/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

# is declining

Nigga~

>>32513662
VSPO has less popularity in the west than NijiJP

>>32513849
Who in NijiJP is popular in the West?

>>32513802
>September events

Hololive
>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)
>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)/ Botan new outfit
>4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)
>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)
>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update
>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)

Nijisanji
>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)
>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release
>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)
>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)
>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)

>>32513666
>but theres also many niji girls who beat them
If that's true then Vspo's median should be lower to Nijisanji, which isn't the case. Median addresses the problem of them having unequal number of members for comparison. Simply put, Vspo is ahead than Nijisanji.

If we lose and get eliminated than the divegrass tournament loses the only team that actually knows how to employ the bantz. The tournament will just be shitty and more boring because of it. The loss is on them, not us.

OK, a comment at the end of the last thread made me think: VSPO EN. Why the fuck not?

>>32513662
>>32513849
Maybe when NijiGamers is successful. They'll launch an EN branch full of FPS girls (It's your cue Ryeschizo) and throw them at them

The truth? The actual truth?
It's actually very complicated. It has nothing to do with virtue signaling or whatever bullshit /pol/ has rotted your brain with. It's just capitalism. The short answer is that Hololive is a big fish in a small pond, while Nijisanji is a small fish in a big pond. Think outside vtubing. Companies like Holo and Niji want to grow beyond niche internet streaming and turn their business into something that can compete with like, anime and television as an industry. Hololive's continued growth requires breaking into new markets, which is very difficult for it to do in its current form.

Hololive is undeniably the industry leader, but they've done so by associating themselves with idolfags and anime otaku, and pandering heavily to them. And that's been very lucrative for them, undeniably, but they've also reached saturation. How many more potential Hololive fans are you going to get from the kissless virgin demographic? I think just about everyone who could be a Hololive fan, is one, at this point. Or at least knows about them. And Hololive keeps them happy, but in doing so - keeping up the CGDCT atmosphere, doing idol shit, keeping genders segregated, etc - all this turns off normalfags and the twitch market. A much, much larger, more general audience that represents an untapped market. Corporations like Hololive are never content with what they have, they always want more. They always want their cake and to eat it too. But the twitch audience wants male collabs, they want to see the girls interact with men, they care about interesting content more than they do GFE. That's the difference between the idol crowd and the twitch crowd.

Nijisanji has done a good job of gathering this crowd. They don't do as good of a job with the otaku crowd as Holo does - but they don't alienate the GFE fans either, that's key - despite what some dramafags on /vt/ will say, Niji has plenty of parasocial incels feeding akasupas as well and Selen worshippers or whatever. But at the same time, they normalize male collabs, stream with twitch streamers, and in doing so they break the barrier and introduce their vtubers to this twitch audience Hololive desperately wants. That's what Holo wants to copy. But at the same time, Hololive has kind of "spoiled" its idol fans - it's gotten them used to being waited on, hand and foot, and so there's this dilemma - Hololive made its name for pandering to idolfags, but in doing so it makes it impossible to grow into new markets.

Tempus is a VERY measured and careful attempt to break into a new market. Barely collab with the girls, compared to what Niji does, and the idolfags still go wild and bully Kronii into taking a break. And this is why Holo struggles to enter the Twitch market. In the end, I don't care who's right or wrong or who's the cuck or who's the incel, but this is the truth - Hololive wants to grow, it doesn't JUST want to be a niche thing for idolfags and Otaku.

>>32513865
Ars, but sadly her 3D debut mogged by Botan debut stream

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

>>32513849
And in spite of it, Vspo has better CCV than NijiJP, which goes to show how the latter reclined/stagnated.

>>32513887

did marine said how much she paid for her new song, was it 100k or am i confusing it with other holo?

>>32513802
/news/ roundup for 04-09-2022
>>32454855
Recent clip numbers
>>32441751
>>32441792
>>32441945
>>32441976

>>32513875
soccer is not a true sport since you are not allowed to use your arms.

>>32513865
>>32513884
The point isn't to say that NijiJP is popular in the west but saying that VSPO barely has any presence here and no one knows them

Will VSPO EN pull a Tempus and surprises everyone?

>>32513842

>>32513865
No one.

>>32513879
>Western women
>Good at vidya
Pick one

>>32513802
/news/ roundup for 04-09-2022
>>32454855
Recent clip numbers
>>32441751
>>32441792
>>32441945
>>32441976

Jesus Christ dramanigger & shitposter really THAT frustrated for yabs, huh?
They are really going all out shitting up catalog, fucking faggot.

>>32513918
Which is irrelevant to the argument because the argument is about someone asking over the popularity in the west for vspo.

>>32514000
man that was a good stream
also checked

>>32513887
I'll just assume this is a nijicope

>>32513849
VSPO did well in managing its talents. Their girls don't get drowned out by their male collab partner which is quite different when a Niji female does it.

>>32513887
Highest grossing japanese entertainment product is a waifu/husbando gacha game.
Idol shit is the way to go.

>>32514016
Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022
>>32425456
Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time
>>32425636
August 2022 tables
>>32379748

>>32513871
Please, post a graph with only JP girls and VSPO and their median. VSPO girls obviously beat all 3view girls, except Toto who is almost on that level I guess, but otherwise many jp niji are above other vspo.

>>32514011
You called?

>>32513934
You were probably thinking about Matsuri. Marine never disclosed her expenses on her projects. The former was ranting about the cost because she only hires big names and can't do anything like writing music, lyrics, video editing etc.

>>32513984
There's no good non-asian female gamer on the market so no.

>>32514047
Are you guys retarded? Why the fuck are you making arguments against NijiJP? My only mention was to show that vspo is completely unknown, even more than NijiJP was and is.

>>32513802
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>87,145: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>76,937: Choco (Hololive)
>37,932: Subaru (Hololive)
>37,573: Miko (Hololive)
>35,495: Korone (Hololive)
>30,762: Gura (Hololive)
>29,820: Ayame (Hololive)
>25,263: Miko (Hololive)
>24,944: Flare (Hololive)
>22,792: Enna (Nijisanji)
>20,443: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,511: Botan (Hololive)
>17,999: Mio (Hololive)
>15,577: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,377: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>14,061: Beni (VSPO)
>13,866: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,675: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,459: Luna (Hololive)
>13,330: Nui (Nijisanji)
>13,244: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,407: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,883: Met (774 Inc.)
>11,879: Polka (Hololive)
>11,600: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,485: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,843: Bae (Hololive)

>>32514069
Even some vspo are 3view or am I confusing it with neoparte?

>>32514070
Why is it always during SEA hour?

>>32513976
And I'm saying that VSPO is literally Niji collab partners. It's basically guaranteed that they'll do the same strat and spam them at Selen and the others for collabs

>>32513802
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY *

>9/4 Daily Tally
30,762: Gura (Hololive)
22,792: Enna (Handcamsanji)
15,605: Vox (Handcamsanji)
10,779: Baelz (Hololive)
9,525: Regis (Hololive)
9,521: Mori (Hololive)
9,204: Luca (Handcamsanji)
6,973: Mumei (Hololive)
6,683: Shu (Handcamsanji)
6,145: Enna (Handcamsanji)
5,638: Yugo (Handcamsanji)
5,287: Noir (Hololive)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER
1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)
2. Yugo (Handcamsanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)
3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 3
Nochairsanji - 1
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
2x: Gura
1x: Yugo, Noir

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Gura: 10
Yugo: 5
Noir: 5
Fauna: 3
Mysta: 3
Alban: 3
Enna: 3
Vox: 2
IRyS: 1
Amelia: 1

>>32514117
Because selenfags are consisted of 50% seanigger and 50% chinks

Its so funny to see anons arguing about vspo being bigger than nijisanji in a year where they get two streams over 300k and like 3 or 4 over 200k. Its not comparable at all. Vspo events barely reach 30k. The highest vspo barely touches the highest nijisanji

>>32514097
At very least I think you're right. VSPO haven't had their "nigger" or "Scatman" moment yet and I don't know they'll get a moment like that playing Apex and Valorant.

>>32514070
Win a tourney first

>>32514170
>koshien cope

>>32514069
>otherwise many jp niji are above other vspo
Again, that's not true. There are a lot more Vspo talents higher than Nijisanji members rather than vice versa.

>>32514122
Anon im merely talking about vspo popularity in the west. their clip presence in the english side is even below nijijp
if they will do it or not idk, probably not, but thats not what i was talking about
>>32514104
yes they have two 3view, toto and a girl with black hair, forgot her name

>>32514181
Hey niji had nigger moment twice and it backfired on them
(Kanae drawing black gorilla(?) and Lauren rust)

>>32514209
Please, post a graph showing that
>>32514194
Koshien as far as I know is streamed under Nijisanji. But even without that you could pick a lot more streams that are higher than VSPO. Nijisanji is closer to Hololive than VSPO is to nijisanji with their highs.

>>32514219
Why is it cute when a Japanese girl did it, but racist when two Japanese guys did it?

>>32514219
you see, you can't fly the rainbow flag and call vgori a ni**er with the hard g
holos had literal nazi-gumi group. using the n-word is kind of expected

>>32513802
>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)
14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)
15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)
16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)
18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,483 (Rust)
20. Amelia (Hololive) - 13,706 (Rust)
21. Baelz (Hololive) - 21,713 (Urban Dictionary Game Show w/Gura, Mumei, and Kronii)
22. Gura (Hololive) - 20,498 (Rust)
23. Baelz (Hololive) - 36,453 (Council 1st Anniversary Celebration w/Kronii, Mumei, and Fauna)
24. Kronii (Hololive) - 13,888 (Rewatching Debut)
25. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 43,075 (New outfit reveal)
26. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,467 (12 hour anniversary celebration)
27. Rosemi (Nochairsanji) - 40,274 (New outfit Reveal)
28. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 35,293 (Nochairsanji International Karaoke Relay)
29. Gura (Hololive) - 21,728 (Minecraft Hololive Summer Festival)
30. Selen (Nochairsanji) - 51,520 (New Outfit Reveal)
31. Mori (Hololive) - 11,227 (Rust)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 21
Nochairsanji - 10
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
6x: Gura
5x: Mumei
3x: Baelz, Fauna
2x: Mysta, Kronii, Petra
1x: Ike, Vox, Luca, Elira, Amelia, Rosemi, Selen

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Mumei: 33
Gura: 30
Fauna: 27
Mysta: 26
Baelz: 19
Luca: 17
Kronii: 12
Vox: 12
Shu: 10
Petra: 10
Mori: 10
Elira: 9
Ina: 8
Ike: 8
Rosemi: 8
Selen: 8
Amelia: 7
Alban: 4
Kiara: 4
Noir: 3
Ren: 3
Yugo: 3
Fulgur: 3
Axel: 1
Magni: 1
IRyS: 1
Pomu: 1

>>32514277
The Nijis have the LGBTQ+ audience duh. Too had NijiJP is so isolated they don't care about burger pigs

>>32514122
VSPO not stonewalling Hololive maximized the benefits of collabing with either group. I'd say it's a huge mistake for Nijisanji to alienate Holo's fandom that's why their female talents are lagging behind VSPO.

>>32514083
oh you are right, thanks

>>32514277
Women have a higher position on the internet pecking order

>>32514307
**AUGUST TOTAL EN MEDAL COUNT**

>Gold
6x: Gura
5x: Mumei
3x: Baelz, Fauna
2x: Mysta, Kronii, Petra
1x: Ike, Vox, Luca, Elira, Amelia, Rosemi, Selen, Mori

HoloEN: 21 Golds
NijiEN: 10 Golds

>Silver
5x: Mysta
3x: Shu, Luca, Fauna
2x: Mumei, Vox, Ina
1x: Alban, Noir, Ike, Rosemi, Selen, Elira, Mori, Ren, Kiara, Yugo, Fulgur

HoloEN: 10 Silvers
NijiEN: 21 Silvers

>Bronze
4x: Baelz
3x: Kronii, Luca, Fauna
2x: Ina, Amelia, Mumei, Mori
1x: Axel, Mysta, Alban, Kiara, Magni, IRyS, Shu, Pomu, Vox, Elira

HoloEN: 22 Bronze
NijiEN: 9 Bronze

>>32514256
This is just the same argument about what constitutes popularity that always gets made between hololive and nijisanji
One gets stupid numbers of tourists for big events, the other has much higher sustained everyday viewership. You could fairly say either is more popular depending on how you want to measure

>>32514277
I think Miko got away with it because she sounds and behaves retarded. I don't know why the dudes would be hammered for being ignorant of such faux pas. Getting made at them for it is bug behaviour

>>32513887
How's peko monkey by the way?

>>32514307
Overall EN Medal count since tracking began

>Gold
51x: Gura
23x: Mumei
22x: Mysta, Vox
11x: Mori
10x: Baelz, Kronii
8x: Fauna
6x: Kiara
5x: Ina
4x: IRyS, Yugo, Ike, Luca, Amelia
3x: Shu, Uki
2x: Sana, Ren, Petra, Elira, Selen
1x: Magni, Noir, Enna, Nina, Alban, Sara, Rosemi

>Silver
26x: Vox
22x: Mysta
18x: Mumei
15x: Luca, Ina
10x: Amelia, IRyS, Fauna
9x: Gura, Shu, Mori
8x: Baelz
7x: Ike, Kiara
4x: Kronii, Selen
3x: Ren, Yugo
2x: Regis, Uki, Sonny, Alban
1x: Enna, Nina, Axel, Aster, Noir, Rosemi, Elira, Fulgur

>Bronze
28x: Mysta
22x: Vox
17x: Mori
16x: Kronii, Ina
14x: Luca
12x: Baelz, Amelia
11x: Mumei
10x: Fauna
8x: IRyS
6x: Gura, Kiara
5x: Ike, Fauna, Shu
3x: Uki
2x: Yugo, Petra, Alban, Magni
1x: Selen, Sana, Fulgur, Aia, Axel, Pomu, Elira

>HOLOLIVE
136 Golds
112 Silver
116 Bronze
364 TOTAL MEDALS

>NIJISANJI
74 Gold
101 Silver
88 Bronze
263 TOTAL MEDALS

>OTHERS
1 Gold
0 Silver
0 Bronze
1 TOTAL MEDAL

>>32513879
>>32513984
VSPO's whole appeal just wouldn't work in Englis. For starters there aren't enough good female gamers, there especially aren't any good female FPS gamers, and anime/vtubing aren't mainstream enough that they'd be able to attract any attention from the FPS crowd.

>>32514306
I'm so going to bait Twittards by showing Manjigumi swastika symbol

These past few weeks
>rubbing Lamy nipples and kissed her on her cheek
>made korosan reading cute English and screaming from terror
Now this
https://youtu.be/zryLA2VZ8H0
She's trying to take our oshi bros

>>32514361 (me)
Mad*

>>32514345
>>32514335
im still waiting for individual medians for vspo and female nijijp

>>32513842
Fucking 5 goals from Kobo. Unreal.

>>32514337
100k is too cheap anyway with that production value

BOTS VS BOTS WORLD

>>32514398
>>rubbing Lamy nipples and kissed her on her cheek
God how I wish I could actually see that.

>>32514277
Unironically because girls are cuter when they're retarded. No one wants to deal with retarded guys

>>32514345
Hololive being more popular than nijisanji is obvious, even if Nijisanji is the only one who can compete with them.
VSPO is a clear third place. They never even reach 100k. Not even counting how revenue wise vspo isnt in the same level as nijisanji

>>32513887
Mucho texto, and it's basically a redditor rant about idol culture at that
Most of the most successful video games and anime are crammed full of pandering, and western normies either don't give a fuck about anime or actively hate it

>>32514421
Sana line should graduate

>>32513984
I just want cute chuubas who play competitive CS:GO

>>32514496
A pipedream anon.

>>32514496
All that but Apex. Take it or leave it

>>32514256
>Nijisanji is closer to Hololive than VSPO is to nijisanji with their highs.
This is a flat out lie. The only Holo grouping on par with Nijisanji is HoloID and both of them are on the same tier as Vspo. Hololive JP and EN are on another strata entirely.
Where do you base your claims btw?

So, who are today's gold contenders?

>>32514535
No. Fuck Apex. It's not a real FPS. If You can hold the mouse button and the gun barely moves with full auto fire it's not a fucking FPS. It's garbage.

>>32514562
AyameLui collab, Kanata Uma Musume gacha, Marine

>>32514562
I don't know if Niji has anything, but it's looking like Marine or Pekora, maybe Ayame if that collab performs better than expected.

>>32514476
I don't think anyone here argues for Vspo on par with Nijisanji in terms of income.

>>32514571
>Doom is not a real FPS

>>32514581
>>32514600
Slow day huh

>>32514614
Kek. I guess FPS started from COD

>>32514639
We've been too spoiled lately.

>>32514639
No rust,3D or koshien so yeah

>>32514476
Not saying Vspo is larger than Nijisanji, hell Hololive isn't even close to Nijisanji.
But Vspo has consistently trumped Nijisanji in median.
Perks of favouring quality over quantity I guess.

It's funny that Kanae's name becomes Kanye whenever I use Google Translate on holodex.

>>32514398
Well, they are both girls.
/u/ is just kayfabe.

>>32514219
>>32514277
>>32514734
He gets a pass

>>32514545
can you explain to me why this >>32514600 is a thing then
why no one says those things about vspo. why none of you care about them like this?

>>32514421
>>32514493
Replace Sana line with the paralympic gatekeeper / vod cope.

>>32514398
God I wish I were Lui. Don't even care that I'd be the runt of my gen.

>>32514390
Hard to say, anon. Most female vtubers are inherently gamers so talent pool is obviously not the limiting factor here. I can see VSPO achieve limited amount of success depending on how they position themselves with the collabs.

>>32514639
HoloCure starting next weekend.

>>32514562
The one with highest botted stream.

>>32514810
Sure we do, we thought they would've had a chance the other day if it weren't for the fact they overlapped a 3D, an outfit reveal and a MariFure collab.

>>32514722
This is once again a semantics argument about what popularity is
If you define it as average everyday viewership across the full roster: Hololive > VSPO > Nijisanji
If you define it as average everyday viewership amongst their strongest members only: Hololive > Nijisanji > VSPO
If you define it as peaks reached during events, or total daily viewership across all talents: Nijisanji > Hololive > VSPO

>>32514345
You're right but no one is arguing for popularity anyway. We're just comparing their viewership numbers which I also find out somewhat surprising how VSPO has eclipsed Nijisanji in median.

>>32514867
>This is once again a semantics argument about what popularity is
I'm not arguing for that, anon. I'm just talking about CCVs which the other anons have posted in here.

>>32514867
>If you define it as peaks reached during events, or total daily viewership across all talents: Nijisanji > Hololive > VSPO
This is new. Do you have the data to back it up?

>>32513887
>Twitch audience Hololive desperately wants. That's what Holo wants to copy.
Twitch streamers wish they had holo CCV. The main audience holos want in the west are anime-adjacent normalfags. Twitch is its own subculture and doesn't offer much beyond a bargaining piece against Susan

>>32513849
has VSPO had any story arcs yet?

>>32514867
I always wonder about Nijisanji's brand recognition in Japan. Do the koshienfags actually remember Nijisanji the brand or even the individual chuubas when they only tune in for a few days a year? I know we can't possibly know the answer to that question, but I do wonder.

>>32514924
>>32514890
so.. can you guys post vspo ccv median from last month? im asking this many times because i dont have it and im going from memory

>>32513802
Cringe heel.

>>32514993
Clearly. The anons here including me are threadniggers. Wait for primetime and hope Graph anon sees your request

>>32514867
>If you define it as average everyday viewership amongst their strongest members only: Hololive > Nijisanji > VSPO
It's not just their strongest members only. Stop being biased lol
Hololive members get better daily viewership than Nijis

>>32513887
Didn't read but I feel bad for it's effort. So I'll give it a (you)

>>32514948
It's the exact opposite of new, it's the thing Niji fans have been using to argue that they're still more popular since 2020 - Koshien and how having so many channels means if you add them all together they usually have more total CCV during primetime

>>32514993
Sorry anon, I don't have it and I'm not digging through archives for you. It gets posted regularly enough so I'm sure you'll see it eventually.

>>32514985
They probably remember the word 'Nijisanji Koshien' and that it's held annually, the face of old man Maimoto and Tsukasa since they've been the MC for all the time, and Shiina since she's been in every iteration. Outside of that though probably not much.

Sub is almost always the most accurate number to gauge general popularity. If you want to talk popular then sub matter the most

so what's today gold contender?

>>32514277
They only got shit for it because Kanae reacted.
If he had ignored them like usual, it would'be been fine.

>>32515106
So who is actually more popular now, Mr Beast or PewDiePie?

>>32515149
T Series

>>32513879
No market for them at the moment.
HoloEN only started because there were a lot of people watching JPs, and some wanted chuubas who spoke English to eliminate the middlemen (translators).

Isn't Vox the current gold holder?

>>32514256
We've come full circle. With how much capital and money anykara has from its investors and recent IPO, I can't believe they're not blowing out competition with their production value and merch.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1566713999835766786
5th anniversary stream up.

>>32515064
No, anon, that's actually new. On top of my head, Hololive before has around 120k to 150k viewers on primetime, Nijisanji has around 60k to 80k. I don't have the data with me tho and I don't think anyone tracks that. Also Koshien is an annual event. Those events are always outliers.

>>32514456
>Cheek
Both made smacking sounds. How do you explain that?

>>32515213
main channel debuff

>>32515213
>WIth Nishikigoi as our special MC, we look back at hololive production’s amazing journey.
>Cast: Motoaki Tanigo, Tokino Sora, Nishikigoi
>Guests: Shirakami Fubuki, Anya Melfissa, Ninomae Ina’nis, Hakos Baelz, Arurandeisu, Yukoku Roberu, Axel Syrios.

>>32514993
Chart anon will be able to supply better data, but at the end of the month:
30d median peak: VSPO ~4300, NijiJP ~2500, HoloJP ~12100
30d median: VSPO ~4000, NijiJP ~2500, HoloJP ~11900

>>32515149
T-series and not even close

Kson incline baby

>>32515136
Random Marine stream, random Ayame stream, or Random pekora stream. Dunno from nijisanji, I can't imagine someone pulling numbers without big events

A pretty good luck at the pecking order

>>32514993
>>32515288

>>32515189
>Gold with 25k
Only Pekora can manage such a feat. If push come to shove she can always snatch that gold by herself but I don't think she have to do that today

>>32513887
> twitch audience wants male collabs
What is this retardation? At no point has Cover in any official capacity pandered to the twitch audience.
> turns off normalfags
Plenty of normalfags like CGDCT anime. Just look at how big of a fanbase K-On has in the west. Cover will have no issues expanding into that marketplace.
Especially with the progressive degeneration of Western Women, there will more and more former normalfags looking for an escape from it all.
Hell this is how the EOP surge in 2020 started off anyways. They slowly left because HoloEN started stagnating, but they're still out there and aware of Hololive.
You can be sure they will tune in for EN3 debuts.

>>32515304
Tell King to play Apex again.

>>32515285
Holy shit. Axel on the hot seat already with those pillars wtf. And I'm glad it's Ina instead of fucking Mori, Bae is a staple choice

>>32515285
>Nishikigoi
Who dat?

>>32515288
I really don't understand why Vspo antis keep on denying about Vspo having better median than Nijisanji. This has been going on for months now.

YAGOOトワてぇてぇ
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1566714428657213443

>>32515285
>Axel Syrios
He's finally inching closer to nodoka

>>32515288
im not asking for the branch numbers, im asking for individual numbers

>>32513984
If Rye is not in Hololive, a theoretical VSPO EN seems like a place she might go.

>>32515213
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000788.000030268.html
Has a retweet campaign that will AI match you with a holo talent, the stream and a quiz website thing that you can win prizes by doing?

>>32515285
ISREAL

>>32515334
>King Apex
His Apex have been shit for a while now

>>32515314
God that game is number poison

>>32515314
New vspo girl is doing good already wtf. Vspo box real?

>>32515315
Why separate NijiID and NijiKR from NijiJP?

>>32515316
I really need to look up the numbers thread where Peko won gold with the yellow kart stream just to see the reactions

>>32515386
literally her first weeks retard

>>32514867
>If you define it as peaks reached during events
>conveniently forgets 491k

Someone raided Kson stream on twitch 17K.

>>32515302
Who raid it? She was at 3.8k before. It will be funny seeing the bleed

>>32515346
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/錦鯉_(お笑いコンビ)

>>32514639
welcome to post-event numberrot cleansing month

>>32515285
So, 4 japanese members - including 2 stars, 3 en members including one star. Shame no one from ID made the list

>>32515314
Vspo has always been doing good. Some people just don't want to face the reality that they easily beat Nijisanji in median CCVs.

>>32514639
Cooldown period
You can't have events all day every day

>>32515358
yowa...

>>32515213
>September 7th
Sora's 3D live on the same day.

>>32515213
Huh will they reveal some kind of roadmap in the stream? It has 'Coming soon' at the bottom when you select the 2022 timeline.

>>32515368
Dunno what are the odds, but I got my oshi as a reply

>>32515433
Ehhh, Sony music artists?

>>32515445
kek

>>32515422
It was a Connor raid, 23K stream. It's down to 10K.

>>32515433
Ahhh the Oji-san Nousagi, neat.
https://youtu.be/yR6bfSkWOiM

>>32515445
> shame no one from ID made the list
Kek

>>32515463
and yet you guys use vspo against nijisanji as ammo instead of seeing them as some competitor to holo.

>>32515433
Are they big in Japan? They seem to ve a bigger deal than VAs

>>32515534
VSPO like Hololive is specialised compared to the generalist Nijisanji.

>>32515575
>Are they
They are. The only thing bigger than VA in Japan is unironically comedians

all 5 council members are here

>>32515475
EN3

>>32515534
VSPO's niche only slightly overlaps with Aqua and Botan and even then...

>>32515351
It's arguable anon. VSPO doesn't have Vox Akuma's, Mysterio, Fuwa, Chin-man, Salome that can consistently pull 10k. Biggest VSPO right now I think is nose...

>>32515604
Each year shows the members who debuted in that year

>>32515393
It helps keeping track on the evolution of those former branches, and helps keeping track on the evolution of the main branch.
I could add a row with the combined branches but it adds no insight

>>32515534
Stop being biased for once. Vspo directly competes with Nijisanji. I hope you don't disagree with me here. The Holo that's close to Vspo in terms of content is Towa and Matsuri. Basically as a group, Hololive has a very different content and targets different demographic that's why we don't compare to two groups together.

>>32515606
doubt it. more chance of JP7 or ID4.

>>32515626
Well...

>>32515618
>VSPO's niche
>Botan
You surely mean Towa. Botan stays clear away from anything FPS, the only thing that connects her to it is her reputation

>>32515626
Even makes a distinction on when they adopted Miko. hmm

>>32515575
They sure are. The duo also won the best comedian title at the beginning of the year.
https://youtu.be/aC85ekylp2Y

>>32515626
Hitomi Chris...

>>32515662
Was more thinking competent gameplay, but I guess you're right.

>>32515619
I thought we were comparing the girls? Almost all of them are shitters

There's 15 Nijisanji channels before a VSPO appear
if female, you have toko, ange, lize, sasaki and salome above all vspo
then nui, shiina, furen, hoshikawa, Ars, Chihiro,Ratna and many other female above other vspo as well..

>>32513849
If vspo has an EN branch, I don't want rye and her sister to be in it....

>>32515626
Can you imagine 2019 Hololive? Debuting Sankisei and the first Holostar gen, unaware that they will completely changed the company 3 years into the future

>>32515626
Chris-chan, my oshii...

kek, this raid reminds me of the NijiEN ones.
>3.8k to 17k to 9k

>>32515660
Aloe Vera...

>>32515618
>>32515636
im literally not talking about niche but how you guys talk so much about nijisanji and barely about vspo. not even you guys act like vspo is second but third.

>>32515627
Nijisanji aka NijiJP was once composed of different boxes pre 2022 merger. Why not split them then? Seeds, Gamers are fairly huge groupings too. Also ID and KR are both being promoted on the main branch.

>>32515715
lmao

>>32515715
And Vshitshow cucks will tell us they are a direct competitor to Hololive lmao

>>32515754
>Tfw Pekora anniversary and Nazuna anniversary will be on the same day every year
Yeah they are direct competitor alright

>>32515626
the joke is Sana isn't there it's IRyS

>>32515714
Xe just escaped prison fren you still have a chance

>>32515604
Now THAT is Council!

>>32515285
Why Ina and not Kiara?

>>32514867
>Niji wins daily averages
Niji can't even have a 100k total CCV during primetime without an event. But holos just need to stream to get that total number. Nijiniggers getting cocky again.

>>32515715
ame raid on robocosan for comparison

>>32515715
Jesas christ. This is why we ditched Twitch tally

>>32515445
Kneel

>>32515786
Joke?

>>32515810
Does the holobox somewhat affect twitch too?

>>32515795
chicken voice

>>32515660
What the fuck. Where's ID2? They debut on December 2020

>>32515715
This is the biggest EN competitor of Hololive? The one who dissed even Anykara for being corpo?

>>32515754
They're not even streaming on the same platform...

>>32515837
seems like it. this was pretty late for NA too.

>>32515841
They're split between the top and bottom of the page based on debut order, myth and ID2 are at the bottom of 2020

>>32515841

>>32515810
Holobox transcends platforms wtf. Twitch andys unironically watched a Jap stream

>>32515660
>>32515604
Officially hololive.

>>32515795
Muh idol.

Where's my comedian MC riku?

>>32515875
Oh, 2020 has the most terminated Holos

>>32514181
OreApo

>>32515890
was kinda a mix of jp, kr and na watchers. some of the kr stayed around for a while surprisingly

>>32515701
thanks, thats what i wanted and what i mean. vspo is above many niji girls but many niji girls are also above many vspo:
Salome
Lize
Toko
Ange
Sasaki
>Hinano
>Ema
>Ichinose
Nui
Shiina
Furen
Ars
Hoshikawa
>Ramune
Chihiro
Ratna
>Runa
>Sumire
>Nekota
Hayase
>Noah
>Lisa
>Beni
Chima
Amamiya
Hayama
Sango
>Mimi
Yorumi
>Nazuna
Ponto
Elu
Naraka
>Asumi Sena
Utako
Luis cammy
Himawari
Mao
Yotsuha
>Qpi
Gundo
Sister Claire
Rion
Kaede
Chigusa
Lain
Mahiro
Levi
Ririmu
Tamaki
>Kisaragi
Rin
Karuta
Hayase
Tomoe
Natsume
>Toto

Then after Toto she's above all the other nijijp girls, but otherwsie, thats how it is and it shows how vspo and niji girls compare and how some are above others in median

>>32515715
Who raided Kson? Mouse?

>>32514181
VSPO has towa

>>32515965
Isegye audience who started from Myth worship I presume

>>32514181
They had "the angry gamer girl"

>>32515285
nice, still not gonna watch homos kek
I rather watch any manjisanji than those boring dudes

>>32515981
Ponto being above 4 vspo and Yotsuha being above 3 vspo is a surprise to me. guess ranunculus didnt do that bad outside of the red

>>32516005
That's just every female vtuber

https://twitter.com/comptiq/status/1566651726270431234

>>32516005
That's nose. But newfags unironi know her as another Niji

>>32516042
>Daisenpai
>Botan
>Anyer

>>32515981
Noah is declining after her yab?

>>32515881
ID2 and ID3 need a new default advertise art.

>>32515701
Here, to help you guys to make your case
> NijiJP girls vs. VSPO, median of peak CCV; Jan to Aug 2022

Power ranking for 2022 as a whole would be

1) Salome
2) Top NijiJP girls
3) Nose
4) Mid-top NijiJP girls
5) Top VSPO girls
6) Mid NijiJP girls
7) Mid VSPO girls
8) Mid bottom NijiJP girls
9) Bottom VSPO girls
10) Bottom NIjiJP girls

>>32516071
They're not female

>>32516055
i mean, yeah, nose is one of those even in japan where they think shes a niji because of her collabs with kanae

>>32516045
Uoooooooh Lapu-chama ToT

>>32516084
They need 3D first.

>>32516084
They don't have 3D yet. Same with IRyS and Council

>>32516100
should we class VSPO golds as niji golds if that's the case?

>>32516085
More on that, NijiJP girls make for
>9 out of the top 10
>13 out of the top 20
>19 out of the top 30

The problem for NijiJP tho is that VSPO was never supposed to be this strong in comparison, it has the same "vibe" as Niji vs. Holo in 2019 with Holos establishing themselves in a "blind spot" niche and gaining on Nijis, uncontested

>>32516155

>>32516085
thank you, i did it already but its going to be useful anyway>>32515981

my point is less that vspo isnt above niji jp girls. they are. my point ist that theres also many niji jp girls who are above others when looking at those lists
girls seen as failure here like ponto are above qpi and sena.
then you have Nui, Shiina, Furen, Ars, Hoshikawa, Chihiro and Ratna above Tsuna, Noah, Runa, Sumire and Beni.

>>32516170
VSPO is the final nail on Nijigirl coffin. That's why Bora was smart in jumping ship kinda like Luna.

>>32516199
>i did it already
This table is new, it's from January 2022 to August 2022, you can see by the fact Mito is represented there.
The one anon posted is just for August 2022

>>32516085
Are you graph anon? Ty

>>32516208
She should be next right bros?

>>32516208
Bora's numbers on VSPO are literally on a similar range as she had when she was on KR. You act as if she was unpopular when she had a median of 4k-3k, which came from her PL to her new account

>>32516249
Mito and Nui next.
Honhima graduating would give legitimacy to the Axia rrat

>>32516249
Pekora is giving all of her attention to Koyori atm so she got no chance

>>32516249
No. No more nijis. Luna is only acceptable because she got out of there quickly enough and because she was clearly mistreated there. I WILL anti any other niji that makes the jump if it comes to that.

>>32516249
Fuck her. Left unscathed after Axia's career turned to cinders. Who would want a liability of a slut like her?

>>32516274
>Bora
>4k median
proof next thread?

>>32516244
true thanks for that. this guy already made my point anyway >>32516170

>>32516274
>PL
kill yourself

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1566723192638410752
Hololive underestimating Hololive's popularity

gold?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSEJ_Qs2Gk

>>32516295
lol you guys still with those retarded rrats about nui and mito
>>32516320
>similar range
>4k-3k
im obviously talking about it because she had similar numbers and im not sure, thats why range

>>32516340
*sigh* name a better duo. Even their talents have the same mindset

>>32516340
Hololive and underestimating things, name a better duo.

>>32516340
nah, they just intentionally set the bot up so that it would be overloaded. it's kind of like when they intentionally understock merch and it sells out quickly. it's all about the illusion of popularity.

>>32516351
thats not hololive 5th anniversary..
hololive only began as an agency in 2018. sora debuted as part of cover

>>32516368
Again, proof next thread?
Bora's median outside of APEX tourney season was around 2k

>>32516393
Hololive as trademark started in 2017 tho, granted at that time Hololive was just the app name and not the production agency.

So what's Hololive 5th anniversary about? Why are there so many non-JP talents?

>>32516444
Seem like "Taking a look back to the journey"
Maybe they will go into details about their thoughts and ideas behind all of their decisions

>>32516444
This is the expansion of Hololive to Multimedia.

>>32516444
EN3 announcement

>>32516396
you dont think 2k and 4k is close?

I cant stop looking at luxiem sisters on twitter on anime impact. i want to fuck that bunny mysta
https://twitter.com/Nijisanjiluvbot/status/1566654055241330688/photo/2

>>32516444
Yagoo insisted that the Holostars take part in it so the only girl that decided to show up was Fubuki.

>>32516506
No, regis is 2k shitter instead of successful 4k magni

>>32516506
>/#/ thread
> can't into number
Every time

>>32516506
I think that Bora was mainly buffed by Towa.

>>32516503
I wish that were true. They'll recount everything about EN from the past years, and drop a big teaser MV about EN 3. FUK GIVE ME KINO COVER

>>32516506
4k is 2 times 2k

>>32516084
Alas, until their 3d debut they're stuck with 'le default pose'. Same with Council.

>>32516249
Yes please.

>>32516563
>past
>present
>future

>>32516563
Ok

So what if
>3rd gen miracle work and EN3 is a successful group
>EN3 is another bunch of mediocre talents like Council

>>32516546
>>32516567
well i said 3k-4k for a reason, i wasnt sure on that. anyway point is, bora was already popular, she just got a bit more. she wasnt a 3view and became a 4k streamer

>>32516393
I've said before, there's half a dozen dates you could pick that would be equally valid as the start of "hololive", but Sora's first stream is the least confusing/silly one
The rest are things like when their app nobody cared about came out, when gen 1 auditions opened, or Mel's debut

>>32516563
Cover hasn't said a single word about EN3. What makes you think that it's even a possibility?

>>32516249
Same day that Matsuri joins Nijisanji

>>32516531
Oh isn't this the event where they pay $75 for a 1 minute meet n greet with Luxiem? It's today?

>>32516543
>Daisenpai
>Ina
Try again unicuck

>>32516506
Depends on the scale.
On a scale of 1 to 1 million, eh, sure they're 'relatively close'.
On anything that doesn't scale the difference between to sub 1%? Get outta here not even close.

>>32516531
all nijien cosplays on the event
https://twitter.com/Nijisanjiluvbot/status/1566638195374055424?s=20&t=m0xsCI-Rxd9VBBK3l69czA

>>32516588
NTA but thank you for reminding me that it's good and I should watch it again

>>32516619
No one cares anon, it's not the cosplay thread

>>32516593
Anon? Bora was a 3view up until she pandered to JP.

>>32516599
What are you going to do with your time when EN3 gets announced
I assume take a short vacation then start posting this about EN4

>>32516593
Anon, just stop.

>>32516619
Jesus, it has more people than AX Hololive meetup. How did Hololive recline so much in NA?

>>32516608
?
Ina isn't JP. Sora is the main cast not a guest and she already calls into Holostar streams so I don't get your point.

>>32516619
>>32516531
Some of them are fine as hell. But this is the number thread so, numbers ?

>>32516595
to me hololive debut is in 2018. There's no hololive as an agency even with just sora or even roboco.

>>32516653
>when EN3 gets announced
utterly delusional

>>32516531
>>32516619
Just post pictures faggot. Cosplay of the girl ENs preferably rather than Genderbent Luxiem

>>32516650
anon, bora has been speaking jp for most of her career in Niji, same as the other KR. it wasnt a thing that began with the merge, it has been going on since 2020

>>32516674
It's clearly meant to be an anniversary of the company's vtuber activities, which started with Sora

>>32516619
>no chairs
As expected of Nochairsanji

>>32516703
the en girls look like tranny while luxiem genderbent look great, what can i do..

When did the whole "HoloEN3 never coming" start?

>>32516531
SEGGGGGSSS
Damm that's hot

>>32516666
How about you read your own post again >>32516543
Beside that anon >>32516444 never said JP girls so his point is moot because they got exactly 4 JP talents and 4 ID & EN talents

>>32516723
well about that

>>32516743
it's just a nutcase samefagging

>>32516730
That's sad jesus

>>32516703
Anon, they're all whales

>>32516301
Pekora hates Koyori with passion

>>32516757
Don't care

>>32516766
>A small number of chairs in a segregated area with the rest standing
Well, it's an upgrade

>>32516650
Bora was 3view until she started sucking Towa's banana
ftfy

>>32516674
It's the anniversary of Hololive as a whole, including their time as L2D app company

>>32516766
Will Hololive ever attract sucha big crowd like this
?

>>32516797
k

>>32516766
with this, can we stop pretending that holoEN is more popular than nijiEN in the west?

gura killer

>>32516766
>few chairs
Inclining? This is what happens when you try maximizing profits. No wonder Nijiniggers are always seething. They don't have comfy chairs like Holochads

It's that time of the day huh?
let me get my bugspray

>>32516858
That's still a smaller crowd than Kiara specifically drew in Germany anon

>>32516858
With that size? lol

>>32516730
>>32516787
Why do I even bother... Myth and the JP girls get all the hot nsfw cosplayers. Can't have Enna's ass irl

>>32516896
Looks like its smaller than the KR restaurant line too

>>32516766
less than 100 chairs kek

>>32516910
Even AX Niji cosplayers were better than this , and they got wide Pomu and fungus for fuck's sake

35k
https://youtu.be/kKxupkIDxug

Es un cerdo

More clip numbers.
Miko(7->1) in first with FFX/Among Us. Kobo(3->2) with Valorant/zatsu. Gura(11->3) with Bigbrain/Rust(old). Lamy(18->7) with Among Us. Suisei(13->8) with Among Us/zatsu. Everyone else is coasting on yesterday's clips.
Good performances by Choco(58->12) with 3D Live, Baelz(21->14) with wife yeet, Mori(26->18) with zatsu/Rust, Kiara(49->24) with beads, Mio(44->27) with EDF, Noel(39->28) with zatsu/3D, Nene(41->29) with zatsu/Among Us, Mumei(61->31) with drawing, Regis(90->40) with Valorant, Rion(77->41) with a viral clip (8Tsub_Wg61Q, +181k/3).
Split today is 17.8M(-1.7M) HL to 9.6M(-1.2M) NJ.

>>32516766
>At most 200 people
Holy incline it's like 1/3 of Aia and Finana ccv.

>>32517082
MAGLORD NO

absolutely illegal!

>>32517088
Graph.

For a niji only event with hundreds paying for a meet and greet, that's a really small convention

>>32517082
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE. Thank God Maglord has Rio now

>>32517082
selen cosplay when ? she can replicate a 1:1 size

>>32517082
Mama Mia

>>32517178
Not wide enough for Selen

>>32517053
Glad you still here ryeshizo

>>32516590
>EN3 is another bunch of mediocre talents like Council and Myth
Fixed that for you.

>>32517082
>>32517189

>>32517189
More fit than Fungus

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>32517088
Miko(17->1) with Among Us, Choco(45->2) with 3D Live, Gura(12->3) with Bigbrain, Lamy(32->4) with Among Us, Kobo(6->5) with zatsu/Valorant.
Botan(4->6), Fubuki(2->9) and Polka(7->10) with old clips. Baelz(18->7) yeets her wife, and Suisei(26->8) with Among Us. A good incline by EN from yesterday.
Split today is 7.5M(-940k) HL to 2.4M(-280k) NJ.

>>32517189
>>32517082
Why are they posing in front of a chain linked fence?

Are NIjiEN female viewers that....disgusting? HoloEN female viewers are miles better.

>>32517252
Graph.

>>32517189
Slim Selens

>>32517244
That's like, what? 1/3 of fungus combined?

>>32517261
Nijiniggers needs to be locked behind bars anon. It's a special treatment from the con for them

>>32516199
>my point is less that vspo isnt above niji jp girls. they are. my point ist that theres also many niji jp girls who are above others when looking at those lists
>girls seen as failure here like ponto are above qpi and sena.

I think you are missing the point some are making because you are focusing on the ones saying
>VSPO is mogging NijiJP

Here is a chart that can help shedding some light on what some anons are talking.
>pic related
It has
>VSPO
>HoloID
>NijiEN girls
>NijiJP top 16 girls per 2022 median (Salome, Lize, Mito, Ange, Toko, Sasaki, Furen, Nui, Chihiro, Hoshikawa, Ratna, Ars, Shiina, Hakase, Amamiya and Chima)

There are some things that can be clearly seen

1) NijiJP girls top are "spinning their wheels", inclining from special event to special event, only to recline massively in the "mid seasons".
And even that incline was significantly more modest than the one in 2021 (out of which there is still record for the tail end)
2) VSPO is inclining considerably and consistently. Their late 2021 was already displaying an incline, when their collective median rose above 2k and then after the end of CCVID their incline is massive and seemingly without breaks.
3) HoloID for context. Even with the massive incline brought by HoloFes, ID3 and RUST meta, they are unable to match what VSPO is doing right now
4) NijiEN girls. The growth of their original girls only waves is masked by the addition of three poor performers but that is not the only cause for that drop IMO with even Finana and Reimu relapsing to 3 digits.

All in all the point is that most of these NijiJP girls (all but Salome having debuted in early 2020 or 2019?) are spinning their wheels, Nijisanji is unable to grow their female streamers and, like Hololive in 2019, VSPO is in a good pace to overtake them and eat a good part of their market
>cute girls doing cute girls and playing FPS, sometimes with boys

Nochairsanji

>>32517252
>gen 5 can't even beat Kobo and Gura with a big Among Us collab
Grim, why do they have so little mind share?

>>32517379
Where is this event anyway?

>>32517379

>>32517379
This is just sad, imagine paying hundreds of dollar to attend your oshi meet and greet and this is what you get?

>>32517369
I suppose if you stretch it back to 2020 the top nijiJP girls would still be in the 5k - 6k range?

>>32517393
LA I think

>>32517379
better than anything hololive could get

I still can't get by how we lost to kobo tempest

The other member of the Famitsu column was aki, not fubuki
https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1566724125413912576

>>32517431
I wish I had the data but that colored picture with the niji streamers split in 10k+, 5k-10k etc used to have more 10k+ girls (Lulu? Gibara? Honma?)

Will you fuck Vox now #?

>>32517473
Mori got a more impressive setup as not!Mori.

>>32516766
>no bird's view angle
Why can't they gather crowds as big as Council's? That Holo cafe collab in KR had more participants than these.

>>32517494
Unironically would

>>32517494
ToT

>>32517486
So they got 2 gamer girls and 2 normies, huh

>>32517523
Stop being that desperate anon

>Ez 20k for PPT
Ever since she left Kson, she's been streaming buff content. Will she become another Subaru?

>>32517379
>Males queueing for Luxiem m&g
Are they gay?

Doesn't this event look cheap compared to CRX and even Otakuthon?

>>32517494

>>32517494
FAT

>>32517546
it's one of the biggest anime cons in the west.

>>32517536
Now this is good stuff

>>32517541
I will say something that people that get, get
>fat chicks with big tits are very good in the sack

Kanata is probably gonna take the lead position for the day soon, she's doing really well.

>>32517536
Bomu

>>32517545
No. They stay outside and wait while their gf sucking Milord cock in the booth