/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Collabs collab collabs collabs, they really are turning into NijiEn huh

>>32466027
It should have been Bae instead of mahni

>>32466027
Let's forget the male shit for a second and let me ask real question.
> Why every collab with more than 2 member have to be FPShit for every EN Vtubers?

>>32466027
>Mori

>>32466027
Tempus boys are obviously being dragged into these forced collabs with the whore. Kobo is fine because she’s a bro too, but the others… Really pisses me off.

>>32466576
>Kobo
>Bro
She everyone's little sister
Loves sucking cocks

Why is he always left out?

>>32466220
Makes sense
https://streamable.com/qiicrx

>>32466027
>Regis and Kobo
Hell yeah
>Magni too
Even better
>Ollie
Okay, sure
>Mori
Fucking ruined

>>32466027
kobo please, stop, idc anymore if you follow ollie to promote hetero collab, but please, STOP SPAMMING VALORANT AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32466761
He is Japanese. Therefore a seiso idol.

>>32466027
mori just can't stop sucking homo dick

>>32466027
why do i have a feeling that regis is the collab beggar of starsEN?

>>32466576
You're telling me they are pussy who don't dare to refuse an offer?
More like they are enjoying it.

>>32466761
Doesn't bring the numbers. Mori just wants to be in the clips when Regis and Kobo argue and Magni gets on with Mori. Ollie is just there because she's a whore but she's still better than Mori. Without Mori this would be A LOT better.

>>32466761
He's a good man
He won't cheat on Nodoka

>>32466027
Does this surprise anyone?

>>32466912
Literally none of them are allowed to ask, only accept when asked.
There's also timestanps of him saying he'd rather collab with his genmates but won't say no if asked.

They really want to nijify Hololive so much

>mori
>already wasted
>fps
You can't make this up

Seriously your whores need to stop asking for them. Keep your women to yourself so we can have more raft kino by ourselves thanks.

>>32466298
idk man, I hate shooters

From the girls that they would typically be able to collab with, I'd prefer Bae over Ollie, but I don't mind this combo that much.

Doesn't Magni suck at any FPS game that isn't Apex though? I'm surprised he's joining.

>>32467051
It's unwritten rules by the JPstar themselves.
Don't think the American honor the same tradition

>>32466027
Mori is a plague

oh boy another homo collab! wouldn't want to go more than a day or two without the homos latching onto hololive and sucking the blood out of it!

>>32466912
I unironically think it's Vesper. That nigger is desperate to be accepted.

>>32467186
Considering they just listened to the JPstars to post their underwear because of a lost bet. I think they follow those rules quite well.
If you really want to argue someone on tempus side asking for collabs, the closest you'd get is Magni. He's unity prime.

>>32466761
I don't think he would mind collabing with HoloID so he probably just doesn't want to interract with Mori

>>32466027
As long as mori and the homos keep their nijification to their little group it's fine. The problem is when they to spread like a fucking virus to the rest of holoEN.

>>32467284
Literally what? He's not even in this one.

>>32466761
>Why is he always left out?

Axel's been collabing with StarsJP and has a Shibuya Hal tourney + RPR collab coming up

>>32466761
Aussie so time Zone differences
Plus being a singer and putting all of his energy into his projects which have not come out yet
(Like he actively admitted that he stores all of his energy up recently for colabs because the rest of it is going towards is music stuff)
Plus Nodoka

>>32466027
>Mori
>Ollie
>Kobo
Only misses Bae for full on cock sucking.

>>32467186
Nigger watch the fucking streams, Altare explicit say THEY are not allowed to ask for collabs outside TEMPUS

>>32466761
probably just tired from collabing with stars senpai or doing recordings.

>le safe mori + id whores collab
woah really breaking barriers here, omegafaggot

>>32467194
why do you guys hate on mori so much

>>32467186
Then why do they not follow Gura and IRyS on twitter? Why do they never talk to Mumei, Fauna, Kiara, Ame (aside from that one time), and Ina on twitter?

>>32467560
Really, you don't know?
She's only done about 2875 things by now

>>32467560
go back, tourist

>>32465680
>>32466270
This autistic bullshit again. Fuck off
Janny, you forget these shitheads and their fucked up threads

>Mori's so desperate for cock she's willing to play valorant
this fucking girl lmao

>>32467284Vesper has unironic autism fueling him wanting to optimize the vtubing game but he
1. Isn't here
2. Is aware he is shit at things outside of what he has already practiced and so during colabs in games he is unfamiliar with goes full autism tryhard and doesn't speak. The man is Colab poison unless its a like apex or something.

>>32467186
Anon they've never mentionned any of the Hololive girls that don't interract with them by name, even if chat tries to bait them into it.
The only exception I believe is Kiara but that's only because Mori (like the retard she is) actively forced Vesper to talk about her

If I wanted Nijisanji I would watch Nijisanji
Why is it so hard to understand?

does mori even play that game ever the fuck is she gonna be there for

>>32467567
Its become rapidly clear to me that we do not have a male problem. We have a unrepentant whore problem

>>32467765
gotta take every opportunity to ride homo cock

>>32467765
can't say no to kobo

Remember when /vt/ tried to make a drama from Ollie and Mag banter?

>>32467765
Mori unironically loves projects. Her current one is bringing holostars into the mold.

You gotta admit it's funny how Mori will dodge big holo collabs but then goes out of her way to be part of a homo collab for a game she hates and would otherwise never play

>>32467921
there wasn't much going on that day I guess

>>32467765
She's here for all the drama, making Cover look bad is her main objective. The worse Cover looks when she pulls the plug on her Holo career, the better it is for her. She's on a warpath and she doesn't care about collateral damage.

>The Stars would prefer to collab in-house, the homobeggars said

>>32468383
They did more collabs between them in the last 3 weeks than Council the whole year

>>32468383
The homobeggars were always lying, this is what they wanted. Fortunately it looks like the rot is going to be contained to 3 or 4 of the shittiest ENs.

>>32467228
All of the girls in this stream already collab with men pretty frequently and if you're a fan of any of them you'd have to be used to that at this point.

It's really pathetic seeing people pretending to be offended by this combination. This is like the safest possible male/female combination there is. The only wildcard here is Magni and Ollie being together, but it went mostly fine last time since Magni is a lot more careful about what he says around their senpai.

>>32468383
>>32468497
>>32468514
Tell your whores to stop asking then
>T-they can just refuse
They can't.
>H-homobegger cope
I don't want our boys collabing with your whores, fuck off.

>>32466027
The hell mori doing? and why this blue child keep playing valorant?

>>32468383
It's unironically Mori that organizes all these collabs and throws out invites to them.
This was already confirmed.
>NOOO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REJECT THE INVITE
Why don't they girls just do that instead?

>>32468631
The safest combo would be all homo, just give em a chance to nurture their own audience. You wouldn't want to see them desperately latching on to every single collab invite from the HoloENs and IDs, now would you? Surely, you have enough faith in the Homos?

>>32468712
>Valorant
It's definitely 100% Kobo.

>>32468825
Yes, /mans/ posters unironically want this, but your whores keep asking and they can't say no. Tell your whores to fuck off, we don't want this either.

>>32467186
>>32467567
the most amazing thing is that when Zeta and Mumei coincidentally play Rust together (gambling together), Axel was so active in Zeta's chat but NEVER mention Mumei ever, even tho the girls were talking in proximity

>>32466298
beyond among us name a game that isn't FPS and can be more then 4 players.

>>32466761
Unironically?
Aussie Timezone difference and Aussie ping.

>>32468935
Pummel Party.

>>32466027
lol, i bet drunk Mori would be better at it then sober

>>32466027
be mori doubt she ever dabble in FPS...
did she ever?
she's just burning everything right now
typical bitch behavior

>>32468935
>beyond among us name a game that isn't FPS and can be more then 4 players.
Supreme commander? Company of heroes? Dawn of war? I can name them all day.

>>32467765
Retarded reasons? the other replies to your post. Real reason? Ollie needed a 5th and no other homo was available and Mori or Bae is the only other option. Ollie also has wanted to play a game with Mori for awhile.

>>32468648
Based.

>>32466027
>She took her daughter and raised her to be a whore

>>32466576
>dragged
These dudes love it. Do you think they are a bunch of pussies who can't say no to some girls? They got a taste of big numbers and now will not stop until their audience gets tired of collabs

>>32469020
yknow, good idea anon id like to watch that, went super well when the bois did it and some funny shit happened during it, like axel's timing

>>32468931
Hey, blame Mori then, since she's trying her damnedest to destroy ALL of HoloEN, including the Homos.

>>32469148
>mori FPS
Remember that mori ollie apex collab? Not even kekbeats defended that back then

>>32466912
Most likely is as he was when he was an indie

>>32469330
Good. I don't want orcschizo near my oshi

>>32469441
I already do blame Mori.

>>32469333
They literally can't say no. >>32468648
>T-The numbers
Magni had bigger numbers as his rm, they do not care. Fuck off.

>>32468121
She really wants that nijilive

>>32469333
i got the impression that the guys dont really care about numbers too much but i only really watch vesper who principled in a autistic sort of way

>>32469547
Looks like we've found our common ground, then.

>>32468648
>They can't.
Rumao

>>32469148
She beat doom eternal. It took her over a year to do

>>32468825
"this is the safest possible MALE/FEMALE combination"

You: "the safest combo would be all homo"

???

Sure, but that goes without saying? As far as male/female collabs go, this is the most harmless one you could possibly come up with, and going "Why don't they just collab with men??!!!" is trying desperately to find a reason to be mad over something no one actually cares about. No one is going to cry if Mori or Ollie collabs with a guy at this point. Any fans who would be upset would have to be long gone by now.

>>32466761
he hates whores. he only loves pure seiso maidens.

>>32469922
Good taste. I shall support Axel spiritually

>>32466793
WTF HE'S /HERE/

>>32466027
>shamelessly leeching at this point
Homos need to graduate

>>32469904
I just want to give the homos a fair chance before they have to go begging their female senpais for collabs, anon. After all, there should be enough fujos and trannies rooting for the homos right now so they wouldn't even need to beg for collabs, right? Or are those a minority?

>>32469536
source?

>>32468514
I mean it took less than 2 months for Kronii to get caught up with Bae and Mori, Ame has already signalled she is open to group collabs so teamates are just waiting for the shot at this point.

I don't blame the stars funnily enough, I really do think at this point Mori is organising collabs with any girls she catches even a whiff of stars acceptance from and that she won't stop doing it.

>>32466761
Literally played with Kobo yesterday

Oh wow Mori, Ollie and Kobo!
I'm so angry now!

What even is the point when you all agree one is retarded and the other two are hopeless whores?

>>32469998
Very likely. And mating press is not the reason.

>>32470076
They are only getting over 5k in collabs when it's with girls. So a minority actually care about them alone.

>>32470270
I really don't want to dislike Calli but I am really starting to dislike Calli.

>>32470515
>Calli

I despise women so much it's unreal

>>32469696
Axel definitely doesn't care, since he seems to see streaming mostly as a hobby and is mainly focused on doing music as his "professional" content.

Altare and Magni are a bit competitive with each other (like when Magni did a 10 hour stream Altare immediately went and did a 12 hour one the next day to beat his record), so I'm sure the numbers do cross their minds sometimes, but they're both very principled when it comes to their content. I mean, Altare keeps doing those Zelda streams, and there's absolutely no way he would continue that series if numbers were a major priority to him.

>>32470515
I respected her original take which was " I will let them grow on their own first and don't you dare ship me or beg ANY of the other girls for collabs it is their decision"

At this point though she went back on the first point immediately and although it was nice of her to tell fans not to pressure any of the other girls it kinda feels like she is doing that herself behind the scenes, organising as many collabs as she has done and politely inviting your juniors is still peer pressure even if she thinks it isn't.

>>32470426
Because Regis keeps saying yes. Tempus is fucking complicit in all this bullshitery and should also be shit on as well.

>>32470426
>>32470501
It's because they're setting a precedent. The homos will forever be considered HoloEN's afterbirth if they don't establish their own fanbase. Mori, Bae and Ollie are actively damaging their prospects by gushing over them, mark my words.

>>32470740
Magni probably doesn't care much since if he just wanted number he would have stayed on his RM account. Altare I think is probably the biggest #fag in Tempus but even then he constantly plays debuff game he enjoys so I don't think he cares too much either.

>>32466761
He fucking HATES valorant. He played it with Kobe last night and was getting incredibly salty

>>32470740
Magni is the only one of them that has the natural inclinations and he willfully, completely avoids it since he numberfagged in the past and it devastated him mentally

>>32470076
They're not begging anyone though? Most of these collabs have been arranged by Mori.

A big problem with this logic is that they have no StarsEN senpai, only StarsJP. Because of the language barrier, it makes sense for them to collab with the EN girls because they're going after the EN audience, most of whom aren't going to be watching StarsJP.

I'm only really interested in male VTubers, but I don't know enough Japanese for it to make sense for me to watch StarsJP and I never really followed any VTuber debut news closely before I heard about Tempus. If Mori hadn't posted about Tempus so much on Twitter, I never would have found out about them.

>>32468216
Pretty based desu

>kobo

>>32471374
They're getting invited by the most controversial member of HoloEN, who's actively trying to distance herself from her reaper persona and who has proven herself to be problematic when it comes to collabs. There's a reason the JPs just laugh at her and the other HoloENs from her gen are starting to keep their distance. They could just say no, but then again, EN management is absolutely retarded and is cheering this clusterfuck on. The homos deserve better than Mori's hand-me-downs.

>>32466027
Hahahahahaha hope homofags enjoy your never ending Mori and Ollie collabs

>>32469153
>RTS
Also, I think hololive only has AoE2 perms on hand. Niji has perms for starcraft classic but no one has ever played multi on stream.

Finally, u forgot to mention League of Legends :^)

So Mori just had a drinking stream and in 4 hours she's gonna have a collab in Valorant, a game that requires subsecond reaction, despite being shit at FPS games even when she's sober? Is she gonna cancel this? Is this gonna be another stream where she fails to do anything and just shouts randomly? I kinda wanna see it but I also don't wanna see it.

>>32472193
>another stream where she fails to do anything and just shouts randomly?
Isn't that her entire brand at this point?

>>32469199
In other words, literally every other girl said no. We scared them after the Kronii shit. That means there's still hope.

>>32471724
I've seen all of their collabs with Mori, and they've all been perfectly fine. Generally, the consensus seems to be that they're an improvement over her usual solo content since she has something new to engage with and doesn't fall back on the same jokes as often. The furry art one she did with Magni was genuinely good stuff, and I don't usually care for art streams.

HoloENs from outside her gen seem perfectly happy to collab with both her and Tempus, and the ones from her gen don't seem interested in Tempus at all aside from maybe Ame, so I don't see how the association with her is an issue?

Only Axel speaks Japanese, and he's already collabing with StarsJP pretty regularly, so there's no real reason for them to worry about HoloJP at this point either.

Fuck why does mori have to ruin the tempus boys also.

>>32472237
She also talks about shrek, adam sandler and does goofy and sher--oh for fuck's sake she's gonna do that sheriff voice, isn't she?

>>32472758
you homobeggars deserve nothing more

>>32469922
I hope Axel gets to fuck Nodoka. He deserves it after staying away from Hololive collabs

>>32472733
Funny how she seems to be trying to prop the boys up by collabing with them, but in practice in the collabs THEY end propping HER up from her solo content.

>>32472758
Because you don't speak up enough about it

>>32472796
>oh for fuck's sake she's gonna do that sheriff voice, isn't she?
It's got to be at least a year since I last subjected myself to Mori content and I can still hear it. I guess she really does live in my head.

>>32472814
The only thing I begged for is for tempus to be left alone

>>32466027
They took no lesson from the first collab.

>>32472193
As a deadbeat I can tell you there is gonna be zero difference in her performance between drunk and sober. See the OW collab where hours in she still hasn't noticed the damage fall-off and is still playing Reaper like a sniper.

>>32472733
If you don't see how she's the issue, then I don't know what to tell you. Also, the weird thing is, I see other homofans from /MANS/ gushing about how the homos are gonna be the best EN gen in other threads, but so far, they're only leeching off the drama that collabing with the HoloEN menheras produces. They could've been the first homogen to earn their own success, but looks like even management and their own "fans" are trying to sabotage them.

To me the most annoying part is how EN went from having barely any collabs because
>we are busy
>different timezones
>we just like solo streams
>we don't want to bother other members
to having multiple collabs a week WITH the guys. Like, i don't even care that much that they're male, i'd be ass annoyed if say EN3 debuted and suddenly every week they had collabs too after two years of barely any interaction between members.

What the hell happened? Why is suddenly everyone free or open to collab after two years?

>>32466982
True.

>>32466027
Mori is super bad at games and can't even play along other people's jokes. If anything, she's the one that ruined the collab.

>>32467765
Leeching to save her dying dead channel

>>32474998
Uh, this collab hasn't even happened yet.

>>32468648
I don't want my whores collabing with your boys either.

What's this group called? The 5 horseman of the vtuber apocalypse?

>>32474998
unironically regis will carre the collab

>>32474618
Why would you want more collabs? That means there attentions is taken away from you. Collabs every once in a while is fine. When you can't talk to your oshi because she collabs too often is the real problem.

Mori and Ollie are really trying their damn hardest to turn Hololive into Nijisanji.

>>32466027
Yea I'm done with unity. Not gonna keep supporting this Niji shit. I'll just stick to the few girls I still like and ignore the rest.

>>32466027
fucking nijified

>>32474618
It's not EN, It's Mori and Baelz. Simple answer is because they want to interact with dudes because one craves penis(Bae) and the other wants to fundamentally change Hololive (Mori).

>>32466027
doesn't mori suck ass at fps games?

>>32466027
>mori bails on the collab with gura, causing the entire collab to just not happen
>streams the next day with tempus just to spite gura
jesus christ, what the fuck is happening in holoEN

>>32466217
What is the big issue with collabs?

>>32466912
Omega is disappointed at how he turned out to be the runt. (Because he's THE protagonist, get it?)

>>32466027
the whores of babylon and 2 twinks.

>>32474618
I'm beginning to believe that most of the EN girls unironically hate each other and the ones who can at least tolerate each other want to collab and are willing to collab with the boys as well.

>>32475765
Safe to say at least some of them think mori is retarded. Most likely candidates who had enough of mori's shit are gura and kiara. Then there's ina who'd rather collab with JPs or do solo content because she can't be bothered to go through another awkward myth collab. Kiara on the other hand can collab with anyone (despite her grating voice) but she always has to carry the conversation because half of them are autistic. Myth's unity was a...myth. Early on they were simply forced into a situation to collab/interact with each other because they had no one else to collab with aside from few JP senpai and since then they have definitely drifted apart.
Council seems to be more chill with each other but they probably see themselves more like individual streamers rather than members of a strong group. I can't blame any of the girls for wanting to collab with Tempus. They're new, their humor is different and men simply tend to rub off on women differently, so it's a new experience which unfortunately has caused some unnecessary drama and could have been handled more professionally. HoloEN3 may be able to save the day for EN but if not, then it's probably gonna get worse.

>>32475627
>Runt
>Had the highest subs equal to Vesper before collabs
His sc income is highest too I think because oil baronesses keep giving him 500 dollar superchats and baiting him by calling him short in those supers.

>>32478074
He was the highest before debut.
After debut, he's the runt
Then his sub count started to incline again after leeching

>>32470740
Magni purposely played shit games right after debut to filter his audience

>>32478180
I don't think Altares ever dipped below Axel's even once. Hard to be a runt when there's someone lower.

>>32478370
Whatever he's still a leech

>>32478424
If that's what makes you happy on the inside
>streams at jp prime time doing his own thing and not giving a shit
>forced to accept omegas mandated collabs
>is at least able to bring the bantz and can just deflect haters and any women that get offended by it

>>32478074
As far as I know, Vesper is still at the top for SC income. Altare is probably passing Magni for second now though.

>>32478570
I can let Vesper and Magni slide because they pulled 7k right at the start of their debut. Blue boy was a 2k shitter before the girls saved him

Something I have noticed is that in these male colabs the girls are able to express sides of themselves that they normally don't get to. So I get it really I think the split in EN for the future (when the boys stop being shiny new toys to play with) is girls who were mostly socialized in mixed or male heavy environments colabing with the boys since it allows them to express parts of themselves which are "distasteful" in female spaces and the girls who were socialized in primarily female spaces who feel perfectly comfortable being their full selves in female spaces who mostly won't. (lack of father figures falls on the colab friendly side and asocial autistic traits will lean towards the not colab side)
Basically Tempus gives an escape from the heavily "girly" atmosphere that naturally comes with female only spaces and the girls who need that break will colab with them.
Also again as a reminder Vesper is not hardware tech support for EN so you can tell who is communicating with him behind the scenes based upon if it takes them a bit to get their computers fixed.

>>32479294
wouldnt you naturally be more comfortable around a group solely composed of your own sex, when there is no serious intrasexual competition?

>>32479004
Ran by the numbers and yeah you're right, Altare is 2nd now Nowa still 1st.

>>32468383
They already collab with each other nearly everyday, sometimes multiple times a day

>>32466027
Why doesn't Mori play these kinds of FPS games with Ame or her other genmates? Why is she colabbing more with males than with Myth?

>>32479597
Are your comfortable with exposing your emotional vulnerabilities to your bros? Or are you afraid that they'll call you a sissy overemotional faggot?

>>32479820
My closest bros? Yeah, and they'll either tell me that I'm being a dumb cunt and that I need my life sorted and advise me on how to do that or just spring me back up with bantz till I'm chill again.
Strayan way of doing things, simple as.

>>32466027
Altare, Magni and Kobo for kino
Mori and Ollie for laugh backtrack
It won't be this bad

If you have such a problem with Mori, why don't you just rape and kill her?

>>32474618
It's just Mori and Bae who seems to now want to collab all the time. Kobo just wants to collab with Ragus. Axel doesn't collab outside Tempus much because he's busier than the others since he's recording songs while the other boys are still doing voice lessons and training.

>>32479730
Others have reached the velocity needed to leave Mori's orbit and are getting the fuck out while they still can. However, Tempus are new to this and they're being pulled in without knowing what's coming for them. You can't blame them because Mori is massive (in all sorts of ways).

>>32479294
Maybe for the tomboys, probably not so much otherwise.

>>32479820
more comfortable than with a group of women, at any rate. the boys might call you a fag, but wouldnt hold it against you. the women would comfort you but instantly think less of you for being vulnerable

>>32479597
I can't stand being around men. They're all annoying faggots without a shred of empathy.

>>32479294
Mori seems to like hanging with dudes much more than anyone else, like she was hanging out with the trash taste hosts all the time back then instead of getting to know her coworkers better. I don't really see how she acts all that different in male collabs though, but she does bounce off them better.

>>32480182
they can be, if they are young idiots or around women. the dynamic changes if its just a group of guys

>>32466761
It's pretty early over there right now, I'd imagine his timezone prevents some collabs

>>32479597
For the most part, but it does tend to foster certain expectations that if you feel you cannot fully meet can be exhausting. Especially if the environment tends to flow in a certain way.
For HoloEN's case I think its really clear that a certain hierarchy has been formed around Gura (not as a negative per say but that this is how it is) as the "apex" and so attempting to emulate and express traits seen as Guralike are implicitly encouraged by the social environment. This works for people like Mumei and Fauna who while doing their own things are able to emulate certain aspects and feel accepted.
On the other hand someone like Mori cannot be someone like Gura and actively has to fake her Guralike qualities most of the time and so is liberated my the males who she can be herself around.
Basically in HoloEN but happenstance Gura became the template for The Stacy and so Mori by hjer more masculine hobbies and upbringing has become the weird alt chick that is stoned all weekend is kind of obnoxious and calls the popular girls "posers" and the like.
For someone like Kronii she would be the girl that has a bunch of unpopular hobbies that she keeps suppressed to fit in who is given a taste of the part of herself she was denying and is now suffering social blowback as a result intensified by her inability to socially navigate the situation.
I also don't meant these terms as a negative only as an analogy

>>32480182
for that to happen they actually have to love and care about you
a rarity i know

>>32480182
That's why men valorize war and sports. It allows us to bond in the face of a shared enemy in a way that due to the qualities inherent in masculinity are a risk outside of it.

Kobo is a little slut

>>32480788
I don't care.

>>32467228
Nice story. Too bad it's your whores who are forcing the boys to collab with them.

>>32466912
It's not coincidence. They're trying to raise Regis numbers, he struggled to get 1k CCV today, if you guys are unaware. It's having the opposite effect, though.

>>32466761
Respect for not collabing with whores

>>32466912
>>32482336
The boys have a weird setup when it comes to colabs.
If its their 4 player game (Axel with raft, Versper with zomboid) they get the Pov view
If its within the gen it goes to whoever is the weaker member in the colab
If its outside of the gen it defaults to Altare since he is the leader and has put the most hours into learning how everything works

>>32482766
thats logical desu

>>32482766
>since he is the leader
That's stupid of the management, they should put the most acceptable member to represent tempus.

>>32482336
1k ccv at jp primetime.
He's never going to get high numbers unless he streams around the time of NA or EU hours.
Just looking at his past streams he hovers between 2-3k when they aren't jp primetime.

Mori trying to play Valorant is going to be absolutely pitiful

>>32483073
That's unironically Altare too though? He knows how to lead and coordinate a collab. Vesper defaults to being quiet unless someone talks to him which leads to dead air, Magni has his moments of being absolutely gay and Axel's a dumb dingo unless he's speaking in JP

>>32466912
He's the guy who join just to fuck your oshi

>>32472837
Ironically enough, the rules placed by hololive allow him to fuck the other talents but absolutely forbid him from fucking any staff

>>32466217
Instead of preparing stream content by themselves, they just need to join a collab. It's the new step of lazy content aka Nijification step 2

>>32483312
What i mean acceptable is acceptable and cool for male holofags. They don't like Altare and Magni since they're "faggots"

>>32475613
Because that's not what people subscribed for, especially if collabing wasn't their norm. If a vtuber does solo content and people subscribe to them, it's because they want to see more of that vtuber and no one else. Collabs are fine once in a while, but if too many collabs keep happening with no solo content, then people will start to get irritated.

>>32483936
They think Altare's whole psycho / yandere thing is cool enough, it works in collabs too as bantz.
Magni, I'll give to you
Vesper again goes dead quiet
Axel I've only seen his jp Collab for the apex tourney. I didn't see the kobo one for valorant.

Enjoying my vengeance?
Gura will remember this!
t. Darth Gura

>>32479597
Do I really have to post all those things where women only groups end up as giant shitshows

>>32484335
>They think Altare's whole psycho / yandere thing is cool enough
Doubt it
It reeks the same Nijisisters cope for Ike

>>32484455
oh im well aware of how women are, it still just blows my mind every time i see it happen because the difference between the sexes is so stark

Is it time to look at the indie scene

>>32485484
Come to the whore side, lies aren't allowed.

>>32466027
>all this seething
holy based

>>32466027
>Mags silent
What's up with that?

>>32466761

>>32469922
>>32486048
rubbing one out to both the management cumsluts for my boy

>>32484103
Speak for yourself. My oshi bounces off amazingly well of others and is having more fun than in solo streams. Also, all groupings have different dynamics and different styles, so the content is more diverse.

>>32491872
If your oshi isn't entertaining on her own then she's shit.

>>32492008
ASMR and unicorn-baiting aren't entertaining. I'm not saying your oshi does that, I'm just laying out some ground rules for definitions.

>>32492100
I find that to be incorrect. Appealing to homobeggars, outsiders and 51%ers is significantly worse than any ASMR stream, and certainly far, far more damaging in the long run.

>>32479820
Showing emotional vulnerability to bros leads to them offering advice and sometimes even helping you through your troubles. Showing emotional vulnerability to women results in empty words of encouragement while their pussies dry up like a desert

>>32475611
>jesus christ, what the fuck is happening in holoEN
unicorns suiciding because hololive managers see the growth in NijiEN and are trying to counter it but it doesn't work because the most active Hololive EN fans are incel unicorns.

>>32492701
>the growth in NijiEN
Heh.

>>32475611
She isn’t just spiting Gura, this is her true form. Ollie and Mori cannot help themselves when it comes to wanting to corrupt, and this gives them the perfect means to do that.

>>32492946
>Darlings
That legit ruined my mood. In the entire company the only one with a solid record to use that word freely have graduated and is doing much better as independent now.

>>32468935
Aoe2 is kino. Gta online. Amongus. Even the damn gartic phone.

>>32492946
tempus was a reaction to luxiem.
on a whole NijiEN is seeing more growth because the west has a huge normie population that doesn't really get unicorns.

Go to otakucon and try to defend why males and females can't collab in Hololive when most of the people there are from both genders who mingle together because they have the same hobbies.

>>32493522
>try to defend why males and females can't collab in Hololive
I really want to know why retards think every opinion they have needs to be validated by the masses. You can like Holo and not be a sperg incapable of knowing how to hide your powerlevel.

>>32494063
I'm just pointing out that unicorns are being retarded. The people pushing for male collabs aren't the livers but management. They want to make more money catering to the larger weeb normie demographic.
You keep blaming individual livers although they're being told what to do.

>>32494379
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>livers
It's easy, SO easy to falseflag. Why can't you ever stay in character? Does Noor really pay so little?

>>32494503
who's noor

>>32494766
One of the best designs Niji had and wasted after they axed a branch.

>>32479820
My bros have always understood my moments of emotional vulnerability because we're all flawed humans and know that few in this world will ever open their mind's eye to our microcosm of problems, so, yes.

>>32480105 and >>32492415 are correct

>>32494379
>livers
luxiemsister your falseflagging reps...

>>32493522
Wrong. NijiEN grew cuz they pandered to Chinese fujos. Those fujos also become angry when Luxiem collab with female.
Many think Tempus is made to fight against luxiem, but all they do is collabing with women and not pandering to fujos. So the true goal of creating tempus is nothing but turning holo EN into Niji EN 2.0
What's the point of Nijification? The success of holo is depend on their talent, so talent have larger power than management. By making company structure to become like Niji, management become absolute and talent become disposable. Therefore talent can't go against management anymore.

>>32466576
Everyone is just fine stfu faggot

Gura is going to kill al the homos and every girl that collabed with them

I hate these collabs as much as the next person in this thread, but is this truly gonna have any negative impact in the long run? Right now I'm just pissed because I was excited about Tempus being only boys doing stupid shit and Mori doing so many collabs looks forced, especially when Altare said he didn't felt ready to collab with HoloEn

>>32474618
It really seems like they’re trying to make them part of Hololive.
Tempus will never be a male idol unit unless they heavily cut back on these collabs.
Axel’s trying to preserve their image but when 75% of your group collabs at least once a week with girls, they’ll never be able to make their own identity.
Mori, Bae, Ollie, Kobo, and the three guys might as well be Niji members because there’s not much difference other than name.
I’m pretty surprised that even people that don’t care about the separation or cgdct haven’t started questioning why the girls are collabing so much when they have never done this with any of the girls.

>>32502167
Yes, because the male collaborators have gained critical mass in HoloEN. Male collabs and HoloEN becoming Nij-EN 2.0 is pretty much guaranteed absent continued blowback.

>>32466027
Who is going to top frag VALORANT GODS AND CHADS WHO ACTUALLY PLAY THIS SHIT AND DON'T CARE ABOUT THE WIGGER?

>>32502167
I think it depends on what you would consider negative.
I personally enjoy Hololive’s all female culture and dynamic so it’s important to me that Holo retains that culture and image.
If the collabs start to die off and the usual suspects limit them to like once a month max and at least 60% of the ENs pretty much ignore them, they won’t significantly impact the culture.
If the current trend continues or more ENs get involved then they’ll start to lose that all female culture and image. People will associate them with the guys rather than being two clearly distinct groups. It will effectively be like guys integrating into an actual idol unit which would obviously change the dynamics, culture, feel ect of the group.
That’s the kind of change that would negatively impact Hololive.

>>32502167
I mean the boys still do that like a shit ton.
Just after the colab with the girls they did a project zomboid stream and it was fucking kino.
Or yesterday when they did the L4D2 versus.
They still pump out the good shit but by being content machines the good shit gets overshadowed by the stand out drama.

>>32507345
Yeah the boys pretty much play together on stream almost everyday, but catalog niggers that want to drama bait about female collabs wouldn't know since they don't actually watch them

>>32466298
Because they don't know any other game this smells like Mori's or Ollie's idea

>>32472376
>we

>>32472758
But it's the only times Mori has been tolerable. She seems more relaxed and herself, and not forcing banter with a bunch of fake women

>>32469153
>>32468935
>>32469020

space station 13.
dwarf fortress.

literally any old classical open source developed game as well

>>32466027
I'mma be honest here chief.
Mori just ruins every collab. Just by the amount of references she makes of Trash Taste. One of the big reasons why I stopped watching Chad cast after episode two. Cuz mori just can't come up with original good topics. She has to recycle something out of trash taste to start a conversation. Mori should've been replaced with Baelz or Reine.

>>32496704
I actually think that Tempus+ collaborators feels more like what a proper NijiEn should have been instead of the clusterfuck that we got. They feel more like NijiJP but English than NijiEn

>>32466027
whelp

>>32466027
SHE FUCKING BOUGHT A FUCKING MONKEY