/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32515297
A lot of things, they are divided.
>Gura dropped Myth when Council debuted and never invites any Myth besides Ina for collabs.
>Mori is always busy, only collabs with Council and Tempus.
>Amelia is a social recluse, everyone besides Kiara avoids her like a plague for some reason.
>Ina prefers hanging out with JP members, gave up on EN.
>Kiara tries to bring everyone together but only managed to net Amelia.

Takamori was brought down. Amesame is dead with zero interaction and only a single collab this entire year.
Myth is over.

>>32515297
>what went wrong
It's all because of a certain primal creature which Pekora bought

Did you guys know that Usada Pekora invested in a primate known as a Senegal Bushbaby?

Gura seems the only member to actually be able to pull in some numbers. I am suprised we live in a world where random male nijis outperform hololife myth members all the time

>>32515616
THE SCREWY SIMIAN SHOPPER

>>32515297
nijicope thread

>>32515297
People went back to work, lost interest, or switched to NijiEN/indies.

>>32515615
A

>>32516715
seems like it

>>32515615
That fucking Doubter

reminder that every EN yab is about male

>>32517333
Ina mocking her fans for being losers watching anime girls.

>>32515297
Didn't they just held a cafe event in Busan and Seoul that was packed for weeks with lines lasting up to 7-14 hours on just weekdays alone? And that was just for Myth? Like, I'm no marketing expert or whatever but that kind of thing seems like an indication of something being big and relevant.
https://youtu.be/moU_n5J-gh0

>>32517669
As if any of these threads are informed about anything other than Twitter screenshots.

>>32517669
HoloKR when?

>>32517759
Not sure of Korea is ready for that yet. Especially considering they seem to have their own rising local Vtuber companies.

>>32517807
If anything I think that would be more than enough reason to start since there is a clear interest.

>>32517742
Which is funny considering this event was all over Twitter too.

>>32515297
Only Ina and Gura stay semi relevant

>>32517669
And what funny is that the merchandise were just magnets, badges and coasters. Yet they keep being sold out.

>>32515297
eh no my oshi is still relevant, sorry about yours though

>>32517945
That pillow looks comfy.

>>32517742
Nijinigger antis invent shit in their head? You dont say anon...

>>32517945
Oh shit, is that JazzJack? Love the guy's cute drawings.

>>32517945
It was a lot more high quality than what they usually get during these events, surprisingly.

I had this same thought just yesterday. It really feels like Myth have become all but completely irrelevant in the great scheme of things. Crazy to think that they were still on top of the vtubing world just a year ago.

>>32517669
Shit was top notch for just a cafe collab.

>>32518103
>T.Kiara
Unintentional or not, that's funny.

>>32517807
I mean, even when there isn't one. They still get clipped by Koreans and still get traction.

>>32517945
t.consoomer

>>32518103
the guy who designed kiara really shat the bed with the gundam looking shield.

>>32517945
Wish we got something like this in SEA regions. At best we MAY get an ID to show up at conventions.

>>32518236
Blame Cover. Basically gave Huke papa a mix match of descriptions for her design. The guy did his best.

>>32518239
Didn't you guys already have like two events in Australia with Myth and Council?

>>32518296
SEA, retard. SEA.

>>32515297
Honeymoon is over, if you aren't one of the oil barons who's paying for the evening in person with supas or one of their orbiter slaves, there is no reason for you to watch every stream.

The market also grew considerably and only recently reached a level of saturation where you are not starved for choice.
They're no longer the cool new thing, they're just one of many streamers using a Live2D avatar.

>>32518305
What's the difference?

>>32518214
I wish I did. Unfortunately, Korea is like half-way around the world for me.

You're talking about CCV, because nothing else makes them "irrelevant" in anyone's eyes considering they're still massively popular.

Literally the only thing that happened in the last year is that Mori fell off the song view wagon.

Kiara was always shit CCV, Ame has been sabotaging herself for years, Mori doesn't give a shit about CCV and streams JRPGs in 6 different timeslots, and Ina/Gura are still going strong.

>>32515297
Head got too big and didn't bother to grind or is trying to save roommate (Mori). Good thing I never bothered to follow the ENs and yes, I only get my EN info from the threads here.

>>32518323
I don't know many streamers using Live2D avatars getting billboards and subway advertisements just for visiting their country.

>Amesame got killed
>Ina prioritises her art career over Hololive
>Mori continually keeps shitting the bed, and is embarrassing to be friends with
>Gura prefers the council girls
>Ame constantly changes her mind on what she wants to do, making her a hard person to work with
>Kiara has lost all energy tardwrangling
>The offcollab was extremely underwhelming
Myth went downhill, the anniversary is gonna be really half-assed

>>32518326
Australia has more brown people

>>32518519
How big is that?

>>32518519
God I love KoreanFP...

>>32518586
At least two ice cream trucks long.

>>32518551
Heh

>>32518519
And mind you, this is for their "least popular" member.

>>32518519
>>32518670
Love the wawa!

>>32518551
Yeah, I bet.

>>32515297

Gura kinda stopped streaming.
Ame’s Elden Ring arc was so boring it killed everyone apart most dedicated teamates.
Mori is always busy + got the most antis.
Ina seems to want to do a Sana and switch her career fully to art.
Kiwawa sadly was never as popular as the rest, some get filtered by her voice, orhers by jrps.

>>32518670

>>32518618
Me on her head

>>32518592
It takes a lot dedication to watch streams of your oshi in the middle of the night.

>>32519038
>you now remember there is a joint South Korea called eggslut

>>32516748
FUCKING

>>32519038
Also at POPCON.

>>32517669
you, uh... you lost mate?
this a catalog thread, we shitpost about unfounded rrats to our heart's content in order to farm seethe from the target's fans, or from pretending to be the target's fans and replying to yourself.
If you want serious discussion, stick to the generals.

>>32517945
there was themed food as well, don't forget

>>32519085

>>32517945
it's a chance to buy merch without spending double on shipping.
westerners won't understand the struggle.

>>32519221
Yeah, according to Koreans they were actually delicious.

>>32519140
MONKEY

>>32517669
People underestimate how powerful Myth is. My normie friends know about them. That's HUGE.

>>32519281
I know it was just a shitpost but man it would have been funny to have a fried chciken shaped cake.

>>32519281
uooooooohhhhhh sipping on Gura juice

>>32519281
I'd have a slice of Ina's cake if you know what I'm saying

>>32519272
Doesn't Hololive's online merch store provide shipping to South Korea?

>>32519394
Not like it would have been out of place. Anythung can be cake these days.

So the EN side currently is:
>HoloEN: Decline
>NijiEN: Incline
>VShojo: Decline
>Small corpos/indies: Incline
right?

>>32519523
You still have to pay for shipping, maybe a bit less.

>>32519281
>three cakes
>a couple of thighs
>some kiddie meal
Not sure if it was intentional on the organiser's part but if not then it's even more hilarious.

Ohhh what will become of HoloMyth...?

>>32519328
My normie friends know more about NijiEN than HoloEN. HoloEN isn't as big as it used to be

>>32519328
>people
More like catalog readers.

>>32515297
Idk i like kiara

>>32515297
nothing

>>32516715
/thread

>>32517669
this. they also had a fucking huge festival in march with other members and crunchyroll expo had a floor dedicated to them and other holo members

Until the actual members of Myth are allowed to go to Japan, Myth will continue to stagnate. They never should have announced 3d as early as they had. The hype is all but dead.

>>32515297
Of course, when they were the only ones around and Hololive had recently made it big in the West.
However whatever the talents the individual members had, Myth as a whole is a dysfunctional mess. While they reaped the subs, they failed to create the Box factor of Hololive, allowing for other western chuubas to hoover up the viewers. The fans that did stay all hate each other.
I don't blame this entirely on them, HoloJP Gen 1 was the same. It is the natural result of bringing together a group based on talent without regards to their unity. Hopefully Gura can capitalise on her personal success and be the leader Fubuki was. She is already ingratiating herself in Council.
I shall await to see if EN3 will be the homerun that JP3 was.

>>32515297
meds

>>32529259
I really can’t put it any better than this

>>32515582
This.

>>32516715
This. There are a lot of really good indie streamers now, Snuffy probably being the biggest among them. Many also embrace the NSFW side as well, specially the porn. Plus they come off as more sociable

>>32518236
>the guy who designed kiara really shat the bed
End the sentence there and it's still accurate.

>>32519301
FROM

>>32518497
what is cvc¿?

>>32516715
I used to be all about Myth and I've been steadily going down the NijiEN pipeline

>>32518236
>>32531434
>kiara really shat the bed
ftfy

>>32518103
>>32518236
I hate Kiara's weapons so goddamn much! They don't make any sense thematically.

>>32517669
Anon you know you can’t actually speak the reality on /vt/ stay in formation and don’t take your meds faggot.

>>32515297
As much as I hate Mori, seeing their supposed unity die off slowly is actually kinda heartbreaking

>>32515297
>now it feels like it's all going down the drain
not all, just the ones that weren't supposed to be there in the first place.

>>32532783
NO THEY ARE FAILINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>32517759
The Korean vtubing scene has had repeated issues with severe bullying, they'd have to enforce really good management in a new cultural sector to make it work without issue.

>>32517759
>>32517807
>>32517839
>>32518205
There's a lot of small corpos coming out right now and there's lots of indies who have the aptitude for joining Hololive. That being said, if the do go through with it (I doubt it), as >>32533540 says, they should vet the talent extensively as even the smallest issue could cause issues. Also don't let Ina and Kronii anywhere near the project for the love of god.

>>32517945
Way more than that, there was also a power bank, photo frame, sticky note pads, curtain, wireless charging stand, mousepad, bag, hand fan, hoodie, t-shirt, mug, folders, and probably 3-4 versions of badges and magnets.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20220720-02-3/

>>32534257
Damnit, I wished I could've gone there myself.

>>32534071
I don't know the name of the group but I saw there was like a Korean 3D VTuber group that got a bit popular recently. Can't pinpoint who they were though.

>>32534257
>3-4 versions of badges and magnets
It was kinda like trading cards. I saw Korean fans exchanging which version of Kiara and Ina they had with each other. Reminded me of swapping Pokémon cards in the schoolyard.

>>32531801
Can't make sense when the theme was literally randomised and given to Huke.

I like streamers that play video game good.

>>32515822
Because of all the degenerate fuckers that like lolis

If Gura didnt have that design she wouldnt be as popular

>>32531801
>>32536114
I think Kiara might actually have the worst character concept in all of Hololive. It feels like everyone fucked up in some way when developing the character
>Core concept is a fucking mess, sentai theming but also she's a fast food chain manager for some reason and also she's a phoenix, none of these elements really compliment each other very well
>Biggest odd one out in her gen too, design-wise. Phoenix doesn't fit the whole pulp adventure thing the rest of the girls have.
>Outfit tries too hard for sexy and ends up just kind of looking like hooker clothing
>Kiara wanted to be respected as a singer, but also decides to use the biggest debuff voice possible, making it nearly impossible for her to actually be a top singer in EN (especially since Gura mogged her so hard in that department right out the gate)

>>32535908
Yeah Isegye Idol. They have their own Holobox. They're mostly inspired by Hololive as well. /#/ thread talks about them sometimes.

What went wrong is that they don't fucking collab or do much with each other.

>What went wrong?
>Tempus and Council

>>32515582
>Ina prefers hanging out with JP members, gave up on EN.
Really? I don't watch much of Ina but since when does she hang out with JP? I'd watch that.

>>32536669
You keep telling yourself that and lying that she has the personality that actual keeps people coming. If it was Kiara, Mori, Ame or Ina behind it they would fail otherwise.

>>32515297
they were "trending" for a while, now they aren't.
name the things that were trending on the internet 3 years ago.

that's the way she goes, anon

>>32517333
JP yabs
>traced art
>made fun of a doujin in front of the artist
>leaking internal company secrets
Japs certainly have more interesting yabs other than "pissed off fanbase about males'

>>32536901
Kiara makes some pretty good strategic choices for dealing with her fucked up fried chicken character, so her insistence on the shitty voice is just shockingly and unforgivably bad.
I have no idea why management hasn't told her to cut it out with a 'throat injury' arc

>>32533175
When times get tough people care about their income, even talking to that fat wigger will literally cost you money. Kronii learned that lesson, doubt she will ever make that mistake again.

>>32515822
Reminder, they were had all of the designs for HoloX & Council when IRyS debuted. They screwed her specifically, by giving her the worst design then worked backwards thru Council. They should have just let her use OG LoliRyS.

>>32519187
Sanest people around here, like unironicaly.

>>32517669
Don't feed logic to monkeys.

>>32548255
If only every monkey was like Pekora's. RIP little nigga.

>>32543527
It doesn't take much to follow a hobby you actually like instead of going off of highschool level gossiping.