>32736116
>>32737419

>>32735917
the cuck.

>>32735297
ame realizes she can't fuck her audiences so she goes with tempus instead

>>32735297
>It's not fairrrrrrr
Whiny motherfuckers

>>32736253
another cuck.

>>32736556
NTR enthusiast.

>>32737519
Most spreadsheet Kronies support the male collabs or at least didn't throw a hissy fit about them. The most notorious unicorn who bitched and continues to bitch about it is Gabe who barely donates and probably is from SEA . I don't know the situation in other fandoms.

Most people who call themselves gachikoi barely spend money on their oshi so she barely knows you exist. The guys who send constant high value superchats are the ones they take notice of and unless one of them drops out they’re not going to care or modify that behaviour.

>>32737663
No, they're not NTR enthusiast. They have crab mentality.

>>32737743
weird opinion

>>32737743
The truth is that Holomems can do without them: They get enough money from sponsorships, ad revenue, merchandise and memberships.
If you want to control a vtuber through superchats you should be donating to small Indies.

>>32737734
Revealed Preferences are a thing anon. Kronies, you don't have to be ok with being cucked.

>>32735297
good old time..
https://youtu.be/cRMaqApzVXg?t=11952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOgynhXPKKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww8HYMWdA3E
https://youtu.be/vLSfo0tdIgU?t=3609
https://youtu.be/zrbQhFqtFAM?t=2623

Is gosling just another for unicorn now?

>>32737862
NIJ-en girls make a lot less money anon.

>>32737862
>They get enough money from sponsorships, ad revenue, merchandise and memberships
So what you're saying is that the way to control a large vtuber is through unmembering, refusing to buy their merch, and not watching streams so as to tank the value of both their ad revenue and sponsorships. Good to know.

>>32737887
>>32737838
>>32737663

They aren't being cucked. Gaming with men is not sex. You are mentally ill.

>>32737971
One must be firm with a Chuuba.

>>32737916
Yes. They tried to come up with autistic reasons why they aren’t but they’re fundamentally the same as unicorns.

>>32738007
I don't share your cuck fetish anon.

>>32738007
>waving to men is not sex
>talking to men is not sex
>gaming with men is not sex
(You) are here
>going shopping with men is not sex
>going out to eat with men is not sex
>inviting men over to watch a movie is not sex
>sex with men is not sex

>>32738007

Go back where you camr form homobeggar

No, she isn't.
She catered to people who don't want such collabs for two years now. Of course they wouldn't be happy about things suddenly changing.

So far she stuck to supporting them on Twitter or with the occasional "watch their outfit reveal" mention. But no collabs.
In fact, she opted against an Astel collab in Apex over a year ago and said "I thought some of you wouldn't like it".

>>32737971
That would be better, specially if it's coordinated. But the larger the vtuber the more difficult is to control and the more she makes out of greys (normies) just watching.

Large YouTubers and streamers made fortunes exclusively out of greys. Top 3d male streamers don't need to pretend to be the audience BF, they don't have gachikois and unicorns at all and yet they make tons of money.

>>32737862
I’m going to tell you this outright from experience. If you are spending a lot of money on a JP Holo and you tell her in private something bothered you she will listen. Rushia was the tip do the iceberg when it comes to Holos being in contact with their biggest donators, they can live without the idiots screaming about cucks or whatever but they will be financially impacted by guys who give them thousands a month walking away.

>>32738121
Just one of those things is sex. Outside of Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia you can't forbid your wife from having male friends.

>>32738234
>Top 3d male streamers don't need to pretend to be the audience BF
Now tell me how many of the top women are actually being honest about their relationship status.

>>32735297
You idiots knew exactly where you were getting yourself into, and I lost count of how many times you got cucked since her debut day.

>>32738315
>Just one of those things is sex
Wrong
>Outside of Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia you can't forbid your wife from having male friends
Yet

>>32735297
>Complaining about ame playing video games
The absolute state of unicorn cucks.

You will never be in a relationship with your oshi, therefore your oshi cannot cuck you. You need therapy if you believe otherwise.

>>32738007
Read, you subhuman nigger. I said that they have crab mentality. They and you don't care about NTR or any of this shit, you just don't want other people to feel happy.

>>32738633
You really need to get rid of that cuck mentality

>>32738527
the cuck.

>>32738320
I don't know, what I know is that there are thousands of normies that will continue to watch despite males, and that's enough to make a good living.

Who knows how loyal these normies are though. Maybe they'll get bored and they'll stop watching, but we won't know in the upcoming months, it will take years for the talents to really see the consequences.

>>32738315
the cuck

>>32738315
cuck mindset.

>>32735297
>ASMR streams from a hotel

Good. I hope she does it again but this time with one of the boys where they pretend to make out in front of the mic so you faggots can seethe harder

>>32738633
I don't care about unicorns being happy, no. I do want the girls to be happy. You are the ones that rage when you see your Oshi laughing honestly with males.

>>32737500
>Admit it. Unicorns always have voted with their wallets. They have more voice than you faglords will ever have.

Less than 1% of there members are unicorns, along with less than 1% of there Supers come from unicorns. You guys are way smaller than you think when it comes to EN.

>>32735297
You saw her called you as walking banks and you supported her anyway. Love is blind, but part of it is your fault

>>32737902
I want to cry so much bros. When did it went wrong?

>>32735297
>pander to goslings with date streams early from debut
>with joke date streams and an ASMR that was just her whispering
lol
lmao even

>>32738527
>You will never be in a relationship with your oshi
Imagine believing this

>>32739042
anon ame multiple times told people to not spend money on her and turned off superchats. you're really trying to blow banter out of proportion

>>32735297
>asmr from a hotel
So she got herself worked up for her boyfriend and this is a positive to teacucks? No wonder theres still holdouts.

>>32738878
>Pretend

>>32739010
If you're already pulling statistics out of your ass, why not pull out that dildo so you'll sound less full of shit.
The normie twitter audience won't be the ones still buying merch after she drives away all the goslings.

>>32739010
This is true, unfortunately. Majority of EN fans are brainwashed by feminists that prepared them to suck their wives boyfriends penises.

>>32737902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-OXNwh_Wm0
The peak. Her most fun stream ever

>>32739542
Only time will tell unfortunatly. Best part is, even if there's a clear bleed on top end SC and merch sales, people will claim it was something else.

>>32739992
But bro, it was just a joke! She was just kidding when she named the stream that!

>>32740170
>it was just a joke
>dumped teamates to watch gura
yes

>>32740065
>finally covid is truly over

>people think ame is bad


Hahahhahahah

>>32739840

>>32739840

>>32739840

>>32735297
Ame has always been a salty venomous bitch who lashed out her chat for the smallest thing
Whoever stuck around this long knew exactly where they were heading

ame isn't being fair because she had s*x in an abusive relationship and became a hermit, now she won't let me exercise and nourish her lanky body and show her what love is supposed to be like, THAT'S NOT FAIR

>>32739691
I like how a guy that has never spoken to a women in his life is calling people cucks, because they just watch a streamer for entertainment, not some fantasy where Ame is your fucking girlfriend. She doesn't know you and doesn't care about you, get some real friends, stop living in your fantasy land

>>32735929
>Gachikois have a lot of money

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT, THE COPE

let me know if these gachis are sending red supas everyday, then I'll kneel

>>32742645
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>32742466
You have something metally wrong with you if you donate hundreds of dollars a month and consume every last bit of content on a daily basis of a woman streamer on the internet (totaling thousands of hours of video). The easiest and most likely option is that as a male, you are obsessed with a female because you want to fuck her or have fallen in love with her. Otherwise you wouldn't dedicate that amount of time to a woman.

>>32735535
Reminder that this is the type of person that makes posts like this.
https://streamable.com/0ba0z

What part of AMEWAY did any of you sad fucks not understand?

>>32743415
And here comes the yesman teacuck

>>32737734
it was pretty split actually. I'm not sure why you're lying.

>>32743505
Cope and seethe

>>32738007
No one wants to watch the girl they like have more fun with a guy that isn't them unless they are literally a cuckold. Kill yourself.

>>32743748
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>32735297
Your girlfriend doesn't have any male friends? It would be normal to you if you treated you and your girlfriend as the only people on Earth and never interacted with society? Protip: you'd get your ass dumped by your oshi in a second if you tried to be that controlling

>>32738527
you need to go back to twitter or kill yourself.

>>32743748
(You) lose any right to say you're different from twitch ethot simps in any capacity. Streamers aren't your friends and much less your girlfriend/boyfriend. Take your meds. Overdose if you must but for god's sake take them

>>32738899
I hope you're cheated on by any relationship partner you manage to have in the future.

>>32735297
You all abandoned her over the "improve yourself" and are now mad that she's not listening to you anymore? She's moved on. It's a new Ame. You should move on too. You no longer have any power here.

>>32744075
You're not in a relationship with Ame. You deluded fuck.

>>32743937
Ignoring the problem won't make it go away anon. Your oshi doesn't even know you exist outside of superchats. It's impossible to be in a real relationship with them

>>32735297
I knew she had changed on her 2nd birthday by not releasing a voice pack. She hates you all and thinks you're cringe - not just unicorns but yesmates too. I dont think there is any other flavor of teamate.

>>32743837
the person behind the drawing you insufferable faggot tourist.
Why the fuck do you go places you're not wanted?

>>32744192
this medium isn't meant for you, you enterist bitch

>>32744311
>she hates yesmates
>no proof
Another failed deflection by unicorns pretending to be cucks. Cope harder

>>32744453
I like seeing unicorn and CGDCT faggots seethe over normal human interaction

>>32744518
You sre NOT in a relationship with any vtuber

>>32744520
>S-She doesn't hate me
>The simp who gives her hundreds/thousands of dollars
>The simp who won't ever voice complaints when asked.
>But I'm totally not in love with her, I swear!

based

>>32744783
clean my cock, roastie whore. no one will ever love you, you petulant slug.

I dunno if I'm taking the bait, but you're a fucking loser.

>>32735535
When you try to sound hard on the internet but sound like mouse.

Oh no, so anyway.

>>32745034
If you ever have a daughter, I hope she's raped and murdered in front of you.

>>32736333
>advantages of modern communication
Roru, rumao even, either female or faggot hands typed this post

>>32744845
>She doesn't hate me
Can't hate someone you don't even know exists. I'm not so self centered as to demand attention from anyone. That's bitch behavior
>Thousands of dollars
All the superchats I've given to any streamer over the past 6 or so years don't even add up to $50. If we count memberships, it's about $40 a month so about $480 a year and one of them is recent. A bit shy from several thousands don't you think?
>simp who won't voice complaints when asked
Sounds more like the people who value this are just looking to complain. If you have a lot of complaints to voice, you're probably wasting your time watching something/someone you clearly aren't enjoying
I'm not a gosling so that last point is a given. Anything else, loser?

>>32744936
What would your oshi think of your behavior anon?

>>32735297
>Comments about Shien's 3D debut
>Has nekoyama on her background
>Is a buka
Nothing burger
>She finally collabs with Holostars
OMG SHE BETRAYED US

>>32735297
She's been like this since at least January. You aren't getting your entertaining streams back, you either like Ameway or you need to move-on.

Finding an actual girlfriend is extremely easy and it's baffling to me why you people resort to making yourselves miserable like this instead

>>32745679
You're not the targer audience. This is a job that requires the vtuber to earn money to keep doing full time. They may enjoy it more than they would any other work, but it is still a job.

>>32737916
No, it means being clingy.
>I miss Mommy Fauna threads is the best example.

>>32745908
you have no idea what anyone else's circumstances are. you're just an unempathetic bitch that will never be loved by anyone because you're too stupid to understand the difference between a fling and a relationship. You're a worthless slut that will hit the wall sooner than you realize and then you'll either be trapped in a loveless marriage/relationship or you'll become a bitter old bitch that everyone around you will secretly just wish passed away instead of bothering them.

>>32743837
You realize you're just showing how shallow your thinking is by oversimplifying to a point of irrelevancy, right?

>>32745933
This is one pathetic strawman mate. They seem to be doing their job just fine and are still getting paid. The only one that isn't is ayame but she's still here and loved(for whatever reason)

>>32743193
Or they're really entertaining?

>>32746361
Don't care. I'm not the pathetic idiot that fell in love with a streamer

>>32746293
Nah, I'm a dude who knows this shit isn't hard if you'd just put the same effort it took writing this rage post into actually doing something. You learn the difference between flings and relationships by actually putting yourself out there.

>>32735535
Why are you such a nasty person? Were you abused as a child?

>>32746692
Proof?

>>32735684
You say that, but if any of the ENs appeared before you right now begging for the D, you'd give it to them in a heartbeat. Yes, even Mori

>>32746523
KEK

>>32735297
I don't see the issue here at all though. I follow a bunch of Japanese indies and they do stuff like literally write you personalized love letters yet even they collab with males. Avoiding males is (well, was) just a Hololive 2019- thing.

>>32746530
Yeah, you're even more pathetic. Dumb normalfag.

>>32746530
Why are you /here/

>>32746882
You've never had a hobby, kind of sad.

>>32746964
You’ve never had a girlfriend

>>32747121
I did. Relationship lasted for 3 years, before I dumped her.

>>32746963
To talk about vtubers and gush about my oshi. I just also like taking the piss on parasocial fucks that are all over this board pretending to be cucked. If they wanna be a cuck so bad, they deserve to be shamed like one

>>32746523
If some guy donated $500 to Taylor Swift every month, would you consider him someone who finds her really entertaining and wants to support her or someone who has a thing for her?

Now consider the same but Taylor Swift is actually an average talentless thot and just plays video games instead of producing music

>>32746927
You're so cute when you're seething

>>32735297
Yea she is

>>32747561
this cat is what happens when you let your streamer collab with a man even once

>>32747503
>i posted a smug anime girl, i win!
rumao

>>32747593
And if your oshi ends up the same way that means you've been simping for a thot. Quit while you're ahead

>>32747420
Taylor Swift is a billionare

>>32735297
I just entered ame hugbox thread, unironically i cant tell if they are just falseflager or teammates actually share a cuck hive mind

>>32747637
Want more?

>>32747743
Everyone in Hololive is easily richer than you and quite likely millionaires, what's your point?

>>32747772
You obviously don't understand the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire.

>>32747816
A couple of digits?

>>32747816
Well alright, let's assume Taylor Swift is actually some B-tier entertainer who only makes about $2 million a year before taxes. Now assume some guy is donating her $500 a month. Is it better now?

>>32747420
A thing? Do you not even know what gachikois are in otaku idol culture? Very few of them actually want to sleep with the girl. It's mostly a pissing contest to see who's the biggest superfan.

>>32747878
The exponential growth is a whole world of difference. There's more difference between a billionaire and a millionaire than a multimillionaire and you.

>>32747761
of course you'd stock up on these in place of having a brain
but sure post them as much as you want, what else is there to do right?

>>32740065
Good luck getting data on merch sales and SCs have been falling for every Holo, unicorn pandering or not.

>>32748021

>>32748021
Lookie lookie, another vtuber that isn't your girlfriend

>>32748405
>>32748361
>click on NPC 3 times
>after that it keeps repeating the same thing
We're really living in a simulation, aren't we?

>>32748548
One of us will get bored enough, don't worry

>>32735929
No they fucking don't. Actually rich gachis have to be at least somewhat socially capable. You don't make it very far into a career when your peak social interaction is jerking off to a talking screen.
Thank you for confirming that by talking about gachikois in third person you SEApoor.

>>32735297
>Anon is easily scammable and cries about it
Would you be interested in this new crypto I found? I can trade it for you, just send me the money, to the moonerino

>>32748548
Can I join in?

>>32737256
>doing what the fans want.
social experiments¿?

>>32750397
Is there a VTuber prank channel yet?

>>32735535
You're ugly on the inside and outside.

>>32737419
>ESL
>Cuck
ngmi

>>32748548

>>32750661
Ropey rope

>>32749682
Anon, a lot of top paying jobs (especially in tech) have minimal off-screen interactions.

>>32749682
That sounds like projection to me. Imagine being a western nigger posting this kind of shit in the middle of the day. How pathetic must your life actually be?

>>32750792
>>32750907
>Haven't worked in HR
Plebs, you are fired

>>32735297
HOLY BASED

>>32746817
Fucking is not the same as reproducing you idiot.

>>32737047
Yeah but thats just the first step, after that collab they will chat more often. Probably start chatting daily which in turn will start them visiting each other and dating. You motherfuckers don't think ahead, we goose chads do.

>>32735297
let me get this straight

if you had a real girlfriend you would be upset that she has male coworkers and pester her until she finds another job with female-only coworkers... ?

She looks like Ramona Flowers. That should’ve been your first red flag.

>>32745908
I could get a date right now but I don't.
Why?
Bitches be crazy, chuubas are fun and distant.
You don't know how diverse and multipolar the gfe scene is.

>>32735297
j-j-jebaited?
Seriously just stop watching her and sending money, she'll either change or just graduate and go back to streaming normally.

>>32745908
finding a gf that isn't a schizo bi polar lefty is like finding a needle in a haystack, especially where I live. I tried dating one and it was a mistake. I wish it were easier man.

>>32745908
I don't want a 3dpd girlfriend. I dumped my girlfriend of 3 years, because I was no longer interested in putting in the time and energy to maintain the relationship.

I live alone, like i've always preferred and gravitate towards parasocial online relationships, because they require minimal time, emotional labour and financial commitment compared to offline relationships.

>>32735917
> it's people pretending to be anime characters
They never did. There is no character.

>>32755759
This is what happens when leftists take over. We have people like this that not only proudly state their mental-illness like it's normal and something to be proud of, but they also get upset when people rightfully shit on and shun them for it.

>>32735535
>they hated him because he told them the truth

>>32747761
Chris she has sex appeal in that screenshot. That hag ages like fine wine

>>32748405
She baited people for two years and happily took their money. Withdrawing support and moving on is OP's best option.

>>32735297
Remember the good ol days teamates?

>>32735297
Anyone getting pissed about the upcoming collab is beyond retarded.
She excplicitly stated that she won't do 1-on-1 with Tempus but would still join group collabs, any gosling had almost a month to "mentally prepare" for something like that.
This isn't her playing a game with a homo, it's a fucking cross-company tournament with EN and ID.
Grow up.

>>32735809
They were probably holding it in and waiting for the chance to have an outburst from long ago, maybe even from day 1. Tempus boys aren't even really at fault but they're being used to fuck shit up and they probably don't even realize it, or they do but they don't realize this is a lose lose for them.

>>32735535
Truth

>>32744936
Anon you might want to get that degradation kink looked at anon. It’s not good to hate yourself that much.

>>32745908
Okay, what about finding a girlfriend who isn't a busted whore covered in tattoos and piercings?

>>32746904
That might be the case with some indies, but many JP corpos outright ban male collabs, as does Project Kawaii in the west. Cover doesn't do that.

>>32735297
Yeah because a woman interacting with a man in any way is clearly romantic.
I broke up with my girlfriend when she had a male cashier at the store once.

>>32745933
The target audience depends on the girl. But the general one is whoever will buy shit from sponsors and by merch from live/offical retailers and not resellers
This immediately means unicorns aren’t because they will buy from resellers and buy too much of certain items from proper sources that normal fans may turn to resellers.

>>32746692
Post dick, faggot

>>32762381
Never give homobeggars an inch. If you don't put your foot down early you'll never stop them.

>>32762381
Join, not organize

>>32738121
>Existing on the same planet as men
>Breathing the same air as men
>Having male relatives.
>Having seen a man at any point in their lives.

>>32735297
End your membership, stop super chatting and watch someone else, that's the only message she's going to understand.

>>32763194
How many times do we need to tear down this strawman? No one seriously thinks it's about them dating, it's about an interruption to the "cute girls doing cute things" dynamic. Adding a man in just punches a hole in the voyeuristic appeal of all-girl collabs and prevents any yuri teetee.

>>32735809
Because most of them are fake money/popularity hungry whores
Only exception is Gura but I don't think she had money problems or wanted to be popular in the first place. Hope she learns Jap and transfers braches soon.

>>32763571
>Hope she learns Jap
Lol

>>32738315
This isn't about friends or even boyfriends. It's about stream collabs. I don't care if she takes a thousand dicks offlstream as long as she doesn't collab with or talk about men on stream.

>>32763407
Lucky star constantly had her father and the other characters male siblings and it’s still one of the better cgdct. Show by rock had the president, the other bands, and the villian being male and it was largely plasmagica doing cute things and singing. Males being in The cast doesn’t stop it from being cgdct. Your own psychosis does.

>>32763279
Is that the issue? That she asked "Who wants to play worms?" and then just put together an event with her english speaking colleagues?
Is this really the hill you wanna die on?

>>32763731
nta but she is making some progress so let us dream

>>32735535
FPBP

>>32764218
She hasn't shown a single word of progress in two years, other than making a "this time for sure I'll start" post every now and then.

>>32735297
You: ugly, fat, poor
Tempus member: attractive, successful, funny
If you were Ame who would you choose?

>>32735297
No, but she’s chasing the money via the easiest route, as she always has.
Originally it was by cultivating a loyal fan base, now it’s by discarding them ASAP and being a living collab clout chasing meme

>>32735535
I can smell your unwashed cunt from all the way over here.

>>32735297
Can anyone share the moment on her stream where she says fucking bitch under her breath?

>pander to incels
>cuck them
Very nice Ame.

>>32735535
fpbp.
so much seething over a simple observation. based.

>>32738007
There is literally nothing to gain from the opposite sex, except sex. Males and females on the internet both play games, both do comedy, do creative shit. Its all the same on some level.
As such, the only reason to play with the opposite sex if your a hetero person, is to gain an additional level of sexuality from it. Which you cant gain from the gender you arent interested in romantically.

>>32735535
You don't spend money on vtubers, the unicorns do.
They are objectively more valuable for a content maker than you ever will be.
And if you are a man, then you are going to die childless and alone too lol.

this is all one big joke right? are people gonna jump out and say "gotcha"? are there really people like this who have no grip on reality? who have no concept of coworkers?

>>32735297
What kind of mental infant do you have to be to actually be that emotionally attached to a vtuber because she did like 5 gfe streams.

>>32768288
Women don't produce value at work.

Aren’t Goslings just unicorns with a self-insert?

>>32768561
Nigga you don't even have a job

Ame hurts me and I love it.

>>32735297
Didn't she torch her goslings very early on, calling them all harsh and nasty words?

>>32735535
That's the unspoken psychopathic thought process underlying these vtubers' practices, yes. They try to have their cake and eat it too.

>>32735297
>fair
You must be 18 to post here anon. Ame is in the business of vtubing. Her end goal is to make money. Fairness has nothing to do with it. That's wagie mentality bullshit, not the outlook of an adjusted and functional adult. If you don't like what she's doing tell her to fuck off and move on. Don't let this shit live in your head.

>>32735297
Ame doesn't actually care about her fans. shes already said it on stream.

>>32768288
Hololive and Holostars are separate branches.

>>32746293
Based

Ame is a dirty whore

>>32748080
>SCs have been falling for every Holo, unicorn pandering or not.
and the excuses have already started

my most sincere condolences holobros
it's time to move on and get some pussy IRL

>>32763066
they did for a while which sucks because i miss the niji holo collabs a lot.
few vtubers got more chemestry than yashiro and matsuri.
27toJK was peak

matsuri visited yashiro's birthday stream last year while reminiscing about it and that legit got me in the feels

>>32735929
lmao

>>32769339
They (speaking for myself) are more dejected from the pain of loving the unattainable, and "know their place" so to speak. They only live for their oshi, rather than believing their oshi was created just for them. Even though they know they will never get what they truly desire, they get just enough momentary joy from her smile to drown out said reality and hang in there for another cycle.
>>32771928
This

>>32772699
>That's wagie mentality bullshit, not the outlook of an adjusted and functional adult
So 90% of adults are not adjusted or functional? That makes your whole post kinda pointless.

>>32758041
>Being self aware of your mental illness and isolating yourself to not inconvenience people irl is a bad thing and leftist

She being both fair and balanced.

>>32735773
Anon, look at the jp girls, only one of them is a mother and her ex took the kids away.
All these women sign a covenant in blood, live by the simp, die by the simp.
There is no room for anything else once you become a community girlfriend.

>>32735809
If you notice, it's all the girls who have friends in vshojo.
This is intentional corporate sabotage, mori, bae, ame, they will just end up in vshojo after graduating and everyone will act surprised as if this wasn't the plan.

>>32738527
I will not be giving money to ame then

I can't believe she would do this, I've been sick all day. I can't stop throwing up. How could she do this what the fuck is wrong with her. How could she speak to a male. I'm so disgusted. I think I'm gonna throw up again I feel so nauseous. I don't know if I will survive this collab. Ame killed me never forget this. To think she was such a fucking WHORE.

>>32776927
So how much money do you give to her?

>>32777108
I'm a NEET so I have to try and keep it under 500$ a year

>>32745908
There would be no female streamers on twitch or youtube if their audiences got girlfriends, just wouldn't be profitable enough
I watch a decent amount of vtubers with my gf, but we aren't donating $100's to them, it's really a lonely person activity

>>32772699


If her end goal was to make money, then she wouldn't alienate her gosling demographic, because they're the ones who pay for memberships, while the only thing the homobeggars and clout-chasters give you are updoots on social media.
Pretty simple logic desu senpai.

>>32770254
speak for yourself

>>32736116
Don't speak about Gabe like you watch Kronii you retarded ESL

>>32735929
>gachikois have more worth
holy fuck when did this become the norm? we're supposed to look down on these people. the fuck happened?

>>32782888
Did you forget you're posting on 4chan?

>>32762250
I still remember yesterday

>>32773963
Retard

>>32735809
I feel lucky to be a JP fan
EN exist, I watch them but don't really fell to them, cause I know EN always destroy non-normie cultures.

>>32774146
Any adult who expects fair equity from any sort of business or corporation without some sort of enforceable contract is a fucking retard and should be sterilized and segregated from the rest of the population, both for their own safety and the good of the larger populace. 90% my ass.

>>32778113
Hololive is a corporation and Ame pulls a salary. Most of Hololive's money comes from brand tie-ins and marketing fuckery. Superchats are a nice bonus for holomems but the majority of their incomes are from merch sales and, again, salaries. You can bitch and moan and whine all you want to but ultimately you're just a consumer. All Ame has to do is keep raising awareness for the Hololive brand. If that means a couple of faggots on 4chan or Twitter won't send her $20 supers or $1000ARS spachas anymore, so what? The brand is doing fine and so Ame too will continue doing fine.

>>32786989
It should be mentioned too that unicorns, goslings, and gachikois make it harder to read market data properly. One person Buying as many as they can of every item provides less data then 10 people in a age range buying x amount of some of the stuff. Not to mention it drives superfans to resellers. Or the violatiely of the fiances a superfan would actually have ( this is why furries are a godsend because they don't run out of money somehow) meaning they might be able to buy shit once but never again due to bad saving habits. Or that super fans are more emtionally stupid so they might stop being fans if something happens more easily, where as normal fans might take a detox for anything not special.
Superfans tend to be outliers and have to be thrown out to produce the actual merchendise that can sell the majority of fans if they can get it.

>>32738315
>you can't forbid your wife from having male friends
Yes the fuck I can. I've done it before IRL and I'll do it again.

>>32788743
>lies
Why?

>>32735684
>>32746817
>>32752565
They're starting to get old, in a couple of years they might not even be capable of having kids, so unless they have some kids under the curtains they will have a very rough life post wall. Even HoloJP's are worried about this and they are way above Mori in terms of looks.

>I won't collab with males unless i'm invited
>...
>...
>...
>Fuck it i'll do it myself
She's that desperate, huh?

>>32789264
That doesn’t excuse them from their responsibilities to the fans and the brand. They knew what they were signing up for by taking the job. They got fame and fortune and now they have to pay the price.

>>32789314
the only one that can start an unisex collab is calli who doesn't care about unicorns backslash so Ame had to do it herself

>>32786989


>Hololive is a corporation and Ame pulls a salary
Lol, you're delusional if you think any vtuber is just given six figure paychecks for taking up space. You think this is some sort of white collar bureaucratic sinecure? All this shit works on commission. Memberships, merch, donos, whatever, buying shit directly related to the vtuber is how they get money. They might get a stipend, pocket money for essentials at best. And who the fuck do you think is buying merch? Again, not people like you.

All this is making you sound like a wagie who doesn't own any property and doesn't know where all his stuff comes from. 'Salaries' don't grow on trees. 'Corporations' are not magic ATMs that dispense infinity cash and prizes. No capital exists until someone creates it first.

>>32786989


And another thing
>raising awareness for the Hololive brand
Remember Hana Machia? Yeah me neither.
The sewers of the internet are clogged with the remains of fizzled attempts at making careers out of being a 'personality'. Every failed e-girl that thought antagonizing their simps and signaling about 'owning the incels' would be met with the thunderous applause of an adoring public as they ride a wave of popularity to the moon ends up broke and irrelevant. They thought the vocal minority of clapping seals chorusing each other represented something real. They fell for the psyop.

Many such cases. Sad!

>>32792266
What is their end goal? Niji 2.0?

>>32791081
They can just hanging out with dudes as much as they want offline with simp money. But no they have to bring freakin male on stream to pollute their image, reputation and lore.

> He's still at Gosling level
ngmi bro

>>32794613
True. All service require paid customer to generate profits. Most customer just leave when they don't like the service anymore, so feedback from customer is very valuable. SCs complaints are that kind of feedback EN is trying to ignore, which is a bad thing for business.

>>32796892
my naive guess? they just wanna have more options to have fun

if you want me to rrat, stir up some drama to lure more viewers, scare away unicorns or both

>>32773963
Follow Ame's advice and improve yourself by dropping her.

>>32797301
Do you think the well of fun things to do has run that dry that they have to do things that they now trigger a portion of their fanbase. Unless it is really astronomically more fun than what they've already been doing

OP makes a very good point. Ame is one who basically cultivated her whole fanbase on GFE. Goslings come from Ame fans. You have to admit, OP has a very good point.

>>32797301
They thought pissing off their own fan is fun. Got it

>>32800085
I don't think it's THAT dry but myth will be 2 years old in a couple days, new people means new experiences (and new things can be exciting)

I'm pretty sure ame and calli are craving for these collabs because they're more sociable than ina, gura and kiara

gura probably doesn't really wanna deal with backslash and kiara knows that if she joins, she'll lose more than just views

about council, can't say for sure after what happened with kronii, we already know her answer but we haven't reached a final outcome,
bae seems unaffected, mumei would join to be polite and fauna shares gura's viewpoint

>>32801015
I made two separate guesses, there's no correlation in between

>>32735535
>the replies
Holy shit are you guys actually starting to gatekeep normies now? It's a little too late for that but I commend you for trying for once instead of letting them walk all over you.

>>32735297
>panders to gosling
nigger what? Goslings are made from a girl's personality. There isn't something you specifically do to pander to them retarded newfag

>>32800085
They just don't know their audience, they think people upset about it are 5% of their audience and they don't need to respect them but it's actually close to 50%, most will suck it up until it`s unbearable but once they leave their attachment is gone and they won't come back.

>>32801803
Mori has less than half Ina's Rust number today. Make you realize which way of treating fan is better in the long run

>>32735684
lol most of them have bf/husbands. welcome to reality, son

>>32802964
Source: the voices in my head

How's this thread still up?

>>32735297
>Is Ame being fair?
no

Self-insert autists

>>32735535
Ah yes, reproduction, the process by which someone with nothing to contribute to the world can convince himself he's creating something

>>32801700
Imagine being this naive.

>>32743415
the highway

>>32735535
I don't understand this "bullying unicorns" shtick from tourists and people who never watch vtubers. These people gave up on their own love quests years ago because modern society is hostile towards the idea of building a meaningful relationship to the other. Sure, they're losers but these hopeless romantics are probably more human than the average normalfag like (you) who treat women like nothing other than coom dumpsters. Manwhores and women who can't keep up with vtuber kayfabe deserve nothing from these so-called "losers"

>>32735535
You should be able to understand our position with your troons, twitterfag.

>>32739123
Unfortunately, from the beginning anon. There's little ticks in personality, subtle things that sort of foreshadow shit like this. In Mori, her contrarian shit was more overt but Ame had it too, just subtler.

>>32763738
This.
They can fuck all the guys they want off stream, I don't care.
On stream, they must maintain a persona. It's how this industry fucking works.

>>32803945
First post made people seethe too much, so it won't die.

>>32808042
They're culture war niggers.Twitterfags. They hate that japanese culture is insulated from western faggotry and can survive on its own, and that it has a following here. Their dream is to dismantle it brick by brick.

>>32735858
They could have been interested at some point, but what I believe happened is that they saw what NijiEN and Vshojo have and want that "talent freedom", but instead of leaving, they are mangling Hololive into what they want.

>>32806638
Haha guys i was kidding its just bait and you fell for it lol incel

>>32738527
My oshi literally got an outfit for newlyweds for her l2d and claimed that we (The gestalt of her fanbase) were now married. Checkmate

>>32773447
Dumb brat! If I liked real women for their personalities I would go out of my way to talk to them instead of enjoy the company of a fucking anime girl

>>32746747
>be unicorn
>call everyone whores and cucks
>get called out
>WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS???

The unicorn cries as he strikes you

>>32735297
Just like a sadist needs a masochist she needs the goslings herself but won't admit it.

>>32735535
based

>>32735297
I have a word for those followed Mori

>>32794913
Except e-boys and e-girls had an audience that was mainly actual uncles and femcels. Hololive has incel, gachis, and corn as the minority even when grouped together. Torching you has no consequences. As can be seen in merch and sponsorships and music dealings.