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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>32411038Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022>>32140520Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time>>32144719August 2022 tables>>32379748>>32228769 >>32229568 >>32232534 >>32233601
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>118,899: Ayame (Hololive)>70,948: Botan (Hololive)>43,980: Marine (Hololive)>38,842: Runa (VSPO)>37,967: Subaru (Hololive)>26,365: Subaru (Hololive)>26,234: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>25,594: Pekora (Hololive)>21,180: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>15,619: Towa (Hololive)>14,791: Nowa (Holostars)>13,892: Koyori (Hololive)>13,721: Alban (Nijisanji)>13,105: Kobo (Hololive)>13,056: Mio (Hololive)>12,534: Miko (Hololive)>11,984: Gatchman (Indie)>11,920: Polka (Hololive)>11,694: Kanata (Hololive)>11,508: Korone (Hololive)>10,937: Luna (Hololive)>10,927: Nose (VSPO)>10,906: Watame (Hololive)>10,895: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,712: Toko (Nijisanji)>10,402: Hal (Neo Porte)
How do we save gooruh?
Gura knew she couldn't beat Enna's karaoke, so she had to "reschedule" to secure Gold another day
>>32411038god I fapped to this guy's shit a ton
>>32410941Don't be a sore loser
>>32411038/news/ roundup for 03-09-2022>>32373322Recent clip numbers>>32358620>>32358651>>32358834>>32358863
Well, hopefully it will create hype for the return/revenge episode if Gura ever gets around to doing it.
>>32411159>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive>PER STREAMER2x: Ayame1x: Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY153x: Hololive83x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER30x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>dumb niggers say the stream doesn't countso do the fuwa streams not count and holo wins gold for july?
>>32411159>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive>PER STREAMER2x: Ayame1x: Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY154x: Hololive82x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER31x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
Ennakek went silent after her karaoke only 18k.what happened?
>>32411038>September eventsHololive>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)/ Botan new outfit >4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)Nijisanji>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)>9) Splatoon 3 release>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)
why doesn't vrabi track phase connect?
Bleedout Anon, technically that stream dropped 10,000 according to VRabi, so keep that in mind
>>32411003>Clearly put a lot of effort into itClearly not
>>32411292what do you expect from nijiniggers
20k getto!
>no tweet or any announcementsGura is legitimately retardedI switched to watching Enna and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Gura tourists did the same.
>>32411196So we all agree that part 2 will not count for a second gold, right sisters? The medal farming strat of holols is unfair
>Enna 20kHonestly, i'm just happy with this, don't care if it is more or less than Council or IRyS.
>>32411038list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **places to end up for these girls include>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri
>>32411270I don't think revenge streams really work for HoloEN. It'll still do good, but not 31k good.
>>32411380Japanese people are racist, I want it on there too though. The only way we can see it for now is either playboard or to actually go on her channel
>>32411475The only sane Enna fan
>>32411292>dumb nigger actually biting the baitYou are part of the problem too, retard
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1566234254157176832
>>32411475It's a good number. The person trying to pick a fight with Councilrys is a dick.
>>32411464This stream wont even count since we all agreed Tally streams should be minimum 1 hour long
I unironically feel depressed for Gura. What a horrible string of events for an otherwise great stream idea>Prepare ahead of time for a collab, announcing it to the public so they know>2 people bounce on the day it's to happen>Still go through with it, alert fans multiple times of when it's going live>Have to delay stream>Finally stream is a go>Models end up blurry and choppy during zoom in>Still push through, everyone is having a great time>Viewers pouring in, Gura getting her best numbers in months>Climbing its way up to 31k and beyond>OBS dies and kills the VOD before it even hits 40 minutesLike holy fuck, I'm so sorry for you Gura. You don't deserve this mess
>>32411380It's not Japanese. The author is a Jap and doesn't care about gaijin stuff, we're lucky Holo/Niji branches get included only by association.
>>32411453https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1566234254157176832Away with you Ennafag>inb4 moves goalposts
>>32411038August SCGroup>Luxiem $181,839>Council $132,871>Noctyx $98,926>Tempus $85,105>Myth $65,564>ILUNA $54,856>Obsydia $38,343>LazuLight $33,990>Ethyria $21,205>Hope $18,889total>Nijisanji EN $429,159>Hololive EN $217,324>Holostars EN $85,105
>>32411564Imagine if this stream gets cripple gold kek
>>32411159>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive>PER STREAMER2x: Ayame1x: Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY229x: Hololive9x: Neo Porte4x: Indie3x: VSPO1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER46x: Pekora27x: Miko18x: Aqua16x: Subaru13: Marine9x: Hololive8x: Gura, Hal7x: Suisei6x: Korone, Mio5x: Flare, Kanata, Noel, Okayu4x: Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Koyori, Mel, Polka2x: Aki, Botan, Fubuki, Lamy, Laplus, Lui, Mori, Nene, Shion1x: AI, AZKi, Gatchman, Haachama, Hinano, Iroha, Kaela, Luna, Matsuri, Mikeneko, Mumei, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Ui, Watame, Yui, Zeta
>>32411564>boogaloo boys referenceYAB
>>32411453https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1566234254157176832
>>32411292Nijisanji lies as they breath.
>>32411583not like this nijisisters, i can't believe we lost july too...
>>32411380After I sent a email back when NeoPorte got their new chuubas they were added quite fast, but my Phase got ignored so yeah. They are not going to add any chuubas from EN corps
>>32411038Watch time January>ホロライブEnglish 3,626,369 (585.5時間) 215枠 Hololive EN (585.5hrs, 215 streams)>NIJISANJI EN 3,174,294 (1438.6時間) 396枠 Nijisanji EN (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)February>NIJISANJI EN 3,972,676 (1264.1時間, 336枠, 平均3,143人) Nijisanji EN (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)>ホロライブEnglish 3,021,167 (439.3時間, 146枠, 平均6,878人) Hololive EN (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)March>NIJISANJI EN 6,283,717 (1892.4時間, 514枠, 平均3,320人) Nijisanji EN (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)>ホロライブEnglish 4,907,065 (615.4時間, 180枠, 平均7,974人) Hololive EN (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)April>NIJISANJI EN 6,449,716 (1983.9時間, 503枠, 平均3,251人) Nijisanji EN (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)>ホロライブEnglish 3,886,364 (529.2時間, 177枠, 平均7,344人) Hololive EN (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)July>NIJISANJI EN 6,285,678>ホロライブEnglish 4,066,096
poor gura, at the end of the day her lack of preparation came to bite her in the ass
>>32411475Yeah this would normally be EN gold, but she had the bad luck of going against a Gura-hosted collab, despite how much absolutely scuffed that stream was
>>32411586Should have just done it with PNGs.
Axel just confirmed new debuts in October. EN3 in October.
>>32411586Gura's a lazy incompetent cunt
>>32411610Hope...
>>32411639based
>>32411583Salami botted golds are removed, too
I came to this thread because you faggots posted interesting financials and now I want to fuck a discount rabbit, I think this may have gone wrong at some point
>>32411038August total viewsIndividual>Mori (Hololive) 13,502,493------------------------------------------------------- 10M line>Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) 9,802,397>Gura (Hololive) 8,042,849------------------------------------------------------- 7.5M line>Luca (Nijisanji) 7,069,420>Mysta (Nijisanji) 6,762,919>Vox (Nijisanji) 6,544,552------------------------------------------------------- 5M line>Fauna (Hololive) 4,626,355>Selen (Nijisanji) 4,604,843>Bae (Hololive) 4,196,093------------------------------------------------------- 4M line>Ike (Nijisanji) 3,857,840>Pomu (Nijisanji) 3,763,617>Ren (Nijisanji) 3,741,969>Shu (Nijisanji) 3,740,288>Mumei (Hololive) 3,383,634>Enna (Nijisanji) 3,339,848>Kiara (Hololive) 3,236,162>Elira (Nijisanji) 3,033,218>IRyS (Hololive) 3,000,038------------------------------------------------------- 3M line>Uki (Nijisanji) 2,876,944>Kronii (Hololive) 2,833,681>Amelia (Hololive) 2,821,840>Alban (Nijisanji) 2,816,645>Ina (Hololive) 2,542,549>Finana (Nijisanji) 2,398,105>Luxiem Ch Official (Nijisanji) 2,295,007>Millie (Nijisanji) 2,189,983>Petra (Nijisanji) 2,150,060>Scarle (Nijisanji) 2,132,744>Nina (Nijisanji) 2,083,125>Yugo (Nijisanji) 2,043,066>Rosemi (Nijisanji) 2,040,229------------------------------------------------------- 2M line>Maria (Nijisanji) 1,955,693>Noir (Holostars) 1,935,689>Kyo (Nijisanji) 1,910,439>Sonny (Nijisanji) 1,649,795>Regis (Holostars) 1,543,365>Aster (Nijisanji) 1,483,797>Magni (Holostars) 1,423,374>Hololive English Official (Hololive) 1,378,577>Sana (Hololive) 1,278,917>Fulgur (Nijisanji) 1,237,217>Axel (Holostars) 1,160,445>Aia (Nijisanji) 1,036,292------------------------------------------------------- 1M line>Reimu (Nijisanji) 807,745>Holostars English Official (Holostars) 151,418Group>Myth 30,145,893>Luxiem 27,975,019>Council 16,318,680>ILUNA 12,260,934>Noctyx 10,623,667>LazuLight 9,194,940>Obsydia 8,795,132>Ethyria 8,420,701>Tempus 6,062,873>Hope 3,000,038total>Nijisanji EN 77,270,393 (With official ch 89,367,797)>Hololive EN 49,464,611 (With official ch 50,843,188)>Holostars EN 6,062,873 (With official ch 6,214,291)
>>32411800Why are you trying so hard to get us to click on your 3 view?
>>32411586Why is OBS so shitty?Can't they use something else?
>>32411619Do you seriously believe Vox ASMR/Karaoke could get 30k?
>>32411740I mean she said she's going to go on for another hour. Technically it is impossible, if unlikely.
>>32411800kek no.
>>32411583Why nijinnigers like to moving goals
this place so peaceful after enna got low number. where are ennakek that shit this place before stream?
>>32411583Hmm, strange. Let's start digging through the golds
>>32411038August superchatsNijisanji>1. Oliver Evans - $67,349>2. Saegusa Akina - $65,832>3. Vox Akuma - $62,882>4. Kenmochi Toya - $43,498>5. Luca Kaneshiro - $43,282>6. Alban Knox - $40,206>7. Ike Eveland - $38,108>8. Kagami Hayato - $33,110>9. Watarai Hibari - $31,724>10. Fuwa Minato - $28,938>11. Kuzuha - $25,904>12. Fushimi Gaku - $24,672>13. Mysta Rias - $23,324>14. Selen Tatsuki - $23,092>15. Kaida Haru - $22,259>16. Lain Paterson - $21,003>17. Machita Chima - $20,476>18. Seraph Dazzlegarden - $19,939>19. Yuki Chihiro - $19,413>20. Scarle Yonaguni - $18,995>21. Sonny Brisko - $18,876>22. Pomu Rainpuff - $17,867>23. Lauren Iroas - $17,760>24. Fulgur Ovid - $17,629>25. Fura Kanato - $17,061>26. Shirayuki Tomoe - $16,265>27. Hyakumentenbara Salome - $15,590>28. Lize Helesta - $15,202>29. Shu Yamino - $14,243>30. Kanae - $13,598>31. Elira Pendora - $13,365>32. Leos Vincent - $12,987>33. Uki Violeta - $12,634>34. Shikinagi Akira - $11,723>35. Hoshikawa Sara - $10,943>36. Shiina Yuika - $10,392>37. Ex Albio - $10,074>38. Yugo Asuma - $9,594>39. Maria Marionette - $9,303>40. Ponto Nei - $8,814>41. Petra Gurin - $8,587>42. Aia Amare - $8,101>43. Genzuki Tojiro - $8,017>44. Inui Toko - $7,770>45. Nijisanji - $7,671>46. Joe Rikiichi - $7,593>47. Suzuka Utako - $7,535>48. Kyo Kaneko - $7,309>49. Honma Himawari - $7,110>50. Ren Zotto - $6,989>51. Enna Alouette - $6,861>52. Yamagami Karuta - $6,804>53. Suzuki Masaru - $6,760>54. Dola - $6,731>55. Rosemi Lovelock - $6,664>56. Shizuka Rin - $6,565>57. Millie Parfait - $6,455>58. Kurusu Natsume - $6,454>59. Mika Melatika - $5,979>60. Yukishiro Mahiro - $5,704
>>32411886>>Gura (Hololive) 8,042,849with only 10 streams?fucking bitch
>>32411886>>32411737>>32411639>>32411610>>32411500>>32411375>>32411302>>32411284>>32411159>>32411057What's the point of spamming this shit every single thread?
>>32411800It's me, I'm in Holostars PH.
>>32411935She said she's not feeling too well so she'll probably end the singing part early.
>>32411925His karaoke will be big, but I think it counts for tomorrow. Won't be 60k big tho.
>>32411925Boyfriend ASMR has a chance for 30k+. Karaoke starts at 1AM JST so it counts on next day. Back to back cripple gold for box.
>>32412015Hololive>1. Houshou Marine - $64,205>2. Yukihana Lamy - $61,281>3. Usada Pekora - $57,339>4. Shirogane Noel - $48,888>5. Hakui Koyori - $47,277>6. Tokoyami Towa - $43,485>7. Shiranui Flare - $40,206>8. Ceres Fauna - $39,277>9. Natsuiro Matsuri - $34,024>10. Ouro Kronii - $32,281>11. Nanashi Mumei - $31,101>12. Sakamata Chloe - $30,398>13. Sakura Miko - $30,329>14. Hakos Baelz - $30,212>15. Momosuzu Nene - $28,502>16. Kaela Kovalskia - $28,444>17. Omaru Polka - $25,881>18. Mori Calliope - $25,067>19. Shishiro Botan - $24,382>20. Minato Aqua - $24,148>21. Amane Kanata - $23,592>22. Tsunomaki Watame - $22,606>23. Inugami Korone - $21,691>24. Kazama Iroha - $20,409>25. Takanashi Kiara - $18,896>26. IRyS - $18,889>27. Oozora Subaru - $18,307>28. Nekomata Okayu - $18,109>29. Ookami Mio - $16,584>30. Hololive - $15,949>31. Takane Lui - $13,368>32. Vestia Zeta - $13,109>33. Murasaki Shion - $12,164>34. Shirakami Fubuki - $10,446>35. Watson Amelia - $9,684>36. Himemori Luna - $9,055>37. Gawr Gura - $7,364>38. Laplus Darknesss - $7,209>39. Aki Rosenthal - $6,029>40. Akai Haato - $5,669>41. Kobo Kanaeru - $5,653>42. Kureiji Ollie - $5,392>43. Pavolia Reine - $5,307>44. Hoshimachi Suisei - $5,257>45. Ninomae Ina'nis - $4,553>46. Roboco - $3,857>47. Moona Hoshinova - $2,931>48. Anya Melfissa - $2,480>49. Tokino Sora - $2,199>50. Yuzuki Choco - $1,711>51. Yozora Mel - $1,582>52. AZKi - $1,531>53. Ayunda Risu - $1,042>54. Airani Iofifteen - $875>55. Nakiri Ayame - $0
>Big Brain Games every weekend>stream dies every weekend>Guaranteed free gold every weekendGenius
this is your chance Nijisis fire up those view farms and bots, you wouldn't want you lord lose to gura wouldn't you. but of course unless you kindred are too poor to do so
>>32412049Stfu newfag
ENNA 40KKKKKKKKKGURA WHO ??????
>>32411879That's your fault for being retarded
>>32412015Others>1. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $36,073>2. kson (Vshojo) - $29,480>3. Matsunaga Iori (Riot Music) - $21,712>4. Chiyoura Chiyomi (Aogiri High School) - $20,889>5. Kurikoma Komaru (Aogiri High School) - $19,397>6. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $18,904>7. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $17,612>8. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $16,885>9. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $15,394>10. Rumi (independent) - $15,264>11. Shitagai Nora (Sinsogumi) - $14,055>12. Nekozeno Shin (Noripro) - $14,048>13. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $13,702>14. Suou Patra (Honeystrap/774) - $12,663>15. Axel Syrios (Holostars) - $12,516>16. Average (independent) - $12,272>17. Mikan-sensei (independent) - $11,693>18. Tachibana Hinano (VSPO) - $9,987>19. Oshiro Mashiro (Aogiri High School) - $9,981>20. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $9,942>21. Hoshino Supika (Masquerade) - $9,371>22. Ashizawa Saki (Riot Music) - $9,302>23. Otodama Tamako (Aogiri High School) - $9,065>24. Shirayuki Reid (Neo Porte) - $9,027>25. Ogiya Milk (Sinsogumi) - $8,737>26. Ikinone Tomeru (Sinsogumi) - $8,733>27. Reglush Lionheart (Noripro) - $8,536>28. Domyoji Cocoa (Riot Music) - $8,477>29. Nemoto Nagi (DearStage) - $7,700>30. Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect) - $7,396>31. Yamaguro Nekuro (Aogiri High School) - $7,271>32. Gatchman V (independent) - $7,243>33. Asano Sisters (independent) - $6,996>34. Aizawa Ema (VSPO) - $6,920>35. Inaba Haneru (Animare/774) - $6,790>36. Nana Live (Star Spectre) - $6,773>37. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $6,746>38. Koinoya Mai (Propro) - $6,554>39. Hanabusa Lisa (VSPO) - $6,307>40. Maemi Tenma (Phase Connect) - $6,081>41. Hanakumo Rin (Propro) - $6,072>42. Inari Iroha (Noripro) - $6,068>43. Shishigami Leona (Re:AcT) - $6,039>44. Ooiwato Ichika (VASE) - $5,659>45. Maisaki Berry (independent) - $5,590>46. Kanade Mimi (independent) - $5,520>47. Gabu Rielu (Aogiri High School) - $5,437>48. Manjichan (independent) - $5,413>49. Kagura Mea (independent) - $5,305>50. Senba Kurono (independent) - $5,187
>>32411475Is this her first unarchived karaoke? I think most of the ones she did before are archived. 20k is damn good for Enna without a relay funnel.
>>32411935She probably got some tourists from Gura ending, since there's like no other EN girl streaming now (YT actually recommended her stream to me)But there's no way she's gonna beat 30k
>>32412133dyrbihis tentacle rape ASMR only got 13k
>>32412256Vesper would be 8th in Nijisanji and 9th in Hololive.
>>32412133https://vrabi.net/video/d24j0EliJgsHis bathtub ASMR got 24k in his peak.I don't think this one will get a number that much bigger than usual.
>>32411879I too can only get hard to big numbers.
>>32412049i repost the daily and monthly tallies for the next few threads for people who just woke up or got back from work (and as an anchorpost for any late lewds)other stuff is the other regular op who just wants to spam pics from his feet folder
>>32411586Should use zoom and stream in their own cpu, only put camera angle on avatar
From what some anons have said, the OBS is crap but does Gura knows that? Would be funny if she does the same thing next time. Feel like the chumbuds are just having disappointment for dinner lately.
lol https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1566236344405307392
>Why can't i get 20k on karaoke?
>>32411586Gura should move to JP, they have better Internet there
>>32412288Think it's the first one after Luxiem blew up at least, so might as well be.
>>32411475Really well done by Enna, and for a first time viewer, I enjoyed her singing. I usually shit on her here because Ennafag keeps shitting up this thread, but she deserves all the success.
>>32412471>OBS is crap but does Gura knows that?Gura probably confused "Gwar" and "Gawr" all the time, she doesn't know shit about OBS other than "it make the stream go"
>>32412301Since when did YT's algorithm start reccing Niji females to Hololive watchers?
Enna getting 20k on her unarchived and the rest of nijiEN getting good numbers callings is a good sign that the branch is healthy despite what some niggers here say.
>>32412256Iori my beloved
>>32412479Holy fuck that’s embarrassing. Why are women so incompetent?
>>32412515>JP karaokeDo unarchived karaoke
>>32412515I can't believe I'm saying this, but Enna may actually have more raw talent than Irys. Surprised she was rejected for the Vsinger role.
Before stream>are you ready holokek for enna gold?after>20k is not badevery damn time lol
>>32412515FIx your fucking voice first you retardand get a better model
>>32412616Her unarchived don't really get much more anyway. Maybe 16k?
>>32412564>the rest of nijiEN getting good numbersElria got 3k with a huge ass collab and finana was practically 3view, the fuck do you mean "The rest got good numbers" outside of the usual boys
Vtubing is inclining
>>32412479>declines to provide any tech assistance to planned group streams>hey we'll tweet it for you tho
>>32412560Idk but my autoplay fucking bumped me to her after Gura's stream ended. i felt tainted
>>32412541kys ennafag, go back to your containment thread
>>32412638you mean>after>1 hour minimum for tally
>>32412479suprised this link wasn't cumpscare
Fun fact: with this stream, Enna just jumped straight from 3.1k and 2.9k (her last two unarchived Karaoke streams) to a whooping 20.7k (still rising), something rarely achieved even for HoloEN. And faggots try to claim NijiEN box didn't massively incline
So easy gura daily gold today?
>>32412638at least niji still has stream going, holoen? enjoy that orange dude SC reading lol
>>32412515Done too many unarchived karaokes at this point.This is Enna's first (or it might as well be her first)
>>32412638Just another "we are losing, but we are actually winning" cope.Expect more from now on since this is the year of Hololive.
>Finana ends stream as Pippa begins so people can't compare her today
>>32412560Probably because there were a bunch of people here watching both. It's how people got that 1view chumbuds groomed recommended in the algorithm.
>>32412734>events are 1000% better than regular streamslol
>>32412722>>32412638Irystokek malding
>>32412515Enna's a far better singer
>>32412734Luxiem saved the branch
>>32412734>box
>>32412592I will NOT watch your homosI will NOT watch your homosI will NOT watch your homosI will NOT watch your homosKill yourself NOW
>>32412734>Pomu 4k karaoke yesterday
>>32412133This was the last one he did back in May, when his ASMR got better numbers overall.
>>32412616>>32412696Her unarchived karaoke usually only get 14-16k (dropped as low as 11k once). So no, doing unarchived isn't enough. It's a matter of talent, the size of fanbase, and the size of the bos
>>32412770Nice. now they are moving another goalpost lmaooo
>>32412846DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE
>>32412734She was like the lowest performer in ethyria for a few months which is kind of hilarious
What the fuck did Bae mean by this
>>32412701Not their fault, Gura too lazy to do final check
No but seriously why the fuck did this whole thing even start in the first place, who the fuck is trying to make "Enna/IRyS" a thing when they've never even looked at each other once
>>32412623IRyS might have a slight edge in most JP songs but this isn't even close
>>32412868>>32412133And with last one, I mean last BF asmr.
Can Mori saves HoloEN today with her UNARCHIVED KARAOKE?
>>32412560youtube algorithm will recommended you a Niji tuber if you have a history watching them, in my case it direct me to some small indie chubas
>>32412697yeah some nijiEN streams flop by /#/ standards but they certainly have reach now compared to when they started. they have actual sustained growth as a branch
>>32412773This is Enna's 3rd, Holofriend. What are you talking about?(She got a big jump from previous two streams just few months ago - those two only got around 3k. People are finally checking NijiEN out and looks like they like it)
>>32412868wait fuck me my memory's bad but we've had the z since may?
>>32412933Enna schizo.
>>32412564Good joke. I'm waiting, Finana.
>>32412966It's a rebroadcast JP karaoke retard-bro
>>32412770Eh, I'll watch it. Axel seems like a decent guy, even if he's obviously inexperienced.
>>32412966>mori
>>32412933We have an Enna regular and a few IRyStocrats, and the Enna guy has been getting a little to enthusiastic lately, and the IRyS guys have always had small dog defense mode syndrome, so now false-flaggers are shitting it up trying to pit them against eachother
>>32412955I don't think I've heard IRyS do anything as well Enna's Chandelier sounded, JP or EN song.
>>32412966>japanese>rebroadcastnope
>>32412721gaslighting with 1 hour tally bullshit again
>>32412623Irys was chosen because she lives in Japan. The plan was to have her get big like Mori and get her own 3D and perform and sign to a big label. Unfortunately Irys doesn't give a fuck about any of that because she hates her model.
>>32412770
>>32413001Her last 2 unarchived karaokes were pre-Luxiem 8 months ago.
>>32412978They have growth, but I wouldn't say that it's "sustained growth" after iluna.It's "burst growth" more than "sustained growth," from what we've seen in datalogs so far. Bursts of growth if a gen hits, then dearths of growth after.
>no good streams onguess i gotta watch 3views.
>>32412846Not an unarchived>>32412831Yes, box. I will admit that part of those 20k are tourists or fans of other NijiEN members. Does that matter? It's the same for everyone's karaoke streams
>>32412933Schizo rrats back when irys debuted about how Enna auditioned for the spot and Irys got it over her.
>>32412479Not gonna lie, day after day this branch feels very much like a side project of a big game made by a small department to get some extra cash. People cant blame Cover if their talent doesnt even know the limit of the app nor care about streaming.
>>32413165Or you could go workout or learn a new language or skill.
>>32413165You can watch the twitch whore from the boysmell shitpost.
>>32413156Her last unarchived karaoke was in April (a really short one)
>>32413116It's not just thatIRyS is perfect as a living vocaloid - she can sing pretty much whatever garbage they throw her way and it'll always sound competent albeit soulless
>>32413165me waiting for Subaru
>>32413059you can see axel is the runt of tempus.but i really am sure he's gonna be a great chuuba in near future.
>>32413116IRYS is a lazy bitch, plain and simple. Mori is a bitch too but at least she's ambitious.
>>32413288https://vrabi.net/video/DLQCMgsGXc4????It's an April Fools stream. It's not even unarchived.
>>32412933You've never seen the IRyS anti-posts in the catalog which are followed up by Ennaschizo talking about how much better Enna is?
>>32411149future EN 4 I kneel
>>32413396>You've never seen [...] the catalogWhy the fuck would I look at threads in the catalog?Why would anyone do that?
>>32413371I don't think so. Corpo Vtubers rarely improve their content.
>>32413259You made me check twitch. HoloES when?
>>32413462You can't pretend to have standards while posting in this thread
>>32413462Like it or not, the catalog controls the narratives on this board.
>>32413477he promised he'll do one song cover each month, although i'm not sure how the fuck would he do that, but i'm optimistic.
>>32413546This place is easily better than 99% of the catalog threads, just because it's not as nice as most generals doesn't mean it isn't still significantly better than non-general threads
What do people use for writing Youtube analysis tools? Python?
>>32413494After KR
>>32413160Yeah, NijiEN is falling into the NijiJP trap.
>>32413494this channel gets embedded onto one of the biggest spanish anime pirating websites so probably only like 200 of those are real viewers
>>32413684they need to release EN3 first, then ID4, then JP7, lastly KR and ES.
>>32413748Kek, seriously? Can you show a screenshot of this?
>>32412000you can look at the fuwa kitsun graph they claimed was gold and disprove their bullshit easily
>>32413748Yeah looks like you're right, chat is extremely slow.
>>32413053>>32413098What's the point of rebroadcast stream?
gura...
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1566230610582159360She's so pathetic lads. How can you be doing this shit for 2 years and still fuck up so bad? Not to mention the stream was 15 minutes late.
>>32413837to give a second chance for deadbeats to watch it, anon...
>>32413845You fucker.
>>32413748You mean the rest are actual bots?
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1566240507202011139?s=20&t=ULCykt5e0ZLXsROO4gIfSw>watch. ill reach 10k. Will she?
>>32413748post the site, i want to see how it embeds
>>32413819NTA but I remember her being brought up when twitch tally first started being a thing and someone posted a picture showing it.
>>32413837makes sense for unarchivedit's for the other timezone that couldn't make it to the original live
>>32413845>is this something I would need a second streaming PC for?TWO YEARSTWO YEARS BEFORE FIGURING THIS OUTBUT SHE FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT
>>32413819
>>32413929I just stole it from global
>>32413819>>32413748>>32413838>>32413935>>32413958>>32413962Literally happening right now. Check it if you want, It's called AnimeFLV
>>32413955IRyS peaked at 10k for this, so no.
>>32413754deal
>>32413199And people, chumpedos to be exact, threw shit at Kiara when she said to not see any of the EN as idols compared to the JPs.When stuff like this show EN is still far away from even reaching ID levels despite their popularity.
>>32413983>>32413996Holy shit LMAO. Twitch is such a fucking joke.
>>32413983>>32413996Ah so it's fextralife tier viewbotting.
>>32413845eh the classics case of shit happens, but what can you do it is what it is
>>32414006Peaked at 10k overlapping with Mumei.Bae has no overlap so it's possible.
>>32413955>primetime>no competition yes
>>32413845I mean if i was a streamer i would use a dual stream setup
>>32410706Mogged
>>32413494>>32413983>>32413996Holy shit, I didn't know this was actually being done. This explains a lot.
>>32413968how many holomembers actually have dual pc setups?
>>32413983And this is why twitch numbers are a joke.
>>32414067>what can you doHopefully, she can buy the second PC.
>>32414109Pretty sure Miko does, but thats my recollection from some time ago
>>32414109Mori has a triple PCs setup I think, but she is more professional so it makes sense.
>>32413845are livecams that taxing?fuck i think its pretty cool to see all of them reacting to shit, pngs are so boring.
>>32413116I hate her model, so I can't blame her.
>>32413996some anon back then said this kinda thing quite normal in twitch and abuse able loop, and here I thought he was joking
>>32413845so it's her PC? well PC part price are now stabilizing so she could just buy a prebuilt/ DIY build beefy PC for MSRP.if she, in a few weeks or months, get her new PC, can we expect more collab like this, then?
>>32413845>She doesn't have a special streaming PCGura, you dumb bitch.Even fucking NOWA knows the importance on second PC only for streaming.STOP ACTING LIKE YOU'RE STRAPPED FOR MONEY BITCH, YOU'RE LITERALLY A FUCKING MILLIONAIREFuck, why are EN girls so fucking retarded?
You guys here seem to actually watch the the Jp a lot or atleadt the more popular one so my question is does these sort of thing's happen a lot in holoJp too?Im kinda baffled that it's been 2 years and still HoloEN cant make any collabs works without something turning wrong.
>>32414264>he doesnt automatically believe everything that's posted hereYour loss
>>32414264you ever see fextralife?
>>32414320Nouveau riche are either big spenders or retards that treat every penny as sacred and are scared of losing them.
>>32414330>You guys here seem to actually watch the the Jp a lotBIG mistake to assume that
>>32413845dont care im blaming managmentthey should not let a low iq shark(woman) do all that shit on her own
>>32413845Wow , most subbed vtuber in the world doesn't have second PC for streaming
>>32414330sometimes it does, but it's not even a fair comparison because ALL of holoJP are physically close to each other
>>32414342well I took a grain of salt of everything that posted in here, especially if there's nijisister discord raid
>>32414320i mean she just realized why a second pc was needed, she probably never encountered a situation where she needed one before
>>32412697It's not a "huge ass collab". It's a watchalong which already would be small number and with a bunch of people going in and out.Its not even remotely in the same level like koshien watchalong where like other niji events watchalong, they got a lot more attention
>>32414046You can do the same with YouTube retard
>>32414109Ina, Ame, and Kiara has 2nd PC. Mori has triple.Seriously, what's this bitch problem? Where the fuck does she allocated all those money?
>>32413845>might buy a 2nd PC>bae, mori and kronii recommend nowa builds ityep, i see her doing a holostars collab
>1 (one) chinese viewer on Axel chathow can we gatekeep them from tempissboys anons???
>>32414475>Its not even remotely in the same level like koshien watchalongI never claimed it was. But I have to assume a five-man collab at some points is large. That's a whole fucking gen's worth of people, after all.
>>32414472This is like, what, 3rd time her stream died because technical problem?
>>32414486What do you even do with a triple PC setup?
>>32414486frozen vegan sausages
>>32414303I'm actually impressed, and an SC nonethelessdoes that retard know how to talk?I've only seen him in collabs and I think he's not LARPing, he's a dumb ass retard
axel was really a 2view ....
>>32414109Towa, Miko, Aqua I know for sure has a dual setup. Suisei was working on it, but last I heard she was going to get management to help her out because she is tech illiterate.
>>32413968Jesus Christ how are they not all doing this? It’s fucking annoying how tech illiterate they all are.
>>32414330Fubuki's ass got molested by viewers in that one marine collab
>>32414579Mori has 2 PC set-ups and 1 gaming laptop for travel/extra boost
>>32414520don't reply to me if you're going to shitpost pls
>>32414109Aqua and Towa finally convinced even Suisei to go to 2PC lol. At least half of JP does.
>>32414604>does that retard know how to talk?kind of, sometimes. He is an actual retard, but he benefited HEAVILY from having no one else around.He was hitting 900 before Gura died, then hit 1.5k from the people who had literally nothing else to watch.
Enna has beaten Mumei's last unarchived karaoke and thus, finally beat all of CouncilRyS's last unarchived karaoke streams (and Mumei's last unarchived karaoke was a gimmicky pre-birthday one, too).Just saying since some Holofriends told me that Enna hadn't beaten Mumei's yet last thread. Now she has. Another 8k to beat all of CouncilRyS's unarchived karaoke streams except IRyS's first one, and 13k to beat all of them (which might be hard)
>niji female karaoke 20kIts over holobros... they are inclining...
>>32414330The most recent incident I can remember is Pekora fucking up her second DQM stream due to OBS issues. But in case of group collabs think it rarely happens.
>>32414392>retards that treat every penny as sacredNahModern day riches spend on everything except what they really need until the last minute.
>>32413955Wtf why would she says this. She its literally baiting grudge posters like the retards in this thread. If she misses she'll just get shitposted
>>32414678why are you replying to the shitpost and giving free (you)?
>>32414711lost to scuffed gura stream lol
>>32414726Does Pekora use dual setup?
>>32414763The game, anon.10k Kilometers distance.
who's enna gain?
>>32414784Why reply to ennachizo anon...
>>32414812the cat witch from niji en
>>32414719nijisisters said she would hit 50k tho???What went wrong?
>>32414812enna gainweight?
>>32414711>Enna gets 21k on her first unarchived karaoke since people know of her existence Cool, let me know when she gets 20k again on her 10th unarchived karaoke.I actually like Enna too, you're just being a nigger.
>>32414784Gura is on another level altogether, while Enna is unfortunately still a low-tier NijiEN member. It's natural that she can't beat Gura's big collab with just a normal unarchived karaoke. If Enna can beat Gura, HoloEN will have a lot of issue to think about
Hololive wins again. Nijikeks status?
>>32414604Uh um , your company literally doesn't have anyone else streaming beside him , so that's your answer
>>32414711>Mumei's last unarchived karaoke was a gimmicky pre-birthday one, tooIt was just a normal unarchived karaoke, there was nothing gimmicky about it. If you're going to say that, then Enna's karaoke is a gimmicky 400k celebration karaoke.Just celebrate Enna without being a shitter, I'm actually listening to her too, faggot.
>>32414879Nah That's Selen
>>32414920what do you call this style of typing
>>32414330it's happened beforethey have the advantage of all being in the same city with some of the best internet service. they also have the tech staff usually awake to help with the l2d app issues.this one span half the globe with shitty aussie and indo internet. obs blowing up on gura's end is partly her fault though.
>>32414954retarded
>>32414793Probably triple, the third one is used for 5ch and vrabi.
>>32414885Her numbers have been going up, so it should be within realm of possibility for her to be able to at least maintain this CCV for unarchived karaoke. She doesn't spam it so it's unlikely it will be going out of fashion anytime soon
>>32414880nijiEN is reclining, release wave 7
>>32414889>low-tier NijiEN memberI mean, she's the second most popular female in NijiEN behind Selen.
>>32414972I don't remember any JP stream died to purely technical issue since 2021.
>>32415007Yeah, I'll be waiting for to see if she can get 20k her 10th unarchived karaoke in 2024.
>>32415067That's still a low tier nijiEN, anon
>>32414797Come on you know the double meaning didn't slip by her
>>32414711>>32414946Forgot to attach the image.Now fuck off.
>>32415129She's literally not a low tier NijiEN when she's above most of Noctyx and under Selen and Luxiem.Low tier NiijEN is Aia or Reimu.
is enna a flip? i feel like her fanbase are just flipschizos that usually shitpost on /vt/
>>32414330It happened before but still won them Goldsee pekora yellow screen mario kart stream
>>32415129It's high mid. She's like 6-8th out of 26 people.
>>32414972Issues like these are really predictable these days I hardly can say it is due to EN curse (to some extents, yes) but more the talents have no actual sort of tech literate support of any kind to advice them before hand. If there is one, they would have voice their concern "hey, that wouldnt work since the OBS will die". These girls' "support" is just for game permission or something, not even drama-avoiding advice for Kronii too.
>>32415071pretty sure la+ had a few this year with her shitty internet
>>32415262zhang
>hololive builds their own OBS tier program to stop this shit from happening imagine they do this.
>>32415262Chinese-Canadian
>>32415295Save them, uncle Nowa.
>>32415295They advised Kronii to ignore it, she declined to take the advice.
>>32415262She's the most popular NijiCN female.
Just saying if HoloEN doesn't step up their game, they gonna going the same fate just like NijisanjiJP back in the day. Whoever managing HoloEN needs to wake up and realize they are no longer in 2020 anymore.
>>32414330>these sort of thing's happen a lot in holoJp too?It used too, sometimes with the streamer having to fight with OBS or game settings for 15 minutes or so. There are some infamous cases with Fubuki dropping into Haachama(?) chat and helping her. That all in 2020 tho. They improve their setup and must have traded tips, this type of scuff is almost nonexistent now.
>>32415321>Connection issueClearly different issue than what the fuck is happening to Gura.It's also a pretty pricey issue since she needed to move out of her old place in order to finally get a better ISP
>>32414481YouTube is not nearly as lenient with embed views as Twitch is, this is false. Not only will it not count if you autoplay, it will not count unless you are tabbed in and it has to be unmuted. Twitch does not care about any of this. Not only does the stream that was screenshotted autoplay on the site, it is also muted by default. You're the retard.
>>32415399>ends up worse than OBSMany such cases. Now I'm sure OBS is still an inefficient piece of shit but more often than not your homebrew solution will be inferior to the solution already out on the market.
>>32415539they need to buy the same bots that niji en is buying
>>32415364>>32415422>>32415534i see. enlightening.
>>32415399>cover>the company that makes a garbage l2p app that always shits itself
If HoloEN wants to avoid issues, they should all just do the equivlant of what HoloJP does.>HoloJP: All live in Tokyo: Everything is easier>HoloEN: Live everywhere: Causes problemsTherefore: They should all move to Boston.>great internet>dense network of tech-related industries>strongest chances of getting a Live3D studio to rent outLiterally the perfect idea.
>>32415399Anon, OBS is gold standard for streaming.It's full of kinks and issues, sure, but most of the time unless the user is complete idiot like Gura, it'd do just fine.
>>32414109Luna just had a 1million yen window shopping stream so you could add her later
>>32415699nah they should move to jakarta.ID already have an actual studio.
JWU did Ennakeks gaslight the thread that having half of Luxiem and Noctyx karaoke is not a failure.
>>32415688Really puts a lot of things in perspective doesn't it?
Here's a food for thought.What if all this time the so-called EN curse was just Gura with her shitty tech?
So this is the project that Gura spent 2 years to organize? First the guestlist dropped from 8 people to 6 people, and then the obs fuckery? Well at least she secured the cripple gold I guess?
>>32415699Just have them live in one house like what most professional e-sport team does.
>>32415617It's weird how they've had software that can deal with graphics like this in standard TV for years that even local stations could get working, but streaming just has OBS. Although there might be paid options out there.
>>32415707This might sound condescending as fuk but she has more than 2 years of experience, right? I mean, even an animal can be trained or learn in less time to perform some tricks or tasks, but a human being doing what considered their passion/hobby can not? From what some anons say, the solutions sound like common sense too.
>>32415877>girls>living togetherBAD
>>32415877Tempus gonna try that sometimes in the next year
>>32415699>bostoni rather they live in an actual shit hole, like a hole full of shit. boston sucks ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LOlueKCtkBakc when mori was alright.
>>32415914What can I say, dumb bitch is dumb.Even Mori and Kiara learned fast
>>32415909there is the tricaster (hardware based)used to be the standard for live streaming. it's closer to what tv broadcast compositor used to be. it's more limited as far as filters, assets, etc. to obs though.
>>32415955GREATEST CITY ON EARTH, BABY
>>32413837Lets her NA audience who were sleeping at the original time watch and lets you fill in a day that would be empty. Before she moved VA11HA11A without the rebroadcast it’d be a no stream day
>>32415699I fucking hate boston after that shitshow during anime boston. imagine not knowing what song gura sang during her debut. Also, FUCK THE CELTICS
>>32416096tricaster is even worse than OBS.
>>32415877Ah yes, a collection of introverts and menheras in the same house is totally going to be without problems.
>>32415956Axel is going to move to the US? I don't see that. He's Asian his family would lose their shit. Also he wouldn't get to offcollab Bae.
>>32416210He used to live in Japan, anon.In fact he auditioned to Tempus while living there.
>>32416201>that shitshow during anime bostonI was in the crowd for that, it was fucking fun as shit to heckle the fuck out of anyone getting it wrong.Never seen an audience so fucking angry at someone for getting trivia wrong.
>>32415699If we are talking about moving anyway, they should all move to Tokyo instead. All the tech support and even the studio is there. The internet seems to be stable enough for JPs to stream too.
>>32415914>HoloEN>Common senseWhy even try to improve/fix anything if you can just blame it to "EN law" every single time and your retarded fanbase will eat that all up. This Gura stream is peak HoloEN, and a good reason to why they reclined so much.
Never watch and care about enna before.but ennafans so annoying that i hate her now.
>>32416355>All of HoloEN streams in JST primetime tooPlease no
fuck it, nowa where is my CPU grilling stream?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocnIM8jIKWc&feature=youtu.be
>There might be better software than OBSDon't bother, an open source software becoming the standard would means everything else is worse
>>32416469You dont even need the niggers to hate her, try listening to her now.
>>32413199the fuck are you talking about?stop blaming cover retard>b-but muh talent supportsupport of what? this isnt a nursery nigganobody's gonna hold your oshi by hand and walk her through it like a little baby. if you ant make it on your own than you aint cut for it. simple as.
>>32416469SameShe is a good singer no doubt but what makes IRyS so amazing is that she is also a top tier streamer/entertainer on top of being a good singer. Enna's streams are awful and she is too bitchy to be entertaining.
>>32416500You don't have to stream in JST just because you live in Japan, retard. Vox lives in Britain but streams in CN primetime every time.
>>32416469same here, I dont give a shit about niji en but I will shit on her everytime I have the chance
>>32416561mid tier
>>32416205nah, it's well tested in the live broadcast industry. it's just not as extensible as obs and super pricey.
>>32416528Holomain channel could be using something else, is what I thought as well
>>32414320>Even fucking NOWA knows the importance on second PC only for streaming.wdym even nowa?Nowa is the most tech savy of them all nigger
>>32413199?You think sankisei's 4 game shows recently are set-up by the management? You think the Among Us collab today is set up by the management? What a fucking retard.
>>32416355Double taxation https://youtu.be/5MmATNMfXyMAnd moving oversea for work will cause unnecessary stress to the streamer might not be good idea if holo plan to move to other market
>>32416575Do you know the time difference between streaming in CN time for EU vs streaming in NA time for someone in JST?
>>32416575So you want them to fuck up their sleep schedule even more? Just to avoid competing with JP in primetime?Thank god you're nobody then, I can't imagine if EN manager is as dumb as you
>>32414578No? Are you stupid?
Rat gonna hit 10k any minute now, she was right
>>32416691Nowa doesn't seem to use a 2 PC setup though, he just has a dedicated one for all his Holostars work
>>32416469Same but for Pomu. And Chima. I hate fans begging.
10k Bae
rat 10k
>>32416462They are also comfortable being in a decline for some reasons. Outside of Mori and Kiara which are huge numberfag, they dont seem to express sign of bother about their decline or numbers. They dont try to improve or stream more. The god damn income must be so good or I can not know any other reasons.
>>32416691He rarely used his PC to do intensive stuff, theoretically he could make do with single pc.But Nowa is smart, and he invested in himself to avoid future problem.
>>32416772She essentially got a funnel after being in a stream with Gura on top of fan games being gigabuff material for some reason. Then there's the fact that this slot is fucking empty. She lucked out.
So Bae is gonna get more viewers than IRyS did on her own fan game, sad
>I'll reach 10K>hit 10Kkek
>>32416777He plans to.
>>32416711>Double taxation>"A Convention Between The United States And Japan For The Avoidance of Double Taxation And The Prevention of Fiscal Evasion With Respect to Taxes on Income Was Signed at Tokyo on March 8, 1971."It was signed in fucking 1971. Mori is just dumb.
>>32415914>t. never worked in his life beforeYou're saying as if 2 years is enough for a full perfect performance for a project. Most streamers had to experience one or two fuck ups every single month, and the top ones had people on payroll to do the tech stuff for them so that everything goes smoothly and even then, there's still delays or problems. You're just retarded.
>>32416469it's not worth hating someone so mediocre anon
>>32416871It's not called the IRyS line for nothing
>>3241689610keks for you rat
Why is Bae # dropping ??? Don't tell me this shitty game works like Holocure/VS
>Bae shilling IRyS music more than she does
Paul Li's Nijisanjification plan for September 20221. Encourage or pressure livers to pump buff content and to stream long.2. Advertise that the females are inclining, while hiding the fact that the males are reclining and males are buffing the female streams.3. Encourage Homo-Holo collabs so those who are normalized on such behavior will be more vulnerable to move to Niji streams.4. Always compare the numbers of buffed streams to any Hololive English streams and brag about it when they mogged a random HoloEN stream.5. Develop any kinds of advertisement methods to promote the brand in all social media platforms.6. Act like your fanbase is composed of good guys and the other fanbases are toxic.
Why did Bae's numbers just fucking nosedive?
IRyS' new song Gravity is really fucking good. If it actually got an MV on time it might help improve her music views. But ya know, Cover incompetence.
Is rat Zing or something?
>>32416993The game plays like Apex. The more you lose the more you drop.
Who has the most annoying fans?selen or enna?
>>32416993>Don't tell me this shitty game works like Holocure/VSOfc it does.
Another episode of "management should be responsible" by ENShart
>>32416993It's a round-based game with a progressive score, of course it does.
>>32416993Yes? Didn't you see IRyS' graph when she played this?
Irys cant even shill her own songs while playing the same game
>>32416720>>32416734CN is literally half a globe away from UK if you look at the map. Also I was not the one that was dumb enough to suggest them to move together in one place, I was just saying if you want that, might as well move to Tokyo to grab every possible advantage of moving together.
>>32417047Selen "fans" are mainly shit posters jumping on the trend. Enna fans are 100% pure devotees and actually believe the shit that they spew so they are 100% worse.
>>32416998Shilling that See the World song is bad publicity
>>32417047get on our level bitch
hey ennakeks, where's your music album?
>>32417036Unlikely. She has cover songs with ok MVs, Till the End of Me got an MV, Here Comes Hope has an MV. They all struggle to hit 1M. Her songs and popularity just aren't good enoguh to warrant spending too much on MVs.
>>32417047both are cancer and I hope their oshi graduates this year
>>32417102OR, you could build a studio in NA or something, you know, like what's Cover doing right now?
>>32417036I didn't even know she had a new song, lol. I assume that is the one playing on Bae's stream right now? You are right, it's really good.
>>32417160Chimafag you are not better than Ennakek.
>>32417016>>32416993>>32417040People tabbing out, she just died and paused to change musiclet's see if it goes back up
>>32417047Nijisunji
>>32417160>tone deaf whore>getting an albumroru
>>32417209Fuck you, we're way better than Ennakek and Selenkek combined
>>32417185Which is a good idea I agree, and that doesn't involve moving to shitty town in the middle of US.
what are the odds that big brains part 2 ends up similar to her biggest karaoke since it got postponed due to technical issues, with it doing better than what it originally would have
>>32417163All of those MVs were months late though. We have yet to see an IRyS original get an MV on time except for Ceasura of Despair (short version).Her cover songs have actually performed pretty well since you can't listen to them on Spotify months before the MV comes out.
TICK TOCK
>>32417047There's a reason why dragoons are persona non grata even in /NijiEN/. There's only one really annoying Ennaschizo, the rest are okay.
>>32415877>living with co-workers/friendsThis ALWAYS goes badly and anyone who wants to do this is a retard. You will either get sick of each others' presence or living habits or something will happen that will drive a wedge between you. See: every fucking content creator house ever or Kanata and "Coco"'s situation.
>>32417047They're both annoying in their own way. If you want to see their real fans (not shitposters) go to the Niji thread. Aloucreeps are, well, creepy in general, and mostly just fetishize Enna. Dragoons are either smug or defensive, depending on the situation. Selen can do no wrong and everyone else is dragging her down.
>>32417276Covers depend on the popularity of the original and her Identity did worse than other covers of the same song that came out around the same time, like the Enna one
>>32417277GO LUNA GO!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STUhD5HtTOI>IM GONNA STEAL YOUR THUNDER>COMMING UP FROM UNDER
>>32417259Is Chima the "good" Niji singer that sounds like garbage live or was that Melissa? Totally carried by audio post processing. Might have been Melissa though. I get my Niji whores mixed up.
>>32417366Chima sounds great live
>>32417276Seethe World and Sparks of Joy dropped with MVs. Till the End of me only got an MV a couple weeks after the fact. Getting 1M after 6 months on a cover song is not that good either. IRyStocrats are delusional. If her newest song got an MV on release it would not hit 1M in 6 months. Her songs are not as good as you think they are. Going from trash->mediocre does not make them good.
>>32417047selene at least has good lewdsso i would say the ennaalso lmao at her celebration numbers.
>>32417307>the rest are okay.no they are not, most of them are also pure shit
>>32417277>last stream 9 days ago>less subs this month than RobocoDoes anyone know what Laplus's twitch stream frequency is?
>>32417277La+ you fucking slut STREAM and NOT on twitch
>>32417366That is 100% Melissa. She was regarded as a top tier singer but barely sang during her 3D since she actually sounds like garbage live.
>22k karaoke>5k afterpartyhuh?
https://youtu.be/N029UUlH1Dc21M
>>32416355Most of the current talent probably wouldn't want to unroot themselves to live in Japan, even if many are weebs. You'd need to only take Japanese-Americans/Canadians with a connection to Japan (like Irys), Japanese who are really good at English (I think Coco was this, correct me if I'm wrong) and English speakers guaranteed to be there long term (Mori).
>>32417366that was melissa and mitochima, levi & toko are the good live singer
>>32417358The Enna one came out a month before Irys's. The one it lost to is Lui/Okayu's. Internet Overdose did much better than Identity anyways.
>>32417436It's just as bad as her youtube. Twitch vods only go back 30 days
>>32417366the only good singer in nijisanji is toko, the rest are mid-low tier
>>32416292Is he the Kiara of Tempus? Apply to Hololive while still living in JP, move away afterwards
>>32417399She sounds nothing like her model.
>not even 100kIRyStocrats don't look!
>>32417403Seethe World and Sparks of Joy maybe but pretty much everything she has released since Journey is really good.
>>32417557B-but i thought this was her best orisong?
>>32417500only 5M more to surpass the original
>>32417538He moved back to Aussie before the 3rd phase, unlike Kiara.
>>32417538He's a hafu, probably has family in Japan.
IRyS should just do cover of popular songs like she did back in the days.
>>32417524IRyS has the best cover on each of those songs and I'm not even an IRyStocrat. She just nailed both of those songs.
>>32417680not allowed. project: hope has a pre-written story to finish
>>32417516Imagine an autist introvert like Gura in Tokyo, I think she would short-circuit and ended up driving a pick-up truck through busy intersection
>>32417277Luna deserves it. It feels like she's been slowly inclining over the last couple of months and I don't really know what set it off.
>>32417722t. Irystocrat
So I've been away from /#/ numbers for a while, but I've realized Bae suddenly started pulling big numbers recently, what's the reason for it? Was it the Tempus collabs?
>>32417732She can do cover songs. She just has to spend her own money to do it.
>>32413748the fextralife of vtubers, I see
>>32417680If you look Irys's musical output, she's likely already recording every moment she can with months of songs in the backlog already.Covers are also not supported by Cover iirc so she'll need to pay for them out of pocket.>>32417722I'm also not an Irystocrat and I agree. Kinda disappointed how long it took Identity to get to 1 mil.
If Enna, Chima and Toko was a great singer as their fans says, why don't they have any solo music albums?
>>32417782Lots of event and gimmick streams on her channel.
>>32417864>Enna>good singerlmao
>>32417827The problem with IRyS doing cover songs is that Cover has her in the studio constantly recording new original stuff. They need to give her like a 6 month break from recording and let her do some cover songs.
>>32417758Monster Hunter Rise
>>32417827>>32417841The inner numberfag me would say she should just pay out of her pocket to cover any new hit anime song.
vesper watched mori's TTRPG live and love amelia's watoto
>>32417841Outside of doing the EP every six months she only has one studio recording per month, sometimes not even that, She has had a few months this year where she did not have any recordings.
>>32417908She records about once a month, that leaves plenty of time for covers if she wanted to do some
So... Where did they go?
>>32417908> 6 month breakAnon, do you know how long that is? Council just had their first anniversary.
>>32417908One studio day per month and then an EP at the 6 month mark is not constantly.
>>32417936>he liked That Guyseriously
>compensating the inflationbased nips
>>32417782she recently (maybe July?) had a heart to heart with her members about trying to optimize her streams, one of the regulars or a tourist came in her to brainstorm suggestions for her and it seems she took at least some to heart
>>32417908Cover songs are kind of a waste of time. You don't make much off of them. If anything it's some advertising and a nice vanity project for the talent at most.
>>32417758Monster Hunter RiseRust arcNew Costume
>>32417973to the farms
>>32417936well, she is the only enthusiast player
>>32417782Glad for her. Well deserved honestly after seeing her mv
>>32417908What they need to do is lessen her original music output because it cheapens the value of each song, kind of like how Nijisanji's accelerate plan cheapens the value of each of their 'livers'.
>>32418025holy shit, please be a female
Poorfag question: Any EN talent express concern about their numbers in member streams? People talk about their decline often in here so just wondering what the girls are thinking in more private streams. Anything like Vox or Mysta but in member instead?
>>32417557How many views does this song have on the video that was released first with audio only?Should have just waited for the MV before releasing the song. Everyone already listened to it and all the hype has died. Don't get why it took so long for the MV, it was basically a moving slideshow.
>>32417936is it too hard for tempus to go one stream without mentioning holoEN?
>>32417973I listened to Enna's karaoke but I'm not watching her talk, her personality is seriously awful.
>>32418088On the flipside, it's too late for that and they might as well push out more in hopes for a viral hit (as unlikely as it is looking at Azki with like 30 singles).
Pippa a 4view now?
>>32417782She isnt playing indie games anymore.if Bae was able to handle horror she would be 8k average.
>>32418127blame SC who's bring the topic
>>32418122Do you know their membership vods numbers?
>>32418036It is good fanservice though? I am still looping that Monster from Yoasobi Cover by 6 holomems.
>>32418122Bae had a members stream where she kinda talked about her numbers and wanting to improve them but she didn't got full vox with it
>Told his femcels to fuck off you fujos are just wallets for me>BF ASMRhttps://youtu.be/IAzrCwEEpeo
>>32418127Try watching Tempus streams before saying retarded shit like this.
>>32417973enna now days is a worse doomer than kronii, hell kroni is actually more happy than her on stream nowdays it sucks to watch.
>>32417864rrat: Enna auditioned for VSinger but failed. She became the ennakek, and the fans reflect her. As she goes to sleep, she dreams about being the VSinger of Hololive and a single tear drops quietly from her cheeks. A photo of Irys is on top of her bed with a large X marks and traces of dart holes into them.
>>32418165She seems to able to break that 1k mark after the furry grooming age gap yab. Phase connect just need more yabs and drama to grow their other chuubas too.
>>32418206no different with my feminist coworker
>>32418206pathetic
>>32418122Kiara is the only one that ever really says anything. Not sure if she elaborates any extra in members or not but she was talking about her lack of new growth and members the other day.
enna still can't beat kobo
>>32418122bae but more about her improving rather than "WE WERE KANGZ AND SHIET" like vox.>>32418206>>Told his femcels to fuck off you fujos are just wallets for mehe came back crying the next day tough.
>>32418125246k
>>32418025>Nowa-chan daisukiHE MADE IT BOIS, HE GOT HIMSELF A GACHI
>>32418246Old rrat that's been milked dry already
>>32418181You know Koyori also has 3 other covers recently that flopped right?It's a total crapshoot if your fans even care about your covers and in that case, it was a stacked collab cover song.
>>32418206Damn Vox is really pulling out a big gun this time. There must be immense pressure from management and even himself to get back to 5view.
>>32417277Holy shit... I remember watching Luna 2 years ago to saviorfag her from her low views and subcount... I can't believe she's now reached this far, I kneel Hime-sama.
>>32418125246k on youtube music207k on Spotify
>>32418165Her floor is like 700 now for just chatting streams and she seems tom break 1k about half the time on any of her other streams.
>>32418246Enna never applied for Vsinger because she always wanted to get into NijiEN with Millie and Elira.
>>32418179No I dont, but Im just interested in the talk, not the VOD numbers.
>>32418295>not an english karaokeNot comparable
>>32417557It has gotten dozen thousands cut off (/hirys/ & /hlgg/ were counting each time they saw the views dropped by 1-2k and that happened at least 6 times by yesterday) so it probably would have reached 100k if it was released 1-2 months earlier (before Susan start culling VODs)
Cover saw Irys's views on 2 covers and thought they found another Gura, too bad she's the literal definition of a one hit wonder.
>>32418317Imo they just need to find the song that is popular enough and suits them. I was not there for Koyori's singing lmao her singing kinda sucks but other 3 holomems carried the song.
>>32418348So the MV doesn't matter much, because it seems to move about on par with her other songs on Spotify. Could it be that the songs just aren't as good as her fans think?
I genuinely don't know how people can listen to Bae talk.
>>32418348That isn't bad at all. If the MV was actually released on time it would probably be in the 700-800k range approaching 1 million. It's a seriously very good song.
Say what you will about Omega, but they are not as brutal and ruthless as Paul Li. To be honest, Cover's company culture highly discourages putting pressure on Holo members unless it's merch signing thing.
>>32417782>Buffed content (Fangame + Ship buff)>No other HoloEN is on right nowShe might or might not have inclined too, but these are two big buffs
>>32418295indogchama...
>>32418435Or you mean 2 hits? But I am glad they found her or else all ENs will just be introverts streaming autistically.
>>32418454It's not about being good or bad in her case, she's just not popular enough for them to get traction. Hell, alot of times people dont even know she released anything.
>>32418295>Julyholonigger... things have changed since then...
>>32418393it was an englishbtw, she had the one that sing in toilet.. and yes, she mogged enna
>>32417782What the fuck are you talking about nigga, most of her high stuff were collabs. She had a fucking sub 10k Minecraft recently
>>32418435Except outside of her two big covers, she had several 1M+ and 500k+ covers as well
>>32418317I can assure you that Koyori cares more about the Yaosobi cover with 6 holomems does than her other covers by herself
>>32418460I think the biggest problem is that her setup sounds like shit
look at that smooth recline
>>32418282Ame and Mori have some big dive in their numbers and not a hint of concern in member streams? What about Gura? I guess she will not say anything but may be a hint of concern or something.
>>32418563oh, if you compare it to non kareoke, she utterly destroyed ennanot even close
>>32418617It's is a beautiful slide down to 5k
>>32418565>>32418295Damn, Kobo beats nijiEN more times than I can count... How does she do it with only ID fans?
>>32418502I think she noticably toned down her voice volume and annoying mannerisms like random yelling in the past month, especially in collabs. I will choose to believe that contributed somehow.
>>32418462It's slower than Till the End of Me growth on Spotify4 months for 650k for Till the End of Me2 months for 207k for One Step at a TimeUnlikely an MV on release would have it any higher than Till End of Me's MV views right now>>32418537She should market herself better. bae has shilled her songs more than she has in this stream
>>32418625Becasue most memebers know is becasue shitty content. but hard to tell your oshi "hey the game you like is boring for most people"
>>32418642>eceleb leechingtranny-kun.. please stop, you are embarassing yourself
>>32418687English songs are a debuff for her
>>32418742Then don't claim an MV on release would have it doing better than any of her other songs when they aren't growing any faster than her previous ones on other streaming platforms
>>32418657kobo really had a massive fansyou can't see something like this in NijiEN, let alone ennahttps://twitter.com/KautsarMusic/status/1561515466971316228https://twitter.com/NekonoiKatsu/status/1563925030299631617https://twitter.com/ergee_otaku/status/1561366704261038080
>>32418122>Any EN talent express concern about their numbers in member streams?IRyS, Ame and Gura, the girls I have the membership for: None of them have ever talked about numbers in those streams. Or ever, really, except for Ame talking about how she expects to push people away over time.I've never heard of the other ENs talking about numbers in membership stuff either, except for Kiara talking about them in response to people asking about them, and Bae talking about it a little bit once.
>>32418575>sub 10k MinecraftHer stream died, but it was also during the festival thing, with like 20 overlapping minecraft streams happening all at the same time
>>32418625The only numberfagging recently that Gura has done is her talking about how dino Gura OBLITERATED merch records. Other than that she is mostly vagueposting about her projects and recording for things.
>>32418625Gura doesn't even really like big numbers so I don't she would really care too much unless she started slipping to sub 10k or somethingAme and Mori obviously know when their numbers take a dive but they will never give a fuck
>>32418802I'm not talking about the Festival, dumbass.
>>32418625>gura>numbers
>>32418837the other one was at fucking 1am NA time. if that is what you are refering to
>>32418714if you want solo stream, she can still mogged enna unarchive karaoke btw
>>32418787Do you have any examples of enna fans? Or they barely exists and just tourists?
>Cover explicitly says they hire content creators instead of idols for EN>the people they hire as idols end up being better content creators anywayrumao
>>32418714>can't do rebuttaljust let it go now, anon.
>>32418865>the other one was at fucking 1am NA time. if that is what you are refering toFauna has done multiple 1am NA time minecraft that reached 10k, you literally cannot use this excuse.
>>32418687Are you sure you have the right numbers for Till the end of me?
>>32418800>Ame talking about how she expects to push people away over time.Why is she like thisYou're not supposed to want to slowly lose all your fans
>>32418787God I get second hand cringe everytime I see people sing this in public
>>32418122Are you even sure that they are declining? And if they are, at which rate? I meant, >we have fun comparing numbers, but ultimately, no one really knows how much HoloEN is getting culled by.Personally, I don't remember Fauna, Mumei and IRyS complaining about numbers. The closest to a complain (that I can recall) is just IRyS talking about how their subs are getting removed daily (answering a SC talking about reaching 1M subs), but that isn't the same kind of talk Vox had. Unless I missed a stream or two, don't think I've heard any of the 3 bringing up CCV or views yet
>>32418787how did this happen? Yagoo's luck?
>>32418687>She should market herself better.I think Irys is just not naturally good at it. You have examples like Suisei and Mori who plug their music all the time, but when Irys does it, it's kinda forced? It's not like she doesn't try, seeing her intro and outro and her recently trying to market her songs better with changing her twitter name.Still not as bad as Kronii and Gura at shilling, but she's not as popular as them.
>>32418787I always love seeing the 2nd one. It's one of the most surreal things I think i've seen
>>32418942hey the song is catchy and general weebs like it.
>>32418921>you literally cannot use this excuse.Why not? Fauna is literally more popular than Bae and her minecraft streams have built a reputation for being comfy yet productive, whereas Bae's minecraft streams are noisy and unproductive.
>>32418931My bad its actually 400k, Sparks of Joy was the one I read right below it. So they're similar in growth.
Bae hit 10k, for the 3rd time this stream
>>32418831Pretty sure Mori cares about her numbers, at least for VOD views on her songs. Maybe not CCV very much.
>>32418625You need to understand this, anon:HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT NUMBERS.Their words AND their actions fully support this theory. They almost never do anything that the average person could consider "numberfagging," to the point where people here freak out very often over how it seems like they explicitly look for ways to make themselves as un-"buffed" as possible, and in Amelia's case, they DO explicitly look for those ways and do them(FUCKING HOLOCURE AND ELDEN RING STREAMS TITLED AS SUPERCHAT READINGS COME THE FUCK ON).They don't care. They outright DO NOT CARE. If they wanted numbers, they'd do so much else. But they don't. Even Kiara, the one people call "The Numberfag" of the branch, explicitly AND OPENLY chooses to only play the most debuff-tier garbo stream games, just because SHE LIKES TO PLAY THEM. They could be downright 3views and not give a shit.Their numbers strategy is this:>I'm just happy to be here at all!
Praying that my oshi has fun and gets good numbers for her stream today. Praying that Mumei and Fauna continue to incline. Praying that Gura's future collab is idiot-proof and gets good numbers. Praying that Choco's anniversary stream gets good numbers.
>>32418921recent ones?the most she get is a 10pm
>>32419039Ok yeah songs she does care about for sure
>>32418897They didn't say that, by the way, they said they hire idols who are also content creators.
>>32418963She just released a new song and One Step got an MV and she would not have mentioned them at all in her Mortuary assistant stream if someone didn't mention Gravity in an SC. She just does not talk about them.
>>32418837>recent minecraft stream>I'm not talking about that recent stream!okay retard, no one will know what you are talking about when you're being vague
>>32418944I mean, it will invite timeloop but at least Im just looking purely at the CCV. Sure people can watch the VOD later but for me personally the CCV kind of present an interest in watching at that moment in time, and if fewer and fewer want to watch then fewer and fewer will catch the VOD as well, meaning lower interest in the talent and thus a decline? Of course, Im just talking out of my ass since I have no data anyway, just speculation.
>>32419043Kiara is a numberfag, she's just trying to brute force it since she's a stubborn bitch.
>>32419117"recently" doesn't mean "most recent" and you can just look at the fucking image that shows the second minecraft stream
>>32419055Choco's top ten streams?
>>32418933Ame wants to boil her viewership down so that only the most parasocial remain. Only way I can think of to explain all of her 'prove that you love me' tests.
>>32418944Fauna had an anti-numbers, or anti-caring-about-numbers at least, rant in one of her streams in the last month or two. Ironically it was right in the middle of her current incline.
>screaming about how much you fucking despise Build-a-Bear quality control can get you 1,300 viewersnever woulda thought.
>>32418625Mori basically said if she had a smaller fanbase she’d be happy to do Rushia/Lamy esque GFE shit.
>>32419235nah she just can fix her sleep schedule so everything is guerrilla unless it is a special stream.
>>32419235The Ultimate GFE...
>>32419043Cover doesnt care about expanding to the West? Or they do but cant do a thing if their talents are not willing then.
Reminder-- Niji only hired Pomu, Millie, and Elira because they were some of the top indies on Youtube.-- Niji only hired Enna because Millie demanded it.-- Niji only hired Rosemi because she knew the other girls.-- Selen has openly said that if she applied to Niji today, she would not have been hired.Everyone good Niji has hired was pure luck and nepotism. When they hire based on their own rubric, they end up with people like ILuna and Noctyx.
>>32418883viewfarm doesn't count as human
22k>4.6kEnnakeks.... Even Gura would retain 60-70% of her audience after karaoke...
>>32418642Damn Gura was really going to beat this e-celebs stream...what a depressing way to end for numbers
>>32418963Here is the thing about "marketing herself better". Could she do a better job? Sure, of course. However, she is part of a fucking talent agency who's fucking job it is to provide her with the resources to sing and be successful. Cover has done jack shit to promote her music. She should have had 3D at debut and had special concert events to promote her two EP releases. That is the BASE level they should have done to promote her stuff.
>>32419330noctyx isnt doing THAT BAD all of them get atleast 3k
Are there any videos showing a crowd singing Jazz On The Clock yet? There are bound to be many...right?
>>32418963She's pretty bad at it yes. Recently she's been doing the like and subscribe spiel at the end of her streams, but it always sounds like she has a knife to her back when she does it.
>>32419059That was 1am ET.
>>32419158>"recently" doesn't mean "most recent"yes, you said "recent stream". When you don't give any specification, people will assume you are talking about the most recent
Magnificent.
>>32419118Two things.One: They consider a lot more than CCV when considering popularity.>Sub count>VOD views>Twitter engagement>Live Event attendance>Fanart>Chat speedetc, etc, etc.Two: Many of them are not actually "losing CCV." Most of them are stable and in a similar range as always. The only ones you can really say that have "lost CCV" over time are the ones that seemed to WANT a smaller audience (Kronii, Ame) or never really cared about the CCV side compared to the "content production" side (Mori).
>>32419330wanna bet who will flop harder? Iluna or wave 7?
>>32411586shit happens, at least it happened now and not for a truly important event.
>>32419412> She had a fucking sub 10k Minecraft recentlyAgain, "recently" does not mean "most recent".
>>32417782Yes, Even kobo got better number. Unicuck on suicide watch
>>32419418The lack of spiking probably means there is little Chinese audience, right?
>>32419241Fauna I feel is more "content-brained" than "numbers-brained" It's just that trying to push yourself to provide good content your audience will enjoy has the side effect of helping numbers
>>32419330Fucking mille. Enna should've been Holo
>>32419387She doesn't need 3D to do concerts. She doesn't even sing her own songs in karaokes.
>>32419330I meant, if you talk about it, Everyone good HoloEN has hired was pure luck, too. Not that they've been doing that well after Myth
>>32419410and bae was even latter
>>32419469Spiking means EOPs
>>32419325Cover has continued to expand into the West, and at a rapid pace.It's just that, at the current level of popularity, Cover can expand into the west without needing to focus on numbers. As we've seen, they can regularly sell out events and overwhelm convention halls in the American East Coast, American West Coast, Canadian West Coast, German Rhine River Coast and Seoul, on top of other assorted areas.They're continuing to expand, but their current "Audience share" is large enough that you don't need to chase the CCV to secure that expansion.
>>32419241https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tem4kHcM1s
Why are EN fans expecting Cover to babysit their EN talents for everything while they never do the same for JP? They are consistent in both supporting the talents in regard to merch and concerts only, both JP and EN has to decide what content to put out on their channels.
>>32419469Spikes aren't really indication of Chinese audience per se, but yeah judging by her SC distribution,.
>>32419387You mean>Cover has done jack shit to promote anyone musicEven Suisei has to shill her shit all the time and everybody was making fun of it. Why should IRyS get a different treatment ?
>>32412734>>32413170>box
>>32419470>content-brainedThat's vastly superior to being a numberfag. I wish all of HoloEN were content-brained so at least they'd stop playing those fucking boring indie games.
>>32419526Riku's luck has proven to be much better than Yagoo's luck. Like, he manage to get Lazulight, Osydia, Enna, Luxiem and Noctyx. That guy must have been blessed by the God.
>>32419395Sonny...
>>32419534And Fauna was completely far out of her timeslot.Do you not understand how dumb you're sounding
>>32419596Exactly. People complaining about IRyS marketing don't realize they market her the exact same as everyone else, but she makes no effort similar to what others do on her own behalf.
>>32419632Faking your own death debuff
>>32419565And NijiEN has the rest of the world. Your point?
>>32418460I think her voice sounds pleasant enough here, a nice mid pitch. it was genuinely unbearable near debut
>>32414654Calling that a triple setup is a bit misleading...
>>32419395>sonny getting destoryed>yugo 3 man collab giving shit numebrsif noctyx had came up even a month later im sure they will be worse. they got lucky on the timing since they rided luxiem popularity.
>>32419456She had two streams fitting that criteria.Again, when you don't give any specification, people will assume you are talking about the most recent
The NijiEN management are numberfags. Their livers spam buff streams consistently. Even the Solid Guy is an open numberfag. HoloEN talents mostly do not care about the numbers, some of which are deliberately debuffing themselves.It must be easy for a turtle to defeat a wandering rabbit in a race and NijiEN is not merely a turtle.If that is so, then why does NijiEN still struggle to mog HoloEN?
>>32419487Sorry omegafag only wanted one EN vsinger, and by "EN vsinger" they meant someone who can sing all the mediocre JP orisongs that they toss at her
>>32418344Her piano streams were the catalysm. Some nights, she even suppased Towa on those streams. I kinda miss the Piano streams.
>>32418787Shes guaranteed to reach 2m subs this year then. Good job shitting on Kobo nijikeks, now you have the entire streaming industry from indo against your frail asses. No? Your manwhore got magged and gap is widening.
>>32419642is still a far better timeslot for NA what thehell is your pointwhya re you comparing a 1am to 3am stream?
>>32419722I genuinely could not give less of a shit about NijiEN, anon.You asked me about Hololive, I told you about Hololive. If Niji wants to step up to that, by all means, I invite them to try, but they haven't done it to that same level yet. I saw the convention halls, nowhere near filled. Can't compare. But we're not talking about them; we're talking about Holo.
>>32419748well holo gets a salary so yeah they HAVE TO be numberfahs
>>32419798Siska, Hana and Mika will soon beat that shit-eating whore. At least NijiEN girls do not blatantly try to sell their bodies to male e-celebs. As an ID unicorb, fuck Kobo.
>>32419583This is literally the opposite of what Vox said it's actually comical
>>32416777People are piling on Gura, but I don't think a second pc is inherently necessary to have good streams. This is without doing much research but afaik most 'streaming PCs' aren't even particularly beefy, the main reason to do it is just to free up some extra overhead on the main PC. If you have a really good CPU and GPU then 99% of streams will be fine.
>>32419435NTA, but I think the issue with HoloEN these days is moreso ceilings than anything else, and how important that is is relative to the person.Like we just saw a HoloEN mega collab barely get 30k until it died, but I don't think it would've gotten 35k. Then there's the issue with most collabs on the other channels not getting close to 20k without Gura's involvement. The daily, regular stream CCV performance for most HoloENs is as consistent as ever, but most non-Gura collabs capping out at sub-20k is disappointing. CCV for EN could also just be totally fucked and we're looking at BS numbers, but we don't know how much off it is so it's pointless to speculate imo.Sub growth is a whole other can of worms that I think won't be fixed until EN3 renews interest and brings new people into the fandom.
>>32419526The only outright failure hire in HoloEN is/was Sana. Even the lower tiers like Kiara or Bae do well and have a decent audience.
>32419878Real Nijiseethe
>>32419878Waiting...
>>32419918Dem koreans
>everyone thinking EN3 will save HoloEN when in reality they'll just be like iluna
>known for her music>unarchived>can't even pull 10kshe's a literal goner
>>32420010is a rebroadcast anon.
>>32419967You guys said that about Council, too
>>32420049They still say it.
>>32419745Noctyx is far from a strong gen, but Sonny playing games is like 3k max (The majority of his fans don't like his game streams) and Yugo is collabing with Ren and Aster so no one cares.Not really Noctyx at their finest hour.
predictions?
>>32419255Lore from a long time Pippa viewer: the stream that jumpstarted Pippa's year-long incline was a stream just after debut month where she spent a couple of hours talking about drama in a Build-A-Bear Facebook group she was a part of. She had actually shown uncensored posts with real names from the group on stream and the VOD was deleted shortly afterwards. It was the turning point from her debut content, which was mostly uninteresting MMO streams, to her current drama and ranting stream format. This stream got her heavily bonked by management to the point that she was on the verge of considering graduating until management changes were made that were more lenient to her current streaming style and personality. This stream is essentially what jump started Phase Connect's incline over a year ago. Unfortunately you'll have to find a download of it somewhere in the archives but you mentioning her talk about Build-A-Bear reminded me of it.
>>32420170same as MC
>>32420170How many Tempus POVs will there be?
>>32418933Ame wants to file her fanbase down enough so she can move to one day of streaming a week and do offstream work the rest of the time without getting bitched at.
>>32420218it looks like one for EN and one for JP
>>32420255>one for JPNohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl85hGOgSIU
>>32420255Astel put up a POV a few minutes ago.
>>32418205I remember hearing about that, the one where someone from this thread ended up writing a long comment recommending some stream stuff?
>>32420124>The majority of his fans don't like his game streamsI wonder if he'll do an Axia someday
>>32420255Shared VC or split? It'll be a little sad if it's a split VC, gonna be some haves and have-nots kinda shit
>>32420295yeah it wasn't too long ago. Maybe a monthish. And she actually had some back and forth with her members
number anonyou guys prepared to get raid by discordfag yet? , you knew it gonna happen because Gura's scuffed stream can get 30K for tally gold and NijiEN will never beat it today for sure.
>>32420124>The majority of his fans don't like his game streams90% of his streams ARE game streams even his IDK is mostly minecraftnowdays.
Let us not forget that Millie is having her 9th Handcam stream of the year, at least it's not like Enna who has done 18.
>>32420472You're taking the piss, right?
>>32414793her ogey face
>>32420527About Enna or Millie?
>>32420387Somebody made the distinction between being "number-focused" and "content-focused". I think that stream was more the latter than the former.
>>32420472If you count the percetange, handcam stream is really not a big portion of their streams, but they stream so much that they ran out of contents lmao.
>>32420608Enna
>>32420174She inclined because of the Ethan Ralph drama, not whatever this story is.
>>32419748Susan's shenanigans make youtube platform impossible to predict, Cover stops caring about metrics and focusing more that the vtubers in the agency generates a solid community by themself and unique memes to sell their own merchandising
>>32420317Why would you share VC for L4D versus?
>>32420472Scarle has another one today
>>32420612The only difference I would say is that Bae went into the conversation of wanting to improve because she knows her content doesn't do as well numbers wise as her coworkersI agree thought that her mindset is a lot better than someone like Vox and she doesn't want to just mindlessly chase numbers but provide content that will naturally incline them/
>>32419684Everyone likes to compare Irys to various Holos who do music, but how does she stack up against the other vsinger, AZKi? I don't follow AZKi much but skimming her channel the music VODs don't look much better than Irys outside of a few covers. Maybe cover considers Irys' numbers in line with expectations for vsingers.
These last two days have shown me that Bae is a total stacy which is a nice change from the usual autists that HoloEN hires. She is a snapchatting/tik tokking zoomer girl who is totally into fashion, going clubbing, and dancing. She has no issues just messaging everybody in JP to join her B-day stream, and just said on this stream "we are gonna play all of IRyS' songs and fucking did it.I know when she gets 3D she is going to dance like a stripper in a club and that is going to turn some heads.
>>32420633Enna's Handcam streams:>Homemade Gimbap (김밥)>Kung fu Cookies>150ksubs+Clay art>Clay Painting>1000 Piece Puzzle>Puzzle Part2>Spicy Noodle>Making A Robot>Designing Robot>Lunch Making>Cookies>Cowboy Breakfast>Souffle Panckakes>Ice Cream>Making Succulents>Puppets>Curry>Puppets Part2
>>32420646Wrong, this heavily predates the Gunt stream in February. The Build-A-Bear stream was a month after her debut. This was her very first ranting/drama stream that defined her content going forwards and solidified her core audience. This is when she inclined from 2view to 3view.
>>32419330holy misinformation. first of all you dont know how they hire anything, and second, nepotism hire isnt a real thing.Its extremely retarded to act like they didnt hire all of those people, in fact, you are fucking rewriting the past when literally all of those have auditions.>-- Niji only hired Enna because Millie demanded it.We literally know both of them applied together as a duo.
>>32420867I got this too. Bae would totally be a twitch e-girl shilling her onlyfans if she didn't somehow get into vtubing and I think that is a good thing. HoloEN needs more outgoing personalities like that.
>>32419583maybe she's not a numberfag but the fact that someone saying this got to her does indicate that being the runt of Council was a sensitive point for her at one time
>>32419623None of that is luck. Stop acting like those girls and boys weren't hired. Nijisanji always had good and bad hires in all of its branches and EN isnt different.
>>32420859AZKI on average is worse than Irys in songs views I think. Considering that she had that big 3D bday stream leading up to the OG and it does horribly compared to Irys who doesnt have such big stream to boost right after.
>>32420976?She literally said she'd read that in the chat. Which is baffling in itself but still.
>>32420802I remember that brat anon asking us for suggestion. Most of us said "don't scream as much" but he never include it in his comment, not even a milder version "you may want try controling your volume sometime".
>>32420659That's why when HoloEarth comes out, Cover will slowly fade the 3D Lives from YT and move them to the HoloEarth platform with much better freedom too.Soon, we will see HoloSummer on HoloEarth without YT's stupid ToS
>>32420976What? Fauna has never bee-Oh wait, it's just you Faunaschizo. Almost got me!
>>32420886those are her most popular content and what the sisters like to watch.
>>32420924it's so bizarre to me how the guy act like they dont have merit to hire those vtubers and hes trying to make as if no such thing happened. what a dumb narrative
I don't get why people say NijiEN are a bunch of coombaiters when Bae literally was a stripper
>>32421002IRyS has a very dedicated fanbase who do their reps, they just aren't that large of a fanbase. That is why all of her songs will eventually crawl to 1 million and her music views won't look that bad in the grand scheme of things with dozens of million view songs. It's just gonna take a while to get there. Her music fans are also totally different from her usual streaming fans which isn't necessarily a bad thing. She is such an entertaining streamer and great talker that a lot of more casual fans tune into her streams just to chill.
>>32421137Did Bae strip on stream?
Does Enna and Selen's incline in the NA market make Holo fans seethe that much?
Is this the first instance of live sex on a Hololive stream?
>>32421156>Her music fans are also totally different from her usual streaming fansDo you mean a subset? I'd be surprised if IRyS had a significant portion of fans who love her music but never watch her streams, although I guess that could be possible
>>32421002Yeah, she has a few successful covers as outliers but the most recent video tagged as an original song doesn't even have 200k after two months. Being a vsinger almost seems cursed in Hololive.
>>32421137There is not a single thin zoomer girl that has not attempted pole dancing at some point. They psy oped into being a good workout that all girls should try
>>32421224Yeah, what I mean is there are plenty of people who watch her streams who don't listen to her music. Part of that is of course the fact that her music never gets MVs on time and they just don't go to Spotify to listen to it.
>>32421219It the shitposters mostly.
>>32421220no. chocomel had a few. lui kissed and fondled lamy's lamys last week.
>>32421002>>32421249AZKi rarely streams. When IRyS is streaming she has the chance to shill her shit 3-4 times a week, but she doesn't do it.
>>32421137You say that like it's a bad thing. I can't wait until she gets 3D. If they can let Marine spread her legs like a slut they better let Bae pole dance.
>>32421137No she wasn't? she took up dance classes in school due to her sister
>>32421040Oh, I forgot about Sana but you know what I mean. Fauna used to be a 5k shitter, you can't deny that.
Why can Holos incline after a Z but almost never Nijis?
>>32421318I would love to see Hololive get a little more sexual and I don't mean in the crude way that NijiEN is. Stuff like Marine's sexual dance and Bae pole dancing. Stuff like that. These girls are sex symbols whether anybody wants to admit it or not.
>>32421399I'm glad for the Fauna incline tho, Bae now is the shitter but I think she's used to that.
>>32421413Do you really want me to say it?
>>32421413bot being culled
>Ennakeks losing to runt of Council shilling IRyS on a celebration streamNijiniggers how will she beat IRyS like this
>>32421460I think it'd be fine having a couple girls doing that if they want to. An experienced dancer like Bae pole dancing would be fine but I don't want them to push all the girls into being coombaiters. I would literally kill myself if I see someone like FBK pole dance
Bots vs BotsHow easy would it be to start a botfarm and put in an offer for niji or cover to pay for your services?
>>32421581LOL, obviously not all of them but they should let people like Aki, Marine, and Bae take it a little further if ya get what I mean.
Why does the 3DLive look better on my tv the fuck