/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

sharkpits

Gura cute Gura cute!

Anyways why does she keep saying "jouzou" instead of "jouzu"

Soon we'll get our Gura Dino Plushies, then we can rub the tummy for real.

Gurass

>>32640819
She wants to be mating pressed by people she's annoying. Unfortunately for her, most of us think everything she does is cute.

gura cute

>>32640899
night bud

A child with a full tummy is a happy child

>>32641118
I'll feed her my chum

Reminder that Gura liked this. That's me btw.

Why is Gawr Gura?

>>32641394
I wrote this post

Always thinking of Gura...

https://files.catbox.moe/7ncb66.jpg

does gura like MGQ

Sex with Gura!

Gurass

>>32642202
based

Ah least we know there will be a stream on Friday night.
Hoping for some Rust tonight or tomorrow also. I don’t know exactly when the reset is with the timeline.

>>32642277
What stream is friday night? I must have missed something

>>32642277
Do you mean Saturday night, or did something else drop?

>>32642354
look how fucking small she is. I love her

Gura never tells us if she's going to take some time off, so I'm hoping she gets some proper rests before her sleep schedule gets fucked again.

>>32642375
the virgin wondering where she picked up that japanese vs the chad SHIBUYA

>>32642324
Big brains collab part 2

>>32642347
Bae is Australia, her having something on the 9 means it’s on the evening 8 for US.

>>32642354
Didn't know Kagami was also confused about her gender, is she also fluid?

>>32642404
Bae has it on the 11th on her schedule, making it saturday night again

>>32642404
Yeah, it's the 11th for Bae, which makes it the 10th for the US.

>>32642375
Gura in 2 years will finally start telling us when she's taking a real break consistently.

>>32642460
Retardchama, its Friday night.
>*Previous day
>19:00PDT*

>>32642556
Friday is the 9th. How is Bae going to go from the 11th to the 9th you fucking retard.

>>32642556
Anon, look at the other days. 9 is the month, 11 is the day.

>>32642556
Please never post anything regarding schedules again, thank you.

>>32642499
Her real break will be playing mario kart with us all day, so we'll know when it happens.

>>32642056
cute feet

>>32642619
>>32642663
>>32642675
Fuck you.

>>32642354
I like Gura because she is a otaku like me, except she has friends. Oh god I wish I had friends too ;_;

>>32642759

>>32642765
I don't think she is an otaku, she is a weeb for sure.

Don't you think Gura is due for another new outfit? It's been forever. 3D doesn't count.

>>32642826
We may see new outfits for Myth with their anniversary in a few days

>>32642765
>she has friends

>>32642823
Gura is a Disney otaku.

>>32642863
Disney adult*

>>32642876
No, she's a child.

>>32642765
We can be anon friends if you'd like

>>32642891
No she’s a fish

>>32642840
my schizo tulpa is telling me that Council is waiting for IRyS' redesign to be out before they get their next outfit but i wonder if EN1 is also waiting for her

>>32642928
Thanks anon, have a comfy gura

>>32642992
Hmm, that's a good question. I actually hadn't thought about the Irys thing for Council, but the voices in my head agree. I feel like Myth might still get new outfits before that, but they could also be waiting.

hewwo

>>32642992
My Gura tulpa still won't talk to me...

>>32643236
you are too sane anon, stop taking your meds

>>32643236
you should listen to the voices for once

Is it normal to always be thinking of Gura when I'm not focused or just bored at work

>>32643236
Just keep talking to it and pretend she actually responded, probably for about two or three weeks. Just don't talk about anything too heavy

where shark

I’m shidding myself tonught chumbies

>>32643701
She used to talk to me but I think I corrected her too hard.

>>32643846
In your heart

rust season 3 starts today. any chance of a bigfish sighting?

>>32644323
Minimal.

>>32643846
Here with me!

EXTREMELY important timestamp to watch:
https://youtu.be/IiBHT6yc_wE?t=307

>>32642460
Omfg i forgive this ratt for male collabs just because she posted a schedule...

If the rrat about ID1 announcing 3d debuts in japan is real, than the Myth anniversary will have 3d debut announcements, and that's another fucking month compromised, like the offcollab one.

>>32646771
pretty low bro do you even love Gura?

https://youtu.be/HdEeszD696o&t=12s

>>32646854
FUCKING CUTE

BigFish is out there, you just have to believe.

>>32647265

>>32647265
>>32647333
I'm remaining vigilant.
https://youtu.be/tXkFQrE0LSs
https://youtu.be/yXgAQrKO9uw

bigfish is online

>>32647698
proof ?

>>32647769
There is none.

>>32647769
I can smell her

>>32647840
Saddest day in life.
I knew Gura was just a dream

serrated shark teeth

>>32647943
On my penis. T u T

fuck gura

>>32648148
you see a place to get your dick chewed off, i see Guras waiting mouth for me to feed her my shrunk family.

>>32648474
Yes.

>>32648474
God I fucking wish...

>>32648474
PLEASE

>>32646854
You guys ever notice Gura is actually kind of an engaging story teller? Like, when she's actually holding focus on the story.

>>32648863
No.

Gura's loud stinky smelly butthole braps...

>>32649650
sniiiiiif

>>32649650
No thanks, I'm not a cuckbeat brap lover.

good morning
i love gura

What did Chumbies mean by this?

>>32650081

>>32650081
yeah, me

Gura is watching Sora's live.

NEW SSS!!!
2022 version!!!

Shhh

>>32652145
>that "oh" at the end
Cute.

I really hope for BigFish return to Rust today

Gura will never feed you with her slime...

one day gura will have a solo live, i beleeb

>>32653188
Who do you think will be her guests? Assuming that council will have 3D by then, I think Fauna, Ame and Shion are guaranteed. Probably the rest of SNOT too, if they have some group song they can perform. Idk about umisea, would probably be hard to schedule, and the songs are shit anyway. Mori will almosy certainly be there too, but I would rather forget about her.

>>32653188
How many months of no streams would that take?

>>32653501
3 months

>>32653497
>>32653497
>Would rather forget about Mori
>Not the person who calls your oshi a "f***ing b**ch" and says she "deserved it"
Not saying Mori isn't bad, but Ame's also pretty bad.

Current Rust streams
https://youtu.be/yXgAQrKO9uw
https://youtu.be/Zo727MAdBsg
https://youtu.be/TrPuNNpIiu4
https://youtu.be/rMtnxIshI3I

I'm watching the first three in case Gura shows up, but I won't watch Moona, so someone else do that.

>>32654853
You know you can have it muted, right?

>>32654833
Ame doubling down on that confirmed amesame is dead honestly

>>32654962
It's difficult to pay attention and watch more than 3 at a time.
I don't hate moona or anything, I just like the JP members a million times more.

>>32654833
>>32654999
Hello, Discord. Please eat a bullet or hang from a rope thanks.

>>32648516
abayo nigga

>>32655143
Not them but Ame doing that did tell me that they don't talk on Discord.

She's no more than 11.

>>32654833
If you knew Gura you'd know the "fucking bitch" part wasn't a big deal and didn't hurt her.
What hurt Gura was when Ame kept saying "go away" and wouldn't let her say she was sorry.
But neither of them probably care about it at this point anyway.

>>32655143
Im not going to view anyone calling my oshi that and doubling down on it in a positive light, sorry.

I think I'm going to skip this Rust arc, you guys have fun.

>>32655231
You don't even know what is to have a friend close enough to call them a stupid bitch or a fucking shit cunt. An aussie would traumatize your dramafaggot ass.

>>32655427
oh nyo, its the gold shrimp faggot again

>>32655427
If you think close friend is someone who only sweet talks you upfront then watch Ametori

>>32655427
you don't seem to understand me

>>32655290
Gura being too much of a doormat doesn't excuse Ame's behavior. What Ame did was wrong and she has shown no remorse for it, she deserves to be reprimanded for it.

>>32655516
Retardchama, the golden shrimp fag was crying because people were mean to him, i am the opposite of him if you didn't get the point of my post.

>>32655790
the smart thing is to not talk about it. ame seems to be learning that still

>>32655790
I call my friend names all the time.
You sound like you don't have any friends.
Or maybe you're an indonesian addicted to drama?

isn't it too early to be bickering dumbuds?

>>32655630
>makes a case for shit talking your close friends
>im so retarded i read that as a case agaisnt shit talking your close friends
Dramafaggots really?

>>32655825
fair enough, didn't know there was more than one resident aussie rumao

bigfish on stream

>>32655231
Yeah the whole "they're super close, they talk off stream" always felt like cope and Ame basically confirmed they don't since she couldn't even bother to check up on Gura after that.
>>32655427
That's not really proof of friendship. You could just as easily say what Ame did and with that tone to someone whose not your friend.

>>32656042
no she's not
unless you mean moona

>>32656042
i have /hlgg/ open you know

>>32656091
>check up on gura
over a big nothing? how sheltered are you that you think this whole thing meant anything

>>32656011
I'm a taco and have had a couple aussie friends, we trashtalked eachother and had a good time.

>>32656042
BigFish won't show up until Chloe's stream

>>32656091
Snowflakebud... how are you still alive?

>>32656042
>>32656182
And I'm watching the important streams.
This multiview thing is actually pretty fun.

Unless we see them in myth anni being awkward and standoffish with each other I REFUSE to believe that Ame losing her temper with Gura in rust will have any actual effect on their friendship. They have been fine after far worse infractions.

Rewatch the amesame karaoke vod and tell me honestly if you think rust drama of all things would break that bond.

test

NEVER TO RETURN IS OVER GOODBYE SEE YOU LATTER SHE'S GONE GONE GONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FINISHED NO MORE OUT OF THE PIcTURE DONEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32656948
*cums in your ear

>>32656345
Of course they are still friends. Obviously Gura will always love her chumbies more, but she can handle a few tantrums from either of us.

>>32656345
they're women so who knows

Gura child pussy

>>32656222
Gura was clearly bothered by it and I thought Ame was the "caring person who always makes sure to check up on other people" (though that's clearly a lie)
>>32656345
Again, Gura being a doormat and not doing anything back doesn't mean Ame's behavior was acceptable nor should Ame be regarded positively anymore. Ame's pretty much Mori tier if not worst (saying otherwise was what started this chain).
Also at the very least we know they aren't close enough that they "talk offstream alot" like what Gurame shippers claimed all the time to write off how distant they are.

Gura mention soon

WIFE

GURA MENTION

Ojisan has Duolingo in his recommendation kek

>>32657971
Lmao he is just like me
Susan i kneel

>Yagoo numberfagging

>>32657971
isn't he the original Ojisan that talked about the Duolingo stream?

>>32658534
yeah i think so

can someone edit this to UOH

>>32657158
I never said Ame's behaviour was acceptable, she blew up at her and despite people trying to say she doubled down she clearly felt bad enough to jump to address it in supa sunday when a tangentially related superchat cropped up - she admitted she lost it, said she wouldn't have said something like that if she hadn't and then justified herself because like it or not that is Ame's personality and she didn't want to admit complete fault in the situation.

Is it perfect? No but it is the closest thing to an apology on stream anyone is going to get and It doesn't make her a bad person, just a bit of a stubborn one which everyone who watches Ame knew already.

Your have your own headcanon about what it says about how close they are offstream which can be safely disregarded and and I don't care how you think Ame should be regarded in the future - this whole thing is ridiculous and I expect you will see that when myth anni comes around and nothing has changed.

>>32659006
>Ame says Gura "deserved it"
>Claims she didn't double down
Ame apologist, if that's really the best she can do then yes, she is a bad person.

>>32657158
holy snowflake, nothing happened
you're probably one of those people who spam YABE YABE when there is a sideboob on stream

>>32659668
Yeah that's why I said in my post she tried to justify herself, doubling down would have been saying something like "Yeah I called her a fucking bitch, because she is"
You are clearly very sensitive about this but I guarantee you that the girls do not care about this at all at this point and you do not need to either, wait and see how they interact in the future if you are SO convinced it is an actual issue until then this "drama" is not even worth entertaining no matter how slow the thread is.

I like the gills I want to stick my fingers in them

>4th fes confirmed
I'm guessing Gura has already booked to go to Japan this time, hence the nihongo reps

>>32660131
There's nothing to "justify" Ames in the wrong 100٪ and her refusal to admit fault even saying Gura deserved it makes her a bad person. For the umpteenth time, Gura being a doormat and letting Ame get away with it doesn't make what she did alright. It's not about "drama", it's about right and wrong, and Ame is in the wrong.

>>32660131
There's nothing to "justify" Ames in the wrong 100 percent and her refusal to admit fault even saying Gura deserved it makes her a bad person. For the umpteenth time, Gura being a doormat and letting Ame get away with it doesn't make what she did alright. It's not about "drama", it's about right and wrong, and Ame is in the wrong.

Would you lick Gura's gills? I would in a heartbeat. I wonder what they would feel like on my tongue..

Gura please.....
Why do we always need to be ghosted?
I just want to go back to 2021 Gura

>>32661271
not ghosted this time....just without streams

>>32661271
Being a chumbie is suffering.

>>32661271
Then call her out on her ghosting

>>32661467
When?
She doesn't stream or read superchats

>>32661271
Because gura is a ghost

>>32661603
You keep saying this every single week btw

>>32661467
And then what? Not like others haven't tried. Nothing ever changes.

>>32661658
>you
Also maybe she should stream then

>>32656345
>Rewatch the amesame karaoke vod and tell me honestly if you think rust drama of all things would break that bond.
Literally the best stream gura's ever done and it will never be topped, AMESAME is eternal it's a more important friendship than anything else in EN

>yawn

https://youtu.be/aVSEJ_Qs2Gk?t=4637
They begin to talk about Gura here

>>32661981
arigatou

today is wednesday. gura will stream tonight

>>32661271
You want more streams and better communication? Fuck off, anti.

>>32662266

I'm hungy

>>32662871
GURA I LOVE YOU

>>32662871
go eat something goob

Gura has definitely peed at least once within the past 24 hours. Think about it. Gura stood up, went to the bathroom, lifted her oversized t-shirt exposing her puffy cunny, sat on the toilet, let her cunny nectar go down the drain, took a piece of paper or some old rag she had lying around (maybe she even used the t-shirt that she was wearing) and pushed it against her slit to soak up the ambrosia that was still on her little cun cun. What a wonderful sight that must have been...

test

>>32662934
Ame was right, she is a fucking bitch! How could she waste that sweet nectar? Why not bottle it up and ship it to her most loyal chumbud (me). Or even better, why not hire me as her living toilet. I won't let a single drop get to waste.

>>32662934
This but she used my tongue instead of toilet paper or shirt

>>32662871
Please eat some real food Goob I am begging you

Hi cuties~ Should I stream Rust, Holocure or spooky game tonite ?

>>32663358
spoopy game you goofball

>>32663358
Spooky game and please make sure to drink A LOT of water before the stream ;)

I miss her so much.

>>32663358
die larper

She will play Rust tonight or no stream until Saturday. That's the deal

I want to drown in Gura's piss

>>32663358
fake Gura would never have the courage to ask for holocure early access

I really hope she streams today or at least leave a members post...

>>32663358
eat shit faggot, she hasn't ONCE typed like this when she's posted here.

Good chance of kissy ASMR tonight.

>my oshi ghosts me
>girl pretending to be my oshi ghosts me

>>32662871
I need to feed gura...

>>32663565
You will get 4 Twitter likes and a Retweet and you will be thankful.

>>32642765
Good one.

>>32663565
Oh she'll stream today, it'll be Rust, probably a collab, no SCs. Then enjoy your Gura crumbs on other streams, as she goes back into the void.

Just checking in to get my hourly bigfish sighting update

Tongue punching Gura's pissy cun cun

>Playing MarioKart with you guys today helped me forget some IRL stuff
Fast forward
>I wanna play MarioKart with you guys all day
Depression arc...

>>32665044
This is one of those things she'll only think while busy. Given the opportunity, she'll never in a million years do it.

>>32665532
Gurass...

WHERE IS GURA?
IS SHE SAFE?
IS SHE ALRIGHT?

>>32663333
holy digits

>>32665788
>in bed with me
>not as long as I'm around
>she's ogey

I hope we get more fun JP interactions.

>>32666511
baby shark...

https://poal.me/b3ylp2

>>32666652
nice poal teamate

>>32666652
No stream until Thursday.

>>32666726
a teakek would have left discussion open, I just want to see what the consensus is.

>>32666815
ugly art, never post again

>>32666652
maybe

>>32666815
>someone finally did an amesame version of this
thank god, sick of seeing the version with in*

>>32666840
I'm going to post it more to spite you.

>>32666893
based, post more amesame

>>32666726
>>32666771
Stop being mean to Teamates please..

>>32666922
No.

>>32666930
nyo

Trinity... home...

>>32658929
did my best anon

>>32666961
The yellow whore doesn't belong there

>>32666930
teamates are literally scum.

GURA PÍSS ON MY BED AAIIIEEEEEEEEEE

>>32667044
uh yeah that knife? me.

Does anyone's nendo still haven't been sent yet too? Should I start writing them e-mails? I do live in slavic Europe though.

They increased the yield from resources like rocks, wood, etc and also uncapped the timer for decay. This could end up meaning she actually won't play off-stream as often since she doesn't need to grind shit anymore.

>>32667313
>Gura liked this on twitter

>>32667078
My order status changed to "Preparing Shipment" sometime earlier this week. You should be fine

Is gura dead?

>>32667078
I live in Mexico, mine arrived a week ago.

>>32667078
have patience
I wouldn't worry if it still says processing. not like its lost in the mail or something.

>>32667416
Damn, you must live in the sticks...

gura rust later today right
fuck I should sleep just in case

Oh nyo, she is inside my PC.

>>32667653
Not really I live in the capital of my state.
It's just that I got my nendo on the second run.
ToT

>>32667992
wtf get her out

>>32668216
If she doesn't stream today i will let her out.

>>32667992
cum on her and your GPU
I just watched a video of a dude cumming on his GPU wtf

>>32668444
is a hyphen your boyfriend?

>>32668499
Your mom is by girlfriend.

do you have what it takes to make Gura cum?

>>32667007
calm down lily

>>32668716
Ignore the tranny, post cute gurass.

>they are still trying

>>32668736

>>32668749
I love when they pretend to be chumbuds while thread shitting and bait posting like they arent the issue or something.

P

>>32668950
made for my chum

tongue fuck guras gill slits

>>32668950
Gura piss on my cock T u T

I'm gonna take a shit

>>32669305
Didn't ask.

I'm back from shitting

S-surely today goob will stream, it's wednesday after all

>>32669510
Again, i wasn't asking.

>>32669498
I had a lot of garlic today so the smell was really bad

>>32669510
based

No goob till friday...

>>32669574

>>32669574
Stop eating Shion's pussy you dumb shark

>>32669663
puffy...

Ganbare JOPs, learn that eigo from Gura

Gura, I will be away training for two weeks starting tomorrow, please give me kisses tonight to tide me over until I come home.

>>32669844
Based

>>32669574
mouth brap

How's it hanging chumbies?

>>32669974
collecting miku cunny right now how bout you tako

>>32669974
breddy gud, gura is going to stream today and blow everyone's nips off

>>32670046
I can only view Miku as a sexual object.

>>32670046
Would collect and correct. T u T

>>32670046
Rewatching ina's sts stream from yesterday. She was super duper cute and she loved the game. Cute mikunny!

>>32670101
Why are non revealing clothes so erotic on Gura?

>>32670170
I'm glad she decided to actually do something with the membership, I was considering dropping it but now I'm glad I didn't.

>>32669974
its alright, its hanging right

>>32670308
Yeah i'm not gonna defend the extremely sparse members content. I'm hoping it picks up now that she's settled in her new home and the anni stuff gets resolved this week

>>32670254
she's like a kid dude

>>32670431
NTA but that's the best part TuT

https://youtu.be/A2i6ksk__Sc?t=4525
Gura. Explain what you meant by this and the member wallpaper.

>>32670431
TuT
That's part of her charm.

>>32670431
Body shamer.

>>32670431
T u T

>>32670395
>I'm hoping it picks up now that she's settled in her new home and the anni stuff gets resolved this week
I want more drawing streams from her, really she could easily have a gura-level membership if she put the effort into it

>>32670431
bruh

>>32669510
Haha poopoo

>>32670431
I know right?
She is a literal child...

>>32670546
That the wallpaper is going to be Gothic Lolita not girly Lolita.

>>32670546
>I could look at it on somebody else and be like "hey that's nice"

>>32670673
yeah

>>32670431
T u T

I'm starting to feel like Gura doesn't want me to love her and that she's trying to push me away.

>>32671030
yeah she's pushing away the weaklings

gura cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1snaf-UGEMw

>>32661981
There is EN subtitle btw

>>32671072
Gura... please... do it for ojisan...

>>32671277
Didn't she try to do a part 2 and get cucked by perms?

>>32671353
yes. supposedly perms are a nightmare for it

>>32671353
Yes, but she said she would reschedule it implying it was just a temporary thing

>>32671413
Gura reschedules are pretty much "I will never do this again". Testament to how much she wanted Big Brain games to work that she actually is doing it again.

>>32670546
She was talking about actual clothing, the art itself is cute

>>32670431
Gura's small girlish shape...

>>32671072
Newfags like you will never understand how good we had it.

Gura will stream today, right?

>>32671642
shark-girl idol huhaha

>>32671603

delivery doko?

I'm annoyed
https://twitter.com/ArcadiaMKII/status/1566727030405664768

Here's my rrat
She's not gonna stream until Brain Games part 2 because she doesn't want a different VOD between the two brain game VODs

>>32672890
makes sense

>>32672890
That's fucking retarded but so is Gura...

>>32672890
members streams until the collab. Nice

>>32672890
My wife is so autistic

>>32672890
>Screwing up a stream because she was too lazy to prepare properly is an excuse to not stream for a week
Amazing

>>32672954
>>32673013
>>32673023
I refuse to believe people will unironically accept this as an excuse for not streaming

Chumbuds....

>>32673366
Eh, Gura cute, she can get away with anything.

>>32673366
I would only accept it as an excuse if there was a member stream

>>32672890
that means today is member's only then?

>>32672890
She could always do a member stream, there's no excuse for not streaming for a fucking week

My future eyesight revealed to me that Gura is taking a week off after all the projects she has worked on since these past few months because she deserves to take care of herself more and shut herself from Hololive for a bit. Brain Games was supposed to be her last one, but unfortunately things didn't work out as planned and have to do a retake this Friday. Also since Myth anniversary is just around the corner, she'll be dropping a schedule because she has to shill her own merch for her anniversary.

>>32673376
UUUUUOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MY CHILD

Reminder:
https://youtu.be/tQcV9eEH7fk?t=11965

>>32673076
OBS stop posting you piece of shit

>>32673565
Sure there is, you'll watch her anyway so she doesn't have to worry. That's what trust means.

>>32673760
It's true. This brat weaponized her cuteness. I can't resist her.

>>32672890
Here is my rrat
She wont stream because she doesnt like to stream

I cant believe Gura is ending up the Ayame of EN

members stream is guaranteed either friday or saturday before the collab because she'll need to shake out the fear of it all collapsing again by snuggling up with us

>>32673471
This is true.

>I will be so mad if she doesn't do a members stream
>I will be so mad if she doesn't "go back to normal"
>I will be so mad if she doesn't post a schedule
>I will be so mad if she only streams Rust
That's all you can do, sit here and cry about how angry she makes you but you won't do shit.

Cunny, I kneel.

I'm excited to see what she's working on.

>>32673788
>It's OBS fault she didn't stress test and forgot to turn off auto-stop

>>32674065
ok cuckmate

I'm gonna cheat on my oshi

Ayame Jr

>>32674649
Yeah, with me

Things will be back to normal in October...haha...

>>32674554
Where's the lie? No matter what she does you won't do anything.

>>32674797
Give the poor girl some more time for fuck's sake, December at the earliest.

>>32674797
>Things will be back to normal when she gets better
>Things will be back to normal after HoloFes
>Things will be back to normal after the house search
>Things will be back to normal after her Birthday
>Things will be back to normal in July
>Things will be back to normal in August
>Things will be back to normal in September
>Things will be back to normal...

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/101019649

>>32675034
Gura didn't like it.. she HATES Gawr

>>32674977
this is the normal now

>>32674977
We are already entering the "posting schedules and streaming more is bad because my sharkie doesn't like it" phase
Copebuds are an insult to this fanbase

>>32675216
If October is more of the same I'm just gonna have to accept this as fact

>If you don't shit your diaper like I do when gura doesn't stream for a few days you're a fakebud
lemao

>Still trying

>>32675287
This but unironically

>>32674977
>It will be back to normal after we finally see all the projects...

>>32675287
Careful anon, they'll call you a
>newfag that just doesn't know how good we had it
and shit even harder