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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>9975>4 man NijiEN Collab at CN timeWhat a sad number. Even more than Shu who got 11k with 4 other people. How do we save NijiEN? Their numbers keep plummeting.
So, HoloRust will get gold tomorrow?
>>32667018Isn't it Botan's birthday? Does she have anything planned?
>>32667018No Fuwa will stream and get gold just like todays <20k stream kek
>>32667004NijiEN can casually draw 65k people in for a split POV collab, while HoloEN is hardcapped at 35k. HoloEN is the thing that needs saving.
I wonder if NijiEN will play Rust after their Minecraft server got nuked by Luca
>>32667018pekora said anything about her playing the game ?
>that vox indo anons email links to a pornhub account>shemalesbut why....
>>32666730>Kino, looks like NijiEN are turning the tide for Nijisanji in terms of hours watched.It is not that they didn't add anything but the jump from NIjiJP between June and July this year is >LARGER THAN THE WHOLE HOURS WATCHED PUT BY NIJIENThere is nothing in this metric that even suggest NijiEN "saved NIjiJP", they're at most carry their own weight>pic related
>>32667086kek
>>32667075Saw some people saying Totsu. Should probably be a 40k+ stream.
>>32667090NijiEN is going to be playing Rust on the Vshojo server with OTV people. The numbers and kino will be off the chart.
>>32667107Also from last thread for those who missed: even if you take Hours Watched, here is the sum for the past 12 complete months>317,768,628: COVER>300,777,964: AnycolorEven in that metric that heavily favor number of channels and number of streams COVER channels are ahead of Anycolor channels.>pic related for the split per month
>>32667116another horse race between holos
>>32667129nice. more drama is coming
>>32667107>slight decline from july to augustjesas will their august to september decline dwarf this ?
>>32667100>zero opsecwhy, just why...why do you even use your main email for something like that
Pekora already making preparations. Who know when she will officially join Season 3
>>32667094not yet, Marine maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWM-Y039uGY
>>32667100>Indonesian shemale>Voxfag>ERASEERASE>ERASEERASE>ERASEERASE
>>32667183drama brings numbers. this might be the thing that propels nijiEN into proper mainstream status in the the west.
>>32667216>Marine rust curseI'll give it a generous 15k
>>32667205he had opsec but his opsec was retarded since the email account that he uses is just 1 number away from his throwaway accounts
>>32667194>jesas will their august to september decline dwarf this ?Here is the current count for September with full week gone by>5,463,464: Cover>3,886,080: AnycolorThat's for six complete days and a change. Times five and should give the approx end of the month number, which would put them slightly above their Sep 2022 number and with the approx same delta between them
>>32667094Beside her saying she wants to join Miko in S3 at the closing segment of S2 war?
marine is now 100k ahead of pekora and even with mori, who at this rate she will overtake quite soon
>>32667259sure anon
>>32667276That's even worse jesus christ
>>32667249>drama bring numbersvox lost 25k subs b2 because sonny kek
>>32667194>>32667283I think the reason for the decline is that some of them are doing idol reps for the festival
>>32667276That's not opsec. That's like claiming you hid your fucking username by changing a digit as 'opsec', jeezuz fucking christ on a pogostick.
>>32667100>>32667205>>32667276For the rest of the class which doesn't know what is being talked aboutFunniest thing? The only way to win is to STFU, these retards end up putting a HUGE "fuck me" sign over themselves by doing this stupid shit in places that require authentication
>>32667100
>no EN3 announcement a month before October at a big company event What the actual fuck it's been over a goddamn year now why do they keep dragging their fucking dicks? Does it have to do with the whole "you can apply if you're with another agency or company but you have to terminate your contract with them if you pass the audition" shit? Did someone from Nijisanji EN apply and hold up the entire fucking gen?
>>32667293Your pic is old anon...
>>32667293>holo vs holoSora gold/Kiara cripple gold really broke you that much, huh.
>>32667100Who's gonna behead him first, the moslems or soratomos
>>32667335It's not just idol reps, it's the fact they latch on several very Japanese summer traditions for their content, meaning a good segment of their audience is equally seasonal>Radio Taiso>Koshien>Niji morning
>>32667354>expecting an announcement for something in October this early especially debuts
>>32667354>mad if they do it>mad if they dont do itI hope they do something sudden like Holox
>>32667354i would laugh my ass off if that actually happens
>>32667402the moslems soratomos will
>>32667100Da fuck you doing on PH at this hour anon?
>>32667380who cares about gura tho
>>32667354The EN auditions are a show at this point. They have no intention of ever releasing another EN gen. It's best just to ignore its existence.
>>32667381jp vs en is more improtant than whatever the second-tier orgs are doing
>>32667107>turning the tide>its just simple total, so the more you spam new members, the more it goes up
>>32667094She's already playing offstream.
>>32667444was interested in stuff that guys email is attached with.
>>32667354If they're not dumb they'll go with HoloX route and just say, on Myth's anniversary>And a ten day HoloEN celebration will follow from today>New outfits for Council in the next four days, IRyS remodel the next day and HoloEN 3 debuts in the next five days
>>32667354Surprise debuts brings in the biggest numbers, see holoX
>>32667325Is that the reason vox going insane numberfagging?
>>32667496I fucking know that, but there's no way you know the fucker's into shemales just by looking
>>32667498>IRyS remodel the next dayI though her remodel was late october early november? did it change
>>32667498>IRyS remodelOctober
>>32667325>losing 25klooks like a nothing burger
>>32667444When you're digging the crumbs people leave every single public site that requires authentication is usually checked, including all social media sites and all porn sites.You wouldn't believe the amount of people that shitpost in pseudonymous sites like Reddit (and even this humble one) and then use the same username or email to subscribe to all sorts of public sites, sometimes linking their shitposting selves to their own selves
Wow, salami recline is real.Why niji management fcking failure?
>32667259Not even trying anymore huh?
>>32667100>>32667344holy kek
Is this the dumbest thread on this board?
>>32667579YOU ALL DOUBTERS, APOLOGIZE TO THE SULTAN PROPHET!> KNEEL TO THE PROPHET (PBUH)!TOUCH YOUR FOREHEAD IN THE PRAYING MAT!
>>32667498council outfits, kek. won't even beat obsydia.25k max.
>>32667526I think you can see some favorites video on someone's account info
>>32667526Nta but you can if he comments on the vids. Its one of the few things that people who post emails on this site get busted for back then since they mostly comment meme comments on porn vids in order to become that rene descarte meme
>>32667579It's her fault. She streams infrequently and for very little amounts of time. That happened to the holoX members who did the same thing as well. She needs to grind like Koyori if she wants her numbers back now.
>>32667579its Salome's fault not the company
>>32667088Yes I too can pull numbers out of my ass.
Finally think about Luca yab. Shit must be heart wrenching for them if they really can't restore the server. Pretty sure Subaru is still maintaining HoloJP old server out of nostalgia.
>>32667526you can see favorites on some accounts
I can't believe they announced holofes4/super expo 6 months in advance. I guess Yagoo has some connection with the government due to all the corona relief things Cover did.
>>32667665>grindOops didn't work on Lui, what now?
>>32667697Their collab and attitude towards Luca would never be the same.
>>32667619it's up there for sure
>>32667344nijitranny? nijitranny
>>32667665Dont mean to trash talk Koyori but is she on the level of someone who streams little like Korone or Aqua? There will be shitposts anyway but for discussion sake I ask this as a serious question.
>>32667697Pomu and Uki are like the only ones who really used it it's not like Holos server.
>>32667619mans is worse
>>32667697>maintainingLike not deleting the server files I guess
>>32667697Is this finally another trigger for fanbase war in china?
>>32667100Absolutely haram. I'd laugh if indo bros will make an anonymous tip to the gov't
Salome horror game = gold 100%
>>32667718nothing works on lui, i've never seen a shitter get shilled this fucking hard to only get like pity dead subs
This is why you should have at least 5 different emails for various purpose anon-tachiplease do your opsec
>>32667801>fanbase war>as if pomu/finana has a sizable chinese fanbase>as if the chinese in their fanbase would dare attack the fujoslast female that tried to fall into the bad graces of fujos was aia and look where she is now
>>32667831Yes BRO > like The Quarry
>>32667354It's too early, and I have a feeling they're gonna try the Holox model of "SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKERS, HERE'S EN3" instead of the dumb long-drawn-out cubelore of Council.
>>32667697>>32667746>>32667774>>32667790>>32667801Fuck off, nijishills
>>32667697>All of Pomu's build including all the materials for he upcoming shadow moses>Vox's castle he's been building for 6 months>Sonny's VSF HQ>All the QQL stuff Nina did which was a fuck ton>All of Selen's xp farms>Uki's everything, dude has built to many things to count>Millie's recently built quartz house>Yugo's DJ club>Lord Pentomo>All the prelim work done for HalloweenGot those from archiveThere would be riots
>>32667697speaking of, i wonder what happened to the CN server. i remember it having a huge castle looking at the rare haachama bilibili stream i watched once.
>>32667697>Shit must be heart wrenching for them if they really can't restore the server.Even if they CAN restore the server, anything that gets lost (usually a few days / weeks) can never be put back together.Think about it: imagine if the same thing happened to HoloMC server and it rolled back to, let's say, May.Everything they made for Sana, everything they made for the Summer Fes, all of the contraptions made by Moona for Kronii bunker, all of Kaela's grind, all lost in the myst.Even the good lads in this thread that usually mock nijis for their misfortune took pity on them, specially on Pomu which was clearly holding back tears
>>32667628Niji Management is failure confirmed.thanks sultan
>>32667891>All the prelim work done for HalloweenWait i thought that was on a different server like the pool event for october?
>Koyo still has 16-17k CCV 4hr laterUnicorn bros stay winning
>>32667853>This is why you should have at least 5 different emails for various purpose anon-tachiThat's actually why you use https://10minutemail.com/ or similar services, create a burner, use to sign in, let it expire and don't care if you need to create another account, as you don't attach your personal self into anything you sign up into the internet
>>32667790Pretty sure she has to pay for it
>>32667697why did that retard have admin privileges anyway? management's not running the server?
>>32667718>>32667832lui's problem is that she doesnt know what kind of streamer she is
>>32667960leeching whore.
>>32667960
>>32667801I don't think Chink sisters care about Minecraft like that.
>>32667886the quarry not a horror game holo retarded
>>32667853This is why I don't troll people at all, just invites schizos to fuck you up.
>>32667994Salome reclined really hard
>>32667968Yea, these are TRUE burner emails, one and done, never to look back. >>32667853Well, that's useful for things like MMOs where you know you're in for the long haul but don't want it to be associated with anything else. A separate standalone email that won't get traced to anything else.
>>32667971it's chum change to her so might as well keep it for memory sake
>>32667976Some nijifag said that the server is finanas and finana gave admin priv to luca cause they were planning to make something horror related
>>32667697Meh, a nothingburger. Pretty sure they have backups.
>>32667994Imagine posting this a few months ago. Salome was a 100k CCV streamer and Koyori was struggling to get 3-4k
>>32667994koyo is being compared to salome. koyobros are winning
>>32667354They aren't going to do it before Myth anniversary, anon. Mythfags will, rightfully if I might add, throw a fit for "EN3 stole Myth's spotlight in their anniversary". I guess at most, they will announce it at the end of Myth's anniversary (and there will probably still be some QQ, but not significant enough), or perhaps a week or two after that
>>32668047Welp, pray that slutfish has backups further back than a day or two before the fuckup, or else things are gonna get ugly.
>>32667853>5 I dont know how i could survive with just 5. I actually have at least 40 ones that i use and rotate
>>32667960No idea why Cover pushes Chloe and Laplus more than her, she is carrying the entire branch. Or may be because she is good enough already so they push those that are less relevant than her?
>>32668065I guess you fall a lot faster than someone else can rise
When will other corpos start producing actually good lives?Just look at this shit, it's six degrees above everyone else while also using the medium to it's fullest!https://youtu.be/Og20IN6AV-A?t=3077
>>32667861Qrd on Aia? Pretty brave of her being against the Luxiem dudes, I'm assuming.
>>32668015anyone was going to recline hard as fuck after getting 120k for a regular game stream, 20k zatsu still puts her indisputably in the top 10 of world vtubers
Salome = Hololive 3rd army ?
Thank God the seiso idol daisempai Sora does not have any lewds.
>>32668092La+ and Chloe dump a lot of covers
>>32667498>thinking Cover would put that much effort into EN
>>32668133no it doesnt
>>32668088I think she does if she wasnt retarded. Best case scenario would be her having a 7 day rollback backup, worse case would be 1 month and retard case would be several months and im sure even fish is not dumb enough to do that
>>32667146Yeah no shit there must be at least 50 nijis who are 3views or worse.
>>32668076Not trying to stir shit but I just have a revelation when you said that since I realize that Gura is being compared to nearly everyone.
>>32668151>La+Her RM dumped more covers than Laplus did since Laplus' debut
>>32668148just you wait until tallyanon posts my mistaken friend
koyo getting compared to salome is like the fucking funniest thing after the whole tweet drama
>>32668109Why is she doing a live in Ark? is she an ark chuuba?
>>32668109the fuck kek, camera work kinda sucks, but hey if they can get past the cringe factor this could be the beginning of anime openings done live.
>>32668133>anyone was going to recline hard as fuck after getting 120k for a regular game stream,yes but not this fast>>32665221
>>32668265kys crossposter
keep the pictures wholesome
>>32668206I was comparing just inside HoloX, fact check me tho, does Lui has more than La+?
>choco killed koyo twice and looted herKORE WA RUSTO
>>32668265/#/ is always wrong, predictions made by people here aren't worth shit
>>32668303
https://twitter.com/ANIPLUS_SHOP/status/1567418237876580352Aniplus (KR collab) is still going hard with Myth campaign.Now they release limited menu for Ame and Gura.
I don't psychology but what did a chuuba mean when they change a normal stream thumbnail to one like this?
https://youtu.be/aVSEJ_Qs2GkEOPs, there's English CC now.
>>32668292nijiseethe
Predictions for Pomu MC?
>>32668303>this is soras greatest fear
>>32668372
can't believe this guy is still around
>>32668375Wait, what?Hasn't this been going for a month at least?How many IPs did Cover give to animeplus?
>>32668375I wonder how much Cover paid them to run this collab. Must have cost a lot.
Shitposting aside, is Koyori comparable to Salome at all? I mean, having an actual discussion is not bad, right?
>>32668375Ame would die eating her limited dish.
>>32668390Could be a case of Susan smacking down the thumbnail because they thought it was too much.
>>326684118k peak and then slow drain when all she is doing is farming
>>32668397This comedian host brought up he liked Gura's Japanese learning streams. He's the reason why the duolingo VOD took off like that. It's all just him.
>>32668375This shit feels like a second Omocat, it runs forever.
>>32668440Is he still a mikecat/nazuna paypig?
>>32668466Aniplus asked them.
>nijikeks lose everyday>Still shit all over the boardWhy are they so shameless?
>>32668469Koyo is-Cuter-Funnier-Deserves her incline-Hasn't declinedKoyo is obviously superior.
>>32668357I mean its amazing that anycolor failed to utilize the JP version of Gura and Kobo (both of which are number anomalies) and made her decline this fast this low and this early. I honestly though cover had the more incompetent management but salome proved me wrong
>>3266799335p hate koyo because she got the Pekoboost
>>32668520nijikek only care about en gold.they dont care about niji jp
>>32668440he was still oil baroning mknk after the debacle alongside chloe, no idea if he's figured out twitch to drop fat stacks on nazuna
>>32668503YOU WILL WATCH THE DUOLINGO STREAM
>>32668375>you will never eat guras bagel
>>32668556but they still get destroyed in the cripple tally every month
>>32668454did you see the amount of people that attended it?it's probably Aniplus that paid Cover for this, but they must have earned back that money 10 times over
tier list made by jap
>>32668574
>>32668567quick check on her channel seems hes still at it to some degree at least
>>32668503>This comedian host brought up he liked Gura's Japanese learning streamsTHAT FUCKER WAS THE REASON WHY I KEPT GETTING RECOMENDED THAT VID?
>>32668598I read Tirelist, not tierlist
>>32668375>ame gets the superior food and merchkek
>>32667447Tempus is an EN gen (even if they are StarsEN instead of HoloEN), and they debuted less than two months ago. People are still adjusting to the boys being around, it wouldn't make sense to debut a whole new gen of girls so soon after them.
>>32668556they literally get shit on in cripple tally every month though?
>>32668633https://youtu.be/aVSEJ_Qs2Gk?t=4699
>>32668613That's just to appease nazuna and fandeads. The guy has 2k fandeads following him. JOP fanbase are tight knit unlike ENs.
>>32668613how the fuck do we save him
>>32668440I respect him. If i become oil baron someday I’ll donate to my oshi.
>>32668674>old Japanese businessmen like and watch guraWtf? I thought old jap businessmen hated lolis and loved hags based on my jap doujins
>>32668714he's a shameless two-timer though
>>32668527Koyo flirts with me in mem asmr and also tells me gn with hearts everyday. She wins easily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1niJqKdEHgEN GOLD
>>32667960kobo inclining though, off yourself
>>32668728>I thought old jap businessmen hated lolisYou got it the other way around>MILFs want shotas>ojisans want lolis
>>32668696he doesnt need savingif he is an oil baron/whale like me then that is probably chump change only difference is that i use the 90% of the money on gacha and mobile games rather than vtubers
>>32668728you're reading different ones from me then
>>32668728everyone likes lolis and if they pretend they dont theyre virtue signaling
>>32668750More like EN bottom of the trash pile
>>32668750she really doesn't give a fuck anymore
>>32668696teaching them programming.
>>32668737you can't blame him anon. he'll never get to experience idol kino again if goes all in with mikecat.
>>32668807speaking of mike did she collab with connor yet?
>>32668754>Leeches off 5 million sub vtuber>Gets worse numbers Sure indocuck
>>32668375Myth's logo is sick
>>32668469Koyo has lower numbers, but she holds their interest better.
>>32668750Who has been feeding Mori all these kusoge? Her choices of streaming games weren't this bad before, actually included some buff games now and then and all that
>>32668555wasn't she literally helping miko with the mogus game this week
>>32668793No idea if they dont give a fuck, or they know their actual data which we dont have and can do whatever. Im appalled by the dedication to stream crap game instead of clinging to FOTM. Jesus fuking Christ if the next big event (that Holo 3rd fes or expo for example) one of the EN is getting a spotlight instead of a JP I have no idea what to think any more.
How do we save holoID?
Its wild seeing koyori above salami kekw.From 100k vtuber to 20k shitters and lose to coyote
>>32667665Unironically she used to stream almost everyday but no one know why the sudden stop. She can't burnt out THAT fast. Especially considering she only stream like 1 hour a day
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>84,063: Sora (Hololive)>70,876: Hololive (Hololive)>35,036: Subaru (Hololive)>28,998: Flare (Hololive)>27,756: Pekora (Hololive)>21,590: Kiara (Hololive)>20,980: Subaru (Hololive)>19,678: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>19,089: Koyori (Hololive)>18,596: Miko (Hololive)>18,145: Luna (Hololive)>17,453: Kanae (Nijisanji)>15,683: Chloe (Hololive)>15,235: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>14,894: Korone (Hololive)>14,479: Choco (Hololive)>13,773: GatchmanV (Indie)>12,645: Kanata (Hololive)>11,955: Shu (Nijisanji)>11,488: Hal (Neo Porte)>11,371: Fauna (Hololive)>11,046: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)>10,983: Laplus (Hololive)>10,663: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,165: Mumei (Hololive)Sora daisenpai SMASHING her previous personal record to lead a very strong day for Hololive
>>32668881She got big money from music deals she can play as many kusoge as she can.Except Persona maybe lol
>>32668942>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live>PER COMPANY6x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Ayame, Pekora1x: Fuwa, Marine, Sora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY156x: Hololive84x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER31x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru7x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>32668942
>>32665183>Koyori is just the better streamer and entertainerkek, no, she's not, she just shills herself more. (/streams more.)
>>32668916Does anyone have the koyote growth chart?
Since we're already talking about her, what is Koyori doing right now? I just have her on the background and all I hear are screams of agony
>>32668781ok chinman
>nijiEN inclining>holoEN reclininghow do we save hololive?
>>32668555But the coyote is literally PekoMiko daughter? Both of them love her
>>32668942>>32668976
>>32668942REMEMBER TO POST TASTEFUL LEWDS>ANKIMO IS WATCHING!
>>32668942sora lewds sora lewds sora lewds
>>32668556they do worse in the cripple tally than they do in the regular one, and thats with gura barely streaming lately
>>32668993bear food
>>32668987kys crossposter
>>32668942>>32669022
>>32668993Being cute
https://files.catbox.moe/mdqni0.mp4
>>32668942>>32669013>>32669038
>>32668993>I just have her on the background and all I hear are screams of agonyisn't that every koyori stream
>>32669064>>32668942
>>32668903I think Mori just likes these kinds of games. I mean one of her debut month games was a fucking RPG maker game
Sora is not sexy!
>>32669008A new emergency EN gen with four hags in it that live in proximity to other EN allowing them to visit them frequently and groom them upAt least one of them should already have grooming experienceIt worked for JP so it should work for EN too
Can NijiEN ever recover?
>>32668915Hire ESLs for ID4
>>32669121>>32668942
>>32669008Wave 7 will save holoen
>>32669106No she also brings very informative news in appropriate attire
>>32669008
>>32668942pink pekora is inclining
>>32668881She streams this shit to relaxShe's a retarded workaholic that's spread herself thin between hololive, additional UMG duties, and roommate crap
>>32669173>>32668942
https://youtu.be/ux6zXguiqxMTOMORROW'S GOLD CONTENDER
>>32669103>>32669038>>32668942
>>32669195>She streams this shit to relaxAme is smart and is taking he "Cull of the Lamb" to twitch, at least she can make some passive shekels there
>>32669230holyshit
>>32669230Wonder if its the new iphone or that apple gaming laptop rumor
>>32669217>>32668942
>>32669230400k waiting. its over
>>32669038sure thing ankimo i'll keep it tasteful don't worry
>>32669230>497,447 waiting >Chat stiller than a stonebots
APPLE GOLD IKZ
>>32668781I don't really like them, but I agree.
>>32669221>>32668942
>>32669249>>32668942
>>32669272>>32668942
>>32669230apple is honorary niji
APPLE 600K WAITING
>>32669297>>32668942
>>32669268>SeptemberIt's an iPhone. Maybe a watch as well
>>32668520最近サロメの存在はTwitterで知ったけど、実際に動画見たら一瞬でハマってしまったわゲーム実況なんかは見てる人が分かりやすく楽しめるようなプレイを徹底してて、盛り上げようとする心遣いみたいなのが本当に印象的全盛期のネット王者の加藤純一を見てるみたいで自然と涙が出てきたサロメはまさに俺があの頃に求めてた【本物の配信者】だった
>>32669230500k for a SAME phone.
>>32669230Android could NEVER
Is this apple vtuber like the annoying orange?
Move over pipsqueaks
>>32669142NijiEN is beating HoloEN in every possible metric these days. They don't need to be saved.
>>32668942>>32669325
Im lazy to go laptop section so im gonna ask here.whats best rtx 3050 laptop? i need to buy asap
>>32669230>Stream>Subs??????????????
>>32669230Aki gold
>>32669344>>32668942
>>32667183can't wait for daph to call mainland sisters cum guzzling whores
>>32668942>>32669320
>>32669369scroll up
>>32669388I think it's only proper to give it to akiapple is an honorary rosetai
>>32669373>>32668942
>>32669389>>32668942
>>32669392>>32668942
>>32669379the one that has the highest number in price tag
>>32669371Their supposed top performers are crying about number while holoEN just do whatever so I kinda doubt that.
If Tim Cook appears in memoji form does he count as a vtuber
>>32669379this isnt /g/ anon...
>>32669448HoloEN is failing because they don't care about numbers.
>>32669426>>32668942
>>32669336>>32669352I just realize how accurate this sound. Apple is literally selling the brand and is specialized in hyping shit up, just like Niji
>>32669437>>32668942
>>32669447>>32668942
>1,1M watching
>>32669473But they're a company with a much smaller number of products that are individually far more popular but have a lower overall marketshare, just like Cover
>>32669230>1.1 million watchingHolokeks, how can we even compete
>>32668942>>32669472
>>32669473And thats why real nijifans praise anycolor while fake ones bash them. Reeal fans know that the company will incline by following apples model
>>32668375>Gura gets some bagel monstrosity that has nothing to do with her>Ame gets a well designed pancake with actual theming>Gura gets her default poses cheaply printed onto a mug with word art of her name like a crappy Etsy knockoff>Ame gets a tastefully designed cup with a silhouette and the Myth logoWhy do the Gooks hate Gura so much?
>>32669230https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydje1ivynIMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmU29KpjoMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD7-O10DaBghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omwzi7Jp4Yc
>>32669494S-STOP THE COUNT!!!!
>>32669524>>32668942
>>32669534Another one for the collection.
>>32669531But general public like Android more
>>32669468OK, so those who care about numbers will incline? Then why are the 2 Luxiem needs to cry about their number then? They care = incline = no need to cry about number????
>>32669518I mean, holo got 500k beforeGive it time, or CCV count on 4th fes
>>32669562Maybe in SEA, but not burgerland
Reminder while people are posting off-topic seething about fruit company that both Cover and Anycolor rely on the iPhone to exist
>>32669534>>32669557>nothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE
>>32669531Newfag detected.>niji fans hate management but love the livers
>>32669533Gura is becoming honorary HoloJp. Gura had no input in any of this since that would mean she would have to interact with Koreans.
>>32669533It's like with her rigging, people know she'll get numbers how ever low effort the shit is.
>>32669447>>32669274>>32669249>>32669221>>32669045>That male that Sora is getting nude for or sometimes appears in these pics. Yeah, me.
>>32669609those are the minority, the majority love and support the company since they know once the company fails everyone also fails and most of those in the minority are ex cover fags who were mad at cover management and switched to nijisaji
>6 minutes in>1.7M watching, still growing too
>>32669683>male
>>32669610one of her regular whales is korean though
>counter is updating once a minute>everytime it updates it adds over 100khow can chuubas even compete
>>32669371Are any of those metrics numerical? Because Kiara had 21k yesterday...
>>32669714Reminder that these are actual numbers for stuff that is mainstreamanything below 1m is a niche
>>32669714keep going haatofag, i find your pics amusing
>2M watching Appleshit at 1PM EST/10AM PST on a wednesdayCrazy how HoloEN struggle to break 10k at this time of the day.
>>32669262doesn't that game also have actual twitch integration? it makes sense to stream it over there rather than on youtube.
vtuber bros... where's our 2m ccv stream...
>>32669799thanks anon
>>32669773Imagine they handed the preview to a holo who actually does numbers.
>>32669817Yes it does
First time watching an Apple commercial. Damm! Shit IS soulless. Like an AI directed and wrote this shit.
vtubing is just a drop in the youtube well.......
>>32669714>rarity buffLet's see hours watched
>2 million
>>32669848peko graduation will get 2m
So does this mean the EU audience is real? Or is it just consoomers on lunch break?
>ovulation trackeri am buying one of these for every single holohag
Chloe gets more super chats tho
>>32669848The entire company graduates?
>>32667354They have never announced a new Hololive gen at some event stream why do people keep expecting that? Not to mention announcing EN3 on the JP channel in a JP only stream makes no sense.They will either just drop the announcement on twitter out of nowhere or they'll do some cryptic teaser bullshit on the Hololive English channel again and post it on R*ddit.
Koshienbros…
>>32669911it's the whole world watching the Apple stream, from Anchorage to Tokyo
what is our purpose here bros? fighting over 10 or 20 or even 100ks when stuff like this mog us to the moon and back, I feel silly celebrating 10ks now....
>>32669935mogged by a fruit.... how will nijiniggers recover...
>>32669951>tfw no 7-view chuuba
APPLE HAS SO MUCH SOVL
>>32669918For the record, it works. Both to avoid pregnancies and to be fulfill Abe’s last wish too.
>>32669917Man, imagine being so desperate for money that Apple needs to do SC reading, must be a huge fall from grace if true. /s just in case.
>>32669906I wonder how would Pekora handle her graduate, she seem like the type to goes out with a bang so I expect even more events leading to her graduation than Coco
>>32669961But anon. Apple is nijiniggers.
tim apple is too strong...
>>32669448>>32669773Why respond to obvious bait?
>>32669886>1 million hours watchedanon I...
>>32669995>he doesn't know about the BF yabapplecucks...
>>32670034I hope Yagoo will be as cool as Tim one day
I know we like to laugh at Nijiniggers but I kind of agree with them when they say HoloEN has been loosing viewers and it doesn't show any signs of stopping and all of this is caused by HoloEN themselves both the management and the talents. Like look at their current rosterMythMori fell offKiara fell offAme fell offGura is barely survivingIna is same as before3/5 are dead in watersCouncilSana goneKronii getting attacked by her own fansFauna is doing fineMumei is doing fineDon't know what to say about bae.IrysShe is just kinda there
>>32669918shit is accurate me and my partner use it
Will HoloEN ever be able to increase its hardcapped 35k box? The way things are going, a new gen might drag everyone in the branch down to the 2-3k level.
>>32669941>entire presentation in English with English subtitles>1pm ESTUh huh, that Japanese audience who can totally understand what they're saying and the text on screen stayed up till 2AM to watch some Apple conference live.
>32670067>i know we like to laugh>wenope.
>>32670057stop bringing it up, it's water under the bridge now anon
>loosing
>>32670094learn programming.
>>32670067HoloEN is finished. I don't know why we even talk about them in this thread any more. They should be forced into a lower tally along with the other small EN corpos.
>>32670067If next big even they dont use Gura or any of the EN as a spotlight or on a pedestal then I will believe this shit. Back in 2021, Gura has crap number like 8k Dead Space and 10k MonHun and they still chose her.
>Thread is chill and shitposting about Apple during dead hours>niji bait out of nowhere
>>32669773That's one time thing and she will be back to 2-3k after Holocure
>>32670095>Japanese audience who can totally understand what they're sayingAnon my sister who barely speaks and understands english is watching the stream at 2:18 am
where did this retarded bait come from, we were talking about apple just a second ago, how did this happen?
I can't believe my wife is winning
I will not buy your watch Tim
>>32670159>>32670191niji hates it when anything other than niji gets the mindshare
>>32670217Beni is pure sex
sexhavers OUT
when will player 3 finally enter the game?
>>32670217honorary niji
So is HoloEN actually reclining or not?
So are the baits in this thread actually reclining or not?
>>32670301Reclining hard. When was the last time they had a 50k+ stream that wasn't a graduation or other special event?
>>32670301they are not learning programming, so, I would say so.
>>32670330it's not like they were ever good
>>32670286define what having sex really means
>>32670300wrong way rounda few niji are honorary vspo
>>32670067Switch Ina and Kiara and put irys as a nobody and this is accurate.
>>32670190Is this alleged ESL Japanese timezone sister of yours in the room with us now?
So is Android actually reclining or not?
>>32670330reclining in quality the more we go into eu primetime but theres usually a sweet spot when eu goes to sleep and sea is still asleep
>>32670067i've stopped being invested in them as much since they barely have any projects despite barely streaming. you have many holojp talents that are able to do reps/projects and stream a lot compared to holoen talents. it's the same as laplus, aqua, and ayame; coasting through hololive. im not gonna anti them, but im not gonna care if anything good or bad happens to them
>>32670363>still dominates the marketno
>>32670238You can make excuses and run off to apple shitposting but HoloEN reclining is visible in broad day light while NijiEN has managed to increase it's audience pool
>>32670399this is why you should watch nijiEN instead. they always have something fun in the pipeline and their chemistry is top-notch.
why are applekeks like this? android actually rent free
>>32670439What's in the pipelie for NijiEN right now?
>>32670439no.
>>32670439>chemistryAre we starting this shit up again?
>>32670439
>>32670439>watch Ni...no
>>32670439i'm switching to tempus, some JP girls, and nijiEN lately. Getting absolutely sick and tired of minecraft/rust spam.
>>32670439I'd rather kill myself
>>32670439Is deleting the server part of the pipeline?
>>32670428Nijisanji EN is growing at an almost unhead of rate right now. Enna alone is inclining by around 3k CCVs every single month right now.
>>32670428Why do 2 of their talents cry about numbers anyway if their number is increasing?
sisters have been on overtime for 3 days since Vox numberfaggotry spilled
>>32670363Lmao only time I use android is to play random obscure Japanese gachas
Hololive is honorary AppleThey literally need iPhones to stream as Holos because it doesn't work on other phones
>>32668839fucking retard nijisister...neck yourself
>>32670358anon korea is in jst timezone and she is using the family pc in the hallway
>>32667354Tempus was announced only a week before debut anon.HoloX and ID3 only had about 24 hours warning.It's coming in October, the announcement will be a month from now.
Plus a mystery stream at 9 JST on Friday
>>32670575you need an iphone to exist in japanese society
>>32670439No
>>32667554
>>32670575No fucking shit they build their program based on iPhone face tracking features
>>32668942>6 nijiHololive reclining
>>32670602EN3 will never happen. HoloEN has reclined to the point where it wouldn't make financial sense for Cover. The HoloEN box is tiny and everyone else would rather watch nijisanji instead.
>>32670575nijiapp is the same iirc
>>32670399This. HoloEN 's clear lack of direction as a group is killing them off. They are too self conscious to go idol route thanks to Mori for being a shithead and they don't have any idea
>nijisister is a flip call center wage cucknahone
>>32667853or, y'know, don't troll on accounts that have your information and just do it on random basketweaving forums
>>32670602EN3 November
>>32670609Did she use this picture not knowing the continuation of it?
>>32670700see >>32670652
Lol this is what you holofags get for making fake discord photos in order to make nijisanji look bad. Now nijifans are in your precious holo hugbox in order to stop the lies you people are producing
>>32668454>>32668597The line wrapped around the entire fucking floor btw.
>>32670709whats the continuation?
>>32670566None of them are crying it's just a rrat spread by this thread
>>32670758>holofags living in the pastmany such cases
Tempiss killed HoloEn unity and there is no one else to blame except En management
https://youtu.be/Wj1X99yEG_I?t=451Is he right?
>>32670763Hentai, she getting railed by her master.
>>32670807Hopefully Twitch kills Twitch.
>>32670559Enna is indeed inclining and she is yet to reach her peak while HoloEN has already hit their peak and it's only downhill from here
>>32670559
>>32670652Dont you get tired of spamming this?
>>32670744meds, retard.
>>32670709She linked it describing it as spicy and has admitted to looking at porn of herself on pixiv
>>32670794this but unironically
>>32670758I just check this video on YouTube and there is a Japanese in comment section complain and ask why niji has kr branch but it is not as popular as hololive in Korea kek.
I can't wait for Vox's return minecra stream to get cripple gold and huge numbers!
please watch pizza papa's stream...
>>32670955>watching chink contents
>>32670928OK, no idea if she said "spicy" as in the art or the hentai itself after that.
>>32670807Yes but we have websites that give pretty graphs for CCV and no one’s willing to do a daily tally to make a VoD horse race so CCV is what we get
>>32670675i honestly have no idea what they could be doing when they're not streaming. gura says idol reps, but she hasn't had a public karaoke in how long. sure her members stream had one, but it was half zatsu half karaoke. ame i literally have no idea what her goals are as a vtuber, just being a 3d studio that people can fly into? might as well just go into management at that point and be EN achan/nodoka. ina i understand RM shit and finally moving out debuff, but apparently she had a members only slay the spire stream, what the fuck why.kiara/calli i do not watch and will not watch.mumei/fauna are fine, but godamn did mumei's practice session almost filter me, and she needs to stop being so godamn perfectionist/autistic and just sing. who fucking cares if you miss several pitches, 90% of the audience wont notice or care.kronii/bae i dont care about.
How to save holoEN:FUCKING DO SOMETHING YOU MORONS HOLY SHIT 0 FUCKING PROJECTS FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE FOREVER
>>32670709Moris design is pure sex but it's impossible to get turned on knowing her voice and personality.
>>32670951at least post screenshots if you wanna start rrats
>>32671013Projects such as?
>>32670217>2 people on 1 pov>watching a huge event
Gura's thumbnail game is too strong. I see a year old video and even if I watched it I get this urge to watch it again coz the thumbnail looks so interesting.She knew what she was doing from the start
>>32671009>calliNijinigger begone
~400 waiting for NijiEN MC server status
>>32670238This is literally true though. Earlier unicorns were fighting homobeggars and some niji was desperately shouting in the void>FUNGUS 9K>FUNGUS COMING FOR YOU HOLOKEKS>FUNGUS CRIPPLE GOLD>FUCK'S SAKE PAY ATTENTION TO MY POSTS
>>32671058Homosexual detected
Seeing some of these haachama images reminds me of the early myth days where she used to collab with them... Good times, really good times... Good numbers too
>>32671009>perfectionist/autistic and just singits a practice session, not a karaoke.
>>32671142Rumao the last part is funny
Are the samsung watches any good?
>>32671193No idea, any good Sora lewds?
>>32671193smartwatch? nosmartwatch is a meme
>>32670067> I know we like to laugh at Nijiniggers>>32670439> this is why you should watch nijiENevery time
>>32670807>>32670989that and vods are useless since https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1AGnREfHt0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlmmxPSPI38 exists
>>32671086>>32670217Oh sorry I was wrong. This stream is 4 people watching and showing a huge event, not 2.
>>32671193Smart watches are a scam, you don't need them most of the time. What ever functions they put in there is already available on your phone.
>>32671221https://twitter.com/Wataaamage/status/1567482948907147264
what's up number losers
>>32670609>Myth collab at 6PM EST / 3PM PSTFuck Kiara from preventing them to stream the collab during primetime.
What inspires someone to come in this thread and samefag for hours about how hololive are doomed while people post actual numbers showing the opposite
>>32671254He said good
>>32671273The fact that retards give anyone attention.
>>32670652HoloEN reclined? Actually a FactHoloEN box is Tiny? It isn't, they just reclined because HoloEN are LazyEVERYONE Else would rather watch Nijisanji? Hahahhahah greatest lie i ever saw in my life!
>>32671273they need that good dopamine from getting (you)'s
Rate her /fa/, /#/.
>>32671273pic relatedhonestly im kinda regretting telling accel anon not to spam nijien
>>32671273HoloJP and HoloID doing great but HoloEN doing absolutely terrible by their previous year standard. They haven't been a able to expand their audience instead lost them to NijiEN and other vtubers
>>32671171her title had "[singing] a weird singing practice" so i'll concede 50/50 on that. even in her past karaoke streams, how many times did she restart/just stop singing straight out? or just started babbling and doing goofy voices singing when she didn't hit that perfect pitch? im membered to her, but i just want to hear her have a consistent karaoke stream. i think her best recent one was the pre sana graduation announcement one
>mysta streaming on a twitch alt for the second time this weekHe's going to be the first to graduate from nijiEN guaranteed
>>32671109sorry i don't care enough about her to call her by her correct pronouns
>>32670807Youtube needs to do one thing and it'll get virtually everyone to switch over: implement a youtube vid watchalong feature.All the need to do is make it so the streamer can embed another vid into their stream so that the audience could watch it with them.The original video would get views from the stream audience, and it wouldnt trigger any DMCA shit on their stream.With how big react streaming is, itd be huge.
>>32670439Never! I will Never watch any Niji streamers in my life.
>>32671371Honestly this, its the reason why you see nijien getting 10k easily while holoen has to struggle just to get 3k
>>32671386Wait he has an alt for his twitch already?
>>32671384i think she'll improve on that with time. She's already been getting better at actually finishing songs in recent karaokes and i also think the autistic noises are part of her charm.
>>32671427That's actually a very good idea, meaning youtube WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER IMPLEMENT IT EVER
>>32671347Who is this and what does it have to do with vtubers?
>>32671461I'm saying "twitch alt" but it's basically a roommate account, but since it's new I wouldn't call it that either
>>32671062That is not a rrat though?
>>32671427>>32671490yt actually toyed with that idea pre-2015 (i remember someone talking about it in the yt reddit way back in 2014) but after the adpocalypse of 2017 they abandoned the idea since ad companies didnt like it
>>32671371I find it fuking baffling that none of them seem to be concerned (Mori and Kiara, may be). You got Lamy used to be worried about themselves, and Koyori getting sad not getting her sub goal in time but none of the EN ever express anything remotely close to that. They either are comfortable with the status quo or they know something average people dont. Everyone is worried about their performance but they are just nonchalant about it, so weird.
>>32671469oh she definitely has started finishing more songs. I honestly thought she would not finish 3 songs yesterday, and instead just be the same babbling, but she managed to do it. it just circles around to wasted potential (laplus/aqua/ayame), you can see the greatness they can do, but for some reason or another they dont
>>32670609>RustAt least the retard is trying
>almost 3mStill not peak. Will probably peak when 14 Pro comes out.
>>32669981
>>32670758Power of Hololive.
>>32671459Everyone in HoloEN except for Gura struggles to hit 10k while NijiEN maybe behind now but their numbers are much better than 2021. Enna managed to be incline upto 3k-4k from 3digits while at the same time Mori went down to 5k from her 8-10k in 2021.
>>32671556OCR'd and translated
>>32671585Its the culture in en, the ones that dont care know that putting all your chips in streaming is a doomed strat since theyve seen with what happened to people who focused on it instead of diversifying early like rwj
>>32671359NijiEN is currently doing /hlgg/ style fanbase war timeloops and talking about someone streaming on their rm ala Mori/Laplus. It's probably just the usual discords or trolls we get daily.
3000K GETTO
>stream reaches 3M for iphone>thread already bored
>>32671772Yeah thats what im saying at this rate NijiEN is gonna beat HoloEN by october or november
>>32670019She's was open about it after her return when people joked about it. She would fade away.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA2CwVMQkkU&t=147s
>>32671772>NijiEN maybe behind now but their numbers are much better than 2021.yeah but sadly a lot of them peaked at may/june and is now reclining slowly
>>32671871unless
btw, with the recent slowdown by both of them (Kobo and Salome)1) Neither will reach 2M anytime soon, with Gura keeping her time to 2M record intact2) Kobo is now projected to catch up to Salome mid November, as opposed to Mid September as it was predicted last month
>>3267109690% of her thumbnails are just fanart over the game title anon.Not all of them are funny like the bigfoot one.
>>32671822Yeah, but do they talk about alternatives ever? Many of those who graduates (not necessarily in Hololive) move right back to streaming. Where do they intend to go if not streaming anyway?
>>32671585The first wave sets the company culture for the rest of the branch. Instead of numberfags like Miko and Suisei, almost the entirety of Myth doesn't care about numbers. Maybe Mori cares about her song numbers and that's it.
>>32671371You didn't answer my question, you just started samefagging about hololive being doomed again
>>32671772I know it would be too much work but I would be interested in a nijiEN timeline graph filtered to just solo streams that exclude milestone celebrations.
>>32671862because itoddlers suck
How high will Pomu's numbers go thanks to this minecraft drama?
>>32670807Yes, at the end of the day the only thing that matters is $$$. You could have 1,000 CCV and get paid 10M by YouTube and you'll still be more successful than the 10,000 ccv streamers who makes 250k a year from SC, merch, and ad sense money from a corpo.
>>32671954Mori and Ame have something to fallback to other than streaming as a vtuber if they graduate I think chicken wants to be an idol so hololive might be her stepping stone. Ina can just go back to art shit and Gura is the one with the least worries if she quits.
>>32670951>niji has kr branchNot anymore. Those gooks are toast.
>>326718503 million people in Youtube's shitty livestreaming platform. Any chance anyone will be able to get a minor funnel from tourists realizing youtube does livestreams?
>>32672010How the hell do you get paid 10m by YT if you have dogshit viewership?
>>32672002Not many people are aware of it yet so probably not very
>>32672002Will it a jk finana did have backups situation?
>>32668942Yashiro doing his solo Koshien is interesting
>>32670807Here something from several months agoInteresting info relating to numbers on Twitch. The following information is from a popular YouTuber named Spiffing Britt. This information was obtained through research, being Twitch Partner himself, anecdotes from other Twitch Streamers, and paying off Twitch employees for information. He did not sign an NDA for any of this.Source https://youtu.be/1uzX4ZQvl-kAround 2 hour mark.>Discoverability is top-heavy and utterly abysmal on Twitch. The system is geared to boost only the top streamers, and everyone else is at a severe disadvantage. Spiff cites Twitch's horrible VOD system and (lack of) good recommedations as the key factors.>Youtube gives way more tools to streamers to promote their stuff. Between thumbnails, scheduled streams, stream trailers and premieres, you are ahead before you ever begin a stream. Analytics indicate all of this really matters: there is a significant viewership boost associated with all of these.>VODs. VODs, VODs, VODs. According to Spiff and a number of his acquantances, Stream VODs are some of his best-earning videos, in spite of being less popular on paper. Furthermore, they help prevent burnout, as they pay the streamer even while they're not actively streaming. In contrasts, the Twitch vod system is finicky, not promoted at all, and is a victim of the aforementioned ad system.>Ads suck. Not only is the system ruthlessly aggressive, but it's not even efficient for advertisers. Apparently, companies are not getting the kind of conversion ratios that YouTube provides, which explains the repetitive advertising on the website.>Twitch subs don't pay well, especially after the introduction of regional sub pricing. It was a success in terms of raw numbers, but has lowered payouts for the average streamer. Thanks to currency conversion shenanigans and some quirks of Amazon's cuts, it takes an average of eight hundred concurrent subs just to hit UK minimum wage. In contrast, YouTube does cover currency transaction costs. Furthermore, the aforementioned discoverability issues mean that maintaining subs is hellish. A break of a week or two can drop subs by as much as thirty percent, more so for less established streamers, while YouTube's data apparently indicates that this drop is far less steep for that platform's streamers. It has gotten to the point that getting intentionally banned might be the best way to go on holiday as a Twitch streamer: between the press and the boost you get from the return stream, you might actually be able not to lose a signficant part of your sub income.>Superchats versus Bits: Youtube takes 30% out of every superchat and, again, covers any currency conversion fees. Twitch, in contrast, takes 40%, and still doesn't cover currency conversion, which takes a significant chunk of low-Bit donations.>In spite of all of this, Twitch is actively bleeding money. According to Spiff's sources, a hour of anyone streaming costs Twitch up to $55 at a baseline and the revenue is not close to justifying these costs. The aggressive ads do little to fix this: companies are not seeing the same impressions on Twitch as on Youtube, and as a result, CPM ratios are abysmal. Apparently, Spiff is getting 15-20$ for a thousand ad views on YouTube, compared to getting less than a dollar per a thousand viewers for Twitch's far more aggressive ads.>The management seems to be in an abysmal state. In response to the unprofitability, Twitch management seems to have only doubled down on bad decisions. They've cut useful community liason positions, and apparently, there are rumours of a gacha mechanic for emotes, including, believe it or not, Koopy-based emotes? The bad tech koopys, not the questionably delicious sandwich koopys. Spiff relates an anecdote of Twitch highlighting a Brazil based streamer who runs ten minutes of ads each hour as what they consider an ideal streamer.
>>32670807>Ludwig agrees that VOD views > avg ccv for success Welp, pack it in Holodrones. The man himself agrees with us.
>>32672066No because Youtube's actual livestreaming portal is worse than using the default search bar and using the live filter.
>>32672093Be big on twitch get bought then ur audience doesnt move over
>>32672043Damn, so they are so content already and can just leave their fanbase to eat shit if they want to.
>>32670784I always enjoy seeing you seething
>>32671971>The first wave sets the company cultureSo what youre saying is that she is to blame for HoloEN being anti numbers?
>>32671871>Yeah thats what im saying at this rate NijiEN is gonna beat HoloEN by october or novemberkek, her is from almost one year ago>>15009598 >VShojo's probably going to beat HoloEN since they're collabbing with bigger twitch streamers tho. >They shouldn't bother with vtuber models imo, they can do fine as traditional streamers. >I feel the same for Ollie from HoloID and Selen from NijiEN. Mike Tyson put it best when he said "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face", getting to 70% of debuffed HoloEN, 80% of debuffed HoloEN is easy but bridging that gap is hard as fuck.NijiEN right now is being outranked (in aggregate) by HoloID, they have ZERO chance to catch up to HoloEN in the near term
>>32672093To get a oneup on twitch. Youtube has just acquired fuslie who would be 2nd to pokimane on twitch to brand/advertiser friendliness
>>32672093Clout, potential, connections. Just look at LilyPichu, she averages like 2k CCV and gets paid millions because of OTV and her work with popular games made by Riot.
>>32672117Nui yesterday likewise, same sort of numbers. Underwhelming, to say the least
>>32672156I mean Yagoo said in an early interview that he wants hololive to be a stepping stone for the talents so thats why you see people like ayame, aqua, shion, korone, choco, mel etc who dont care about numbers since they have shit that they can fall back on
>no sim card trey>eSimwhat?
>>32671871See you in November where you go>Elvira got 10k with 17 people in Voice Chat NijiEN Inclining HoloEN RECLINING
>>32668206late response but that is wrong, roommate has 5 since lap debut and lap has 7(8 with membership cover and 9 if original counts)
>>32672156Also if youve noticed the most of the numberfags in hololive are those talents who have no other talent besides streaming
>>32672156Ame at least does some out of the box stream ideas every now and then
>>32671971So it’s Haachamas fault then
https://youtu.be/DRQndTXecnYTime to find out the state of the Server
>>32672242instead of a physical sim card, you have a digital one now
Watching the interview and hearing them mention holostars as a "tap into the market of female fans" sounds weird
>>32672093Soft power is a whole different beast when it comes to streamersIshowspeed might have bigger ccv numbers than Sykunno but Sykunno has way more soft power than him
Imagine how much bigger HoloEN would have been if Gura integrated herself into the OTV circle when she had a chance. Cover fucked up so bad.
Reminder that Enna can go toe-to-toe against almost every HoloEN now and she's only a few months away from BTFOing the shark. Enna's median is growing by 3k per month and HoloEN is stagnating at best.
>>326723311K DORYAAAAA
>>32672286Not a bad thing, at least they care to provide their fanbase with contents instead of leaving their fanbase to scrap dirt. HoloEN culture makes it feel like they just stream for job sake instead of actually loving it.
>>32671556>>32671776seems like a confused nijifan
>>32671371>>32670399>>32672043It cause holo en has several projects in the work they just don't talk about them. Gura has big brain academy. Ame is cooking some fancy stuff up, mori has a ablum, kiara is working on a ep or ablum and is doing holotalk. Ina mention being busy due to project deadline. Irys is doing something with the sheep and council are all inclining streaming wise with all sorts of projects they yet to mention. Holo en is at it strongest it been since the big boom.People here forget holo en only has ten members that it they are all busy so of course their going to have less projects than jp who has over 30 and adding more.
>>32672286finally someone who understands
>>32672156Who do you think is paying for the tickets to shows?
>>32672375not just holoen culture but hololive culture in general see >>32672237A ton of holojp also have this mindset
> rip off the bandaidgg
yeeeah... I'll stick to my samsung android that i can pirate movies and music from.
I have to ask. How many sisters are here right now. Ive seen the same points repeated like 4 or 5 times a few times in this very thread despite ne replies or blatant self replies.
Oh no, already begging not to hate Luca
> Please do not direct any sort of hateOH HE FUCKED UPHOW MUCH WAS LOST POMU !?
>>32672461There is so much pain in her laughter.
>>32672237He might have said that but every single one of the ones you mentioned did their reps and improved massively from their early days, both as streamers and SPECIALLY as performers, as you can see by their recent lives.For Myth, IMO, the only one which improved at least as much and has visible results to show is Calli.The other four are at the exact point they were in October 2020, great streamers but spinning their wheel in search of content.>>32672286>most of the numberfags in hololive are those talents who have no other talent besides streamingCounterpoint: Suisei
>>32672375>HoloEN culture makes it feel like they just stream for job sakeQuite the opposite actually since if they were streaming for the job sake then they would be like pekora or koyori. Their retarded streaming tactic is unironically their love for their streams which is why retards like mori, ame or kiara dont care about being numberfags or ccv since they thinkg that What they think is good>What makes a good stream
>>32672125Twitch will limp on despite Youtube's growing relevance due to the following:- Browsing live streams on Youtube sucks ass, using the standard Youtube UI design does not work here and never will. Both the Live and Gaming directories are organised in a god awful way that repels users and makes finding specific content near impossible. Those directories are also shoved to the sidebar where they will wither away and die because user attention is immediatly overwhelmed by the front page recommendations taking up 90% of the screen.- Chat sucks, completely unoptimised, leaving it open puts a bigger strain on your system than rendering 4k videoBrowsing streams and participating through chat are the two most critical user experiences and Youtube blows at both.
>>32672388>holoEN>projectslmao
Yeah it's all gone.roru.
The Niji minecraft server survived by the way.
>>32672555>He might have said that but every single one of the ones you mentioned did their reps and improved massively from their early days, both as streamers and SPECIALLY as performersI mean they can since they have the access to the jap studios while en gets ziltch since they are located in different countries
>>32672499>>32672506I'll search the archives to see if it was one of the NIjiEN lads that badmouthed Watamage, I distinctly recall it being
>>32672621KEK
>>32672555>Counterpoint: SuiseiCounterpoint: Pekora and Koyori
So the server is fine. Meh.
>>32672621>>32672629Who do I believe
>>32672639>since they have the access to the jap studiosCounterpoint to that: HoloID gen 1. Anon mentioned and I'll concede: Moona had previous experience (Kiara level or higher) but even then she clearly did her reps, Risu clearly did her reps and they pretty much stole the show in this years Holofes having the same resource as HoloEN had or even less
>>32672746Server is ok but theres a rollback it seems since its a backup copy
>>32672746Check /NijiEN/ reactionAlso, there are Luca fans trying to convince people that it's nothingburger
>>32670807Ludwig is talking from the perspective of a mixed content creator. Holos are livestream oriented by choice, in contrast to early vtubers who uploaded edited videos. VODs may produce the most money, but that's not the point when holos have multiple revenue sources like actual salaries and merchandise sales.
>>32672591Here's the one thing that will kill Twitch though>They're bleeding money, and Amazon might just get sick of their shit before they can fix that issueIf Amazon pulls Twitch Prime, that's gg no re, stick a fork in er', she's done.
>>32672780So only a few things disappear or…?
Looks like some of it survived so not a complete wipe. Vox's castle survived so there's no yab potential anymore. Dragoons and pentomo will be mad but their fanbases are pussies and won't do anything.
> Vox's castle is goneWhy can't I stop laughing?Why am I like this?
I love how the nijisisters stopped the second the minecraft server was revealed.
>>32672779>having the same resource as HoloEN had or even lessActually no since they have the advantage of being in one country which makes them have access to an actual professional ID studio courtesy of reines connections im assuming and is planning to get a bigger one either in id or sg
>>32672712but pekora and koyori is pefect example for no other talent besides streaming anon
>>32672876>>32672881
>>32672779>ID with Reine>having the same resource as HoloENlol
>>32672555>suiseinot streaming often
The server is fine except for a certain area that basically got nuked and a new biome showed up on it. It's still a lot of builds gone but it could have been worse.
OH SHIT VOX'S CASTLE!!!
>>32672872What counts as a few things in your mind? 50 stream hours? 100? 200 combined offline and streamed work?
>>32672862I mean sure Youtube's streaming segment will grow if Amazon just deletes Twitch, but that growth will suffer from the issues I listed and could theoretically leave the door open for a new competitor to swoop in and catch the twitch refugees.
>>32672904thats what im saying, suisei being a numberfag even with a talent other than streaming doesnt change the fact that majority of the numberfags are people who have no talent beside streaming
>>32672964In the end only the girls got their stuff nukedSisters stay winning
>>32672872Reading /nijien/ thread, looks like it's really old backup. From like months ago,
>>32672964Seems like some of the farms are gone also from the looks of it
>Vox's castleLMAO
Apparently they were forced to choose between backups for some reason.Can anyone who actually watches them weigh in here?
>>32670047nta but I'll have to give it to them that not replying will only make retards think they are in good company here
>Vox's castle survived Goddammit I wanted a yab
>>32673043anon>>32672881Also if NijiEN is smart they could actually make this into an event where everyone tries to chip in and remake all the lost stuff
>>32672388The frustrating thing though is that it's mainly Calli and IRyS who obviously materialize their projects (music n shit, no judgement on quality) followed by...Ina? Offhand I feel like she's done more sponsored projects than the rest of Myth combined this year, plus covers, art gallery, UMISEA, etc. Goombus keeps hinting at things but little to nothing happens, I dunno if la creatividad is doing anything, and even Kiara's music output is way down (I guess flying to Korea's a project...?).
Luca CCPsisters currently policing (aka damage control) to prevent girls fans from sperging.
>>32673136wait NijiEN is saying it survived
>>32673139Kiara feels like she's doing outreach shit like that EU thing or that recent KR thing
>>32673136Boring
>>32673122The backup is from MayIt's already a yab
>>32672881>>32672977It's still there
Apparently their last backup was from May.About 4 months of work, not too bad I'd say.
>>32673136Vox's castle survived, dunno why youre linking me to that post
Why tf there is one fag doomposting about holoEN when>most of them doing debuff stream most of the time>and when they don't, their numbers returns (see streams, holocure, PvZ)??? not sure doomposting here would get something out of it other than astrosurfing.
>>32673186Yeah i take that back since its the april/may backup
>>32673202>Losing few months of progressI really feel bad for Pomu...
>>32673186Damage controlLook at how quiet the thread is now compared to 5 minutes ago
>>32673071Last backup was from May
Come to Hololive server, Pomu.
>Tempus stabilized at around 3500 median>iLuna stabilized at around 2500 median Both failures like Noctyx, goddamn I want Luxiem/Myth2. EN3 better deliver.
>>32673235>>32673244
>Aia's house is goneI promise I'm not gonna post her 3views for a week
>>32672388i don't doubt holoEN's strength, chart anon shows that they're fine compared to their competitors. i'm doubting if they're actually putting in effort in hololive or have any projects they're working on. yes the holojp has over triple holoen members, but their probable workload consists of singing and dancing reps, sponsorships, and actually streaming. ignore the streaming part for my cursed oshi progressions (ayame > aqua > shion > iroha)Gura big brain academy is a good step, but with that amount of scuff, the actual stream didnt feel that prepared compared to the supposed amount of time preparing for it.ame's fancy stuff could be something hype for their myth anniversary, but im personally not expecting anything just so i cant be disappointed.ina i already concede with roommate stuff and moving out for the first time debuff, but i cant think of any projects she did outside of her 3d museum, which while great, she was probably very hands off as she just needed to give them the images and say how she wanted it.kiara/mori i am filtered from and do not follow what they do.mumei/fauna are fine, kronii/bae i dont care about/are wasted potential, and irys is busy being vsinger. yet before irys fucked up her throat cause of singing/streaming, she was up there in streaming hours.
>All of that 3 months of hardworkingWell could have been worse, also Vox's castle still intact so he won't have another menhera freakout.
>>32673202No, this is not the backup world
>>32673248I don't. ALL OUT WAR etc.
>>32672893>access to an actual professional ID studioYou are focusing in the technical aspect of broadcasting their 3D model from their country to Japan. That, as Ame proved, is the "easy" part.The hard part is the song and dance lessons, the excruciating practice routine to get it absolutely perfect.That is the part where I believe the JP girls put the most reps, Moona put lots of reps, Risu put some reps but, on the HoloEN side, as proven by that infamous "Kiara teachs idol moves" stream by Kiara, in which the other girls were at "Marine 2020" tier of coordination.Same thing for singing, except for Calli which clearly improved I think not a single of the other Myth girls are better now than they were in Oct 2020, and I also don't think they care about being (except for Gura, which clearly cares).There is no particular problem with that but the fact they're not (IMO) improving separates them from the ones mentioned in that post. Choco improved, Mel improved, Korone massively improved, all of them did.I'll give Gura one thing here: that last variety stream of hers (the one that OBS crashed) was GENIUS and a massive improvement in style and form for her usual content.That was a step up not only for herself but for the whole branch and it is a pity OBS couldn't handle it. That's the exact type of improvement that is needed to elevate the branch
>>32673301kek
> a lot of other livers' buildings gone> Luca's buildings survivedI can't... stop... laughing...
>>32673292kill yourself.
>yfw this whole "accidental deletion" thing is just them trying to slowly scrub out any evidence of Iluna in the server since they want to put them in an isolation zone
>>32673310>3 months of hardworkingYou called 3 months work is hardworking???Are you holokeks trying to falseflaging and adding fuel?????
Western vtubing is just pretty dead.Luxiem is reclining hard.Myth is reclining hard.Council is stable.All the other nijiEN gens are dead.Indies are dead.There's no gen that really stands out
>Niji boy creations somehow survived.Truly manjisanji, i kneel sisters...
>>32673319>That, as Ame proved, is the "easy" part.comparing that scuff shit they did to holofes only proves that its not as easy as it seems
>>32673139>and even Kiara's music output is way downDreaming Chuchu, Cinderella, Orange with nenechi, Fever Night, newton dance with Koyori, Animal with ReineIt all flopped, but she did do those. Also Kiara did much more promotional works than Ina this year, if you account for con presence. (And even if you just count promotional stream)
>>32673407Stip using girls to attack luca you fucking holofag
Y'know... this is actually an opportunity for kino.Remember how FFXIV's first iteration was so bad they literally nuked it IN-LORE for the revamp?This could be a REALLY good way to start a story for them for once.Assuming they don't get demotivated and stop playing MC of course...
>>32673292I beleb
>>32673341>Luca's buildings survivedTOP KEK
>>32673319>the HoloEN side, as proven by that infamous "Kiara teachs idol moves" stream by Kiara, in which the other girls were at "Marine 2020" tier of coordination.oh you should try coordinating in VR chat with 300-500ms ping sometimes.
>>32673502Fuck you lucuckHe better spend the next week farming back materials for everyone especially my hubby Uki
>>32673507This would be kino if they get everyone in on it but since most of the managers are numberfags and mc isnt really a boost for them i doubt that management is gonna tell them to focus on it instead of doing the meta
>>32673391What? 3 months is definitely hard work considering how much people like Pomu put in offstream. Fuck off false flagging shithead.
>>32673576You didn't even watch niji so shut yhe fuck up holokek
>>32673391>>32673502kys roasties
> Current server only nuked a few choice things since Luca immediately reverted the server version when he realized> Last backup was May 2022> They decided to take the chunk damage to the server and not revert to May> So a lot of structures are now nuked by the generator, but it's less worse than having to go back to mayAm I getting this right?
So Iluna's stuff basically got thanossnapped out of the server?
>>32673319>You are focusing in the technical aspect of broadcasting their 3D model from their country to Japan. That, as Ame proved, is the "easy" partNo im actually focusing on the part where all myth members can do their reps digitally which is pretty hard considering your gonna be looking at 200 to 300 ping at best when trying to do it
>>32673248What are the chances that Kiara will offer herself to help her
>>32673238Their trying to make the incline of NijiEN sound better. Looking at actual numbers peek NijiEN was months ago when Luxiem was popping off with celebrations and events getting consistent 10k+ and 20k+ CCV for about a month or two. Currently they plateaued over the summer and stabilized to consistent 4 figure CCV with occasional 5 figures during special events. Council meanwhile have been on the rise with the exception of Kronii as Fauna and Mumei just last month had a median of 10k+ CCV (putting their average above Vox and Mysta) and Bae has been getting her shit together recently.
>>32673646Then stop adding fuel and give holokeks something to shitpost you fucking retard.It is fucking nothing.
https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1567545001500094472applechads won
>>32673665You don't watch Hololive either yet you your tribe have no shame attacking Hololivers
>>32673723Maria's and Kyo's are fine
>>32673497Newton Dance is actually approaching one millionAnd it's the only good release of the bunch.
>>32673761I mean after this big yab I wont be surprised if Niji announce a Graduation for Luca, think about the graduation stream numbers
>>32673507If I had a retard younger brother who wiped 20 hours of progress from my RPG save I'd smack him across the head and probably quit. That's this multiplied by however many EN livers were fully affected by the fuckup. You can't control how they'd react but it's an understandable emotion to either rage quit or seethe to the point of reducing stream quality in the rebuild arc
Council are doing fine.Kronii is reclining, sure, but fauna's incline makes up for it.Mumei has solidified herself in the past few months as #2 in holoEN.Bae isn't a burden anymore.Sana is gone.Unironically stronger gen ccv wise than both Luxiem and Myth rn.
>>32673665No you shut the fuck since you dont watch niji stupid falseflagging holokek
>>32673710More or less but they might encounter some problem or bugs by doing that especially if they are planning on making farms or contraptionsA server I played had the same experience and we had to revert back to 6 months before instead of restoring chunk damage since it somehow screwed up with mods
How about the sister fight in their own thread no?
>>32673896Yeah, they shouldve reverted back
>>32673886Are you afraid of Holofans or your own Luxiem fags that will now attack your precious Luca???
Holyshit these holokeks falseflaging and trying to use girls as their weapon to attack luca…
>>32673896Apparently a huge biome was created in their spawning area, which is what nuked everything.
>>32673761Fuck off, you're trying to downplay what a retarded move this was on the part of both Luca and Slutfish. They both deserve to get raked over the coals for their garbage handling of this, who the fuck doesn't keep weekly backups AT MINIMUM of something this important?!
>>32673761Nijisis your seething about not giving ammo is unironically giving people more ammo to shitpost with.
>>32673710they could had just worldedit away the damaged chunks and replace it with the ones on backup to "fix" it, or niji is also very autistic at allowing perms for mods in minecraft like Hololive?
>>32673940Yeah that would have been the safer choice but there might have been drama so I understand their decision>>32673975what biome is it? if its anything other than desert or swamp then it might be fine
>>32673968The latter.Clearly proper information must be passed to the relevant parties, we don't want a bunch of LIES now, do we?
>>32673974Fuck off Nijinigger you have been attacking Hololivers for months now. Luca did something stupid and it's your own tribe you should be worried about
>>32673935Is minor civil war between /b/omu fans and luca sisters right now on /nijiEN/, but sisters is winning sadly because they know niji girls fanbase are cowards.
>>32673832Actually agree I usually can't stand her chicken singing voice but it works with those high-pitched nayutalien songs.
> Selen's house is goneremember this moment Selenposter
Yubicraft is more competent than nijiEN Even the famous pipkin pippa visits every now and then
Doesn't look like it'll be better going from here in NijiEN. I pity Lazulight and obysidia. They didn't think their scouting team picked up some bozos for the branch.
>>32668942wtf kiara with 21k?!?!?!?! LEMAO
>>32674113Pomu fans have never liked Luca in the first place so nothing really changed.
>>32674113I mean if i were a nijifan id actually let the sisters win since they control the fate of nijien
>>32673896great, more fun then.