/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

who?

>>32600747
who!

>>32598092
i only recognize kson
are u sure you should make a thread besides a general for that obscure company? not every 2 view gets their own thread

>>32601374
The thread isn't specifically about vshojo.
Feel free to post about any other corpo or even indie vtuber.

>>32600916
She forgor the lore...

HEREEEEEEEEEEE 2
>>32556153
>We've never seen Watame respawn on stream
Luckily there's this instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzwUSWRASeI

And no, it's wasn't a joke she made up on the spot. It was a demonstration of the lore she created a mere 2 months after debut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mz1SUs1uMo

- At the end of the 1st Overcooked 2 collab with Botan, Botan eats her off-screen as the collab ends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBeOfCDX2D4

It was later confirmed by both Botan and Watame that it was something that canonically happened.
https://youtu.be/ap6zAq1VBh0?t=1068
>Botan: She [Watame] was delicious. But she respawned without issues, so it's all okay.
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1306565212451950593

Botan eating Watame was also referenced in Giri Giri Warukunai Watame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-i1gzWeeOI

- In addition, Kiara herself also acknowledged Watame's ability to respawn is technically better than hers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjyKzu8aUZM

Note: Watame actually explained that she has this ability because she's a mutated sheep, but the translator didn't translate it.

https://youtu.be/fok5dkdbz4A?t=1127
>キアラ「羊なのにリスポーンするのですごいなぁ…」
>Kiara: You're able to respawn even though you're just a sheep... That's amazing.
>わため「すごいでしょ?突然変異で」
>Watame: Amazing right? It's because of a mutation.

So imo Watame's immortality does count as a canonical ability she has, even if it might seems pretty broken.

>>32556153
>We've never seen Watame respawn on stream
Luckily there's this instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzwUSWRASeI

And no, it's wasn't a joke she made up on the spot. It was a demonstration of the lore she created a mere 2 months after debut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mz1SUs1uMo

- At the end of the 1st Overcooked 2 collab with Botan, Botan literally eats her off-screen as the collab ends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBeOfCDX2D4

It was later confirmed by both Botan and Watame that it was something that happened canonically.
https://youtu.be/ap6zAq1VBh0?t=1068
>Botan: She [Watame] was delicious. But she respawned without issues, so it's all okay.
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1306565212451950593

Botan eating Watame was also referenced in Giri Giri Warukunai Watame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-i1gzWeeOI

- In addition, Kiara herself also acknowledged Watame's ability to respawn is technically better than hers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjyKzu8aUZM

Note: Watame actually explained that she has this ability because she's a mutated sheep, but the translator didn't translate it.

https://youtu.be/fok5dkdbz4A?t=1127
>キアラ「羊なのにリスポーンするのですごいなぁ…」
>Kiara: You're able to respawn even though you're just a sheep... That's amazing.
>わため「すごいでしょ?突然変異で」
>Watame: Amazing right? It's because of a mutation.

So imo Watame's immortality does count as a canonical ability she has, even if it might seems pretty broken.

>>32598092
What's Elysium of HoloStars EN exactly supposed to be? Is it a continent? A country? A different dimension?
I think it was mentioned to be some sort of digital world like in Digimon, but I have no idea if they ever mentioned the scale of it.

>>32610740
Seems like they are in some kind of VR world, maybe.

>>32610207
>In addition, Kiara herself also acknowledged Watame's ability to respawn is technically better than hers.
Interesting, she mentions that Kiara should keep training so maybe Watame respawns faster because she needs to use the ability more often.

>>32611206
What is a "solution" world supposed to be? Was this translated from jp?

>>32602216
why is Irys always up there?
what is even her power?

>>32620603
She's a half angel, half devil, Nephilim.

>>32622733
That's not it, otherwise Kanata would be way higher. It's because he lore video says she was born before the universe or something.

>>32622848
and being old is the same as being powerful?
a pile of dirt could be from the beginning of the universe. Does that make it powerful?
What is Irys power? Can she shoot sundestroying laserbeams out off her arse?

>>32622955
Idk, I think it's dumb personally. I can't recall her stating any particular powers, I'd put her in mythical personally.

>>32622955
>and being old is the same as being powerful?
You're right, by itself it doesn't. If that's all she has, then it would be the same case as Elira, people assuming she's powerful simply because of age even though there is nothing that actually indicates so. >>32352124

The main reason why IRyS is placed so high is because of these official Cover statements:
>>32149861

Specifically "once brought hope to 'The Paradise' during the ancient age" and being there to witness the creation of the multiverse. Although vague, these could be interpreted as her being a 5th dimensional being (or even above) at peak, which would put her at the same level as Bae. But yes, I don't believe there's any concrete evidence so this might be a case like Ina.

>What is Irys power? Can she shoot sundestroying laserbeams out off her arse?
>I can't recall her stating any particular powers
There's this feat from her debut song/stream.
https://youtu.be/WTU3TIZRUCM?t=167

There are probably more, but I personally don't watch IRyS so I can't tell you off the top of my head. And also keep in mind this is her 2nd awakening, presumably weaker form.

>>32624708
>shifting dimensions
>controlling time
>manipulating life and death
Yeah, that's god-tier alright.

Any theories on how Kiara got access to the "Usual Room"? The way she describes it is not as some normal room but as a pocket dimension with infinite iteratios of itself that can adjust to someone's deepest fear, did she create it? Has someone or something granted her access to it?

>>32626426
The following seems to suggest the Usual Room could be a collaboration with Mori. Maybe it's related to the Underworld?
https://youtu.be/YQPAphawZCY

>>32598092
>Ironmouse vs Bae and/or Rosemi
I get Bae but can I get some info on Rosemi?

>>32628073
Rosemi is Satan.

>>32598092
Where's Prisms chart?

>>32624708
Being the personification of a concept should also count for something

>>32600747
>>32601374
How? how the fuck do you watch vtubers without the youtube algorithm molesting you with ironmouse nyanners and froot clips?
I need this power.

>>32633304
>Where's Prisms chart?
Nobody did one yet and I personally don't know anything about them. Feel free to enlighten us.

>>32626426
Where does she describe the "usual room"?

>>32628073
It's basically mouse vs rat and Satan vs Satan

This joke has gone way too fucking far, Jesus.

>>32638339
>It's basically mouse vs rat and Satan vs Satan
All of them are in the Multiversal ballpark too so it's actually a pretty good matchup.

>>32598092
>>32551890
Haachama (No GODCHAMA) vs
Cursed Pomu w/ Reimu Hat & Max PP Energy AND Lulu (forma de eldritch horror) AND/OR Nyanners

>>32635136
Yes. Although this isn't hololive specific, I'd imagine Hope would be the concept with one of the highest power levels, since Japanese media often treat "righteous" qualities as such.

>>32639957
What does the hat do?
I don't think Pomufication will work on Haachama and even if it does, Haachama can make clones of herself faster than that.
Not sure what Lulu can do, I don't think she got scaled on these threads yet.
Nyanners could achieve a draw by lighting the beacon if her curse ability to seal powers don't work. But those seem to be her last resorts if things don't go her way so she might try to use them too late.
I can't see a clear winner unless we take into account that Haachama is okay with losing now and then to use that experience to grow more powerful later on, maybe things would change with Lulu since I don't know what she can bring to the table here.

>>32598092
dont even bother... Ive seen a lot of people argue that v tubers have reality warping powers and toon force or can destroy everything, bla bla bla. Its all stretch and made up mumbo jumbo.

oh, she can travel dimensions, so she can bust open planet earth in one blow since she is multiversal.

She is older than time, so she can destroy the sun with one twerk. She is galaxy level.

This character came from hell. They can destroy all of reality easily. Sure... sure that connects...

its all wank

Most powerscale is really faulty logic. Batman was able to defeat reverse flash, so batman can react to attacks faster than the speed of light. Batman can defeat superman, so he is multiversal in power.

>>32641513
Reimu Hat and PP Energy just boost her power level. We know that with the hat she goes from Universal+ to Multiversal, and it might also increase her pomufication power but as you said, Haachama most likely can counter it/unaffected by it.
>>32350504

I pitted them together because they are all the 'secretly eldritch horror' vtubers I know. I don't know much about Lulu neither but she was one of the OG eldritch horror vtubers so I included her.

>>32641930
What I get from this is that "X defeats Y, so X is at least as strong as Y" is inherently faulty logic, which is probably true desu.

>>32641930
>Ive seen a lot of people argue that v tubers have reality warping powers and toon force or can destroy everything
We would only give them toon powers if their lore establishes that they have them. Otherwise we ignore those feats.


>Most powerscale is really faulty logic.
The entire premise of powerscaling is to use logic to rank them, so if you think you have a more logical way feel free to share your thoughts.

>Batman was able to defeat reverse flash, so batman can react to attacks faster than the speed of light. Batman can defeat superman, so he is multiversal in power.
I don't really like the vs wiki type of scaling but I think it's the most recognized way to do it.

>>32640960
What I noticed about IRyS is also that she may actually be the cause for why hope is required in the first place.
https://youtu.be/y3xAl0fmEio?t=35
In this song she sings about how the hope in life is made up of her "black and white", which I would interpret as her angel and devil side.

How about creating lore for vtubbers that don’t really have them? Temmie is a good example as she’s literally playing herself

>>32644772
Speculation to a certain degree is fine but outright creating fanfiction belongs in >>32612482

>>32601374
Mouse gets 15k viewsAlso has 1.3mil subs
Pink cst is pretty large with 10k viewes 890k subs
Vei gets 10-15k
Mouse even got reconsidered by some holojp talents

>>32648448
I actually watched the Haachama collab on Ironmouses channel and there were quite a few times where Mousey says that Haachama is stronger than her.

https://youtu.be/XxcWt7dgZ9Y?t=7854

>>32638339
>Where does she describe the "usual room"?
This is the best look we've had of it
https://youtu.be/3orYX1USCjk

>>32653391
lmao, I didn't know that exists.

>>32598092
This is the current /vsj+/ power ranking

>>32660972
>Nazuna (Forma de Boing Boing)
>Live Hime Hajime
non-canon forms aren't allowed here.

>>32665495

>>32665495
Lemao

>>32617691
My guess it's a solution to the issuea of the real world. Just escaping into the virtual world. It does give me strong Digimon vibes, I wonder which kind of monsters and threats the Tempus guild usually deals with.

>>32624708
I always assumed her to be a being sort of like Michael. A very strong angel to cleanse the world.

>>32669727
I think she could be far more sinister than that.
See >>32644654
Without hardships and suffering hope wouldn't need to exist.

>>32669636
That virtual world also reminds me of holo alternative

>>32650392
That makes sense. Haachama is low-key extradimensional (as in the tier just below Tier 0: Boundless) so really only actual gods (god as in capital G gods, like the western kind) are comparable to that level of power.
>>12444096

>>32531936

>>32676376
Here's also a possible feat of hololive being just a fragment of Haachama's imagination.
https://youtu.be/P6DcLalmvkI?t=1035

>>32532405
>>32613663
>>32626719
Hey, that actually makes sense!