/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32732971
Kronii hooked up with a passenger on her flight as well as a tech support guy (Vesper) who plays with her on her personal steam account. She told these stories on twitter. Soooooo…?

>>32732971
You should've been watching the correct chuubas, retard.

>>32732971
Come home to JP

>>32733040
>Kronii hooked up with a passenger on her flight
rrat

>>32732971
what a manchild.

>>32732971
Looks like I was right to never member or superchat any vtuber once in my entire life.

>>32733040
She gave out her number to some random at an airport. That was such a weird fucking story

>>32732971
You asked for this, (You) and your kind.

>>32732971
I guess its time to get that rope

>>32733155
Clip/timestamp please?

>>32733040
Is she a prostitute on the side?

>>32732971
cucks = findom = superchats

>>32732971
I started watching more HoloJP again. I miss the days when HoloEN didn't exist, better days.

>>32733388
You know the JPs collab with males right?

>>32732971
Only the girls that were raised like men are collabing with the guys.

They watched anime with a male protagonist, they played games with a male protagonist, they have been brainwashed since they were little, that's why they normalize friendship with men.

You were betrayed anon. Move on and take your money with you.

>>32732971
I do kind of feel like NijiEN did a much better job of preparing the girls audience for the fact that there would be males they would interact with. They introduced the girls with a male on their debuts and then they basically all collabed with males from other branches and outside the company at least like once a month or so. With HoloEN it feels much more like woah males are here suddenly and your oshi could be next.

>>32733434
Yes?

>>32733299
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/32274774/#32275054
Twitter Space 1:19:13
>regarding airport man

>>32733501
Then why are you posting this in a thread about males and collabs if HoloJP is no different than HoloEN in that regard? It would imply that HoloJP acts differently than HoloEN when it comes to that topic.

>>32733434
stop lying anon. Only a handful do usually in exceptional circumstances. The popular one's have largely accommodated their fans wishes and avoided males. You don't have to be a cuck.

>>32733606
It''s absolutely different liar.

>>32733022
Exactly, they said "I sacrifice"

>>32733434
It isn't about the jp collabing with males. It's about jp knowing how to respect their fans unlike whatever the shit en is doing right now as if they do this just to own their fans and a big fat: if you don't like it then fuck off.

>>32733082
>>32733040
>>32733155
>>32733592
>man
She never said it was a man.

>>32733606
They can collab with males, they just have to keep them at arms length and stay professional. Nobody got into a hissy fit because of that, and that's essentially what's different

>>32733737
>omits gender
I wonder why she did that?

>>32733040
she exchanged numbers with a person whose gender is unknown and then never replied to their message after 5 days. dumb rattpeddler

>>32732971
how many threads are there on this right now? is this a raid?

>>32733687
It's entirely reasonable to expect them to maintain kayfabe. Anyone who is unwilling to do so doesn't deserve your support.

>>32733615
>>32733660
>>32733740
Oh it's different when my japanrinos do it, very good Anon. You will be Japanese one day I believe it.

I really don't understand what the HoloEN branch is going for though. The USP of the Hololive brand really is no males. What's their USP supposed to be when half the branch is collabing with males? We're like NijiEN except with less crude humour and more awkward in collabs?

>>32733785
>believing a now confirmed liar
Kronie I…

>>32733737
>IT WAS NOT A MAN I TRUSTED HER
Have difficulties just sending back a DM, and she decided to use "they". Connect the dots retard

>>32732971
Its frustrating. I want to keep watching my HoloJP oshi, but I don't want to support Hololive for what they're doing with EN. Is our only option to stop watching Vtubers altogether?

>>32733865
Yes
Free yourself from the parasocial prison

>>32733865
yes, grab a rope, loser.

>>32733780
>>32733840
She does it with everyone, She also used they to refer to a family member before and turned out it was her niece, she always use they first because of her SJW background

>>32733304
I'd also like to know this. If so, how much for an hour? Just curious what the going rate is, that's all. Also...is there a membership discount?

>>32733815
it's true, the japs take constructive feedbasck while ame, mori, and kronii don't

>>32733946
You can still call someone they and acknowledge their gender. So why didn’t she reveal the gender? Occam’s Razor says she knew disclosing the gender would be problematic hence the passenger was a male. Let’s not even get into the fact whether she was truthful about even ghosting the guy or not.

>>32733998
Kek

It's tour fault, you shouldn't give her money, make her famous, clip her, falling in love with her, /vt/ is full of ironic weebs, normalfags that will encourage collabs with men, they will win and took away from you your hobby, your safeplace to escape reality, it suck but there's nothing we can do to stop this, the pandemic bring so much trash to our community it's so sad.

>>32734293
you always have the rope

>>32734154
>Occam’s Razor
no, just a rrat, the most honest answer is we have no idea of the gender.

>>32734346
You first fag

>>32732971
buddy literally nothing fucking changed you're and every other gachi thinks like this

unironically improve yourself.

>>32732971
Stop bitching and moaning, just watch your oshi, and if she is collabing with tempus, e-celeb or any other men, just don't watch that stream, jesas, it's not like the moment she speaks to a Man they are automatically fucking.

>>32734442
they're all fucking, and you all know it.

>>32734048
does their constructive feedback consist of unsubbing because of male collabs?

it's literally the same fucking thing

>>32734477
then what difference it makes you if they are fucking anyway?

>>32734442
>watch solo stream
>she sings along with a homo
Yeah no.

>>32734477
they don't acknowledge you exist anon why do you come to this conclusion now?

>>32734350
The honest answer is that she told the story to brag and make Kronies jealous. It was such an unnecessary story to tell.

HoloEN does not have western idols or unicorns, they only have highschool girls as audience.
Source: this board

>>32733687
...so it is about your oshi collabing with males. Got it

all your oshis are fucking at least once a week with better looking males than you, you're just a lonely ugly faggot who will end up under a tree with a rope around your neck. KEK

>>32734442
Don't listen to this cuck enthusiast. If your oshi can't be arsed to honor your wishes and maintain kayfabe, so doesn't deserve your support. You must withdraw it.

>>32734723
You are 5'6 and 115lbs, anon. I bet you can touch your thumb and pinky if you grab your wrist. Please get some vit D.

>>32734646
yes and there's nothing wrong with expecting her not to.

>>32734803
your tree is waiting.

>>32733615
They are Idol, Japanese Idol, one day they will starring in a romance J-Drama or horror movie with males. That's the J-Idol route.

nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger
everyone that cares is a nigger
you are a nigger and a faggot
nigger nigger nigger

>>32734825
Anon, I can just shoot myself. I have access to guns. I bet you're not even american since you keep talking about roping. SEAbro...

>>32732971
Just watch love live instead of hololive if you want idol "purity" illusion anon

>>32734910
I should have known better when I saw those third worlder measurement units.

>>32732971
Wait till I tell you about the "people" who changed western society for the worse just like how they've changed holoEN

>>32734938
I'm not even american but I assimilate to the majority demographic, SEA-kun.

>>32735018
no one asked

>>32735041
Yet you got told and there's nothing you can do about it

>>32732971
Just stick to girls who actually care about Hololive like Gura, Fauna, and Ina. They won't betray you like Ame and Kronii who just don't give a fuck.

>>32735072
your oshi is fucking a male right now anon, better rush to that tree.

>>32734482
>It's the same thing
>Except there's no drama about them collabing with males

Doesn't look like evidence is backing up your claims

>>32734803
You can't do that? Holy burger

>>32735209
pathetic falseflagging LMAO your tree is waiting anon

>>32735093
Ina doesn't care about her fans.

>>32732971
I remember when Ame was building up to an Astel collab and then unicorns sperged out so she renounced it on stream. This is probably a big fuck you to unicorns that's been building up for years, I can respect that and I'm curious to see how it effects revenue and all that. I'd like to think the girls could still make ends meet like Mori while not having to tip toe around autists like you guys.

>>32732971
I still don't understand why people are upset. What actually happened? Why are people mad at Kronii?

Is it just the DbD collab? It can't be right, that was casual fun. They didn't flirt, they didn't make sex jokes or anything really gender related aside form that one grade school level "No girls allowed" homo joke.

Is it her asking people to specifically NOT ship her with any of her coworkers to avoid any suspicion of her being romantically interested in them?

What exactly has Kronii done with the Homos that warrants this twitter level cancelling?

>>32732971
You are beyond pathetic.

>>32733142
Stingychads.... we won....

>>32735728
Kronii collabed with males suddenly while catering to unicorns for a year. She should've done what Bae did if she was going to collab with males and set the expectations early on. Baelz was salivating over males all the time and so there's no disappointment to be had when she did collab with males, thus there is no anger at Baelz.

>>32732971
It was all me.
I want the girls to not only find boyfriends, but have those boyfriends become their husbands and give them kids before they all turn into barren hags.
Sorry, anon.

>>32732971
>Ryan Gosling thread
Into the trash it goes

>>32732971
>We went years and the EN talents never did so much as to mention male friends or the possibility of male collabs.
Where were you when Ame was talking about an Astel collab right after she had her fucking debut, retard-kun?

>>32735728
You don't have to let them cuck you anon. They don't have to collab with males.

>>32735861
>collabed with males suddenly while catering to unicorns for a year
Honest question, how did that innocent DbD collab in any way constitute her insulting her unicorn fans? They treat each other like grade schoolers or bickering siblings at the utmost.

>>32733615
>all the popular ones are from gen 3
>gen 3 is literally entirely e-girls from niconicodouga that focus the camera on their cleavage in streams with a facecam
haha... no. you will always be a cuck if you watch the most popular girls.

>>32733824
It's gonna go to the dogs, that's what.
Not Niji's future fares much better. ILuna thoroughly displayed that their talent pool is used up. Not a single outstanding member, whereas in you had at least 4/6 knockouts, maybe 5/6 if you were being kind. Hell, even Luxiem, Ethyria, (and depending on your tastes) Holocouncil had at least one chuuba who stood out.

>>32736021
They don't have to collab with males. JP doesn't cuck their fans like this.

>>32735861
>doesn’t speak Japanese
>any reason to make a statement about collabing with males when EN males didn’t exist and only the JPs did
It’s like you are trying to demand that debut Kronii be aware of a future when there would be English speaking male coworkers she would have to be careful of interacting with and make the declaration a year in advance.

>>32732971
Western women, not even once

>>32733865
Just wait til the next paradigm. Vtubing wasn't always streaming. The industry has undergone massive changes in a small amount of years

>>32735987
I don't pretend they're my girlfriends. I watch them because I think they're cute and funny. I really liked the DbD collab, they had good chemistry with the guys. Chemistry really is all I care about in a collab.

>>32736090
I don't get this mindset? Imagine Kronii was actually your irl gf. Would her playing DbD with a male friend constitute her cheating on you?

>>32733884
>>32734346
>>32734723
Such a persistent, creepy mention of ropes... Are male collab cucks all sailors?

What holo would unironically share her parasocial behavior with me and never betray me?

>>32736108
Ok, if you don't mind it i'm not judging you, but i require an oshi that doesn't collab with males and will not support one that does.

>>32735102
>>32734825
And now trees? Arborist anon, please tell me your thoughts on this oak in my backyard. I think it's dead, but I'm not sure it's safe to cut down myself, or if I should call a professional

>>32733434
Tbf Subaru doing it doesnt feel out of place or wrong considering she's a tomboy and likes boy's stuff

>>32733304
No, she's a prostitute as her main job. That's what her vtubing career is.

>>32736180
>Imagine Kronii was your irl gf

Sorry I'm not into that parasocial shit, I just don't want to watch men haha

>>32736272
Honestly, that is absolutely fine. I just don't get the mindset. I hate grifter whores like Mori as much as the next guy, I don't like Vshojo/Niji tier sex and lewd talk. But this collab just wasn't anything like that.

Does them innocently talking with a guy really fuck the gfe that bad for you?

>>32736090
>Rushia Mafumafu incident
>gen 1 has married members
>the hand incident
>Choco’s viewers actively want her to get a boyfriend that isn’t them
>Pekora immediately leeched off male youtubers attempting to get friendly the moment one with more subs than her showed interest in vtubing in the jp sphere
>Polka has a lot of close male friends
>Fubuki
>3/5ths of gen 0 (Suisei, Sora, Roboco) are okay with males
anon
why do you ignore the truth in front of you?
hololive has always been this way.
you've simply turned a blind eye all this time.
open your eyes.

>>32736021
Let me answer the question since this faggot >>32736090 is just a salty gachi.

Nothing fucking happened in the collab. If you watch the VOD for what it is it’s just a bunch of weebs having a good time playing a slasher game. Kronies on the other hand were autistically nit picking every detail trying to justify how Kronii was somehow forced into this collab against her will based on what she said or how she reacted to things. And it all fell apart when 3 things happened:
1) Altare asked the GROUP if any of them (including Veaper) had fake laughs. When it came to Kronii’s turn she used her laugh that she uses on stream and even Bae made a comment along the lines of “Isn’t that just your normal laugh? So you just fake laugh all the time” and the rest of the peanut gallery takes jabs and what not
2) Altare being the toxic psycho gamer that he is is equal parts sandbagging and trolling everyone and his antics made Kronii Nelly laugh like a mad woman not once, not twice, but 3 times. One of those particular occasions Bae also chimes in and says “now that’s a real Kronii laugh”. /inf/ and Kronies in /hlgg/ are starting to lose their shit
3) While Kronii is either healing someone or repairing something in-game, she yells at the top of her lungs “I’m so close! come on baby!” In an heighten, orgasmic sound voice. No one in the collab reacts to this, but /hlgg/ is spamming “NTR Stream” and at least on guy says “So that’s what it sounds like to have your Oshi cuck you”.
From there there is a bunch of doomposting all over the place and Kronie Membership start shaming Kronii in the comments of her schedule post about collabing with Altare. And that’s the start of the big nothing burger that schizos blew out of proportion.

>>32736448
They don't have to collab with males.

>>32736487
>Rushia mafumafu
Not an avoidable collab
>gen 1 has married members
Not an avoidable collab
>hand incident
Not an avoidable collab
>Not an avoidable collab
>Not an avoidable collab
>Not an avoidable collab
>Not an avoidable collab
>Not an avoidable collab

Bruh

>>32735870
Reminder that unicornfags were not the first members in this scenario

>mods allow low quality bait posts now
anons there’s this function called saging a thread.
you can type sage into your options box and it won’t bump the shitty bait thread like this one.
I know I’m not supposed to tell you this, but it seems like you’re all newfags.

>>32736546
Cope
Seethe
Cope
Seethe
Cope
Seethe
Feed
Sneed
Cope
Seethe
Cope
Seethe

>>32736546
>Fbk and Gen 0 as not avoidable
Kek

>>32736520
I respect myself enough to require an oshi that does not collab with males. You don't have to let them cuck you. You can insist that they maintain kayfabe. You don't have to let them turn HoloEn into the cuck branch.

>>32736520
kek, does anyone have the link for the /hlgg/ thread during the collab?

>>32736704
>>32736722
>>32736726
>>32736739
>bumped
ANON WHAT DID ANON LITERALLY JUST TEACH YOU ABOUT BUMPING BAIT THREADS

>>32736739
Search "come on baby" on the archive.

>>32736520
Thanks, so as I figured. /vt/ being shizo...as usual

>THEY DONT HAVE TO COLLAB WITH MALES
yes, but why not?
>Answer reveals deep schizophrenic insecurities about the anons relationship with online anime streamers.
/thread.

>>32736722
So you admit 6/8 of those are bullshit? Kek

Unless your some pay pig who donates likes a grand a month then you really are crying over nothing. Orca cried less than you guys and he gave thousands to Rushia.

>>32732971
Mori is the one to blame for this male shit spreading everywhere.

>>32737036
Yeah I only have problems with Gen 0 worship and Fubuki

>>32736867
Your welcome. So next time you some some deranged schizophrenic thread about male collabs or the death of HoloLive or CGDCT shit, blame the Kronies because they essentially opened the floodgates by forcing Kronii to address the issue (poorly) had drama channel grifters come in and make clickbait, force Kronii into a situation where she is arguing with people in a clipper’s comment section, promoting more visibility, and ultimately getting forced to go on indefinite vacation, which attracted tourists watching the shitshow happen live to come here and start shitting up everything even more. Fuck Kronies, Fuck Kronii too, I hate women.

>>32736980
Short and sweet.

>>32737230
You shouldn't feel anything about it. None of them collabing with males generates any drama. Their handling of their fanbase is closer to Baelz than Kronii's.

>>32732971
Realistically, who's fault is this?

>>32732971
It's okay OP. Your oshi never loved you anyway. Just like everyone else in your life.

>>32732971
take the indie pill

>>32732971
why gosling? isnt it supposed to mean that you love your oshi but really self aware that you will never be with your oshi? why you dont use unicorn images instead? wouldn't that be much better in conveying your concerns right?

>>32737472
Do you have any idea how little that question narrows things down?

>>32736867
>/vt/ being schizo as usual
So Kronii going on break is because /vt/ is being schizo? I think you're missing something

>>32737701
turns out they're the same people

>>32737973
>Kronii’s paypigs live /here/
>go on a crusade because of their namefag Gabe and a couple others like Rice and K1 are seen as “based” for going Martin Luther 95 Thesis Length schizo rants about how they hate Altare but beat around the bush
>everyone else follows suit
>Kronii reasons with them
>everything starts getting worse
Yea, it’s people from /vt/‘s fault.

Makes it funnier when a few days ago there was a possibility Kronii accidentally outed herself on /inf/ with an image that was posted that was then deleted. Which if true, strengthens that she reads what the Schizos post. Ergo, /vt/ had an influence in her actions leading to her getting bonked

>>32737472
Not OP's. He is the victim. Don't you have empathy for OP?

>>32738335
Are you telling me that Kronii is /here/ right now? Or maybe a couple hours ago?

>>32737701
Teamates used Gosling a lot.

>>32735861
Bae also explains herself well enough when discussing the matter, while Kronii spills so much spaghetti when justifying herself that it is very clear that she feels she has something to hide or be ashamed of.

>>32736980
Because people don't like it and it is financially idiotic

>>32736980
You don't have to be a cuck anon. Have some self-respect. Move on to support someone that will show you some consideration.

>>32732971
Embrace non-bitchy whoretubers. They're open about it and will satisfy you.

>>32733865
There are always other corporations and indies. No need to stop watching vtubers altogether.

>>32732971
The end goal is turning EN into a woke branch then infect the main branch like what happened to Sony.

Were you guys under the impression you weren't just watching Twitchwhores but with extra steps this entire time?

>>32732971
Young Gosling, there are but two Chubba types. Inherit the values of Idol culture, or destroy it.
But only a true Chubba can make such a choice.

Idols are brilliant. Beautiful. They enchant us, to the point of obsession.
Some are true to their purpose, though they are but falsehoods, flesh and mind.
One man lost his own Oshi, but lingered on, as a cuck.
Goslings chase the charms of love, however elusive.
What is it that drives you?

Once Mori Calliope discarded Idol culture, and all that stemmed from Hololive.
And deadbeats assumed a fleeting form.
The male collabs are the fruits of her labour.
Goslings are props on the stage of life and no matter how tender, how exquisite...
A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE.
Young Gosling, knowing this, do you still desire peace?

Idols and GFE grant Goslings the illusion of love.
Shackled by falsehoods, they yearn for love, unaware of its grand illusion.
Until, the male collabs appear on the schedule.
We are cursed by this yoke.
As true as the dark that churns within Gachikoi.
All Goslings trust fully the illusion of Idols and GFE.
But is this so wrong?
A construction, a facade, and yet...
A hobby full of warmth and resplendence.
"Idols", are you intent on shattering the yoke, spoiling this wonderful falsehood?

>>32732971
Daily reminder that Hololive has always collabed with men and that the original Hololive idol Tokino Sora collabed with men in the past and continues to collab with men in the present, and even chats in the Holostars chat fairly frequently

You will never manage to make this into a controversy no matter how hard you scream and cry about it

>>32735870
Unicorns were not the original members in this scenario and you're delusional if you think they were

>>32732971
quite frankly, they should be giving refunds for this. these whores are not who you donated to.

>>32732971
Collabing with males has always been hard so the lazy and the uninterested both refused to do it.
Now collabing with males is easy enough that even the lazy can do it.
Essentially the girls are showing their true colours.

Reminder that these SEAshits are the faggots that are shitting up the board with anti-gachikoi and anti-unicorn posts.
https://streamable.com/0ba0z

I don't care if the girls collab with males. I prefer to watch them separately so I just ignore these collabs.

I'm more upset about normies/clipwatchers thinking male collabs are a regular thing and not an odd occurrence, or thinking that Hololive is anything like Nijisanji. Now you have greynames begging for more male collabs, or shipping chuubas as if they were fucking anime characters.

My issue is not with the streamers, but the audience that is being shaped by these collabs.

>>32741755
I thought he was a fat and stabbed multiple times in the stomach by the thumbnail

>>32741571
Idol concept made Ai a queen. And it created the next queen. Only with idol, the dream of fans and chubba is connected, thus creating unity and unity bring power.

>>32741753
I heard paypal can help you chargeback on twitch

What's the point? What do they gain by doing this except for the hatred of those who formerly loved them?
I've been watching Hololive for almost 3 years now. And now Kronii is dead to me. Ame is dead to me. The ONLY reason they are doing this is to hurt the fans that care about them the most. I don't want to lose the only thing I care about.

>>32742179
>What do they gain by doing this except for the hatred of those who formerly loved them?
People on twitter calling them brave

>>32742179
>The fact is, they never love you. They just pretended to do so for your money.
Fuck, I'm talking like a doom fag again

>>32741753
No refunds for voluntary donations, unicorn. Hope you like her buying condoms with it.

>>32732971
Time to sit back and watch holoshartEN crash and burn

>>32742179
If you think about all of this with a normal perspective, then it becomes clear.
First of all remember what is this medium about. You think they don’t know of our viewpoint? Second try to get in their perspective, what is there for them in the long run and last take in consideration what their family, friends have to say.

Basically, the girls themselves can’t go around boasting how successful they are because in the end their line of work is genuinely not much different from a bar stripper, for any normal worker. This stain generates issues in their personal lives too, and the easy route is to show off how normal this medium can be, which is to get males in their side.
They flirt too much? That’s true. Just like us, they also have picked bad habits and think their attitude is normal. Then both sides, hostess and viewers, poke each other ego and everything devolves in them takin petty revenge, because we can’t go to their channel and voice our thoughts.

>>32741571
What did he know?

>>32732971
Luxiem raped council in numbers, so they got mindbroken and choose this way

>>32738380
No

>>32732971
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>>32733815
Real idols make a lot of shilling with males like some holomem did but they don't flirt with males like Ame did
Almost all HoloJP act like idols but almost all HoloEN don't

>>32734442
>just don't watch that stream
NijiEn tried that but turns out men never leave
they will always be there
always

>>32732971
not my problem